Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 July, 2017, 02:10:43 pm
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Yet another long distance race across a continent. This one is from Florence to the North Cape of Norway and starts tomorrow (29th July). At 8:30 in the morning, so just a few hours after TCR. Bizarrely, I heard about it this morning from an Indian cycling forum! (a Bangalorean has entered)
http://www.bikepacking.com/event/northcape-4000-2017/
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Bizarre event. Conflicts with TCR, nearly 200 euro fee and it is just a start-finish with 4 checkpoints.
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I agree, actually. The start date seems especially odd. I don't know if it's a clash through ignorance of TCR, or because the two events appeal to different people, or an attempt to scupper the TCR. Or just lack of dates available. I don't think the second makes sense as they're both self-supported races crossing the same continent, it seems incredibly unlikely they haven't heard of TCR and very odd to make a deliberate clash, so I guess there just is enough interest in this type of event now to support two at the same time in the same place. Having found their website, they list about 80 riders. http://www.northcape4000.com/en/riders
There are also 4 control points, which they refer to as gates.
Gates
For the first edition of the NorthCape400 there are 4 Gates (checkpoints) along the route. These are strategically placed in areas of geographical significance, and are the only obligatory points along the route. At each checkpoint, participants will be asked to validate their travel. If, for whatever reason, any or all of the gates are missed the participant will be automatically disqualified.
The four gates (checkpoints) are listed below:
• G1 - Innsbruck - Nickname “The Peak” - Bike Point RadSport
Gumppstraße 20, 6020 Innsbruck, Austria - N 47° 15' 51.2" - E 11° 24' 39.155"
• G2 - Nuremberg - Nickname “The Judgement” - KNAUS CampingPark
Hans-Kalb-Straße 56, 90471 Nürnberg, Germany - N 49° 25' 23.551" - E 11° 7' 17.364"
• G3 - Stockholm - Nickname “Fiftyseven” - Specialized Concept Store
Skeppsmäklargatan 33, 120 69 Stockholm, Sweden N 59° 18' 20.534" - E 18° 6' 43.688"
• G4 - Rovaniemi - Nickname “Arctic Circle” - Santa Claus Office / Arctic Circle
Joulumaantie 1, 96930 Napapiiri - Rovaniemi Finland - N 66° 32' 36.393" -E 25° 50' 52.849"
http://www.northcape4000.com/en/nc4000/bike-challenge-2017
So in fact marginally more route control than on TCR. The more I read about it, the more it seems like perpendicular TCR!
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So in fact marginally more route control than on TCR. The more I read about it, the more it seems like perpendicular TCR!
The TCR has 4 mandatory controls and live route tracking (all riders carry trackers). I don't think Northcape uses trackers.
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I thought TCR's 4 controls included the finish? Northcape has 4 intermediate controls plus the finish. It's not clear how you "validate your travel" at the CPs but they do use SPOT trackers and/or a phone app:
Live tracking of all the participants during the event is via the SPOT tracking device or alternatively for those participants without a SPOT device via the Smartphone APP that will be provided, free of charge, by the organisers. The use of a tracking device, be it the SPOT device or via the smartphone app is obligatory and allows all participants to update their position during the length of the event. About the smartphone App, please note that from June 2017, all over Europe, international roaming will be abolished, so this means that you are free to use the internet from your smartphone as if you were at home and without additional costs, regardless of whether you are in Italy, Germany or Finland.
That's Rule 4. http://www.northcape4000.com/en/rules-regulations-northcape4000
There are only 7 rules and some of those are very general and vague:
The freedom of interpretation is a fundamental principle of NorthCape4000. You are free to tackle the course on their own or in teams, with people known on the day of departure or with a group of friends.
The organization does not recommend participants to cycle during nighttime and, in any case, where there is low visibility or poor safety conditions. If you decide to do this, it is mandatory to use an appropriate front and rear lighting system as well as a high visibility reflective clothing. Cycling consecutively for many days, with few or no rest, can cause hallucinations and drastically lower the threshold of attention on the road and the perception of danger.
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I guess one attraction of this over TCR might be the greater climatic range, starting in northern Italy and finishing on the Arctic Circle. Could be especially challenging for the entrant from South India!
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As for the cost:
Subscription includes:
• Riders entering the page with personal data/photos of the participant
• Live tracking during the event with smartphone app or personal SPOT.
• Insurance MSP
• Race-pack
• Gadgets NorthCape4000
• NorthCape4000 Finisher’s certificate
• Inclusion in the Finishers page 2017.
So your 200 euros gets you insurance, tracking so your friends and sponsors can follow you, and a commemorative mug (or something). And your name on a list! I've no idea how much TCR costs though.
And very usefully:
Subscription does not include:
Everything that is not indicated in the list of subscription
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Isn't the TCR about 300 euro?
It is my understanding that at least for men, the TCR is massively over subscribed every year, hence the lottery to see who gets to ride.
Sounds to me like this event is for those who want a mad long distance race in .eu, but weren't able to get selected for the TCR.
J
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Isn't the TCR about 300 euro?
It is my understanding that at least for men, the TCR is massively over subscribed every year, hence the lottery to see who gets to ride.
Sounds to me like this event is for those who want a mad long distance race in .eu, but weren't able to get selected for the TCR.
J
I'm not sure. In 2016 the TCR was £200.
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Isn't the TCR about 300 euro?
I'm not sure. In 2016 the TCR was £200.
In 2016 £200 was about €300 :p
J
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Isn't the TCR about 300 euro?
It is my understanding that at least for men, the TCR is massively over subscribed every year, hence the lottery to see who gets to ride.
Sounds to me like this event is for those who want a mad long distance race in .eu, but weren't able to get selected for the TCR.
J
Yes, that's right - the timing is designed to give people who couldn't get into the TCR another summer ride option.
Alex Bourgonnier, who came second in the TCR a couple of years ago, is riding
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In which case the "clash" of dates is, obviously, not a clash.
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I've entered this. This year is Lake Garda to North Cape via Lake Balaton, Krakow, Riga and the length of Finland.
Lots of countries I've not cycled in before and some I've never visited at all. Cycling in the Arctic is a big unknown for me, and a little bit scary.
it's mandatory route so should be more scenic than main roads and more chance of bumping into people. It's not a proper race and drafting is allowed, which undermines it a bit, but should be fun.
Maybe it will happen, maybe not. It's all schengen which may or may not help.
Anyone else doing it?
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Lake Balaton? Make sure you don't get bummed! :o ;D
(Yes this is the local confectionery, sold in the Balaton region)
(https://i.ibb.co/Dpt399Z/IMG-20190512-130744754-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X8bm77q)
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Nice.
You still haven't escaped taking the ferry though Frank!
I got super curious about Balaton while routing for TCRno5 to CP3. Cycle path all around the lake etc. It was abandoned in the end on the grounds that it was too circuitous and I went up through Wolfsburg with the rest of em. I'll look forward to hearing about it.
There was a bit of negative feedback about riding through Hungary on TCRno6. Mainly due to banned roads for cyclists.
I don't remember it being particularly awkward though. It was tricky to use euros and CC I seem to recall.
The route cut just West of Balaton N to S.
https://www.strava.com/activities/1763037364
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I went to Lake Balaton when backpacking about 30 years ago. Don't remember much, mainly trying to buy a train ticket from Budapest. I wanted a return but that translated as buying two tickets. It didn't amount to much money for me so I didn't realise, until the conductor on the train saw my ticket and insisted on giving me half my money back! I don't think I sampled the local confectionery - but they do look like good cycling food!
When I did my route for the TCR in 2018 (TCR 6), Lake Balaton was a big landmark. The obvious / shortest route was to go west of it but, when I looked at alternatives, I had a wow! moment when I realised that you could cut out loads of climbing (>3000m for an extra 12km distance) if you went to the east, so that was where I routed. I wasn't able to start but watched it closely and was interested in which routes people took. James, in the lead, followed almost exactly my route, and went to the east. Then, when I saw Bjorn, in chase, going to the west of it, I thought there was no way he could win from there and he couldn't have taken much care of his route. So it wasn't entirely surprising that he then came unstuck in the mountains, routing down a goat track. Interesting to see which side of the lake you routed, Jonah!
No escape from ferries! This one is smaller and more frequent so a bit lower risk - more like the Danube ferries on the original TCR route - but still an issue in picking the right one, though: you don't want to either miss yours or have half a day sitting in the terminal.
I dotwatched the 2017 race and legality of routes in Hungary was a big issue that time, too! The good thing about mandatory route is that the organisers will do all the research into banned roads. There may be a call to make if they have missed something, though.
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Lots of countries I've not cycled in before and some I've never visited at all. Cycling in the Arctic is a big unknown for me, and a little bit scary.
it's mandatory route so should be more scenic than main roads and more chance of bumping into people. It's not a proper race and drafting is allowed, which undermines it a bit, but should be fun.
I may be biased as a confirmed Articophile (Norway end to end, Sweden end to end, 2x Finland end-to-end), but there's not much scary in the Arctic, except:
1) Insects. But I've never been there as late as when the NC4000 will be there, so they might not be a problem.
2) Running out of food (of anything else) - opportunities to stock up can be few and far between [edit: I see from the faq that the route follows main roads E75 , 92, E6, E69 so possibly not such a problem]
3) The tunnel from the mainland on to Magerøya.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8399/29237756085_0cd548a30d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LxD9fR)
This is what it's like at 5 am on a Sunday. From talking to other cyclists who went through at other times, there's a constant deafening stream of trucks, cars, camper vans, motor bikes in both directions. There's a 9% gradient.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7789/29129808482_0c05233a52_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Lo6Tch)
I don't know whether the rules of the event allow it, but there's this option between Tallinn and Helsinki. Not much more expensive than the car ferries, and much faster.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/2779/32764164412_ee071f1baf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RVfUAq)
(the big red boaty thing, not the helicopter)
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Thanks John, good to get your perspective.
I've heard a bit about the tunnel, the pull up at the other end is likely to be tough. One thing that might help in the tunnel is that I'll use a bar end mirror, so I can see how far away the roaring dinosaurs are behind me!
The bit that's scary for me is going from warm to cold when I've got limited gear with me. I much prefer going north to South. I'll be racing so will travel light. One option is to buy a layer out two in Finland, but that takes time and is unpredictable. In his book Ian walker describes the temperature going down to -1 and wearing his sleeping bag with newspaper down his leg warmers! I don't think it's meant to get that cold in August, but it can.
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The bar end mirror is a good idea. The one car which passed me got louder and louder and louder until I though it was right behind me, but continued to get louder for a considerable time until finally I could see my shadow in the beam of its lights and it came past.
As to temperature, I was pitching my tent one cold evening in northern Sweden in midsummer 2014 when I noticed snow landing on my sleeve. I was warm as toast that night, but unlike you I was a fully laden tourist with the luxury of a big bulky sleeping bag and a fleecy liner. I had to buy thick XC skiing gloves the next day. And on the other hand in 2016 I spent 43 days in the Arctic Circle and it never got anywhere near that cold. At Kirkenes it was a sweltering 24°. Unpredictable, but I guess its unlikely to be that warm at the end of August.
Likewise on the day I rode from Honningsvåg to North Cape and back it was a lovely sunny day, but the previous day I heard there had been thick cold fog, and a few days before that a caravan had been blown off the road.
I've spent rather too much time today following the route on google maps with a bit of streetview, which has awoken some memories - reindeer pizza at the Neste at Inari (https://www.google.com/maps/@68.9062445,27.0132934,3a,75y,143.98h,107.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_ozzhs2V9_W91D7oVsB4iA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), the super 140km road between Lachselv and the tunnel (https://www.google.com/maps/@70.5717862,25.2406028,3a,75y,19.27h,91.79t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s47I959Rs21v0fKmqd4O_bA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D47I959Rs21v0fKmqd4O_bA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%%3D286.73013%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192), the way that the pine forests become thinner the further north you go, giving way to stunted birches, and then there are no trees at all. And now I'm pining for the fjords.
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What I'd love to do is, rather than flying back, get the coastal ferry from Alta to Trondheim, then train to Oslo, but probably would take too long. I'll look into it though.
I really look forward to watching the landscape gradually change going north. Nothing beats bike travel for that perspective
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Had sub-zero overnight temps in Alaska in August a few years ago, well south of the Arctic Circle.
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What I'd love to do is, rather than flying back, get the coastal ferry from Alta to Trondheim, then train to Oslo, but probably would take too long. I'll look into it though.
I really look forward to watching the landscape gradually change going north. Nothing beats bike travel for that perspective
I spent a couple of Winters up in the Narvik region back in the 80's Really impressive scenery. Memories of spectacular Northern lights shows while night skiing. (night= 23 hours a day or something in Jan/Feb) Bitterly cold.
Ive always fancied going back there in the Summer. A ferry/cycling combo would be interesting.
Interestingly your journey south would take you past hammerfest.
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What I'd love to do is, rather than flying back, get the coastal ferry from Alta to Trondheim, then train to Oslo, but probably would take too long. I'll look into it though.
I really look forward to watching the landscape gradually change going north. Nothing beats bike travel for that perspective
Fact of the day: Trondheim is at an equivalent latitude to the northernmost point of Antarctica.
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What I'd love to do is, rather than flying back, get the coastal ferry from Alta to Trondheim, then train to Oslo, but probably would take too long. I'll look into it though.
I really look forward to watching the landscape gradually change going north. Nothing beats bike travel for that perspective
When I went to Hell a couple of years back that is something I really noticed as I went north. The way I was catching up on Autumn as it happened.
I did have one night of -4°C, which I wasn't equipped for as I hadn't expected sub 0°C temps.
I wanna go back, it was such an amazing trip. Maybe one day I'll get the train to Hell, and head north...
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Alas the ferry looks an unlikely dream as it appears it might take a week or more to get home that way, which my wife and daughter might not be happy with.
The easy option is to get a bus to Alta and fly from there - changing in Oslo.
Also, it may never happen as making plans for summer is an act of optimism!
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What I'd love to do is, rather than flying back, get the coastal ferry from Alta to Trondheim, then train to Oslo, but probably would take too long. I'll look into it though.
I really look forward to watching the landscape gradually change going north. Nothing beats bike travel for that perspective
Fact of the day: Trondheim is at an equivalent latitude to the northernmost point of Antarctica.
And Kirkenes is further east than Istanbul, yet is in the same time zone as Santiago de Compostella.
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Alas the ferry looks an unlikely dream as it appears it might take a week or more to get home that way, which my wife and daughter might not be happy with.
The easy option is to get a bus to Alta and fly from there - changing in Oslo.
Also, it may never happen as making plans for summer is an act of optimism!
Alta to Bodo. 800km ride.
Arctic Norway train to Oslo.
Ferry from Oslo to Hull.
Hmmm likely a week as well!
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What I'd love to do is, rather than flying back, get the coastal ferry from Alta to Trondheim, then train to Oslo, but probably would take too long. I'll look into it though.
I really look forward to watching the landscape gradually change going north. Nothing beats bike travel for that perspective
Fact of the day: Trondheim is at an equivalent latitude to the northernmost point of Antarctica.
And Kirkenes is further east than Istanbul, yet is in the same time zone as Santiago de Compostella.
Surely the Southernmost point of Antarctica?
Bermuda is 1000 miles North of the Caribbean. Sorry had to get that one out there.
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Idly playing with Komoot, i just put in Hell to the North cape, via the Loften islands.
Once coming out of the undersea tunnel onto the island where the North cape is, Komoot routes me up a hill at 22%, I'm guessing to avoid a tunnel that goes east a bit.
What route does the NC4K use? Does it use the tunnel or the 22% masochistic climb?
J
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The profiles in the FAQ doesn't stop at the undersea tunnel and restart at Honningsvag, so that bit is missing. I rode through the tunnel to get to Honningsvag and don't remember an alternative. I can't see it on google maps Alternatives to tunnels in Norway are usually "the old road" over the top and not maintained well, if at all. As I found out in S Norway:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/693/31837260070_1541de8c73_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Qvmhe5)
PS there are plenty of monster climbs between Honningsvag and North Cape, so no-one will miss out.
(https://www.northcape4000.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Mageroya_map-1.png)
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This was the route I came up with:
https://www.komoot.com/tour/309029839?share_token=aI78sTwrpVmhSJcgWk7oime1IXoH7RdS625W2tbhOtwE4o145i&ref=wtd
J
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That route avoids Honningsvag, and looks as if it takes a shortcut on what looks like a track (shown on the Norgeskart app),
but on streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@70.9907861,25.7453608,3a,75y,38.19h,88.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shdJaXb62MXzp1Vy5xSn6ZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)looks like a non-existant path up a mountain. And 22% is probably a conservative estimate.
Wrong track it's this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@70.9905391,25.7356987,3a,75y,330.77h,82.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGUGrtwKIOL7JEQxeekszmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). But not much better.
Anyway, the Nordkapp 4000 say the route is all on tarmac, and they recommend stopping at Honningsvag (so that isn't bypassed).
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I genuinely can't see a track in that (second, correct) streetview link. I can in the first, incorrect one. Do you mean following the stream?
And Qg, I'm especially surprised – you being you! – to find your Komoot route in miles and yards!
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I genuinely can't see a track in that (second, correct) streetview link. I can in the first, incorrect one. Do you mean following the stream?
And Qg, I'm especially surprised – you being you! – to find your Komoot route in miles and yards!
That's your setting not mine. It displays in Metric for me.
I'm guessing if you are not logged into Komoot, it will try to do localisation of the settings.
I could probably file this as a bug, nothing should use miles or yards. It should all be metric.
J
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I could probably file this as a bug, nothing should use miles or yards. It should all be metric.
Delusional, or just dictatorial? :facepalm:
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I could probably file this as a bug, nothing should use miles or yards. It should all be metric.
Delusional, or just dictatorial? :facepalm:
Why don't we move this to the KPH vs wrong thread?
J
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I genuinely can't see a track in that (second, correct) streetview link. I can in the first, incorrect one. Do you mean following the stream?
And Qg, I'm especially surprised – you being you! – to find your Komoot route in miles and yards!
That's your setting not mine. It displays in Metric for me.
I'm guessing if you are not logged into Komoot, it will try to do localisation of the settings.
I could probably file this as a bug, nothing should use miles or yards. It should all be metric.
J
I don't use Komoot, so must be some default.
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I genuinely can't see a track in that (second, correct) streetview link. I can in the first, incorrect one. Do you mean following the stream?
I can't see it in either. On the Norgeskart map it starts to the eat (right) of the stream and goes up the right side of the valley. But the Northcape 4000 route follows the road anyway, through the 0.5 poronkusema tunnel.
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In the first one I thought I saw a track – sheep trail really – bang in the centre. Looking again, I think it's just a rainwater run off track. But there is a sort of very vague track starting on the left of the screen and running up to the right of the first big rocks. Definitely something for walking, preferably without a bike to push, not for riding.
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I've entered this. This year is Lake Garda to North Cape via Lake Balaton, Krakow, Riga and the length of Finland.
Lots of countries I've not cycled in before and some I've never visited at all. Cycling in the Arctic is a big unknown for me, and a little bit scary.
it's mandatory route so should be more scenic than main roads and more chance of bumping into people. It's not a proper race and drafting is allowed, which undermines it a bit, but should be fun.
Maybe it will happen, maybe not. It's all schengen which may or may not help.
Anyone else doing it?
Ive been wracking my brains on a contact who has done this race Frank.
It just came back to me. During TCRno5 I crossed paths, with a chap called Peter Wohler. I was riding down an eye watering gradient towards Innsbruck on a major drag. He was trudging up on foot on my side of the road in the opposite direction and had a NC4000 sticker strapped to the front of his bike. Naturally we stopped for a chat. It was on the drop into Zirl, crazy steep. 16 plus % I seem to recall. It was hot as Hell and I'd had a crappy day getting lost (surprise surprise) I'd missed the pass from Germany into Austria, and ended up coming through the back door on a beautiful but laborious gravel track along the North of lake Plansee. After which I bailed on a busy road loaded with aggressive weekend traffic for a short cut that involved vaulting several security gates that wasn't a short cut at all. I digress, but the outcome was I had a great chat with Peter, who had eschewed doing TCR as he is not comfortable with aggressive dogs, but still likes to take on a big race. He is a contact on my social media profile if you want to look him up.
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Peter is a wonderful guy. I've ridden quite a few audaxes with him, quite often we even shared rooms before/after the event. Lovely sense of humor, in a German bike forum he used to use the nick 'Bergfloh', albeith he is tal and nearly 100kilo
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I've entered too. Er, sorry for the delay, I am not on here often. Treating it as a big long holiday with oodles of cycling, in places I have never cycled before. Can't wait but uncertain it will go ahead. At least I've had my first jab so preparation stage 1 done!
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I rode this last time it happened. Loftoten islands were particularly beautiful; though the route up through Denmark / Sweden means that 2021 may be more interesting overall? Enjoyed the ferries (nice, social pauses). The final tunnel onto Magoyera (sp?) wasn't enjoyable; but there had been plenty of tunnels on the way to that tunnel. Visibility was down to about 5 m when I arrived -- plus driving rain. The day before, from others pictures, seemed to be bright and sunny. Quite easy to get the bus back to the airport afterwards.
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Interesting. I am lucky that I do not need to rush home at the end so thought of taking the Hurtigruten ferry to Bergen and flying from there. This would be a bit of R&R but also means I could hop off at the north end of the Lofoten Islands and re-join at the south end. Lofoten is high on my list of places to cycle. Right up there, in fact, with the event itself
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Lofoten was almost implausibly beautiful -- picture postcard views around every corner. I thought of the ferry, but time plus price decided me against. Norway is shockingly expensive (as a few Swedes noted, as well). Whether that expense lies behind the popularity of camper vans I don't know, but there are plenty of those -- which also means there are plenty of good campsites / facilities in pretty deserted places.
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Lofoten was almost implausibly beautiful -- picture postcard views around every corner. I thought of the ferry, but time plus price decided me against. Norway is shockingly expensive (as a few Swedes noted, as well). Whether that expense lies behind the popularity of camper vans I don't know, but there are plenty of those -- which also means there are plenty of good campsites / facilities in pretty deserted places.
I seem to remember that a beer was over three quid way back in the mid eighties when we were on deployment. That was eye watering for a poorly paid squaddie. The locals used to come and socialise in the NAAFI bars where we had duty free booze. I think the going rate for a bottle of scotch was about 40 pounds as the government added very high tax rates to alcohol. The other random item that I remember was cloud berry yoghurts. Yum!
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My former cow-orker Dave, a practising Glaswegian, once claimed that the first Norwegian phrase he learned on starting a secondment to our office in Stavanger in the latter half of the 80s was the equivalent of “Ah'm no' payin' that fer a fuckin' pint!”
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paying for everything by credit card made it less immediately painful. (Cash doesn't seem popular.)
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They confirmed yesterday that this is definitely going to run, on the basis that the EU Green Pass will be in place from 1July.
I need to work out if I will be able to do it.
It seems that non-EU citizens can get a green pass as long as they have the right to travel to the country in question, but there is surprisingly little info around on it.
If you are fully vaccinated (as I am) this should mean free border crossings. For those not vaccinated, it would mean getting a test at every border. They have taken the opposite approach to the TCR saying that finding the test centre is all part of the adventure! There are some non vaccinated people who are pretty pissed off about that.
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This has gone ahead but I didn't ride. Italy introduced a quarentine for UK arrivals and my knee wasn't in good enough shape.
But that's not important. I've just received an email to say that a rider has been killed in a collision in Hungary. No more info on what happened other than it was by Lake Balaton.
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Am I being dumb, or is the tracker broken?
J
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The tracker is clunky but appears to be working.
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I've just received an email to say that a rider has been killed in a collision in Hungary. No more info on what happened other than it was by Lake Balaton.
It was a hit from behind by a car, at 11:30pm.
Rider's family has been notified and it has been reported in the local press but there has been no announcement from the organiser.
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I've just received an email to say that a rider has been killed in a collision in Hungary. No more info on what happened other than it was by Lake Balaton.
It was a hit from behind by a car, at 11:30pm.
Rider's family has been notified and it has been reported in the local press but there has been no announcement from the organiser.
Terrible news.
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This is translated from the local newspaper:
Fatal accident on Highway 75
Between Keszthely and Alsópáhok, the police closed the main road and diverted traffic.
A fatal road traffic accident occurred on July 28, 2021 at 11:30 pm in the 1st kilometer section of the main road 75, between Keszthely and Alsópáhok. According to the primary data, a car collided with a cyclist in the same direction from behind. The woman sitting on the bicycle died at the scene as a result of the accident. The driver of the car was not injured in the accident.
Police closed the accident-affected section of the main road during the inspection and technical rescue, diverting traffic. You can get around Hévíz and Cserszegtomaj.
Please be patient.
Drive carefully!
https://indirekt.hu/belfold/tragedia-biciklist-gazoltak-halalra-a-balatonnal/ (https://indirekt.hu/belfold/tragedia-biciklist-gazoltak-halalra-a-balatonnal/)
And this is roughly where it was:
(https://www.apex-insight.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Screenshot-2021-08-03-134457.png)
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.7599079,17.2070318,3a,75y,79.3h,90.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sclz4YZkxQVsWKRU_v4n_Cw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.7599079,17.2070318,3a,75y,79.3h,90.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sclz4YZkxQVsWKRU_v4n_Cw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
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gosh, that is terrible. extremely sad. it's the worst country in europe for cycling for a reason.
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gosh, that is terrible. extremely sad. it's the worst country in europe for cycling for a reason.
Given that it's well documented how bad it is to cycle through (plus routing through it excludes some demographics from competing), I'm surprised any event still goes through there.
J
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There is zero information about the tragedy on the organisers feed. I find that unconscionable.
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There is zero information about the tragedy on the organisers feed. I find that unconscionable.
I'm relieved to hear it's not just me who feels that way
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There is zero information about the tragedy on the organisers feed. I find that unconscionable.
I'm relieved to hear it's not just me who feels that way
I was holding back on my views in the hope that there was something forthcoming. However unless there is a VERY good excuse, I simply don't understand it.
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Perhaps its sub-judice?
I hope so. It seems wrong that they're not mentioning it at all. I can see a desire to limit speculation but even so.
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I wondered that but they have not said that it was the case. They said the police only told them there had been an incident, not that it was fatal.
Mike's death led to legal cases but it was still reported.
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finally they have put something up on facebook: [Edit - can't see it now, may have been taken down already, within two days!]
https://www.facebook.com/groups/933606493405555/posts/3679844745448369/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/933606493405555/posts/3679844745448369/)
Olga Ivanova.
She liked to draw, paint, ride. We met her during the meeting on Friday 23 July and on some other occasion in the hotel in Rovereto that she shared with some staff members. Of course, you can't say you know a person after a few hours, but we understood one thing about her immediately, she was full of life and enthusiasm.
People who dream exude joy and light and she was bright.
“The NorthCape4000 was her ride of life and she was incredibly happy to be there. She loved her Italian bike and was happy in the first 5 days "
Her light went out on the evening of July 28 on the shores of Lake Balaton, at 11.30 pm, due to a car accident.
We don't know anything else and at this point it doesn't even make sense.
What we want to tell you, dear Olga, is that you have been with us every meter of this edition, every sunrise and every sunset.
Our hearts and our thoughts are with you, with your family and with all your friends.
Have a good trip. Ciao Olga.