entered, and I didn't have to go hunting round the house for a chequebook
Entries will open on 1st December - click image for details and entry."600km cycling event starting from Chepstow. Controls at Bronllys, Llangurig, Dolgellau, Menai Bridge, Dolgellau, Aberdyfi and Chepstow, plus 2 information controls."
Old discussions can be found here (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=104545.msg2761712#new).
From Pen y Pass the scary descent to/past Llanberis
There be dragons 🐉…If Wycombewheeler didn't see them, he was probably asleep. A lucky escape, I hope he thanks the gods (/dragons) the next time he passes through.
From Pen y Pass the scary descent to/past Llanberis
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maybe they were disguised as sheep, very cunning.There be dragons 🐉…If Wycombewheeler didn't see them, he was probably asleep. A lucky escape, I hope he thanks the gods (/dragons) the next time he passes through.
From Pen y Pass the scary descent to/past Llanberis
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That's not the scary one.
The scary one is the plummet on day 2 to Dinas Mawdddy
Judging by my past experience of cycling in Wales (2xBCM, 2x brevet Cymru, lakes and snowdon, Dragon Ride, acme grand) suncream will be in more demand than rain jackets*, so I'll look forward to that. Also, living far from the sea, any road by the coast is a treat.
Looks like the new route won't go down that one. From Dolgellau the return leg now goes to the coast at Aberdyfi (which is a really lovely route if the weather is kind).
Judging by my past experience of cycling in Wales (2xBCM, 2x brevet Cymru, lakes and snowdon, Dragon Ride, acme grand) suncream will be in more demand than rain jackets*, so I'll look forward to that. Also, living far from the sea, any road by the coast is a treat.
Looks like the new route won't go down that one. From Dolgellau the return leg now goes to the coast at Aberdyfi (which is a really lovely route if the weather is kind).
*heavy rain sometimes occurs, but majority of rides are warm and sunny. I remember being drenched on the last climb of BCM, only to descend into chepstow to find the roads bone dry and locals cycling in short sleeves.
Bikey-Mikey came a-cropper coming down there 12 or so years ago, and was hospitalized. Can't remember the cause.From Pen y Pass the scary descent to/past Llanberis???
Bikey-Mikey came a-cropper coming down there 12 or so years ago, and was hospitalized. Can't remember the cause.From Pen y Pass the scary descent to/past Llanberis???
Entries will open on 1st December - click image for details and entry.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/o7wz2tuhz1ysu9x/BCMsocial.jpg?raw=1) (https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/)
Old discussions can be found here (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=104545.msg2761712#new).
Bikey-Mikey came a-cropper coming down there 12 or so years ago, and was hospitalized. Can't remember the cause.From Pen y Pass the scary descent to/past Llanberis???
Looks like the new route won't go down that one. From Dolgellau the return leg now goes to the coast at Aberdyfi (which is a really lovely route if the weather is kind).
Judging by my past experience of cycling in Wales (2xBCM, 2x brevet Cymru, lakes and snowdon, Dragon Ride, acme grand) suncream will be in more demand than rain jackets
Does anyone have a rough route?
The outline is on the event page. https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/ (https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/)Good stuff!
Final checks will be done on the helpers ride 2 weeks prior and any amendments made. Everyone who has signed up will then have access to GPX route with control WPs, fully curated route notes in PDF & CSV, through RWGPS Event (even with a free subscription) you'll also get all premium features so FIT, TCX, KML, PDF notes+map inserts, ability to sync with other devices, use of the RWGPS app with offline maps & voice nav etc etc.
It's an new route but I think it could be a good one, if a little hillier than some :)
The outline is on the event page. https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/ (https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/)Good stuff!
Final checks will be done on the helpers ride 2 weeks prior and any amendments made. Everyone who has signed up will then have access to GPX route with control WPs, fully curated route notes in PDF & CSV, through RWGPS Event (even with a free subscription) you'll also get all premium features so FIT, TCX, KML, PDF notes+map inserts, ability to sync with other devices, use of the RWGPS app with offline maps & voice nav etc etc.
Can you please explain how you expect to run the Start Time Allocation? (4am-6am is mentioned). I've been dead honest with my estimated riding speed, it would be nice to plan with actual start time in mind - 4am is very different to 6am! :P
(This may start an LEL-style gamification of the system ... )
Those with the fasted av speed will set off at 4am,
Do we know if it's alright to leave a bag at the start at Bulwark community centre?I'm pretty sure it is... it says there is secur(ish) luggage storage on the Audax UK webpage and I left a bag last year. Wouldn't leave valuables though.
Do we know if it's alright to leave a bag at the start at Bulwark community centre?
Reaally? That's frustrfating ... the event page I'm seeing says this under Start/FinishDo we know if it's alright to leave a bag at the start at Bulwark community centre?
I doubt it as that isn't the start
Reaally? That's frustrfating ... the event page I'm seeing says this under Start/Finish
START:
Please arrive at least 10 minutes before the depart time to collect your brevet card.
Bulwark Community Centre - opens new tab for map.
Laburnam Way, Bulwark, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP16 5RF, Wales
6am start time for me, must be a fast field (though it's not a race of course)...I can't remember what average speed estimation I put but I'm surprised it was as low as that would imply. I must have been having a negative day or something. Still, it means I get a "lie in" at least.
Looking forward to it. My only other riding of the BCM was in 2013 and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Fingers crossed the weather isn't too Welsh.
Will's GWR website has the route as advisory with the following text under 'type and validation'
'The route is advisory - you just have to visit the controls and gain proof of passage within time limits where specified; there may be parts that you'd like to take a different route and that is entirely up to you; the time limits for the controls don't change!'
There is a way to display it on the events if it is marked correctly in the database - I will check why it wasn't showing for BC400 in case we have missed something.
There is a way to display it on the events if it is marked correctly in the database - I will check why it wasn't showing for BC400 in case we have missed something.
There is a way to display it on the events if it is marked correctly in the database - I will check why it wasn't showing for BC400 in case we have missed something.
Sounds good!
Just to clarify my suggestion: this should be displayed on all events (inc Advisory routes too), not just mandatory ones, to make it clear and avoid any incorrect assumption in the case of no-information being displayed.
An easier solution would be to make all AUK calendar events mandatory routing :demon:
Weather looking good.
I've got a 4am start, so hopefully will get to Aberdyfi for a few hours sleep.
It's tempting to try and push on through the night, but it will probably won't be far off zero degrees in the rural valleys near Newtown...
An easier solution would be to make all AUK calendar events mandatory routing :demon:
But we can't be trusted not to cheat, so this would need secret controls on every event, at cost of volunteers time.
Also there would be a backlash from those that think they can improve the route (often by smashing along busy main roads).
But mandatory routing on all events would be great if it meant no more requirement for over distance rides.
Why? Other countries can mandate a longer (than the shortest) route between controls.
Why? Other countries can mandate a longer (than the shortest) route between controls.
Les contrôles doivent être judicieusement placés, par exemple aux changements de direction, avec trajet
à peu près direct entre deux contrôles.
This is the relevant rule -QuoteLes contrôles doivent être judicieusement placés, par exemple aux changements de direction, avec trajet
à peu près direct entre deux contrôles.
Perhaps a new thread is needed to discuss the rules and regs of mandatory routes and over distance.
Perhaps a new thread is needed to discuss the rules and regs of mandatory routes and over distance.
;D ;D ;D
It never changes
Weather looking good.
I've got a 4am start, so hopefully will get to Aberdyfi for a few hours sleep.
It's tempting to try and push on through the night, but it will probably won't be far off zero degrees in the rural valleys near Newtown...
Unless there is a 24 hour garage in Newtown, that's a long way between resupply as well. The route out of Newtown towards Knighton is pretty remote, start at 4, arrive at Aberdyfi around midnight, without a sleep, that's potentially 6.5 hours before being able to buy supplies, potentially at Weobly at 530km.
According to Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/3vKZVfas4LELe92v9) the McDonald's in Newton opens 24h on Saturday and from 5am to 11pm on Sunday.That is interesting. as long as they are properly open, and not only open for selling to people in cars.
Also according to Google Maps none of the garages are 24hr
That is interesting. as long as they are properly open, and not only open for selling to people in cars.I've just called them and they are open from 05:00 for sit in.
Strangely the shop and drive - which apears to be the same thing - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Shop'n'Drive/@52.5147417,-3.3075933,18z/data=!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x486ffdbac915ef5d:0xf85baad9a57d1b31!2sShop'n'Drive!8m2!3d52.5147417!4d-3.306499!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11fklf7mvw!3m5!1s0x486ffdbac915ef5d:0xf85baad9a57d1b31!8m2!3d52.5147417!4d-3.306499!16s%2Fg%2F11fklf7mvw is marked as 24 hours and a reviewer comments that it is 24 hours 4 months ago.Just called them, it is verified. Shop open 24hr serving from the window, can do coffee etc.
Be nice to get the status of this verified.
UPDATE sent regarding Menai Bridge control, please check you email.2h after I push everything onto my GPS...
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You can, but it's a thankless task and we don't have an active board moderator. Would anyone like to volunteer?Perhaps a new thread is needed to discuss the rules and regs of mandatory routes and over distance.
You can ask the mods to separate out those posts from this thread.
So can I ask about chain lube for Snowdonia here?You can, but it's a thankless task and we don't have an active board moderator. Would anyone like to volunteer?Perhaps a new thread is needed to discuss the rules and regs of mandatory routes and over distance.
You can ask the mods to separate out those posts from this thread.
You can ask about sex lube for Babylonia if you like, but we know where you live ;DSo can I ask about chain lube for Snowdonia here?You can, but it's a thankless task and we don't have an active board moderator. Would anyone like to volunteer?Perhaps a new thread is needed to discuss the rules and regs of mandatory routes and over distance.
You can ask the mods to separate out those posts from this thread.
but best bet is probably circle line from liverpool street to paddington as Adamski says, bikes are allowed because it is not a deep line, but obviously rush hour crowds would prevent this.
but best bet is probably circle line from liverpool street to paddington as Adamski says, bikes are allowed because it is not a deep line, but obviously rush hour crowds would prevent this.
London on Friday is no longer that busy. Most people wfh, I guess?
Here is a route from station to station.
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/course/161908503
but best bet is probably circle line from liverpool street to paddington as Adamski says, bikes are allowed because it is not a deep line, but obviously rush hour crowds would prevent this.
London on Friday is no longer that busy. Most people wfh, I guess?
Here is a route from station to station.
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/course/161908503
Thanks for this, does it work in the opposite direction too?
(Sorry, nothing to do with London:)
I see the official route back to Kings cuts off "Level Crossing corner" by going over a funking great hill.
The BCM Classic went the Long Way*; I'm inclined to do the same, with tired legs and sleep head!
Is that silly?
*i.e. thru Phenrincannotbespelled.
(Sorry, nothing to do with London:)
I see the official route back to Kings cuts off "Level Crossing corner" by going over a funking great hill.
The BCM Classic went the Long Way*; I'm inclined to do the same, with tired legs and sleep head!
Is that silly?
*i.e. thru Phenrincannotbespelled.
That route has been explored by Dave Lewis, me, and others. It is substantially slower.
(Sorry, nothing to do with London:)
I see the official route back to Kings cuts off "Level Crossing corner" by going over a funking great hill.
The BCM Classic went the Long Way*; I'm inclined to do the same, with tired legs and sleep head!
Is that silly?
*i.e. thru Phenrincannotbespelled.
That route has been explored by Dave Lewis, me, and others. It is substantially slower.
I'm struggling to keep up at the back. By That route, are you saying the longer route or the hillier route is the slower one?
Having spent last Sunday early morning (0152-0438) inside the Newtown McDs, they stay fully open all Saturday night ie all the dark hours, inside and 'drive thru'. The staff kindly came round about 0230 to warn us to expect a swarm of merry people (they called them 'drunks') to descend about 0300 and to think about our bikes. And the rabble duly arrived.According to Google Maps the McDonald's in Newton opens 24h on Saturday and from 5am to 11pm on Sunday.That is interesting. as long as they are properly open, and not only open for selling to people in cars.
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I'm planning to sleep at Aberdyfi.
#1: What kind of sleeping facilities will be available there?
#2: Do I have to bring my own mattress ?
#3: Do I have to bring my own duvet and sheet?
#4: Will be there showering available? If not can I use a tap in the garden to take a shower?
Thanks for the answer.
Don't forget the suncream
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcm8dtd3q#?date=2023-05-20
of course, always bring both to any ride in Wales. and not just because a waterproof is a lightweight extra layer for keeping warm at night.Don't forget the suncream
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcm8dtd3q#?date=2023-05-20
Wow. I'm still going to bring my waterproof!
. 2 weeks ago it took Banksy 25 mins on the hillier route with an overall av for the whole route of 21.5kph.It was a pig of a climb but you also have to go uphill into the village with the long name on the longer route, I was cursing at the time but I guess it was made up for by the directness. I was on gears but for those on fixed I'd take the longer route.
Update sent about bags, bag drops and sleeping arrangement - check your email.
(...)See email subject "ACB | Bryan Chapman Memorial 600 | Bags, Bag Drops & Sleeping Arrangements"(...)
At the left turn in Garreg, before the aforementioned climb, there's apparently a little shop open until 10pm.
After checking streetview, it looks like some audaxers outside ;D ;D
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.9541485,-4.066746,3a,75y,50.73h,79.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE2GEJOxCc5-7hQIfnrOcuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Thanks.(Sorry, nothing to do with London:)
I see the official route back to Kings cuts off "Level Crossing corner" by going over a funking great hill.
The BCM Classic went the Long Way*; I'm inclined to do the same, with tired legs and sleep head!
Is that silly?
*i.e. thru Phenrincannotbespelled.
That route has been explored by Dave Lewis, me, and others. It is substantially slower.
I'm struggling to keep up at the back. By That route, are you saying the longer route or the hillier route is the slower one?
In my experience they are about the same time wise though I can't compare on the same event.
2015 it took me 23 mins the longer way with an overall moving av for the whole route of 23kph. 2 weeks ago it took Banksy 25 mins on the hillier route with an overall av for the whole route of 21.5kph.
If you do the longer watch out for the dodgy oblique poorly marked level crossing in the dark when you are tired round a bend just as you start to descend. Why I've excluded it in that direction.
but there seemed to be a shortcut through a field organised with a farmer next to the road not long after we went the long way, so couldn't help but feel a little hard-done-by when I arrived at Aberdyfi at the same time as some riders who had taken the shortcut.
I left kings at 02:00 due to lack of beds, and promise of available beds at Aberdyfi. There was a diversion of approximately 500m walking through fields, took about 10 minutes, much better than 17km and an hour by the official road diversion.
The police were currently doing their forensic rad examination at the time.
Organisation was fantastic, really enjoyed the route, even the new tougher section between Newton and Weobley, I'm convinced this is much harder than the old return route via Bonllys/Crickhowell/Abergaveny. The coast road seemed nice it would have been great to go though in daylight,Carrying on up and over after Dolfor and returning via Presteigne rather than Talgarth (the latter retracing the route out for the last 95km(!)) is a few miles shorter but 200m more climb compared to the "old return route" (148km + 1694m). Going round the Tywyn peninsula offers a quiet road with great views (and the additional sleep stop capacity at Aberdovey) and also adds enough miles to make sure the ride is at least 600km long.
Organisation was fantastic, really enjoyed the route, even the new tougher section between Newton and Weobley, I'm convinced this is much harder than the old return route via Bonllys/Crickhowell/Abergaveny. The coast road seemed nice it would have been great to go though in daylight,Carrying on up and over after Dolfor and returning via Presteigne rather than Talgarth (the latter retracing the route out for the last 95km(!)) is a few miles shorter but 200m more climb compared to the "old return route" (148km + 1694m). Going round the Tywyn peninsula offers a quiet road with great views (and the additional sleep stop capacity at Aberdovey) and also adds enough miles to make sure the ride is at least 600km long.
Wasn't it you 4 years ago soliloquizing that you were minded to return from Llandrindod Wells over Gospel Pass rather than retrace your outward journey?
Still had a nice time, though?
Gospel Pass you say?Besides the Pendle/Tan Hill 600 no UK calendar 600 has the 8000m of climbing (per Openrunner) needed for ACP's revised 10000 award (replacing an SR600). BCM is the nearest one and heading north over Gospel Pass (info at Llanthony, control at Drovers) would come close to achieving that 8000m. Unrealistic to ask riders to go that way going south after 500km imho. The other scenic 600 not run for a few years but maybe in 2024 is the Kernow and SW 600: watch this space (well, another thread anyway).
We need a "Scenic" option again!
where do ACP say it needs to be assessed per openrunnner? Openrunner was Sophie Matters preference, but ACP have shown they want to do things their own way.Gospel Pass you say?Besides the Tan Hill 600 no UK calendar 600 has the 8000m of climbing (per Openrunner) needed for ACP's revised 10000 award (replacing an SR600). BCM is the nearest one and heading north over Gospel Pass (info at Llanthony, control at Drovers) would come close to achieving that 8000m. Unrealistic to ask riders to go that way going south after 500km imho. The other scenic 600 not run for a few years but maybe in 2024 is the Kernow and SW 600: watch this space (well, another thread anyway).
We need a "Scenic" option again!
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link=topic=124547.msg2812741#msg2812741 date=1684942232Gospel Pass you say?Besides the Pendle/Tan Hill 600 no UK calendar 600 has the 8000m of climbing (per Openrunner) needed for ACP's revised 10000 award (replacing an SR600). BCM is the nearest one and heading north over Gospel Pass (info at Llanthony, control at Drovers) would come close to achieving that 8000m. Unrealistic to ask riders to go that way going south after 500km imho. The other scenic 600 not run for a few years but maybe in 2024 is the Kernow and SW 600: watch this space (well, another thread anyway).
We need a "Scenic" option again!
No we don't. What we need is a non-scenic version:-*
It seems to me that 8,000m can be very different on smooth roads at sensible gradients (as typically found in Europe) than it is on steep climbs and descents and dubious surfaces as typically found in the UK.Seemed to me that this and previous years' Bryan Chapman Memorial almost exclusively followed "smooth roads at sensible gradients" (excluding the two pulls up to King's and down again, and maybe the roller coaster to Staylittle).
My understanding from speaking to the AUK chair (& ACP rep) over breakfast at the AGM is that ACP have tentatively agreed to accept our overall climbing amount for the purposes of the R10000 award, hence BCMs likely inclusion.
So who's had their card back in the post?an innovative approach. I approve.
;D
:thumbsup:
an innovative approach. I approve.
No spoilers please! I'm currently away so won't get to see mine until MondayEven more exciting than waiting for Arrivée!
At Wycombewheeler just needs to include it in a spoiler tag :)Although I have messaged Adamski, others may be interested
At Wycombewheeler just needs to include it in a spoiler tag :)Although I have messaged Adamski, others may be interested(click to show/hide)
Yes royal mail is amazing ;D
Gospel Pass you say?
We need a "Scenic" option again!
Matt.No we don't. What we need is a non-scenic version:-*
:P
Gospel Pass you say?
We need a "Scenic" option again!
You might want to look at Will's plan for 2024: https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/
Well who'da thought?!Gospel Pass you say?
We need a "Scenic" option again!
You might want to look at Will's plan for 2024: https://www.pedalution.co.uk/events/bryan-chapman-memorial-600/
Well done on the revised routes, Will.
I've never seen the attraction of the Trawsfynydd route after dark, preferring your planned coastal choice. Just the one visit to King's then: southbound turning right after the Mawddach (Barmouth) bridge.
I would seek inspiration from Colin's Cambrian 6c for the route south from Knighton to Clyro (473-508).
Gospel Pass at 520km in just adds to what was already a challenging ride.
The easier return along the coast to Aberdyfi and lack of second Kings ascent will get riders further along the route in about the same time as if returning over Trawsfynydd to Kings, so the extra challenge of Gospel Pass will be dampened; plus the elation from the extra views will offset the sting. But then again Gospel Pass is a bit like Cheddar Gorge; a couple of steep bits but the rest isn't too taxing.Classic - put in, arguably, the highest road pass in Wales at the tail end of a tough 600 and it's described as not too taxing :facepalm: This is GWR propaganda in full 'spin' mode ;D
I have the second Kings stop last year at 373km, and Aberdyfi on this years route at 381, so it's not much further along, but avoiding those climbs in the dark will be worth it.
The easier return along the coast to Aberdyfi and lack of second Kings ascent will get riders further along the route in about the same time as if returning over Trawsfynydd to Kings, so the extra challenge of Gospel Pass will be dampened; plus the elation from the extra views will offset the sting. But then again Gospel Pass is a bit like Cheddar Gorge; a couple of steep bits but the rest isn't too taxing.
On a non-cycling logistics matter I now (hopefully) have cheap convenient parking for duration of the event.
02:00hrs Saturday to 12:00hrs Monday just £12 ..I did wonder if it's was a scam, but have used the booking site before, all seems fine :-)
Basepoint Chepstow Beaufort Park, Riverside Court, Beaufort Park, Chepstow, NP16 5UH
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RrXVkMmWjCn28iVB6 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/RrXVkMmWjCn28iVB6)
Booking: www.yourparkingspace.co.uk (http://www.yourparkingspace.co.uk)
First Bryan for me.... let's talk about food.
I got around LEL and PBP because of the availability of HOT and quick food.
(Actually not so quick on PBP but that's for another day)
To the people with experience (!) what did you eat? garages? Greg's?! where, what, when? all the details please!
This is a make or break factor for me.
Thanks a lot in advance
First Bryan for me.... let's talk about food.
I got around LEL and PBP because of the availability of HOT and quick food.
(Actually not so quick on PBP but that's for another day)
To the people with experience (!) what did you eat? garages? Greg's?! where, what, when? all the details please!
This is a make or break factor for me.
Thanks a lot in advance
Hi Will, any news on showers at the sleep stop?
First Bryan for me.... let's talk about food.
I got around LEL and PBP because of the availability of HOT and quick food.
(Actually not so quick on PBP but that's for another day)
To the people with experience (!) what did you eat? garages? Greg's?! where, what, when? all the details please!
This is a make or break factor for me.
Thanks a lot in advance
first control - honey cafe, fairly quick provision of breakfast items like hot sausages sandwiches, or beans on toast
second control - raid the co-op
third control - audax volunteer control at kings quick provision of hot food
extra stop for ice cream
fourth control - audax controal at menai - quick hot food
extra stop petrol station
fifth control audax volunteer control - quick hot food.
newtown - free control cafe, not too slow, supermarkets available, possibly also McD's
next control - village shop snacks and drinks
finish
Remember that gregg's receipts are not audax UK compliant as they do not have the store address, which is a shame because it's quick cheap hot food that is appealing (to me) on an audax.
Probably better, because banana skins should not be discarded to decompose in the wild even though many cyclists do, but apple cores are essentially native and no problems returning to the soil.
Audax controls - also bananas at all - would apples be a good choice too?
Probably better, because banana skins should not be discarded to decompose in the wild even though many cyclists do, but apple cores are essentially native and no problems returning to the soil.
Probably better, because banana skins should not be discarded to decompose in the wild even though many cyclists do, but apple cores are essentially native and no problems returning to the soil.
I agree, after finishing long and hard rides I've sometimes thought to myself that some of the other cyclists in the room look as though they have started to decompose ...
Twice I have done this and used the control for sleeping and twice I have really struggled.
last year (due to events beyond the organisers control, scuppering his best efforts) I had to push on to Aberdyfi before stopping.
Previously when sleeping at kings I was evicted from the dormatory after less than 3 hours to make space for later arrivals, and found the second day very painful due to lack of sleep.
Reaching Aberdyfi before sleep should be easier this year due to re-routing, but will there be sufficient capacity for everyone to stop for as long as they need? (at least 4 hours, or waiting until sunrise preferably), otherwise I may look at separate arrangements
Probably better, because banana skins should not be discarded to decompose in the wild even though many cyclists do, but apple cores are essentially native and no problems returning to the soil.
I agree, after finishing long and hard rides I've sometimes thought to myself that some of the other cyclists in the room look as though they have started to decompose ...
Where on audax uk site are you seeing results for the event. Got a link?I can't find a list of riders, but on my members dashboard page which shows my entered and completed rides, BCM appears on both lists, clicking the riders button on the "completed" ride returns no information.
It’s still there Wycombewheeler under EventNo.