Author Topic: A Bridge Too Far  (Read 8219 times)

Maladict

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #25 on: 30 June, 2008, 08:29:51 pm »
Anyone done a GPS file yet?

If not I'll make a start...

Dodge

  • Monsieur Escargot
  • Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow!!
    • Velo Club L'Escargot - Ultra Distance Cycling Club
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #26 on: 30 June, 2008, 09:18:34 pm »
Anyone done a GPS file yet?

If not I'll make a start...


Could such a file be loaded into an Edge 205/305?  I was thinking about buying one...
Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow - steady as she goes Captain :) - http://www.racingsnails.cc

Maladict

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #27 on: 01 July, 2008, 12:02:05 am »
Anyone done a GPS file yet?

If not I'll make a start...


Could such a file be loaded into an Edge 205/305?  I was thinking about buying one...

Probably but it has a 100 waypoint limit - however with routepoints that might not be a problem.  It can take 50 routes according to the specs.  I don't have either of those models myself; ask on the GPS board if in doubt.

Dodge

  • Monsieur Escargot
  • Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow!!
    • Velo Club L'Escargot - Ultra Distance Cycling Club
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #28 on: 03 July, 2008, 03:28:57 pm »
Doh! Just seen the forecast for this weekend, looks like rain, rain, rain and erm rain!

I'm just not having a lucky year when it comes to weather, only the Dragon Ride has so far been dry!!!

Blinking flip!
Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow - steady as she goes Captain :) - http://www.racingsnails.cc

Maladict

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #29 on: 03 July, 2008, 03:47:51 pm »
Hurrah!  :P

Oh well at least there'll be a bag drop to shove some dry clothes into.  I think I shall make use of that!

border-rider

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #30 on: 06 July, 2008, 12:20:49 pm »
I hope the weather further north was kinder than here

I'd not have wanted to be out in that last night. 

Maladict

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #31 on: 06 July, 2008, 01:23:35 pm »
Perhaps I should be glad I wimped out.

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #32 on: 06 July, 2008, 11:28:02 pm »
I hope the weather further north was kinder than here

I'd not have wanted to be out in that last night. 

Twenty of us were. It wasn't that bad. Honest.

Dodge

  • Monsieur Escargot
  • Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow!!
    • Velo Club L'Escargot - Ultra Distance Cycling Club
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #33 on: 07 July, 2008, 08:56:03 am »
I think overall we were actually quite lucky with the weather.  Saturday was pretty much dry apart from a couple of short showers, Sunday morning was a bit miserable (nothing that a couple of cafe stops couldn't resolve resolve), and the last 100Km was pretty much dry.  All in all good stuff!

Note to self - make sure you take advantage of bag drop next time (if there is a next time)!
Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow - steady as she goes Captain :) - http://www.racingsnails.cc

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #34 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:03:16 am »
I was considering not doing this. I'd built up lots of sleep debt in the week before the ride (unfortunately travelling with work rather than relaxing at home), I was starting to get a sore throat and the weather didn't look good. But other than that everything was set up so I just got on with it.

It was a good ride. We were lucky with some of the rain; getting to cafes just as it started and leaving with a full stomach as it brightened. The worst bit was probably in the early hours riding from Warrington to the scout hut in the rain - but having a wash, changing into some clean, dry clothes, having some food then snuggling down for a couple of hours kip sorted that out.
Waking at around 4 to the sound of heavy rain on the hut roof wasn't quite so nice  :(

Sunday took a bit of time to really get into our stride, and there was a slight problem with the route sheet (it said left, it should have been right, but we did get to take very scenic detour through a very lump section, adding about 15K on, rather that taking the boring, flat A road...)

Despite some headwind on the way back we kept up a reasonable speed running a good pace line with the four of us (including Dodge from here).

So, it was a succesful first 600. The good bits outweighed the bad, nothing hurt too much, I can walk and feel all of my extremeties today, so other than needing a bit more sleep I'm OK. That makes it SR for me, to go with my RRtY in my first full Audax season (I rode my first 200 last June).

Dodge

  • Monsieur Escargot
  • Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow!!
    • Velo Club L'Escargot - Ultra Distance Cycling Club
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #35 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:32:16 am »
Well it was good to meet such a great bunch of lads who helped me get through this! I have learned so much from this experience and surprisingly in retrospect I would do it again.

Was fortunate to ride all the way to the sleep control at 370Km with Steve Poulton which really helped and to ride with someone with so much experience provided me with a lot of confidence that it was achievable.

After the re-start, after we lost Steve (due to him deciding to have a kip in a bus shelter), got into an excellent group of four of us - big thanks go to Matt(H) - thanks mate, it was great to meet you - Chris from Cardiff and Dave Unsworth (who at 70 and planning on doing the 24 hour TT in 3 weeks gave us no excuse to moan!!!).

The scenic detour to Church Stretton was just one of those things that I guess happens, but it highlights what can happen when you use a GPS, it got us where we needed to be, but we need a unit that can show the amount of climbing required!!!).  In hindsight we'd have been better turning around, but hey - what's an extra 15Km in the scheme of things!

All in all the hardest thing I have ever done (on or off the bike) - just glad I didn't end up having to do it on my own.  My thoughts go out to Dai Harris who was riding on a recumbent trike on his own for most of the event - must have been very lonely and I know I couldn't have done that - hope he got back OK!  I understand he got to the sleep stop 5 minutes before the control closed!

Cheers guys!  Just a 400 to go now and I've done my SR (I'd be happy to do that route again (well to the sleep stop and then carry on for 30Km - well as long as we could have the same tail wind again!)...
Velo Club L'Escargot - we're great at going slow - steady as she goes Captain :) - http://www.racingsnails.cc

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #36 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:00:56 am »
We had a fast if slightly untidy gruppo to the  first control. Then a smaller number left on Mr Pain's tail and we picked up more, until Mr P wound up the pace and gradually spat everyone out of the back. Mr Lewis and I continued at a steadier pace, braving showers and drying out in between.

In theory it's useful to ride with the organiser, because there's no routesheet reading. In practice, if said organiser wishes to explore variations and possible improvements for next year, the advantage is doubtful.

We got to Coton without seeing anyone else. A couple of folk came in while we were there, and we left as a threesome, stopping not long after to don waterproofs as the rain settled in for the afternoon. 

So we continued all the way to Bickerton and the sleep control, arriving sometime around 2230, seeing no one on the way. Two riders were already asleep, Mr P and another.

I woke at four, left an hour later, and almost immediately managed to misread the route — luckily only a small detour. Then, having passed a few riders, I was on my own. The heavy showers continued.

Somewhere after Craven Arms I stopped at a cafe for food and a doze. DJ caught me at the Weobley control a bit further on, and we continued together. We found DP sitting in the sun at Abergavenny. He left before us. We followed through Usk and lanes until I suggested DJ go on as I was getting slower on the hills.

The lanes along the Usk valley were pleasant apart from the roar of nearby traffic. A few sharp climbs tested my legs. I passed DP and continued to the Info at the Transporter Bridge.

It wasn't there, though DJ was, and we searched, but no answer. DP came up as we were leaving and commenced a search of his own.

I followed DJ on a switchback course from Newport to Cardiff. I think this counted as the hilliest part of the route, certainly hilly enough to challenge fixed legs. I hung on to his wheel, and was glad I did, because the route-finding would have been challenging for a first timer.

Then we were at the the finish, with Steve greeting us from behind his beer.

Two had finished ahead of us. We quite a wait for DP, the next finisher. He'd got lost on the last section. We sat and ate under the big screen TV showing the tennis final (soundlessly, fortunately), and waited for the rest.

Anyway, I'm pleased, because that's my first fixed-wheel SR since 2001.

Nice to meet some new faces from here, and congratulations to the first timers.

border-rider

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #37 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:05:22 am »
... and Dave Unsworth (who at 70 and planning on doing the 24 hour TT in 3 weeks gave us no excuse to moan!!!).


Wasn't it Dave who sustained a nasty head injury, and was hospitalised, on the Elenith a few years ago ?

border-rider

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #38 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:07:24 am »

It wasn't there

It wasn't there last year - when the event was first run - either :)

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #39 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:09:04 am »
... and Dave Unsworth (who at 70 and planning on doing the 24 hour TT in 3 weeks gave us no excuse to moan!!!).


Wasn't it Dave who sustained a nasty head injury, and was hospitalised, on the Elenith a few years ago ?

That was him. He said that he'd been riding with John Spooner, then woke up in hospital.
I'm not sure what John did to him, but I'm going to be careful when riding with him in the future  ;)

border-rider

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #40 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:12:36 am »

That was him. He said that he'd been riding with John Spooner, then woke up in hospital.
I'm not sure what John did to him, but I'm going to be careful when riding with him in the future  ;)

I was almost there as well.  I caught them on Clowes Top, right at the end, and headed to the finish a few miles away.  I was quite surprised that they weren't in just a few minutes behind me - it seems that  Dave fell not long afterwards.

Good to hear he's riding well - it was a bit touch-and-go as to whether he'd sustained long-term brain damage IIRC.

Salvatore

  • Джон Спунър
    • Pics
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #41 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:35:50 am »
... and Dave Unsworth (who at 70 and planning on doing the 24 hour TT in 3 weeks gave us no excuse to moan!!!).


Wasn't it Dave who sustained a nasty head injury, and was hospitalised, on the Elenith a few years ago ?

It was. Badly concussion and broken ribs. The last time I saw him he was being loaded unconscious into an ambulance just before Bewdley. He did write to me afterwards saying he'd given up long rides and night riding, but he's obviously changed his mind.

Quote
That was him. He said that he'd been riding with John Spooner, then woke up in hospital.
I'm not sure what John did to him, but I'm going to be careful when riding with him in the future

In mid-sentence there was a loud crack and he shoulder-charged me. I managed to stay upright and when I came to a halt and looked round he was lying in the middle of the road. The 2nd car to arrive had a local first-aider which was doubly useful as she could tell the 999 operator exactly where we were.

The only damage to his bike was that the front mudguard had been torn away from its bracket at the fork crown. I assume that some débris had got jammed between the front wheel and the mudguard, and brought his wheel to a sudden stop.

Quote
et avec John, excellent lecteur de road-book, on s'en est sortis sans erreur

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #42 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:40:26 am »
Good to hear he's riding well - it was a bit touch-and-go as to whether he'd sustained long-term brain damage IIRC.

Well, at 70 he is on his bike in the pouring rain in the middle of the night, 300K ridden and 300 to go. I think it's fair to say he is not quite right in the head  :)

like the rest of us!


I hope he made it to the end, we got separated after the last garage control; Dodge and Chris set off at an easy pace, I was faffing and not quite ready to go (replying to a text), Dave set off very shortly after they did to catch them. I left a few minutes later but when I caught up to Dodge and Chris a few miles down the road there was no sign of Dave :( It wouldn't have been feasible to search for him, and we didn't have his phone number to call him.

vorsprung

  • Opposites Attract
    • Audaxing
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #43 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:45:48 am »
That was fun

Day one had the odd shower until about eleven pm when the rain set in properly.  But there was a blazing tail wind north.  Not counting cafe stops I did an average speed while moving of 25kph+ right up to the Coton control

Day two had very heavy repeated showers.  The only time the head wind (from the West) was noticeable was on the A road to Abergerveny and back to Cardiff.  Getting caught out in the very heavy rain happened when I was on a A road to Hereford so I just put my head down and kept up a good rate of effort

Excellent sleep stop at the scout hut.  Homemade bread with Lidl jam for breakfast mmm mmm

Rode a lot with a bloke called Andrew from Swansea DA

I finished at just before 8pm, I think I flagged a bit on the Weobley to Abergerveny section

Thanks to IanH for super car driving services

mattc

  • n.b. have grown beard since photo taken
    • Didcot Audaxes
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #44 on: 07 July, 2008, 12:58:46 pm »
Badly Concussion  ...
a small hamlet nr Gloucester, known mainly for its specialist head injuries clinic?
Has never ridden RAAM
---------
No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles

Cycling Viking

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #45 on: 07 July, 2008, 09:40:26 pm »
I agree that the weather wasn't too bad but again tiredness meant errors and I will never make a stupid mistake at the sleep control again -was anxious about this bit as I'd driven passed it about three weeks ago and not found it! Went round and round for about 45 minutes starting at 2-10 am till we stopped at the Bickerton Arms and read the route sheet properly "Oh silly us it says 1.1 not .1" or words to that effect. Got to the scout hut at about 3am hope we did nt wake too many up (Although you lot did at 5am!!!!!!!!)

Got lost in the morning but a woman who was organising a club run (name escapes me but she was a legend) put us back on track to Craven Arms- chased hard to Weobley and got a message from Dave Lewis which kept us going. Averaged 17.3 over the whole trip or so and did n't stop long anywhere save 3 hours or so at the scout hut.

Over distance again but not as bad as the asparugus and strawberries - really must get some reading glasses.

Really enjoyed it - Forgot to say hello to the ancient balck fixed but watched you disappear from me at St Mellons first time round.

Finished but got to learn more.

We struggled on the Weobly-Abergavenny section as well and randomly off route sometimes it worked sometimes it is just soul destroying but were quite happy otherwise.

You know I think I'll try it again, mmmmmmmmmmm, that August Scotland 1000 thing looks interesting - forms in!

Cycling Viking

Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #46 on: 07 July, 2008, 09:50:51 pm »
We sat and ate under the big screen TV showing the tennis final (soundlessly, fortunately), and waited for the rest.




Oh, I arrived just when they stopped serving food but the quiz was starting if anyone was keen. I was n't but ate a couple of answer sheets and a beer mat. I heard the food was nice. Which was reassuring.

vorsprung

  • Opposites Attract
    • Audaxing
Re: A Bridge Too Far
« Reply #47 on: 14 July, 2008, 12:50:13 pm »
I think this sign welcoming you to Wem, which we passed during the Bridge Too Far is the most bizarre one I've seen.

The colours are kinda psychedellic IRL