might I suggest the Spa Nidd, B17 ish. only £35, much thicker leather, and well comfy ( for me ) Don't be put off by the brick like sound when you tap it, use it, break it in, and you'll love it. outlast a soggy bottom B17. Plus they have 15mm longer rails than the brooks, which means it'll slide back further, (you need to do this as the metal horseshoe is NOT very comfy) See my review in the ...er....review section