Mine is
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Sheme the upload speed is so slow!
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:P
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;)
Mine is
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Sheme the upload speed is so slow!
That's the nature of ADSL I am afraid. The A is Asymmetric.
Not domestic I take it. :)
It's probably a badly written test that's cached the stuff on the download test - hence the unrealistically fast results of subsequent tests.
Work:
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Hmmm....... not very fast :( Although we aren't out in the sticks we live miles from the exchange.
Apart from Chris S and Hugo,
I HATE YOU ALL!
I'M GOING TO THKWEAM AND THKWEAM AND MAKE MYTHELF THICK!
IT'TH NOT FAIR!
The bad news: BE broadband is not technically-compatible with the type of landline you currently have.
In practical terms though, where do higher download speeds stop being an advantage?
You are after all dependent on the bandwidth of the remote server, Photobucket, YACF, ITunes or whatever.
A high bandwidth in the office may allow 100 people to each grab a slice of a 100Meg connection but you may still be downloading from a server with a 10Meg connection.
Having never tried downloading, say, a 10MB podcast using >100Mb connection, is it really 10x quicker than a 10Mb connection?
I'm surprised to see a Web development company with such poor bandwidth, I'd have thought that sort of performance could have an adverse effect on your business.
I cancelled my free trial of 20Mb (18Mb donwload speed) and reverted to my 10Mb because I couldn't see any significant difference.
In practical terms though, where do higher download speeds stop being an advantage?
You are after all dependent on the bandwidth of the remote server, Photobucket, YACF, ITunes or whatever.
A high bandwidth in the office may allow 100 people to each grab a slice of a 100Meg connection but you may still be downloading from a server with a 10Meg connection.
Having never tried downloading, say, a 10MB podcast using >100Mb connection, is it really 10x quicker than a 10Mb connection?
I'm surprised to see a Web development company with such poor bandwidth, I'd have thought that sort of performance could have an adverse effect on your business.
I cancelled my free trial of 20Mb (18Mb donwload speed) and reverted to my 10Mb because I couldn't see any significant difference.
In practical terms though, where do higher download speeds stop being an advantage?
:oNah...Crediton's the centre of civilisation, mate!
BT in the boonies.
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I suppose it is supposed to be asymmetric!
S
Apart from Chris S and Hugo,
I HATE YOU ALL!
I'M GOING TO THKWEAM AND THKWEAM AND MAKE MYTHELF THICK!
IT'TH NOT FAIR!
I had the same issue with BT. Very slow. The contention ratio is too high (too many people trying to use the same bandwidth at the same time. If you can get O2 (Be Broadband) at your exchange then consider changing to them. They use ADSL2+ which offers faster upload and download speeds. They're also very good at customer service. A lot better than BT ever were with me.
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That was a bit of surprise. I tried it the other night and it was ~3annabit I think. Most we ever had from shiTiscali was about 2, so I was a bit startled to see over 6!
O2 are weasels with a download limit that isn't in their paperwork or selling material. This on a premium account that was costing way more than the base level one.
Singularly unhelpful too.
And the f'wits still send me survey links asking me to rate their broadband service.
I'm not convinced that contention is the issue. My connection speed is not significantly faster at 2-3 am (my partner's keen on astronomy so I may be at my pooter at silly o'clock.)
If you are connected directly to O2 equipment at an unbundled phone exchange, then O2 don't enforce any kind of download limit.
Unbundling is, like Broadband was originally, being rolled out in places where there are already things like Cable - it is far better to provide competing fast internet in two or three varieties in a few places than to look at overall coverage across the country, isn't it.
No you can connect wirelessly it's just that they are saying that the whole thing is dragged down to the wireless connection speed and that if two or more computers connect wirelessly the link is in effect shared. As I understand it one computer connected wirelessly should broad brush be the same as a wired connection.
AndyC
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o2 home broadband standard, twelve and a half quid a month. I thought it would show more speed than that, perhaps it will at another time of day.
. One of the selling points of infinity is that families with 2-3 computers can all enjoy fast BB however the website suggest that wireless connection of these to the hub would prevent full benefit. Thus Ethernet from the PC to the Hub is their chosen method of connection which rather misses the point.I suspect what they are trying to point out is that currently (without Infinity) the slowest part of the link from wireless PC to website is not the wireless but probably the broadband. As broadband has improved, the speed of the wireless is becoming a governing factor. In any scenario, they whole thing is always going to be no faster than the slowest component, it seems they are implying that the slowest component is now not the broad band but the wireless.
The broadband availability checker at Sam Knows is a very good place to get info about what's available to you at your exchange:
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker (http://www.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker)
It says for me: "However, there is another service on your phone line (e.g. ADSL, LLU, DACS, etc) that would prevent you from ordering a new ADSL connection".
Is that just because I currently have an ADSL connection - that needs unlocking (or whatever they call it) before I can sign up with another provider?
Actually SamKnows doesn't list Virgin Media as being available for my area - but that's my current provider - so it looks like Sam doesn't know everything.
Shame the cable modem is flakey. It seems Virgin anticipated it being flakey as they've conveniently supplied a switch on the power cable to make it easy to power cycle.
Apart from Chris S and Hugo,
I HATE YOU ALL!
I'M GOING TO THKWEAM AND THKWEAM AND MAKE MYTHELF THICK!
IT'TH NOT FAIR!
Shame the cable modem is flakey. It seems Virgin anticipated it being flakey as they've conveniently supplied a switch on the power cable to make it easy to power cycle.
That's handy. If you moan at support, will they provide a watchdog monkey to frobnicate it when the connection goes down?
Well, having called every supplier listed as being LLU or somesuch in my telephone exchange, I can safely say none of this fabulous technology will make any difference to me, since the I am doomed until the very end of time to having BT deliver their precious cargo of telephony electrons by horse and cart.
Will your area get Infinity soonish?
I say "claimed" because speedtest.net returns a download speed around 1Mb/s lower than what the DSL monitoring stuff in the systray reports.
Will your area get Infinity soonish?
September 2011. Hot on the heels of electricity and running water.
Of course, as I have noted, the exchange getting another constellation of flickering LEDs may have little effect on me. I won't hold my breath. Not only does it involve upgrading the exchange, but my successful navigation through the Stygian mists of the BT call centre experience, and the confluence of fates that will somehow result in the miraculous appearance of a competent BT engineer on my doorstep.
My mentor at work has been telling me the sorry tale of how he only gets 0.25Mb download. He phoned BT and they said that was about all he could get. I suggested mobile broadband might be a better option for him - true?
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I quite like vispa too, they're nice people when you speak to them. The main frustration is when the network dies over the weekend or at night, as their helpdesk is only available daytimes and half day on saturday (I think - it might be a bit better now)
I say "claimed" because speedtest.net returns a download speed around 1Mb/s lower than what the DSL monitoring stuff in the systray reports.
That's entirely normal - the speed being measured by speedtest.net is that between you and their server. You might get better results from a different speedtest.net server.
The speed being reported in the systray will be the speed at which the ADSL device has synchronised with the exchange.
Of course, as I have noted, the exchange getting another constellation of flickering LEDs may have little effect on me. I won't hold my breath. Not only does it involve upgrading the exchange, but my successful navigation through the Stygian mists of the BT call centre experience, and the confluence of fates that will somehow result in the miraculous appearance of a competent BT engineer on my doorstep.
I'll probably try to brave this in the spring and report back here.
If things get out of hand, we might prevail upon Brent Cyclists OpenReach engineer member, but we try to avoid mixing business with pleasure.
This is where an ISP with a member of staff whose unofficial job title is "BT slayer" comes in. Seriously.
Mine says 'Speed :54.0 Mbps' is that good ? Im not very good with computer stuff.
Mine says 'Speed :54.0 Mbps' is that good ? Im not very good with computer stuff.
Your IP address indicates that you're on PlusNet. As far as I know, they only offer normal ADSL services - up to 8Mbit. As suggested above, I think you're just seeing the speed at which your computer is connected to your wireless access point. Your ADSL router's web interface (at http://192.168.0.1 (http://192.168.0.1) or http://10.0.0.138 (http://10.0.0.138) perhaps?) will tell you at what speed it has synchronised with the DSLAM at your local BT exchange and speedtest.net (http://speedtest.net) will give you an idea of the real-world speeds you're likely to achieve.
Well, having called every supplier listed as being LLU or somesuch in my telephone exchange, I can safely say none of this fabulous technology will make any difference to me, since the I am doomed until the very end of time to having BT deliver their precious cargo of telephony electrons by horse and cart.
Will your area get Infinity soonish?
Here is tonight's gem. You've got to admit my speed is rock steady...
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pah! Read 'em and weep. The wooden spoon is mine!
AIUI It's usual to have upload slower than download. Your ping seems reasonably brisk too.
Your upload and ping are OK but your download's rubbish. I'm sure the forum geeks will have explanations and suggestions.
High contention ratio, on a little copper cable, in other words?
I thought things were slow round here and I find that it's been consistently down to 5 MB/s the last few days. Just checked what I pay Virgin for - it's 20MB/s!
>:(
Virgin (cheapest one)
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>:(
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Something to do with the horrible crackling noises I can hear when I pick up the phone, perhaps?
Seriously though, TalkTalk are rubbish.
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For which we pay a lot.
Holy cow - I've just had an upgrade to ADSL2+
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Just have to wait for the upstream to be uncapped now. ;D :thumbsup:
i let it choose it's preferred server for the test which ended up in Dublin(!) though. I suspect that has most effect on the ping time and fine-tuning the server used woudln't improve my other scores much...
why did it all go pear shaped?
FWIW the speed checker on
Broadband.co.uk Dedicated to finding the best broadband for you (http://www.broadband.co.uk/) is probably as accurate as it gets. I know the person who wrote it, and it includes all sorts of edge-case heuristics to make up for lack of decent data from BT.
Virgin (cheapest one)
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Gone back to crap again. Bleugh.
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i let it choose it's preferred server for the test which ended up in Dublin(!) though. I suspect that has most effect on the ping time and fine-tuning the server used woudln't improve my other scores much...
Yup...
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:P
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:P
With a bit of luck the wire direct from google HQ to google London passes underneath my house in Bristol. Will they notice if I tap into it with a T socket? ;)
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:P
Interesting that its asymmetry thing1. Perhaps some traffic shaping on the switch access ports.
You mean SDSL not ADSL both are DSL :)
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Our slow speed is only half the problem - the connection keeps dropping out too.
Thanks, BT. ::-)
edit - I though that I'd get an image above. I'll try again, sorry.
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i let it choose it's preferred server for the test which ended up in Dublin(!) though. I suspect that has most effect on the ping time and fine-tuning the server used woudln't improve my other scores much...
Yup...
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New ISP:-
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TalkTalks version. For some reason the router speed is supposed to be quicker; anyone know why?
Helly: your string theory's the wrong way round: Wet string's the good kind (in as much as it transmits electrons more effectively than dry string, but not as well as copper wire). Of course, what you've probably got is a leaky junction box somewhere, and the packets are being eaten by frogs and fish and things when it gets wet.
Windows computers throw a hissy fit and refuse to recognise themselves at a new IP address so they need a reboot where it hurts, cos it's the only language they understand.
You might not have to pay much (or anything) extra if you're already with BT, though you could get roped into a longer contract.
The BT website can give you an estimated speedfor your phone number but I don't know how accurate this is; it was wildly optimistic (3-8Mbps) in the time before we had Infinity and consistently connected at 2Mbps.
We now have a theoretical maximum of 38Mbps and have achieved this at times.
Hmph. I want to throw stuff at the telly every time an ad for Virgin comes on. What's the point of advertising something to people who couldn't even use your product if they wanted to? I thought telly advertising was different in each region, so it's not like they need to advertise it round here - unless they're doing it deliberately to taunt me.
Bastard Bloody Branson.
d.
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We are far away though.
Aidan, I got BT Infinity last month. Yacf loads faster, vids on YouTube and BBC News still stutter and stop. BT Home Hub is mediocre kit, BT Desktop Help is a pile of poo and the nice OpenReach engineer snipped my landline phone extension cables.
It's been a mixed blessing...
Hope your overall experience is more positive than mine!
Aidan, I got BT Infinity last month. Yacf loads faster, vids on YouTube and BBC News still stutter and stop. BT Home Hub is mediocre kit, BT Desktop Help is a pile of poo and the nice OpenReach engineer snipped my landline phone extension cables.
It's been a mixed blessing...
Hope your overall experience is more positive than mine!
Helly, I'm afraid I'm expecting pretty much what you got! Previous experience tells me I should leave well alone, but the lure of more speed when we have 4 people connected is too strong!!
Fingers crossed
Argh, you've just reminded me that our latest date was end of June too.
We are now due Infinity end of September. Our original quoted timeline was end of December, 2010. Hence my email to them, a few minutes ago, wondering whether their project planning is seriously so poor that they get it wrong by years, or they're in the habit of lying to their customers to keep their interest piqued.
It made me feel better, anyway ;D
Argh, you've just reminded me that our latest date was end of June too.
We are now due Infinity end of September. Our original quoted timeline was end of December, 2010. Hence my email to them, a few minutes ago, wondering whether their project planning is seriously so poor that they get it wrong by years, or they're in the habit of lying to their customers to keep their interest piqued.
It made me feel better, anyway ;D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11325452 ;D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11325452 ;D
That's excellent!
Fibre has been installed to our cabinet. I've seen the new cabinet with my very own eyes and it has a sticker on it saying "high speed internet is now available in this area" or words to that effect. Yay!
Unfortunately, BT's website is still showing it as being unavailable in this area, so I can't sign up. :facepalm:
Maybe it's still in the testing phase. Or maybe it's one of those things that you have to actually phone up and speak to a human being to get sorted. Once it's up and running, we should be able to get around 20mbps. Not ideal but still an awful lot better than our current <1mbps.
d.
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I'm quite disappointed that I can't get the Upload over 300 Mb/s. I've had a few which are a little faster, about 290 Mb/s. That PC is on Gigabit Ethernet, but it is sharing it with several other machines on a switch.
I think we can get 10Gigabit Ethernet put it now, if we need to go a bit faster. ;D
I've just run the broadband line checker on some addresses between us and the cabinet and they're showing as having fibre optic broadband available.
I'm beginning to wonder if maybe we're connected to a different cabinet to the one I thought we were.
Only if you're a current BT customer...
d.
That's nice Sgt Pluck. Shame you had to wait so long.Hopefully citoyen will get this soon...
That's nice Sgt Pluck. Shame you had to wait so long.Hopefully citoyen will get this soon...
Thanks, but I'm not holding my breath! And even when we get FTTC, I think we'll get 20mbps at most because of the distance between our house and the C. Still, 20mbps would be a huge improvement so I'd take that.
d.
That's nice Sgt Pluck. Shame you had to wait so long.Hopefully citoyen will get this soon...
Thanks, but I'm not holding my breath! And even when we get FTTC, I think we'll get 20mbps at most because of the distance between our house and the C. Still, 20mbps would be a huge improvement so I'd take that.
d.
They're estimating about 70 Mbps for me. I won't hold my breath, but it's got to be better than the current 2-4 Mbps range. No idea where the cabinet is, our wires live underground. We shall see.
Ooh, a show-off thread:(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2209569954.png)
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Fiber to the home ftw. I should get 100Mbit, I doubt these testing servers can reliably test that. Or my cheapass 100mbit switch ruins it.
Ooh, a show-off thread:(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2209569954.png)
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Fiber to the home ftw. I should get 100Mbit, I doubt these testing servers can reliably test that. Or my cheapass 100mbit switch ruins it.
New laptop, better cable/switch management in house.
I have now been upgraded.
Upload speed is better.
I suppose things may yet ramp up a bit.
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arvid, you must be gutted at that laggy laggy ping.
Here's t'other end of the scale:
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BT's finest. Less than 50 miles from that London - but about 7 from the nearest exchange in Essex, and maybe less than 1 from the nearest in Suffolk. But connections across county boundaries Are Not Allowed.
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How are people getting on with BT Infinity 2 using fibre to the cabinet?
How are people getting on with BT Infinity 2 using fibre to the cabinet?
I'll let you know shortly. Engineer due this morning. If I disappear it's all gone horrible wrong. My ADSL currently runs between 2 and 4 Mb/s. It may involve some internal restructuring and sneakily relocating the boxes to my top floor HQ; computers on second floor, master socket on ground (right next to the fiends' litter tray, which they fortunately don't use, but may if they don't take a shine to the BT engineer).
How are people getting on with BT Infinity 2 using fibre to the cabinet?
I'm back. BT man messed with the cabinet (ah, that's where it is) and then came back and plugged everything in. I would advise you make sure they test all the phones before they leave, because if I hadn't grabbed him, I've have no extension lines.
I suspect my wife will pull that face if she comes home to find cat5 cable snaking up the stairs.
Quote from: arvid(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2209569954.png)
New laptop, better cable/switch management in house.
You lot piss me off.
The master socket is where the line enters your property and extensions run from that.
Our BT engineer was too lazy to run Cat5 from the master socket, so put the modem on an extension in David's study, without discussing this with us.
To be fair, the connection speed has been the same with the modem in David's study or at the master socket.
Chopping the wiring to other extensions from David's study was inexcusable.
If the phone wiring is old will they replace it?
If the phone wiring is old will they replace it?
They'll lay a data extension cable up to a certain length (which I can't remember) between modem and wireless box. I doubt they'll touch any wiring you have after the master socket as that's yours to contend with. As to the wiring before the box, that's BTs and they'll only meddle if you can convince them that it's broken. That's a bit like convincing the witchfinder general that you're just a lady in a pointy hat who likes cats.
If the phone wiring is old will they replace it?
If the phone wiring is old will they replace it?
They'll lay a data extension cable up to a certain length (which I can't remember) between modem and wireless box. I doubt they'll touch any wiring you have after the master socket as that's yours to contend with. As to the wiring before the box, that's BTs and they'll only meddle if you can convince them that it's broken. That's a bit like convincing the witchfinder general that you're just a lady in a pointy hat who likes cats.
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Pretty shit really, due to being at the far end of a 3 mile cable down to the nearest exchange. Thankfully my employer pays most of the bill or BT would have had the big FO by now. I know they can't do much about it but I resent paying so much for so little.
When BT rang to offer me BT Vision ,I told the woman it would be waste of time and she actually agreed with me after looking at the speed test.
Short vids a la Youtube are O.K but a football match is just a joke. It took me 3 hours to download a TV programme .
That's what worries me. I live in a 126 year old flat (http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2742960), and the phone wiring isn't much younger from the looks of it!
That's what worries me. I live in a 126 year old flat (http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2742960), and the phone wiring isn't much younger from the looks of it!
Mine was built around 1350, and I suspect the phone wiring predates that. May have something to do with my pathetic "Broadband" speeds! :(
If the phone wiring is old will they replace it?
They'll lay a data extension cable up to a certain length (which I can't remember) between modem and wireless box. I doubt they'll touch any wiring you have after the master socket as that's yours to contend with. As to the wiring before the box, that's BTs and they'll only meddle if you can convince them that it's broken. That's a bit like convincing the witchfinder general that you're just a lady in a pointy hat who likes cats.
I meant the wiring that comes into the flat to the phone socket.
Modem? No wireless router?
They'll lay a data extension cable up to a certain length (which I can't remember) between modem and wireless box. I doubt they'll touch any wiring you have after the master socket as that's yours to contend with. As to the wiring before the box, that's BTs and they'll only meddle if you can convince them that it's broken. That's a bit like convincing the witchfinder general that you're just a lady in a pointy hat who likes cats.
Infinity has a separate modem (declared by my wife, she of the many cushions, to be ugly) and router (less ugly) rather than an integrated unit.
QuoteInfinity has a separate modem ... and router ... rather than an integrated unit.
Can I just use my existing router?
This place was built in 1932. Man next door has lived here since...
This place was built in 1932. Man next door has lived here since...
That must be a tad inconvenient. Do you have a bathroom rota?
They'll lay a data extension cable up to a certain length (which I can't remember) between modem and wireless box. I doubt they'll touch any wiring you have after the master socket as that's yours to contend with. As to the wiring before the box, that's BTs and they'll only meddle if you can convince them that it's broken. That's a bit like convincing the witchfinder general that you're just a lady in a pointy hat who likes cats.
Infinity has a separate modem (declared by my wife, she of the many cushions, to be ugly) and router (less ugly) rather than an integrated unit.
So I've got to have two units plugged in and running instead of just my current router? Sounds a bit primitive. Any idea what the thinking is behind such a retrograde step? Can I just use my existing router? I hate have lots of tangled wiring and this sounds like it'll be exactly that.
What's a PRAM reset?
Have you restarted the router?
Have you connected any slow, archaic equipment by ethernet?
We have Cat5 snaking across the hall and up the stairs.
I do not like it and it's a trip hazard as I can't lift my feet.
This is what you get if you're lucky enough to be on Google Fiber.
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This is what you get if you're lucky enough to be on Google Fiber.
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A high point in BT's broadband provision. This is ~50 miles from That London:
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Just stumbled on this and I'm feeling better. Why? Because there are lots others who get just as poor service as I do and my 0.3 Mb/s appears comparable with others here.
Rather annoying that in a 'market economy' we appear to be getting markedly different performance for the same cost. I have no choice as cable was never installed in the village so am reliant on the telephone line which limits the speed. Less than 4 miles away my mate gets 30 Mb/s via Virgin cable. Another (same distance gets 15 Mb/s.
A difficult situation indeed and for some people attempting to develop a business the situation regarding poor internet connectivity conspires against them.
The future? We will probably be outside the 95% of the population who will benefit from fast broadband. So may I pay a commensurate sum for the service provided? No chance!
Today I've had a free upgrade from 20CN to 21CN (thank you A&A) :thumbsup:
While the speed isn't anything special compared some posted here it is a big improvement for me living in rural NE Scotland.
Today
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Last weekend
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After my long wait to get Infinity (which has been pretty good), my prospective move to wild bear country will strip me of this and (as far as I can tell) put me back in the queue. Still, it is the real boonies, an entire 17 miles from central London.
A high point in BT's broadband provision. This is ~50 miles from That London:
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/3049240927.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3049240927) ;D ;D
arvid, you must be gutted at that laggy laggy ping.
Here's t'other end of the scale:
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TBH, Veloman, as soon as I can bin terrestrial BB I will. In the one spot in the house I can get a 3G signal, I can achieve about 5mb/s download speeds. That's usable. At Heathrow the other day, on 4G, I saw 35mb/s plus. It's likely that 4G will reach my home before BT gets the wired BB up to the government's minimum 2mb/s standard (it's not even in the long-term plan for my exchange). BT is not interested in the rural market and would dearly love to ditch it. I will happily assist them by fucking off at the earliest opportunity.
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I do not want to pay yet another fifty quid for yet another box.
rural Norfolk
download 1.3mb/s
upload .33mb/s
You lot just have no idea how fortunate you are
You lot just have no idea how fortunate you are
Well, I'm officially going back in time. Although the exchange is enabled and accepting orders, the cabinet is not thusly empowered with fibre, so back to ADSL I go. Apparently they can't tell me when it'll get upgraded though they think 'soon'.
At least I can see the cabinet out of the window and the exchange is not too far away, so I might get decent broadband. I'll be collecting more routers though. Apparently they can't not send me another one.
rural Norfolk
download 1.3mb/s
upload .33mb/s
You lot just have no idea how fortunate you are
A high point in BT's broadband provision. This is ~50 miles from That London:
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Basil that ping time is horrendous. Some serious buffering problems on your link I think. Your getting twice the latency you would expect pinging across the transatlantic cable from the UK to East coast USA !
Basil that ping time is horrendous. Some serious buffering problems on your link I think. Your getting twice the latency you would expect pinging across the transatlantic cable from the UK to East coast USA !
Could that be explained by the fact that I am at the extreme limit (distance wise) of my neighbour's wireless? The signal is so weak that it drops in and out.
(S'ok, I have their permission)
A high point in BT's broadband provision. This is ~50 miles from That London:
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A high point in BT's broadband provision. This is ~50 miles from That London:
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I had BT out to investigate my slow speeds. The engineer got it to increase from 1mbs to 6.
Worth trying.
A high point in BT's broadband provision. This is ~50 miles from That London:
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I had BT out to investigate my slow speeds. The engineer got it to increase from 1mbs to 6.
Worth trying.
So I guess its move house or lump it ;D
So I guess its move house or lump it ;D
I've already come to the conclusion that this is my only realistic option. It has also occurred to me that the further we progress into the 21st century, the more likely it is that poor internet availability could have a seriously detrimental effect on house prices. My one glimmer of hope is that someone successfully sues BT for this and thus encourages them to fix it for the rest of us.
A lot of the pressure for faster speeds in rural areas comes from the "Captains of Industry" and similar types who have moved to or have second (third?) homes in those areas.
Your error, and mine, is to live in an area that that is not attractive to the "posh".
I don't see on what grounds they could sue. There is no law saying BT must provide high speed broadband.
Its the nature of a privatized phone network.
It's effectively history here (where I live), Pat, as no-one's interested in dragging it out of the 1980s! Therefore people have sourced alternatives. Satellite broadband might not compare particularly favourably against fibre, but it compares brilliantly against 0.9mb wired! And 4G data prices are more affordable than not getting the data in the first place (actually, I have a 5Gb/month 4G contract which is about the same price as BT's basic broadband package, so it's not that bad). You're right that 4G isn't available yet where I live (3G is, intermittently), but it's more likely to be available than high-speed broadband.
i let it choose it's preferred server for the test which ended up in Dublin(!) though. I suspect that has most effect on the ping time and fine-tuning the server used woudln't improve my other scores much...
Yup...
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New ISP:-
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Test done earlier on when there seemed to be a lot of treacle in my interpipes. :o
Still waiting for BT to sort out my local cabinet so I can get Infinity, it's taking an age. I believe there's some planning problem with the new cabinet location.
"Fibre optic broadband is estimated to be in your area between February 2014 and March 2014."
Still waiting for BT to sort out my local cabinet so I can get Infinity, it's taking an age. I believe there's some planning problem with the new cabinet location.
"Fibre optic broadband is estimated to be in your area between February 2014 and March 2014."
At least they'll give a timeframe. I live in the land of we-can't-tell-you. Surely there's a plan, say I? Apparently it's so secret that they've killed anyone and everyone who knows it. The TE is enabled and other than this little corner of commuterville, every cabinet insists on stabbing me with the words 'fibre is here!' Possibly it's the bears. Damn, all those OpenReach engineers need to do is approach the cabinet dressed as Grizzly Adams.
Most likely it's been because there have been objections about the location of the new (larger) cabinet that services you.
Take heart that it's not all good for me. Over the last 18 months the quoted deadline has been steadily pushed further and further out. I remember checking in November 2012 and being told it would be there in December 2012. Each month I checked the deadline just moved on.
Then BT got told they couldn't do this any more and for the last 6 months mine has been stuck on March 2014. I hold little hope.
Yes, BT Infinity is FTTC (Fibre To The Cabinet).[snip]
My nearest BT fibre is a few hundred metres away. BT says it can deliver 30-42 meg here, & 6-8 meg upload.
Virgin is currently delivering 'up to' 30 (in practice at least 30, e.g. 33 just now), or 60 if you pay more, & promising to uprate 30 to 50 later this year. Upload is much slower than BT promises, though, only 2 meg.
Interesting that its asymmetry thing1. Perhaps some traffic shaping on the switch access ports.
And BT are reducing theirs from 0.9 mbs to 0.2 mbs. At least where I live.Time to move? But I hear that low BB speeds now affect the price of your house.
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Until FTTC arrived, I was getting 2Mb or so on a good day, so I sympathise with people like TimC .
OTOH, I am contemplating a move to somewhere where I might not get even 2Mb. It is a major deterrent.
I can now get the faster stuff (to cabinet anyway). As the fibre only runs to the cabinet would they need to install anything in the house?
I get >10Mbps download already so I need to decide whether to upgrade or not. Could be useful for iPlayer/Amazon Video streaming
Ooo look they've upped it again :smug:500? When I were a lad I did remote support via 9.6k dial-up modem.
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Am I annoying those of you on 500Kb/s?
Ooo look they've upped it again :smug:500? When I were a lad I did remote support via 9.6k dial-up modem.
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Am I annoying those of you on 500Kb/s?
Using tethering via wifi on 3G network during evening (we don't have a landline)...
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... fortunately we are due to get 4G by the end of the year at no extra cost.
BT you gits. Your Infinity availability checker has been saying Infinity will be available ""at the end of the month" for 18 months now but at the end of every month you change it to the end of the next month. Now you have changed it to the end of December ! You are misleading gits and have allready been kicked by the regulator for misleading advertising and you still do it !!!!!!!!!!
Not happy.
Scotland is making a massive effort we saw, Harris and Lewis are being cabled up so they will next year I think it is be very high speed.
Is windybiker still around btw?
PH
Scotland is making a massive effort we saw, Harris and Lewis are being cabled up so they will next year I think it is be very high speed.
Is windybiker still around btw?
PH
Hey, but it's all streets of gold in the south East, ain't it?
It'll never, ever happen where I am. :(
Scotland is making a massive effort we saw, Harris and Lewis are being cabled up so they will next year I think it is be very high speed.
Is windybiker still around btw?
PH
It'll never, ever happen where I am. :(
Might do. They said that about here for ages. We are in a village with only 100 houses five miles from anywhere, they had to put up a microwave link to get us Infinity.
That's about 10 times the size of our village! We're not in any plans, ambitions or 'visions' in BT's universe to do anything beyond getting us to the Government's 2mb minimum standard. That's on the cards for sometime after 2017.I'm in north Essex, 2 miles outside Halstead and a mile or so from the green cabinet in the local village and my "speeds" are similar to yours. A while ago, 2 Mbps would have been a useful improvement but now, with "90% of the market having high-speed broadband" content creators are increasing their output size so that I suspect that soon it will be the case that 2mbps will be no more use than dial-up email!
That's about 10 times the size of our village! We're not in any plans, ambitions or 'visions' in BT's universe to do anything beyond getting us to the Government's 2mb minimum standard. That's on the cards for sometime after 2017.I'm in north Essex, 2 miles outside Halstead and a mile or so from the green cabinet in the local village and my "speeds" are similar to yours. A while ago, 2 Mbps would have been a useful improvement but now, with "90% of the market having high-speed broadband" content creators are increasing their output size so that I suspect that soon it will be the case that 2mbps will be no more use than dial-up email!
I wonder if I'd be better off looking at satellite services but at the moment I know nothing about it.
Surburbia:
[img]http://www.speedtest.net/result/4032519292.png[img]
Although a little more in the upload department wouldn't go amiss, it's usually more than enough. What do folk with >20 Mb/s do?
Surburbia:
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Although a little more in the upload department wouldn't go amiss, it's usually more than enough. What do folk with >20 Mb/s do?
My download seems pretty fast at 47.74 Mbps today but some websitesare still really SLOW.
I seem to spend ages just waiting for small things, like newspapers, to load.
My download seems pretty fast at 47.74 Mbps today but some websitesare still really SLOW.
I seem to spend ages just waiting for small things, like newspapers, to load.
That's because loading websites depends on more than your raw download speed. Most newspaper website pages for example are constructed of lots of different elements located all over the place such as bits of advertising pulled in from other sites and page hit counters that are again farmed out to other organisations. When you try and load a page your computer does all sorts of things such as DNS lookups for all those sites. The page load time will be governed by how fast the DNS server you are using is and how fast all those other websites can send do their thing as well as the slowest link in the path from your ISP to all those services.
Sometimes just using a different DNS server can make things quicker. Try Googles which is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 or OpenDNS at 208.67.222.222 or 208.67.222.220. Setting up a local caching DNS server can make things even quicker.
Using free Wifi at a Premier Inn and to mean yo pay extra for their 'Ultimate' wifi..
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Just had the Virgin upgrade from 100 to 150
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I remember when we first got broadband with Demon. About 2002 I think. 0.5Mb/s and that seemed so fast.
Ho ho ho. Moved house. 38mbps promised. BT Infinity ordered. Congratulations - your Infinity service is ready, they cried...
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Don't I just love BT?
It's up to 3.8 mbs now. Engineer booked for today (would have been the 4th visit) didn't turn up. No excuse given. Promised call back (after an hour's hold to get to talk to someone) didn't happen either. Bill arrived for £146. Grink written to CEO.
It's up to 3.8 mbs now. Engineer booked for today (would have been the 4th visit) didn't turn up. No excuse given. Promised call back (after an hour's hold to get to talk to someone) didn't happen either. Bill arrived for £146. Grink written to CEO.
Yebbut 3.8mbps! You must be wondering what to do with all your new-found bandwidth :D
I'm with Virgin too. Do you notice variation in speed across the day? Also, what networking setup are you using to get over 100Mb/s?Just had the Virgin upgrade from 100 to 150
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I remember when we first got broadband with Demon. About 2002 I think. 0.5Mb/s and that seemed so fast.
I'm with Virgin and my figures are similar.
Up to, dear boy, up to...... :( My free Virgin "doubling" upgrade will cost me another £29 a month apparently, so won't be bothering.
But ur image, it is full of FAIL :PIsn't it :(
It's a strictly YMMV situation.
I moved my AAISP to BE backhaul a long time ago.
This was cheaper.
But then BE got borged by sky.
But when AAISP migrated from BE to TT, it went tits-up big time here.
TTs exchange kit just could not sync reliably with me.
It took several changes of hardware and a bunch of support time to get it to work at all.
pfSense + VirginMedia Superhub (in modem only mode) seem not to play too nicely - In the end the magic sequence of rebooting the modem, waiting several minutes, connecting the pfSense firewall and rebooting the pfSense firewall gets things nice and stable. How resilient this turns out to be I wouldn't wager on...
pfSense + VirginMedia Superhub (in modem only mode) seem not to play too nicely - In the end the magic sequence of rebooting the modem, waiting several minutes, connecting the pfSense firewall and rebooting the pfSense firewall gets things nice and stable. How resilient this turns out to be I wouldn't wager on...
I've been running pfSense with the Virgin Superhub for about three months now. So far they seem to get on OK. I've had several outages with Virgin, and so far its always been enough just to restart the Superhub.
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joys of being in a rural community exchange area
It's not just the bandwidth that's a concern for me, it's total usage.
I work from home half the time and can chew through bandwidth quite quickly:-
Broadband connection details:
Downstream 9,235 Kbps
Upstream 1,199 Kbps
Connection time 3 days, 1:18:57
Data transmitted 823.76 MB
Data received 7.34 GB
If I carry on at this rate I'll be: 7.34*31/3.1 = 73.4GB in a month which is way more than the usual monthly limits of limited deals. (This works out at just 29kbp/s.)
Well, this looks rubbish, but considering where I am you couldn't hope for much more. (And it's free. :thumbsup: )
Youtube mostly OK - Iplayer not great. If I want a program, it's better to download it rather than try to watch "live"
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Virgin are supposed to have ugraded me to 70 Mb but has not moved from its previous 50. CBA ringing them up.They upgraded me from 50 to 76 sneakily. It was expected, but not so soon. Someone in implementation not talking to whoever sends out the notifications?
What are ISPs going to do when using a mobile phone for internet connectivity becomes a reality for large numbers of people?
They charge €30/month for the fibre internet but only €20/month for the cellular connectivity. Aren’t they going to find themselves with two-fifths the income when I no longer need the fibre part?
New BT Smart Hub (notswitched over to BT Infinity yet, that's tomorrow hopefully) is a chunk faster than my ancient v1.0 BT Homehub...
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(we're hiding from the worst of the noise on channel 13)
(we're hiding from the worst of the noise on channel 13)
This strategy thwarted by barakta's crappy XP netbook. Now slumming it with the proles on channel 6.
(we're hiding from the worst of the noise on channel 13)
This strategy thwarted by barakta's crappy XP netbook. Now slumming it with the proles on channel 6.
can't beat a good bit of structured cabling...
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Hmm, what shall I do with all this lovely bandwidth? :-\
I'd forgotten this one from a few weeks ago.
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Checkout the connection type...
Doh. The fact that it 4G doesn't show!
Well, this looks rubbish, but considering where I am you couldn't hope for much more. (And it's free. :thumbsup: )
Youtube mostly OK - Iplayer not great. If I want a program, it's better to download it rather than try to watch "live"
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A little better now that we've moved back into the village.
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Do you get a 4G signal where you live, slope? If so, you could consider using a phone instead (wired up to your computer as needed). I’ve been nearly a year without home internet here in Paris, and it works well thanks to 4G. I even work from home with it. Saves me about €35 a month, too.
There is some potential good news on the horizon though. Our problem historically is that the green cabinet we're connected to is about a mile away, and the exchange is over six miles away. They installed FTTC a few years ago but we're still on copper for that last mile. However, while out walking the dog this morning, we noticed that a brand-new green cabinet had been installed less than 200m from our house, and it appears to be connected to the line that serves our house. This is potentially very exciting news indeed.....
Now it's just a case of finding out how we can take advantage of this new fibrous goodness.........
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Something to do with the horrible crackling noises I can hear when I pick up the phone, perhaps?
You need faster broadband because modern websites are bloated and it's getting more difficult to prevent images and videos etc loading automatically.
I STILL don't need pictures of bananas when ordering my groceries. 'Banana' has had meaning to me for 55 years.
The Openreach engineer also tried to investigate the new cabinet that has been installed about 200m from our home to see if it is online yet. He couldn't even open it! But a call to the control centre managed to ascertain that it is not yet online. No indication of when it will be operational - it was installed before Christmas, so god knows what they are waiting for.
Oh well, we've been waiting for a decent internet connection for so long that another few months won't make much difference. Very frustrating though.
Anyway, that's a red herring. Once you've got enough downstream for n video streams, the main reason people are likely to need faster broadband is because the upstream speeds are stingy on most technologies, and they're wanting to do something upload-intensive (eg. cloud storage, offsite backups, publishing media).
If you need the original 250MB+ Photoshop file they'll send you a downsampled jpeg and then set their out of office...
Great news! We're upgrading our network, area by area, to bring you Fibre Max with faster average speeds of 63Mbps at no extra monthly cost.
What happens next?
These upgrades start in December and run through to spring. During this time, you will be moved automatically from Fibre Unlimited with an average download speed of 36Mbps, to Fibre Max with an average speed of 63Mbps. That's 75% faster and you don't need to do anything.
There's now a forest of green boxes at the bottom of our road – possibly the newest one is related to direct fibre which is apparently on offer. I feel I should avail myself of it (because I don't pay the bills) but I'm hard pressed to know what I'd do with an upgrade on the 60-70Mbps I get via Infinity 2. Am I missing something?
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So that I can play with cloud backups. It was the upload speed I was after.
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I am at home with 9 videos ready to upload to YouTube. The first one is 1'38" and took an unbelievable 13 hours to upload. How do I turn up my upload speed?
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I am at home with 9 videos ready to upload to YouTube. The first one is 1'38" and took an unbelievable 13 hours to upload. How do I turn up my upload speed?
That looks like an ADSL connection. You cant get higher upload speeds I'm afraid that just the way it works. The A in ADSL stands for asymmetric.
The second line proved to be insufficient for two of us working from home ...[/url]
I am jealous as even your poor 2nd line uploads 7 times faster than ours. We are both working from home. Mrs. road-runner now gives piano lessons via Whatsapp, Zoom and Skype. Today 3 of her 5 students had poor enough connections that they had to postpone the lessons.
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Full Fibre 100
Average Download of 145Mbps / Upload of 30Mbps
Upfront Fee: £9.99
Price: £39.99 a month for 24 months (£47.99 thereafter)
Full Fibre 500 (new)
Average Download of 500Mbps / Upload of 73Mbps
Upfront Fee: £9.99
Price: £49.99 a month for 24 months (£57.99 thereafter)
Full Fibre 1000 (new)
Average Download of 900Mbps / Upload of 110Mbps
Upfront Fee: £9.99
Price: £59.99 a month for 24 months (£67.99 thereafter)
But how does the fibre get from the cabinet to my house? They seem to claim that they offer FTTP. I assume it has to follow the path of the copper wire but they've not put any in.
The major factor in broadband speed is the length of the bit of copper that carries the broadband signal - so this is between the two bits of equipment at either end (your broadband modem/router and the DSLAM at the other end). The longer the cable the slower the speeds possible.
In days of old the wire went from your broadband router/modem all the way to a box at the exchange. This could be miles, and that means broadband speeds under 10Mbps.
Interesting thing I learned about BT's FTTP implementation is that clusters of n premises share an optical segment (they join the fibres with beam splitters), and the upstream is time-division multiplexed. Hence the service is asymmetrical.
What? I guess that is BT re-implementing their beloved party lines!
But how does the fibre get from the cabinet to my house? They seem to claim that they offer FTTP. I assume it has to follow the path of the copper wire but they've not put any in.
I'm not convinced it is available, and to be honest, I don't need it (I have Fibre 2 and it's sufficient). But then I don't need a phone line either. Virgin also keep sending me fibre offers, but they have no cabling either. I assume they're trawling for demand.
Miss R has moved back in with us for the duration and is working from home which involves hi def graphics and so on. She has been having problems with the VPN dropping out so I suggested that she connects by wire rather than wifi. I checked and my laptop downloads at around 20 on wifi and 220 on wired. So I dug out a long cable and then we found that new MacBooks don't have an ethernet port anymore!! >:(
You can buy a USB>ethernet adaptor for not very much.
The second line proved to be insufficient for two of us working from home ...[/url]
I am jealous as even your poor 2nd line uploads 7 times faster than ours. We are both working from home. Mrs. road-runner now gives piano lessons via Whatsapp, Zoom and Skype. Today 3 of her 5 students had poor enough connections that they had to postpone the lessons.
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I checked and my laptop downloads at around 20 on wifi and 220 on wired.
Just got ping 68ms, 15.8 down and 17.9 up on the 4g router. BT is usually much faster down and a bit faster up, with 10-12ms ping.
I need to obtain a donkey-knobbler to POE-ify the ONT so it keeps chooching if the mains pixies stop dancing.
Nice.
FTTP remains a distant hope here in this particular corner of the Frozen North.
There are some small rural communities which have Done It Themselves, and got connected, but I don't know what hoops they jumped through to do that.