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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #150 on: 11 September, 2020, 04:42:55 pm »
TV's Super D Millar went on record as not being “a cheese person” this afternoon. Can we burn him?
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #151 on: 11 September, 2020, 04:54:24 pm »
That brought back some memories. Puy Mary was a secret control on the 1200 du Massif Central.  A small crowd (about 2 people) unconnected with the ride, cheered me to the control e.g. "Allez John" etc. Odd that they should know my name. They were day trippers who had asked what was going on, and Andreas from Karsruhe who arrived a few minutes before me told them I'd be next. The control was in the car park just before the top and I was so knackered the controller had to push me before I could get going again.

 
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #152 on: 11 September, 2020, 05:11:01 pm »
TV's Super D Millar went on record as not being “a cheese person” this afternoon. Can we burn him?

Fondue.
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #153 on: 11 September, 2020, 05:31:52 pm »
That brought back some memories.
And for me.  I went up that route with touring kit about 4 years ago.  That long steep straight was a killer with no respite after the bend.  Sandwiches in the cafe at the top were pretty awful.

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #154 on: 11 September, 2020, 09:46:41 pm »
TV's Super D Millar went on record as not being “a cheese person” this afternoon. Can we burn him?

With petril.

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #155 on: 11 September, 2020, 11:07:46 pm »
TV's Super D Millar went on record as not being “a cheese person” this afternoon. Can we burn him?

With petril.

No, Cheesoid!
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #156 on: 11 September, 2020, 11:14:16 pm »
"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." ~ Freidrich Neitzsche

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #157 on: 12 September, 2020, 12:15:29 am »
Bardet out with concussion.

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #158 on: 12 September, 2020, 12:48:40 am »
And Mollema from the same crash.  They mentioned it in the highlights but if they did so on the live prog I blinked and missed it, or was looking up the spelling of “Madouas”.
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #159 on: 12 September, 2020, 08:31:07 am »
I can never get this out and of my head when I watch Max Schachmann

https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1301849634432790528?s=19
What on earth am I doing here on this beautiful day?! This is the only life I've got!!

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #161 on: 12 September, 2020, 08:50:27 am »
Going to be an interesting final week. The time gap between the top 9 is only 2 minutes. Next Saturday's hilly TT will be crucial. It looks like itll be Roglic, Podačar*, Bernal podium, but in which order is not clear.

*reminds me of Ricardo Ricco.

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #162 on: 12 September, 2020, 08:52:24 am »
And Mollema from the same crash.  They mentioned it in the highlights but if they did so on the live prog I blinked and missed it, or was looking up the spelling of “Madouas”.

Yeah. French commentator said he could see from the TV monitor that his wrist was broken, so ouch.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bauke-mollema-crashes-out-of-tour-de-france/

Somewhat horrifying the way Bardet was hauled to his feet after an obvious concussion. Tour doc should have hauled him out immediately.  Commentator here mentioned that they have concussion rules in rugby etc. but not in UCI/TdF.
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #163 on: 12 September, 2020, 08:55:17 am »
Going to be an interesting final week. The time gap between the top 9 is only 2 minutes. Next Saturday's hilly TT will be crucial. It looks like itll be Roglic, Podačar*, Bernal podium, but in which order is not clear.

*reminds me of Ricardo Ricco.

In a good way?
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #164 on: 12 September, 2020, 08:58:46 am »
Not in a good way.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #165 on: 12 September, 2020, 08:59:54 am »
It's easier in rugby etc as you can bring on a sub for the time needed to do a head assessment. In cycling if a doctor spends, say, 8 minutes doing an assessment and then decides they are okay the rider has had that stage / race ruined.
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #166 on: 12 September, 2020, 09:29:22 am »
Yup, and if Bardet hadn't been lucky he could have keeled over and died before the finish.  As it was he's sort-of OK with no lesions.
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #167 on: 12 September, 2020, 10:09:18 am »
And Mollema from the same crash.  They mentioned it in the highlights but if they did so on the live prog I blinked and missed it, or was looking up the spelling of “Madouas”.

Yeah. French commentator said he could see from the TV monitor that his wrist was broken, so ouch.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bauke-mollema-crashes-out-of-tour-de-france/

Somewhat horrifying the way Bardet was hauled to his feet after an obvious concussion. Tour doc should have hauled him out immediately.  Commentator here mentioned that they have concussion rules in rugby etc. but not in UCI/TdF.
I thought helmets prevented concussion.   :demon:
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #168 on: 12 September, 2020, 11:33:07 am »
And Mollema from the same crash.  They mentioned it in the highlights but if they did so on the live prog I blinked and missed it, or was looking up the spelling of “Madouas”.

Yeah. French commentator said he could see from the TV monitor that his wrist was broken, so ouch.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bauke-mollema-crashes-out-of-tour-de-france/

Somewhat horrifying the way Bardet was hauled to his feet after an obvious concussion. Tour doc should have hauled him out immediately.  Commentator here mentioned that they have concussion rules in rugby etc. but not in UCI/TdF.

Super D Millar seems to think they DO have rules about concussion – he mentioned it after Ion Izaguirre's crash and subsequent retirement the other day.  Of course Izaguirre isn't a French rider in the top ten :demon:

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #169 on: 12 September, 2020, 01:24:54 pm »
UCI regs. Removed from the race if concussion suspected. If it turns out you're OK, fromage dur, presumably.
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Concussion and return to competition
13.3.061 All those in the presence of a rider and in particular all doctors and paramedical
assistants shall be watchful for riders showing symptoms of concussion.
13.3.062 Concussion is defined as a complex pathophysiological process affecting the brain,
induced by traumatic biomechanical forces. The diagnosis of acute concussion
usually involves the assessment of a range of domains including clinical symptoms,
physical signs, behavior, balance, sleep and cognition.
13.3.063 If any one or more of the following components is seen to be present, a concussion
should be suspected:
1. Symptoms: somatic (e.g. headache), cognitive (e.g. feeling like in a fog)
and/or emotional symptoms (e.g. lability)
2. Physical signs (e.g. loss of consciousness, amnesia)
3. Behavioural changes (e.g. irritability)
4. Cognitive impairment (e.g. slowed reaction times)
5. Sleep disturbance (e.g. drowsiness)
13.3.064 Any rider with a suspected concussion should be immediately removed from the
competition or training and urgently assessed medically.

13.3.065 For appropriate clinical evaluation for suspected concussion, for concussion
management and return to training and competition doctors should refer to the
published guidelines (Consensus statement on concussion in Sport – 4th
International Conference, Zurich 2012) and the Sport Concussion Assessment Tool
3 (SCAT 3) and any update thereof.
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #170 on: 12 September, 2020, 04:52:06 pm »
Yup, and .if Bardet hadn't been lucky he could have keeled over and died before the finish.  As it was he's sort-of OK with no lesions.

FCVO "sort-of OK"...

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1/2: Romain Bardet posted this update on his condition on instagram. "I was far from imagining yesterday afternoon that under the comforting words of @vlavenu my @letourdefrance would abruptly end.
Since then, headaches and nausea have not left me...#TDF2020

2/2: Bardet cont... "The MRI performed this morning confirmed a small hemorrhage from the concussion. With rest for an indefinite period of time, I should quickly recover. Thank you all for your messages."
https://twitter.com/SadhbhOS/status/1304794773212061697
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #171 on: 12 September, 2020, 05:17:10 pm »
Yup, and .if Bardet hadn't been lucky he could have keeled over and died before the finish.  As it was he's sort-of OK with no lesions.

FCVO "sort-of OK"...

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1/2: Romain Bardet posted this update on his condition on instagram. "I was far from imagining yesterday afternoon that under the comforting words of @vlavenu my @letourdefrance would abruptly end.
Since then, headaches and nausea have not left me...#TDF2020

2/2: Bardet cont... "The MRI performed this morning confirmed a small hemorrhage from the concussion. With rest for an indefinite period of time, I should quickly recover. Thank you all for your messages."
https://twitter.com/SadhbhOS/status/1304794773212061697

FCVO "small", "indefinite period" and "quickly".
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #172 on: 12 September, 2020, 05:29:30 pm »
Exactement.
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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #173 on: 12 September, 2020, 11:15:41 pm »
UCI regs. Removed from the race if concussion suspected. If it turns out you're OK, fromage dur, presumably.
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Concussion and return to competition
13.3.061 All those in the presence of a rider and in particular all doctors and paramedical
assistants shall be watchful for riders showing symptoms of concussion.
13.3.062 Concussion is defined as a complex pathophysiological process affecting the brain,
induced by traumatic biomechanical forces. The diagnosis of acute concussion
usually involves the assessment of a range of domains including clinical symptoms,
physical signs, behavior, balance, sleep and cognition.
13.3.063 If any one or more of the following components is seen to be present, a concussion
should be suspected:
1. Symptoms: somatic (e.g. headache), cognitive (e.g. feeling like in a fog)
and/or emotional symptoms (e.g. lability)
2. Physical signs (e.g. loss of consciousness, amnesia)
3. Behavioural changes (e.g. irritability)
4. Cognitive impairment (e.g. slowed reaction times)
5. Sleep disturbance (e.g. drowsiness)
13.3.064 Any rider with a suspected concussion should be immediately removed from the
competition or training and urgently assessed medically.

13.3.065 For appropriate clinical evaluation for suspected concussion, for concussion
management and return to training and competition doctors should refer to the
published guidelines (Consensus statement on concussion in Sport – 4th
International Conference, Zurich 2012) and the Sport Concussion Assessment Tool
3 (SCAT 3) and any update thereof.

For a moment I misread the example
 for symptoms as 'feeling like a frog'

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Re: Tour de France 2020
« Reply #174 on: 13 September, 2020, 10:54:44 am »
Notable replies of British riders in France who when asked their name in order to establish their degree of compost mentis include "the mayor of Mortagne-au-Perche" and "John Major". Geraint Thomas is said to have answered "Chris Froome" aft as a crash.
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et avec John, excellent lecteur de road-book, on s'en est sortis sans erreur