Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => The Knowledge => Further and Faster => Topic started by: clarion on 21 October, 2012, 09:43:35 pm
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Anyone use it?
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Yes, though I have zero interest in knowing how fast I am compared to others, I really like being able to see my own performance on a segment (hopefully) improve over time.
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Quite a few people by the looks of things....
Strava (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=59072.0)
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I use it to track rides on my phone when I haven't got a speedo fitted but I'm not that bothered about the segment stuff.
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Thanks, bobb. I'd searched for it, but was surprised when it returned just two posts and no thread.
Marcus, I'm not competitive, and fully expect to be nhundredth out of nhundred and umpteen. Not a problem. I just thought it might be nice to follow a few folks.
If mods want to merge this thread, that's OK. Otherwise, I could delete it to avoid confusion, so long as that's OK with you chaps?
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I did use it a few times when I first heard of it - it was empty locally back then, but not now. I have dumped a load of GPX files up, but ICBA to use the app, as my phones GPS takes forever to hook up compared to my garmin.
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I used it quite a bit a few years ago but found that I didn't have the equipment for it
The android phone I had then wasn't the best GPS receiver it took a little while to come on and settle. Also I had a lot of false readings where it ducked off 100 metres and back!
Now I have a Garmin Etrex 20 the readings are much more reliable but it's a pita getting the gps data from the Garmin to Strava, compared with an Android phone.
I used it the other day to get timings on my hill repeats, by setting up a segment for that. I will certainly be using it for this kind of thing
It's quite funny to see the mega speeds that are reported on Strava now compared with a couple of years ago. My old commuting route follows the same road as a 10 mile time trial so I've dropped from 1st to 3rd to 29th in the ratings :) Before I was winning because I was the only one putting data into it
On the hilll repeats there are a couple of people who are doing that 187m climb in 8m20s whereas my best ever time is 11m
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I think there's a skill to making a particular segment that is unique to you, so there aren't the huge numbers.
On CS7 there are loads of segments, and some have about a thousand entries. I don't expect ever to feature near the top of any of those. It's not an issue. If I were more competitive, I could see how it might wind you up that you need to go faster, cut the corner, crash the lights and all that nonsense.
All this explains why I've seen cyclists pottering along, then sprinting with eyeballs bulging, before reverting to a slow pootle. I guess that they are targetting a particular segment.
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Strava makes no allowance for time of day so you can sneak out at 3am if you want to make faster times. One of the segments I'm ranked highly for is a piece of shared use path along the river. I've got a good position not because I was in any hurry but because I rode it in the dead of night when it was free of all other traffic.
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It's quite funny to see the mega speeds that are reported on Strava now compared with a couple of years ago. My old commuting route follows the same road as a 10 mile time trial so I've dropped from 1st to 3rd to 29th in the ratings :) Before I was winning because I was the only one putting data into it
similar thing with ridewithgps.com; i've used to log some of my rides as i like their interface. they started doing strava-style ranking recently and i'm surprised i'm near or at the top in quite a few segments. with those times on strava i'd be way down the list now
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In a spirit of supporting Our Man, I made the mistake of commenting on Strava. Ever since then I have had an endless stream of emails telling me when someone else has commented.
I can't find out how to turn these off. Anyone know?
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Notifications are in your profile or setting or something. I turned them all off. I'm a recent member to follow Steve. As I don't upload anything the comparison column is fairly predictable.
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Thanks. Just found them. The stream of unsolicited emails seems to have stopped.
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It's quite funny to see the mega speeds that are reported on Strava now compared with a couple of years ago. My old commuting route follows the same road as a 10 mile time trial so I've dropped from 1st to 3rd to 29th in the ratings :) Before I was winning because I was the only one putting data into it
I'm currently 2nd on the segment outside my door. However, that piece of road is being used as the finish for the Tour de Yorkshire in May. Do you fancy starting a sweepstake on where I'll be after that?
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Some of my placings on the segments round here took a good bashing when the Commonwealth Games round race came past the end of my street last year. ::-)
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Likewise a lot of ours went when the Tour of Britain came round last year. Some of the times were pretty humbling.
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For those using Chrome, StravaPlus is quite a nice extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stravaplus/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn?hl=en
It adds a few interesting features (e.g. you can find out your % ranking on particular segments, and get a map of KOMs/QOMs, if you care!).
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I stopped using it as I was becoming a hazard to other road users, when I thought I had a chance for a PB.
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Likewise a lot of ours went when the Tour of Britain came round last year. Some of the times were pretty humbling.
The Women's Tour, being confined to East Angular, comprehensively took out most of the KoM/QoMs in our area, and thoroughly humiliated some of the more gobby club bigshots. Ho ho!
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What's the deal with random strangers giving you kudos for inconsequential rides (seems to mostly happen to trips to the shops, evening pub rides with the local group, that sort of thing)?
AIUI, kudos is basically just a 'like' button, so doesn't really mean anything specific.
Is it just an occupational hazard of being female on the internet, or am I missing something subtle?
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What's the deal with random strangers giving you kudos for inconsequential rides (seems to mostly happen to trips to the shops, evening pub rides with the local group, that sort of thing)?
AIUI, kudos is basically just a 'like' button, so doesn't really mean anything specific.
Is it just an occupational hazard of being female on the internet, or am I missing something subtle?
I don't think it's even that - I used to get them too, and know a fair few who get the same. It's usually the same random strangers evey time. I reckon it's just desperation for as many Strava followers/kudoses as possible.
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What's the deal with random strangers giving you kudos for inconsequential rides (seems to mostly happen to trips to the shops, evening pub rides with the local group, that sort of thing)?
AIUI, kudos is basically just a 'like' button, so doesn't really mean anything specific.
Is it just an occupational hazard of being female on the internet, or am I missing something subtle?
I don't think it's even that - I used to get them too, and know a fair few who get the same. It's usually the same random strangers evey time. I reckon it's just desperation for as many Strava followers/kudoses as possible.
Me too. I have a few regular kudos spammers, always on the short hops- anything up to about fifteen miles, even a mile or so, no matter how slow. Centuries, OTOH, they ignore, only friends and the occasional random bloke give me kudos for those.
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If you are in any clubs on Strava, I think a lot of random kudos comes from that. It seems there's a few people who give kudos to just about anything posted in a particular club, even if its not really very impressive.
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What's the deal with random strangers giving you kudos for inconsequential rides (seems to mostly happen to trips to the shops, evening pub rides with the local group, that sort of thing)?
AIUI, kudos is basically just a 'like' button, so doesn't really mean anything specific.
Is it just an occupational hazard of being female on the internet, or am I missing something subtle?
Is it to do with your privacy settings? I've got mine set to maximum, and I never get kudos from anyone other than my "friends" or "followers" as Strava likes to call them (which possibly makes me the leader of the worlds smallest cult.). Can anyone see your rides if you have the privacy settings set up?
I don't think it's even that - I used to get them too, and know a fair few who get the same. It's usually the same random strangers evey time. I reckon it's just desperation for as many Strava followers/kudoses as possible.
Me too. I have a few regular kudos spammers, always on the short hops- anything up to about fifteen miles, even a mile or so, no matter how slow. Centuries, OTOH, they ignore, only friends and the occasional random bloke give me kudos for those.
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I thought kudos from strangers was because I'm AWSUM.
Gutted.
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(I only post 'proper' rides of about 100k+, don't follow or give kudos to anyone, so they're wasting their time waiting for reciprocal kudos-ing. )
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Strava ... The curse of the cycling classes ....
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I've taken to uploading everything, because graphs and heatmaps. Normally shopping trips are just manually entered distance/time (which tends not to attract kudos), but I've been playing with the android app recently so have logged some shorter rides.
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I tend to post everything too. :-\ I don't enter spin classes as "bike rides" as some people seem to, though, because they aren't actual real miles on a real bike. :hand:
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I tend to post everything too. :-\ I don't enter spin classes as "bike rides" as some people seem to, though, because they aren't actual real miles on a real bike. :hand:
Well obviously not. Velodrome sessions totally count, thobut 8)
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I enter everything on a bike (not that that adds up to much just now). I get the occasional random Kudos from a stranger; they do seem to be seeking to add to their tally of 'friends'. If they do it too often, you can put them on ignore.
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Strava ... The curse of the cycling classes ....
+1
I grew up in a world where one’s cycling capabilities were kept deadly secret between one and one’s team coach.
One’s capabilities were only demonstrated when some fool attempted to show he was better.
Strava, is "some fool attempting to show he is better."
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Rubbish. It's the exact opposite - there's no hiding the fact that I'm crap on Strava, along with 99% of the other users. You can't 'attempt to show he is better' when the numbers show exactly how average you are! Perhaps you'd abolish racing on the same grounds?
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It’s the other 1% we’re worried about.
They’ll end up killing themselves or killing someone else chasing a PB on Strava.
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It’s the other 1% we’re worried about.
They’ll end up killing themselves or killing someone else chasing a PB on Strava.
People who ride like idiots were riding like idiots before Strava, and will be riding like idiots long after it's gone.
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It’s the other 1% we’re worried about.
They’ll end up killing themselves or killing someone else chasing a PB on Strava.
Nope, I'm not worried about them. They'll exist with or without Strava, just as twats driving Corsas at twice the speed limit will continue to decorate roadside hedges, ditches and crash barriers nationwide, even though there is no motorists' equivalent of Strava. At least on a bike they're only likely to kill themselves, and thus improve the gene pool. The evidence would suggest, however, that very, very few have done anything of the sort.
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I like Strava, it lets me record my mileage and the segments let me see how I am doing with regards my previous efforts. I am not fast enough to bother the top 10's!
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It’s the other 1% we’re worried about.
They’ll end up killing themselves or killing someone else chasing a PB on Strava.
People who ride like idiots were riding like idiots before Strava, and will be riding like idiots long after it's gone.
Now the people who are riding like idiots have proof they ride like idiots.
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I'm on Strava, not premium.
Strava seems great for comparing your times to others.
I'm on veloviewer, premium (tenner for the year)
Veloviewer seems great for comparing yourself against your own times. (oh, and it gives you your edington number :-) )
I'm not bothered how I rank to others, but its interesting to me to see my own history on paricular climbs / segments / etc
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98.9% of Strava users have documented proof they are 'more sensible' that other Strava users.
0.01% of Strava users use it to remind themselves where they've been.
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It’s the other 1% we’re worried about.
They’ll end up killing themselves or killing someone else chasing a PB on Strava.
ok, so I don't know if they were chasing a PB or even on strava but... what were you saying?
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/pensioner-died-after-collision-with-high-speed-cyclist-inquest-hears-169828 (http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/pensioner-died-after-collision-with-high-speed-cyclist-inquest-hears-169828)
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It’s the other 1% we’re worried about.
They’ll end up killing themselves or killing someone else chasing a PB on Strava.
People who ride like idiots were riding like idiots before Strava, and will be riding like idiots long after it's gone.
Now the people who are riding like idiots have proof they ride like idiots.
I like Strava but I don't need it to prove I ride like an idiot, that's what I have a camera for. :D
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Strava ... The curse of the cycling classes ....
I tend to agree.
For a long time I tried to take the live-and-let-live path of tolerance. But now it's taking over the real world - every bloody cafe-stop, its all some people talk about.
Recent club away trip - at the post-ride dinner, 2/3rd of riders were staring at Strava and/or Instagram stuffs on their phones.
Depressing.
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Recent club away trip - at the post-ride dinner, 2/3rd of riders were staring at Strava and/or Instagram stuffs on their phones.
Depressing.
That's not Strava, it's phones. If you weren't cycling, it'd be Facebook and Instagram.
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Recent club away trip - at the post-ride dinner, 2/3rd of riders were staring at Strava and/or Instagram stuffs on their phones.
Depressing.
That's not Strava, it's phones. If you weren't cycling, it'd be Facebook and Instagram.
Fair point, people ARE dreadful with such things - but its gotten a lot worse with Strava (which is much newer than the era of almost-total-mobile-ownership ).
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98.9% of Strava users have documented proof they are 'more sensible' that other Strava users.
0.01% of Strava users use it to remind themselves where they've been.
If you don't like it, don't use it. Let those who do like it get on with it. I do like it, and I do like to see where in the scale of ability I lie (well down the scale, as it happens). I do try, on some segments, to improve my time. As does any non-Strava cyclist who does anything resembling 'training' rather than just riding. I also use Veloviewer. Ok, I like stats - so sue me. Most riders in my club use it, and love to have a laugh endlessly (and aimlessly, but it's fun so who cares?) discussing each others' lack of ability compared to, say, the Women's Tour riders who comprehensively took all the local KoMs last year.
It's fun. Get over it.
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Recent club away trip - at the post-ride dinner, 2/3rd of riders were staring at Strava and/or Instagram stuffs on their phones.
Depressing.
That's not Strava, it's phones. If you weren't cycling, it'd be Facebook and Instagram.
+1
The height of rude is to get phone out at the dining table.
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98.9% of Strava users have documented proof they are 'more sensible' that other Strava users.
0.01% of Strava users use it to remind themselves where they've been.
If you don't like it, don't use it. Let those who do like it get on with it. I do like it, and I do like to see where in the scale of ability I lie (well down the scale, as it happens). I do try, on some segments, to improve my time. As does any non-Strava cyclist who does anything resembling 'training' rather than just riding.
That's not the case - you don't need times to train. I only worry about exact times in real races.
Training is about effort level (either perceived, or via power and/or HR) for a particular duration (which doesn't need to be measured to the second!).
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98.9% of Strava users have documented proof they are 'more sensible' that other Strava users.
0.01% of Strava users use it to remind themselves where they've been.
If you don't like it, don't use it. Let those who do like it get on with it. I do like it, and I do like to see where in the scale of ability I lie (well down the scale, as it happens). I do try, on some segments, to improve my time. As does any non-Strava cyclist who does anything resembling 'training' rather than just riding.
That's not the case - you don't need times to train. I only worry about exact times in real races.
Training is about effort level (either perceived, or via power and/or HR) for a particular duration (which doesn't need to be measured to the second!).
Yes, my bad. I succumbed to a fit of grumpiness! Like lots and lots of people, I like Strava. The vast majority of users aren't that competitive - the numbers make it plainly obvious that only a very few are actually quick enough to trouble the KoM/QoM charts - so the comparisons are really only with ourselves and to check whether or not we're improving or deteriorating against the benchmark of those nearest us in the ladder. I find it's good motivation to get out and ride, and to put a bit of effort in rather than just bimble - though there are plenty of occasions when I'm happy to ride at a moderate pace and forget about segments. In fact, there are only one or two segments in my local area that I care about as a measure of my own fitness; all the others are of no more than passing interest. I'm much more interested in where I've been and who else has done something similar, and for that the Flyby and Heatmap features are fascinating. Well, I think so!
Edit: actually, there is one other aspect I like. I do like to boggle at the speeds, times or distances that the really good riders achieve, and ponder just how much faster and fitter than mere mortals like me they are. Some of them are people I know (including my ex), so it brings another aspect to the experience of using the site.
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It’s the other 1% we’re worried about.
They’ll end up killing themselves or killing someone else chasing a PB on Strava.
People who ride like idiots were riding like idiots before Strava, and will be riding like idiots long after it's gone.
I'd like to think that I've proven that wrong. One particular commute, where the light sequence was just right for a new PB and I was hammering like mad on a section with a 2-way bike path. I had to overtake one guy and a lady was coming opposite direction at just the wrong timing, but I went for it anyway and saw the lady's look of fear as I threw myself into a gap where I could only just fit.
I realized that I was riding like a complete knob and deleted Strava of my phone and started actually enjoying my commute.
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The vast majority of users aren't that competitive - the numbers make it plainly obvious that only a very few are actually quick enough to trouble the KoM/QoM charts - so the comparisons are really only with ourselves and to check whether or not we're improving or deteriorating against the benchmark of those nearest us in the ladder.
KOM charts, yes - the QOM charts are much easier to trouble, because there just aren't that many women on Strava.
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Ah, Phanta, you haven't had the Women's Tour through your area. They crisis-crossed our local roads last year and thoroughly demolished both the men's and women's times. They'll be back this year to clean up the few they missed, excepting the roads that the TdF blitzed through in July! There's not much left for the keen club riders to fight over, male or female, at least on the faster roads.
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Ah, Phanta, you haven't had the Women's Tour through your area.
Neither have I, and thanks to the proximity of Birmingham, it's unlikely to challenge the couple I hold that actually count for something (that is, R17 descents, rather than being the only woman stupid enough to do a particular section of COR, which seems to be how I achieve most of them).
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I'm now collecting kudos on the ride between here and Mordor Central (and awesome 4.5km of mostly flat). I've got some fettling to do, so might log a 0.5km test ride later. I'm sure they'll be all over that.... :facepalm:
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I logged an (aborted!) ride of 0.8 miles last week and got kudos from various people. Well, it did have a whole 7 feet of climbing! :facepalm:
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Test ride has acquired kudos as predicted, but since the test was successful it got extended to 8.6km
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Are you sure its not 'canned laughter' from some Strava virtual members?
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I turned on the strava app on my phone briefly yesterday to record my position as I was in a city (Ankang) I had no idea where it was so I could check it later on a map. I also used it in a taxi in Beijing last week, to record the route to a tat market so I could walk back to the hotel more easily without getting lost. In both cases I received kudos before I could flip the private switch.
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The Flyby function is interesting to check who I've been meeting on the road (chatting with for a while during my ride).
Also after the horrific Rando Imperator to see how many others DNF'd (usually long before I did) so I felt less bad about my DNF.
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So for those who do like Strava - is there a YACF club? (Should I create one, if not?)
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There is one.. (rummages)
Here (https://www.strava.com/clubs/yacf)
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Ta! Joined :)
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So for those who do like Strava - is there a YACF club? (Should I create one, if not?)
It's full of people who do stellar mileages! Inspirational or depressing? Your call..!
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So for those who do like Strava - is there a YACF club? (Should I create one, if not?)
It's full of people who do stellar mileages! Inspirational or depressing? Your call..!
Inspirational, for me. Won't ever be as good but if I can narrow the gap then I deserve a slap on the back.
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So for those who do like Strava - is there a YACF club? (Should I create one, if not?)
It's full of people who do stellar mileages! Inspirational or depressing? Your call..!
Inspirational, for me. Won't ever be as good but if I can narrow the gap then I deserve a slap on the back.
Never say never. If the dark forces of Audax get ahold of you (and they will try...), you may soon find yourself doing those aforesaid stellar mileages! Several have been lost to this cult, maybe never to return to sanity and sedentarism.
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There is one.. (rummages)
Here (https://www.strava.com/clubs/yacf)
I joined yesterday via fboab's link and I see that I'm top of last week's leaderboard by the smallest possible margin (887.3 v HK's 887.2)
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So for those who do like Strava - is there a YACF club? (Should I create one, if not?)
It's full of people who do stellar mileages! Inspirational or depressing? Your call..!
Yeah, I never look at it because it's too depressing. People who do more in a week than I do in six months, and stuff like that. :-\
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Just wait for a certain week in august.
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Quite like Strava as a record. I don't pay much attention to the 'segmentation' - though did notice tonight that I had an unintentional "PR" of ~45/1400 people on t'leaderboard, on one stretch while taking the rare scenic route home from work. :) Flyby function is pretty good.
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Strava Flyby has usefully solved the mystery of how I did so badly on the York Rally 100 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=85261.msg1880389#msg1880389). It seems that yes, I am just slower than everyone else, and that I wasted far too much time at Malton.
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Strava segments on Garmin: this update has reached me, and although I thought I'd be unmoved, I have to say it was rather entertaining on my ride yesterday - on quiet roads, no traffic and few other cyclists. Getting a count down to the segment, a big 'GO' on the display when I reached the start, and a continual reference to my previous PR to tell me whether I was ahead of it or falling behind. Good fun!
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I'm not impressed with the Android app's use of the 'play' icon to mean "record" and the 'stop' icon to mean "pause".
Was it designed by someone too young to have used a tape recorder?
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That confused me too! It only changed a couple of weeks ago. It used to be proper record and pause icons...
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IIRC it used to be proper record, and stop for pause, with a chequered flag for 'stop'. Maybe there was a proper pause icon before that - I've only recently been using the app.
The idea is presumably that you're optionally playing back a route at the same time as recording your track (I won't suggest that pressing play and record at the same time is the right metaphor here), but if you're using it without any navigation 'play' is just confusing.
Using 'stop' to mean pause is just wrong, IMHO. 'Stop' implies that the next recording will be a separate track.
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Strava segments on Garmin: this update has reached me, and although I thought I'd be unmoved, I have to say it was rather entertaining on my ride yesterday - on quiet roads, no traffic and few other cyclists. Getting a count down to the segment, a big 'GO' on the display when I reached the start, and a continual reference to my previous PR to tell me whether I was ahead of it or falling behind. Good fun!
How does it work for overlapping segments? Does it pick the first one it started?
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Strava segments on Garmin: this update has reached me, and although I thought I'd be unmoved, I have to say it was rather entertaining on my ride yesterday - on quiet roads, no traffic and few other cyclists. Getting a count down to the segment, a big 'GO' on the display when I reached the start, and a continual reference to my previous PR to tell me whether I was ahead of it or falling behind. Good fun!
How does it work for overlapping segments? Does it pick the first one it started?
Um, dunno! It doesn't register all segments, just those you've made favourites, those you've set up goals on, and (if you select the option) a selection of 'popular' ones in your area. I haven't seen any on it that overlap. It will display where they are on the map, if you have that function on your device. I've only done one ride with them active; I was hoping to do another today but ran out of time and motivation. I may do one tomorrow, in which case I'll report further...
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Strava seems to have suddenly switched its maps from Google to OpenStreetMap - or is it just me? I'm confused...
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Looks like it has...
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Yes, I think the main maps changed a last week. I'm not sure about the map style they are using, it all looks rather pale, paths and forest tracks are not very obvious.
Note Strava have been using OSM in various places for a while. eg the routing is based on it (combined with Strava's own data). And you can report routing errors, so people can fix it in OSM.
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Its dead at the moment. Possible AWS outage...
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I'm not much of a strava user. Occasionally use it to check "improvements" to the commute. (Actually, both the morning and evening routes are out of date by 0.2 miles - I might get around to recording the new bits at some time)
Otherwise I only use it if my bike computer isn't working, as happened in Wales the other week. Even then I probably won't up load it unless it's something I want to refer back to.
Anyway, my grumble. The other day I made a comment on one of Steve's rides. I hadn't realised that as a non premium member I could do that.
Bloody hell! All evening I get notifications that someone else has commented. Fuck off. I don't care! Can't find a way to turn them off. Cos I'm a cheapskate member?
Then, all of you send follow requests. Why? You'll not see anything.
I do apologise if I have appeared to have ignored you. I'm not what you think I am. I'm just a bloke what rides a bike. Nothing to see here.
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...Can't find a way to turn them off. ...
Hover cursor over your default /avatar > settings > email notifications - uncheck 'when someone comments...' (I think)
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Yes there is a way. I am going to turn off emails for kudos as well.
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Sorry. That was a bit of a rant, wasn't it?
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Yes there is a way. I am going to turn off emails for kudos as well.
Kudos? I don't get any kudos. Oh hang on, that's because I don't bother with followers. :)
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I turned all the notifications off a long time ago. Especially those annoying "you lost your QOM" ones. :demon:
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I imagine Steve has it turned off with over 1000 kudos every day. Because uploaded a ride per stage of PBP I got around 100 emails about it. :facepalm:
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I've stopped using it on the basis I couldn't stop it sucking power from my phone. No patience with apps that don't make it easy to control when they run.
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Yes there is a way. I am going to turn off emails for kudos as well.
Kudos? I don't get any kudos. Oh hang on, that's because I don't bother with followers. :)
*tapity-tap*
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;D
GIT!
;D
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Basil, Basil, he’s Brum’s main man.
We follow him whener’ we can.
We try to stay, but we cannot last,
Cus ‘Main man’ Basil’s too damned fast.
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Do you log your commutes on Strava? If so do you mark them private to prevent those 'following' seeing all these rides on the 'dashboard'? Mine have been public, but am doing a fair bit more commuting by bike these days.
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If you make your commutes private, they won't count towards segments or challenges. I'm not too bothered about segments, but I think it is interesting to track monthly distances etc, so worth logging all of my rides, and setting them as public.
You can tag your rides as "Commute". And it has been suggested that this could allow filtering out of the activity feed. But it seems this is not possible currently. eg see https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/27349234-What-does-the-commute-button-actually-do-
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You can tag your rides as "Commute". And it has been suggested that this could allow filtering out of the activity feed. But it seems this is not possible currently. eg see https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/27349234-What-does-the-commute-button-actually-do-
It's a glaring omission, along with the ability to apply a luggage fudge factor (maybe a simple tickybox, but perhaps a field where you can add a weight so the estimated power figures take this into account would be better). I know Strava's very race/fitness oriented, but surely many of us use bikes for transport, or tour with a load - at least some of the time.
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I don't commute, but if I did I'd log them. Seeing other people's daily 2-mile commutes in my dashboard feed isn't particularly interesting, but miles are miles and they all count. I have been known to log stupidly short utility rides, anyway, on the rare occasions that I (a) take a bike, and (b) remember the Garmin.
Agree with Kim that it would be good to have the ability to add luggage weight.
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I don't log utility rides on Strava. I tend not to have any tracking on, and it's not My Definitive Record of stuff.
Depends what you use Strava for, doesn't it?
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You can tag your rides as "Commute". And it has been suggested that this could allow filtering out of the activity feed. But it seems this is not possible currently. eg see https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/27349234-What-does-the-commute-button-actually-do-
It's a glaring omission, along with the ability to apply a luggage fudge factor (maybe a simple tickybox, but perhaps a field where you can add a weight so the estimated power figures take this into account would be better). I know Strava's very race/fitness oriented, but surely many of us use bikes for transport, or tour with a load - at least some of the time.
Yes, the only thing I can see that the "commute" tag does, is to allow one to exclude commutes from the "Activity Log" i.e. the lollipop calendar graphic - though not hugely useful & it doesn't even seem to work properly anyway (as when I 'exclude' - quite a few "commutes" still remain). I notice marking commutes as private also removes the tot commuting distance from publicly viewed data. I do log everything on Strava - except occasional rides on my 'pub bike'.
That thread on the Strava help centre re. 'commute tagging' has been active for ~18mths - seems like the Strava coding wheels turn rather slowly...
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Looks like there are some speedy riders around Bristol at the moment :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0kYxF0O51IE/Vnq3PWW2KHI/AAAAAAAAelw/WiCdoV5PwiM/s640-Ic42/strava.jpg)
Poor segment definition?
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Looks like there are some speedy riders around Bristol at the moment :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0kYxF0O51IE/Vnq3PWW2KHI/AAAAAAAAelw/WiCdoV5PwiM/s640-Ic42/strava.jpg)
Poor segment definition?
Nah, we've just moved on from cars to using light aircraft to cheat. Wait until someone gets hold of.an English Electric Lightning - that'll set some impressive KOMs on full reheat, blow the rest away I reckon.
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Nah, we've just moved on from cars to using light aircraft to cheat. Wait until someone gets hold of.an English Electric Lightning - that'll set some impressive KOMs on full reheat, blow the rest away I reckon.
Well, that would be appropriate, given that the location is adjacent to the River Avon and the Lightning used 2x R-R Avon engines
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I have become involved in the comedy which is Strava. This is after I started following Kajsa Tylen's effort. I had been watching Kurt & Steve as well, but Kajsa has as a specific aim the involvement of others, which seems very laudable.
I am disappointed. It is telling me that I have set a number of "Personal Records" over "segments" but also that there are lots of people who have managed to complete those segments more slowly than I have. For example, there is a "segment" called "MARCUS'S MEMORIAL MUMBAI MILE" on which my place is 2327 /2864.
How can there be 500 people in Southend who take sufficient interest to put their rides on Strava but who are slower than I am?
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Traffic jams?
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Pub stop?
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If it's along the front, people probably get distracted by the seaside attractions, and stop for varying lengths of time... I ignore most of the Strava segments I happen to ride...
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Segments are only usually interesting when they've got particularly apt names, or when you get improbable achievements on them. Very occasionally someone makes the route of an organised ride into a segment, which can be more interesting.
(Some of my QOMs are more improbable than others. They come into two broad categories: Bat-out-of-hell recumbent descending and being the only woman stupid enough to have attempted to cycle a particular COR section.)
Strava really needs a Wowbagging award for being slowest over a given segment, though. The Dufton weekend demonstrated that.
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Pub stop?
Exactly. Just had a look at my last ride on Strava, and I managed to average 0.3mph on one 0.8 mile segment because the pub is in the middle. ;D
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Hmm. A wowbagging award would really need to attempt to filter that sort of thing out.
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Just checked, and someone else has averaged 0.1mph. Damn.
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Pub stop?
My 'best' time up the 0.5km Weatheroak Hill (of which Basil will know) is 2:39:39 (0.2kmh). I'm quite disappointed now I've ridden up it more than 10 times when the distraction was closed and my truly better efforts have dropped off the bottom of the list.
On another nearby segment I was amazed to see my PB was much better than someone who I know to be rather fast. I guess he only went up that lane (now unmaintained and little used having been replaced by a newer road many years ago) for a discrete hedge stop.
I avoided Strava for so long, in the misplaced belief that it would be full of knobs who are only interested in going faster / further than anybody else. How wrong I was, great fun!
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Pub stop?
My 'best' time up the 0.5km Weatheroak Hill (of which Basil will know) is 2:39:39 (0.2kmh).
A mere 1:44:35 for me. I'm an amateur, though, as I don't do the "Bah! That climb's a bastard, let's have another pint instead" thing.
It gets weirder. My Strava PR was set on the Brompton, presumably when I was doing the "Will this gearing get me up Weatheroak Hill?" test.
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The hill's actually most welcome immediately having left the warmth of the log fire near the bottom of the hill on a cold night.
Getting back to Wow's dismay, my point is not even the most competitive of types are out to beast every segment every time. They may sometimes be taking a rest between efforts, going for a gentle social ride with a slower friend, wobbling back from the pub or stopping for a pee.
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The hill's actually most welcome immediately having left the warmth of the log fire near the bottom of the hill on a cold night.
Sorry Saturn. But you're just a bit weird. ;)
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The hill's actually most welcome immediately 10 minutes after having left the warmth of the log fire near the bottom of the hill on a cold night, as your riding companions have taken so long to faff with their bikes before you can get going.
FTFY
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Sorry wow ,back I have managed 0.1 km up crimp hill near Windsor park ::-) . OK I was towing the trailer full of Camping kit :)
Not on strava as I am using android device and my Garmin need's to use windows to work apparently .
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There's a Strava app for Android that logs your movements and automagically uploads them at the end of the ride. Easy to use, but obviously requires that the Android be on and receiving GPS for the duration. Handy for short rides and weird non-wheel-based activities.
I upload GPX files from my Garmin (eTrex 30) all the time on my Linux desktop - no Windows required. You just have to ignore all the Garmin Connect rubbish it tries to persuade you to use and go to the "upload file" option on the Strava website. Then you just point it at the GPX file from the mounted Garmin.
Older Garmins that don't mount as a USB storage device will be more awkward - requiring some sort of application to speak the Garmin protocol with them in order to download the track and create a GPX file.
(Uploading a GPX from a usb-storage capable Garmin via a web browser running on an Android device that can do USB OTG is also possible, but a lot of faff, and it's generally easier to wait till you get home and use a proper computer.)
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I prefer to take the detour via Mapsource or Basecamp. In this way I can add a bit of extra security by snipping the last and first bits off so even if the safe zones fail my location is still invisible. Same if I visit a friend's place during a trip. Or sticking a few bits together if I want to upload it as 1 trip but Garmin thinks it's a multidaytrip (like PBP).
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Pub stop?
My 'best' time up the 0.5km Weatheroak Hill (of which Basil will know) is 2:39:39 (0.2kmh).
A mere 1:44:35 for me. I'm an amateur, though, as I don't do the "Bah! That climb's a bastard, let's have another pint instead" thing.
It gets weirder. My Strava PR was set on the Brompton, presumably when I was doing the "Will this gearing get me up Weatheroak Hill?" test.
Weatheroak. A short 12%.
Just enough distance away from Selly Oak for the warm-up to give it full-out.
Try it returning from a day out to the Malverns and The Kettle Sings,,,
Which gives me ideas for October's populaire. :demon:
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I am of course a computer Amateur :-[ .I thought that I had to go to the Garmin site to get the information on to the web before I put it on anything else .in fact isn't the only way to take information off the Garmin edge touring is by using their website ? .
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I am of course a computer Amateur :-[ .I thought that I had to go to the Garmin site to get the information on to the web before I put it on anything else .in fact isn't the only way to take information off the Garmin edge touring is by using their website ? .
No - you can upload manually to Strava, though you can also link your Garmin Connect account to Strava and have them sync automatically.
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I am of course a computer Amateur :-[ .I thought that I had to go to the Garmin site to get the information on to the web before I put it on anything else .in fact isn't the only way to take information off the Garmin edge touring is by using their website ? .
Your Garmin will appear to your PC/Mac as another drive when connected by USB lead, and you can access all the files on it including your rides, which are stored in the 'Activities' folder. These can be uploaded directly to any logging site you wish to use. However, if you use Garmin Connect, it can be set to automatically share your ride information with a selection of sites such as Strava, MyFitnessPal, Endomondo, RideWithGPS etc. etc. The modern Garmins (those that can connect to your phone) will upload their data to Connect via the app on the phone, or on the PC, via Bluetooth or wifi where fitted (eg the Garmin Edge 1000).
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An! Thanks all :thumbsup:, I will experiment :)
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Strava reckons I rode about a thousand miles last year, (not counting the miles that I didn't count), which is way more than I would have thought. I drove five thousand, so really that isn't too bad.
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Looking at strava you are missing most of our Highlands tour so there's quite a bit more distance to add too :)
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Looking at strava you are missing most of our Highlands tour so there's quite a bit more distance to add too :)
How can you even SEE that?! I can't even see my own data in that much detail! ???
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Looking at strava you are missing most of our Highlands tour so there's quite a bit more distance to add too :)
How can you even SEE that?! I can't even see my own data in that much detail! ???
You have to know where to look. If you click on the week by week bar chart on your strava profile it'll show the rides for that week. There is also a calendar view.