Author Topic: Menu of epic rides.  (Read 106922 times)

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #25 on: 17 February, 2015, 06:18:26 am »
thanks so much for the feedback.
The CGCDRM very much encompasses what I was looking for.
Longer than the 1000km, but possibly more doable in that the daily distance is less taxing?

Job #1 will be translating the web site into English!

2016 is the date I'll aim for so plenty of time for that and to put some miles in.
Living on an Island 26 miles long (Bermuda) turns you into a human goldfish on long rides. ( about 100km once round the Island)

2200 km with a time limit of 193 hrs is immensely more difficult than 1000 k with a limit of 75 hours- all other things being equal. For starters, doing Audax for over 7 or 8 days continuous is really hard. Also, whereas one can sleep as long as is desired after completing a 1000 k or 1200 k- on a 2200 k at the 1000 k mark you still have 1200  k until the end . So there is no equivalent unlimited sleep period at the same distance point as in shorter events. This issue is cumulative as the 2200 k progresses. Although taxing, 2200 k is doable if one is both mentally and physically prepared.

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #26 on: 17 February, 2015, 07:06:12 am »
Well ... sort of ...
Assuming even minimum speeds, if you treat it as a 1200 + 1000,  thats 90h + 75h = 165h at "short event" pace. Leaving 28hr of extra sleep (of which you could take 16h at the 1200 mark without playing time-limit roulette).

16hours is about as much sleep as a human can make use of! Not "unlimited" perhaps.

The only difficulty might be finding a hotel with reeeeally quiet maid service.
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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #27 on: 23 February, 2015, 12:58:30 am »
In my experience it simply does not work out that way. Your calculations don't account for wear and tear on the human body not to mention the increased risk of mechanical issues for 2200 k.

If you look at the times of those who did both the 1001 Miglia 1600 k (in 2010 and/ or  2012) and the Giro 2200 k in 2014, you will find a number of fast 1001 Miglia riders who were substantially slower on the 2200 k. It's possible that personal support at controls on the Miglia account for some of the difference but I suspect this is a minor factor.

Jack_P

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #28 on: 23 February, 2015, 08:34:19 pm »
How about a true self supported 100 cols over 4000km. http://www.100cols.nl/engels/course/route.htm

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #29 on: 23 February, 2015, 08:48:50 pm »
A large part of a slowing in speed as total distance increases is a change of approach. Most folk are happy to burn round a 2 or 3 day event accumulating sleep debt but will settle into a week-long event as a fast tour. For instance, HK and I rode round 2010 Mille Miglia with some friends at 320km a day. That put us nearly dead last early on but a fair way up the field by the finish. We'd have happily kept going at the same pace if the event was longer. We've both done sub-70hr PBPs but I'm not sure that we'd want to keep up that sort of pace for a week or more.
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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #30 on: 08 March, 2015, 01:52:49 pm »
Fancy your chances in Russia.
http://www.russiac2c.com/route/#map

10,000km Done in 21 days, wow.

LEE

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #31 on: 12 March, 2015, 08:43:54 am »

Likewise, PBP whilst having the masochistic itinerary reads as a pretty featureless start to finish bash through less than stellar countryside.


I think that's missing the point.  It's certainly not a ride through remarkable scenery but it's a remarkable event in terms of people.

I think there may be an epic sized hole in your list if you never did it.

It's why I'm considering LEL, a ride I had no interest in whatsoever.  I now realise that I may look back and regret not doing the big ride "on my doorstep".
Some people say I'm self-obsessed but that's enough about them.

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #32 on: 13 March, 2015, 10:56:51 pm »
I feel you Lee,
perhaps comparing two different animals here though.
I probably have picked up a slanted view of PBP after reading a damming  (but well written) article on the ride. Only one persons view admittedly but it came across as a badly organised thankless grind with precious little camaraderie and no feeling of elation at the end for the author of the article.
Then again its not a super long (number of days) event so from a masochistic point of view I get the challenge perspective.

I guess personally I'm looking for a ride/event that encompasses that feeling of achievement as well as the humbling scenery etc that one gets from riding through Alpine type scenery.
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LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #33 on: 13 March, 2015, 11:06:05 pm »
It sounds like that author is a miserable git who rode an event he didn't enjoy. Ask a selection of folk about anything and there will somebody who'll complain about nirvana. Most folk enjoy PBP, just look at the number of repeat offenders.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #34 on: 14 March, 2015, 01:13:30 pm »
I'd be tempted to do the Southern Appalachian Super 600 if I lived on the other side of the Atlantic.

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #35 on: 01 April, 2015, 03:29:26 pm »
After a little digging around LEL in 2017 looks like the ticket.

The Transcontinental may be a little too ambitious first time round and sign-up time is a bit previous too.

Anyone got any personal feedback on the ride?
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recumbentim

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #36 on: 04 April, 2015, 10:56:16 am »
I have The Sottish Star perm card , a 2600 k by George Berwick , visiting 5 corners of Ecosse . I will attempt this soon . Planning to complete it in 11 days.

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #37 on: 05 April, 2015, 07:38:53 am »
If you like the transcontinental:

http://www.transafrikabikerace.com/
http://japanese-odyssey.com/
http://www.transambikerace.com/

All of these are easy to enter and in the same spirit of adventure

My friend and I cycled from St Petersberg to the Orkney Islands in 5 weeks last summer which was really cool too

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #38 on: 05 April, 2015, 07:44:51 am »
If you don't mind spending money these guys have lots of options to take it http://tourdafrique.com/

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #39 on: 05 April, 2015, 08:30:46 am »
Now this http://www.transambikerace.com/

This is the one for me  :thumbsup:

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #40 on: 21 April, 2015, 08:12:07 pm »
Andy Corless's Maniac Grimpeur 1000 is pretty epic. Which Arrivee was it written up in? It should be available online.
http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/AC03/

Arrivee 92 Spring 2006 includes a Maniac 1000 report by Phil Nelson and Richard Parotte. They seemed to be on the time limit for most of the ride and finally finished with 40 mins in hand - so finely judged!

Phil wants another go in late June this year and I hope to be tagging along.

PM me if you want a pdf of the article.

Happy days, I can understand Phil wanting to do it again, so do I. But I doubt I'd get the same perfect weather again.

Richard.

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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #41 on: 26 May, 2015, 02:56:02 pm »
1300km 'Golden Arrow (Flèche d’Or)' planning for 2018, but hey there's going to be a PERM too, route-check anyone?  ::-)
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/DAR1234/
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/AR1234/
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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #42 on: 26 May, 2015, 05:51:12 pm »
1300km 'Golden Arrow (Flèche d’Or)' planning for 2018, but hey there's going to be a PERM too, route-check anyone?  ::-)
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/DAR1234/
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/AR1234/
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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #43 on: 29 June, 2015, 08:31:55 pm »
The even longer Italian ride has been highlighted earlier, but not this one yet? Being run in 2016.
The first 400km may be your fastest ever!

http://www.1001migliaitalia.it/index.php?lang=en

This one has stunning scenery and some supported controls, and a time limit of 5 days 15 hours for 1600km.
Very fond memories of completing in 2010. :)
I'm planning on this one in 2016.
And if it's not epic enough I just ride to and from the event. Difficult if the event is in the U.S but you get the idea
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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #44 on: 28 November, 2015, 02:18:12 pm »
Now this http://www.transambikerace.com/

This is the one for me  :thumbsup:

*daydreams

Oh, that looks of interest.

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #45 on: 29 November, 2015, 09:36:04 pm »
I think we're about the same age and I think LEL next time round will coincide nicely,  I hope to do it on a bike I've built myself, including the frame, and there will be hotels...

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #46 on: 19 May, 2016, 02:03:28 am »
Lofty ambitions for 50th Birthday challenges have been tempered a little for this year.
A spot in the Dirty Kanza half pint (100 mile option) on June 4th. Picking up new all-road bike in Boston en route, so it will be a shake down for the new horse.

A longer trip planned in September. A jolly with Mrs Morbihan doing the Munich/Venice cycle path.
A fabulous website crammed full of info here.
http://www.muenchen-venezia.info/en/service/
Massive kudos to them for putting this trail and the info together. I rode some of the Dolomite section last year and its stunning.
German sausage, The Dolomites, then Prosecco, followed by Venice. Yum.

A ride I'd love to take on (with the new gravel capable bike) would be the inaugural Resistance ride.
http://www.laresistance.cc
Its going to clash with the Munich trip this year sadly, but plans are to ride it next year with a mate who wants to do it for his 50th expedition in 2017.
Its a one day event, but loose plans are to ride via Paris to make a journey of it.
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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #47 on: 01 June, 2016, 08:27:48 pm »
I think this link is worthwhile here

http://www.randonneursmondiaux.org/22-Calendar.html


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Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #48 on: 19 June, 2017, 11:33:40 pm »
208 Miles in a day is epic no?

Next Saturday 24th June, I'll be riding a route circumnavigating London outside the M25 starting and finishing in Windsor.

It's a bit short notice but there will be a handful of riders completing the route and there is space for 2 more.

The ride is supported with a rolling food stop and costs nothing to join this year.

If you'd like to join, by all means please get in touch, it'll be an epic day. Weather looks good too!

More info on Strava at https://www.strava.com/clubs/LondonOrbital :)

Re: Menu of epic rides.
« Reply #49 on: 07 July, 2017, 12:17:07 am »
I am going to circle back to the original post on this thread. Like Morbihan in 2015, I just turned 49, and I want some sort of epic bike adventure for my 50th, next summer. I have convinced SWMBO that an epic bike adventure will be cheaper and healthier than a sports car.  Since PBP 2015 I have done minimal riding, and I want to put something on the calendar now so that I have motivation get my saggy arse back on the bike and get myself back into shape.    I would love a multi-day adventure, not necessarily a 1200k randonnee, but something challenging.  I don't mind sleeping in the occasional bus shelter, but I don't want to ride a fully loaded touring bike. Heavy bikes just aren't that much fun. 

I would love to hear any suggestions that you kind folks have to offer. Randonnees, raids, tours, self-imposed challenges--anything that sounds interesting and challenging.