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Title: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: bobb on 20 January, 2019, 05:05:21 pm
...And I decided to go with an extra topping of pineapple. If you're uncomfortable with that, you can do what I can only describe as "ONE!"
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Jurek on 20 January, 2019, 05:07:52 pm
...And I decided to go with an extra topping of pineapple. If you're uncomfortable with that, you can do what I can only describe as "ONE!"
Glaznost!
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: hellymedic on 20 January, 2019, 05:12:06 pm
Enjoy your pizza!
You can have and enjoy whatever you like on or in your pizza.
I am not eating it and your choice has no influence on me.

'Wrong' on a pizza could only be 'wrong' if it caused ill to others.

This is unlikely though not impossible.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Gattopardo on 20 January, 2019, 05:20:33 pm
why can'tyou have your cheese and pineapple hit in the normal way? 

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Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 20 January, 2019, 05:22:48 pm
...And I decided to go with an extra topping of pineapple. If you're uncomfortable with that, you can do what I can only describe as "ONE!"

It's probably better than cold donkey jizz. Or warm, for that matter.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: lou boutin on 20 January, 2019, 09:31:04 pm
I made myself a pizza today; I don't remember the last time I ordered pizza.  My pizza was topped with spinach.  ;D
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: hellymedic on 20 January, 2019, 09:39:48 pm
I've never made a pizza.
I think I last ate  a 'pizza' at a 'Pizza Hut' in Bloomsbury after a brief visit to one of the UCLH sites.

Place was full of thinly-disguised patients and food did not aspire to mere mediocrity.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 20 January, 2019, 10:05:56 pm
I make pizza at home (most Friday evenings if we're not out and about). Make some dough, use the proving time as an excuse for a couple of beers, and then randomize some toppings. Spinach and egg is a classic, of course. Last week I did potato. Some people, including the woman I married, didn't believe potato pizza was an actual thing, even less likely the most awesome pizza.

Anyway, slice your potato really thin (a mandolin if you're not a knife demon, slices should be a millimetre-ish, too thin and they'll burn though). Make the base, brush with olive oil, cover with your potato slices. I like to warm up some sprigs of rosemary in olive oil and cut garlic clove (discard it and the rosemary, you just want the flavoured oil) and drizzle that liberally over the top. Add a few sprinkles of rosemary and a generous sprinkle of sea salt. Don't be a wuss, it needs the oil and salt, like you're making focaccia. Then tear up some mozzarella and distribute. I like to add some halved and pitted olives too. Don't overdo it, the potato needs to crisp which it won't do if you bury it. Shove it in the hottest oven you can manage and serve once the potato is crisp and browned. It's like if Italians were preparing chip butties for a banquet of angels.

The only downside is that you can't make proper pizza at home, you need the fearsome vulcanism of a proper oven to char the base and cook it fast. I learned the pizza con patate at a little place in Narragansett Bay, they had an oven the temperature of a sunny day on Mercury.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Jaded on 20 January, 2019, 10:24:03 pm
I saw your hat last night.

Photo tomorrow.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Butterfly on 20 January, 2019, 10:46:11 pm
Pizza is best with pineapple. It stops everyone pinching it. I like sweetcorn, onion and pineapple, with spinach if it is 4 toppings.  :)
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Torslanda on 21 January, 2019, 11:42:48 am
Guilty secret. Pepperoni & pineapple.

Go, Bob!
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: menthel on 21 January, 2019, 11:52:03 am
Ham, pineapple and the hottest chillies I can find. Mmm. Sweetcorn, on the other hand, has no place at all on a pizza.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 21 January, 2019, 12:18:05 pm
Indeed, sweetcorn, eek. Pineapple is fine.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: robgul on 21 January, 2019, 12:22:30 pm
I'm with the late Michael Winner on pizzas - topped with a fried egg  :thumbsup:

Rob
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: pcolbeck on 21 January, 2019, 12:39:55 pm
Meat feast type but with no chicken and extra chillies.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 January, 2019, 12:49:31 pm
Fried egg and spinach is a classic pizza.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: tiermat on 21 January, 2019, 01:03:08 pm
Fried egg and spinach is a classic pizza.

Not 100% correct, for an authentic Fiorentina, the egg is cooked on the pizza base, not fried then put on the pizza.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: bobb on 21 January, 2019, 01:41:15 pm
Egg on Pizza is just fucking wrong to start with, no matter how it's cooked....
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 January, 2019, 01:46:20 pm
I can't remember where I heard about, cos I certainly haven't eaten it, (probably it was something someone posted here) but I remember talk of a pizza with strawberries. So why not a fruity pizza with strawberries, pineapple, raspberries, mango, bananananana, etc and so on? And an egg.  :thumbsup: :sick:
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 21 January, 2019, 01:51:44 pm
Egg on Pizza is just fucking wrong to start with, no matter how it's cooked....

Nah, it's just a fried egg sandwich. The egg should have a gooey yolk though, and if you want to big it up, add some pancetta (or bacon if you're not middle-class enough to shop in Waitrose and take regular baths). Let's begin to establish our fundamental pizza commandments.

Thou shalt not top your pizza with:

- sweetcorn
- haggis and/or doner kebab
- donkey jizz (for that matter, any kind)
- fruit that isn't pineapple
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: hellymedic on 21 January, 2019, 02:15:53 pm
<pedant>

Botanically, tomatoes, capsicums and chillies are fruit.

Are they 'wrong' on pizza too?
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 21 January, 2019, 02:27:21 pm
Provided their paperwork is in order, they're fine.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 January, 2019, 02:29:07 pm
I think I'll add coconut to my strawberry, pineapple etc pizza.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: pcolbeck on 21 January, 2019, 05:18:57 pm
Egg on Pizza is just fucking wrong to start with, no matter how it's cooked....

Doesn't a traditional Quattro Stagioni have an egg in the centre to represent the sun? I'm sure I one like that in Italy.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Hot Flatus on 21 January, 2019, 05:25:34 pm
Egg on Pizza is just fucking wrong to start with, no matter how it's cooked....

Doesn't a traditional Quattro Stagioni have an egg in the centre to represent the sun? I'm sure I one like that in Italy.

It's a Fiorentine.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: robgul on 21 January, 2019, 05:35:17 pm
Egg on Pizza is just fucking wrong to start with, no matter how it's cooked....

... so I guess you'd frown at a side order of baked beans then?

Rob
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Hot Flatus on 21 January, 2019, 05:51:16 pm
...And I decided to go with an extra topping of pineapple. If you're uncomfortable with that, you can do what I can only describe as "ONE!"


I would never have pineapple on a pizza, because I really like simple trad Italian pizzas and I'm not fond at all of the American style.....but, if you are, pineapple goes really well with red chillies, so...
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 21 January, 2019, 05:58:42 pm
Egg on Pizza is just fucking wrong to start with, no matter how it's cooked....

... so I guess you'd frown at a side order of baked beans then?

Rob

It's quite possible I'm hallucinating, but I'm sure Heinz used to do a baked bean and sausage pizza. O be still my giddy heart.

ETA: I'm not joking, my heart rate staggered up from the usual doldrums of 50bpm to a whopping 77 at the thought of this majestic creation, and it did actually exist!
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: geraldc on 21 January, 2019, 08:03:31 pm
You're not supposed to have chicken on pizza, but somehow it's become the UKs favourite topping. I blame the schools
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: bobb on 22 January, 2019, 09:29:43 am
...And I decided to go with an extra topping of pineapple. If you're uncomfortable with that, you can do what I can only describe as "ONE!"


I would never have pineapple on a pizza, because I really like simple trad Italian pizzas and I'm not fond at all of the American style.....but, if you are, pineapple goes really well with red chillies, so...

I much prefer American style pizza. I remember having a pizza in Turin and it was rank.

Thinking about it, I've had curries in south Asian countries that were shit. Give me my local any day. Way better than that shite...
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: pcolbeck on 22 January, 2019, 09:38:41 am
I read a great article by a food journalist living in Italy (probably Rachel Roddy). For months she kept asking her local takeaway pizza place for an pizza with two toppings (neither of them that controversial) lets call them X and Y and they always said "no its not possible there is no such thing as an X and Y pizza". This is despite X and Y both being well known pizza toppings in Italy and an X and Z and a Y ad Z pizza being on their printed menu. One day instead of a asking for an X and Y pizza she asked for a Y and X pizza "yes no problem". Apparently Y and X is in the list of traditional pizzas but X and Y isnt ....
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 January, 2019, 10:39:26 am
Salt and pepper versus pepper and salt.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2019, 11:54:11 am
Authenticity geeks annoy me. It's like the bores who lecture that 'chicken tikka' isn't something people would eat in India etc. I don't care. If you want to have a chicken tandoori pizza, that's great. Italy does some fantastic pizza, but equally some awful. American pizza, the deep dish kind, is an entirely different food and has its own cheesy merits.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 January, 2019, 12:14:50 pm
I'm sure I've seen chicken tikka on menus in India. It might well be a "reverse introduction" but it's there. And chicken is the default meat in India, for various reasons.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: menthel on 22 January, 2019, 01:15:42 pm
You get chicken tikka. Its the whole chicken tikka masala that is a British invention. I have no problem with it, its a British curry. ;)
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 January, 2019, 01:25:51 pm
Masala just means a blend or mixture (of spices). There are various masalas, as in garam masala, "hot mixture". But you get masala dosa, for instance, so no reason not to have chicken masala.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Hot Flatus on 22 January, 2019, 01:32:40 pm
Authenticity geeks annoy me. It's like the bores who lecture that 'chicken tikka' isn't something people would eat in India etc. I don't care. If you want to have a chicken tandoori pizza, that's great. Italy does some fantastic pizza, but equally some awful. American pizza, the deep dish kind, is an entirely different food and has its own cheesy merits.

They don't annoy me. I know that if I go to an Indian restaurant in the UK there is a 99% chance that it won't serve Indian food. How do I know this? Because I've been all over India. You might like Chicken Tikka Masala...but it is not Indian food..It is inauthentic. Bad pizza in Italy? Never had one. You want bad pizza? Then go back to Vietnam in the 90s. I once got some sort of semi-cooked dough, covered in ketchup with a few Dairylea triangles on top.

Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2019, 01:39:35 pm
Mmm, Dairylea triangles on pizza. That sounds awesome.

I've been to India and like most places the 'authentic' food mostly splits into two categories, brown and red. Red is spicier. It's never as good as people claim and usually results in a deep and profound expression of one's love for cold porcelain.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: menthel on 22 January, 2019, 02:04:51 pm
I am lucky that when I go I get great home cooked food. Its always good and often neither red or brown. ;)

However, that time I ate vegan at an ashram in Orissa. Both ends. Both bloody ends at once.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 January, 2019, 02:43:03 pm
Indian food is great and the best thing about it (I mean food in India, as opposed to Indian food in other countries, though I tend to like that too) is that it's almost always made fresh.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Hot Flatus on 22 January, 2019, 04:55:12 pm
I think some British people can find done Indian food bland because it isn't greasy and often the spicing is subtle.  I've had amazing food in the humbled of places, and of course the street snacks are fantastic. It's always the sign of a proper Indian restaurant in UK if they have chaat on the menu.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2019, 05:03:17 pm
To be fair, I've nothing against proper foreign food, it's just the people who go on and on about how it's nothing like that time we were in so-and-so, did I mentioned we were there, oh and we had etc. bloody etc. Indian food in the UK is mostly awful not because it's anglicized, but mostly because we seem to have the lowest of all possible expectations. I've lost track of the number of Indian restaurants and takeaways I've had recommended to me and they're generally disappointing. One of the things I really miss now I teeter on the edge of the great metropolis is a decent Indian, there's nothing in the jungles of Surrey but disappointment and bears.

On other matters, I am now resolved to put Dairylea triangles on my next pizza creation.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Hot Flatus on 22 January, 2019, 05:39:37 pm
That is probably because the central London Indian eateries may be authentic, whereas the ones in Surrey are the same Bengali shite that infects the rest of rest of the provinces.

It's fine by me that people eat that shit, but it's as close to Indian food as Taco Bell is to Mexican.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Pingu on 22 January, 2019, 05:50:32 pm
Mmm, spicey bears.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2019, 05:53:29 pm
Believe it or not, Taco Bell have tried to launch in Mexico not just once, but several times. Now that's optimism for you.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: spesh on 22 January, 2019, 06:02:34 pm
Believe it or not, Taco Bell have tried to launch in Mexico not just once, but several times. Now that's optimism for you.

Have the Mexicans stopped laughing yet?
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2019, 06:07:19 pm
Possibly they could be enticed into building a big wall to keep them out.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: lou boutin on 22 January, 2019, 07:37:31 pm
This thread sparked a pizza craving.  So I had a veggie-topped pizza - onion, sweetcorn, mushroom, tomatoes, and peppers.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Gattopardo on 22 January, 2019, 08:09:19 pm
Pizza is best with pineapple. It stops everyone pinching it. I like sweetcorn, onion and pineapple, with spinach if it is 4 toppings.  :)

Is that a craving?
You get chicken tikka. Its the whole chicken tikka masala that is a British invention. I have no problem with it, its a British curry. ;)

So is curry powder.

To be fair, I've nothing against proper foreign food, it's just the people who go on and on about how it's nothing like that time we were in so-and-so, did I mentioned we were there, oh and we had etc. bloody etc. Indian food in the UK is mostly awful not because it's anglicized, but mostly because we seem to have the lowest of all possible expectations. I've lost track of the number of Indian restaurants and takeaways I've had recommended to me and they're generally disappointing. One of the things I really miss now I teeter on the edge of the great metropolis is a decent Indian, there's nothing in the jungles of Surrey but disappointment and bears.

On other matters, I am now resolved to put Dairylea triangles on my next pizza creation.

India/indian sub continent is massive and food is very different depending where you go. 

Agree on the low expectations.  Look at spicy foods...
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Gattopardo on 22 January, 2019, 08:14:50 pm
Fried egg and spinach is a classic pizza.

Not 100% correct, for an authentic Fiorentina, the egg is cooked on the pizza base, not fried then put on the pizza.

Is right.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Gattopardo on 22 January, 2019, 08:15:51 pm
...And I decided to go with an extra topping of pineapple. If you're uncomfortable with that, you can do what I can only describe as "ONE!"


I would never have pineapple on a pizza, because I really like simple trad Italian pizzas and I'm not fond at all of the American style.....but, if you are, pineapple goes really well with red chillies, so...

I much prefer American style pizza. I remember having a pizza in Turin and it was rank.

Thinking about it, I've had curries in south Asian countries that were shit. Give me my local any day. Way better than that shite...

Turin is polenta or rice not pizza
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2019, 08:34:16 pm
My wife vetoed the Dairylea pizza, so I'm going to go with the Taco Bell theme and make a Mexican-themed pizza at the weekend. With nachos on top. I might even make a little dough wall across the top to divide it into two halves.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: Gattopardo on 22 January, 2019, 08:40:02 pm
My wife vetoed the Dairylea pizza, so I'm going to go with the Taco Bell theme and make a Mexican-themed pizza at the weekend. With nachos on top. I might even make a little dough wall across the top to divide it into two halves.

I like taco bell, nothing like mexican IMO.
Title: Re: I just ordered a Pizza.
Post by: ian on 22 January, 2019, 09:09:23 pm
It's a fact that you can put on weight just by standing outside a Taco Bell through the phenomenon of cheese osmosis. It's dairy equivalent of quantum tunnelling. While Mexican food isn't exactly an all-singing and all-dancing festival of healthiness, Taco Bell aspires. I want a triple cheese bypass and a taco stent to go.

That said, should you be stoned enough to be mistaken for a prehistoric monument, it offers a certain comfort at the time, even if you're knowingly making an exchange for a sea of lamentation the following morning. Some post-evening regrets can be escaped through the expedient of grabbing your undergarments and sneaking out the front door, others involve twelve cheap tacos and aren't nearly so easily evaded.