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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #25 on: 11 September, 2012, 05:51:30 pm »
+10googol   :thumbsup:

Hey! I detect vote rigging!

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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #26 on: 11 September, 2012, 05:54:46 pm »
Of course, if YACF, and other cycling forums, are detected canvassing for Ouiggeaux, or some other cycling bod, then they could disqualify them. There is a precedent for this.

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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #27 on: 12 September, 2012, 09:31:21 am »
Nice Tweet from Hutchinson:

Good grief. I up the ante for Sports Personality of the Year by breaking nat 25 mile record, and Murray wins US open. Talk about overkill.
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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #28 on: 12 September, 2012, 01:36:11 pm »
But, but, Murray doesn't have a personality, so how can he win SPOTY?   He can't even look at who is interviewing him, or smile, or sound happy or grateful about anything.  He may be able to play tennis, but like many of the foopballers, personality is totally absent.
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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #29 on: 12 September, 2012, 04:49:22 pm »
Even after winning the US open, I thought AM looked a bit nervous and unsure of himself. I don't think he is lacking in personality, as he showed at Wimbledon, he is incredibly emotional and thinks a lot about his sport and how he plays it.
 He is streets ahead of most of the oiks in the football world, who on last night's showing would be better off staying away from the SPOTY awards evening altogether.
Wiggo's tweets on getting wasted after the Olympics makes him more like a lot of non sports players and that will score points with armchair punters.

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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #30 on: 12 September, 2012, 05:50:07 pm »
I get fed up of people saying Andy Murray is either dour or has no personality. He's a tennis player, not a kids' tv presenter.

Anyway, changes are afoot. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/sep/12/bbc-sports-personality-of-year-changes
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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #31 on: 12 September, 2012, 06:20:18 pm »
I get fed up of people saying Andy Murray is either dour or has no personality. He's a tennis player, not a kids' tv presenter.

Quite. And a bloody good one.

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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #32 on: 12 September, 2012, 07:22:52 pm »
But, but, Murray doesn't have a personality, so how can he win SPOTY?   He can't even look at who is interviewing him, or smile, or sound happy or grateful about anything.  He may be able to play tennis, but like many of the foopballers, personality is totally absent.

Cav won last year and he's not exactly the biggest personality around now, is he?  In fact I find him tedious and boring, at least when the press interview the Spanish riders they are [a]high[/s] animated and passionate about the days racing, Cav just does a "it was alright, 'suppose"
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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #33 on: 12 September, 2012, 07:25:04 pm »
I would have thought the presence of Nuts and Zoo (who thought they were a good idea?) on the panel would give Jessica Ennis a pretty good chance.  After all, she looks good in running kit, which would appeal to all those adolescent readers.
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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #34 on: 12 September, 2012, 07:43:43 pm »
I believe it's only called 'sports personality' because it used to be 'sportsman' and that seemed rather old fashioned...

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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #35 on: 12 September, 2012, 07:47:51 pm »
Besides, Steve Davies has won it.
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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #36 on: 12 September, 2012, 07:50:06 pm »
If we're going just on personality, Wiggins' only real rival is Hutch.
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Re: SPOTY 2012
« Reply #37 on: 13 September, 2012, 08:20:35 am »
Besides, Steve Davies has won it.

Now that, I have to concede, does indeed make it clear that it has nothing to do with personality after all.  So its not SPOTY at all, then.  Still can't stand Murray, but then I'm not interested in tennis anyway!  I was once interested in Formula 1, but shitface Shumacher put paid to that.  Sportsman?, you have to be joking.  Efficient winning machine, whatever the cost to others, maybe (rather like Senna).

So SPOTY may have nothing to do with either sportspersonship or personality...
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« Reply #38 on: 26 November, 2012, 07:45:41 pm »
3 cyclists on a shortlist of 12. Has that ever happened before? Can't see Sir Hoy winning as he's already won. Would have preferred to see Laura Trott instead.
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #39 on: 26 November, 2012, 07:48:10 pm »
On a related note, just heard that Tyler Hamilton's book has won the Sports Book of the year prize thingy.

(haven't seen the SPOTY list, so shan't comment yet!)
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #40 on: 26 November, 2012, 08:03:13 pm »
Is this the final list?

 Olympic and Paralympic athletes dominate the shortlist for the 2012 BBC Sports Personality of the Year award.

Cyclists Bradley Wiggins and Sir Chris Hoy, tennis star Andy Murray, and athletes Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are candidates in a 12-strong list.

Rower Katherine Grainger, golfer Rory McIlroy, boxer Nicola Adams and sailor Ben Ainslie are other hopefuls.

Paralympians Sarah Storey, Ellie Simmonds and David Weir also make the list for the award on 16 December.

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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #41 on: 26 November, 2012, 08:39:19 pm »
Blimey!  That's a strong list.  I'm not sure who I'd vote for.

(Well, obv not the golf chap)
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #42 on: 26 November, 2012, 08:54:04 pm »
I think I'll have to spoil my vote.
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #43 on: 26 November, 2012, 09:05:01 pm »
No wendyball players?  No motorists?  What kind of list is that? :o
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #44 on: 26 November, 2012, 09:09:25 pm »
No room: it seems to have been cluttered up with wimmin.

Re: SPOTY
« Reply #45 on: 27 November, 2012, 12:41:54 am »
3  cyclists, 3 paralympians, 5 women and 11 olympians of either variety - we're a bit spoilt for choice on quality candidates, aren't we? I'd like to see Brad win it, but I'd not object to any of the field (McIlroy gets past my normal golf filter due to playing with my brother as an amateur).

1 boxer
1 sailor
1 rower
1 swimmer
1 golfer
1 tennis player (but I think we can rule him out for polarising the voters)
1 all-round-action girl
1 runner
1 short/medium/long distance wheelchair whizkid
3 cyclists

If there were a single cycling nominee I could see them winning it, but I think 3 will split the vote.
I may even bring myself to vote this year (probably for Brad), but frankly it'll be a great 2 1/2 hours of TV celebrating 12 worthy candidates and whoever wins it thoroughly deserves it.

Never thought I'd ever type that, let me tell you.

From Popbitch's handy form guide on Friday:
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    4. Sports Personality

    Show: 16th December
    Current Favourite: Bradley Wiggins

    Stats:
    * Individual stars do better than
    team sports (athletics and F1 top)
    * Male stars more likely to win than
    female - though women athletes do well
    * Sports with committed fanbases can
    get behind a chosen candidate
    (Cycling - Mark Cavendish,
    Horse Racing - Tony McCoy)
    * Olympians disproportionately do well
    * English winners vastly outnumber
    others. There have only ever been four
    Scottish winners (in almost 60 years)
   
    This year:
    * The shortlist has yet to be announced
    * Bradley Wiggins is the massive
    favourite
    * Mo Farah finished third last year -   
    and Jessica Ennis the previous two
    years - we can see that warm glow of
    nostalgia for Super Saturday taking
    effect nearer the time
    * Not looking good for Andy Murray -
    apart from the Scottish thing, tennis
    stars haven't featured since 1997
    when Greg Rusedski and Tim Henman
    were the top two
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #46 on: 27 November, 2012, 08:23:14 am »
It has to be Jess Ennis.  7 events and even capable of individual glory in the hurdles. Plus, she is a normal, pleasant and truly humble person.   Second for Ellie Simmonds just because she has such a great personality and has triumphed over adversity with sheer grit and determination. 

Personally I cannot see past these two.

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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #47 on: 27 November, 2012, 09:36:01 am »
I'll be most surprised if it isn't Ouiggeaux.
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #48 on: 27 November, 2012, 09:42:18 am »
Other than the golfist and the puncher, I think they have all earned it.  I hope it goes to Wiggins, for being the first Briton to win what is pretty much the toughest major sporting event in the world.  But I wouldn't be unhappy with the others.  It's a misfortune for those who don't win that they are active in a time of such sporting excellence in this country, as opposed to some of those very thin years not so long ago.
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Re: SPOTY
« Reply #49 on: 27 November, 2012, 10:16:45 am »
To think an ex-Canadian got it for coming second in the thing that Murray won. As you say, this year is a bit tough.
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