Author Topic: Top tips for doing LEL  (Read 4258 times)

αdαmsκι

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2017, 11:20:02 pm »
If you're are worried about gear cables may I suggest you quickly get use to riding a fixed. There's over 10 days until LEL, plenty of time to learn how to spin downhill.
What on earth am I doing here on this beautiful day?! This is the only life I've got!!

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2017, 11:54:41 pm »
The practicality of changing broken cables at the roadside depends on the kind of shifter involved.  If it's a bar-end or similar, then no drama.  If the cable breaks at the nipple (as it tends to do) inside a trigger or twist grip shifter, then you'll have to hope someone at the next control has some jeweller's screwdrivers (which are also useful for saving the day of glasses-wearers).  Jurek will be along in a minute to explain why you shouldn't even attempt to field-strip an STI to remove the broken cable end...

I had this happen about 300 km into a not-flat 400 km, with Shimano 105 5800 STIs, and the bike was less than a year old. I only managed to repair it after I got home, upon which I discovered there's a handy inspection panel on the bottom which exposes the gear mechanism and allowed removal of the broken nipple. It's secured by a small-ish crosshead screw, which you may or may not have in your toolkit. I'd be happy enough doing it at the roadside now.

thing1

  • aka Joth
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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2017, 02:34:07 am »
If you're are worried about gear cables [...]

Di2.

Next.

Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2017, 05:40:56 am »
whats the sign....a panicky wave of the hand?

No need to be panicky, just pushing rearward with your open hand in a "get the f*** out of my wheel right now" fashion.

αdαmsκι

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2017, 06:23:34 am »
Di2.

Next.

If going down that line then surely SRAM red etap?
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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2017, 10:39:18 am »
Di2?  On my last ride the Front Derailleur stopped working for about 20 minutes, then started working for an hour, then stopped working for 10 minutes, and has worked fine ever since.  I can't see that this is a cable issue, unless it is an internal break. I'm putting it down to the evil Garmin Gods.  The 810 persistently told me the Di2 battery was low, and when the front derailleur 'came back' the Garmin shifted into an adjustment mode I didn't know it had ...

Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2017, 10:49:59 am »
And more on topic: mesh ("string") vest

Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2017, 04:37:44 pm »
And more on topic: mesh ("string") vest

When in Scotland , dress like the natives,eh?  ;)

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2017, 04:47:32 pm »
Get a Rapha string vest. Far more elegant!

thing1

  • aka Joth
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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2017, 04:44:07 am »
Di2?  On my last ride the Front Derailleur stopped working for about 20 minutes, then started working for an hour, then stopped working for 10 minutes, and has worked fine ever since.  I can't see that this is a cable issue, unless it is an internal break. I'm putting it down to the evil Garmin Gods.  The 810 persistently told me the Di2 battery was low, and when the front derailleur 'came back' the Garmin shifted into an adjustment mode I didn't know it had ...

Good point. Top tips for Di2 users:
- make sure the system is all charged before the start
- (If you have the D-fly ANT+ accessory, make sure it has up to date firmware to fix an evil battery draining bug)
- always carry the system charger with you, not rely on it being in a drop bag
- in cold weather, the battery voltage will drop faster (which does indeed cause the FD to stop working first)

All 4 points were learnt from a single character-building experience on the Colorado High Country 1200km. We survived, but 200km on a tandem with strictly rationed rear-only gear shifts in sub-zero conditions on high-altitude climbs in the dark was not our finest hour.
 

Redlight

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2017, 07:38:35 am »
Get a Rapha string vest. Far more elegant!

And what'll that cost - about £120?  (£20 for the materials, £1 for the person sewing it together and £99 for the logo.)  ;)
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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2017, 01:12:45 pm »
I've replaced several gear cables for other riders during long brevets. There is always somebody who dodges the bullet but your chances keep worsening the longer you keep doing it.

Agreed. I always change gear cables before a long Audax due to the propensity of the particular (Campag) right shifter to chew cables. Last week I also changed bar tape and gel padding, tyres & tubes, chain, cassette, brake cables, as well as regreasing bearings.

There's a lot invested in the ride so why leave little things to chance when I no know there little chance of a mechanical. Tested it all on a 300km ride around Oxfordshire yesterday; if it can survive 300km on road surfaces of such appalling quality, after years of under-investment by Oxon councils, I am confident!

wilkyboy

  • "nick" by any other name
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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2017, 05:16:07 pm »
If you're are worried about gear cables [...]

Di2.

Next.

No: fixed.  Next.

Obviously!  :P
Back on the single-RRTY treadmill, whew! :)  LEL-ahoy — X32

wilkyboy

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2017, 05:17:08 pm »
Get a Rapha string vest. Far more elegant!

Ay, but they don't 'alf stink after a few hours — something to do with the fancy materials ...
Back on the single-RRTY treadmill, whew! :)  LEL-ahoy — X32

simonp

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2017, 05:22:52 pm »
If you're are worried about gear cables [...]

Di2.

Next.

No: fixed.  Next.

Obviously!  :P

 But I can't decide what gear to use!


hellymedic

  • Just do it!
Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2017, 06:29:22 pm »
I've seen on Facebook that Olaf has devised a method of labelling his shoes with his name and Rider Number so he gets his own shoes on leaving a control (and remembers his name when in a sleep-deprived state...)

Seems like an excellent idea to me!

Kim

  • An appetite for the epic, but no real stamina
Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2017, 06:51:48 pm »
If you're are worried about gear cables [...]

Di2.

Next.

No: fixed.  Next.

Obviously!  :P

But I can't decide what gear to use!

The DI2 battery will decide that for you...
Watching the TV without subtitles is like riding up a hill without using the gears :)

Kim

  • An appetite for the epic, but no real stamina
Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2017, 06:53:20 pm »
I've seen on Facebook that Olaf has devised a method of labelling his shoes with his name and Rider Number so he gets the his own shoes on leaving a control (and remembers his name when in a sleep-deprived state...)

Seems like an excellent idea to me!

If your bike is sufficiently boring, it might be a good idea to label that too (the memorability of rider numbers being somewhat varable).
Watching the TV without subtitles is like riding up a hill without using the gears :)

hellymedic

  • Just do it!
Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2017, 07:52:38 pm »
I've seen on Facebook that Olaf has devised a method of labelling his shoes with his name and Rider Number so he gets the his own shoes on leaving a control (and remembers his name when in a sleep-deprived state...)

Seems like an excellent idea to me!

If your bike is sufficiently boring, it might be a good idea to label that too (the memorability of rider numbers being somewhat varable).

I understand members of this parish have supplied suitable labels (AKA 'Nameplates/Badges') to order.

Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2017, 08:49:42 pm »
As a volunteer a big thumbs up for labels, marker pen and tags on things -there will be plenty of the same gps's,  bike bags, water bottles, shoes, etc and  plenty of tired minds. It will help you pick up the right one,  not pick up the wrong one and help us solve "whose is this issues with anything that gets left behind.

hellymedic

  • Just do it!
Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2017, 08:57:44 pm »
I really like Olaf's shoe labels!

redfalo

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2017, 09:38:01 pm »
I really like Olaf's shoe labels!

Thanks!

This is what hellymedic is takling about:







You'll have to remove your shoes at most controls to protect the floors from cleat damage. In 2013, there were several reports of shoe mixups which caused significant hassle for shoeless riders. Hence I today labeled mine, using a laminated badge and some cable ties. Also helpful to prevent forgetting my name no matter how sleep deprived I am.

bhoot

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Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2017, 09:54:46 pm »
In 2013, there were several reports of shoe mixups which caused significant hassle for shoeless riders.
And resulted in some cycling 200km in sandals that were one size too small!


iddu

  • Are we there yet?
Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2017, 01:05:09 pm »
I really like Olaf's shoe labels!

Thanks!

This is what hellymedic is takling about:







You'll have to remove your shoes at most controls to protect the floors from cleat damage. In 2013, there were several reports of shoe mixups which caused significant hassle for shoeless riders. Hence I today labeled mine, using a laminated badge and some cable ties. Also helpful to prevent forgetting my name no matter how sleep deprived I am.

FAIL.  No L/R indication  ;D
I'd offer you some moral support - but I have questionable morals.

Re: Top tips for doing LEL
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2017, 01:15:13 pm »
Rather than a visual system I rely upon olfactory labelling.
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