Post by: quixoticgeek on 12 April, 2021, 10:38:57 pm
When cycling I tend to get a runny nose. In winter with a strong cross wind it's kinda expected, but I get it year round. It's causing two problems. Wiping my nose on my glove every few minutes results in irritation to the skin around my nose, which is annoying but not the biggest issue. The biggest issue is that I can't easily breathe through my nose while riding along, which means I can't eat while I am riding, can't chew and breathe at the same time. I'm taking an inhaler, which does make breathing easier, but does not stop the nose streaming. I am not aware of having hayfever.
Any ideas what is causing this, and more importantly. How the hell I can stop it? I'd like to be able to eat a mars bar without having to stop...
J
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 12 April, 2021, 10:45:41 pm
Be even more careful than usual nowadays, of course.
Post by: Canardly on 12 April, 2021, 10:50:08 pm
Post by: hellymedic on 12 April, 2021, 11:15:52 pm
I could not breathe through my nose when cycling anyway.
Clothing will help with condensation and might reduce irritation.
Steroid sprays would help for allergy but must be prescribed by a doctor.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 April, 2021, 07:09:20 am
Post by: quixoticgeek on 13 April, 2021, 12:10:39 pm
Sudafed will help dry up runny noses.
Unfortunately not legal in this country. Also a controlled substance when it comes to sports.
J
Post by: zigzag on 13 April, 2021, 12:27:38 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 April, 2021, 12:36:13 pm
As for snot rockets, I think it's not just the snot that people object to, it's the droplets, especially for the people behind you.
Post by: Kim on 13 April, 2021, 12:51:50 pm
A recumbent riding position helps somewhat, in that the snot drains down the back of your throat the way it's designed to, rather than dribbling out of your nostrils and requiring management. Doesn't do anything for the congestion, thobut.
Post by: rafletcher on 13 April, 2021, 03:34:18 pm
I think that this has come up as a topic before now and is fairly common amongst a large minority of cyclists. In the US you can buy an over the counter nasal spray to deal with this but not in the UK and presumably the EU. Hence plenty of tissues.
Ephedrine containing Vicks Sinex was good for stopping runny noses.
Post by: hellymedic on 13 April, 2021, 03:43:50 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 April, 2021, 04:23:53 pm
What about alcohol, tobacco, caffeine and orange juice? ;)I think that this has come up as a topic before now and is fairly common amongst a large minority of cyclists. In the US you can buy an over the counter nasal spray to deal with this but not in the UK and presumably the EU. Hence plenty of tissues.
Ephedrine containing Vicks Sinex was good for stopping runny noses.
Post by: L CC on 13 April, 2021, 04:28:30 pm
Post by: hellymedic on 13 April, 2021, 05:06:39 pm
Tears then go down the nasolacrimal duct...
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 April, 2021, 07:22:56 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 April, 2021, 07:46:26 pm
Lush (yes, evil I know)OT but why is Lush evil? Is it a Scottish thing (cos I think I've heard this attitude before from a former YACFER resident in Edinburgh)? I've also heard other people say they're somewhere on the planet-saving, dolphin-kissing, etc spectrum. Confused. (Never used any in any case)
Post by: L CC on 13 April, 2021, 09:24:30 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/21/ethical-cosmetics-company-lush-accused-of-poor-working-conditions-for-australian-staff
They're cruelty free, but they use some artificial preservatives & synthetic fragrances which are not environmentally neutral. Their packaging is a bit greenwashed.
Post by: quixoticgeek on 13 April, 2021, 09:26:11 pm
Lush: good for planet (ish), bad for employees.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/21/ethical-cosmetics-company-lush-accused-of-poor-working-conditions-for-australian-staff
They're cruelty free, but they use some artificial preservatives & synthetic fragrances which are not environmentally neutral. Their packaging is a bit greenwashed.
And you can smell them from 200m on the highstreet...
J
Post by: L CC on 13 April, 2021, 09:39:23 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 April, 2021, 09:23:02 am
Lush: good for planet (ish), bad for employees."This article is more than 7 months old"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/21/ethical-cosmetics-company-lush-accused-of-poor-working-conditions-for-australian-staff
They're cruelty free, but they use some artificial preservatives & synthetic fragrances which are not environmentally neutral. Their packaging is a bit greenwashed.
The first mention I'm remembering was at least three years ago. So maybe they've been at it for a while!
And (back on topic, maybe) I'm sure some of these things can give you a runny nose.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 April, 2021, 09:25:17 am
Lush: good for planet (ish), bad for employees.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/21/ethical-cosmetics-company-lush-accused-of-poor-working-conditions-for-australian-staff
They're cruelty free, but they use some artificial preservatives & synthetic fragrances which are not environmentally neutral. Their packaging is a bit greenwashed.
Some of that sounds bad, but
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Individually we lift buckets of up to 15kg of powder with no assistance
Erm, what? Since when was 15kg a weight that needed two people. That's a standard bucket of water.
Sounds like the staff need training in how to lift and move without injury.
Anyway, back on topic - I have never been able to shoot snot rockets. I pick my winter gloves partly based on their softness and absorbency . . .
Post by: ian on 14 April, 2021, 09:37:10 am
Who knew that fancy unnecessary boutique soaps were maybe not the environmental panacea. I boycotted the Body Shop ages ago, mostly because they stopped doing tomato shower gel. You heard that right. It was awesome. I want to start every day smelling like a fresh tomato.
Post by: quixoticgeek on 14 April, 2021, 10:26:04 am
Once upon a time, as a lowly student, I had a job that solely consisted of lifting 25kg sheep food blocks off a conveyor belt and onto a nearby pallet until there was 1000 kg, then a fork-lift would come to take it away for wrapping (a far better job), and repeat. I think I topped out at 60-70 pallets in a twelve-hour shift. Australians, of course, are not as strong as Brits.
When I worked in the brewing industry, I regularly measured my days in tons. My record was shifting 11 tons of beer across two 8 hour shifts. I was really starting to go crazy by the end of that one. Lifting 300kg of grain into the hopper, then an hour or so later, digging it all out when it was at about 65°C. Was a great work out.
I was getting quite fit by the end of it, and could easily carry a 30l keg one in each hand (It was better balanced than carrying just one).
But it's bloody stupid. Sure we can lift 25kg blocks of sheep food, or toss around 50kg casks of beer. But we really really shouldn't. The amount of people who injure their backs due to manual handling accidents every year is costing the economy way too much.
It's also worth noting that picking up a 15kg bucket from the floor to the table, is very different, than say picking it up from the table and holding it up at head level to pour into some mixing machinery.
J
Post by: T42 on 14 April, 2021, 10:32:42 am
I think excess tear formation from wind on the eyes IS a thing.
Tears then go down the nasolacrimal duct...
This. Best protection I have found is a helmet with a visor. Not bad against bugs in summer too. The only problem I have with mine is that when I have it tight enough to stop the edge of the visor cutting into my nose it hurts my forehead. Needs Sugru.
Post by: quixoticgeek on 14 April, 2021, 10:39:59 am
I think excess tear formation from wind on the eyes IS a thing.
Tears then go down the nasolacrimal duct...
This. Best protection I have found is a helmet with a visor. Not bad against bugs in summer too. The only problem I have with mine is that when I have it tight enough to stop the edge of the visor cutting into my nose it hurts my forehead. Needs Sugru.
I always wear my glasses when cycling, they are not perhaps as fully encompassing as a visor, but they do fit pretty damn snuggly.
J
Post by: ian on 14 April, 2021, 10:59:46 am
Once upon a time, as a lowly student, I had a job that solely consisted of lifting 25kg sheep food blocks off a conveyor belt and onto a nearby pallet until there was 1000 kg, then a fork-lift would come to take it away for wrapping (a far better job), and repeat. I think I topped out at 60-70 pallets in a twelve-hour shift. Australians, of course, are not as strong as Brits.
When I worked in the brewing industry, I regularly measured my days in tons. My record was shifting 11 tons of beer across two 8 hour shifts. I was really starting to go crazy by the end of that one. Lifting 300kg of grain into the hopper, then an hour or so later, digging it all out when it was at about 65°C. Was a great work out.
I was getting quite fit by the end of it, and could easily carry a 30l keg one in each hand (It was better balanced than carrying just one).
But it's bloody stupid. Sure we can lift 25kg blocks of sheep food, or toss around 50kg casks of beer. But we really really shouldn't. The amount of people who injure their backs due to manual handling accidents every year is costing the economy way too much.
It's also worth noting that picking up a 15kg bucket from the floor to the table, is very different, than say picking it up from the table and holding it up at head level to pour into some mixing machinery.
That was sort of my point, I was only moving them from conveyor to pallet, so pick and turn, put down. I wasn't advising it, I'm sure (and I hope) it would be frowned on these days, since I'm sure it would be crippling if you did it for more than a few weeks. That said, there was a bloke and that's all he did and had been doing it for decades. He wasn't renowned as a great thinker. It was mind-numbing and you'd lose track of time in odd ways, sometimes you'd be doing it for hours and you'd ask the time (I was told upfront: don't wear a watch) and find out it was 7.12 am, other times, it would just stop and then you'd realise that it was lunch or time to clock off. The best bit of any day was when the machine broke or got blocked. I assume these days the entire process is automated.
I moved onwards and upwards to be a 'blockage cleaning expert' which meant I went around with a big mallet and hit pipes and on special occasions (once a day) I'd put on a respirator and be lowered on a rope into a silo with a shovel to dig out the bottom. I'm pretty sure that hadn't passed a health and safety audit, but I was a money-hungry student with little commonsense and no wish to go back to the infernal sheep block conveyor. Hitting that one with a hammer was immensely satisfying. It really was the peak of my career in percussive maintenance.
On the night shift, we'd turn all the machines up so we could finish the shift in 8 hours and then go sleep in the warehouse.
But anyway, the story was a bit weak, three entire people had hurt themselves lifting something. Sub-optimal, I'm sure, but not exactly corporate evil.
Post by: hellymedic on 14 April, 2021, 10:06:33 pm