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Title: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 March, 2014, 03:47:02 pm
I don't think we have one of these in here.

Me leg is acting funny. Sometimes it spasms. Sometimes it goes on strike and goes floppy. Always when I'm walking and occasionally in public, which is amusing/embarrassing/'ucking ridiculous. Pick one.

GP decides it might be a problem with my knee. Well, unlikely, I have knees like a bullock (figuratively speaking). More likely my damaged/weak lower back. Never mind, another Physio referral will help anyway.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 March, 2014, 04:04:28 pm
Given the reliability of internet consultation, I offer you the spinal stenosis/spinal claudication hypothesis...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 March, 2014, 04:11:50 pm
Oh, EXCELLENT. I hadn't found that one. Now I have something to get paranoid about. Internet diagnosis is wonderful.

Um a long history of phantom pains down one leg, spasmodic movement, occasional muscle weakness. Oh, and it never occurs when cycling . . .
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 March, 2014, 04:16:13 pm
Internet diagnosis is potentially dangerous; I'd risk it for you, knowing it's worth as much as you paid for it...  ;) ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 March, 2014, 04:19:18 pm
Internet diagnosis is potentially dangerous; I'd risk it for you, knowing it's worth as much as you paid for it...  ;) ;D
Worth every penny! Have a 200% pay rise!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 March, 2014, 04:22:36 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 31 March, 2014, 12:27:23 am
Physio on tues. I'm a member of a Perthes support group. The leader of the group has written the NHS booklet on Perthes.

Seems my troubles are very common in ex-Perthes patients.

Intermittent, but include: leg weakness (including complete collapse), numbness, 'hollow' pain, burning/itching feeling on skin on leg, spasmodic pains and movements.

I also now have 'floating' dizzy spells with muscle tremors over whole body. It's all intermittent (I dug and planted two trees this morning, mowed lawn yesterday without trouble). Only just coped with some supermarket shopping yesterday; floating dizzyness and muscles tremors meant I twice rammed the trolley into innocent immobile objects. No, they weren't slow-moving grannies.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 31 March, 2014, 02:00:56 am
I didn't know that about Perthes!
You learn something every day!
Hope the physio helps.

Shopping online means I trolley-bash nobody and nobody trolley-bashes me! Dizziness in the aisles was an issue when I was still mobile.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 31 March, 2014, 09:25:22 am
I didn't know that about Perthes!
You learn something every day!
What's becoming clear (there are two major studies ongoing atm) is that nobody knows much about Perthes. They don't know why it happens. Preliminary results of a study into the effectiveness of treatments is suggesting that the treatment has little effect on outcome . . . Surgical interventions such as femoral oesteopathy, pinning and assorted scaffolding is as successful as massive reduction in weightbearing movement plus physiotherapy.

I was the recipient of an experimental treatment involving the use of (removable) leg braces that held my legs at nearly 90 degrees to each other, rotating the femoral head out of the socket. It worked pretty damn well.
More standard treatment (now) for my degree of Perthes is to build an internal scaffold holding the femoral head in 'normal' position - then of course more surgery to remove scaffolding. The mother of one girl who had this treatment has just had an artificial hip fitted after the joint broke down - at 22. Shit, I was running half marathons at 35.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 April, 2014, 09:53:05 am
Well - physio assessment yesterday. Very impressively, despite the full waiting room they were running exactly on time.

After 25 min (you get 30), my physio asked if I minded if she consulted a colleague, the senior physio.
   
Off she trots, returning 5min later.

After another 30min, with me feeling like a fool and hypochondriac, he decides I probably don't have a trapped nerve or spinal stenosis, but that the root of the problem is indeed in my hip. That would make sense, since it's not 'normal'. All involved are a bit bemused that I haven't had lots of surgery. It's the second question they ask: "How much surgery have you had?". "None" really throws them.

Conclusion is that there is a deep-seated misfunction in my right hip, causing me to move/walk etc oddly and stressing my lower back, that this has been happening all my life and current problems are the result of accumulated strain.

A lot of tut-tutting over my wooden stick (made during a school trip while I was supervising kids). I have a lovely NHS-issued grey one now, which I need if I'm walking any distance.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 14 May, 2014, 10:50:09 am
I find this article quite interesting, in view of recent events in my world.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27389257

The A&E team did remark about my RHR and "how fit I must be".
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 May, 2014, 12:21:48 pm
I'm surprised they think it is news. The massive drop in blood pressure when ceasing hard exercise has long been known of; if you teach sport (which I used to part-time), then you have to really watch the kids and make sure they cool down properly.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 14 May, 2014, 03:15:16 pm
It's been discussed here previously that extreme endurance is potentially bad for the heart.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: nicknack on 14 May, 2014, 04:25:24 pm
It's been discussed here previously that extreme endurance is potentially bad for the heart.

Taking a heavy saucepan out of the cupboard appears to be bad for mine. I've had to sit down for half an hour.
Angiogram in about 3 weeks followed by ultrasound scan the week after.. I hope they'll find out what the matter is and fix it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 May, 2014, 05:22:04 pm
'twas probably the thought of the washing up after the cooking that did you in.

Hope it is nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: nicknack on 14 May, 2014, 06:52:00 pm
 ;D  I'm sure Mrs n would believe, "I can't manage to do the washing up".

I think I'm past the worrying bit. I'm now just fed up with it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 September, 2014, 12:44:10 pm
Sodding back/leg issues again

Using a stick again. Mild vertigo when lying down is preventing me from sleeping.

I'm 90% sure this is due to MrsC pushing me over when I was part-way through a single-leg squat (one of my physio exercises). She thought it was funny. It tore muscles in my lower back, since they were at their load limit at the time.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hulver on 26 September, 2014, 09:10:44 am
Gouty bastard. Ow ow ow. Two nights in a row woken up at 3am by pain in the ankle, hardly able to walk this morning. Got no good painkillers left, trying to survive on ibuprofen gel and paracetamol.

Ow ow ow. I've never had such bad pain in my life. It's like somebody has taken my foot off, and hammered a big thick nail into the ankle joint up my leg bone, then put my foot back on again. Walking feels like I'm pushing the nail further in.  :'(

The only thing that cheers me up is my beautiful wife pronounces it "goat", and asks me, "how is your goat this morning"  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 02 October, 2014, 09:15:04 am
Rolled my foot playing football last night (I was able to continue playing but it’s got a lot worse overnight).

Trying to decide if I can rule out an avulsion fracture of the 5th metatarsal and just call it a sprain. I strongly suspect I’d have not been able to continue if I’d fractured it. There’s visible redness on the skin on the lateral top surface of my foot. I’ll be having to work from home today as I don’t see riding the motorbike with limited foot movement (for changing gear) as sensible.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 October, 2014, 09:21:16 am
Gouty bastard. Ow ow ow. Two nights in a row woken up at 3am by pain in the ankle, hardly able to walk this morning. Got no good painkillers left, trying to survive on ibuprofen gel and paracetamol.

Ow ow ow. I've never had such bad pain in my life. It's like somebody has taken my foot off, and hammered a big thick nail into the ankle joint up my leg bone, then put my foot back on again. Walking feels like I'm pushing the nail further in.  :'(

The only thing that cheers me up is my beautiful wife pronounces it "goat", and asks me, "how is your goat this morning"  ;D

Much sympathy, Hulver! Your description makes it sound like my rheumatoid arthritis, and gout is indeed closely related to arthritis. Goat might be a well for all I know.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hulver on 02 October, 2014, 09:25:40 am
Much sympathy, Hulver! Your description makes it sound like my rheumatoid arthritis, and gout is indeed closely related to arthritis. Goat might be a well for all I know.

Cheers Wow. If that's what rheumatoid arthritis is like, I hope I never get that. You have my sympathies.

The pain is easing off now. I'm able to walk almost normally unless I stand at an odd angle or something. It's made me very aware of just how bad the surface of many pavements is, when you can't move your foot at odd angles, you really notice uneven surfaces.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 October, 2014, 12:46:20 pm
I have just lost a filling big enough to register on the Weight Loss thread.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LEE on 09 October, 2014, 12:56:52 pm
I went for my weekly after-work walk with my wife on tuesday and my feet didn't hurt.

Just over a year ago I developed Plantar Faciitis and spent a year feeling like I was walking on golf-balls.

My Doctor basically told me it will clear up over time.

Finally I walked an entire hour with no pain and not even any aches. 
It's not gone entirely but it seems like the road to recovery is nearly walked.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 10 October, 2014, 08:31:33 am
Just registered for an beginners / intermediates Yoga class!   :)  First class will be on Monday 13th October, should be interesting, as at the moment, I can hardly touch my toes!   :facepalm:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 October, 2014, 08:49:14 am
I have never been able to touch my toes without bending my knees, even when I was at primary school.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 10 October, 2014, 09:17:42 am
Cyclists' hamstrings get shorter (or summat like that) so it's more difficult for us.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 13 October, 2014, 05:26:11 pm
Well, Yoga class tonight! No doubt i'll probably be the  stiffest unbendiest in the class!   :-[
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mattc on 13 October, 2014, 05:37:21 pm
Cyclists' hamstrings get shorter (or summat like that) so it's more difficult for us.
That is certainly reported frequently.

No problem here. My reach is better than 20 years ago, despite the bike being my main exercise for about 8 years.

I suspect stretching almost every day helps a lot.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 13 October, 2014, 06:03:51 pm
Well, Yoga class tonight! No doubt i'll probably be the  stiffest unbendiest in the class!   :-[
good luck! I've been failing to get myself to one for the past three weeks. Hopefully I'll manage it tomorrow. What sort of yoga will you be doing?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 13 October, 2014, 08:30:10 pm
Now the winter is setting in I figured I needed some non-cycling shenanigans to compensate for the lack of miles en velo. My fun of choice is ultimate frisbee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_(sport)), and tonight was my first time back since at least the spring, if not last year.

...My $DEITY, I'm knackered. While a summer on the bike has improved my cardio, I am still way too unfit for this lark - although there were comments of "woah, he's still running" and that I wasn't dying quite so noisly or as often as before. And my feet hurt, now they've actually had to do some work. And my legs are stiffer than anything.

Oh, and I took a disc to the face so I'll probably be going to work tomorrow with a fat lip. [/grumble]
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 14 October, 2014, 01:05:52 am
Well, Yoga class tonight! No doubt i'll probably be the  stiffest unbendiest in the class!   :-[
good luck! I've been failing to get myself to one for the past three weeks. Hopefully I'll manage it tomorrow. What sort of yoga will you be doing?

Maybe this kind:

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/2597736393.html
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 14 October, 2014, 07:11:47 pm
good luck! I've been failing to get myself to one for the past three weeks. Hopefully I'll manage it tomorrow. What sort of yoga will you be doing?

First class went well. This week and next week is a mixed ability class due to it being the october mid term holidays.  We did various poses including sun salutations and Core Strength Vinyasa style. Yoga teacher thinks I should be OK to go into the intermediate class, rather than the complete beginners class. 

Really felt the benefit today, I felt like my muscles were all floaty rather than my usual stiff and creaky self!   :) 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 14 October, 2014, 08:44:08 pm
Well done Brian. You inspired me to go tonight. It's mindfulness/hatha yoga and involved breathing exercises and meditation. I enjoyed it. Some of the poses were tough, though! Looking forward to improving.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 14 October, 2014, 09:05:04 pm
Well done Brian. You inspired me to go tonight. It's mindfulness/hatha yoga and involved breathing exercises and meditation. I enjoyed it. Some of the poses were tough, though! Looking forward to improving.

Good!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si_Co on 15 October, 2014, 10:01:13 am
I can still get my feet round the back of my neck, although not both at the same time anymore , <recalls getting stuck in the cinema like this>  :-[
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 15 October, 2014, 06:45:32 pm
My back is killing me today. This happened the last time I tried yoga. I took it easy, too, on the advice of the teacher, missing out the harder poses and using blocks. I think I have a more structural lower back problem. Bother.  >:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 20 October, 2014, 05:34:40 pm
Well done Brian. You inspired me to go tonight. It's mindfulness/hatha yoga and involved breathing exercises and meditation. I enjoyed it. Some of the poses were tough, though! Looking forward to improving.

My back is killing me today. This happened the last time I tried yoga. I took it easy, too, on the advice of the teacher, missing out the harder poses and using blocks. I think I have a more structural lower back problem. Bother.  >:(

Sorry!   :-[  Hope your back is better now!

Anyway, looking forward to my yoga tonight!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ferret on 21 October, 2014, 12:10:14 pm
I've got bloody ringworm, on my foot!!!?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 October, 2014, 01:45:12 pm
Tinea, tinea, whyfor art though tinea?
Be glad it's not tænia! Then tour ringworm would be a tapeworm!

Tinea pedis = 'athletes' foot'
Tinea unguium = manky fungal nails
Tinea corporis = ringworm
Tinea cruris = dhobi or jock itch

Tænia solium = pork tapeworm.

Canesten/clotrimazole is pretty good for fungal skin trouble but won't touch the nails.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 21 October, 2014, 07:23:56 pm
A few days ago, I did a rather good job of cutting my left index finger, whilst preparing dinner.

It's healing - but it's at that "Hot and Red" stage which makes you wonder if it's just the healing in overdrive, or it's getting infected.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ferret on 21 October, 2014, 08:00:12 pm
athletes foot sounds healthier than ringworm ?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 October, 2014, 08:07:36 pm
athletes foot sounds healthier than ringworm ?

Purely semantics.
Scaly skin by any common name is just as itchy!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 23 October, 2014, 08:45:19 pm
I put a plate of food on the table, turned and . . . tore a ligament or something similar in my back.

Only just able to walk now.  Effing ridiculous. I used to have the reputation of being indestructible, knicknamed 'wolverine' for my  apparent ability to instantly heal from impacts etc. If I fell off something, I bounced.

Now serving dinner is beyond me.  :-[
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 October, 2014, 10:08:27 am
Followed by a full-on IBS attack at 2am.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 24 October, 2014, 11:14:25 am
Not good mrcharly.

I got up at 6.15am to go to the 7am* spinning class at the gym. Then I did some weights (squats, leg press, leg curl). New PBs for all three. Then 5km on the rowing machine, back home for breakfast and a shower, and then into work.

Going to visit a climbing wall this lunchtime.

* My plan to make myself get up for an early gym session by booking a class worked.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 October, 2014, 11:25:47 am
How dare you bit so fit, you cycling *****!
(joking, enviously)

I do wonder if the back twizzle brought on IBS. I don't normally get full IBS spasms, not like last night. I have a known issue with my very lower spine that causes nerve 'crimping' with odd associated problems.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 24 October, 2014, 12:06:02 pm
I've just been reading an article that refers to a study done in 1960 where three sets of lab rats were fed a variety of diets. The first (control) set were fed normal lab rat food and water, the second set were fed cornflakes and water and the third set were fed the boxes that the second set's cornflakes came in, plus water.

The control set lived a year. The rats eating the cornflakes died in a couple of weeks, but rather crucially, they died before the rats eating the cardboard boxes  :o.

The (rather sweeping) conclusion drawn from this - there's more nutrition in the cardboard box cornflakes come in, than the cornflakes themselves.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 October, 2014, 01:45:12 pm
I've just been reading an article that refers to a study done in 1960 where three sets of lab rats were fed a variety of diets. The first (control) set were fed normal lab rat food and water, the second set were fed cornflakes and water and the third set were fed the boxes that the second set's cornflakes came in, plus water.

The control set lived a year. The rats eating the cornflakes died in a couple of weeks, but rather crucially, they died before the rats eating the cardboard boxes  :o.

The (rather sweeping) conclusion drawn from this - there's more nutrition in the cardboard box cornflakes come in, than the cornflakes themselves.

My Mummy has always maintained this to me. I don't know if she read the study.
My cornflakes are only supplied in a plastic bag; I would not recommend eating that...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 October, 2014, 02:02:31 pm
Corn flakes used to be in waxed paper bags within their box.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2014, 02:03:25 pm
"The (rather sweeping) conclusion drawn from this - there's more nutrition in the cardboard box cornflakes come in, than the cornflakes themselves."

For a rat.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 October, 2014, 02:04:31 pm
Corn flakes used to be in waxed paper bags within their box.

I'm old enough to remember that but plastic bags don't taste the same!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 24 October, 2014, 02:16:38 pm
Bouldering. Did that.

Another spinning class booked for 9am tomorrow to make me get up and go to the gym early.

I'm looking forwards to a rest day on Sunday.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 25 October, 2014, 05:12:10 pm
Didn’t feel great last night so decided to cancel spinning booking.

Woke up this morning feeling worse - lurgy has jumped from Feline to me, I think.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 30 October, 2014, 04:58:45 pm
Lurgy confirmed, I was worst on Monday but it cleared overnight so I was ok on Tuesday, but took it easy to be sure.

Yesterday I was back on it: 57 mile round trip cycling to/from work and to the pub meetup in Bristol. Today, so far an hour football at lunchtime, I will buy some climbing boots on the way home from work, probably go to the gym this evening (chest and abs) and a swim if I've time. Then prepare the bike for the Upper Thames and download the gpx. Tomorrow lunchtime, try out the new climbing boots.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: essexian on 01 November, 2014, 08:17:30 am
I had some blood taken on Tuesday for my normal diabetes test. Nothing abnormal about that apart from it hurt like hell going in: certainly more than normal. However, an hour later I had forgotten about it and went about my daily life.

Anyway, yesterday morning first thing I noticed a really sharp stabbing pain along the blood vessel involved in the test. There is no bruising, discolouration or lumps or anything, just a pain when I reach out with that arm.

It’s been like this now for two days. Most strange. Not had this before.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 November, 2014, 01:49:50 pm
I'm off work again today.

Went to bed tired, normal time. Woke up more tired, with vertigo/dizzyness - couldn't walk down the corridor without bouncing off the walls.

This is looking increasingly like Menieres and I'm appalled and surprised by how exhausted it makes me. I could previously have got by well on 6hrs sleep per night. That is no longer enough. I would previously have woken by 6:30am regardless of an alarm going off. Now, without an alarm, I can sleep to 11.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 11 November, 2014, 10:34:59 pm
Ridiculously high calorie meal at Hungry Horse.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30000934

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 11 November, 2014, 11:36:53 pm
Shit, Mr Charly, Menieres is nasty shit.  I sincerely hope it isn't that or any of the other vestibular bollox that people can get.  On the other hand if it is Menieres and they start to treat it then with careful self-care and meds it CAN be less horrible than it sounds like right now. 

Keeping fingers crossed they work out how to nobble whatever it is.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 11 November, 2014, 11:39:37 pm
Ridiculously high calorie meal at Hungry Horse.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30000934

I was going to post about that in the Weight loss discussion thread, then thought it would be better in the Food & Drink section of The Pub.
I can only say this  :sick:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 13 November, 2014, 04:34:05 pm
I have just had a phone call.

Agent Picolax is due to visit next Thursday...

Wish me luck!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 13 November, 2014, 11:11:02 pm
I have just had a phone call.

Agent Picolax is due to visit next Thursday...

Wish me luck!

I had Moviprep rather than Agent P last year. Managed not to leak.

Never trust a fart!

Good luck!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 14 November, 2014, 06:53:39 am
I have just had a phone call.

Agent Picolax is due to visit next Thursday...

Wish me luck!

I had Moviprep rather than Agent P last year. Managed not to leak.

Never trust a fart!

Good luck!

Afterwards my farts were V V smelly, advised to have some live yoghurt,  and stout, these helped after a few days.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 November, 2014, 10:24:30 am
My post-colonoscopy farts were noisy and explosive.
I had a fair bit of painful griping.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 19 November, 2014, 11:26:13 am
Yesterday I was walking to work and my retainer was rattling about in my mouth, so I removed it and spent the day without it.

I put it back in when I got home last night, and it still felt loose.

I went to bed, to sleep, waking to find I didn't have my retainer in.  I eventually found it on my pillow.  I think I may have reached the point where I don't need it!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: dave r on 22 November, 2014, 05:35:55 pm
Planned, and was looking forward to, a busy but enjoyable weekend, been brought to a shuddering halt by a back problem, can't even drive, putting in the clutch hurts too much, today instead of being out enjoying myself I've spent much of the day in front of the TV. :( :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 25 November, 2014, 05:10:15 pm
Don't forget to take your heart rate monitor strap to spinning class, or you'll suffer for lack of pacing.  :hand:

Also don't expect to match your bench press PB immediately afterwards.  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 25 November, 2014, 05:53:44 pm
I haven't been bothering with a HRM in spin classes lately - I didn't like seeing how high it was all the time!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 25 November, 2014, 06:20:08 pm
Reckon I hit about 98% of my HRmax on Monday last week... is that a lot?

(220-age would say 105%. I'm going by the 193 I hit in a VO2max test in 2009, and assuming it's dropped a little since then, to around 190).



Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 26 November, 2014, 10:04:03 am
Shivery, scratchy throat, scratchy eyes, runny nose, can't get warm. Not well enough to be able to concentrate on work, not ill enough to be at home. Awesome.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 November, 2014, 11:14:11 am
If I lie down, my head feels like it is going to explode. Not painful at all, just pressure.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 30 November, 2014, 08:06:00 pm
Fscking big toes,foostie toenails and foostie nail beds!

Had ingrowing toe nail on big toe for a wee while now.  Also got a bit bruised, and was in the process of coming off, so with a little encouragement last week....

Anyway, fast forward to a couple of days ago, big toe started to get rather foostie, funky and smelly, green discharge on diy dressings
Got really hot and funky this afternoon, so a fun visit to minor injuries unit this evening. Now cleaned up, with iodine dressing and a weeks supply of penicillin!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/15914446081_02c3a7a8c1.jpg)

 :demon:  :sick:

Should be fun trying to work tomorrow!

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 November, 2014, 08:59:01 pm
I suggest getting yourself some iodine as well and in future dobbing a bit on anything that looks red and inflamed. It's amazingly good.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 01 December, 2014, 01:09:45 am
Having a F;are Up Period with teh Menieres and managed to get up from the bed this morning. Unfortunately the head didn't manage to stop getting up and carried on until the Conveniently placed wardrobe door interacted with the head and the floor in a "Coming together unexpectedly stylee"
Cant use two  wheels and can't use the recumbent trike with leaning backwards. And on the 8th Day God did create the Longstaff trike conversion and saw that it was good. And, upon seeing it was good,God did say "Let there be beards,  breeches and stockings".
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 02 December, 2014, 05:53:12 pm
Toe is still sore, and still discharging teh green   :o
Luckily day off tomorrow, and getting dressing changed with practice nurse at doc surgery.

Fingers crossed Aunt Biotics will work (flucloxacillin)

-- edited to add --

And the flucloxacillin seems to be making my bum discharge teh brown, type 6 according to the Bristol Stool Chart.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 December, 2014, 05:59:42 pm
Toe is still sore, and still discharging teh green   :o
Luckily day off tomorrow, and getting dressing changed with practice nurse at doc surgery.

Fingers crossed Aunt Biotics will work (flucloxacillin)

Get Well Soon!

Frequent cleaning and dressing change is often at least as important as antibiotics in getting this thing to heal quickly.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 03 December, 2014, 06:58:50 pm
Nurse said toe is looking good. Nice new dressing applied, appointment booked for friday & monday  at  9am for dressing change. Fingers crossed I;ll be able to get the half hour off work for this though...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 06 December, 2014, 05:33:22 am
Toe healing well!  Got dressings to dress toe at home!

 :thumbsup: for antibiotics & iodine dressings!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 07 December, 2014, 07:51:31 am
Sacroiliac popped again after a couple of awkward moments last weekend, then Inlaw Paw (97) fell over in bedroom during week and had to be hauled up again.  Add to that my buggered ankle cartilage sending fall-over-you-bastard stabs up my leg when I step unwarily and you have one bloody unhappy camper.

I could get out for a ride but the prospect of buggering up my back even more is not attractive. Bah.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 10 December, 2014, 11:27:13 am
Having switched to a 6.5 mile cycle commute I am now feeling my calves tightening, particularly in the back of my left knee / top of calf area. Put simply I don't warm up or cool down as the route, bike (fixie) and my inclination to hurry (difficulty getting out of bed)  :-[ results in working hard almost door to door.

Can anyone recommend appropriate calf, hamstring and hip flexor stretches or other measures I should be doing and should these be done before/after/both the ride. Ideally I would like something that can be kept to a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 10 December, 2014, 12:38:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G5XUnrLCdw
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 10 December, 2014, 04:29:59 pm
I've got plantar fasciitis  :(


This definitely fits in the 'Annoying Medical Issue' section of the Venn diagram.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: SlowCoach on 10 December, 2014, 04:51:20 pm
I've got plantar fasciitis  :(


This definitely fits in the 'Annoying Medical Issue' section of the Venn diagram.

Commiserations. My better half suffers from this, so consequently I suffer too (it's damn near impossible to be able to adopt the correct level of sympathy - I'm invariably in trouble for either ignoring her pain or being too damned conciliatory).

She's had steroid injections and uses insoles in her shoes. Shape of footwear appears to be important. It seems to help if there's a small heel to the shoe. I suggest that you carefully test your footwear before going out for that special function. I ended up sitting in the Sheldonian Theatre in Oxford trying to discreetly trim an incorrectly fitting pair of insoles with a penknife during my daughter's graduation ceremony.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 December, 2014, 08:24:04 am
I'm going to be sent for an MRI to look inside my head (date tbd). Is it wrong that I'm fascinated?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 11 December, 2014, 08:31:57 am
Take a CDR and ask if they'll give you the data. You will know someone who can help decode it :D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 16 December, 2014, 08:01:32 am
I lost my fitbit in Barcelona.
I feel naked without it.

And more importantly, Mr Smith is now beating me on steps. Grrr!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 December, 2014, 09:17:08 am
I lost my fitbit in Barcelona.
I feel naked without it.
Is that a song lyric by an ironic 21st century version of Pulp?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 18 December, 2014, 05:26:23 pm
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30494009

Isn't this article just stating the obvious?

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tonyh on 18 December, 2014, 05:53:04 pm
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30494009

Isn't this article just stating the obvious?

Looks like it!
...with added entertainment, though:

"Chemical bonds are broken, a process which releases heat"

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 18 December, 2014, 06:46:27 pm
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30494009

Isn't this article just stating the obvious?

I know! It's very silly.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 December, 2014, 12:16:59 pm
<grumble>

It is a measure of general scientific illiteracy that anyone gives such an article any credence.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Bledlow on 19 December, 2014, 12:27:37 pm
Weeellll . . . . it's sort of right. Food (including fat) in, broken down, carbon from it out as CO2 via lungs. But "Fat breathed out" clearly shows that the author (or subeditors) doesn't understand the process, & there's obvious confusion about what's meant by 'burned off'.

News! When you burn petrol in a car, some of it isn't burned off, but escapes via the exhaust as carbon dioxide!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: SlowCoach on 19 December, 2014, 01:33:21 pm
Well, at least stating the obvious probably isn't harming anyone, unlike Andrew Wakefield's paper in the Lancet linking autism with vaccines. That's killed and continues to kill, despite the fact that  the "evidence" was subsequently shown to be fabricated.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Gattopardo on 20 December, 2014, 11:56:16 pm
Ok this is annoying me, symptoms:

One day may be two of having a very runny nose, occasional shivering with sweating at the same time  this has been on and off for a weak.  Today the shivering and sweating all day along with nausea.  paracetomol and brufen have not altered the fever for over 8 hours..actually final does that stayed in did help.

Other times I am fine, is this normal or am I an alien.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 22 December, 2014, 09:01:58 am
Reserve judgement on exobiological status.

Otherwise, sounds like a virus with a longish reproductive cycle. When it's in your cells you feel OK, when the cells rupture & more viruses + toxins are released you feel like crap. 

Or malaria, of course.

See doc.

---o0o---

Realized yest that numbness in left hand was due to obeying the law and fitting a bell in only space left on bars.  This obliged me to angle my hand slightly and threw pressure that should have been evenly distributed onto outside of palm. Slightly compressed nerve over time ==> damage.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 26 December, 2014, 09:24:01 am
According to the NHS  (http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Cystitis/Pages/Treatment.aspx) there's no evidence that drinking lots of water is an effective treatment.
But they recommend it anyway?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 26 December, 2014, 10:12:08 am
According to the NHS  (http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Cystitis/Pages/Treatment.aspx) there's no evidence that drinking lots of water is an effective treatment.
But they recommend it anyway?

The fact that drinking loads of water really helps flush out your bladder and makes you feel better doesn't count as 'evidence'. 

'Evidence' means enormous cohort studies and double blinding and boring statistical analysis programmes.  Nobody's funding trials into tap water. 

This grumpy post was brought to you by Boxing Day Headache Lurgies inc.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 26 December, 2014, 10:57:19 am
That page contains a link to advice on how to clean your penis properly.

Good.

It should be compulsory reading for men and those who care about them.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/penis-health/Pages/how-to-wash-a-penis.aspx
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 26 December, 2014, 01:47:42 pm
According to the NHS  (http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Cystitis/Pages/Treatment.aspx) there's no evidence that drinking lots of water is an effective treatment.
But they recommend it anyway?

The fact that drinking loads of water really helps flush out your bladder and makes you feel better doesn't count as 'evidence'. 

'Evidence' means enormous cohort studies and double blinding and boring statistical analysis programmes.  Nobody's funding trials into tap water. 

This grumpy post was brought to you by Boxing Day Headache Lurgies inc.

As one who seldom CBA to read or acquire much evidence, and also one who suffered multiple UTIs in the past, I adopted my own strategy (mostly before Evidence Based Medicine became trendy).

Assuming there are times and places where frequent loo trips are a right PITA but others where it's OK, this is what I did.

Find comfortable place close to loo and drinking water source.
Get pint glass and fill it with water or diet squash choose something palatable.
Drink it all.
Refill glass after your next loo visit
Repeat until you have had 4-6 pints in 3-4 hours.

Then drink generously but 'normally'.

My reasoning:
E.Coli bugs (a common cause of UTIs)  can double in number every 20 minutes.
You can wash their numbers down by intense dilution to a level your body can tackle them.

Assume one million bugs per millilitre, a bladder capacity of 300ml and a residual bladder volume of 30ml.

Do the 'math', try to empty your bladder fully and get better soon!

Just pushing fluids blandly may not work because it is too non-specific.
Drinking lots if not peeing can be dangerous.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 26 December, 2014, 02:01:36 pm
My mum a nurse who trained in the late 60s and early 70s was a fan of the strong coffee (diuretic) + 1pt water every 30 min routine to stave off pending UTIs or manage them if you couldn't get to a doctor.  No idea if that actually works other than anecdata.  Certainly in hospital urology wards they like you to drink all the fluids. 

I had a nasty kidney infection (only time my mum's ever called out of hours GP for us kids) and then a few nasty UTIs shortly after in my late teens.  GP was at the "get another UTI and I'm sending you to the hospital" stage when they stopped happening.  I am much more inclined to notice early symptoms and throw fluids at it since then and it could just be luck too. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 26 December, 2014, 05:00:31 pm
That page contains a link to advice on how to clean your penis properly.

Good.

It should be compulsory reading for men and those who care about them.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/penis-health/Pages/how-to-wash-a-penis.aspx

There's a vagina one (http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/vagina-health/Pages/keep-vagina-clean.aspx) too, so that's most popular options covered.  No you don't need Products, but sweat and stale piss is just as unattractive whatever your genital configuration...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 26 December, 2014, 10:14:35 pm
I get cystitis probably two /three /four times a year. I have diverticula in my bladder.
Coffee is a bladder irritant so a definite no.
I'm not convinced that for me drinking more than thirst prompts me to, makes any difference to the frequency / urgency / pain, or to how long it takes to clear.
Sometimes I have symptoms with no causal organisms, and no one wants to take unnecessary antibiotics (because then they'd have thrush, too, or is that just me?), so I'll always give it a couple of days of management before I head to, in this case, the out of hours GP service at the hospital.
That's a fun way to spend time at Christmas. And a rant for elsewhere. The GP expressed surprise that my usual GP didn't have me on permanent low - dose antibiotics, or a repeat prescription for a course of blitzers, to save me bothering them when we all know exactly what's going on. Why indeed.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 26 December, 2014, 10:42:19 pm
Partner bought me new fancy digital scales for Christmas.
He is 175cm tall and weighs around 63kg.

Before he dampened his feet, it told him he was 51.5% fat.
With a BMI OF 21 this is BOLLOX!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 27 December, 2014, 08:39:07 pm
I've got a bizarre knee pain. When I kneel on my right knee I get feeling like a plaster being pulled off under the skin on the lateral side of the knee joint. Depending on how bent the knee is I can vary the pain, it is worst at 80-90 degrees (where 90 deg is kneeling up and 80 deg is dropping towards a kneeling down position). It doesn't hurt at all when I am kneeling down.

What have I done?

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 December, 2014, 10:12:28 am
Clare, I'd say that you have hurt yourself.

IGMC

Um, trying to be helpful I'd say that you have pulled/strained some of the incredible network of ligaments in your knee. Rest, Ibuprofen and GWS.

In other news, I've had my head MRI'd. It was interesting.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 28 December, 2014, 10:18:14 am
Oooh, I had that done years ago, it was very loud. See if you can get a copy of any of the images, the ones where it looks like your eyes are bulging out are brilliant.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 28 December, 2014, 12:49:37 pm
I've got a bizarre knee pain. When I kneel on my right knee I get feeling like a plaster being pulled off under the skin on the lateral side of the knee joint. Depending on how bent the knee is I can vary the pain, it is worst at 80-90 degrees (where 90 deg is kneeling up and 80 deg is dropping towards a kneeling down position). It doesn't hurt at all when I am kneeling down.

What have I done?

Could be your ITB. It runs over the outside of the knee.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 28 December, 2014, 08:38:22 pm
I did wonder about it being ITB related, it doesn't feel like a pull or strain and doesn't affect movement. I can cause the pain by pressing on the protrusion at the head of the tibia or by kneeling.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 03 January, 2015, 08:32:57 am
Hope your knee is doing better, Clare!

Having tried to book an online GP appointment this morning, I've discovered that our surgery no longer offers this (Drat! This was the best thing about it!) and has changed to a system involving telephone triage called GP Access (http://gpaccess.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/The-system-works-only-as-a-whole-v3G.pdf).  I wonder if it will work?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 03 January, 2015, 01:37:45 pm
Having tried to book an online GP appointment this morning, I've discovered that our surgery no longer offers this (Drat! This was the best thing about it!) and has changed to a system involving telephone triage called GP Access (http://gpaccess.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/The-system-works-only-as-a-whole-v3G.pdf).  I wonder if it will work?

Given that a lot of my GP appointments tend to be "your computer needs to see me" and could in principle be done remotely, that's not a terrible idea.

Except that requiring people to use telephones and putting the gatekeeper receptionist back in the loop is a terrible idea.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Notsototalnewbie on 03 January, 2015, 03:20:24 pm
That's reminded me, we need a new GP now we've moved. Looking at the NHS choices website, they *all* seem to have bad reviews, so I may as well pick the closest one and be done with it.

My old GP has actually referred me to herself at KCH as she's also a migraine specialist there, but I've not received a letter yet, probably due to waiting list which she said was a few weeks long. Currently taking two different preventive drugs, plus sumatriptan for when they don't work.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 04 January, 2015, 04:24:50 pm
Stiff lower back after 2nd of January squats at the gym. Thought I’d be ok doing the arms & abs workout yesterday but the barbell curls put a lot of strain on my back, I managed 2 and that was that. Was able to do some triceps exercises and some abs stuff (but not the leg raises) after I’d done it. Not sure I’d have been able to cycle home, luckily I’d been lazy and driven.

Now I’m hobbling around like a cripple and wondering if I’ll be in a fit state to get on the motorbike to ride to work tomorrow. I’m not quite as broken as yesterday, so at least it’s improving.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: CrinklyLion on 05 January, 2015, 11:22:59 am
The crown that the Christmas toffee did for has been re-fixed in place, and the SmallestCub wasn't traumatised by the experience of accompanying me.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mark on 07 January, 2015, 07:24:01 pm
I spent New Year's Eve learning about intestinal intussusceptions and their treatment. If anyone here is advised to get a colonoscopy for screening purposes, do not put it off.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 07 January, 2015, 07:44:50 pm
I spent New Year's Eve learning about intestinal intussusceptions and their treatment. If anyone here is advised to get a colonoscopy for screening purposes, do not put it off.

Been reading BMJ Endgames?  ;)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mark on 07 January, 2015, 08:35:59 pm
I spent New Year's Eve learning about intestinal intussusceptions and their treatment. If anyone here is advised to get a colonoscopy for screening purposes, do not put it off.

Been reading BMJ Endgames?  ;)

No, this was more of an experiential learning thing.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 07 January, 2015, 08:40:56 pm
I spent New Year's Eve learning about intestinal intussusceptions and their treatment. If anyone here is advised to get a colonoscopy for screening purposes, do not put it off.

Been reading BMJ Endgames?  ;)

No, this was more of an experiential learning thing.

ISTR that intusussception was a recent BMJ Endgame.
I suspect educational material sometimes bypasses my brane.
My BMJ log-in has failed recently and probably won't work again until I delete all my cookies, which I don't want to do right now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 07 January, 2015, 08:56:36 pm
My dad had some kind of bowel intussuseption 2 years ago, he was due surgery cos it hadn't resolved but due to faffing he didn't get a final scan for ages and then it suddenly resolved itself days after anyone expected it to... think it took him several weeks to recover properly though.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mark on 07 January, 2015, 09:35:11 pm
Mine was not about to resolve itself, I had a CAT scan of the abdominal area at around 6 PM and was in surgery by 9 PM. That was New Year's Eve, I was released from the hospital with a somewhat shortened colon yesterday.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 07 January, 2015, 11:53:19 pm
Recover well and fast!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mark on 08 January, 2015, 03:53:03 am
Thanks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: essexian on 12 January, 2015, 12:53:46 pm
Just had my diabetic eye screening photos taken….. blimey its bright in here today…… and been told that they have found a small number of haemorrhage. They aren’t in my main field of vision, so aren’t causing me any problems.

This is the first time they have found anything wrong with my eyes. The good news is currently there is no risk to my ability to drive or cycle: they would have to be considerably worse than they are before that happens.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 14 January, 2015, 10:49:04 pm
Finally got to the dentist today for a LOT of work! Included was the extraction of my upper right side back tooth. The dentist told me not to blow my nose for a few days as the Cavity is very near my sinus.
Unfortunately I had a Sneezathon a half hour ago and things are not as they should be.
I can now inhale and exhale through the hole where the tooth was!
slightly surreal!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 January, 2015, 11:02:15 pm
IANAD (obv) but get attention ASAP if there's still air whistling 'twixt nose and mouth tomorrow. You really don't want this to become a permanent 'feature'.

I don't know how these things get 'plugged' but there must be a way.

Heal WELL and fast!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 15 January, 2015, 10:26:03 pm
Thanks Helly. I think it is okay now after a night's sleep. I willkeep it in mind if it does it again at all.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 15 January, 2015, 10:57:06 pm
I did a spin class today. Dear $deity those bikes are uncomfortable. Very strange sensation too, it won't freewheel. Nearly bunnyhopped the thing the first time I tried!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 15 January, 2015, 11:01:29 pm
I did a spin class today. Dear $deity those bikes are uncomfortable. Very strange sensation too, it won't freewheel. Nearly bunnyhopped the thing the first time I tried!

If you are used to riding fixed, it feels completely normal.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 16 January, 2015, 09:47:17 am
I did a spin class today. Dear $deity those bikes are uncomfortable. Very strange sensation too, it won't freewheel. Nearly bunnyhopped the thing the first time I tried!

If you are used to riding fixed, it feels completely normal.

I've never ridden fixed, but that's what I was thinking. As I can't afford n+1, I guess the odd spin class might be a nice way of improving my pedal stroke.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: campagman on 16 January, 2015, 06:47:06 pm
I've been experiencing Gout for the first time since the start of the year, well that's my prognosis. Do I go to the Docs? It's starting to go now so probably will have gone by the time I get my appointment. There is nothing to show him anyway. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 January, 2015, 06:56:22 pm
Prognosis means the way a condition is likely to progress.
Diagnosis means deciding on the name of the condition causing problems.

Gout usually causes severe pain and inflammation in the joint at the base of the big toe.
It is due to deposition of uric acid crystals in the joint.

There are other causes of foot pain.

Gout can be treated, investigated and prevented, if you give medics the chance to do this.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: campagman on 16 January, 2015, 07:17:55 pm
Thanks Helly, I've just read [ur=https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=80098.0l]this[/url] thread. I will book an appointment at the Docs on Mon. The pain I have is not great and has not stopped me doing anything. I thought it was chaffing on one of my big toes at first but then the other one started similar. Seems worse in the morning and there is nothing to see on the toe but it doesn't feel like in the joint either.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 16 January, 2015, 07:54:12 pm
I've never ridden fixed, but that's what I was thinking. As I can't afford n+1, I guess the odd spin class might be a nice way of improving my pedal stroke.

Best way to improve your pedal stroke is to pedal with one leg.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 16 January, 2015, 08:13:03 pm
I've never ridden fixed, but that's what I was thinking. As I can't afford n+1, I guess the odd spin class might be a nice way of improving my pedal stroke.

Best way to improve your pedal stroke is to pedal with one leg.
I had to do that from half way to work and all the way home about 20 years ago.  You tend to change gear a lot.  Mostly down.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: runsoncake on 16 January, 2015, 11:41:56 pm
Thanks Helly, I've just read [ur=https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=80098.0l]this[/url] thread. I will book an appointment at the Docs on Mon. The pain I have is not great and has not stopped me doing anything. I thought it was chaffing on one of my big toes at first but then the other one started similar. Seems worse in the morning and there is nothing to see on the toe but it doesn't feel like in the joint either.

I had gout in my right toe a few years ago, wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy BUT alopurinol shifted the little beast in no time. Had an infection in left big toe a couple of years earlier, ignored it thinking it was bruising MISTAKE took 4 different courses of antibiotics to get shot of it, took months to kill it.
MORAL listen to your tootsies!!!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 22 January, 2015, 08:05:03 pm
The head cold I had at the beginning of the week has lowered itself into a chest cold and set off my asthma. And the use-by date on my inhaler is July 2013.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 January, 2015, 06:23:49 pm
I wish the crud in my lungs would fuck off.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 January, 2015, 06:31:52 pm
Get Well Soon, EG!
TEA can be helpful...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 24 January, 2015, 06:35:57 pm
Having felt ok since yesterday evening I went for a bike ride this afternoon. Up cheddar gorge, left at Charterhouse, left again and down Burrington Combe. Back along the A38 from Langford. I struggled on the Gorge, stomach felt a bit rough at times and I coughed and spluttered a bit too. Not much miles in my legs at present and heavy, and it shows.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 January, 2015, 07:20:29 pm
Get Well Soon, EG!
TEA can be helpful...
In that it makes me vomit and that might force some of the lungcrud out?  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 January, 2015, 07:43:20 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Theophylline is a well-known bronchodilator.
Hot drinks can be helpful.
Seeing as the stuff makes you puke, maybe just go for peppermint or honey & lemon.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 January, 2015, 07:51:36 pm
I might do some steam inhalation later.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 30 January, 2015, 08:41:32 am
Mrs T just brought back some dried mango from the shops. Tastes bloody marvellous.  Any way I can justify this as Audax fodder?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 January, 2015, 10:18:02 am
Mrs T just brought back some dried mango from the shops. Tastes bloody marvellous.  Any way I can justify this as Audax fodder?

Tasty (and pricy) though it is, Audaxers may not appreciate its mild laxative effects.
YMMV...

(and make sure you don't eat the wrong sort of date bars...)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 30 January, 2015, 10:27:46 am
Ah well. Something to pass around the others, then.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 02 February, 2015, 08:20:41 am
Woke just after 3 with a sore throat. Feels like a tonsillitis brewing. Ugh.
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Post by: Chris S on 03 February, 2015, 03:45:05 pm
I am really quite allergic to eggs. It's messy and unpleasant when I get it wrong (lots of vomit, chicken-poxesque rash, general brokenness).

This has proved even more annoying since taking up low-carb eating, because eggs are very much a Good Thing to eat.

So I've been experimenting. I already knew my reaction could be avoided if egg is blended with "a high surface area substrate" (read - flour) - which is probably why I can eat choux buns, cake, pancakes and so on. But I've never done any dose-tests to see just how far I can push it. Until now.

Lunch today - 3 egg omelette with just 1/3rd of a cup of almond flour (plus bacon, and cheese).

The next few hours are going to be tense. I'll be staying near the loo - just in case...  :-X
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Post by: Chris S on 04 February, 2015, 10:47:51 am
Haha!! All was fine. I can haz Eggs!!  :D
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Post by: PeteB99 on 04 February, 2015, 11:26:04 am
Lower back spasm again. Hobbling round like an 80 year old. Deep heat pad applied and industrial painkiller taken. Looks like the bike will stay in the shed for a few days :(
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Post by: Canardly on 04 February, 2015, 11:43:27 am
Chest still sore 21/2 weeks after ice induced off. Hit bars on the way down. Not as bad as it was, but still uncomfortable esp when trying to sleep.
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Post by: mcshroom on 04 February, 2015, 12:05:23 pm
I appear to be coughing up the entire coating of my throat and lungs, but it seems like my body is just mopping up after the weekend's flu. My appetite has returned, I'm not boiling/freezing and I can talk almost normally again :)

Back on the bike for the first time since Friday :)
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Post by: CrinklyLion on 04 February, 2015, 06:40:03 pm
Finally managed to get a Cub to the GP whilst he was obviously wheezy.  GP had a listen and checked peak flow and glanced at history and confirmed that asthma is the most likely explanation.  Ventolin and a follow up at the wheezy-nurse clinic in a few weeks time to review.

EldestCub worked out, as we waited for quite some time to see the GP, that the last time he'd been there was for his jabs.  8 years ago...
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Post by: mcshroom on 05 February, 2015, 06:46:31 pm
The latest move in this bloody bug seems to be to get a gland under my chin to swell up.
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Post by: hellymedic on 05 February, 2015, 08:28:24 pm
The jugulo-digastric node...
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Post by: T42 on 16 February, 2015, 04:33:52 pm
Wandering round in half a haze: the ophthalmologist had a go at my left eye in preparation for next Monday's cataract op.  If a neurologist saw my out-of-sync pupils now he'd have my head in the MRI in three seconds flat.

-----

Did a loop with a chum last Thursday in 1°C and fog. He did 63k, I did 100+. I've been training pretty constantly and was fine afterwards, it was only his 2nd ride of the year.  In the middle of the night he got up to go to the loo, keeled over and bashed his head. Next day he had another episode & went to the doc, who shoved him in hosp for a day's observation. All OK, got sent home. Went to see his doc today so now he's in for a week of tests to find out why he keeled over, inc. scan, blood test and cardiologist.

I feel that it's overkill, that he just overdid it a bit and had a couple of doses of postural hypotension: he felt fine otherwise. Still, an ECG never hurts.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 February, 2015, 01:47:49 pm
I went to the doc in november, I thought I'd damaged my neck. My neck felt 'wrong'.
She thought I had menieres or a tumour.
Those have been ruled out.

Symptoms are now; persistent headache, dizziness, pins and needles down left arm, 'compression/numbness' in face (on left), very, very stiff neck, often absolutely cramped back when I wake, occasional loss of control of limbs, very very disturbing feeling in brain when I lie down, but only in some positions.

If I consult the InternetGoogleHypochondriacDoctor, it tells me I have cervical spondylosis.

I've been in multiple car accidents, one severe. Trampled by horses, run over and fallen off cliffs. On top of that I had a bone disease/disorder that is known to produce spinal problems later in life.

Despite all this, not once have the docs x-rayed my spine.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Andrij on 19 February, 2015, 11:24:02 am
Still not getting out on the bikes as often as I should, but on Monday I shall be starting the 100 press-up and 200 sit-up challenges.  It's going to be a long, hard road.
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Post by: TPMB12 on 20 February, 2015, 09:48:02 am
After getting annoyed with getting up from the floor like an old man (after playing with my young child) I have finally gone to the GP for a check up. They are very judgemental I think if you are male, not old and have a joint problem that has not incapacitated you. I've a history of knee complaints.

Anyway xray today and hopefully an MRI in the next month. Seems the fact my knee keeps locking up (bending back so it locks straight not locking up so I can't move it) and the way it collapses on me for no reason as I walk means there could be a loose body in my knee joint. That soft tissue needs MRI or arthoscopy I believe. So until then I am going to have to keep using chairs and tables to get up and have to be careful gowing down stairs. However one good thing, cycling helps a lot. I thought it would make it worse but after a ride I find there is less pain and that knee collapses on me less.

Anyone know what an MRI is like? I reckon I'll be in feet first but only up to waist so it won't feel claustrophobic for me. I have heard it is not a nice thing with a lot of noise, clicking and the tight space inside the ring. Didn't realise it takes at least 15 minutes, not a fast snap like xrays. Is that right? Anyone else have a MRI done on their legs/knees?? What was it like?
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Post by: Giropaul on 20 February, 2015, 09:57:57 am
After getting annoyed with getting up from the floor like an old man (after playing with my young child) I have finally gone to the GP for a check up. They are very judgemental I think if you are male, not old and have a joint problem that has not incapacitated you. I've a history of knee complaints.

Anyway xray today and hopefully an MRI in the next month. Seems the fact my knee keeps locking up (bending back so it locks straight not locking up so I can't move it) and the way it collapses on me for no reason as I walk means there could be a loose body in my knee joint. That soft tissue needs MRI or arthoscopy I believe. So until then I am going to have to keep using chairs and tables to get up and have to be careful gowing down stairs. However one good thing, cycling helps a lot. I thought it would make it worse but after a ride I find there is less pain and that knee collapses on me less.

Anyone know what an MRI is like? I reckon I'll be in feet first but only up to waist so it won't feel claustrophobic for me. I have heard it is not a nice thing with a lot of noise, clicking and the tight space inside the ring. Didn't realise it takes at least 15 minutes, not a fast snap like xrays. Is that right? Anyone else have a MRI done on their legs/knees?? What was it like?

I've had one (or more) for my shoulder. I'd say it's about like being on a posh and comfortable sun-bed (and a lot less hazardous!)
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Post by: TPMB12 on 20 February, 2015, 11:19:41 am
I've had one (or more) for my shoulder. I'd say it's about like being on a posh and comfortable sun-bed (and a lot less hazardous!)
Thanks for that, like the sunbed analogy. I'll check out my tan lines after I get my leg scanned!!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 February, 2015, 11:47:03 am
For the last two weeks I've been unable to tolerate a contact lens in my right eye; as soon as I put it in my eye starts to water and becomes very red and inflamed. Left eye is fine. Went to the optician today. Cat hair embedded in my eye was removed and all is well now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 February, 2015, 11:50:24 am


Anyone know what an MRI is like? I reckon I'll be in feet first but only up to waist so it won't feel claustrophobic for me. I have heard it is not a nice thing with a lot of noise, clicking and the tight space inside the ring. Didn't realise it takes at least 15 minutes, not a fast snap like xrays. Is that right? Anyone else have a MRI done on their legs/knees?? What was it like?
I had my hip MRId. It's not pleasant, but once they'd rolled me through so my head was sticking out, it was better. I made the mistake of opening my eyes while my head was still inside and I shouldn't have done because it felt claustrophobic enough to be distressing. As soon as my head was out, I was fine. They'll play a CD to you to take your mind off things. I think it took about 20 minutes. It's noisy but it's not sore, and if you don't open your eyes while your head is in the thing, it's just a noisy lie down.
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Post by: TPMB12 on 20 February, 2015, 11:58:55 am
Must admit to not feeling claustrophobia so I don't expect MRI to be an issue apart from the staying still bit. Ants in the pants when someone tells me to keep still. It is like a burning itch to move something. I guess that is because when I can do something I often don't want to but remove the prospect of being able to do it and I want to do it more than ever. Stubborn too, Don't take instructions from medical types too easily.

Still, I'm off for my xray today and expect to be contacted for an MRI appointment in a couple of weeks. Last time I arranged a hospital appointment the admin lass was someone I knew. Hate it when you're not dealing with a stranger, I mean she had access to my health records. We share a few friends and she has a big gob on her too.
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Post by: simonp on 21 February, 2015, 01:38:10 pm
My maximum oxygen consumption is virtually identical to 5 years ago.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Auntie Helen on 24 February, 2015, 09:52:38 am
Bored of the lurgy.

Was confined to bed Thursday and Friday with it, Saturday saw an improvement and Subday I was able to go out for a few hours. But it's Tuesday now and I still need to lie down for half an hour after doing something strenuous (like having a shower) and my appetite isn't back, plus I'm still drinking loads. I wish it would hurry up and completely go!!!
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Post by: T42 on 24 February, 2015, 10:42:26 am
Had a cataract expunged yesterday. Op went very well, improvement is vast. :)  Two weeks off the bike. :(

Gobsmackery dept: hospital coffee was good, and I'm one of those pernickety bastards who measure the beans to the gramme. Amazing.
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Post by: tiermat on 24 February, 2015, 11:39:44 am
Had an MRI yesterday.

Had to drink a whole litre of Manitol in 1/2 hour.  Didn't taste too bad, so wasn't that bothered.

The radiologist did warn me of the after effects of said medication.

They didn't hit me until about midnight last night, but when they did, boy did it get windy!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 25 February, 2015, 08:44:20 am
There's a massive flu outbreak in Germany at the moment which explains my lurgy.
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Post by: Otto on 25 February, 2015, 09:24:26 am
Frightened myself to death last night, thought I was pissing blood, then after a minute or two remembers the packet of Beetroot crisps I had on the train home ::-)
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 February, 2015, 09:35:01 am
Frightened myself to death last night, thought I was pissing blood, then after a minute or two remembers the packet of Beetroot crisps I had on the train home ::-)
Points fingers and laughs

tbh, once you've had a few episodes of pissing blood, you won't mistake the aftereffects of beetroot for blood.

Mostly, when pissing blood your urine is very dark brown, almost blackish, sometimes with small clots.
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Post by: Bledlow on 25 February, 2015, 09:42:18 pm
I had a little accident last week (mentioned elsewhere), which left me with several facial scabs. Most were shallow scrapes & had fallen off by this evening, when most of what was left fell off in the bath.

Unfortunately, the scab which fell off (to my surprise: I thought it was solidly rooted, & it was the only one A&E had taped up last week) the bridge of my nose left behind an oozing hole. I'm not sure what to do about this. Just put a dressing on it? If so, what sort would be best, taking into account that ordinary plasters irritate my skin if left on long? Ask the GP nurse to have a look at it tomorrow?

All advice gratefully received.



PS. I was thinking until I saw that hole that I might get away without any visible scars.  :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 25 February, 2015, 09:47:21 pm
I would leave it exposed.
I don't know if this wound would catch spectacles (or if you wear them) but I can't think of any other serious reason to use a dressing.
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Post by: Bledlow on 25 February, 2015, 10:37:25 pm
Ta. I've covered it for the moment, & I think I'll keep it covered overnight, because of glasses snagging (they've been sitting on the top edge of the scab for almost a week) & the pillow. I'll try uncovering it in the morning.
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Post by: rafletcher on 26 February, 2015, 11:08:57 am
If it need to be covered I would suggest you use micropore tape and non-stick dressing pad such a Melolin.
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Post by: Bledlow on 26 February, 2015, 01:58:25 pm
It seems OK uncovered now. Just have to take a little care with glasses.
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Post by: Auntie Helen on 26 February, 2015, 03:25:13 pm
Lurgy continues - eight days in bed for the flu seems a lot although I am not as bad as I was. But my German friends have persuaded me to consult a doctor tomorrow morning (which I will have to pay for) so that will test my language skills. Also it's no appointment, just turn up and wait - with this huge flu outbreak it could be a long wait!

Interestingly all the German websites on flu say go to the doctor straight away, all the english ones say treat at home. Which I guess ight be something to do with the fact that you pay for your doctor's visits.
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Post by: loadsabikes on 26 February, 2015, 06:59:33 pm
Eight days is above and beyond, get thee to the docs!
GWS Helen.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 February, 2015, 11:48:26 am
Eight days is perfectly normal for bad flu, is it not?
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Post by: Kim on 27 February, 2015, 01:06:59 pm
Eight days is perfectly normal for bad flu, is it not?

Yeah.  Couple of weeks for the flu to subside, and another month for the secondary chest infection.
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Post by: redshift on 27 February, 2015, 01:24:48 pm
...and two years and counting for the post-flu exercise-induced asthma.

Or is that just me?
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Post by: Auntie Helen on 27 February, 2015, 01:44:01 pm
Well I'm still in bed having not visited the docs. I thought flu cam be a two week in bed thing, it always was for my Mum. I fainted in the shower today which is sub-optimal, too much standing up after lying down for a week I guess. Fortunately no harm done as I saw it coming.

If I'm not notably better by Monday I will go to the docs.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 27 February, 2015, 02:19:43 pm
Real flu is horrible; GET WELL SOON!

I'm not sure what a doctor can do for uncomplicated flu, aside from writing a sick note.

It's too early to check there's no other illness causing the symptoms.

I think you'd know if you had a chest infection or other complication.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 27 February, 2015, 02:29:13 pm
I'm not coughing or sneezing at all, fortunately, so hopefully have avoided any additional complications. It's just taking a long time but I have been very touched at how caring my friends here are, and my landlord/landlady. I have just had another food delivery from my landlady, mixed fruit and bananas.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 27 February, 2015, 02:35:36 pm
I'd suggest not taking a standing-up shower without someone around to rescue you.  I gave myself a nasty bang on the head like that while afflicted with the Long Itch Lurgy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 27 February, 2015, 02:37:51 pm
It was my first shower since Tuesday (yikes!) so I can probably go a few more days now.

I'm not sure if I'm on the level of staring a shower with my landlady but I do have a painted wooden chair I could put in there I guess next time!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 27 February, 2015, 03:50:32 pm
Wear a h*lm*t in the shower; you know it makesno sense!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 27 February, 2015, 04:09:05 pm
I have one here, what a great idea! Helps with the hair washing too, no doubt.
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Post by: hellymedic on 27 February, 2015, 04:14:47 pm
Of course! (Says she, who put the word 'no' in 1 point...)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 28 February, 2015, 08:27:07 am
Hallelujah, I think I have turned a corner and am returning to humanity.

I will spend the day in bed anyway not to overdo things, with a bit of walking around to mix it up. I have a week's worth of washing up to do too.
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Post by: Auntie Helen on 02 March, 2015, 02:38:45 pm
Went to the Hausarzt today as I was still feeling feeble this morning and I had the feeling I had a high heart rate.

I took Lara the 18-y-ö daughter of my landlady as translator if necessary (her English is excellent and I wasn't sure how well I would cope).

The interesting thing is that you couldn't make appointments at any of the three surgeries in St Hubert, they just have open surgeries, you are seen in order.

I had three options. A friend had recommended a lady doctor but her website showed she was into homeopathy so I decided against that. The other two doctors are next door to each other.

We found the decent surgery for one doctor and signed in (I showed them my insurance card and they seemed happy). I have a £300 excess so will be paying for all of this out of pocket anyway. There were seven people in the waiting room before me and it took about an hour and a half before I was seen.

The doctor turned out to speak fantastic English so we did all in English. I said about having the flu and feeling my heart rate was high - he checke my blood pressure (90/50, no wonder I fainted in the shower), listened to my lungs (fine), then stuck a widget on my finger which said pulse-ox 99 but heart rate 149 which was a lot as I was sitting down so he sent me for an EKG (in the next room). The nurse did that and then blood pressure and said my blood pressure was 160/100. I said that was almost double what it was ten mins ago so she did it again, 140/100, still high. The doctor came back after 10 mins and said could I return tomorrow for another EKG and some blood tests but it was probably a result of the flu. I told him I do get white coat syndrome too.

Since I got home I have worn my HRM. Sitting on the bed rate is 80-90, sitting on the couch is 115ish, 10 mins of standing to wash up was 175, so clearly standing up is an issue after two weeks in bed.

No idea yet how much this will cost, the bill comes tomorrow. But I was impressed by the doctor and the nurses and I quite like the fact you will get seen, but no appointments can mean a long wait. He told me to come at 8:30am tomorrow when they first open.

I seem to feel better this afternoon which is good!
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Post by: Aunt Maud on 02 March, 2015, 02:48:41 pm
 :o You pay to go and see a doctor.......Thinking about it that might make my doctor visits more successful, as it seems he's trying to kill me.

Visit 1 Tummy ache and a bit of fever......Go straight to hospital do not pass go ......on the slab with the knives out...Shaved pubes...Appendicitis.

Visit 2 Man issues.................................Go straight to hospital do not pass go ......on the slab with the knives out........ 2X blood poisoning.

Visit 3 Sore shoulder from the Bryan Chapman...Go straight to hospital do not pass go.............wait at hospital.........get bored, walk out.

Visit 4 Next day Sore shoulder(repeat)..............Go straight to hospital do not pass go.............get a nice X-ray and smashing blue sling.

Visit 5 Sore neck.............He tries to twist my head off............I call him a name and walk out.

All FOC mind.

Get well soon AH, the flu is a proper git.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 02 March, 2015, 03:32:13 pm
I've been in Germany 11 months and all along the only thing that has worried me about living here is the healthcare system. I mean, it's very good, but it's an unknown and I have to pay. That is so new to me!

But I realised my insurance policy is effectively the same as my late Weimaraner's Pet Plan policy. Pay up first, then they reimburse you, but there's an excess per year of £300 (not 'per condition', fortunately). Being on the German public healthcare system would be better (they settle the bills) but as a freelancer the premiums were 350€ per month. I am paying £111 per month for my private insurance.

If I ever get a proper job in Germany I can get into the public health insurance system that way. If I plan to stay here long term that would be a good move.

Anyway, having found a good doctor I feel much more relaxed about it all now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 02 March, 2015, 04:00:57 pm
I do hope you continue to improve, AH. Flu is truly horrible.

I have a very ouchy thumb after I caught my thumbnail on the kitchen cabinet and about a third of my thumbnail was wrenched away at the side of the nail from its bed. It bled a lot but appears to have  reattached itself in the past couple of days.  The  skin around the area is very painful and swollen, which makes using the keyboard space bar impossible, so I'm hitting it with my index finger instead. I'm not sure whether to put a plaster over the nail, or just leave it as it is. 

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 March, 2015, 04:12:57 pm
Unless you are working in a dirty environment (gardening, for example) leave it uncovered.

Wrenched off nails loads of times.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 March, 2015, 09:13:12 am
Interestingly all the German websites on flu say go to the doctor straight away, all the english ones say treat at home. Which I guess ight be something to do with the fact that you pay for your doctor's visits.
Or a different interpretation of flu? That is, maybe when Germans say flu they really mean flu, not a bad cold?

Insurance: Can't you use an EHIC?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 04 March, 2015, 09:16:01 am
I can't use my EHIC as I am registered as living here.

Feeling much better now. Off in half an hour to get the results of my blood test - I am very nervous as I always am about these things, too many bad memories. And then I will get the bill!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 04 March, 2015, 11:11:39 am
No bill yet as investigations continue.

My blood test was normal except for a liver reading - usually up to 47, mine was 1620ish. He did an ultrasound there and then and my liver looked normal, no tumour or anything, as did my kidneys, but my spleen was slightly enlarged (not entirely surprising after the flu). He thinks it possible my viral infection/flu has walloped my liver so will do another blood test on Monday to compare (after six days) and will also then test for various hepatitis forms although no idea where I would have caught them from.

In the meantime I am to take it easy and not do anything too strenuous. And not drink alcohol, which I never do anyway.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 March, 2015, 12:23:00 pm
Which 'Liver' reading is that?

There are several usually used in liver function tests in the UK.

One of them - Alkaline Phosphatase - can be either bone or liver.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 04 March, 2015, 12:39:59 pm
There were two, both acronyms of three letters, I think one was GG-something. These were in German of course.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ham on 04 March, 2015, 01:30:44 pm
A 'mercan vid about vaccinations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpfNScEd3M

It is actually quite frightening, the impact of the downturn in vaccination uptake  could easily be seen in Mrs Ham's school, measles in particular became far more prevalent. If you know anyone who doesn't or won't, send them this vid.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 March, 2015, 01:33:24 pm
GGT is gamma glutamyl transferase a live enzyme raised by alcohol related damage.
AST is aspartate transferase
ALP is alkaline phosphatase - the bone/liver chap.

I don't think the German editions are much different.

If your bilirubin were off the scale, you might be a FUNNYCOLOUR
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 04 March, 2015, 01:40:07 pm
If your bilirubin were off the scale, you might be a FUNNYCOLOUR

Or your skin might be the normal shade of green and your urine might be fluorescent, but you don't really notice because you're colourblind, dehydrated, sleep deprived and distracted by pain.  DAHIKT.

(I'm now under standing orders to query the colour of suspicious bodily emissions with barakta.  She gets all the fun jobs.)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 04 March, 2015, 01:47:01 pm
I am a normal colour and my pee is normal too (except in the night when it's a bit dark which I took to be dehydration). I had one very light-coloured poop a few days ago that I put down to my poor appetite mucking things up but otherwise normalish. I don't feel sick. I do feel tired though but it's all consistent with post-flu. I hope that this is a reaction to the virus and will be improved next week.

I have a three page form from my health insurer for my doctor to complete. I bet I have to pay for that too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 04 March, 2015, 02:17:13 pm
(I'm now under standing orders to query the colour of suspicious bodily emissions with barakta.  She gets all the fun jobs.)

I'd take that over the week of hell we had with your gallstone any day. It's a reasonable adjustment for your colour-perception, just like you get to poke the headholes (BAHA abutments)...  It's *only* bodily fluids, we both come from families where medical things inc bowels were dinner table discussions :D 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 05 March, 2015, 10:23:43 am
I went to a gym last evening for the first time in a couple of years. She started me off gently - 2 sets of 15 squats!! What happened to sets of 10 or 12? That, coupled with lunges has me hobbling about on jelly legs today  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 March, 2015, 05:52:13 pm
Utterly out of the blue, no warning, massive puking session. Actually 3 of them. Spent most of last night hanging on to the porcelain god.

That was last night. Managed to nibble a single oatcake just now.

Very very sore back from cramping convulsions. Nobody else in the house is ill at all so it must have been something I ate at work.

Of course the puking session meant I lost the cinarrazine I took yesterday, didn't take any last night, today, etc. I'm living on 90mg a day of the stuff atm.

So the giddies are back as well, joy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 05 March, 2015, 06:50:11 pm
Since about mid-December
- no motivation at all to do anything. My usual exercise regime of swimming 3-5 times a week plus 1 session of pilates has been reduced to swimming class once a week (and I think I only struggle to that because I don't have to talk to anyone while I'm there). Apart from class, I've swum it once this year and one session of pilates. I've made it to one of my silver classes and every other Tuesday night I've got home from work and been utterly unable to go out again. I'm spending every weekend in my pyjamas doing nothing, not even cleaning my teeth until bedtime. On Saturday I was really thirsty and it took me 40 minutes to work up the oomph to walk five paces and get a drink of water
- bad thoughts. No thoughts of suicide or self-harm, but constant thoughts about bad things happening to loved ones, like daydreams of awfulness which eventually bring me to tears unless something external gets me out of it, like a phone call or a cat jumping on my head
- really tired all the time, but no changes to my sleep pattern
- joint pain, especially really sore elbows in the morning
- the elbows might be because the 2+ stone I have lost over the past 2 years has all gone back on in the past 3 months and lying on them hurts. Not motivated to cook properly for myself, living on delicious chocolate and biscuits. All I want is sugar
- no desire to socialise at all, just want to be left alone in silence
- all my work paperwork is up to date, for the first time in ever, because I'd rather sit at my desk typing than make phone calls or visits
- all of the things that I should do to combat it all, like exercise and eating healthily, are utterly beyond me
- I can make an effort and put a front up in front of other people, but as soon as I'm on my own I turn into a big schlumping human beanbag. I'm trudging through a sludgy brown world instead of skipping (or at least ambling) through a world of colour

Saw the GP today and agreed that we would do blood tests to check for thyroid problems etc and if that's all normal then we'll start antidepressants. We also agreed that there was no point telling me to eat healthily and do regular exercise, cos I was doing all that when it started, and if I could do it now I wouldn't have gone to the doctor in the first place.
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Post by: barakta on 05 March, 2015, 07:57:26 pm
Sounds utterly rotten EG, glad doc was sensible and hope whatever it is, is nobblable soonest!
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 06 March, 2015, 11:18:01 am
Getting bloods done on Monday. My colleagues, who were endlessly entertained when I was on the strong cocodamol, can't wait to see what I'll be like on antidepressants or thyroxine.
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Post by: rafletcher on 06 March, 2015, 09:21:12 pm
Best of luck EG, the mind can be a treacherous thing  :-\
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Post by: barakta on 06 March, 2015, 09:50:25 pm
They don't let you have interesting amounts of thyroxine, just enough not to be low if you are low iirc.  Watching colleagues intoxicated either on boozahol or opiates is funny though!  Shared office will be interesting come August with our lot.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 07 March, 2015, 06:55:55 am
I am turning very German with my inspecting of the contents of the toilet bowl but I think the colour of my morning poop is slightly improving. I hope this is a sign my liver is repairing itself. Monday is my blood test with results on Tuesday so still a while to wait yet to know for sure. I am taking it easy still and drinking plenty of water.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 08 March, 2015, 06:16:02 pm
Went to a university Jewish Society reunion last night and saw many folk some three decades on.

Almost all were fatter, the slimmest was still slim but seemed to have gained about 10lb in weight and was very shapely. She had been very light in her first year. Two of the men appeared to be about 100% overweight. One of these had been fat-pretty portly but not  really gross, as he was now, as a student. I don't really remember the other.

Those who seemed in best shape had, unsurprisingly, worked on their fitness.

The ravages of Old Father Time...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 09 March, 2015, 09:26:52 am
@Helly: any idea how quickly mitochondrion population in skeletal muscle declines when we break training?  Or in cardiac muscle, come to that, if it does at all?

I just started again after 10 days off for my eye op, and it feels as if I'd done zero km this year.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 March, 2015, 02:33:58 pm
Sorry, no idea!
My own experience is that once my weight and eating were up to near-normal, there was little problem.

I'm surprised an eye operation has had this effect; did you have a general anaesthetic?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 09 March, 2015, 02:58:58 pm
No, but they told me not to get into cold draughts and not to get sweat into it for 10 days, so I was just lying about the house and suffering withdrawal symptoms.

Fascinating procedure, cataract surgery. Everyone should try it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 10 March, 2015, 08:10:52 am
Top tip : Heart Rate Monitors only actually monitor if you attach the transmitter to the chest strap. Otherwise it's just a really bad bra.

There's no need to ask how I know this, is there?
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 10 March, 2015, 09:06:35 am
@Helly: any idea how quickly mitochondrion population in skeletal muscle declines when we break training?  Or in cardiac muscle, come to that, if it does at all?

I just started again after 10 days off for my eye op, and it feels as if I'd done zero km this year.

I read in 'faster' that it's the drop in blood volume when you stop that causes the initial loss of fitness. This returns quite quickly when you start training again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 10 March, 2015, 10:07:42 am
@Helly: any idea how quickly mitochondrion population in skeletal muscle declines when we break training?  Or in cardiac muscle, come to that, if it does at all?

I just started again after 10 days off for my eye op, and it feels as if I'd done zero km this year.

I read in 'faster' that it's the drop in blood volume when you stop that causes the initial loss of fitness. This returns quite quickly when you start training again.

Hum.  "Exercise training-induced hypervolemia appears to be universal among most animal species, although the mechanisms may be quite different. The hypervolemia may provide advantages of greater body fluid for heat dissipation and thermoregulatory stability as well as larger vascular volume and filling pressure for greater cardiac stroke volume and lower heart rates during exercise." - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1798375

I'd view that as just one of the adaptation mechanisms.  But mitochondria are directly involved in intracellular metabolism and their population increases to about 200% of normal with regular training, so that the cells become twice as efficient as untrained cells. When you stop training the population drops towards normal again.  I know that population rebuild is faster than the initial build and, I believe, faster than the loss, but beyond that I have no idea.  Although my cardiologist did tell me not to lay off more than three weeks, so maybe that's the time for the pop to drop to normal.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 10 March, 2015, 11:15:08 am
@Helly: any idea how quickly mitochondrion population in skeletal muscle declines when we break training?  Or in cardiac muscle, come to that, if it does at all?

I just started again after 10 days off for my eye op, and it feels as if I'd done zero km this year.

I read in 'faster' that it's the drop in blood volume when you stop that causes the initial loss of fitness. This returns quite quickly when you start training again.

Hum.  "Exercise training-induced hypervolemia appears to be universal among most animal species, although the mechanisms may be quite different. The hypervolemia may provide advantages of greater body fluid for heat dissipation and thermoregulatory stability as well as larger vascular volume and filling pressure for greater cardiac stroke volume and lower heart rates during exercise." - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1798375

I'd view that as just one of the adaptation mechanisms.  But mitochondria are directly involved in intracellular metabolism and their population increases to about 200% of normal with regular training, so that the cells become twice as efficient as untrained cells. When you stop training the population drops towards normal again.  I know that population rebuild is faster than the initial build and, I believe, faster than the loss, but beyond that I have no idea.  Although my cardiologist did tell me not to lay off more than three weeks, so maybe that's the time for the pop to drop to normal.

Most of the decline in cardiovascular function (which almost all occurs within the first 12 days of detraining) is reversed by simply restoring blood volume with saline. VO2max increases to near trained levels, as does heart rate during submaximal exercise.

Effects of detraining on cardiovascular responses to exercise: role of blood volume
EDWARD F. COYLE, MAR1 K. HEMMERT, AND ANDREW R. COGGAN

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3944049


Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: numbnuts on 10 March, 2015, 05:38:31 pm
I'm just home from a three day stay in hospital having L4/L5 decompression surgery now on the road to recovery, could be off the bike/trike for a while
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 10 March, 2015, 05:45:28 pm
GWS, numnuts!
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 March, 2015, 06:32:14 pm
Hell - that sounds like it will take a while to get over.
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Post by: barakta on 10 March, 2015, 09:20:45 pm
Ouch numbnuts, hope you recover well from that!
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Post by: Ruthie on 10 March, 2015, 09:35:29 pm
I'm just home from a three day stay in hospital having L4/L5 decompression surgery now on the road to recovery, could be off the bike/trike for a while

Here's to a good result from your surgery numbnuts, and a big improvement in the long term.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si_Co on 12 March, 2015, 12:40:48 pm
Well after yesterday's visit to ENT, I have a BIG bag of steroids.
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Post by: Valiant on 15 March, 2015, 11:49:15 pm
I's been diagnosed with pre-diabetes :( I had a hba number of 46/47

Have adjusted my diet accordingly and increased my activity. I'm loosing weight already and feeling less tired etc so I'm hoping I might be going in the right direction to get the all clear. Both my dad and grandad had diabetes so I'm more prone to get it. Of course being a fat git ain't helping.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Peter on 16 March, 2015, 12:29:32 am
Good luck, Sam! (And the rest of you).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 March, 2015, 03:07:13 pm
vitamin D deficiency.

One of the family has been tested as low on this. No, they don't go outside (my suggestion that they do so was met with "Why the fuck would I that, I've got supplements" No, I didn't clobber them with a frying pan of spang)

Reading up on this, it's stated that the sunlight needs to be direct, that incident light through a window isn't enough. Any idea why? Glass blocking some of the spectrum maybe?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 16 March, 2015, 03:15:52 pm
Glass block UV (I think all wavelengths but no doubt other will know better ) quite effectively - you don't tan in a greenhouse, so I suspect that's the reason.

Short sleeves are a good idea if you don't go out much.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 16 March, 2015, 08:54:25 pm
I am so looking forward to seeing my GP on Friday and finding out what is wrong with me. I am so tired. All the time.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 16 March, 2015, 08:57:20 pm
Glass block UV (I think all wavelengths but no doubt other will know better ) quite effectively - you don't tan in a greenhouse, so I suspect that's the reason.

Short sleeves are a good idea if you don't go out much.

Yep, AIUI, UV light is needed. Sun lamps are apparently not a good substitute.

The thing with vitamin d supplements is that you can overdose. Your natural vitamin d production self regulates to avoid this. So natural light is a better option.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 16 March, 2015, 09:17:13 pm
I am so looking forward to seeing my GP on Friday and finding out what is wrong with me. I am so tired. All the time.
Hopefully he has an answer for you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 17 March, 2015, 01:17:43 pm
Work had a bod from Stroke Association in today, giving us a free blood pressure test if we wanted.

Got mine done, 138/89.  Just a smidge below borderline of hypertension according to the bumpf I got given!   :o :o
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 19 March, 2015, 12:43:12 pm
Finally got some of my liver test results back today (but not all - but the doctor's receptionist phoned the lab and asked them to fax whatever they had ready as I am going on holiday on Saturday). All seemed fine, I don't have any dodgy liver viruses.

I'm having the bog standard blood test tomorrow morning and they'll compare it with the one I had two weeks ago which had the really high liver readings and will email me the result. I feel fine and all is normal in the toilet bowl so I am guessing I have got over it.

At least I don't have Hepatitis C which would have been no fun at all.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 19 March, 2015, 03:37:42 pm
Work had a bod from Stroke Association in today, giving us a free blood pressure test if we wanted.

Got mine done, 138/89.  Just a smidge below borderline of hypertension according to the bumpf I got given!   :o :o

A smidge below "high normal" I think that  would be, or "mild" hypertension. In the "practice a healthy lifestyle and check again in a little while" range. That I've been in for at least 20 years  ::-). So less salt, less alcohol, more veg, more exercise for us!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: sojournermike on 19 March, 2015, 05:11:39 pm
Work had a bod from Stroke Association in today, giving us a free blood pressure test if we wanted.

Got mine done, 138/89.  Just a smidge below borderline of hypertension according to the bumpf I got given!   :o :o

A smidge below "high normal" I think that  would be, or "mild" hypertension. In the "practice a healthy lifestyle and check again in a little while" range. That I've been in for at least 20 years  ::-). So less salt, less alcohol, more veg, more exercise for us!  :thumbsup:

I think they may call it pre-hypertensive nowadays. But yes, the prescription seems about right.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 19 March, 2015, 07:33:58 pm
Work had a bod from Stroke Association in today, giving us a free blood pressure test if we wanted.

Got mine done, 138/89.  Just a smidge below borderline of hypertension according to the bumpf I got given!   :o :o

A smidge below "high normal" I think that  would be, or "mild" hypertension. In the "practice a healthy lifestyle and check again in a little while" range. That I've been in for at least 20 years  ::-). So less salt, less alcohol, more veg, more exercise for us!  :thumbsup:

Already get loads of exercise every day in my job patman posting, don't drink alcohol.  WOuldn't say I have a particularly great diet, and I have a bit of a coffee addiction....  and sugar addiction too.  Probably don't drink nearly enough water either...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 March, 2015, 10:39:26 am
My bloods all came back normal, so we've agreed I have depression and started me on sertraline.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 20 March, 2015, 11:02:43 am
Just got my bill for my first basic blood test - 55€. I've had another of these today and a much more involved set of liver function blood tests so I reckon that's 250€ worth in total.

I've gotta say, when you know you are paying for these it concentrates the mind wonderfully!
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Post by: Auntie Helen on 20 March, 2015, 12:20:51 pm
Wow, very quick results from the doctor via email!!

'also die Werte sind deutlich besser geworden aber noch nicht gut . Gamma GT von 639 auf 330 U/l gesunken, AP von 531 auf 270 U/l also in der kurzen zeit sehr viel besser aber noch nicht ganz gut. Ich denke man kann akut Entwarnung geben, würde eine Kontrolle in ca. 1 Monat vorschlagen "

In other words my Gamma GT has reduced from 639 to 330 (I think it was actually 1639) and my AP from 531 to 270, so "they have clearly got better but are still not good..." "I think you may be acutely clear but I recommend a further test in a month's time."
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Post by: BrianI on 20 March, 2015, 12:45:48 pm
Good luck with the meds EG, hopefully no troublesome side effects.
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Post by: fboab on 20 March, 2015, 12:47:14 pm
My bloods all came back normal, so we've agreed I have depression and started me on sertraline.
I've a packet of these sitting in my coat pocket, the side affects look grim and I reckon as Spring is coming I'm not bad enough yet. I dunno.  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 20 March, 2015, 12:51:48 pm
My bloods all came back normal, so we've agreed I have depression and started me on sertraline.
I've a packet of these sitting in my coat pocket, the side affects look grim and I reckon as Spring is coming I'm not bad enough yet. I dunno.  :-\

Sertraline is what i'm on (for the moment). I didn't have any side effects when i started.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 March, 2015, 12:53:00 pm
Some people get all the side effects. Some people don't get any. Some people get some they find intolerable, some people get some they can live with. The direct effects of the depression are enough for me to risk the side effects of medication.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 20 March, 2015, 12:55:09 pm
Some people get all the side effects. Some people don't get any. Some people get some they find intolerable, some people get some they can live with. The direct effects of the depression are enough for me to risk the side effects of medication.
Aye. I reckon I'm unlucky enough to get lots of side effects, and not bad enough to risk them. Yet.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 21 March, 2015, 08:56:42 am
Wife's starting flu ("no, no, it's just sinusitis and a sore back"), I'm feeling a bit ropey, I have a 200k 12th April and my training's already shot to hell with time off for cataract op. Bugger.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 March, 2015, 12:09:03 pm
Wife's starting flu ("no, no, it's just sinusitis and a sore back"), I'm feeling a bit ropey, I have a 200k 12th April and my training's already shot to hell with time off for cataract op. Bugger.

GWS 2(T42)!

Much of the training for a 200 is mental and practical.
Don't fret!
Approach the 200 well rested, well-fed and well thought out. Skimping on food and rest in the run-up to a long ride is as least as bad as never having done a long ride.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: numbnuts on 21 March, 2015, 12:54:53 pm
I'm just home from a three day stay in hospital having L4/L5 decompression surgery now on the road to recovery, could be off the bike/trike for a while
Two weeks post op back on the bike/trike and walking, I really can't believe it, I feel great and the best bit I have no pain at all, all thanks to Southampton General Hospital.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 21 March, 2015, 01:57:15 pm
Two weeks post op back on the bike/trike and walking, I really can't believe it, I feel great and the best bit I have no pain at all, all thanks to Southampton General Hospital.

Impressive. Give it time to heal fully before you go mad.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 23 March, 2015, 11:39:19 am
I think the Sertraline has kicked in. My colleagues are freaking out because I’m “bug-eyed,” “sort of manic looking” and “smiling too much.”
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 March, 2015, 10:51:21 am
Really sweaty hands and feet today.
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Post by: tiermat on 27 March, 2015, 09:25:11 pm
BN: just weighed myself. 101.6kg, or nearly 16st in old money

GN: it means my digestive system is actually working properly...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 28 March, 2015, 01:02:43 pm
Got my bill for my various liver blood tests, shown here:

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Total cost...

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Insurance will pick up some of it but I'm paying the first 450€ of this illness (current bill at about 800€)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 28 March, 2015, 02:02:01 pm
So those are the codes for the items and their prices.
Do you have the numerical values for your direct/indirect bili or Alk Phos?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 28 March, 2015, 07:51:26 pm
Nope, not on the invoice. I'll see the doc again in a couple of weeks for another test so I'll see if I can get the results from him. But German doctors tend to keep things closer to their chests, apparently.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 April, 2015, 05:59:25 pm
I went to hospital expecting a 45min treatment session for benign paroxysmal vertigo (which I was pretty sure I didn't have) and didn't receive any treatment. Instead I was presented with a likely diagnosis of vestibular migraine or epilepsy.

Consultation with consultant will take place and I will receive a letter in a couple of months, no doubt.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 02 April, 2015, 12:18:13 am
Interesting... I hope you get seen soon and some answers - and then some possibilities of treatment etc.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 02 April, 2015, 09:18:11 am
BN: My wife's other hip needs replacing, which has kyboshed our holiday plans AND her "Silk Road" art trip to Uzbekistan later this year  :(

GN: It'll be the same surgeon as last time, and we know how good and quick the recovery should be.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tonyh on 02 April, 2015, 09:21:34 am
 :(   :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 06 April, 2015, 12:22:07 pm
Current Sertraline side-effect: night sweats so bad I tossed and turned so much last night I ripped a big hole in the bottom sheet.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 April, 2015, 07:54:52 pm
If this is vestibular migraine, then it fucking sucks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 07 April, 2015, 09:46:29 pm
Seem to be developing bronchitis after yesterday's ride. Rats.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 09 April, 2015, 09:22:00 am
yet another head cold!  Third one so far this year   >:(  ffs! With added gunky cough / tight chest too!   At least I'm on a day off today, so i'll make sure I get plenty of rest!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 09 April, 2015, 09:28:20 am
Current Sertraline side-effect: night sweats so bad I tossed and turned so much last night I ripped a big hole in the bottom sheet.

Hope the side effects ease soon EC. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 April, 2015, 09:34:52 am
Seems that my ovaries have finally FAILED, leaving me feeling really weird and light-headed intermittently and fine the rest of the time.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 09 April, 2015, 09:37:17 am
Oh, is that a menopausal thing? I put it down to low blood pressure.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 April, 2015, 10:34:49 am
Seems to be but my blood pressure was much higher than normal, I felt I was about to collapse and my heart rate has gone up a lot.

I've been expecting 'menopausal things' for a while but my Mum had few things and I've needed tampons within the past month.

HV aet 56.85.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 09 April, 2015, 11:21:16 am
I get hot flushes very rarely and they are just 'hot and sweaty for a few seconds' kind of flushes, none of the 'don't know who I am or where I am' kind of stuff. I also get a feeling of light headedness which lasts for a few seconds, almost like I am going to faint, no increased heart rate. This will occur a few times over the course of an hour, if I take a deep, slow breath it goes away but then returns later, it also goes away and doesn't come back if I drink a glass of water.

Clare, last bleed 28-29/12/14, aged 49.36.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 April, 2015, 12:12:25 pm
I can cope with hot, though for me, it seems to be of a longer duration.
My tummy seems rather temperamental; I'm off medium-large food portions, slightly nauseous in the evenings and gassy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Moultonaught on 09 April, 2015, 12:18:17 pm
Had my first asthma review after going back on inhalers last year after a number of years without them. Peak flow of 300 (although I am super snotty at the mo') :-[ it should be about 620....  they've told me to double the dose of my preventer inhaler and see if that helps things....

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Jaded on 09 April, 2015, 12:54:19 pm
I had a little accident last week (mentioned elsewhere), which left me with several facial scabs. Most were shallow scrapes & had fallen off by this evening, when most of what was left fell off in the bath.

Unfortunately, the scab which fell off (to my surprise: I thought it was solidly rooted, & it was the only one A&E had taped up last week) the bridge of my nose left behind an oozing hole. I'm not sure what to do about this. Just put a dressing on it? If so, what sort would be best, taking into account that ordinary plasters irritate my skin if left on long? Ask the GP nurse to have a look at it tomorrow?

All advice gratefully received.



PS. I was thinking until I saw that hole that I might get away without any visible scars.  :(

Tegaderm, or similar.

I know this is too late, but it's the answer for things like this. Put it on and forget it. Healing with virtually no scarring.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 10 April, 2015, 02:14:16 pm
Three weeks into the sertraline now, and went back to see the GP this morning. He's keeping me on the same dose and I have to go back in 6 weeks, or earlier if necessary.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Gattopardo on 11 April, 2015, 03:54:17 am
Nope, not on the invoice. I'll see the doc again in a couple of weeks for another test so I'll see if I can get the results from him. But German doctors tend to keep things closer to their chests, apparently.

So as a customer....
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 11 April, 2015, 07:11:05 am
Things are very different here with regard to doctors - it's a bit like the UK 40 years ago. Doctors are king and don't share much, although the Hausarzt was really friendly and down-to-earth. I reckon if I ask him for a copy of all the results for my UK health records he'll give me a copy as that's a worthwhile reason.

Something to note - in Germany there is no centralised record-keeping area. Each doctor has their own (paper) notes filing system but if you go to another doctor they know nothing about you. I remember when I moved house eight years ago, went to the doctor and registered, lo and behold they had all my notes from the last practice on the computer at my next visit which is brilliant.

This is part of the German paranoia about the Stasi/spying. No Google Streetview, not allowed to film/photograph people unless there is a big group, you aren't allowed to record people at work even if they are bullying you or something, almost no CCTV, very strict privacy/confidentiality rules, except on your blog you have to put your name and home address and everyone has their names on their letterboxes outside their houses. Most odd.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 April, 2015, 09:18:08 am
I just went to the pharmacist's for my methotrexate. I used up the last of my previous prescription last week, and Monday is the day. I arrived at exactly 9am, when the pharmacy opens, but the assistant would not give me my drugs until the pharmacist arrived. They were dispensed, checked, packaged, had my name on and were waiting for me on the shelf, but it would appear that it is not legal for  them to be handed over unless a qualified pharmacist is in the building, even though she took no part whatever in the handing over.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 13 April, 2015, 11:38:41 am
Decided to count the calories this week to check any tendency to overeat after Yr Elenydd on Saturday.

So far I've had a coffee.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 13 April, 2015, 12:18:04 pm
Our pharmacist sometimes opens the prechecked/bagged drugs and double checks the contents.  The pharmacist themselves are legally liable if there is anything wrong with the script and if there are any errors they have to be reported.  It's kinda like a last line of defense in case the GP's prescribed bad things or the pills are switched by mistake cos humans do make errors.

A friend was given a load of viagra instead of $proper drug by a pharmacy last yr. Despite being hideously dyslexic she did spot the problem, texted me and friends for advice and on our advice took it straight back and they were VERY grateful - she asked to report it and they handed the forms over right away.  Viagra could have been quite dangerous to her with her health issues. 

Individuals can also report errors which I always encourage as it should match pharmacy reporting and if it doesn't the pharmacy will be carefully inspected.

Pedantry and nitpickery are definite features in a pharmacist. If my friend had been a "little old lady" who wasn't quite with it, etc etc. Esp with drugs changing generic brands and how they look all the time!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Jaded on 14 April, 2015, 11:57:46 am
My daughter (apologies for gratuitous family reference) works in a pharmacy. They can sell front of house drugs to anyone, but not prescription or behind the counter unless the Pharmacist is there. As barakta says, there are sound reasons for this. My daughter has no desire to be at the bad end of a negligence claim.

They do get people who have forgotten or delayed their repeats, and they have a way to deal with them. They can walk the patient and the drugs over to the other pharmacy in town and get the Pharmacist there to release them. Time-consuming but good customer service.  However they will not be inclined to do this if the customer is arsey and running a high entitlement temperature. Those ones have to accept where the initial problem has occurred and come back when the pharmacist is there.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 17 April, 2015, 11:34:34 am
Remember I had a dodgy liver last month after my bout of flu.

Today I went back for blood test results and everything is very much improved and the doctor signed my insurance form so I can claim (will be about 800€ in total I have paid).

I asked him for a copy of the results for my GP in the UK and they photocopied everything. I thought you might find the BEFORE and AFTER results interesting, although they are in Germany.

When I was ill:

(http://www.auntiehelen.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/First-Results.jpg)

Now I am almost better:

(http://www.auntiehelen.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Latest-results.jpg)

I have loads of other stuff as well - they did vast numbers of hepatitis tests but the dodgy ones came back as negative.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 17 April, 2015, 01:38:02 pm
Now you are better, your blood results are close to normal.
Viruses cause deranged liver function.
Were you tested for glandular fever?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 17 April, 2015, 01:45:38 pm
My body and I have had an argument and aren't on speaking terms:

I've cycled all of about 1200km this year.  Over half of that in the last 4 weeks, mostly in 40-50km rides.  On Saturday I did the first proper ride of the year, the 100km Tamworth CC audax.  Just under 130km in total, of which the first 45km was annoyingly lumpy, and with a git of a headwind for 2/3 of the ride.  By the time I'd finished, I was utterly knackered.

I didn't ride a bike for two days, then went out on Tuesday afternoon, and just didn't have any energy.  I couldn't get my heart rate above 140bpm for any length of time (it's normally 150-180 when climbing), and was correspondingly stuck riding at wow factor 1.  My legs didn't ache, and my lungs weren't even getting a chance to be rubbish, I just had no energy.  I cut it short and came home for a total of about 30km.

On Wednesday evening I went out on the pub ride with a local cycling group.  About 36km of flat, at cyclepath pace, in two halves.  It seemed okay at the time, but I started flagging on the last 5km back to home from the city centre (probably because after leaving the group I was back on the roads, and had upped the pace a bit), and was wobbly and exhausted afterwards.

Yesterday I did as little as possible.  I was weak, couldn't work out if I was hot or cold, and generally wanted to go back to bed all day.  Also, my left wrist randomly started aching.  It feels like I've fallen over and landed on it but I don't recall any injury.  I took some painkillers before bed, and slept solidly all night.  Feeling much the same today, wrist and all.  I'm trying not to mouse with it.  Oh, and my IBS is now playing up, but that's probably hormonal and not indicative of anything.

So regardless of whether this is some vague viral lurgy or simply the result of over-doing it, I won't be riding tonight's unofficial FNRttC, for which I have orange cardboard and everything.  :(

</winge>

On the plus side, my knee's working perfectly at the moment.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 17 April, 2015, 01:57:31 pm
Now you are better, your blood results are close to normal.
Viruses cause deranged liver function.
Were you tested for glandular fever?
I was tested for the following:

Enteroviren IgG-AK *EIA* #  (Positive)
Enteroviren IgM-AK *EIA* #
HCV-Antikörper *CMIA*
EBV-Serologie (HHV-4) *IB*
VCA-IgG *EBV-Viral Capsid AG* (Positive)
VCA-IgM *EBV-Viral Capsid-AG* (Positive)
CEA *CMIA*
HBs-Antigen *CMIA*
Anti-HBc-IgM *CMIA*
Heptatitis-B-Core AK *CMIA*
Anti HAV IgG qualitativ *CMIA*
Anti-HAV-IgM *CMIA*
EA-IgM *EBV-Early Antigen* (Positive)
EBNA-IgG *EBV Nuclear Antigen*
Cytomegalie-Virus IgG-AK *EIA*
Cytomegalie-Virus IgM-Ak *ELFA*

Some other stuff as well such as Creatinkinase, Lactardehydrogenase etc etc. This is a summary of a two page document list of tests!

So it doesn't look like they did test for Glandular Fever.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 17 April, 2015, 02:24:09 pm
Glandular fever is caused by the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV).
I can't work out if it's positive.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 17 April, 2015, 02:52:13 pm
That was the summary, I will PM you the details!

Although the doc didn't say it was glandular fever so I assume the results suggest not.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 17 April, 2015, 03:05:24 pm
Just going through the invoice from the GP (285,92€,  including the cost of the needle for my blood tests etc) and we have a winning blood investigation: Blutkörperchensenkungsgeschwindigkeit. This is 'little blood cell sinking speed', whatever that is!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 17 April, 2015, 03:09:18 pm
Isn’t that what they call 'sedimentation rate' over here?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 17 April, 2015, 03:16:18 pm
I guess so! But Blutkörperchensenkungsgeschwindigkeit sounds more technical ;-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 17 April, 2015, 03:38:18 pm
Yes, it's ESR - Erythrocyte Sedimentation rate. Normal female value <5 but easily rises to >100 in many acute illnesses.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Bledlow on 17 April, 2015, 06:02:57 pm
I had a little accident last week (mentioned elsewhere), which left me with several facial scabs. Most were shallow scrapes & had fallen off by this evening, when most of what was left fell off in the bath.

Unfortunately, the scab which fell off (to my surprise: I thought it was solidly rooted, & it was the only one A&E had taped up last week) the bridge of my nose left behind an oozing hole. I'm not sure what to do about this. Just put a dressing on it? If so, what sort would be best, taking into account that ordinary plasters irritate my skin if left on long? Ask the GP nurse to have a look at it tomorrow?

All advice gratefully received.



PS. I was thinking until I saw that hole that I might get away without any visible scars.  :(

Tegaderm, or similar.

I know this is too late, but it's the answer for things like this. Put it on and forget it. Healing with virtually no scarring.
There's a slight dent now, only noticeable because it's still discoloured.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 April, 2015, 12:47:42 pm
I'm just over 4 weeks into the sertraline just now and it's going great. It's definitely working, and the majority of the side-effects have passed. I still have sweaty hands and feet, deranged body temperatures, a bit of a clenched jaw, and intermittent jitteriness, those are all minor and tolerable. I think I've been very lucky.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 20 April, 2015, 12:54:08 pm
I'm just over 4 weeks into the sertraline just now and it's going great. It's definitely working, and the majority of the side-effects have passed. I still have sweaty hands and feet, deranged body temperatures, a bit of a clenched jaw, and intermittent jitteriness, those are all minor and tolerable. I think I've been very lucky.
Me too. I think I'm a few days behind you and not only do I feel much better but not one of the terrible list has manifested.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 April, 2015, 01:14:01 pm
I've had loads of side-effects, but apart from the above, each one has only lasted 2-3 days at a time and then been replaced by something else. In order, they were
- bug-eyed, manic-looking jitteriness
- extreme fatigue and sleepiness, falling asleep at my desk
- weird vivid dreams
- upset stomach
- night sweats so bad my tossing and turning ripped a hole in the bottom sheet
- very clenched jaw, grinding teeth

Oh, and a constantly dry mouth.

My GP says I came in at the right time - if I'd left it much longer, the depression would have been more entrenched and harder to get rid of, and he says it was good that I'd thought it all through before I went and was willing to start the meds straight away.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 April, 2015, 01:28:04 pm
I seem to have many of the above symptoms but I'm not on citalopram or sertraline.
I've been on fampridine to improve my walking but I stopped it at the weekend.
I feel weird, about to pass out but don't pass out.
My heart rate is much more than usual, even though I'm sitting calmly and my BP is up.
I feel nauseous and am intolerant of heat.
I've not sweated much.
I feel jittery, my jaws clench or twitch and sometimes I get tingling round the lips.
I find it difficult to settle to sleep in bed but sometimes nod off inappropriately when sitting.
My bowels are unhappy and sluggish.

I think I'm better off the fampridine, though my mobility is worse.
I think some of this might be due to my ovaries finally packing up...

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 21 April, 2015, 02:38:47 pm
Repeated the fat burning test today. In 2 months, to the day, my fat burning has almost doubled. My LT has increased by 20-30W. My HR at LT has reduced by 10bpm. My lactate buffering ability has improved signifantly. Fat burning at moderate intensity is heading for 60%. Vo2max is slightly off - probably fatigue caused that.

Apparently that level of improvement would normally be expected to take 3 months. Normal people don't do 430km training sessions though. Keeping up what I'm doing I should be able to approach 70% fat burning.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 23 April, 2015, 04:32:34 pm
Phew. Lots of exercise isn't bad for you. And the lowest-mortality is at much higher amounts of exercise than the current recommendation. And adding in some high intensity exercise is better still.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/the-right-dose-of-exercise-for-a-longer-life/?WT.mc_id=2015-2NDQTR-KWP-INTL_AUD_DEV-0330-0628&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=IntlAudDev&kwp_0=14351&kwp_4=97031&kwp_1=138470&_r=0

Now that the case is closed, I'll not be reading any further articles about this subject.

Lalalala I can't hear you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 April, 2015, 09:06:41 am
Something unidentified has whacked my liver in the chops right in time for tomorrow's 300k.  Was fine Thursday, got fitted for new bike, came home & ate as usual, yesterday felt weak and nauseous with "heavy" but not intense headache, today not so bad until after breakfast when nausea/headache reappeared. Lots of tea and feel a bit better but totally lacking in enthusiasm for printing route-sheets, packing, etc etc.

Possibly went hypo early Friday morning, then metformin stopped liver kicking out reserves, but when that happens the headache is usually crushing but all is fine again by lunchtime. God knows what'll happen after pasta-loading this evening, but he ain't telling.   :sick:  :sick:  :sick: ?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 29 April, 2015, 08:33:06 pm
Oh poo. My wife is awaiting a referral for a hip replacement, and has seemingly burst a blood vessel, or possibly got a DVT, in the other leg! Had to take her to the surgery where she got a Wafarin injection just in case, and she's off to the hospital tomorrow for ultrasound to check it out. Meantime she can't sit down. She's feeling a bit pissed off right now. Can't say I blame her.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 May, 2015, 11:23:20 pm
I'm having a fasting cholesterol blood test tomorrow, which requires 12 hours' fast prior to the test. My instructions state:

I should bring a snack for after the test. (Given the surgery is 100 metres from my abode, I won't bother!)
After the test I should not lift heavy objects
After the test I should not go to the gym for 24 hours.

This strikes me as overkill for what is really no more than a late breakfast!

Are all such delicate flowers?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 May, 2015, 10:12:27 am
I think those are the standard 'fasting' instructions, which are written assuming some of the fastees might be diabetic.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 05 May, 2015, 11:02:52 am
Suppose so.
I am prone to low blood sugar but am not diabetic.
I have learned how to avoid crashing when fasting...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 05 May, 2015, 12:32:33 pm
Many people aren't used to fasting.  Some people don't react well to being stabbed (and optionally dug around in) with needles.

What's overkill for most people will prevent a minority from keeling over, so it's not unreasonable advice.  Wobbly patients hanging around tend to make surgeries run late.

I'd certainly never consider going to the gym after one; that'd be like exercise or something.  I have gone on to do a FNRttC the same day, and suspect my bike counts as a heavy object.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 05 May, 2015, 01:41:55 pm
Interesting that they don't list driving.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 05 May, 2015, 02:06:02 pm
True and people drive everywhere here.
It's about 100 metres to the surgery from here and we pass two branches of the same minor road, enclosing a bus stop island, on the way.

Partner apologised for nearly killing me in the traffic.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 May, 2015, 09:11:34 am
When a kid, micropsia (aka Alice in Wonderland syndrome) is almost fun.

Getting it when you are an adult, with a job to get to, etc, is just a complete pain and utter pain in the arse.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 07 May, 2015, 11:09:46 am
I used to have Alice in Wonderland Syndrome when very tired, less frequently these days.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 May, 2015, 11:54:18 am
Did you get it when you were an adult?

As a kid, it just came and went with no side-effects.

Now I get thumping headaches, like a bad hangover.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 07 May, 2015, 11:56:33 am
I get it still, when tired. I didn't know there was a name for it.

In other news, signed off work with my back. How people survive in this kind of pain for years is beyond me.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 May, 2015, 11:59:35 am
Seems mine are a side-effect of migraines and and sign that my brain is not getting blood properly, or something.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 07 May, 2015, 03:12:12 pm
I can't recall having it for several years. It would usually happen when e.g. reading a book late at night. Everything would be the wrong size; the words on the page, the letters in the words; the room I was in. My tongue.

I think mental tiredness rather than physical fatigue would be a trigger for me. I've also had ocular migraines and occasional full blown migraines.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 09 May, 2015, 05:09:09 pm
Today is the first Saturday in months I've had the motivation to go swimming. Yay for sertraline! I even did a couple of sprints.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 May, 2015, 12:31:56 pm
Seems mine are a side-effect of migraines and and sign that my brain is not getting blood properly, or something.
Experimentation has shown that I can't drink even on small glass of red anymore. :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 May, 2015, 08:18:50 am
Normally I do a set of exercises (with therabands) 3 times a week. If I neglect to do this, I get serious pain and instability.

This last week I've neglected them, because middle of the week I made 3 car trips loading up sacks of rubble, carrying them through the garage. Over the weekend I loaded and barrowed about 3 ton of building rubble from a house 100m away, including lumps that were 50kg or so apiece.

My back is fine. Better than fine in fact, it feels more limber and less likely to collapse than it has in ages.

I'm starting to think I should pick up a barbell and some weights and just do some basic deadlifts rather than mess with the therabands.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 May, 2015, 03:12:59 pm
And still fine - improving by the day.

A major hit (well, ok, over a £100 per month) to our income means barbells are out of the question. I'll make do with a bag of sand.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 May, 2015, 06:35:28 pm
I bought a blood pressure machine from ebay, which arrived in the post today.
It cost less than £20.

My upper arm is just 2cm below 'Max' on the standard 'medium' cuff.

Methinks that cuff would be too small for over half the UK population as I'm a gurl with 'stick-like' arms.

(My blood pressure is fine, BTW. It was high at my 'health check' last week but 120/60 seems fine to me!)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 May, 2015, 01:03:02 pm
Eight weeks into the sertraline, and I'm definitely feeling the benefits. I'm cooking from scratch a few nights a week instead of living on pizza and bread, and I feel like I'm walking instead of trudging. I'm going back to see the GP on Friday.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 May, 2015, 02:14:38 pm
Good to hear it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 18 May, 2015, 02:54:56 pm
Good to hear, EG!

In other news, I wish I could shake this damned cold. Blood count shows a normal amount of white blood cells, my chest is clear but I can't stop coughing and sneezing!

Colds, normally, last a day or two with me, this one has been visiting for the last week and a half! I blame the effects of the Methatrexate.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hulver on 18 May, 2015, 03:45:54 pm
Eight weeks into the sertraline, and I'm definitely feeling the benefits. I'm cooking from scratch a few nights a week instead of living on pizza and bread, and I feel like I'm walking instead of trudging. I'm going back to see the GP on Friday.

Just been catching up on this thread, sertraline is doing me wonders as well. I left it for far too long before going to the doctor though.

I had the bug-eyes for a few days, although I think that was the worst of the starting side-effects.

I had to increase dose after the first month, as although my mood had improved I was still very unmotivated. I now have to remember to take the pills in the morning, as I'm feeling normal again.

I'm glad it's working for you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 18 May, 2015, 09:07:56 pm
Bowel cancer screening. Not only do you get a Special Free Gift in the post for "before", you get a souvenir photo to take away after, too.  :thumbsup:.

Top value, NHS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 May, 2015, 09:29:21 pm
Eight weeks into the sertraline, and I'm definitely feeling the benefits. I'm cooking from scratch a few nights a week instead of living on pizza and bread, and I feel like I'm walking instead of trudging. I'm going back to see the GP on Friday.

Just been catching up on this thread, sertraline is doing me wonders as well. I left it for far too long before going to the doctor though.

I had the bug-eyes for a few days, although I think that was the worst of the starting side-effects.

I had to increase dose after the first month, as although my mood had improved I was still very unmotivated. I now have to remember to take the pills in the morning, as I'm feeling normal again.

I'm glad it's working for you.
Yeah, my bug-eyes were hilarious to see.  My GP has warned me 3 times not to stop taking the pills just because I feel better because I'll almost certainly relapse.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 May, 2015, 10:35:30 pm
Bowel cancer screening. Not only do you get a Special Free Gift in the post for "before", you get a souvenir photo to take away after, too.  :thumbsup:.

Top value, NHS!

Great fun!

I hadda polyp so had to go back for a colonoscopy; even more fun...
...and more pictures.

Still much better than consequences of polyp turning nasty!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 18 May, 2015, 10:42:19 pm
Bowel cancer screening. Not only do you get a Special Free Gift in the post for "before", you get a souvenir photo to take away after, too.  :thumbsup:.

Top value, NHS!

Great fun!

I hadda polyp so had to go back for a colonoscopy; even more fun...
...and more pictures.

Still much better than consequences of polyp turning nasty!

Oh Wow! I know one of the "2 out of 300 will have polyps"!! Can I have your autograph?

I was surprised quite how many people there were watching the show - all girls, natch - but top work to the team for attempting to keep me distracted with small-talk. It nearly worked! Didn't need the gas & air though  :smug:.

Me: "So, find anything interesting?"
Doc: "Nope. Just a beautiful bowel."

Riiiight....
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 May, 2015, 10:45:42 pm
Didn't have the Entonox for the siggy but did have it (but no other painkillers or sedatives) for the colonoscopy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: offcumden on 19 May, 2015, 08:49:32 am
Me: "So, find anything interesting?"
Doc: "Nope. Just a beautiful bowel."

I think they must teach this kind of thing at medical school.
I was screened for Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm -

Me:  May I see the pictures?
Nurse:  Of course. You have very photogenic insides.
Me:  Go on, you say that to all the boys!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 19 May, 2015, 12:27:10 pm
My wife need a new hip. She saw the GP about 6 weeks ago who got her X-rayed and referred, and this week got her NHS consultant appointment for the end of June. From there it's anyone guess how long it would be to the op - last time she got a cancellation after about a month, but in a hospital an hour away.

Meantime her son (who works in the City, and who is off to Chicago for 2 years in August) said he'd pay for her to go privately.

We saw the consultant last Thursday, and she goes in for her op Friday 29th. 2 weeks and a day, and £12k is all it takes.

This being her second hip replacement, at least she knows that afterwards she's likely to be fully mobile before too long, and good for the next few years.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 May, 2015, 09:51:59 am
I had a dental check-up this morning and we talked about the sertraline making me clench my teeth and bite my tongue, so he's making me a bite guard.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 20 May, 2015, 10:58:00 pm
So, after waiting months, I finally see the consultant in the Balance clinic. I have diary of health with food etc printed out.

He asks how I've been. How often am I getting the headaches (well, daily). Then tells me "We need to treat these headaches if you are getting them daily, I will write to your doctor. Contact her in a week or to to make an appointment to discuss what medication you will take."

Well, ok. Um what are you treating me for? Yeah, that's right, at no time did he say what he thought might be the problem. So I say
"Last time I saw your colleague, Sally, she said she conferred with you and you thought I had vestibular migraines. Is that what you are treating me for, or just treating the symptoms, the headache?"

"Yes, we will be trying to treat the vestibular migraines with medication."

He had to be the most unforthcoming medical person I have ever met. At the time I was suffering a dizzy/spaced out episode that made it hard to speak. He didn't examine me, he didn't ask about the current state I was in or what I was feeling. A 10yr old with Google would have done a more thorough job. You know how they talk about doctors who aren't actually interested in patients? Yeah, one of those.

The physio who was in the room was a bit different, checked I was ok to walk, checked I didn't have far to go and wasn't driving.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 May, 2015, 11:17:09 pm
A tale of two hospitals

I've had two hospital appointments this week, one in Queen Square and one in Central Middlesex. Both were late afternoon appointments and I was seen close to my appointment time each time.
Queen Square: queue for reception, tiny cramped, crowded waiting are, not enough room to swing a wheelchair, seemed BUSY.
Central Middlesex: HUGE deserted waiting area about 50 seats, of which we seemed to be the ONLY occupants. No queues for reception as no other patients!

CMH felt very underused...
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Post by: tiermat on 21 May, 2015, 10:12:55 am
Sorry to hear that, Mr C, I have had similar experiences, and opposite ones too.  If I could choose where to go and see the gastroent specialist, I would go back to Halifax everytime.  The specialist there treated me as human being, took interest in me and my condition and was, generally, a nice bloke.  At the Friarage I feel like just another number, get through the appt as quick as possible, pile more medication on me and tell me to go home.  No interest in reviewing my notes BEFORE the consultation (I had to give him an overview and I suspec the first time he opened my notes was when I was sat there going over the past 15 years with him).  He even managed to get the dosage of one of the medications wrong when I was speaking to him, luckily the pharmacy tech picked up on it and queried it.  He, during the consult, said I would need to start on 15mg for 4 weeks, then increase it to 20mg.  He also said he would write to my GP to outline the same.  He did write to my GP, but only to say I was on 15mg, nothing about increasing it, so when I went to see said GP about a repeat script and increasing the dose, he wouldn't do it!  Obviously I fully understand that but it annoys me that one thing was said in the consult and another actually done.

I have it all to repeat shortly with a repeat visit to ENT to get a different hearing aid (I have broken 5 in 7 years, all the same way, through water ingress)
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 21 May, 2015, 11:10:55 am
You wonder why some decide to work in medicine, don't you?
I was really disappointed. The contrast with some of the other staff (in multiple departments) was stark.
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Post by: Kim on 21 May, 2015, 12:25:23 pm
You wonder why some decide to work in medicine, don't you?

Some say "I want to be a doctor when I grow up" at age 7, are clever enough and their parents hold them to it.  Sometimes they discover they'd much rather do SCIENCE, and move sideways into that.  Or specialise in a field where the patients are mostly dead or unconscious.  But not often enough.

And then there are the ones who are perfectly good doctors, as long as you conform to their prejudices of what constitutes a worthy patient...
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Post by: offcumden on 21 May, 2015, 12:55:13 pm
And then there are the ones who are perfectly good doctors, as long as you conform to their prejudices of what constitutes a worthy patient...

Or, presumably, as long as they conform to your prejudices of a what constitutes a worthy doctor...  ;)
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Post by: Kim on 21 May, 2015, 12:56:44 pm
And then there are the ones who are perfectly good doctors, as long as you conform to their prejudices of what constitutes a worthy patient...

Or, presumably, as long as they conform to your prejudices of a what constitutes a worthy doctor...  ;)

GPWM
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Post by: hellymedic on 21 May, 2015, 01:34:10 pm
Doctors' personalities are as variable as those of the general population, though most doctors are better at passing exams at an early age.

Not all have empathy though many do.
All doctors are human beings, subject to error, bad temper and bad luck.
Some are understandably demoralised and depressed by increasing workload and constant criticism.

I think there are enough different specialties within medicine to accommodate the variations in personality and aptitude.

Exhaustion does not a good doctor make.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 May, 2015, 11:12:00 am
Soluble/dispersible aspirin, oh how I love thee.

Beats the fuck out of swallowing some pills, can sip it over a period of time

(yes I actually like the taste. So much so, that as a baby I ate a whole bottle of 100)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 22 May, 2015, 12:43:18 pm
Liquid paracetamol, on the other hand, only tastes okay if you've got enough anaesthetic left in your system that everything tastes like that.  That's a fairly narrow window, that usually expires about halfway through the cup of liquid paracetamol...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 May, 2015, 08:50:08 pm
Soluble/dispersible aspirin, oh how I love thee.

Beats the fuck out of swallowing some pills, can sip it over a period of time

(yes I actually like the taste. So much so, that as a baby I ate a whole bottle of 100)
Me too. Not to that extent, fortunately. Do you remember orange-flavoured 'junior aspirin'? Made to be palatable to kids, they stopped it because it was too tasty and some children treated it as sweeties. This would have been mid-70s, I guess. It always tasted horrible to me, and I was so glad when I was allowed to have proper grown-up chalky aspirin instead. Yes, it does taste good.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 22 May, 2015, 10:10:12 pm
Oh god, this thread has just reminded me how vile some childhood medicine was. I think it might have been Calpol. It was orange and bloody disgusting.

And a few years later, I couldn't swallow tablets so I decided to try eating a paracetamol at the same time as a PppppPenguin.
That worked, not.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 22 May, 2015, 10:20:23 pm
I went back to the GP for a review today. I've been registered with that practice for about 20 years and I've never had a single complaint about them, but my appointment today was very rushed. They were over-running so they probably wanted to make the time up, and I suppose it's not like I needed a lot of time, but I'm sure I was in and out in under four minutes, with 2 months more sertraline and a reminder to go back in July or August.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 22 May, 2015, 11:31:34 pm
I was fine with Junior Disprin, tolerated Penbritin (ampicillin) but got furious with Panadol cos IT DIDN'T WORK!

An 8 year old with toothache is not a happy bunny, especially as Disprin worked and Panadol didn't.

I have had little time for paracetamol since 1966...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 22 May, 2015, 11:40:59 pm
hmm, I twice woke in the small hours of thursday, as first one then the other calf cramped. Unfortunately I can still feel the tightness in my right calf when I walk and tenderness if I rub / massage it. As I cycle commute with no real alternative at the moment it has been a case of gearing down and winching my way up the two climbs in the hope that I don't cause more problems.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 22 May, 2015, 11:46:26 pm
Just don't ankle!
The muscles operating your hips and knees have more than enough power to propel your bike!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 25 May, 2015, 12:46:13 pm
After about three weeks of feeling bloody awful with cold and cough derived exhaustion, suddenly this morning I woke up feeling almost 'normal'.
I've been doing the 'snorting saline' thing for a few days, and I suspect that I've shifted something from my sinuses.
What a relief, whatever it is.
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Post by: Ashaman42 on 28 May, 2015, 10:11:33 am
Well I managed to pass out whilst having a wee last night  :-\

Luckily I realised what was about to happen so managed to stop weeing mid flow and sit on the floor before I actually passed out, just. Woke up some period of time later (I think only a few seconds or so) with my neck nicely twisted where I landed wedged up against the bath and a nice lump behind my left ear where I hit something.

Called out for my other half and sod's law this was the one time in a blue moon that I'd locked the bathroom door when just going for a wee.  ::-)

Still it could have been a lot worse, at least I didn't fall from standing and smack myself off the ceramic sink or tub on the way down.

No idea what caused it but as I'm home alone today I think I'll sit down when using the toilet just in case.

I hate that waking up wondering how the hell you got there feeling.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 May, 2015, 10:20:41 am
that sounds scarey! Has this happened before?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ashaman42 on 28 May, 2015, 10:26:22 am
Not really. I sometimes have a little spinny head when I get up from a crouch or if I've been lying on the sofa with my legs up on my partner's lap but the Dr reckons that's a little bit of postural hypotension (checked out a year or two ago). Normally walk it off though sometimes sit back down again just in case. I've never fainted from it though.

But I hadn't just got up in this case. I'd had a few beers but spread out over the day with dinner and snacks in between. I wouldn't say I was sober but not really drunk either.

Dunno, shant go to the Dr for a one off but will take it easy today and if it happens again I will get myself checked out.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 28 May, 2015, 12:12:01 pm
I did that once. First visit to the loo following a GA.

The nurse caught me.
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Post by: Ningishzidda on 28 May, 2015, 12:25:05 pm

Still it could have been a lot worse, at least I didn't fall from standing and smack myself off the ceramic sink or tub on the way down.


Dooh,, You might have though of the Flux Capacitor.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 28 May, 2015, 12:30:00 pm
In cyclists...

Bradycardia-induced Syncope.

Join the club.

In the old days, we took 'pep pills' from a bloke round the corner to stop this happening.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 29 May, 2015, 09:27:09 am
Pah! Wife due in for hip op today, went for blood test on Tuesday. Last night at 9pm we got a call from the staff nurse who'll be looking after Mrs F. "Has any called about your blood test?" No. "Ah, well it coagulated before they could test it, can you come in an hour early tomorrow so we can do another?".

As a paying customer (literally in this case) I shall be having a moanette to BMI about that.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 02 June, 2015, 09:11:56 am
Had a few weeks off spinning, too knackered after the exertions of qualifying . Punishing this morning.
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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 June, 2015, 08:54:04 am
I am ill for the first time in almost a year, leg injuries notwithstanding.

I got home from hols yesterday and about 6 hours later the old razor blade appeared in my throat and I now have the dreaded creeping flesh. I will phone my schools in a moment and tell them I'm not coming. The trouble is that we are also supposed to be looking after grandson tomorrow and that's going to be difficult. Mrs. Wow has similar symptoms to myself.

I hope s-i-l's parents can cover for us. I feel dreadful.
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Post by: offcumden on 03 June, 2015, 08:57:51 am
I am ill for the first time in almost a year . . . . . I got home from hols yesterday . . .  I feel dreadful.
::-) ::-)

Get well soon!
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Post by: Wowbagger on 03 June, 2015, 10:15:56 am
We weren't anywhere noted for dangerous diseases: the South of France.
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Post by: Auntie Helen on 03 June, 2015, 12:45:53 pm
Get well soon Wow!
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Post by: Wowbagger on 03 June, 2015, 07:44:37 pm
Our Maidstone trip has ben cancelled and t'other GPs are covering. I thought I was feeling better at lunchtime but I feel lousy again now. There might be a Laphroaig at bed time.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 04 June, 2015, 05:59:43 pm
Feeling worse if anything. If I had the energy I'd be grumpy.
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Post by: hellymedic on 04 June, 2015, 06:14:56 pm
Get Well Soon, Wowsers!
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Post by: Wowbagger on 06 June, 2015, 02:55:35 am
The dreams associated with this bloody illness are the weirdest ever. I am being driven aimlessly around a French landscape, but with great urgency. When I wake up, which seems to be every hour or so, nothing happens. I make myself have a drink of water and the moment I try to go back to sleep, we are off again. I feel like one of the little dots of light on Jo's map demonstrating London hire bike usage. The annoying part is that the sensation doesn't even stop when I decide to relieve the monotony by going for a crap. My fevered brain just won't switch off.

Sod it, I think I will make a cup of tea.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 June, 2015, 08:05:57 pm
Is there any evidence, I wonder, of the efficacious effect of a really hot curry on an infected throat? I've just had one and it has made me feel lots better.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 06 June, 2015, 08:15:23 pm
I do not know BUT I'd guess two mechanisms in which a hot curry might be helpful.
1) The spiciness might activate the pain 'gate' and reduce the sensation of throat pain.
2) Induced sweating might bring down your fever.

This is pure educated guesswork.

The 'gate' theory of pain is a thing.
Gustatory sweating is a thing
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 June, 2015, 08:35:54 pm
When I worked at HMCE, one morning my throat developed a great soreness and a fever was upon me. One chap I worked with, one Phil Townsend, decided that this needed to be nipped in the bud so he suggested a curry lunch in which I had the hottest curry on the menu, along with chilli pickle, and afterwards had a large single malt.

Such was the culinary onslaught on that occasion that it cut short any thought my body might have had of incubating an infection and on every exhalation you could almost make out the microbial white flags being waved.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 06 June, 2015, 08:42:40 pm
Once met a bloke in a pub in Germany who used to be a chef somewhere in the far east who swore by eating a whole raw chili at the onset of cold symptom. Never tried it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 06 June, 2015, 08:50:55 pm
Not so much for throats (though curry is the sort of food that's non-abrasive, which is desirable with a sore throat), but hot curry is my go-to solution for congestion.  The effect is sadly temporary, but at least it tastes like food while you're eating it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Andrij on 08 June, 2015, 10:18:39 pm
Wonder if the pea-sized stye on my right eyelid will fade away or burst.  It came to a head over night.

Glad I'm not reliant on contct lenses.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 June, 2015, 11:59:36 am
Hmm, been prescribed low-dose amitriptyline, not for depression, for migraine-y pain. That's going to be interesting.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ham on 12 June, 2015, 12:04:50 pm
Hmm, been prescribed low-dose amitriptyline, not for depression, for migraine-y pain. That's going to be interesting.

Mrs Ham has been going with this for several months for back pain, not happy at all, visiting doctor to talk about stopping.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 June, 2015, 12:30:06 pm
It seems I'm embarking on 'diagnosis by treating symptoms with drugs'. If the amitriptyline doesn't work, they want to try beta-blockers.
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Post by: Pedaldog on 13 June, 2015, 10:58:51 pm
I have got Giant Cell Arteritis! It is a bit scary.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 June, 2015, 11:05:51 pm
Blimey there is a coincidence, I was talking to my aunt today (for the first time in over a year) and she has the same.

Treatable with steroids, so they say.
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Post by: hellymedic on 13 June, 2015, 11:15:17 pm
Friend in local CTC has giant cell arteritis, daignosed within past fortnight.
I think two Camden Cyclists also have it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 June, 2015, 02:48:29 pm
So it's just like buses, then?
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Post by: hellymedic on 14 June, 2015, 05:08:28 pm
Arteritis is probably quite common...
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 June, 2015, 11:35:55 am
I came across this article. It almost made me cry, knowing I'm not alone or going insane.

http://migraine.com/blog/cognitive-dysfunction-during-attacks/ (http://migraine.com/blog/cognitive-dysfunction-during-attacks/)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 16 June, 2015, 04:58:58 pm
I came across this article. It almost made me cry, knowing I'm not alone or going insane.

http://migraine.com/blog/cognitive-dysfunction-during-attacks/ (http://migraine.com/blog/cognitive-dysfunction-during-attacks/)

Great find there, it helped me to try and cope with the "Big Ones" after nearly 20 years of distress.

y' might be going insane as well I suppose?
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 June, 2015, 10:30:57 pm
nah - more likely to be Alzheimers.
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 June, 2015, 02:27:04 pm
Interesting juxtaposition of articles in today's Grauniad:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/19/jurassic-worlds-chris-pratt-equality-means-objectifying-men-too
and
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/19/anabolic-steroid-use-leaves-britain-facing-health-timebomb
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ben T on 20 June, 2015, 08:44:10 pm
If you were a sperm donor years ago, what is the chance you have got children somewhere?
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Post by: simonp on 23 June, 2015, 03:52:38 pm
I played football today.

It turns out it takes more than a day and a half to recover from a 12h TT.

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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 07 July, 2015, 12:56:28 pm
I went back to the GP for a review today. I've been registered with that practice for about 20 years and I've never had a single complaint about them, but my appointment today was very rushed. They were over-running so they probably wanted to make the time up, and I suppose it's not like I needed a lot of time, but I'm sure I was in and out in under four minutes, with 2 months more sertraline and a reminder to go back in July or August.
I had a couple of bad weeks in the middle of June where I felt like I was back to square one, so took a Friday as annual leave to make a longer weekend, and have been much better ever since. Last weekend I remember thinking to myself "I almost feel normal today." (Normal for me, not normal normal, obv). I am wondering if there is a hormonal element to the down patches, but it's hard to track since the mirena ate my periods. Feeling much more stable the past couple of weeks, and have booked some annual leave on one or two Mondays per month to give myself some longer weekends (and to use my leave up by end of September because we're not allowed to carry it over any more).
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Post by: T42 on 22 July, 2015, 01:56:33 pm
Today's ride was a right flustercluck. Trying to lose a couple of kg so didn't eat much carb last night. Left at 6 am with a marmelade sannie in the breadbasket, felt lousy on the hills. Pharted about on cycle track feeling worse all the time before giving up & turning home. Another bloody vile climb in between, of course. Got in, ate my usual breakfast & took DB meds, went upstairs & flopped on bed.  Woke up an hour later with nausea and roaring headache.

Reckon I got the bonk on the bike & didn't recognize it, then DB meds at home stopped my breakfast filling in the carb hole.  I then went hypo in my sleep & woke up with the consequences.

Lunch - without DB meds & followed by apple clafoutis with ice-cream - took care of it.

All for 20 km. Sheesh.
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Post by: Ningishzidda on 23 July, 2015, 12:53:30 pm
2 kg is 8000 kCals.
Think 20 kCals per km.

That’ll be 4 x 200 km rides, eating 10 kCals per km.

That’s possible in a week.
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Post by: fboab on 23 July, 2015, 01:14:38 pm
That's bollocks and completely oversimplistic.
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Post by: hellymedic on 23 July, 2015, 03:18:04 pm
Factually incorrect AND oversimplistic.

1 gram fat is 9kcal anyway.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 24 July, 2015, 11:06:46 am
Factually incorrect AND oversimplistic.

1 gram fat is 9kcal anyway.

Yup, you're right.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 July, 2015, 11:28:57 am
Factually incorrect AND oversimplistic.

1 gram fat is 9kcal anyway.

Yup, you're right.
First rule of yacf:
Teh helly is always right.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 July, 2015, 12:50:11 pm
What if she disagrees with teh Julian?


My mental health is continuing to be better and I've had several days in the past month where I've felt almost back to normal. I know I'm not there quite yet, but it's coming. I'm seeing my GP again on Monday.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 July, 2015, 12:52:46 pm
What if she disagrees with teh Julian?
That would be a bit like crossing the streams, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 24 July, 2015, 12:59:20 pm
My mental health is continuing to be better and I've had several days in the past month where I've felt almost back to normal. I know I'm not there quite yet, but it's coming. I'm seeing my GP again on Monday.
That's great news  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si_Co on 24 July, 2015, 01:02:10 pm
Woke up this morning with a swollen eye, now feel like complete carp, I'd go home but am not sure I'd make it at the minute.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 24 July, 2015, 01:05:36 pm
Whilst we are talking medication...

Just after Xmas my consultant started me on Azapriothine.  I really really didn't get on with it as I felt like I was covered in crawling ants, all the time.

So he stopped that and put me on Methatrexate.

No crawly skin feeling = good!

But now I a) feel the cold much more than I did before (Thyroid blood test shows it to be normal, so not anything physically wrong with me) b) I feel pain more than normal, this is a bit of a problem as I am still in the "one blood test every 2 weeks stage" 3) I bleed more than normal (see b) )

Other than that, for the first time in about 10 years normal service has been resumed in other parts of my body.  This, in total, I would say is a win!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 July, 2015, 03:51:43 pm
What if she disagrees with teh Julian?

Then teh Julian is right.
Cos teh Julian is always right.

We seldom post conflicting things thobut.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 29 July, 2015, 09:48:46 am
I went for some physio last night - nerve pain in my leg as a result of tight muscles in my back. Was subjected to manipulation that's more painful today than the leg! I'm sure there'll be bruises.  :-\

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 29 July, 2015, 10:06:41 am
The medication I am on has really started to work. I can't top eating!!! This is unusal for me as I know that I, usually, don't eat enough, but yesterday I had a breakfast bar before leaving home, then a HUGE bacon and egg butty, then a large pack of grapes.  I skipped lunch, apart from having a bag of crisps, and finsihed the day with a large mixed kebab starter followed by a chicken tikka massala.

And I am hungry again!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: benborp on 29 July, 2015, 10:58:40 am
A flighty bitey thing in the night has taken a leisurely trip along one of my surgical scars. I want to bite my arm off.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 July, 2015, 11:56:54 am
Ice can remove the itch.  that or antihistamine cream
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si_Co on 29 July, 2015, 02:53:56 pm
Neat lavender oil is great for insect bites.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 July, 2015, 12:52:47 pm
Try to catch a falling glass, I backhanded a cactus.

Got most of the spines out - but one has vanished into finger joint (that's what it feels like, anyway). Swollen lump on finger for a week so far. It was filled with pus on mon and I though the spine would come out with the pus. No joy.
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Post by: Ningishzidda on 30 July, 2015, 01:17:25 pm
Try to catch a falling glass, I backhanded a cactus.

Got most of the spines out - but one has vanished into finger joint (that's what it feels like, anyway). Swollen lump on finger for a week so far. It was filled with pus on mon and I though the spine would come out with the pus. No joy.

Time to go to A&E. A old cycling buddy of mine came back from work in America. While in Nevada during his last week there, he fell against a cactus and got spined. He died of septicemia within six months.
The crazy thing was the staff at the British hospital reckonned he'd been self-harming with needles and found it difficult to believe he'd had a desert crash on a bicycle in Nevada near Las Vegas. They thought he was a teller of tall tales.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 July, 2015, 01:19:03 pm
Time to go to A&E. A old cycling buddy of mine came back from work in America. While in Nevada during his last week there, he fell against a cactus and got spined. He died of septicemia within six months.
I'm keeping an eye on my wrist. If red lines start crawling up my veins, A&E it is. Bin there, done that.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 30 July, 2015, 09:21:44 pm
You could try soaking it in hot salt water, or epsom salts in water, to try to draw it out.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 30 July, 2015, 09:59:44 pm
+1 to Epsom salts, my mum swears by a paste of it - it drew some marram grass out of the dog's leg years ago....
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Post by: campagman on 01 August, 2015, 08:09:47 pm
Had to Bail out early from my trip to the Welsh Cycling Rally due to a painful lump developing on my backside. Caught the train home and went straight to the Walk-in Ctr. They put me on Antibiotics and drained some 'Cottage Cheese' (their words) from said lump. They put on a dressing to help draw out the muck, gave me another to replace it with and told me to make an appointment with the GP practice nurse on Tue/Wed.
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Post by: campagman on 02 August, 2015, 06:09:07 pm
Well, this morning I felt that the original dressing was leaking from the side as the CC built up so showered and changed it ( was told it would be less painful to change after showering but no). I now see that the new dressing is pretty full so will need changing in the am. Hopefully I will get an am appointment to see the practice nurse tomorrow.
What about removing the dressing and putting on some shorts with the back filled with tissue or other absorbant material. If I then do a w/o, you know squats, lunges, burpees, etc. Would the pumping of the legs and glutes help to clear away the CC without needing to apply another, very painful to remove, dressing?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 August, 2015, 06:45:57 pm
Tissue disintegrates when wet; do not use!
Making your own gauze dressing would be OK.
Maybe secure this with sticky tape.

Exercises which 'encourage' the CC to come out will do no harm but may hurt.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 02 August, 2015, 08:25:06 pm
Because it is only 2 weeks since my last UTI, I haven't restocked the emergency antibiotics and will have to sit outside my GP from 8:30 in the morning.
Grrrreat.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 August, 2015, 08:30:08 pm
GWS fboab! Touch wood, I've not had a full-blown UTI for yonks. Smelly wee without symptoms yeah but no proper UTI.
Used to get loads.
Sympathies!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 04 August, 2015, 01:42:51 pm
Roll on Friday.

I am on week 12 and everything has been a struggle since about Saturday evening...

Even getting to work today took a lot longer than expected (though turning the alarm off and going back to sleep didn't help!)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 04 August, 2015, 07:37:10 pm
Off to see the opthalmic surgeon tomorrow to see if he agrees it's time to give me at least one new cornea (or endothelium, if he thinks that approach will work better).  It's got to the stage where I can't drive at night (riding a bike on dark cyclepaths is a nightmare too, since I can't see peds and unlit oncoming POBs against a background of headlights), reading a computer screen is very difficult before about 11am and it's all fog and rainbows until 3pm or later on some days.  The only treatment possible other than surgery is 5% salt eyedrops, which do work, but only for about five minutes at a time ::-)

He is the best in the country and work will pay for it to be done if theatre availability is the contraint, but it's not elective surgery because you need donor material.

The downside is that I will need glasses ever after, because it's never a perfect job, and my current vision (at the right time of day and in flat lighting) is extremely good.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 06 August, 2015, 06:28:29 pm
Good news - the right eye is being done this year and I might not need glasses because I get to keep my own optics (which are all 20/20 bar the waterlogging).  General anaesthetic and a fortnight at home with bi-hourly eye drops (day and night!) afterwards.  The guy is probably the best in the UK and did my father's eyes for Fuch's a few years ago.  Night rides might be back on next year...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 06 August, 2015, 08:15:43 pm
Good news Roger, hope it goes as smoothly as poss and lasts a while too.  I know how important it is to have trust in the slicey docs, I tend to be rather picky myself.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tonyh on 07 August, 2015, 07:59:35 am
Good news...
The guy is probably the best in the UK...
Night rides might be back on next year...

 :thumbsup:

Eye surgeons are brilliant.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: campagman on 08 August, 2015, 07:07:23 pm
Thanks Helly a diy Gauze dressing has been good.
I have been seeing my GP practice nurses each day this week to have my dressing changed, my bum squeezed/kneaded to extract puss and monitor progress. The dressings that are now being used are virtually un-noticeable. A swab of the puss taken on Mon has identified MRSA and the Flucloxacillin Anti-B’s that I had been taking since last Thu to be wrong. I am now on Erythromycin Anti-B’s.
As it’s now the w/e I have been back to the WiCentre this am. The HCA there was surprised that they have been using some Inadine gauze and that I haven’t had the Abscess opened and drained. Not wanting to cause trouble she just changed the dressing. She also said that this dressing should be good for two days so should not need to go back tomorrow. I will mention to the GP nurse on Mon about opening and draining. Although the dressings are covered in puss, squeezing /kneading has not produced any extra puss on the last two visits.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 09 August, 2015, 03:56:55 pm
I appear to have or be developing an ear infection which is both making my balance worse than usual (baseline is pretty shite) AND painful and setting off TMJ pain I've historically had a lot of problems with.

*WHINGE!*

I am now eating all the drugs that might possibly help degunk that part of my anatomy and or kill pain. Even eating paracetamol which I don't usually bother with.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 August, 2015, 04:43:00 pm
GWS barakta! I can't remember ever suffering anything more painful than an ear infection so you have my sympathy!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 09 August, 2015, 05:33:56 pm
I appear to have or be developing an ear infection which is both making my balance worse than usual (baseline is pretty shite) AND painful and setting off TMJ pain I've historically had a lot of problems with.

*WHINGE!*

I am now eating all the drugs that might possibly help degunk that part of my anatomy and or kill pain. Even eating paracetamol which I don't usually bother with.

How thoroughly grim Barakta.  Fuck off ear infections.  You are not wanted here.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 10 August, 2015, 05:40:23 pm
^^^Sounds vile. GWS.  I noticed my own balance was a bit iffy walking across the supermarket car park this morning: had an old-fashioned peeler applied the old-fashioned walk-the-line test I'd have been ruled incapable. Hot weather, sloppy sandals & low blood-sugar the culprit, sez I.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 12 August, 2015, 11:42:16 am
Yesterday I ended up helping my brother-in-law pour the footings for his extension, this involved three of us stood astride the trench with shovels assisting the flow of concrete to the furthest ends of the footings. This has set off my hip so I am now glad to be off work, sat with my feet up and generally doing nothing.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 August, 2015, 01:56:35 pm
It was always my bugbear working as a doctor in an area where kids' home language was not English that the kids learnt good English at school but missed out on colloquial 'toilet' and 'body' vocabulary.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 14 August, 2015, 02:35:34 pm
It was always my bugbear working as a doctor in an area where kids' home language was not English that the kids learnt good English at school but missed out on colloquial 'toilet' and 'body' vocabulary.

That (and the reverse language barrier) seems to be a recognised issue these days, at least amongst the more clueful providers of sexual health information.  I think the smoking cessation people have re-branded on a similar basis (ie. that an awful lot of smokers don't know what 'cessation' means).

I think barakta has written before about how our level 2 BSL tutor made a big deal about the importance of Deaf people being able to access medical information, with the seriousness of someone who'd obviously experienced the AIDS crisis of the 80s when the only source of information was misheard scary TV/radio adverts.  Vocabulary and an idea of how to wing it when necessary, but also more subtle stuff, like how 'positive' implies 'good'.

(The class demographic meant the lessons repeatedly deteriorated into an MMR/autism argument, but we were on the side of SCIENCE and were better at sign than the anti-vaxxers, so they were pwned if not actually convinced.)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 August, 2015, 10:45:07 am
As of tonight, I'll be on beta blockers as well as the amitriptyline (mostly so the dose of amitriptyline can be reduced).

I already have slightly low blood pressure, so this will be interesting . . .
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 18 August, 2015, 02:01:33 pm
I've been suffering from strange tenderness in my nose for a couple of days - it feels a bit like I've taken a punch to the face. The pain is in the bit that wikipedia tells me is called the lateral nasal cartilage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_nasal_cartilage).

It's most odd. And quite unpleasant. I don't recall actually having been punched. My only thought is perhaps that some creature has gone up my nostril and bitten/stung me, causing inflammation. I suffer from hayfever, so it could be related to that, but I've never had symptoms like this before.

Hmmm. If it doesn't clear up in a day or two, I might have to visit the doctor for the first time in several years, but in the meantime, if anyone has any thoughts...

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 18 August, 2015, 02:04:33 pm
Mk 1 zit inside the nostril?  Those can be unreasonably painful.

I had one just inside my ear canal last week, which hasn't happened to me before.  Possibly initiated by a biting beastie.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 18 August, 2015, 02:09:32 pm
A 3/8 reamer might do the trick.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 18 August, 2015, 02:10:26 pm
Mk 1 zit inside the nostril?  Those can be unreasonably painful.

Quite possible. I've had that before (and yes, unreasonably painful is right) but usually in the lower reaches of the nostrils - this feels much deeper inside.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 18 August, 2015, 02:11:47 pm
A 3/8 reamer might do the trick.

You are to ENT surgery what Laurence Olivier is to dentistry.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 19 August, 2015, 11:59:14 am
Another possibility occurred to me - I may have fallen asleep with my glasses on . The perils of reading in bed!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 August, 2015, 12:10:11 pm
It was always my bugbear working as a doctor in an area where kids' home language was not English that the kids learnt good English at school but missed out on colloquial 'toilet' and 'body' vocabulary.
I'd have thought they'd pick up most of that from other kids in the playground.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 August, 2015, 12:26:11 pm
It was always my bugbear working as a doctor in an area where kids' home language was not English that the kids learnt good English at school but missed out on colloquial 'toilet' and 'body' vocabulary.
I'd have thought they'd pick up most of that from other kids in the playground.

Yebbut they don't before the age of about seven.
They don't seem to talk about Rude Things when they are much smaller.

I have also seen evidence of adults missing subtle visceral literal allusions.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 August, 2015, 10:28:59 am
beta blockers.

Not a great fan so far. Yes they are helping a bit with the migraines symptoms. However my heart rate is through the floor; resting heart rate is normally mid 60s, it has gone down to 50. Can't do even medium intensity aerobic exercise, heart just doesn't speed up, not enough oxygen getting round the system.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 19 September, 2015, 08:08:11 am
After my stent in 2008 my BP ran a bit high for a couple of weeks & the cardiologist put me on BBs.  I suffered under the damned things for three years before managing to get out from under - it cost me my 2011 entry to PBP since I wasn't able to train properly.  Climbing was hell.

I remember the cardio mumbling something about athletes being more strongly hit by BBs than other folk, so it may be that your dosage is the standard one for the average punter.  The catch-22 is that once you're on them, cutting them suddenly can be dangerous - tachycardia risk - so the doc has to taper off the dosage to homoeopathic levels before discontinuing them.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 September, 2015, 08:50:38 pm
I'm a bit more stable now - still struggling to get any fitness, but I did manage to ride into work on Wed, and home on Fri.

One thing that has really changed is I'm prone to getting cold arms and legs. Used to not bother with much more than a short sleeved top until temp were below 5C; on wed it was 4 C, I wore a thin ls merino top, gloves, ss cycling top, legwarmers and my arms and legs frozen by the time I got to work.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 21 September, 2015, 02:00:17 pm
Bum - literally almost. I seem to have developed bursitis on one of my sit-bone contact points. Possibly as a consequence of my fall onto that side a couple of weeks ago, possibly quite unrelated. And next week I'm off for a 10 day cycling holiday.  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 21 September, 2015, 09:43:50 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34290430

To the half who ignored the Special Invite. You squeamish bunch of Weiners - JFDI. It might just save your life.

Signed: A Squeamish Person.

PS: Strange that fewer women than men took up the one-off option. Usually, it's us blokes who are the weeds, when it comes to medical stuffs.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 September, 2015, 11:06:23 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34290430

To the half who ignored the Special Invite. You squeamish bunch of Weiners - JFDI. It might just save your life.

Signed: A Squeamish Person.

PS: Strange that fewer women than men took up the one-off option. Usually, it's us blokes who are the weeds, when it comes to medical stuffs.

I went for mine.
They found and removed a polyp.
This meant I needed a colonoscopy, which was clear.

My friend, who lives not to far away was not invited for screening. She would have jumped at the chance to be screened.
Her first husband died of bowel cancer.

My brother in law has passed the magic age of 55 but also not had an NHS birthday card.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 23 September, 2015, 07:33:53 pm
I don't want to hijack any other thread but as a moderate eater, slow weight loser and lover of CAEK and chocolate, I seem to be bombarded by emails and other encouragements to overeat.

Today it was Amazon Local inviting me to a Afternoon Tea at a bargain price and a Twiter friend pointing me to a blog from the Clandestine Cake Club (that is a Real Thing).
Yesterday it was Hungry House.

I'm really glad I don't have a TV and seldom go shopping.

Methinks sitting stock still in my kitchen, with the cupboards closed is less obesogenic than getting out.

By now I am hardly surprised there's so much obesity. There is so much junk food everywhere and portion sizes of 'good food' are HUGE for sedentary folk.
 Just had to vent...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: triker131 on 24 September, 2015, 05:59:42 pm
Don't know if this belongs in this thread - it concerns a random accident.

I had a mishap two weeks ago whilst splitting firewood - the afternoon of Wednesday 9th September, 2015. Got the splitting axe stuck in the end of a round so I gave it a good belt with a 4kg sledgehammer. Done it thousands of times before but this time a flake of metal flew off and hit me in the left thigh. Profuse bleeding, called local GP surgery thinking it needed a stitch. Practice nurse super glued it back together - this was about one hour after the accident by which time it had stopped bleeding. The wound looked clean - so far so good.

The next morning the area for about 4" all around the wound was very tender, inflamed but not hot, probably not infected. Spoke to NHS 111 service and they confirmed my view that I needed an X ray. After a very long wait at Chichester A&E xrays confirmed that the flake (6-8mm wide) was between 5 and 6cm deep in the thigh muscle (vastus medialis) as deep as, and to the inside of the femur. Really couldn't straighten or flex leg. Given option of surgery to remove it that evening and said yes. All gowned up and ready for operating theatre when, about 20:15, when informed that an emergency broken hip had arrived and could I go home. So home for the night, return to hospital Friday morning, see a different surgeon and discuss options again. Advised would require 6-7cm incision - leg had eased a little during the night. This time decided to leave it be and returned home. Can't see how to attach photo of xrays.

Mobility has gradually improved since then and it's now 2 weeks since I was scheduled for the surgery that didn't happen. On Saturday and Sunday (days 10 and 11) I had two short rides on a regular bike, no problem. Tuesday and Wednesday (days 13 and 14) I did about 16 miles each day in my usual ride, a Trisled Rotovelo velomobile, an 85lb recumbent trike with full body fairing. Aware of the wound but not in a painful way. Tried pushing it as fast I could go later in each ride and still no problems either during the ride or afterwards.

After about 1 week I could walk downstairs fairly normally and almost bend the knee to a right angle. Now I can sit cross legged comfortably one way and "just about" with the legs in the other orientation - albeit with an uncomfortable stretch. Quadricips stretch for the left leg - can get left heel to about 3" from buttock and getting closer every day.

It turns out that this is quite a common accident when two hardened steel objects are brought together with force. I've been very luck in a number of ways. Firstly the "safe" location of the wound - could have been an eye or could have severed nerves or arteries in the leg - or sensitive places not far away from the thigh! Safety glasses wouldn't have helped at all - this went straight through more than 2 inches of muscle. Secondly that some poor bugger broke their hip and I got a second chance to decide on the surgery. It might be that, in time, I will need to have it removed. If the healing plateaus and I get discomfort from pedaling - then maybe it will have to come out. I wouldn't have thought two weeks ago that I have have regained most of the flexibility and utility of my left leg. I've split that pesky log and a bunch more besides these last few days - but without using a sledge on the axe!

What really ticked me off when I first did it was that two days earlier, Monday 7th September I returned from a 4 day cycle camping trip in France and I'd done my biggest lifetime daily mileage on the Sunday with 82 miles at age 59. If I include the early Monday morning 21 mile ride home from the ferry then I did my first every "century" in 22.5 hours (with a crap night's sleep on the ferry in between) - and then shot myself in the leg two days later.

The main reason I'm posting this is document the recovery in case anyone else is ever in the same situation. I thought I was going to be off the bike for weeks - can't believe how quickly it has got better.

Other bits of relevant info are: I'm T2 diabetic which doesn't help with wound healing. I completed a 7 day course of antibiotics to protect against potential infection from the piece of rusty metal. The other issues will be airport security (metal detectors) and MRI scans. I understand that depending on field strength and location of metal debris an MRI is not necessarily contraindicated. The second surgeon did joke (I assume) about using an MRI magnetic field to pull the metal back out through the existing entry wound.

Who knows, maybe having a good source of iron to hand will help with the cramp that I usually get in that same muscle.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 27 September, 2015, 03:48:56 pm
By now I am hardly surprised there's so much obesity. There is so much junk food everywhere and portion sizes of 'good food' are HUGE for sedentary folk.
 Just had to vent...

Popcorn buckets have now reached France.  God bless America: they have their revenge for France's saying non merci to Bush's war on Iraq.

After lunch I had occasion to marvel at the power of fast carbs.  I did a 100k run this morning on a couple of bits of bread for breakfast and a croissant halfway and got home, feeling carb-deprived shivery, to find the missus just taking a cauliflower-crust "pizza" out of the oven.  Two portions of that followed by a hot shower & a cuppa and I still felt cold, but five minutes after eating two slices of gingerbread & butter I had to roll my sleeves up.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 28 September, 2015, 12:36:56 pm
“Junk food”, is food that scientists haven’t discovered what purpose it serves.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 01 October, 2015, 06:50:03 pm
https://twitter.com/qikipedia/status/649638476602863618?s=09

Quote
According to at least two independent sets of research, man flu is real. Men really do feel worse than women when they’ve got a cold.

Just sayin', like.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 06 October, 2015, 01:07:07 pm
I've had this sharp, excruciating pain under my left shoulder blade for about a week. It goes away when the area is supported but is agony when I'm standing or moving about. A massage yesterday didn't help. Tiger Balm gives a tiny bit of relief, but mostly I'm hobbling about going owww.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 06 October, 2015, 06:11:57 pm
I swallowed a fishbone today. I'm on holiday in Majorca and had visions of seeking medical attention to remove said bone.

Then the sharp pain went away and I finished my meal.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 October, 2015, 08:32:54 am
I've had this sharp, excruciating pain under my left shoulder blade for about a week. It goes away when the area is supported but is agony when I'm standing or moving about. A massage yesterday didn't help. Tiger Balm gives a tiny bit of relief, but mostly I'm hobbling about going owww.

Try lying down for 20 minutes on one of those microwavable heat packs, as hot as you can take it.

"Funnily" enough I'm having a week off the bike after wrenching my weak shoulder by wrestling a heavy wooden shutter in through the window after the high winds last week pulled one of its hinges out of the wall.  The microwave bit was my doc's suggestion.

@Helly: Mediterranean fish stocks are down to 10% and you're eating what's left? Poetic justice.

(Hope the HCl took care of it.)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 08 October, 2015, 12:45:40 pm
I went to the hospital, this morning.

Nothing serious, I just had an appointment for a fitting for a new hearing aid.

Bloody Hell! Everything is LOUD now....
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 08 October, 2015, 12:54:20 pm
Bloody Hell! Everything is LOUD now....

Apart from the audiology receptionist, of course.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 08 October, 2015, 07:01:46 pm
Bloody Hell! Everything is LOUD now....

Apart from the audiology receptionist, of course.

Of course!

The audiologist was lovely but more than a little patronising. I felt like telling her that I do understand how hearing aids work, that I am not a child, nor senile and that I fully understand why she ran the tests that she did.

I swear I heard a spider spinning a Web,  today!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 08 October, 2015, 07:13:29 pm
Audiologists and their special dumbing shit down games >:(

Inaudible receptionists is just lolz... This is why Kim gets the battery stash :D

Hope the tooloud settles and feels more normal and you're hearing what you need to hear better.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 08 October, 2015, 07:21:14 pm
I try not to get too upset by medics dumbing things down.  I'm sure most of the time it's a script that works successfully with the majority of their patients, and they don't necessarily know you well enough to get the right level.  And of course some of them don't have a clue about technology (it is usually technology) themselves, so aren't capable of a more intelligent discussion.

My favourite was the theatre nurse who described an ECG as a "special telly" about 2 minutes after I told them I was an electronic engineering student.  I may have upped the sarcasm on principle at that point ("Yes, I built one when I was a kid, the grounding can be really temperamental."), but it wasn't really their fault.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 October, 2015, 08:12:03 pm
My favourite was the theatre nurse who described an ECG as a "special telly" about 2 minutes after I told them I was an electronic engineering student.  I may have upped the sarcasm on principle at that point ("Yes, I built one when I was a kid, the grounding can be really temperamental."), but it wasn't really their fault.
That might have been how it was explained to the nurse...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 09 October, 2015, 08:51:24 pm
Eye operation (DSEK) next Friday.  Apparently they've got quite good at it now; it failed three times with my father and eventually they did a full penetrating keratoplasty instead, which basically means cutting out the cornea like a dustbin lid and sewing a donor one in place.  Ewww.  In my case they make a small incision and cut a slice from the back surface of the cornea, bung a slice of donor cornea in there and inflate it to hold it together until it sticks with scar tissue. Thankfully I shall be asleep while all this is going on.

If it works I can have the other eye done in about six months to a year (it takes that long for the scar tissue to disappear, hopefully leaving a clear cornea that is once again capable of clearing water from the stroma), then I am basically fixed.

This all sounds very hi-tech but corneas are the most common transplant and they've been doing the penetrating kind since about 1940.  No blood supply, you see, so no tissue match needed.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Genosse Brymbo on 09 October, 2015, 08:58:40 pm
I hope all goes well, Roger :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 09 October, 2015, 09:01:47 pm
Good luck Rog.  Best wishes for a trouble free op.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: perpetual dan on 10 October, 2015, 05:14:26 pm
I hope your op goes well Roger.

I've had a sore arm since the start of September. Many normal arm positions give no pain, but putting my arm in the wrong place creates a sharp pain. No idea how it happened. Probably time to see the GP and do something more than avoiding waving my hands in the air (like I just don't care) about it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 17 October, 2015, 04:24:34 pm
All done now.  Just light and shade yesterday but it's improving rapidly and I could probably just about grope my way around with the right eye now.  For the time being I'm wearing a black eyepatch (Emilio Largo style) as the blurry image from the right eye is interfering with the clear image from the unoperated eye.  Worst bit is that for the first 24h, you are supposed to spend 75% of the time flat on your back facing the ceiling.  I can't sleep on my back as it aches; I always sleep on my side. So I didn't sleep much and I have a twinge all down my back today.  Anyway, the 24h have gone.  The general anaesthetic was just like being asleep, with no side-effects.

I am banned from any kind of work for two weeks, even hoovering!  The risk is that the graft detaches under any kind of strain before it has properly attached itself.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 October, 2015, 09:17:12 pm
Heal well.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 18 October, 2015, 10:32:48 am
Heal well and hope you manage to do the boring resting.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: andrewc on 18 October, 2015, 10:49:18 am
Heal well & quickly Roger.  Don't forget to keep the eyepatch for the next "talk like a pirate" thing  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 18 October, 2015, 10:50:56 am
Heal well.  Hope it's optically good once everything's all knit up.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 18 October, 2015, 08:08:15 pm
It's remarkably good today; I could probably read the top line on an eye chart with it despite the fact that there is still a pretty big air bubble in there (this is deliberately added during surgery to press the graft against the inside of my own cornea and make it stick, and is absorbed after a few days).  All in all, it's amazing considering the usual timescales quoted for useful vision after this surgery.  I don't think my father could see much for two months. I am right at the bottom of the age range for this procedure, with very early onset Fuch's dystrophy, so my eye probably heals quicker than the typical patient who would be in their 70s.

Post-op consultation is on Tuesday (train trip to Reading) when he can tell me to what extent it has so far "bonded".

In one of those "small world" surprises, my cat's opthalmologist knows my opthalmologist  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Canardly on 18 October, 2015, 09:01:30 pm
Sounds very positive so far. Heal well!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 October, 2015, 12:35:10 pm
Slow release propranolol is making my eyesight really blurry. Seeing-double blurry with knobs on. Can only read text off computer if I zoom in.
Asked pharmacist if there was anything that would help, thinking she's suggest some sort of eye drops. No, she says, nothing will help with that. See if eyes settle down and if not, try a different beta blocker.

That's an embuggerance, that is, because apart from blurred eyes, this dosage and pills are really working for me.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 21 October, 2015, 07:28:50 am
It's remarkably good today; I could probably read the top line on an eye chart with it despite the fact that there is still a pretty big air bubble in there (this is deliberately added during surgery to press the graft against the inside of my own cornea and make it stick, and is absorbed after a few days).  All in all, it's amazing considering the usual timescales quoted for useful vision after this surgery.  I don't think my father could see much for two months. I am right at the bottom of the age range for this procedure, with very early onset Fuch's dystrophy, so my eye probably heals quicker than the typical patient who would be in their 70s.

Post-op consultation is on Tuesday (train trip to Reading) when he can tell me to what extent it has so far "bonded".

In one of those "small world" surprises, my cat's opthalmologist knows my opthalmologist  ;D

There are things you've never heard of until you or someone you know has got them and they're bloody.  That one sounds horrible: I hope everything continues well.

Me own reason for tripping these hallowed halls is trivial in comparison: since the end of September my dodgy right shoulder has been hurting on a scale from 3 to 8 depending on what I've been doing with it.  Yesterday evening I suddenly realized that all the pain was gone, and I can swing my arm about and lift moderate weights with impunity.  Must have been a trapped nerve. :)  Now I have to rebuild my quads. :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: perpetual dan on 21 October, 2015, 11:04:52 am

I am banned from any kind of work for two weeks, even hoovering

I imagine that's starting to get to you ... hope its still going well!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 21 October, 2015, 06:29:45 pm
After yesterday's follow-up with the surgeon, I have been given permission to ride a bike (!) so presumably the hoovering clause is now null and void.  I just have to avoid blows to the head and I must not, under any circumstances, rub my right eye.  Still on two-hourly eye drops (steroids every 2, antibiotics every 4).  Pupil remains very dilated as atropine is used during the surgery and takes at least a week to wear off. and this will be causing most of the fuzziness at the moment.  Once it shrinks down to normal size I should have pretty good vision, certainly up to driving standard in the "new" eye.  You can't tell how good it's eventually going to be until six months have elapsed, it's all knitted together, the swelling has gone and the scar tissue has hopefully clarified.  Given that most people can apparently see bugger all through a corneal graft for a month or so, it's incredible.  And yes, I am grateful to whoever's slice of cornea is now implanted in mine...it will hopefully outlive them by another 40 years or so.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 25 October, 2015, 08:15:35 pm
After having viral lurgy since Monday I was hoping the sodding hot/cold/hot/cold nonsense had stopped on Friday (just as my shoulder spazzed up to compensate by requiring stupid doses of codeine to nobble it)... But nope, felt crappy when I woke up today and am back to hot/cold/hot/cold again this evening.

If I'm not well enough to go to work tomorrow I'm going to have to bother my GP for a sicknote. I can't really afford a second week off sick, so may haul my arse into work regardless cos if I go splat trying they do at least see it's genuine and not cos I'm having a strop about the shambles which is our new poorly accessible to me office.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 27 October, 2015, 11:27:01 am
I'm sitting in the surgical admissions waiting room in Lancaster infirmary as I am booked for an overnight stay.
They're going to do, under anaesthetic, a biopsy on a tumour on my epiglottis. I'm not a happy camper as I've not had any Koffi since 5am! They say it's Prolly not the Cancer but I am..... A Little bit Nervous of the results.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 October, 2015, 12:33:09 pm
Good luck!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 27 October, 2015, 01:09:58 pm
Good luck pd!
Thinking of you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 27 October, 2015, 01:14:01 pm
Good luck with that, and happy coffee after.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 27 October, 2015, 03:25:54 pm
Good luck. Hope they are right and it isn't cancer. :)
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Post by: Ruthie on 27 October, 2015, 06:07:56 pm
Luck!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 28 October, 2015, 08:41:38 am
Thanks for the good wishes, I was sat in the waiting room, surgical admissions, for Six Hours! I couldn't complain as they were seeing Children before the older farts like myself. Finally got taken in and given the sleepy stuff.
My throat hurts so bad but I can't do anything about it. DRUGS in a generally opiate stylee are being Nom Nom'd but it hurts like hell having to use pills. Liquid Morphine has been requested.
I just want to go back Home.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 28 October, 2015, 08:49:16 am
Hugs pedaldog.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 October, 2015, 01:27:17 pm
Well a night of semi-fits, vertigo and double vision, trying to work from home - now right eye has shimmering artifacts over a 1/3rd of my field of view.  They persist even with my eyes shut. ffs

Closed all curtains, turned down brightness on PC. kaleidoscope effect went away after 30min or so.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: perpetual dan on 28 October, 2015, 01:44:52 pm
I hope the day improves for both of you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 October, 2015, 11:56:28 am
I did the sensible thing and went to the optician. Different one from last time, a very young-seeming lass (anyone who looks younger than my kids is very young, ok?) who was extremely thorough.
She was noticeably more knowledgeable than the previous (older man). Seems at my previous exam, just 3 months ago, the exam showed I needed reading glasses. Since then there has been a major deterioration in my close-in sight and the optician's opinion was that this would be contributing to migraine issues.

Due to my other eye issues, the cheap off-the-shelf reading glasses would be worse than useless. Bah effing humbug, here goes a major expense I could do without.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 30 October, 2015, 12:20:23 pm
I'm pretty sure I'm developing arthritis in my first metacarpalphalangeal joint on my non-dominant hand. I have a friend who is a hand therapist so I will ask her to look at it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 30 October, 2015, 03:32:00 pm
Missus went shopping this morning and brought back a bunch of Chinesey stuff for lunch.  Without really thinking about it I ate a load and an hour later was poleaxed - it must have had a GI rating in the low astronomicals. Slept for an hour and a half, struggling back to the surface now and feeling like shit warmed up on a shovel.  Got a club committee meeting this evening and I'm still having trouble putting one foot in front of the other.

Yetch.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 October, 2015, 03:51:04 pm
Doesn't boiled white rice have a GI similar to jelly babies?

If I'm going to eat high GI stuff, let me eat CAIK!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 31 October, 2015, 08:34:10 am
Boiled rice is fairly explosive but it's the GI of the entire meal that counts rather than just the components.  Unfortunately, although we had noodles rather than rice and I didn't eat a lot of them, the rest was all stuff like nem* and sea food in batter - i.e. rice-flour skins on the nem and lots of very thick batter.  Should have known better.  Touch of arrythmia in the evening & all night, gradually going away now. No coffee today. :(

* it was supermarket Viet rather than Chinese. Crispy deep-fried rolls with various fillings.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 31 October, 2015, 10:49:20 am
I sometimes have a reaction to Chinese food and I'm sure it's not the carbohydrates. It's likely something to do with high levels of MSG.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 31 October, 2015, 10:58:29 am
I sometimes have a reaction to Chinese food and I'm sure it's not the carbohydrates. It's likely something to do with high levels of MSG.

Probably more likely to be that, do you have a reaction to strong cheese?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 31 October, 2015, 01:03:32 pm
I certainly can't tolerate hard cheeses when I'm taking metformin.  If I knock off it for a day or two, as I do on a decent Audax, I can pack it away with the best of them.  I reckon that the toxins in it - and all cheese is toxic in some measure - take the same metabolic pathway as metformin in the liver, which overloads and protests.

I don't usually have bad reactions to Chinese food, though.  Strange.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Samuel D on 31 October, 2015, 01:21:11 pm
I got pneumonia three times as a very young child and, perhaps as a consequence, all my life have suffered from a propensity for chest infections. Just spent two weeks recovering from my last one.

These are brought on by (a) lack of sleep, (b) being cold, (c) lack of food, and (d) exertion, in that order of importance. I can get away with any one factor (except lack of sleep for several days running) but in any combination they kill me.

I have come to accept that cycling increases my risk.

Does anyone here suffer from cycling-related chest infections and have you found a way to reduce your risk?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 31 October, 2015, 03:46:04 pm
Ouch! I went to the doctor, yesterday, for my B12.

Ended up having that, 'flu jab AND  pneumonia jab.

My left arm now is really hurty!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 31 October, 2015, 04:05:50 pm
Just had another PR bleed.  Feel carp and teary now.  Also got the prep for my colonoscopy and gastroscopy which are happening in a week.  Going to view a potential new house in half an hour.  Yay.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 31 October, 2015, 04:19:48 pm
Poor Ruthie. So sorry. Have a hug and a Tilley-lick.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ham on 31 October, 2015, 04:50:09 pm
I got pneumonia three times as a very young child and, perhaps as a consequence, all my life have suffered from a propensity for chest infections. Just spent two weeks recovering from my last one.

These are brought on by (a) lack of sleep, (b) being cold, (c) lack of food, and (d) exertion, in that order of importance. I can get away with any one factor (except lack of sleep for several days running) but in any combination they kill me.

I have come to accept that cycling increases my risk.

Does anyone here suffer from cycling-related chest infections and have you found a way to reduce your risk?

Not quite the same thing, but some 20 years ago, I ignored a chest infection whilst going skiing and ended up with a bad case of pneumonia. Ever since then, I have had a propensity for any cough or sniffle to turn into a chest infection. The tendency when feeling unwell is to breathe shallowly, which actually exacerbates the problem, leaving bacteria to multiply. Far better to breathe very deeply  and bowing out deeply, almost (probably more than almost) hyperventilating for a minute a few times a day. I find that works well with cycling.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 31 October, 2015, 06:31:10 pm
Seems at my previous exam, just 3 months ago, the exam showed I needed reading glasses. Since then there has been a major deterioration in my close-in sight and the optician's opinion was that this would be contributing to migraine issues.

Due to my other eye issues, the cheap off-the-shelf reading glasses would be worse than useless. Bah effing humbug, here goes a major expense I could do without.

Sympathies. I had to spend £250 replacing my lenses which were ~9 months old as they were WAAAY out.

I actually think it was dodgy Vision Express so am trying to see if they gave me a screwy eyetest which I won't be able to prove or if they gave me duff lenses (provable if the reported ex-lens strength is different from Vision Express prescription)... 

I'm about to tell work that if they won't fix the lights they can pay for tinted glasses in my current and now correct prescription cos the new lighting is making me ill.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 31 October, 2015, 06:57:41 pm
just ordered the new lenses and frames - frames were cheapish, lenses were £140 . . .
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 01 November, 2015, 03:20:29 pm
Ouch! I went to the doctor, yesterday, for my B12.

Ended up having that, 'flu jab AND  pneumonia jab.

My left arm now is really hurty!

This got worse, so much so that I couldn't eat my dinner last night. I treated Mrs T to a night away, spent close on £100 on a meal of which I only ate a few mouthfuls! I was in bed, and asleep by 19.30.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 01 November, 2015, 04:01:37 pm
^^^Funny you should mention that.  I got my flu shot on Tuesday and I've been smelling funny smells and feeling off-colour since Friday.  In particular I've been running round the house with the CO detector, convinced that I could smell smoke leaking from a cracked flue and that we were all going to die.  Detector remains resolutely on zero.  Remembered this morning that the last time I had flu I did exactly the same thing. The virus attacks the mucus membranes, hence the phunny smells.  Also, my arm is still a bit sore where the needle went in, but my wife's hasn't hurt at all.

Heigh ho.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 01 November, 2015, 04:09:29 pm
That is weird, I convinced myself that our boiler was leaking CO, too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 01 November, 2015, 04:37:42 pm
One of the first symptoms of non-specific viral lurgy that I get is a complete inability to tolerate the smell of vinegar.  To the point where my reaction to a whiff of tomato ketchup makes a useful diagnostic test.

My reaction to this year's flu jab was that my arm was a bit sore to lie on in bed the following night.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 01 November, 2015, 04:39:53 pm
That is weird, I convinced myself that our boiler was leaking CO, too.

Comforting to know it's not just me - it might have been our flue, after all.  But I roasted a batch of coffee this afternoon & it smells just the same. :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 November, 2015, 02:08:37 pm
The only thing I noticed after my 'flu jab 9 days ago was a sticking plaster which caught my T-shirt.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 02 November, 2015, 02:10:58 pm
The only thing I noticed after my 'flu jab 9 days ago was a sticking plaster which caught my T-shirt.

Blimey! You must go to a posh doc's if they give you a sticky plaster!

As, previously mentioned, I had 3 shots in the same visit (B12, 'flu and pneumo) and got nowt but "See you later"...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 03 November, 2015, 09:53:15 am
Asked my doc about the 'flu jab' and he said "You don't need it."

He added "Your body is in better condition than some men twenty years younger."
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ham on 03 November, 2015, 12:00:33 pm
That is weird, I convinced myself that our boiler was leaking CO, too.

Comforting to know it's not just me - it might have been our flue, after all.  But I roasted a batch of coffee this afternoon & it smells just the same. :(

Perhaps the flue jab made a small hole ? :demon:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 03 November, 2015, 01:25:57 pm
Asked my doc about the 'flu jab' and he said "You don't need it."

Well done, you evidently chose the right parents.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 November, 2015, 07:39:47 pm
Asked my doc about the 'flu jab' and he said "You don't need it."

Well done, you evidently chose the right parents.
pmsl
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 05 November, 2015, 10:28:06 pm
I had my biennial eye check* today and while there I had a chat with my optician about dealing with my hay fever. She had a couple of suggestions for why my left eye is always more of a problem than my left.

The first was that I have some very slight scarring of the eye surface from when I scratched it 8 years ago. The second was that I have some eyelashes on the left eye that curl the wrong way and may poke into the eye when it's irritated. For the second she suggested eyelash curlers?!

I'm also daring to try contacts again, which surprisingly she suggested may actually help the hay fever (or may not). Hopefully this time round I won't end up in front of a hospital slit lamp within a week :-\


*Yep, checked and they're still there :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 05 November, 2015, 10:29:28 pm
Nothing wrong with eyelash curlers.  They're part of my daily routine!*


*lie

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 05 November, 2015, 10:32:54 pm
You want to be a bit careful with the mascara, thobut.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 05 November, 2015, 11:04:49 pm
Labelling a disease as 'Dickensian' is unhelpful. Thank you BT!
http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/wellbeing/dickensian-lung-disease-bronchiectasis-on-rise-among-pensioners-11364014776372 (http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/wellbeing/dickensian-lung-disease-bronchiectasis-on-rise-among-pensioners-11364014776372)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 10 November, 2015, 05:46:38 pm
My GP's surgery has called me for a fasting blood sugar. I am not diabetic. Getting me to the surgery for this will, no doubt displease the partner.
I am minded to push my sugar down to the worrisome out of spite.
I am not nice.
I will aim for 2.9...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 10 November, 2015, 05:48:33 pm
You bad girl  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 11 November, 2015, 12:25:25 pm
I'm pretty sure I'm developing arthritis in my first metacarpalphalangeal joint on my non-dominant hand. I have a friend who is a hand therapist so I will ask her to look at it.
I am seeing the GP tomorrow. The joint is very painful and there's quite a lot of swelling and what might be new bone growth.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 11 November, 2015, 01:00:01 pm
The news recently talked about bowel cancer being linked to processed meats (salami etc).

Purely anecdotal evidence but here in Germany I know of three people with bowel cancer but in the UK none of my direct contacts have it. Here the consumption of sausage and salami etc is colossally high. So maybe.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 November, 2015, 01:38:13 pm
Broken filling/tooth. Again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 11 November, 2015, 02:01:13 pm
The news recently talked about bowel cancer being linked to processed meats (salami etc).

Purely anecdotal evidence but here in Germany I know of three people with bowel cancer but in the UK none of my direct contacts have it. Here the consumption of sausage and salami etc is colossally high. So maybe.

The wurst news.

IGMC...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 11 November, 2015, 02:09:24 pm
The news recently talked about bowel cancer being linked to processed meats (salami etc).

Purely anecdotal evidence but here in Germany I know of three people with bowel cancer but in the UK none of my direct contacts have it. Here the consumption of sausage and salami etc is colossally high. So maybe.

The wurst news.

IGMC...

I will put that post in my Spam folder.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 11 November, 2015, 06:23:34 pm
The news recently talked about bowel cancer being linked to processed meats (salami etc).

Purely anecdotal evidence but here in Germany I know of three people with bowel cancer but in the UK none of my direct contacts have it. Here the consumption of sausage and salami etc is colossally high. So maybe.

The wurst news.

IGMC...

I will put that post in my Spam folder.

Would you believe it on Speck?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ham on 11 November, 2015, 06:28:01 pm
I can't talk :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 11 November, 2015, 06:38:22 pm
A very long time ago, a primary school classmate's father died of bowel cancer.
He was a Kosher butcher.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 12 November, 2015, 09:46:23 am
Had 8am GP appointment, seen at about 10 past, GP sent electronic referral for Xray, wandered over to Lauriston building in time for 0830 opening, Xrays taken by 0855. Not bad, NHS, not bad. Now I just need to wait for the results.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 12 November, 2015, 10:54:27 am
A very long time ago, a primary school classmate's father died of bowel cancer.
He was a Kosher butcher.

My mum died of bowel cancer. She was a school cook.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 12 November, 2015, 07:37:25 pm
The right eye looks normal now and gets a bit sharper every day.  I can just about read small text with it now, although it needs a bit of a squint.  Still trying to avoid driving at night as there is a bit of a double image effect, although fog. glare and rainbows are already halved because the brain is mixing the sharp image from the foggy eye with the slightly blurred image from the clear eye.  Won't be able to tell whether I'll need glasses until about three months but, generally speaking, DSEK barely affects any optical prescription because you keep most of your factory cornea and any mis-shaping of the rear surface makes little difference to focus (the refractive index of the cornea isn't very different to that of the aqueous humour*; it's the cornea-to-air interface at the front that does nearly all the work).

*which is why you can't see clearly underwater; a cornea-to-water interface barely bends the incoming light rays, so you can't form a sharp image.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 13 November, 2015, 05:20:33 pm
The consultant copied me into his letter to my GP, and he suggested my hypochromic microcytic anaemia with a serum ferritin level of 10 might be due to 'intense physical exercise'.

My hols in Scotland didn't involve that much exercise, did they?  If they're going to stop me riding my bike I'm going to sulk quite a lot.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 13 November, 2015, 05:32:42 pm
The consultant copied me into his letter to my GP, and he suggested my hypochromic microcytic anaemia with a serum ferritin level of 10 might be due to 'intense physical exercise'.

My hols in Scotland didn't involve that much exercise, did they?  If they're going to stop me riding my bike I'm going to sulk quite a lot.

Sounds iron deficient to VERY non-expert me!

Can't tell if it's poor absorption as well as known (and unknown) losses.

I don't think you're mashing up your eythrocytes to a MASSIVE degree.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 November, 2015, 05:52:47 pm
Surely 'intense exercise' = being an Olympic athlete or training for several Ironman events a year, not just riding your bike a lot... ?

<apologies to you if you are in fact either of those things and I assumed wrongly you weren't > ;)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 13 November, 2015, 06:37:19 pm
I'm fairly sure 12 days of cycle touring round the Highlands doesn't count as 'intense exercise' ???

Perhaps your consultant thought you looked like an elite athlete :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 13 November, 2015, 09:15:10 pm
I'm fairly sure 12 days of cycle touring round the Highlands doesn't count as 'intense exercise' ???

Perhaps your consultant thought you looked like an elite athlete :)

Well you can't blame him for that, I suppose  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 17 November, 2015, 02:18:45 pm
Had 8am GP appointment, seen at about 10 past, GP sent electronic referral for Xray, wandered over to Lauriston building in time for 0830 opening, Xrays taken by 0855. Not bad, NHS, not bad. Now I just need to wait for the results.
I'm seeing the GP again on Thursday, and it can't come soon enough.

Took 2 paracetamol with breakfast. Took 2 ibuprofen 2 hours ago. Ten minutes ago I accidentally knocked the joint, not particularly hard, but it was sore enough that I felt sick and nearly cried. Had to get my colleague to get 2 more paracetamol out of the blister pack because doing it myself was too sore.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 17 November, 2015, 08:32:12 pm
Good news and bad news from the opthalmologist today.  The good news is that the corneal graft is completely stuck and there is no risk of it ever detaching now.  The bad news is (1) slightly high pressure in the eye, probably a reaction to the anti-rejection steroid drops.  He prescribed some drops to relieve the pressure and I am to start reducing the frequency of the anti-rejection drops now anyway.  (2) Slight cataract, a side-effect of the surgery due to the air bubble being inserted into the aqueous humour, which holds the graft in place for the first day or two but doesn't so the lens much good.  He's not too worried about it though.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 17 November, 2015, 09:37:07 pm
Good news and bad news from the opthalmologist today.  The good news is that the corneal graft is completely stuck and there is no risk of it ever detaching now.  The bad news is (1) slightly high pressure in the eye, probably a reaction to the anti-rejection steroid drops.  He prescribed some drops to relieve the pressure and I am to start reducing the frequency of the anti-rejection drops now anyway.  (2) Slight cataract, a side-effect of the surgery due to the air bubble being inserted into the aqueous humour, which holds the graft in place for the first day or two but doesn't so the lens much good.  He's not too worried about it though.

Yes that's great news Roger.  I've a slight cataract too, had it since I was born, doesn't bother me at all.

How's your vision now?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 18 November, 2015, 08:01:32 am
Not quite in focus but improving every day.  I think some of the astigmatism is pressure related because the anti pressure drops have made a massive improvement overnight.  I think I might get away without specs - will know in about a month.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 18 November, 2015, 08:57:46 pm
Dear Tesco The Pharmacist,

When I asked my husband to pick up some Lemsips for me on his way home from work I expected him to arrive with lemon flavoured cold remedies which, while not dealing with my runny nose can be made into a warm, comforting drink which deals adequately with the aches associated with my cold. I am exceedingly disappointed that you asked him for my symptoms, most of which he didn't know and then insisted he bought a pseudoephedrine based medicine in tablet form instead on the basis that I have a runny nose and a sore throat (I don't, he was guessing at that point).

I know the drug is working because I have a very dry mouth and throat and a thumping headache, still got a runny nose, still sneezing and my eyes are watering madly again. On the plus side Vernon's hot honey and lemon drink with a pinch of cinnamon is much nicer (and cheaper) than Lemsip so that's another thing we won't be buying from you again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 November, 2015, 09:38:24 pm
Is lemsip not basically just paracetamol, sugar and hot water?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 18 November, 2015, 09:40:25 pm
Is lemsip not basically just paracetamol, sugar and hot water?

Yeah, pretty much, but the smell is dead comforting and it's a nice hot drink with drugs in it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 November, 2015, 11:43:46 pm
Is lemsip not basically just paracetamol, sugar and hot water?

You forgot the citric acid...
... but yes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 18 November, 2015, 11:46:48 pm
Is lemsip not basically just paracetamol, sugar and hot water?

It's worse than that, it's liquid paracetamol.  That stuff is only okay after a general anaesthetic, and only because everything tastes like that after a GA.   :sick:


I prefer my paracetamol in capsules that can be swallowed quickly and efficiently with minimal tongue contact.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Clare on 19 November, 2015, 07:49:14 am
Is lemsip not basically just paracetamol, sugar and hot water?

Yeah, pretty much, but the smell is dead comforting and it's a nice hot drink with drugs in it  :thumbsup:

This.

Anyway we now have another useless box of drugs in the house, Vernon can't take Actifed because he has high blood pressure and I only use it in a dire emergency because it gives me a banging headache.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 19 November, 2015, 09:54:55 am
I remember my mum giving me lemsick when I was little and I hated it because it was so sweet. I made her put most of the contents of a Jif squeezy lemon into it before I would drink it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 19 November, 2015, 09:57:10 am
I actually like the bittersweetness of it.  It cuts through the yucky white film I get on my tongue when I'b god a code.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 November, 2015, 11:43:43 am
Lemon juice and honey in hot water contain no nasty DRUGS, but may minimally damage your teeth.
You could do worse.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 19 November, 2015, 01:02:36 pm
X-ray shows no bony abnormality. GP has no idea what is causing the pain and swelling, and oh, did I mention the PAIN? I'm trying diclofenac gel for 2 weeks and go back if not better.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 20 November, 2015, 08:32:18 pm
globus pharyngeus, absolutely sick of it
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: graculus on 23 November, 2015, 02:37:04 pm
Does anyone know of any charities that will accept unused and still packaged medical supplies (catheters and related gubbins) for re-use? Looking on line I can only find ones that take from suppliers or GPs.
Thanks
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 23 November, 2015, 03:12:48 pm
Grumble. I've spent today feeling hungover*, but I think I'm properly hydrated and I haven't drunk anything alcoholic for weeks ???

*Throbbing headache, lack of energy, not actually feeling sick though
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 23 November, 2015, 03:50:17 pm
Maybe you need a coffee...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 25 November, 2015, 01:17:32 pm
Eye has now improved to the point where my otherwise ineffctual reading glasses (+0.5 in the right eye) are almost enough to correct it.  It's odd to need convex lenses for distance but presumably the cornea is still a bit flattened by having an extra bit stuck onto the inside and the eye is focusing beyond infinity; it takes some effort to squeeze everything into sharp focus.  I just happen to have a Nikon +1 dioptre eyepiece for the F3 and this gives very good, if a tiny bit smeared* focus at all distances.  So I'll just get some cheapo glasses with +1 on the right and a plain lens on the left for now - they may only be useful for a short time, but will make driving at night possible without the out-of-focus distant headlights.  The opthalmologist said not to spend any proper money on glasses, especially as the left eye is going to be done in about April.

*there's bound to be some astigmatism - there are still stitches in the eyeball - but this should, in theory, be insignificant eventually.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 25 November, 2015, 02:13:37 pm
Is lemsip not basically just paracetamol, sugar and hot water?

It's worse than that, it's liquid paracetamol.  That stuff is only okay after a general anaesthetic, and only because everything tastes like that after a GA.   :sick:


I prefer my paracetamol in capsules that can be swallowed quickly and efficiently with minimal tongue contact.

Remember,,, f' ckoffs and colds, take lemsip.

IGMC.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 26 November, 2015, 04:50:22 pm
My GP's surgery has called me for a fasting blood sugar. I am not diabetic. Getting me to the surgery for this will, no doubt displease the partner.
I am minded to push my sugar down to the worrisome out of spite.
I am not nice.
I will aim for 2.9...

I FAILED to have a silly low blood sugar, probably because the sample was taken on the Monday morning after the AUK shindig weekend, during which I ate lotsandlots of foods.

Still, a fasting glucose of 4.7mmol/l would suggest I am not diabetic.
Which I knew anyway.

But boxes haves to be checked and
I live in Brent, which has a high incidence of Type 2 diabetes.
I am over 55.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ham on 03 December, 2015, 09:28:44 am
Dunno if anyone is interested - I was until I decided I wasn't ;o) - Sportpursuit have a deal on Tanita Body composition scales with the cheapest at £47 http://www.sportpursuit.com/sales/tanita-nov15

Apparently, these are accurate to measure percentage body fat using electrodes in the heels, and the expensive models have electrodes you hold to measure tummy fat.

If you aren't a member of Sportpursuit you can join with my link (http://www.sportpursuit.com/join/hamilton_095cea) or if you have a friend or rely get and use theirs if you prefer, if you ever buy anything the introducer gets £5 credit so someone ought to get it ;). They appear to have cut way back on their daily mails, too, but that may be because I haven't bought anything in a while.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 03 December, 2015, 09:56:12 am
I'm off for a vaginal ultrasound scan in a minute.  I'm actually quite excited.  It's the closest thing I've had to a date in years.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 03 December, 2015, 10:53:45 am
Manage your expectations Ruthie.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 December, 2015, 12:06:16 pm
I'm off for a vaginal ultrasound scan in a minute.  I'm actually quite excited.  It's the closest thing I've had to a date in years.
Is this POTD?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 03 December, 2015, 12:16:02 pm
I would hope the mods/Librarian have some discretion and taste...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 03 December, 2015, 12:31:26 pm
X-ray shows no bony abnormality. GP has no idea what is causing the pain and swelling, and oh, did I mention the PAIN? I'm trying diclofenac gel for 2 weeks and go back if not better.
Gel has reduced the soft tissue swelling, but the bony swelling and PAIN are still there. I'm going back to the GP next week.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 December, 2015, 01:44:09 pm
X-ray shows no bony abnormality. GP has no idea what is causing the pain and swelling, and oh, did I mention the PAIN? I'm trying diclofenac gel for 2 weeks and go back if not better.
Gel has reduced the soft tissue swelling, but the bony swelling and PAIN are still there. I'm going back to the GP next week.

Well don't go falling off your bike. Diclofenac kills vultures. ;)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 03 December, 2015, 06:24:10 pm
The contacts are in for my first trial day. This feels a little weird. Hopefully I won't end up in A&E this time :-[
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 03 December, 2015, 06:30:46 pm
The contacts are in for my first trial day. This feels a little weird. Hopefully I won't end up in A&E this time :-[

Think positive! 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 03 December, 2015, 06:34:32 pm
I think I'll be ok this time.

I know what went wrong last time and how I panicked. The same shouldn't happen again.

Hope your ultrasound went ok :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 03 December, 2015, 08:31:58 pm
A&E? Well better safe than sorry I guess.

I had a worrying bloodshot look one evening a couple of weeks ago, after a trainer session in the garage. I had my contacts in, it stayed after they were out but was gone the next morning. I suspect fatigue (long hours recently) was a factor and maybe raised blood circulation from the exercise. The motorbike trip home from work may have added to any stress levels as it was dark, and very busy on the M5.

I'm due a contact lens check up so I'll bring it up then I guess. I used the contacts again for riding the motorbike, to get to the rowing club, and did a very high intensity erg session, without any issues so I'm inclined to think it was tiredness.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 03 December, 2015, 10:12:54 pm
A&E? Well better safe than sorry I guess.

I had a worrying bloodshot look one evening a couple of weeks ago, after a trainer session in the garage. I had my contacts in, it stayed after they were out but was gone the next morning. I suspect fatigue (long hours recently) was a factor and maybe raised blood circulation from the exercise. The motorbike trip home from work may have added to any stress levels as it was dark, and very busy on the M5.

I'm due a contact lens check up so I'll bring it up then I guess. I used the contacts again for riding the motorbike, to get to the rowing club, and did a very high intensity erg session, without any issues so I'm inclined to think it was tiredness.


I scratched my eye trying to take them out a couple days in, then panicked because I thought the lens was still there. My eye swelled up and was very painful. I went to the Local NHS walk in centre about it after spending a night with frozen peas on my eye and I was sent up to A&E where they checked my eye with a slit lamp and treated the swelling (can't remember how). Hopefully I'll be better 8 years on.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 December, 2015, 08:35:00 am
Ah, sympathy.

I don't wear contacts because my eyes dry out. This can lead to contacts drying out. And sticking to your eyeball. You know this is really bad when the contact lens tears as you try to pull it off your eyeball.

Tip: if you are having trouble removing a contact lens, dribble some of the saline into your eye and slide the lens off the centre of your eyeball. It will be easier to 'pinch' the lens off then.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 05 December, 2015, 01:40:26 am
Also a good idea to keep your fingernails short!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 05 December, 2015, 09:02:49 am
Thanks. Yes fingernails are very short at present. I've also been taught to move the lens to the edge of my eye before pinching off so I'm unlikely to damage the lens.

Sequence: Touch lens with finger, look at nose, slide lens towards ear, remove with thumb and finger
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Peter on 05 December, 2015, 02:18:48 pm
Then replace ear, presumably?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 05 December, 2015, 02:28:29 pm
Only if preferred
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Peter on 05 December, 2015, 02:32:28 pm
A hard decision, given your current tribulations with the choir!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 09 December, 2015, 12:10:55 pm
Referred to hand clinic at St John's. No idea what the waiting times are.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: campagman on 12 December, 2015, 07:10:49 pm
I wrote on this thread a year ago about me going to an xmas party where I fainted. I hadn't fainted before and didn't find any reason why. I saw my GP and had blood test done, etc. The GP said that if this happens again we will need to look into it more and maybe stop me driving and cycling. Anyway, I have had no problems all year until I went to exactly the same party last night. I had stuffed my face with the party food and was stood talking when I became light heading and went down. I didn't drop as suddenly as last year and when I came round I was on my hands and knees. I knew that after eating the junk party food my blood sugar was high and maybe put it down to that, just like last year. I was thinking about it again today and just before fainting I was telling a guy about what happened to me last year. Did I talk myself into fainting?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 13 December, 2015, 12:41:54 am
I don't think you talked yourself into fainting though I'll never know.

Concentrated sugar and salt  need dilution before they can be absorbed. I wonder if your 'binge' has 'sucked' water from your bloodstream, leaving it underfilled.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: campagman on 13 December, 2015, 05:19:53 pm
I had drunk about 2/3 of my second pint at this time. Would that have helped to keep me hydrated.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 13 December, 2015, 06:28:36 pm
I have lurgy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 13 December, 2015, 06:46:50 pm
I had drunk about 2/3 of my second pint at this time. Would that have helped to keep me hydrated.

Possibly not. Alcohol is a diuretic. That's why, colloquially, drinking it can be described as 'getting pissed'. Quite often, even with dilute alcohol, eg in beer, you can lose more water than you gain.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 December, 2015, 10:40:18 am
Here's the thing. There is a 'managed' condition and 'treated'.

So, medication review today. What I was hoping for was a discussion about whether a different medication might be better or some other assistance. I'm currently missing about 1 day off every 2-3 weeks.
   
What I got was a blood pressure check.

Yes, I also have chronic gastric reflux. Currently that's making me speak like Tom Waits. So you suggest I take some Gaviscon before going to bed. Hmm, well, I say, last time I took that it was like pouring bicarb on vinegar.

I'm in the 'difficult' pigeonhole, aren't I? Not life-threatening conditions, just job-threatening.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 14 December, 2015, 11:22:55 am
I had drunk about 2/3 of my second pint at this time. Would that have helped to keep me hydrated.

Possibly not. Alcohol is a diuretic. That's why, colloquially, drinking it can be described as 'getting pissed'. Quite often, even with dilute alcohol, eg in beer, you can lose more water than you gain.

And in tropical climates, get seriously dehydrated and be taken to hospital after a booze up at the lakehouse.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 December, 2015, 12:47:39 pm
Here's the thing. There is a 'managed' condition and 'treated'.

So, medication review today. What I was hoping for was a discussion about whether a different medication might be better or some other assistance. I'm currently missing about 1 day off every 2-3 weeks.
   
What I got was a blood pressure check.


Fecking tick box, target-driven 'medicine'!
Check BP/blood sugar/cholesterol/weight of every fifty-something year old whatever the presenting problem.
Useful NOT!

BTDTGTTS
Sympathies!

<rant over>
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 December, 2015, 03:53:28 pm
And why oh why do I never have my symptoms when I'm actually act the doc or hospital?
Nothing this morning but now I'm all over the place.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 14 December, 2015, 04:02:48 pm
Next time I take my buggered shoulder to the doc I'm planning to scream "if it was a sore tooth I'd take it to the dentist and he'd FUCKING WELL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!"
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 December, 2015, 04:06:34 pm
Next time I take my buggered shoulder to the doc I'm planning to scream "if it was a sore tooth I'd take it to the dentist and he'd FUCKING WELL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!"
Cue doctor to lift SDS drill, tube of No More Nails and say "No problem sir, we can fix that. Now, where did you go on your holidays?"  Whiiiirrrrrrr <scream>
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 14 December, 2015, 04:09:24 pm
Hmmm. I suppose dentists do have a rather more direct approach.  Fed up with doc piling platitude on conjecture and doing SFA, though.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 14 December, 2015, 04:27:49 pm
Hmmm. I suppose dentists do have a rather more direct approach.  Fed up with doc piling platitude on conjecture and doing SFA, though.

The approach I hate the most is the, "Yes well, at your age - normal wear and tear - to be expected"

Just get me back on my bike!!!!!!

I know my measly 5 - 6000 km pa is nothing here, but it does seem to impress the GP.

Actually, I'm probably more in need of a psychiatrist than a GP to get me riding more atm.   :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 15 December, 2015, 07:26:35 am
I wrote on this thread a year ago about me going to an xmas party where I fainted. I hadn't fainted before and didn't find any reason why. I saw my GP and had blood test done, etc. The GP said that if this happens again we will need to look into it more and maybe stop me driving and cycling. Anyway, I have had no problems all year until I went to exactly the same party last night. I had stuffed my face with the party food and was stood talking when I became light heading and went down. I didn't drop as suddenly as last year and when I came round I was on my hands and knees. I knew that after eating the junk party food my blood sugar was high and maybe put it down to that, just like last year. I was thinking about it again today and just before fainting I was telling a guy about what happened to me last year. Did I talk myself into fainting?

Had you gone from sitting to standing, or made any sudden change on body position?

I get that occasionally, and can go light headed when standing up quickly.  Seems to be postural hypotension, which is not uncommon in fitter individuals with a low RHR. Essentially the BP doesn't catch up quick enough when you make those changes in posture.

Resulted in an ambulance when this happened shortly after my T1D diagnosis in case I was going into a massive hypo, even though the symptoms are completely different ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 15 December, 2015, 08:51:41 am
Hmmm. I suppose dentists do have a rather more direct approach.  Fed up with doc piling platitude on conjecture and doing SFA, though.

The approach I hate the most is the, "Yes well, at your age - normal wear and tear - to be expected"

Just get me back on my bike!!!!!!

I know my measly 5 - 6000 km pa is nothing here, but it does seem to impress the GP.

Actually, I'm probably more in need of a psychiatrist than a GP to get me riding more atm.   :(

Hah. A chum who had apparent narcolepsy visited a sleep specialist who thought that anyone cycling 100 km in a day needed to see a psychiatrist, 20 km being enough for anybody. When chum laughed in his face he got shirty and threatened to stop him driving.  It turned out that the "narcolepsy" was caused by GP prescribing two different antidepressants at the same time.

Why is the slang for psychiatrist trick-cyclist?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 15 December, 2015, 10:03:43 am
My lurgy is the office lurgy. At least 20 of us have the same thing - we all started with a nasty hacking cough on Friday night which continued all through Saturday, Sunday we all started to sneeze, and have headaches, Monday was a mixture of all of it with the coughs becoming productive, and today we're all weak, dizzy, hoarse, shivery and snotty. Something in the water, or David Cameron trying to kill us all off?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 December, 2015, 10:38:44 am
Something in the air conditioning water, or David Cameron trying to kill us all off?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 15 December, 2015, 12:24:10 pm
It's like part 1 of The Stand.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 15 December, 2015, 02:18:26 pm
You've actually just made me think. This winter (so far) we've had just about no bugs going round the office, for the first time since I started working here seven years ago.

I don't think that it's coincidence that this is also the first winter in our shiny new Portakabin Office building, rather than the condemned, damp and dingy old one :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: campagman on 15 December, 2015, 05:40:13 pm

Had you gone from sitting to standing, or made any sudden change on body position?

I get that occasionally, and can go light headed when standing up quickly.  Seems to be postural hypotension, which is not uncommon in fitter individuals with a low RHR. Essentially the BP doesn't catch up quick enough when you make those changes in posture.

No, I had been standing and chatting for a few mins. I'm still going with the idea that i may have talked myself into it. I was telling somebody all about what happened last year. I remember when I came round (this year) my biggest worry was other damage had I done. When I collapsed last year I hurt something in my chest which was quite painful for the following two weeks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 December, 2015, 09:31:16 pm
Off work again today. Was really struggling yesterday, without stick I would have fallen several times on the way home. Weaving down the corridors at work, I'm sure some people think I'm drunk.

After about 4 hours in a dark room got up and fired up the computer. Then managed to impress myself with how much work I got through, despite a distinctly weirded out head. Still counts as a 'sick' day, though.

The doc may have me in the 'managed' pigeonhole, but taking a day off sick every 2-3 weeks can't go on forever. Wish I'd been eligible for the company's standard bupa scheme now, despite the cost.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 16 December, 2015, 07:20:29 am
People don’t take time off sick with colds, flu or sick bugs where I work. They bring them in and spread them round. Frequent sickness absence is justification for written warnings.
In order to keep a ‘clean record’, the people sit at their desks sneezing, coughing, blowing their snotty noses and run to the lavvy when needs must.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 16 December, 2015, 07:29:28 am
Our club prez is like that.  He once called a committee meeting and infected everyone present.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 December, 2015, 12:05:17 pm
Partner has caught cold from someone who said would not give him their cold.
He is feeling sorry for himself and FURIOUS.
I might be mildly affected but I suffer little from these things.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 16 December, 2015, 12:31:48 pm
Bored of lying awake at night coughing up your lungs? Add an exciting Russian Roulette element by developing diarrhoea too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 December, 2015, 12:34:47 pm
Award yourself the OBE.
Open Both Ends

Get Well Soon!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 16 December, 2015, 02:54:25 pm
Wondering how long I need keep wearing these lenses which are giving me a sore left eye till I query them with Weird-Optiquack... They've added a prism to the left eye but it's actually sore... I think I want a refund if these don't work.

Last pair in October ffs only took 1 day of discomfort and they were fine the next day... 

:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 December, 2015, 03:19:27 pm
It really shouldn't take long (although your adaption might be slower than mine).
Go back and get them to check, methinks. Lenses are dear.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 December, 2015, 03:31:16 pm
I am no optic/ophthalmic expert but I'd imagine a prism adds a huge pile of adaptive strain on the eye muscles compared to plain refractive tweaks.

I don't always do refractive tweaks quickly but prisms presumably shift the focal point...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 16 December, 2015, 05:38:30 pm
Internet optometry websites seem to suggest two weeks, problem is that hits right into Xmas :(  I think I'll give it till Friday and email Mr Weirdo even though I really don't want to :(  I'm rapidly running out of tolerance for "trying things out" and don't really want more meddling with my vision as my last lenses are definitely OK... 

One issue is going to be getting a refund for these if their dodgy (and I really don't trust the guy) or making work pay for it anyway which I think they should on principle as I hadn't urgently needed behavioural optometry advice before newofficeTM.

Feel like I'm pouring money down the toilet along with sanity and getting nothing but eyestrain for my efforts.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 December, 2015, 05:43:05 pm
Can Kim check centricity and alignment for you?
I wish you luck...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 16 December, 2015, 09:20:41 pm
Kim sorted them when I first started wearing them and they're as straight on my face as my face gets... Think it's just bear it out for a few more days and then either email the dodgy optiquack or revert back to other spex and run away very fast...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 December, 2015, 04:49:33 pm
Well things are not improving. I've even taken the step of saying so to the company HR department and asked for help (in a roundabout way).

MrsC, consulting DrGoogle (yes, I know, bad idea) came across this:
http://www.migrainetrust.org/research-article-basilar-type-migraine-2012-15147 (http://www.migrainetrust.org/research-article-basilar-type-migraine-2012-15147)

Now I was told by the consultant that they are trying 'diagnosis by treatment'; in other words, they are going to try common treatment regimes for vestibular migraines and see if they work. They aren't. I've been in a bad way since Saturday with almost no letup.

So I'd say the diagnosis is negative. Basilar migraines actually match my symptoms more closely, and wouldn't be 100% sorted by the drugs I've been taking.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 18 December, 2015, 06:38:28 am
MrC.

Have you investigated some accupunture treatment?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 December, 2015, 08:25:45 am
No and I'm loath to experiment.

Edit - I have a colleague who has severe migraines of the classic type. She is getting acupuncture and finding it is helping.

At this stage I want more investigation and less experimentation.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 18 December, 2015, 09:06:35 pm
At this stage I want more investigation and less experimentation.

Ditto. I totes get you on the experimenting and unclue...  Hope you are able to get some more sensible answers soonest!

I was made to try acupuncture for vertigo issues in my teens, if anything I found it made me worse and I have refused to have anything to do with it since as I don't honestly think it is credible enough to be worth the effort and risks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 21 December, 2015, 12:00:20 am
waking up and suddenly a heart rate around 130 bpm, or more! Muscles tensed and totally aware of it. could be 5 minutes or 50 minutes, I can't figure that part of it,  and, when it's calmed down, the rest of the day is a new and mighty headache, aching arms and legs. I have vague memories in my head of Adrenal and Cortisol stuff. I will try and see doctor as this has been 3 days in a row and I'm starting to get worried.
Anybody got an idea of what it might be?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 December, 2015, 12:21:27 am
waking up and suddenly a heart rate around 130 bpm, or more! Muscles tensed and totally aware of it. could be 5 minutes or 50 minutes, I can't figure that part of it,  and, when it's calmed down, the rest of the day is a new and mighty headache, aching arms and legs. I have vague memories in my head of Adrenal and Cortisol stuff. I will try and see doctor as this has been 3 days in a row and I'm starting to get worried.
Anybody got an idea of what it might be?

Not really but needs urgent investigation.
Hope you get sorted soon!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 21 December, 2015, 10:56:27 pm
Thought I'd check my BP as I've not done it for a while.

125/80. That's tolerable. I see the new 'ideal' is 115/75, so mildly elevated, but not a worry.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 December, 2015, 01:41:24 pm
I think the "ideal" varies with the drug producers' balance sheets.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 January, 2016, 01:52:04 pm
Last ride was 30th Dec.  Had severe angina and haven't dared since. Cardiologist Thursday. :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 03 January, 2016, 02:00:50 pm
Last ride was 30th Dec.  Had severe angina and haven't dared since. Cardiologist Thursday. :(

Eeek!
I wish you well!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: orejas on 06 January, 2016, 09:53:08 pm
Woke up on Dec 28th with severe back pain, in between the shoulderblades. Never experienced it before and cannot think of a reason ( meaning cannot recall twisting or lifting or any sort of twinge). Cannot lay flat on the bed but it gets better as the day goes on. Had a sports massage and got marinally better but had to sleep on the floor for a couple of days, now graduated to sleeping on a futon. Question is, do I bother going to the doc or do I not bother until it happens again (hopefully it does not)?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 07 January, 2016, 11:05:36 am
Last ride was 30th Dec.  Had severe angina and haven't dared since. Cardiologist Thursday. :(

Eeek!
I wish you well!

Thanks Helly.  Stress test this afternoon.  I'm just beginning to panic.

BTW, the progression of this inconvenience has been interesting:

August, PBP, felt grand all the way (apart from the sleepy side).
November: Heart hurting at top of climbs
December 9th: Angina during climbs until after 50 km
December 30th: Angina on most of ride

In 2007 I did PBP followed by Mt. Ventoux a month later. In Nov. 2007 a stress ECG showed ST depression over 150 bpm. In December two coffees would give me slight angina and they stented me in March.

Maybe it's PBP's that's doing it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 January, 2016, 11:10:56 am
Woke up on Dec 28th with severe back pain, in between the shoulderblades. Never experienced it before and cannot think of a reason ( meaning cannot recall twisting or lifting or any sort of twinge). Cannot lay flat on the bed but it gets better as the day goes on. Had a sports massage and got marinally better but had to sleep on the floor for a couple of days, now graduated to sleeping on a futon. Question is, do I bother going to the doc or do I not bother until it happens again (hopefully it does not)?
There is actually very little the doc can do.
If you can get a swiss ball then sitting on that will help.

A basketball or football can be used for upper back. Stand back to a wall, about 1.5times ball diameter away. Place ball behind you, a little below where the pain is (say, a little less than the ball diameter). Lean on the ball. Carefully bend your knees, leaning on the ball, until the ball roll up past the painful bit. Straighten knees and repeat for a while.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 January, 2016, 09:07:23 am
Last ride was 30th Dec.  Had severe angina and haven't dared since. Cardiologist Thursday. :(

Eeek!
I wish you well!

Thanks Helly.  Stress test this afternoon.  I'm just beginning to panic.
...

Aye well, the stress ECG was OK but I developed the "angina" during it so the cardiologist wants an angiography & a coronography.  He did agree with my suggestion that it was probably due to acid reflux (test after lunch followed by clementines and 2 espressos, same as last week's ride) but when I said "so I can get back into training then" he made a face like a prune and said no.

I'm going to see what my GP says to that (in this neck of the woods you don't get fobbed off with a nursie-know-it-all, you get the genuine article for 15 whole minutes) and follow his advice.  All the same a coronography means a few days off while the artery reseals and a general air of doubt until I've had it so my Easter flèche is off.

Bugger.

Still, better that than a bypass.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 08 January, 2016, 09:20:22 am
Woke up on Dec 28th with severe back pain, in between the shoulderblades. Never experienced it before and cannot think of a reason ( meaning cannot recall twisting or lifting or any sort of twinge). Cannot lay flat on the bed but it gets better as the day goes on. Had a sports massage and got marinally better but had to sleep on the floor for a couple of days, now graduated to sleeping on a futon. Question is, do I bother going to the doc or do I not bother until it happens again (hopefully it does not)?
There is actually very little the doc can do.
If you can get a swiss ball then sitting on that will help.

A basketball or football can be used for upper back. Stand back to a wall, about 1.5times ball diameter away. Place ball behind you, a little below where the pain is (say, a little less than the ball diameter). Lean on the ball. Carefully bend your knees, leaning on the ball, until the ball roll up past the painful bit. Straighten knees and repeat for a while.

I wouldn't do that in the acute phase, wait till it's calmed down a bit.  Football/basketball may be a bit big, something nearer tennis ball size and hardness tends to allow more local pressure and deeper pressure.

Also if you can find one, a physio/sports injury specialist who might be able to see if there is any underlying imbalance causing this.  Lower back pain as an example is often a symptom of something like tight calves, hamstrings, or over developed quads etc.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 08 January, 2016, 11:45:02 am
I've been talking to someone at work - they've had two Transient Global Amnesia attacks in recent times.

The really weird thing is they were able to carry on coding whilst in the middle of an attack. The code was ok, too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 January, 2016, 12:21:38 pm
a nursie-know-it-all
Wow.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 08 January, 2016, 01:57:39 pm
a nursie-know-it-all
Wow.

Some Nurse Practitioners are excellent.
Others have opinions beyond their knowledge and education.
But the same is true for doctors.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 January, 2016, 02:31:33 pm
a nursie-know-it-all
Wow.

Some Nurse Practitioners are excellent.
Others have opinions beyond their knowledge and education.
But the same is true for doctors.

Only going on stories from the UK. We haven't got that kind of system here.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 08 January, 2016, 02:45:21 pm
Some Nurse Practitioners are excellent.
Others have opinions beyond their knowledge and education.

Oh the arguments I've had with my sister (a nurse) about bike helmets...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 08 January, 2016, 02:50:50 pm
Some Nurse Practitioners are excellent.
Others have opinions beyond their knowledge and education.

Oh the arguments I've had with my sister (a nurse) about bike helmets...

Well, BHIT was founded by a nurse who doesn't cycle (or acknowledge any anti-helmet research)...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: IJL on 08 January, 2016, 03:59:16 pm
Quote
Oh the arguments I've had with my sister (a nurse) about bike helmets...

Oddly enough i'm a Nurse practitioner and I've had a few similar arguments with Dr's, an almost religious faiith in polystyrene hats is very common.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 08 January, 2016, 05:59:10 pm
Some Nurse Practitioners are excellent.
Others have opinions beyond their knowledge and education.

Oh the arguments I've had with my sister (a nurse) about bike helmets...

My sister is a nurse. She doesn't much care about me going out on my bike without a helmet, or racing time trials for that matter.

If I'm killed, she inherits half my house.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 08 January, 2016, 06:25:10 pm
wait til you get into a "discussion" with a (specialist) nurse practitioner in diabetes who insists that your plate needs to include decent amounts of starchy carbohydrates.

Their faces do some interesting things when you tell them "I've adopted a low carbohydrate, high fat diet and I feel great and my blood sugars are better than ever"
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 08 January, 2016, 08:14:07 pm
Some people have minds like trains and must not/cannot be derailed.

I am neither a diabetic nor a diabetologist but believe both glycaemic load and glycaemic index need addressing.

Partner's diabetic father reports that for him unpeeled potatoes are benign but rice is as wicked as sugar. And there is a lot of OCD in that family...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 08 January, 2016, 08:18:16 pm
Rice, and most breads are sugar spiking little ba$tards. Potatoes though, curiously not.

And cake, OK if accompanied by cycling.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 08 January, 2016, 08:20:00 pm
Rice, and most breads are sugar spiking little ba$tards. Potatoes though, curiously not.

Interestingly, that's not my experience. Maybe depends on the manner of the cooking; mashed potato really spikes my blood sugar (and I'm not diabetic).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 08 January, 2016, 08:23:43 pm
Partner's father has jacket potatoes and boiled white rice I believe.

I did include the words 'for him'...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 08 January, 2016, 09:06:26 pm
Rice, and most breads are sugar spiking little ba$tards. Potatoes though, curiously not.

Interestingly, that's not my experience. Maybe depends on the manner of the cooking; mashed potato really spikes my blood sugar (and I'm not diabetic).

It is all entirely down to personal experience, matching rate of rise to insulin dose and timing is the tricky bit
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 08 January, 2016, 09:50:48 pm
Then there's brother's diabetic pin-thin MIL, who can eat sweetcorn with impunity...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 09 January, 2016, 04:04:28 pm
I am stuck in hospital again😢 . I went into retention around 5.30 and as I arose from the throne my lower back went  into spasm . I managed to drag myself through the house and knock the patio doors open and woke the neighbour who called the ambulance.. So I am stuck in hospital with a cathier and rattling with pain medicine for my back  ::-). I will be here at least overnight . bother !.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 January, 2016, 05:21:40 pm
I am stuck in hospital again😢 . I went into retention around 5.30 and as I arose from the throne my lower back went  into spasm . I managed to drag myself through the house and knock the patio doors open and woke the neighbour who called the ambulance.. So I am stuck in hospital with a cathier and rattling with pain medicine for my back  ::-). I will be here at least overnight . bother !.

Get well soon!

Hope they get pain meds & bladder sorted PDQ!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 09 January, 2016, 05:49:48 pm
Get well soon cycleman.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Jurek on 09 January, 2016, 05:58:57 pm
Wishing you a swift recovery, C.

J
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 09 January, 2016, 05:59:40 pm
That's more than a bit rubbish.  Hope they're giving you the good drugs at least.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 09 January, 2016, 06:00:34 pm
Ouch Cycleman! Hope they sort you out and are able to discharge you soonest!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 09 January, 2016, 06:41:05 pm
They plan to stick me into a MRI tube for a hour tomorrow before pulling the cathier out and seeing what happens  :o
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 January, 2016, 09:06:16 pm
I hope it starts getting better for you soon, Cycleman.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 09 January, 2016, 10:20:36 pm
They plan to stick me into a MRI tube for a hour tomorrow before pulling the cathier out and seeing what happens  :o
Better than "They plan to stick an MRI tube into me for an hour......"

Get thee  Fettled Cyclemanski.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 10 January, 2016, 06:39:28 am
Thanks everyone :thumbsup: .they start early here tea and porridge are being served and it is still dark  :o
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 10 January, 2016, 01:18:41 pm
And the exciting times continue . the doctor has not been round to sort out the errors in the meds they are giving me and it seems that it unlikely that I will see the inside of a tube today as it is a day of   sloth ,oh sorry I mean rest . on the bright side I have enjoyed a healthy tuna salad with a banana for pudding followed by a nice cup of tea . I wonder what exciting things will occur this afternoon ☺
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 10 January, 2016, 03:25:47 pm
Suspect little will happen if you are undistressed and they are busy dealing with Distressed Gentlefolk...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: perpetual dan on 10 January, 2016, 04:02:59 pm
Good luck with the tubes cycleman.

A much more minor grumble -  I seem to have been hit with the slothful "meh" stick. Miss Dan the Elder, who is a teenager and doesn't really do weekend mornings, came to tell me it was time to get up at 1215 today.  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: orejas on 10 January, 2016, 05:17:07 pm
Woke up on Dec 28th with severe back pain, in between the shoulderblades. Never experienced it before and cannot think of a reason ( meaning cannot recall twisting or lifting or any sort of twinge). Cannot lay flat on the bed but it gets better as the day goes on. Had a sports massage and got marinally better but had to sleep on the floor for a couple of days, now graduated to sleeping on a futon. Question is, do I bother going to the doc or do I not bother until it happens again (hopefully it does not)?
There is actually very little the doc can do.
If you can get a swiss ball then sitting on that will help.


Thanks for the replies. Saw osteopath yesterday, a bit better last night. Hopefully it keeps improving, it really only troubles me at night.
Joaquin

A basketball or football can be used for upper back. Stand back to a wall, about 1.5times ball diameter away. Place ball behind you, a little below where the pain is (say, a little less than the ball diameter). Lean on the ball. Carefully bend your knees, leaning on the ball, until the ball roll up past the painful bit. Straighten knees and repeat for a while.

I wouldn't do that in the acute phase, wait till it's calmed down a bit.  Football/basketball may be a bit big, something nearer tennis ball size and hardness tends to allow more local pressure and deeper pressure.

Also if you can find one, a physio/sports injury specialist who might be able to see if there is any underlying imbalance causing this.  Lower back pain as an example is often a symptom of something like tight calves, hamstrings, or over developed quads etc.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: billplumtree on 10 January, 2016, 07:35:09 pm
The trapped nerve in my neck, which has stopped me from cycling, walking, or doing owt much at all for the last two years, seems to have resolved itself.  Dunno why I got it in the first place, nor why it went away - doing my usual yoga class before christmas, Something Happened at one point to make it better down my left hand side (where the pain was all along), but suddenly worse down the right (where it wasn't).

Over a couple of weeks, the worse bit gradually improved and went away completely, and the better bit stayed better.  A decent gym session last Friday, a 3 hour ride yesterday and a 3 hour walk on the fells today and all seems to be well.  I think I'm better  :D

Now, just the small matter of 2 years-worth of lost fitness to catch up on.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 10 January, 2016, 08:34:37 pm
I had a sardine salad for supper and peach slices for pudding and am now enjoying the ambience of ward 11   :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Polar Bear on 10 January, 2016, 08:37:51 pm
Best wishes Chris.   
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 10 January, 2016, 08:39:41 pm
Good News Bill. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 10 January, 2016, 08:58:59 pm
I had a sardine salad for supper and peach slices for pudding and am now enjoying the ambience of ward 11   :)

Are you getting the urology "lashings and lashings of tea" treatment?  (For best effect, this comes when you're trying to sleep.)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 11 January, 2016, 07:03:22 am
Then there's brother's diabetic pin-thin MIL, who can eat sweetcorn with impunity...

When God gave mankind sweetcorn, he came back a week later and exclaimed "For heaven's sake. Your supposed to put it on a hook and catch fish."
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 11 January, 2016, 08:57:08 am
I had a sardine salad for supper and peach slices for pudding and am now enjoying the ambience of ward 11   :)

Are you getting the urology "lashings and lashings of tea" treatment?  (For best effect, this comes when you're trying to sleep.)
No just water and three small cups of tea during the day . seeing as I drink my tea out of a liter mugs at home and I am not fond of plain water thing's could be better :) .
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 11 January, 2016, 02:18:53 pm
I had a sardine salad for supper and peach slices for pudding and am now enjoying the ambience of ward 11   :)

Are you getting the urology "lashings and lashings of tea" treatment?  (For best effect, this comes when you're trying to sleep.)
No just water and three small cups of tea during the day . seeing as I drink my tea out of a liter mugs at home and I am not fond of plain water thing's could be better :) .

But could also be worse.

I ended up on a urology ward due to bed availability when my gallbladder rebelled (they thought it was pancreatitis at the time).  I hate tea, could barely keep fluids down, and hadn't slept for days, so fending off the must-top-up-the-bladder tea brigade every five minutes caused a sense of humour malfunction.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Peter on 11 January, 2016, 02:38:14 pm
The trapped nerve in my neck, which has stopped me from cycling, walking, or doing owt much at all for the last two years, seems to have resolved itself.  Dunno why I got it in the first place, nor why it went away - doing my usual yoga class before christmas, Something Happened at one point to make it better down my left hand side (where the pain was all along), but suddenly worse down the right (where it wasn't).

Over a couple of weeks, the worse bit gradually improved and went away completely, and the better bit stayed better.  A decent gym session last Friday, a 3 hour ride yesterday and a 3 hour walk on the fells today and all seems to be well.  I think I'm better  :D

Now, just the small matter of 2 years-worth of lost fitness to catch up on.

Great news, Bill.  We've benefitted from your photography in the meantime!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 11 January, 2016, 07:44:04 pm
At 4.00pm I was seen by the uroligist after the ward nurse had made a fuss  ::-) .the uroligist has said that they will remove  the cathier in the morning and I am hoping my plumbing works  :). The neurology side are now saying that I do not need a MRI scan so If all goes well I might escape tomorrow afternoon or Wednesday ☺
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 13 January, 2016, 10:14:39 pm
I know I am blessed with a small waist but whenever was a 34" waist on a woman 'slim'?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35280028 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35280028)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 14 January, 2016, 08:04:17 am
It depends how tall she is.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 January, 2016, 08:23:05 am
I suspect
Quote
Asian genes dictate that fat is laid down in the abdominal area.
is a clue.

She might have a profile that looks 'slim' if viewed from the front, but viewed from the side looks to have significant belly fat.

As always, the pinch test can tell us a lot, as long as we are honest with ourselves.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 14 January, 2016, 09:07:47 am
I suspect
Quote
Asian genes dictate that fat is laid down in the abdominal area.
is a clue.

She might have a profile that looks 'slim' if viewed from the front, but viewed from the side looks to have significant belly fat.

As always, the pinch test can tell us a lot, as long as we are honest with ourselves.

The trouble with self honesty of pinch tests, is its not easy to get to the Sub-scapular test point.
A three point test can be performed, which can be achieved with a little contortionism, but the quickie is the Suprailiac, as long as the tester ( self ) knows exactly where to pinch. A fair deal of 'cheating' can be done by choosing a point closer to the navel than the hip.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 14 January, 2016, 07:16:46 pm
I am home and have a cathier fitted with a leg bag . they are planning to remove it at heatherwood hospital in Ascot teach me to self cathieris twice a day for a couple of weeks then only I go into retention again. The the next stage will be pressure test's of the bowels and bladder .once these are done they are saying that they should be able to prevent any future retention with the correct procedure . I am hoping that they are right of course  ::-)  :)
 With this leg bag cathier I cannot use my trike  :'( so I have got my little mobility scooter repaired so I can escape into the fully fresh air .  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 14 January, 2016, 07:56:21 pm
Sorry to hear you've got to faff about with catheterising stuff for a while, hope it's not too long and they are indeed able to fix what is causing the problem.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 January, 2016, 08:29:14 pm
pressure test's of the bowels and bladder
That sounds excruciating
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 January, 2016, 10:39:43 pm
My Dad self-catheterises four times per day and is happy doing this.
He is bag-free.

Of course everyone's needs are different but self catheterising seems no great shakes for him.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 14 January, 2016, 11:12:01 pm
I know I am blessed with a small waist but whenever was a 34" waist on a woman 'slim'?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35280028 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35280028)

Who'd a thunk it? Swamp your system with high GI carbs day in, day out, work your pancreas to death, lay down masses of fat (insulin prevents effective fat metabolism) and wonder why your T2 risk goes up.

In one way, fat excepted, I wonder if the very high carb diet is what did for Sir Steve, and am surprised that pro cyclists do not end up T2
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: graculus on 15 January, 2016, 08:36:23 am
My Dad self-catheterises four times per day and is happy doing this.
Ditto my Dad. It is largely about motivation - being fitted with catheter and bag would impede some of his activities (cycling to get his paper, playing tennis, skip-diving for firewood - all the things 86 year olds normally get up to)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 15 January, 2016, 08:57:36 am
It's funny how we can normalise these things given sufficient motivation

I'd never have imagined sticking a pin in myself up to ten times a day 3 years ago, and changing a cannula every three days.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 15 January, 2016, 10:01:10 am
I fell off (low-sided) more than 4 months ago, landing squarely on my hip - followed by knee and elbow and sundry other bit's.  Everything has healed up, but the hip STILL feels bruised when I poke it lie on it in bed  >:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 15 January, 2016, 01:09:37 pm
My Dad self-catheterises four times per day and is happy doing this.
Ditto my Dad. It is largely about motivation - being fitted with catheter and bag would impede some of his activities (cycling to get his paper, playing tennis, skip-diving for firewood - all the things 86 year olds normally get up to)

My 85 year old Dad does not get up to these things but still seems happy to be unencumbered between toilet trips.
AIUI my uncle who is the same age has a permanent catheter which is spigoted and periodically released.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 15 January, 2016, 01:11:27 pm
Lucky me. Seems I also have cystitis. Can't decide whether to go to the doctors here (I will have to pay) or just hope it goes away. It's not too painful, fortunately, but I have a little blood in my urine. I've had it before a few times.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 15 January, 2016, 01:17:19 pm
Try flushing it away with 4 pints of squash in 4 hours.

See a doctor if it's not clear after that.

IMO it's easier to drink squash than water.

Don't refill your pint glass till you've had your first pee to help prevent water intoxication.

GWS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 15 January, 2016, 01:34:29 pm
Thanks. The doctors here are all closed so it'll have to be the emergency doctor (more complication) tomorrow if it gets worse.

I don't drink squash but am fine with water. Have had my first half litre!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 15 January, 2016, 02:10:30 pm
Cystitis, like hearing aid malfunction, has an uncanny knack of happening on weekends and bank holidays....
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 15 January, 2016, 02:22:01 pm
Cystitis, like hearing aid malfunction, has an uncanny knack of happening on weekends and bank holidays bike rides....
Or is that just me?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 15 January, 2016, 02:35:54 pm
I just had the clever idea of going out with the dog for the 25 minute round walk. 10 minutes before the end it was getting pretty desperate (I had drunk a litre of water before setting off) and I ran up the stairs to my flat like greased lightning...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 15 January, 2016, 02:38:39 pm
Cystitis, like hearing aid malfunction, has an uncanny knack of happening on weekends and bank holidays bike rides....
Or is that just me?

Not just you.  I bailed out of the Exmouth Exodus[1] a couple of years back when my pre-start pee was distinctly the wrong colour.  (And then foolishly stranded myself in Bristol by assuming there would be trains on a Saturday evening.)  But I usually find it happens immediately after bike rides, especially those that involve  a) saddles  and  b) not drinking enough.

I note that bike rides also frequently occur at weekends and bank holidays...


[1] A ride that I'd have several counts of Unfinished Business with, if I hadn't actually completed it with Team Slow in 2011.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 15 January, 2016, 02:46:06 pm
Nope happens to me as well.  Insulin pump malfunctions always happen at weekends or middle of the night.

Mass cannula recalls when I'm in France for the week and then heading off to Aberdeen the following Monday.

Cannula site that won't stop bleeding? Tuesday 6:30pm just when I was about to go for a turbo session - solved by quantities of surgical tape, but didn't look pretty.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 15 January, 2016, 02:53:23 pm
Cystitis, like hearing aid malfunction, has an uncanny knack of happening on weekends and bank holidays bike rides....
Or is that just me?

After one Valentine's weekend, I was rewarded with the theft of my bicycle and cystitis.
A romantic double whammy...

It's no fun trailing round bike shops when you're pissing bloody daggers every 20 minutes...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 15 January, 2016, 05:37:28 pm
Well four hours of lots of water and visits to the loo every 15 minutes seem to have helped a lot. Less burning (although it wasn't bad to start with) and only a tiny trace of blood. I am reducing the water now to 250ml post pee (I was drinking 400ml post-pee earlier) and I hope it will all settle down. I feel OK in myself.

I suspect my long ride yesterday in waterproof trousers and then sitting around for an hour in my sweaty knickers before I got home for a shower was a significant contributor!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 15 January, 2016, 06:49:16 pm
Glad you're a bit better! Stop drinking a couple of hours before bedtime but start your day with a BIG mug of coffee tomorrow, then see how you go.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 16 January, 2016, 07:21:31 am
I fell off (low-sided) more than 4 months ago, landing squarely on my hip - followed by knee and elbow and sundry other bit's.  Everything has healed up, but the hip STILL feels bruised when I poke it lie on it in bed  >:(

I had a similar experience a few years ago.   Apparently it is called a Bursa and was sore for a year or so I was threatened with a steroid injection so just shut up.   it is better now about 3 years later.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 January, 2016, 01:04:39 pm
I fell off (low-sided) more than 4 months ago, landing squarely on my hip - followed by knee and elbow and sundry other bit's.  Everything has healed up, but the hip STILL feels bruised when I poke it lie on it in bed  >:(

I had a similar experience a few years ago.   Apparently it is called a Bursa and was sore for a year or so I was threatened with a steroid injection so just shut up.   it is better now about 3 years later.
A Bursa is part of your body - a cushioning pad. They are found in most joints, but I'm not aware of one on the outside of the hip.

A haematoma is a local swelling caused by internal bleeding. They vary from being a spectacular bruise with swelling to a huge blood-filled lump.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 January, 2016, 01:16:06 pm
There is the trochanteric bursa which often takes a hit when a cyclist lands on the hip, sometimes causing a bleed.

Still, that's preferable to a hip fracture.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 16 January, 2016, 03:10:38 pm
There is the trochanteric bursa which often takes a hit when a cyclist lands on the hip, sometimes causing a bleed.

Still, that's preferable to a hip fracture.

Thanks Helly that was the one, and the bruise was spectacular.   Hip to knee, almost,  and my thigh was fairly swollen.  enough to make me ice averse.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 January, 2016, 04:36:34 pm
Cyclists do seem to land on their hips in ice, snow or diesel...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 19 January, 2016, 08:59:25 pm
My blood pressure has dropped 10 points and is now 115/65.  I'm not any fitter so this is rather odd.  I am on latanoprost eye drops (to counter the IOP-raising effect of dexamethasone drops*) and the opthalmologist says they may have a very mild beta-blocker effect  Haven't noticed any slowing down on the bike, though.

*it works - measured today, the untreated left eye was 12mmHg and so was the right eye, which has had an oceanful of eyedrops over the last three months - it was a slightly worrying 28 before they put me on latanoprost.  Give it another few months and I should be off the lot.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 19 January, 2016, 10:19:46 pm
Great news Roger, hope the eye keeps up that super healing. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: geraldc on 20 January, 2016, 01:13:27 pm
After years of drinking Diet Coke and sucking on sugar free sweets, I'm going to be giving up most artificial sweeteners due to their effects on gut bacteria and the reported knock on effects. I've never actually had any digestive problems, but after having finally done the reading, I feel like I've been a human lab rat for most of my life. I'm amazed after years of defending artificial sweeteners as safe, I'm finally giving it up.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 January, 2016, 01:18:05 pm
Good luck Gerald!
I'm very sceptical myself about these claims about artificial sweeteners, at least for me. Around three diet colas per month doesn't really equate to the huge quantities in the experiments.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 January, 2016, 01:19:51 pm
There is the trochanteric bursa which often takes a hit when a cyclist lands on the hip, sometimes causing a bleed.

I thought a trochanter was part of a set of bagpipes until I fell off my bike.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 January, 2016, 02:16:47 pm
No 'tro' in bagpipes AFAIK...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 20 January, 2016, 07:03:48 pm
I have still got the cathier in😢 .and it has slide in so I have only a little tube left visible and it is pulling when I walk. The a and E doctor I saw yesterday said it is draining OK so is fine .the doctor s I have spoken to are just happy that it is draining. I am wondering if I should call the district nurses out. The tip is quite sore and I am to much of a wimp to pull it out myself. (No not right out just enough to stop it pulling  )
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 January, 2016, 07:08:25 pm
Catheters are usually held in place by a balloon, usually filled with saline, at the 'internal' end.
This needs to be deflated before the catheter is removed or it will HURT.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 20 January, 2016, 07:14:34 pm
Just pull on the end of the catheter gently, cm.  It should just slide out a bit.  You can't do any damage as long as you're gentle, and you stop if it hurts.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 20 January, 2016, 07:51:43 pm
Because the tip is sore I am to scared of pain to pull it. I tried and the tube seems to stretch and it hurts a bit and I wimp out again .I know I should MTFU but a wimp I remain   ::-) :'( :'( . I am using a gel called optilube which is making things a bit more comfortable . I suspect that I will have to put up with it as I have bothered doctors to much this week and I cannot afford to upset them ..
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 20 January, 2016, 09:18:05 pm
Because the tip is sore I am to scared of pain to pull it. I tried and the tube seems to stretch and it hurts a bit and I wimp out again .I know I should MTFU but a wimp I remain   ::-) :'( :'( . I am using a gel called optilube which is making things a bit more comfortable . I suspect that I will have to put up with it as I have bothered doctors to much this week and I cannot afford to upset them ..

Have you tried sitting in the bath?  Are you keeping the tip of your penis clean, is there gunk on the catheter?  It's important to keep the catheter clean, wiping it away from your body.  If there's dried gunk on the catheter/end of your penis, that could be making it stick.  The penis will be irritated by the presence of the catheter and produce extra mucus.  It's just like snot, when it dries it goes all crusty.

Irritation inside the bladder from the presence of the catheter can cause referred pain at the tip of the penis.  It's unpleasant but not dangerous.

I would call the district nurses, even if it's just for a telephone conversation.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 20 January, 2016, 11:13:01 pm
^ This woman knows what she's talking about.

OOI, in my thankfully limited and mostly third-hand experience of the things, catheters have a port on the external end for the attachment of a syringe for the inflation/deflation of the balloon.  Wouldn't that stop it from sliding inside?

ETA: Thinking about it, I suppose that's exactly what's happening.  Ouch.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 21 January, 2016, 09:01:32 am
Thanks for the advice .I will call the district nurses as soon as I have finished reading YACF . one must make sure that one's priority s are right . ☺
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 23 January, 2016, 02:55:02 pm
Speaking of catheters, I had one shoved into my arm yesterday and another wee titanium doodah deposited in a dodgy coronary artery, whippet quick.

When I was lying there with one arm tied down for the cardiologist and a drip in the other I remarked that if they tied both it'd be like Texas, but he didn't get the joke.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 January, 2016, 10:51:11 am
Really worried about MrsC.
She's had fluey illness for a few weeks.

Separate from that, her ankles have swollen up and her calves are swollen and rigid (she's not prone to getting puffy swellings on legs). It's not like just common fluid retention, on one leg her whole calf muscles is swollen and absolutely rigid.

A suggested caused (yes, I know, stop looking at drgoogle) is obstructed blood flow, with 'masses in pelvis' being a cause (e.g. pregnancy). MrsC has a large (benign) mass in her pelvis. She won't go to the doctor.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 25 January, 2016, 11:43:59 am
Very worrying.
I don't know what to suggest if she won't see a doctor.
mrsc obviously needs a doctor and I'm useless at the persuasion end.
I hope you can get mrsc and medics to cross paths and that issues can be addressed/treated.
I truly hope the pelvic mass is still benign.
[worried]
Best wishes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 January, 2016, 12:01:15 pm
Got hold of her - swelling gone this morning, but then her fibroid (which is size of two grapefruit) moves when she lies down.

I wish she'd to see a doctor. Might have to phone her eldest daughter and see if she can persuade her. Sometimes intelligent people can be so stupid.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 25 January, 2016, 12:06:35 pm
If nothing else, mrsc should encourage blood to flow back from her legs to her pelvis by lying down from time to time.
Stagnant blood has a tendency to clot and I really don't want a DVT or pulmonary embolism to result.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 25 January, 2016, 12:17:00 pm
MrC sounds like a plan re persuasion. 

Clever people are annoying: My mum is a qualified teacher of the deaf. When she lost all her hearing in one ear she was just saying "Whateverrrrr *shrug*" when she told me about it. I had to threaten to go to her house the next day and DRAG her to a doctor/A&E before she would go and see GP or talk to her audiologist colleagues for advice...  Biggles Mum's fiance is a doctor, he's EVEN worse and has nearly killed himself by not taking meds properly cos the other medics say "oh yeah, you fiddle with meds as you like"... Stupid buggers the pair of them. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Jurek on 25 January, 2016, 03:30:55 pm
The monster abcess from three years ago is rearing its head again.
Appointment made with the dentist for tomorrow morning - hopefully I'll last until then.
Last time it went from nothing to this  (https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3822/12544867635_377d971739_z.jpg)in the space of a couple of hours.
Dentist wasn't able to do anything as I couldn't open my mouth sufficiently for him to get in there.
Do. Not. Want. Again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 25 January, 2016, 04:27:52 pm
Eek Jurek!
Hope it's treated and settled soonest!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Biggsy on 25 January, 2016, 04:46:40 pm
Make a male urinary catheter tube more comfortable by applying some (more) lubrication gel.  They let me have some extra little syringes of it to apply myself when I was on a catheter in hospital.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 27 January, 2016, 06:20:38 pm
The opthalmologist finally told me I could go to the optician as things should be settled by now.  The operated eye needs a fairly minor prescription of +1.5 (it ended up long-sighted, even at infinity) with astigmatism of +1.0 at 80 degrees.  However, the ghost image cannot be corrected by glasses; best guess is that it's reflection from the interface between the graft and the "factory" cornea.  This should keep diminishing with time but is annoying when driving in the dark.  The unoperated left eye still needs no correction although I am 47 in two months' time...it's all fog and rainbows, of course, but that's not a refractive error.  My father and I both had really good eyesight until the Fuch's dystrophy got us!

*it will actually be free to me since I have already paid the scheme excess for this 12 months
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 January, 2016, 11:20:02 am
G^%&*$"£ my arm hurts
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 29 January, 2016, 12:23:39 pm
GWS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 29 January, 2016, 01:10:29 pm
@mrcharly sympathy, but G^%&*$"£ so does mine.  Extensive inflammation of tendons from the pressure bandage they put on my wrist last week. It seems that every night when I'm asleep they fuse to their sheaths, and when I move them in the morning the pain is just short of making me vomit.  That goes on until they're free to move again, usually a few hours, then the next night it starts over again.  One is not happy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 January, 2016, 01:13:27 pm
@mrcharly sympathy, but G^%&*$"£ so does mine.  Extensive inflammation of tendons from the pressure bandage they put on my wrist last week. It seems that every night when I'm asleep they fuse to their sheaths, and when I move them in the morning the pain is just short of making me vomit.  That goes on until they're free to move again, usually a few hours, then the next night it starts over again.  One is not happy.
hey it gives you something to look forward to, each morning, right?  :facepalm:

I broke my radius, so why does freakin ulna ache none-stop?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 29 January, 2016, 05:36:42 pm
Nerves can't tell the difference between the bones, maybe.

My bloody arm has hurt all day today.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 29 January, 2016, 07:09:59 pm
Hi T42  this sounds a good case for long acting anti inflammatories.  They should keep working through the night and still be on board the following morning.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 29 January, 2016, 07:28:16 pm
I phoned the hospital yesterday as I have not yet had appointment for removing the cathier only to discover that the request has not been sent to heatherwood hospital from wexham park hospital and had I not phoned the famed thing would be left in  :o :'( .hopefully on Monday I should now find out when it will be removed .
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 30 January, 2016, 08:32:44 am
Although the German healthcare system is supposed to be very good, it has some disadvantages from my point of view.

I had cystitis two weeks ago and didn't see a doctor as the surgery hours on a Friday are 9:30-12:00 and that's it. I felt dodgy after midday on the Friday. I would have had to wait till Monday or try to find another surgery in Krefeld or further afield which would be a big hassle. Hellymedic's advice to drink loadsa water solved the problem over that weekend.

Of course yesterday (a Friday) at 11:45 I noticed more blood in my urine. Just a tiny bit, but shouldn't be there. Same issue - I have to wait until Monday (afternoon, as I have a job interview in the morning) before I can see the doctor. I know also it will cost me a lot of money as I guess he will do some tests and as I am privately insured with a £300 excess it will hit my pocket, thus a reluctance to go.

If the job interview is successful I will get on public health insurance which will be great - no cost to me for such visits. Which will be a relief...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 30 January, 2016, 09:33:42 am
I am sorry but two episodes of blood in the urine is a proceed straight to hospital, do not collect £200 card.  Cystitis is not known for causing blood in the urine but there are some serious things which would cause both.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 30 January, 2016, 09:56:08 am
OK, I will go to the local Notdienst (emergency doctor) in the hospital.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 30 January, 2016, 11:50:35 am
I think you can wait until Monday but be prepared for a very rapid escalation of care and investigations.  Certainly that would be the case in the UK
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 January, 2016, 01:49:46 pm
I'm really ignorant about this arm cast thing. How much is it supposed  to hurt? do I keep it in the paper sling all the time?

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 January, 2016, 02:01:38 pm
It shouldn't really hurt if the broken bones are being kept still.
There might be a background ache.

The sling is there to prevent your limb dangling and getting more swollen. If you can elevate your hand above your elbow any other way, do this; rest it on a pillow, put your hand in the air like a child in class, whatever.

Wiggle your fingers, while keeping your wrist above your elbow.

If you feel there something digging in or your cast feels tight, get someone who knows to take a LOOK.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 January, 2016, 02:06:56 pm
It hurts like a bastard. was swelling and felt numb  on one side but I slept for few hours on the sofa with it propped hand-up againsy back of sofa and thats gone down
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 30 January, 2016, 02:13:21 pm
Went to the local hospital a&e. The receptionists were nurses and asked me what was wrong quite specifically. They then got me to do a urine sample and then got a urologist to see me. She did an ultrasound of my bladder and kidneys and said everything was normal, did a visual check of my undercarriage and said she thought all was generally OK, it might be the tail end of my cystitis, but to keep an eye and go to my Hausarzt if it happens again and they would do a camera check of the bladder. Very happy with the care, I await the bill with interest.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 January, 2016, 02:14:29 pm
ELEVATE, ELEVATE, ELEVATE!!!

and Get Well Soon!

If it still HURTS despite elevation or looks discoloured, get someone to take a look!

Advice over the interwebs cannot replace human interaction which combines two way conversation, including body language
Seeing
Feeling
testing
etc

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 January, 2016, 02:18:31 pm
I think a lot of the pain is from the dislocation. will keep it in the sling and see if it improves
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 30 January, 2016, 02:19:36 pm
ELEVATE, ELEVATE, ELEVATE!!!

What, Auntie Helen's bladder?  Gott im Himbeergeist!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 January, 2016, 02:21:04 pm
It was your wrist that was dislocated and is now in a cast, wasn't it?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 January, 2016, 02:28:03 pm
half cast from knuckles to just short of elbow. I think there were a few hairline fracturs as well as the main fragmented radius humerous- which was crushed like cut a crunchy bar in half then ground the two ends together
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 January, 2016, 02:40:18 pm
Ouchy!
That humerus (no 'o') sounds sore!

I should imagine it is difficult to elevate your wrist AND keep your upper arm still.

In general, fractures don't hurt much if not moved but immobilising a humerus in loadsa bits is almost impossible.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 January, 2016, 02:48:29 pm
radius, not humerus. dunno why I typed that
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 January, 2016, 03:01:12 pm
Ahh.

You radius won't be fully immobilised if your elbow can move and the main shaft is fragmented.

Back slabs do provide some splintage but not total immobilisation. They accommodate the swelling which is inevitable after any injury.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 30 January, 2016, 04:46:22 pm
I think you can wait until Monday but be prepared for a very rapid escalation of care and investigations.  Certainly that would be the case in the UK
I beg to differ. Blood in urine has been ignored as an expected side effect of cystitis every time I've asked my GP. Even when we're discussing obvious clots in a urine sample.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 30 January, 2016, 05:09:14 pm
I'm sure both I and my Mum have had blood with cystitis, which resolved rapidly with antibiotics.
Painless haematuria needs urgent investigation. I'm less convinced on the need to investigate it when pissing smelly daggers.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 31 January, 2016, 12:50:29 pm
Dear snot system, sort yourself out ffs!  I know it's January and you're contractually obliged to make my life a constant misery with fluctuating ENT lurgification but I'm BORED. Go and annoy someone else, preferably someone who never gets sick and needs to gain some empathy!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 31 January, 2016, 08:55:34 pm
But not me ^^
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 31 January, 2016, 09:12:46 pm
ElyDave: You have empathy, you're spared! (And have enough shite on your plate, I mean people who don't have shite on plates too!) ;) #WhenIAmADeity
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 February, 2016, 10:38:58 am
back at work

arm not really sore, but is getting puffy and tight in cast, even with elbow on desk and hanf in air
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 01 February, 2016, 12:45:13 pm
That's possibly a sign of 'difficulty', hope you can get it more wedged in the air and perhaps some medical advice from someone just to check it's safe for you in work.  You might be better lying down and arm up for example!  Don't wreck your arm for anyone, arms are precious.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 February, 2016, 12:52:30 pm
at home I took regular breaks and laid down; not really possible here :|
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 01 February, 2016, 01:00:55 pm
Sounds like it's unwise to be at work, unless you can arrange to reduce swelling in your arm.
Barakta knows, arms are precious!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 01 February, 2016, 03:02:03 pm
I agree with Helly, it sounds like you still need lying down regular breaks...  A friend who had a wrist injury a bit like yours (he's a programmer) had to have several weeks off work for recovery :/

ION: Snot can fuck right off. Going to stick it out till 4pm but I'm not achieving anything and I keep fucking even simple stuff up which makes me unsafe to do student work!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 February, 2016, 05:53:52 pm
I was a good boy, came home and laid down with arm in the air.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 01 February, 2016, 05:55:06 pm
You tried, you gave it a good shot and it was too soon. No one can say you didn't try, not even the voice in your head...  Hope a few more days makes all the difference Mr C!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 February, 2016, 06:19:44 pm
lol I'll be back in work tomorrow, I have a demo to present, been working on it over the weekend

Just been good resting
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 01 February, 2016, 06:26:40 pm
Good luck with the demo but be gentle to yourself when it's done.

You aren't ready for full-time work yet!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 01 February, 2016, 07:17:47 pm
I still have a cathier in 😢 . I have phoned both wexham and heatherwood hospital s and have been promised replys since Thursday .I am seeing the doctor tomorrow so I will see if he can get any sense out of them .this is getting very frustrating and depressing. If it takes this long to get the cathier out I hate to think how long it will take to do the tests to hopefully sort the problem out  :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 01 February, 2016, 08:01:06 pm
I still have a cathier in 😢 . I have phoned both wexham and heatherwood hospital s and have been promised replys since Thursday .I am seeing the doctor tomorrow so I will see if he can get any sense out of them .this is getting very frustrating and depressing. If it takes this long to get the cathier out I hate to think how long it will take to do the tests to hopefully sort the problem out  :(

O'm afraid if you want to get ANYTHING done in the NHS, there are  times when you can lose the will to live hanging on the phone, going round and round and round and round and round in circles!

It's a horrible state of affairs and I do sympathise!

I really fear for those who don't do phones or waiting well. I'm sure many people come to harm 'slipping through the net'.

Hope you're sorted soon!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 02 February, 2016, 08:16:19 am
Ironically enough I have just read a report on how much wexham park hospital had improved over the last 2 years  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 February, 2016, 10:50:06 am
Haven't we all? It's on Auntie's website.
Read that and thought of you...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 02 February, 2016, 06:23:28 pm
Well as I was speeding along to the doctor this morning on the mobility scooter ( faster than a speeding slug ) I received a call from heatherwood hospital .they said wexham park had said that the had a catheter fitted on Thursday !!!!,I should come to the hospital on Thursday to have a trial  cathier removal. She was most surprised to hear how long it has actually been in. This evening the tube is causing blood at the despite me using both clotrimazole cream and instillagel gel . roll on Thursday  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 03 February, 2016, 02:16:45 pm
Got my bill today for Saturday's trip to A&E and my ultrasound of kidneys and bladder. Total 97,49€ which is pretty reasonable as it was a Saturday.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 February, 2016, 11:57:04 am
re-plastered, xrayed and assessed

another check next week - if progress continues then "I wont need srgery and probably only need a cast another 4 weeks"
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 04 February, 2016, 01:24:55 pm
Great news! Hope healing continues smoothly.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 February, 2016, 01:47:20 pm
Barakta's curst from reply #725 has got me. Either that or I caught it from Dez, who has been coughing and spluttering like a bastard for a few days. This is a monumental pain in the arse as I had made a dental appointment for tomorrow to attend to the tooth whose filling dropped out whilst at Clapham bunkhouse last weekend (sorry Ruthie!  :-[) and I don't feel like lying on my back with someone pocking sharp sticks into my mouth whilst I am very liable to  have a coughing fit.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 04 February, 2016, 02:24:57 pm
re-plastered, xrayed and assessed

another check next week - if progress continues then "I wont need srgery and probably only need a cast another 4 weeks"

Here's hoping.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 04 February, 2016, 08:09:14 pm
Well I got to heatherwood hospital today by bus and they removed the cathier . after a lot of drinking I failed to pass enough water and so they have put in a tube and tap . I have ridden into town this evening and back but I will have to find a way to stop my clothing chaffing on the tube as I am ridding . the plan now is the tube stays in for 3 weeks then back to heatherwood hospital to see if I can manage without it . after that some pressure test's to hopefully find the cause of the problem's and sort out a cure ☺
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 February, 2016, 08:22:42 pm
that sounds thoroughly unpleasant!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 05 February, 2016, 08:18:16 am
I admit that it's not the most fun I have had . it is proving to be more comfortable than the leg bag so far ☺
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 05 February, 2016, 08:27:35 am
I admit that it's not the most fun I have had . it is proving to be more comfortable than the leg bag so far ☺

Less danger from bag-snatchers too, I should think.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 06 February, 2016, 07:26:16 am
 ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 February, 2016, 11:00:08 am
This fucking flu can fuck off any time it fucking wants. Bastard git.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 06 February, 2016, 12:35:02 pm
I agree about the flu!  " weeks of being laid absolutely flat.  ! week off work and spending the day lying down, yuk.  beginning to turn the corner now.  have to get fit for the Easter Arrow.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 February, 2016, 12:43:22 pm
I'm on my 4th day now. Started Weds eve and I've been feeling lousy since. Dez has had it since Mon.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 06 February, 2016, 06:36:40 pm
I am on day 15.  Came back from holiday having exercised, rested, etc.  2 days later on the Friday came home and collapsed.  In bed all weekend but went into work on Monday.  Struggled through to Thursday when I was practically comatose and have been off work ever since, temperature swings, sweating, etc!!  Just managed 20 minutes on the turbo today and will try for an hour tomorrow.  I have 2 days in court on Monday/Tuesday so that will not be too bad although 2 hours on the train to Newcastle is a bit of a faff.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 February, 2016, 07:30:26 pm
I think I understand why I got a look from the nurse when I said I'd gone back to work on Monday. I've done nothing be lazy since last night and my arm and hand have improved more in 18 hours than they had in the previous week.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 06 February, 2016, 07:49:40 pm
I am on day 15.  Came back from holiday having exercised, rested, etc.  2 days later on the Friday came home and collapsed.  In bed all weekend but went into work on Monday.  Struggled through to Thursday when I was practically comatose and have been off work ever since, temperature swings, sweating, etc!!  Just managed 20 minutes on the turbo today and will try for an hour tomorrow.  I have 2 days in court on Monday/Tuesday so that will not be too bad although 2 hours on the train to Newcastle is a bit of a faff.

Doctors aren't very good at taking time off when they are sick are they?  ;)

If you read this in anyone else's post, what would you think about their return to work?

Huh?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: caerau on 06 February, 2016, 08:31:50 pm
heh, you'll have to include other types of doctor in that.

This one tried to tough out his tendon rupture for the last 3 weeks.

Officially I think this was a bad move

Surgery on Thursday and I've made myself ill trying to work hard and suffer at the same time. Now I'm signed off for four weeks for something that should probably be mostly done (sufferering-wise) by now  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
And I'm now hoping that I won't still be ill on Thursday :hand:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 07 February, 2016, 09:37:28 am
I'm on my second head cold of the year   :sick:  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 07 February, 2016, 11:13:02 am
Quote
Doctors aren't very good at taking time off when they are sick are they?
Hi Hellymedic, don't let my wife know! After 35 years of being married I have just about persuaded her that everybody else is a skiver and i am normal.  Although she did wonder wonder when I was pouring sweat, shivering uncontrollably and slightly confused last Sunday and refused to call the doctor.  After all what would they know that I didn't?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 07 February, 2016, 11:18:00 am
Um, this post might be somewhat controversial, but what about the fact that you've just potentially infected all your patients with the flu for the sake of presenteeism?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 07 February, 2016, 12:42:58 pm
Quote
Doctors aren't very good at taking time off when they are sick are they?
Hi Hellymedic, don't let my wife know! After 35 years of being married I have just about persuaded her that everybody else is a skiver and i am normal.  Although she did wonder wonder when I was pouring sweat, shivering uncontrollably and slightly confused last Sunday and refused to call the doctor.  After all what would they know that I didn't?

What do you mean 'Don't let my wife know?'
Your wife DOES know! You've been married 35 years and is no fool; you'd not have put up with a fool for 35 years, would you?

The lady would have tolerated 35 years of macho presenteeism, of which this is the latest example...

BTW the possibility of viral myocarditis might make sitting on the turbo unwise if you have 'flu.

You knew that anyway.

Others might not.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 07 February, 2016, 07:43:16 pm
My stepdad (to be) is a doctor. My mum was a nurse... Mum has to apply a certain level of CLUEBAT to stepdad over health-issues as he's inclined to ignore stuff till it's actually scary.  It doesn't help his medics tend to be old pals who say "Oh take X at Y dose for Z days and then see how you feel and fiddle with the regime as you wish" so Dr IHateMeds (not even cos side effects, just the idea of meds) usually stops treatment entirely waaaay too early...

Of course DrIHateMeds is also sickeningly jammy, he was virtually pain/effects free 7 days after appendectomy last Xmas even though he's 70, lardy and not all that fit!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 07 February, 2016, 08:03:51 pm
Hi Helly
Apparently she was just about to ignore me and call the doctor!  I was being slightly tongue in cheek.  After 35 years of marriage we do tend to know each other pretty well.

I had forgotten about viral myocarditis actually, but was being sensible and kept heart rate below 145 and power was 85% of FTP or less.

Actually the evidence that flu is infective once the Acute phase has settled is quite low so I wasn't being that bad.  Personally I am more interested in my technical ability and thinking ability.  If I cannot operate for a standard operation or cannot diagnose a patient then I am not fit to be at work.  Hence why this time I was more sensible/realistic and have had a full 9 days away.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 07 February, 2016, 09:57:56 pm
Glad to see you were wise enough to take the time off; it's actually really difficult to do this, which I appreciate.
I know very few doctors who haven't struggled to work when they should have been off.
I was just as bad.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 February, 2016, 01:52:45 pm
See also "Teachers".

When a teacher goes in ill, it's an investment: they are safe in the knowledge that half the class will be off next week, when they are better.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 08 February, 2016, 06:01:41 pm
Isn't the whole point of school holidays to give teachers time to do their being ill in?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 08 February, 2016, 10:23:25 pm
I feel so ill.  I had to drag myself home from work tonight, I felt so awful. 

I'll still be going to work in the morning though.  As you do.

Sore throat, whole body aching, can hardly move.  Yeah, that'd be a cold then  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 08 February, 2016, 10:29:22 pm
Get Well Soon Ruthie!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 08 February, 2016, 10:45:03 pm
Thanks Helly  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 09 February, 2016, 09:43:01 am
Get well soon, I can imagine how you feel.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 February, 2016, 02:46:54 pm
I feel so ill.  I had to drag myself home from work tonight, I felt so awful. 

I'll still be going to work in the morning though.  As you do.

Sore throat, whole body aching, can hardly move.  Yeah, that'd be a cold then  ::-)

GWS! I had very similar symptoms last week. Lots of aching. Very sore throat. Congested sinuses.

Mostly, things are on the mend now. Temperature down, sneezing stopped, less congested. I have cancelled all my work this week. Half term next week.

However, I have one, or two, symptoms that you won't have, Ruthie:

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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 10 February, 2016, 08:23:02 pm
Achievement unlocked:  Improved BMI by being 3cm taller than at last year's annual being-told-off-by-the-asthma-nurse appointment.   :o


No, I haven't a clue how that happened.  Either I've been wrong about my height for years, or I've grown since I was last measured by a competent healthcare professional.  We checked, and left leg vs right leg weight bearing only accounts for a little under 1cm difference, so it can't just be that.

I'm wondering if someone made a mountain bike tyre size cockup and converted 5'6" instead of 5.6'.  But who the fuck measures anything in decimal feet?  More likely someone applied an overenthusiastic fudge factor for shoes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 February, 2016, 09:58:18 pm
I am feeling generally a lot less fluey. My symptoms now consist of being knackered (slept a lot this afternoon), having a fairly constant trickle of glutinous snot* from the back of the sinuses into my throat, still coughing a little, but very little, and having another couple of days' worth of antibiotics to finish. I might have a tentative bike ride tomorrow just to say I have. Won't be far.

*Mrs. Wow had an ancient relative in her youth, a grandfather, I believe, who had some comment about "it all hanging down the back and it feels as though you could plait it". Applies to me now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 10 February, 2016, 10:01:01 pm
I still feel like poo.  My throat still hurts and for the first two hours after taking paracetamol or ibuprofen I can function reasonably normally.  But once they start wearing off I feel like I'm going to die and just want to sleep.  My whole body hurts and I'm so tired.

*whimper*

Really very bad at being ill.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 11 February, 2016, 07:43:07 am
last time I had proper flu vs a cold was almost exactly three years ago, working away from home in Aberdeen, came on about Wednesday and I worked through til Friday feeling like crap, came home lay on the sofa for two days.  Only problem was my immune system decided to go rogue and f*@k up my pancreas giving me the lovely gift of Type 1 diabetes aged 39.  :demon:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 11 February, 2016, 08:44:45 am
Interesting. Some gastroenteritis viruses carry surface proteins very similar to those on the surface of beta cells, and antibodies against the former can take out the latter as well, leaving you diabetic.  Happened to the 4-year-old son of a friend of mine - explaining to the poor wee chap why his parents had to start sticking needles into him was harrowing.

Any chance of a beta-cell implant?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 11 February, 2016, 08:47:47 am
Anyway, I came in here to crow because my GP has cancelled the cardiologist's aspirin prescription.  The cardio knew in advance that the stuff buggers up my oesophagus but insisted, so since my stent went in I've been eating razors.  Doc said he was bonkers.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 11 February, 2016, 09:23:26 am
Interesting. Some gastroenteritis viruses carry surface proteins very similar to those on the surface of beta cells, and antibodies against the former can take out the latter as well, leaving you diabetic.  Happened to the 4-year-old son of a friend of mine - explaining to the poor wee chap why his parents had to start sticking needles into him was harrowing.

Any chance of a beta-cell implant?

It's always a possibility, but I'd be low priority for it as I don't struggle with control.  I have no idea though whether those rogue T-cells are still around and would just attack the new beta cells.

There are some well  identified trauma triggers for T1, including both disease and physical trauma, but no way of identifying who might have that underlying genetic susceptibility.  In some ways I'm lucky that it took so long to manifest itself, as my consultant at the last appointment said that later diagnosis tends to give an easier ride of it and end up with fewer complications.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 11 February, 2016, 09:51:01 am
A friend of mine got glandular fever and "pushed through it" to work, ended up in ICU nearly dead and came out with type I diabetes and since then has developed all manner of nasty things like epilepsy and myasthenis gravis... Not good news. :/
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 11 February, 2016, 10:12:09 am
Achievement unlocked:  Improved BMI by being 3cm taller than at last year's annual being-told-off-by-the-asthma-nurse appointment.   :o


No, I haven't a clue how that happened.  Either I've been wrong about my height for years, or I've grown since I was last measured by a competent healthcare professional.  We checked, and left leg vs right leg weight bearing only accounts for a little under 1cm difference, so it can't just be that.

I'm wondering if someone made a mountain bike tyre size cockup and converted 5'6" instead of 5.6'.  But who the fuck measures anything in decimal feet?  More likely someone applied an overenthusiastic fudge factor for shoes.

Ah, you're not alone.

At my heart health check-up a year or two ago, they claimed I was 184cm.

That's 2cm more than I've always thought. They then went on about how it was good I'd put some weight on.

Given that I've had my height checked using a stadiometer in the past and been 182cm, I'm inclined to believe that height was always correct.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 11 February, 2016, 10:32:55 am
I still feel like poo.  My throat still hurts and for the first two hours after taking paracetamol or ibuprofen I can function reasonably normally.  But once they start wearing off I feel like I'm going to die and just want to sleep.  My whole body hurts and I'm so tired.

*whimper*

Really very bad at being ill.
Could you get over it soon please? I want you to come and visit us in our new house!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 February, 2016, 10:59:36 am
I'm doing well, I'm told, being a good boy - but still another 4 weeks in plaster.  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 February, 2016, 11:06:04 am
I have come to the conclusion that the bollock pain referred to above is actually referred pain: I had some pain in the back of my legs and left knee, which felt very like sciatica, whilst I was lying in bed in the early hours. I managed to get to sleep again and the pain had mostly gone.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 11 February, 2016, 06:11:27 pm
Another day another water infection  ::-) :'( .more antibiotics  ::-). Get well everyone  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 February, 2016, 08:34:09 am
stupid effing migraine-related spasms kicked off in my broken forearm and tore some tendons. Brilliant, just effing brilliant
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ian on 12 February, 2016, 09:44:11 am
A friend of mine got glandular fever and "pushed through it" to work, ended up in ICU nearly dead and came out with type I diabetes and since then has developed all manner of nasty things like epilepsy and myasthenis gravis... Not good news. :/

This seems (anecdotally) common. A friend of mine had non-specific fever, nothing major, and his girlfriend came home to find him unconscious on the kitchen floor. Turned out that little unidentified virus left him the gift of type 1 diabetes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 February, 2016, 09:48:24 am
Oh, a question. one cast off testerday, another on. In between I tried straightening my wrist. Got part way and no further. Not stopped by pain, just solid unable to move any further (like bending elbow or knee past straight).

Is this normal, a result of being in the cast for 2 weeks or have I buggered my wrist joint?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 12 February, 2016, 10:28:38 am
3rd possibility: they have.

I'd talk to the orthopaedist if I were you, sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 12 February, 2016, 02:55:31 pm
MrC seek advice, it never does any harm and if you're ok no harm done whereas if there's an issue they need to know ASAP.  Hands are precious :)

As for my health and fitness, this lurgy can "do one". Feel as if I've been cycling through lurg for over 6 weeks and now I'm sinking into antibiotic lurgy territory... Eating #AllTheDrugs but still feel like crap.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 February, 2016, 03:09:21 pm
I guess that isn't normal then

consulting dr google, I'm bloody lucky to have avoided an external fixator. Just the look of those things makes me cringe
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 February, 2016, 11:13:04 pm
Why won't this sodding flu just sod off? Sneezing and snotting again this evening. Finished the antibiotics at lunchtime. It's half term now! I want to go cycling!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: essexian on 13 February, 2016, 04:11:35 am
Can you be allergic to a swimming pool?

I ask as I seem to be having a very bad reaction after my coaching session at one pool, while I am fine after practicing my drills at the other. The reaction I am getting is a very blocked nose alternating with periods where it won’t stop running. This has happened over the last three weeks and takes a day or two to clear up. It is so bad that I can’t sleep, hence the reason I am up writing this at just after 4am!

I wondered if it was anything to do with the time of my coaching session: 8 to 9pm, so I tried a swim at the same time of night at the other pool with no reaction.

Thus, I wonder if I am allergic to the pool?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 13 February, 2016, 08:39:04 am
Maybe from algae present in one but not the other, or something in the circulation system.  Or a higher pee concentration - I believe the "chlorine" smell comes not from the chlorine itself but its reaction with pee.

Since you're on a late session, it could be that you're picking up something undesirable left by earlier swimmers.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 15 February, 2016, 10:22:48 am
Still got lurgy, Kim still has lurgy. Very Boring Indeed. Been swallowing knives since Thursday and epic snot.

No point in seeing GP as I'm still fairly convinced it's viral-crud and antibiotics probably won't do anything. I just hope I don't end up with a secondary infection in spite of all the drugs and tricks I'm trying to prevent it with.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 February, 2016, 11:00:17 am
We have a high-proprtion of lurgy-sufferers in the office; seems to be a persistent strain this year.

Arm is improving; as long as I make no attempt to use fingers. Doing so produces major persistent (for hours) ache down fingers and hand.
Either I am an utter wimp (possible) or this is being unusually painful.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 15 February, 2016, 01:18:00 pm
Same here re lurgy sufferers -- boss is being lovely at me doing not full days and doing what I can.  I feel fucking awful tho. SO bored of this. Wish it was bacterial as a good dose of something antibioticky would be MAGIC!  Viruses are POO.  Why can't we nuke them properly too?!

Regarding your hand, you're not usually a wimp so I would assume it is still painful cos you b0rked it good and proper and your body is trying to heal itself which takes TIME! (Patience being a hard trait to have in recovery). Hands are complex as fuck, hospitals are thinking of creating a combined orthopaedics + plastics hand specialism. The difference between a HAND specialist and general orthopod is amazingly different!  My friend who had a plated break (after a week of immobilisation) but simpler sounding than yours was off work 8 weeks cos he was just WIPED as well as being in pain. He kept trying to fill/empty this dishwasher cos he lived in a madhouse and no one else would do it, he had to be stomped on by his clinicians to STOP and actually rest properly!

I have pretty badass pain thresholds (altho not as much as in childhood) and my simpler carpal tunnel + tenosynovectomy surgery in 2009 had a recovery from 23rd Dec well into Feb... I deferred my return to work by a further 10 days on Occ Health doctor advice until I was virtually pain free.  I was recommended 6-8 weeks, I had nearer 10. There were some things I could do straight away, typing being one of them (for short periods) and other things I could not do at all for weeks.

TL:DR - you're not a wuss, healing injuries hurt!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 February, 2016, 02:16:05 pm
you are very kind

I think I#m bricking myself re long term effects too
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 15 February, 2016, 02:41:40 pm
Chez the cardiologist this morning for a post-stent stress test.  Quads like strands of spaghetti, not much puff after ~6 weeks off but everything was OK.  BP at 150 bpm was a bit high (242/71 with 250 being gasket-blowing limit) but probably also due to inactivity so he imposed no new drugs, just told me to keep below 150 bpm which is the limit I observe anyway.  So I can ride again.

Oh, he did say to stop doing "extreme" events.  Audax isn't extreme, is it?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Samuel D on 15 February, 2016, 03:22:33 pm
Oh, he did say to stop doing "extreme" events.  Audax isn't extreme, is it?

The only way to know for sure would be to ask the man on the Clapham omnibus.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 15 February, 2016, 03:59:26 pm
Fortunately I never go to Clapham.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 18 February, 2016, 01:20:21 pm
After my throat got much worse last night and I'm getting exhausted by TheSnot TM I got myself a GP appt with my lovely GP practice this morning.

EMIS is a steaming pile of fucking shit and wouldn't work at 4am so I had to get up at 8am and fight with deaf-relay telephony which is very very slow so very bad at repeat dialing to overcome engaged tones and answer phone messages (takes 30-60s to connect a call + waiting for op after call answered). Thankfully my GP is superb, they DO have appointments and their receptionists are very good with relay -- they don't hang up during the wait for an operator...  A less good GP receptionist might not stay on the line or have run out of appointments due to the slowness of dialing.

Sensible GP who I haven't met before, agrees with me that it is borderline viral/bacterial but given my history and how long I've been ill and lovely "signs of bacterial infection" she can give me antibiotics. We had a sensible discussion about whether we zapped sinuses or throat, she was skewing to sinuses, I skewed to throat which is more problematic so we went with throat. 500mg phenoxymethyl-penicillin 4x a day for 10 days which sounds like standard regime.  I also need to try gargling with salt water to see if that shifts any crud, of which there's loads.

Also ibuprofen for nobbling minor sinus snot seems to be standard technique now (I learned it some years ago from a friend with brittle bones collapsed sinuses) and is probably largely responsible for the 2-3 year gap in needing antibiotics for ENT nonsense cos I can nobble it before it sets it a lot of the time... Thankfully I can tolerate it pretty well.

EMIS still won't let me log in, it's changed what details it wanted since last time (I have everything in a text file) and won't let me reset my password or anything. I'll have to talk to receptionists sometime at GP (across the road) and get a reset thinger.  How is EMIS SO BAD! The User Interface is about as good as our new work software!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 February, 2016, 01:42:54 pm
GWS! PenV (phenoxymethylpenicillin) has to be one of the 'best value' medicines in the pharmacopeia, as well as the ibuprofen, but ICnBA to find out how many pennies your medicines have cost the NHS. I doubt it's more than £1.
Staff costs are another matter.

Pen V is very good for throats (and sadly neglected cos Newer 'Better' medicines were invented).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 February, 2016, 04:34:08 pm
I see the British Heart Foundation will run a 'Dechox March' initiative to raise funds and encourage 'good habits' next month.
I am not participating...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 18 February, 2016, 04:43:35 pm
I see the British Heart Foundation will run a 'Dechox March' initiative to raise funds and encourage 'good habits' next month.
I am not participating...

Quote from: BHF
Any sort of cocoa is a no-no

Quote from: BHF
Flavonoids contained in dark chocolate may have a protective effect on heart health

 ???
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 February, 2016, 04:54:58 pm
???

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 February, 2016, 05:33:51 pm
mixed messages written by underlings

chocolate, with excessive sugar & crappy added fats; not so good

cocoa = excellent
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 18 February, 2016, 05:59:43 pm
GWS! PenV (phenoxymethylpenicillin) has to be one of the 'best value' medicines in the pharmacopeia, as well as the ibuprofen, but ICnBA to find out how many pennies your medicines have cost the NHS. I doubt it's more than £1.
Staff costs are another matter.

Pen V is very good for throats (and sadly neglected cos Newer 'Better' medicines were invented).

*nods* Took dose 2 a few hours ago. Think I've made right decision as sinuses improve throughout the day and throat is still horrible.

I am very lucky my GP surgery is very accessible which in turn helps me minimise my needing to use it because I don't need to book "just in case" appointments or keep going back to fix medical fail (like I did at first when they had 2 slightly dubious GPs who meddled with my meds or told me I wasn't ill so I'd go home and go back a week later HIDEOUSLY ill needing more followups and evil antibiotics).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 February, 2016, 02:14:53 pm
I see the British Heart Foundation will run a 'Dechox March' initiative to raise funds and encourage 'good habits' next month.
I am not participating...

Seeing as Easter is in March this year and Easter Eggs are a seasonal treat, I think this will not be a popular campaign.

If they ran the same campaign most other years, much or all of March would be in Lent.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 21 February, 2016, 09:41:59 pm
Not if you keep below 150.
Good news.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 22 February, 2016, 11:07:15 am
Does being ill make you clumsier? I'm just about over the majority of this weekend's lurgy, feeling only a bit washed out now*, but I seem to be knocking more things over/dropping things than normal.


*Considering the amount of sleep I've had this weekend, I really would like to feel more refreshed, ho hum.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 February, 2016, 11:26:58 am
Does being ill make you clumsier?
Yes
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 22 February, 2016, 12:39:23 pm
Does being ill make you clumsier?
Yes

And more 'stupid' in general.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 22 February, 2016, 02:01:38 pm
We currently diagnose Gran's regular urinary tract infections by the deterioration in her dementia. It's a remarkably effective and accurate predictor as the body takes resources to fit the infection which pulls them from keeping her mind working.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 22 February, 2016, 03:35:30 pm
Anything will increase confusion in old people - infection, pain, full bladder, constipation, insomnia, diabetes, heart, lung, liver or kidney failure, stroke, just anything.

Sorting out the cause can be a challenge...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 22 February, 2016, 03:49:31 pm
Dear oh lor'. First session on the turbo after six weeks of doing SFA.  10 rousing km on the second resistance notch from the bottom, heart on 130 most of the time, and it felt like the hills before Villaines on the way back from Brest.  Doused in sweat.  This is going to take a loooooooooooooooong time. :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 23 February, 2016, 08:50:37 pm
Dear oh lor'. First session on the turbo after six weeks of doing SFA.  10 rousing km on the second resistance notch from the bottom, heart on 130 most of the time, and it felt like the hills before Villaines on the way back from Brest.  Doused in sweat.  This is going to take a loooooooooooooooong time. :(

Keep going like that, watching the HR and you'll be back in no time.

My left thumb is now throbbing, that'l learn me for chopping a bit off it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 24 February, 2016, 08:27:55 am
I got a low-paid job three weeks ago and my German public health insurance information has now come through (you get automatically enrolled in the public health system when you get a job earning more than 450€ per month). This means that my decisions about whether to go to the doctor are no longer influenced by the fact I have to pay the first 500€ of treatment each year.

Anyway, I am going to see the Frauenarzt (doctor for women, although he is a man) this morning. This is part of the usual once-per-year cancer check (smear test and I think also breast examination). They do this yearly in Germany and it is free of charge with my insurance. I guess they will be shocked that it is 3 years since my last smear test but that's how regularly we do it in the UK.

What is good about German doctors is that they all have ultrasound machines so if they find any mystery lumps they (apparently) immediately check them with ultrasound and can supposedly say there and then if it's anything to worry about.

My experience of being privately insured just for two years, with the requirement that I pay for my treatment first and get the money back later, plus pay this 500€ excess, is that it is an unwelcome extra stress when you are concerned about health. I have no idea how people cope in the USA!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 February, 2016, 09:07:07 am
@ElyDave Cheers, but now it's bloody difficult summoning the energy to get back on the §$%&/( thing.  I hate turbos.

My experience of being privately insured just for two years, with the requirement that I pay for my treatment first and get the money back later, plus pay this 500€ excess, is that it is an unwelcome extra stress when you are concerned about health. I have no idea how people cope in the USA!

Yebbut without the US system we wouldn't have had "Breaking Bad".

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 24 February, 2016, 12:25:59 pm
Well everything was very efficient at the Frauenarzt. Except he recommended I had an ultrasound of my gearbox and that wasn't included in the free insurance bit of the consultation. I said yes as I thought it worth it for a first time and so that was 40€ but cheap at the price as he said everything was in the right place and looked fine.

The waiting rooms are posher and the equipment seems newer in German hospitals or doctors' practices.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 24 February, 2016, 07:22:29 pm
I am glad to hear that you have passed your not ah  :thumbsup: . I am off to heatherwood hospital in the morning to hopefully have my cathier remove .If I am lucky my plumbing will work this time  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 24 February, 2016, 09:57:02 pm
Good luck tomorrow Chris! Hope they can remove the wretched thing and your plumbing behaves!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 February, 2016, 09:59:36 pm
Good luck, cycleman!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: geraldc on 25 February, 2016, 10:03:04 am
I always thought I could handle caffeine, as I can drink loads of tea/coffee and have no problems dropping off.
I listened to a podcast on caffeine, and they said that caffeine affects the depth of sleep, you sleep lighter, and have less deep sleep, so back in the middle of Jan, I decided to give/drastically reduce caffeine.
It's worked very well, I wake up more refreshed, and having given up caffeine, I don't need caffeine to get me up and running in the morning. I also wear a fitbit, and the stats from that confirm that my number of restless spells in the night has more than halved.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 February, 2016, 02:13:40 pm
Yes, good wishes for that, Cycleman.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 February, 2016, 04:10:58 pm
^^^Same from me.

Although the words "yo heave ho" did go through my mind...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 25 February, 2016, 11:11:23 pm
Is it possible to have too many, Zero calorie and no caffeine, hydration tablets?  I use them all day and night, get a panic when I need to order more!i have diabetes insipidus so I need lots of water with me at all times. just worrying that too many of the "High 5 Zero" in a day might have a negative effet?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 26 February, 2016, 08:01:17 am
can't remember how much sodium is in the High-5 ones, that would be the main concern if you upset sodium balance, you may end up pi$$ing out what you're putting in.

I think the rest of what they have is a bit of magnesium, potassium, can't remember the rest.

What is your current blood glucose?  Long term control of that will be the key, as you're probably aware and will reduce that thirst.  I went from downing consecutive pints of water, tea, coffee, beer, gin to just normal thirst almost overnight.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 26 February, 2016, 09:30:50 am
I seem to have lost four entire days to lurgy, I've barely been awake since Sunday.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 26 February, 2016, 07:28:11 pm
Cheers all of you  :thumbsup:. It turned into a bit of a none event  ::-).  The uroligist was supposed to request some pressure test s  , a fact that was only discovered by the nurse by reading his written note's .so now the plan is to keep the cathier and tap in till the test is done (two months plus ) then if they can find a way to get the plumbing working again or teach me how to self cathieris . at least I can ride the trike in this configuration  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 26 February, 2016, 08:34:45 pm
that cannot be pleasant, having a tube up your old fella, at least you can still do stuff with it there.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 February, 2016, 10:45:59 pm
Makes me wince, just thinking about it. I've had a cystoscopy and getting tube past the prostate hurt.

On another topic, how long does it take bones to heal? 4 weeks now and I can feel the break exactly, still burns and aches like it did when I snapped the bloody thing!  The ligaments and tendons damaged from the dislocation have improved hugely.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 26 February, 2016, 10:51:42 pm
Makes me wince, just thinking about it. I've had a cystoscopy and getting tube past the prostate hurt.

On another topic, how long does it take bones to heal? 4 weeks now and I can feel the break exactly, still burns and aches like it did when I snapped the bloody thing!  The ligaments and tendons damaged from the dislocation have improved hugely.

DOn't know, never had a fracture any more serious than fingers or toes and they didn't take too long.  My shoulder, dislocated as a 16 year old, is still buggered however.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 26 February, 2016, 10:56:12 pm
Bones vary in their healing rate. Upper limb is faster than lower limb, compact bone slower than spongy bone, bastard bones like the scaphoid S-L-O-W due to  poor blood supply, hands faster than forearms etc so many variables.
Sixish weeks for a radius if things are progressing but not all fractures unite  :(
And a healing fracture must consolidate after uniting
so the answer is complex...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 February, 2016, 10:58:58 pm
I just did some research and found I'm being impatient. 6 weeks for my age is normal.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 26 February, 2016, 11:17:42 pm
can't remember how much sodium is in the High-5 ones, that would be the main concern if you upset sodium balance, you may end up pi$$ing out what you're putting in.

I think the rest of what they have is a bit of magnesium, potassium, can't remember the rest.

What is your current blood glucose?  Long term control of that will be the key, as you're probably aware and will reduce that thirst.  I went from downing consecutive pints of water, tea, coffee, beer, gin to just normal thirst almost overnight.

Quote....
Light & refreshing sports drink with a hint of fruit
Including Vitamin C and electrolytes, including sodium, magnesium and potassium
Zero calories
Suitable for a wide range of sporting activities
No gluten-containing ingredients
With natural flavours. No artificial colours or preservatives

Current blood glucose is a bit higher than it should be so I am taking notes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 28 February, 2016, 01:20:37 am
I've suspected for a while that the rise in diabetes can't really be explained by diet, and other environmental factors play a role.

http://www.sciencealert.com/exposure-to-air-pollution-makes-rats-put-on-weight-and-messes-with-their-metabolisms

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 28 February, 2016, 02:15:19 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35679377 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35679377)
BBC journalists return to 'normal' life.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Canardly on 28 February, 2016, 07:44:23 pm
Caught a chill thinks. Hot and cold, shaking, aches and pains, feeling generally 'off' and muzzy head ache.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 28 February, 2016, 09:43:33 pm
Pondering going back to that nice GP to say "antibiotics clearly killed some bacterial gakk but I am still virally unwell and it's now 4+ weeks and I'm getting really tired of it" even if it's to get a sick note to work to say there's nothing I can do except rest as much as possible... Not sure I'm ill enough to justify being signed off just low-level crappy so I am struggling.

Could also get avamys mega snot spray out of them as I think killing some snot might help everything else...  Worst doc can say is nothing that she can do but document it for my sodding employer if anyone winges.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Canardly on 29 February, 2016, 11:26:10 pm
If that is Norovirus they can send it back to the depths of hell where it came from. Horrible.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 01 March, 2016, 08:39:38 am
I hope you are feeling better soon barakta  :)
Another water infection with add cold for me  :'( . roll on summer  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 01 March, 2016, 10:59:42 pm
I've suspected for a while that the rise in diabetes can't really be explained by diet, and other environmental factors play a role.

http://www.sciencealert.com/exposure-to-air-pollution-makes-rats-put-on-weight-and-messes-with-their-metabolisms
Interesting one! I put on around 90lbs in a couple of  years after I moved to my current Pit, (next to the A6 on a bottleneck of traffic with the bridge being the only main route out of the area only 100 yards away).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 02 March, 2016, 03:12:00 pm
Canardly hope the grim has stopped.
Cycleman hope the docs are dealing with the causes of these infections (rather than leaving you months)

I'm feeling a bit better but still not 100%. I'd like a new right arm, this one's been spazzed up for nearly a week, very boring!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 02 March, 2016, 06:42:30 pm
The doctor just says that the infection s are caused by the presents of the cathier .
Can't Kim fettle you a new right arm barakta  :demon:  seriously I hope it settles down OK for you as soon as possible ☺
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 03 March, 2016, 11:39:35 pm
Quelle surprise about the infections being caused by catheter. Any chance of them inserting rockets up the hospital to make them do appropriate tests and moves to get you catheter free?

Sadly robot arms aren't that great. I've resorted to drugs which work but make me ill to see if that helps. That or I'll go for the give it a good thumping which does sometimes rebooterise it all.  8 days and counting but as all my other joints are still crunchy and bolloxed I'm going to blame hormones and scowl.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 04 March, 2016, 07:42:52 am
see the last episode of the brain on iplayer, hopefully available with subtitles, for experimental arm directly wired to the brain and under mind control :o
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 04 March, 2016, 10:27:52 am
Two months before I get the pressure test's then we will see if anything can be done  . I hope you're arm settles down . I had visions of a cyborg barakta righting universal uni wrongs  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 04 March, 2016, 12:15:52 pm
Barakta already is a cyborg.  She just doesn't like to get all Kevin Warwick about it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 04 March, 2016, 04:14:28 pm
 ;D .
 I am worried that there something wrong with my leg's. I was not cycling for 6 weeks but was able to build my fittness back with no real discomfort but since I have had 3 week's of in January I am getting muscle pain in the top of my thighs .I have ridden a few25/35 mile ride's with Jonathan notp and while not pain free it hurt's when. I try and put the power in.
Yesterday I rode 42 mile's at a reasonable pace for me and today I am finding painful to ride to the local shop  :( . long itchington is not that far away but if I am struggling unloaded now I am scared that I will fail to do the 77 miles .
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 March, 2016, 04:27:10 pm
I'm wondering if your bladder and antibiotic issues are causing mineral and other problems, which will settle when (hopefully) you can exist without that flippin' catheter!
Suspect if intermittent self-catheterisin is needed, things would be OK.

I don't know if your tube is changing your saddle posture and the way you use your thigh muscles...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 04 March, 2016, 05:05:35 pm
I am ridding a trice trike hellymedic so no saddle to worry about. The position is the same with or without the tube.. Is this something that I could improve with vitamin supplements?. I would obviously speak to my doctor first :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 March, 2016, 05:11:00 pm
Vitamin supplements are unlikely to do any harm. Whether they do any good is moot.
Catheters, anaesthetics and bladder issues did funny things to my Dad so I'm pondering...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 04 March, 2016, 05:42:39 pm
I had just finished my last post and the doctor called  ::-) .He says the bladder infection I have may not respond to the antibiotics He proscribed for me so he is giving me some which could interfere with my citalopram with a very remote chance of heart problems and also can cause direar   :o . I wonder if I can manage without the citalopram for 7days
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 March, 2016, 05:45:18 pm
I really know naff-all about citalopram and feel you should discuss things with you GP.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 March, 2016, 05:48:08 pm
Hmm, I took citalopram for a while. Stopping taking it abruptly was NOT advised
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 04 March, 2016, 05:52:11 pm
OK I will follow doctor s order's. Thank you for your thoughts hellymedic and mrcharly  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 04 March, 2016, 08:19:33 pm
Saw the consultant hand surgeon today about the lump on my thumb. She doesn't know what it is, has referred me for an ultrasound with the words "bizarre lump" on the referral, and thanked me for coming in with something moderately interesting.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 04 March, 2016, 08:27:01 pm
Saw the consultant hand surgeon today about the lump on my thumb. She doesn't know what it is, has referred me for an ultrasound with the words "bizarre lump" on the referral, and thanked me for coming in with something moderately interesting.

Hopefully not like that 'moderately interesting' episode of Enterprise where Trip accidentally shags an alien, gets pregnant and grows nipples on his wrists...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 04 March, 2016, 08:40:20 pm
Quote
has referred me for an ultrasound with the words "bizarre lump" on the referral
Do we get a photo so we can all do our own online diagnosis for you?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 04 March, 2016, 09:48:04 pm
Hmm, I took citalopram for a while. Stopping taking it abruptly was NOT advised
+1 (actually +lots&lots) - even reducing it gives me the eebies
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 04 March, 2016, 09:51:02 pm
I'm slowly coming to the unfortunate conclusion that a longer than usual bike ride at the beginning of the week will lead to a resurgence of depression symptoms by the middle of the week which subside by the end of the week.
Happened twice now - not good, and not helping my plans to get Audax-fit this year.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 06 March, 2016, 09:38:27 am
^^^ Tell me about it. It takes me 3 months to get over the "back-to-the-cowshed" feeling that follows a 1000k.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tonyh on 06 March, 2016, 09:47:00 am
...It takes me 3 months....

Any tips about minimising it would be valuable (of course), but it's likely to be a mystery.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 06 March, 2016, 12:23:32 pm
Quote
I'm slowly coming to the unfortunate conclusion that a longer than usual bike ride at the beginning of the week will lead to a resurgence of depression symptoms by the middle of the week which subside by the end of the week.

This sounds like the endorphins are kicking up but then you are getting a rebound.

Any chance of doing an hour on the turbo on Wednesday to just boost the endorphins again?  Alternatively are there any dietary changes you could make or a vitamin supplement that might help.  If you are on statins then a lot of people (with no scientific evidence) swear by Co-Q.

It is difficult though to maintain the bliss of a long ride for the rest of the week.
 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 06 March, 2016, 02:02:38 pm
...It takes me 3 months....

Any tips about minimising it would be valuable (of course), but it's likely to be a mystery.

If I knew... really, I think the only solution is to do something else challenging.  In 2007 I followed up PBP with a couple of Alpine cols and Mt. Ventoux and felt great.

It's when I go back home and seem to remember every crack in the tarmac, every bit of gravel and every beer-can in the ditch that the naus sets in.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 06 March, 2016, 03:56:53 pm
Quote
I'm slowly coming to the unfortunate conclusion that a longer than usual bike ride at the beginning of the week will lead to a resurgence of depression symptoms by the middle of the week which subside by the end of the week.

This sounds like the endorphins are kicking up but then you are getting a rebound.

Any chance of doing an hour on the turbo on Wednesday to just boost the endorphins again?  Alternatively are there any dietary changes you could make or a vitamin supplement that might help.  If you are on statins then a lot of people (with no scientific evidence) swear by Co-Q.

It is difficult though to maintain the bliss of a long ride for the rest of the week.
Not been caught in the statin-trap yet.

The turbo on Wednesday is a very good plan and quite do-able.
I've booked to do a DIY-by-GPS tomorrow (just a 50km to try out the tech at my end) which shouldn't be over-taxing, although it will be cold. I will go to the gym on Wednesday with Mrs M. I normally do housework on Wednesdays while she's there, so there's a double-win situation.

Dietary changes? Mrs M is feeding me Slimming World fruit-fibre-and-fart meals, so I'm getting lots of vitamins (from the veg) and a fair amount of protein (I suspect), it could be that I'm missing out on the simple carbohydrates that work as fuel.

All good stuff - thanks! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 09 March, 2016, 09:43:42 pm
;D .
 I am worried that there something wrong with my leg's. I was not cycling for 6 weeks but was able to build my fittness back with no real discomfort but since I have had 3 week's of in January I am getting muscle pain in the top of my thighs .I have ridden a few25/35 mile ride's with Jonathan notp and while not pain free it hurt's when. I try and put the power in.
Yesterday I rode 42 mile's at a reasonable pace for me and today I am finding painful to ride to the local shop  :( . long itchington is not that far away but if I am struggling unloaded now I am scared that I will fail to do the 77 miles .

Update , I am now over half way through the new course of antibiotics and my leg's are feeling much better. So it seems that the urnine infection was somehow effecting my leg muscles .   now I need to get some miles in ☺
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 March, 2016, 01:47:33 pm
Freedom! Sort of, I have a brace to wear, but I can take it off, shower etc. Hand is very very weak and will be so for a while.

Yes very nice nurse practitioner took pains to explain I've made remarkable progress, that normally my injury has to have a plate fitted.

Bad news is that brace isn't compatible with typing - but at least ergo keyboard gives correct support.

My forearm has withered remarkably. Looks emaciated next to my right arm.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 10 March, 2016, 01:52:21 pm
^^^Crikey yes, I can remember trying to lift my forearm when sling and braces came off after my broken collar-bone.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 March, 2016, 02:16:50 pm
What is the price of half a dozen oysters? I seem to have coughed up a few today and I'm looking for a buyer.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 10 March, 2016, 02:30:07 pm
As long as there's an R in the month.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 10 March, 2016, 07:26:17 pm
The cathier is still causing me woe  ::-) . it is sore . at first I could manage any soreness with canesten cream and a lubricant used alternaly but now whatever I use does not seem to make a lot of difference . oh well another call to the doctor in the morning  :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 March, 2016, 08:00:55 pm
ouchy, cycleman.  Hope you get help in the morning.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 March, 2016, 11:01:39 am
I think I've been misdiagnosed.

The consultant I saw fixated on 'vestibular migraines' because I'd complained of dizziness. He ignored the other symptoms. The list here: http://www.webmd.com/migraines-headaches/hemiplegic-migraine-headaches-symptoms-causes-treatments (http://www.webmd.com/migraines-headaches/hemiplegic-migraine-headaches-symptoms-causes-treatments)

Propranolol isn't listed as a treatment for hemiplegic migraines. The NHS lists several things here, including butterbur extract/petadolex http://www.nhs.uk/ipgmedia/national/migraine%20action/assets/hemiplegicmigraine.pdf (http://www.nhs.uk/ipgmedia/national/migraine%20action/assets/hemiplegicmigraine.pdf)
I wonder about getting butterbur extract from somewhere and just trying it. Don't seem to have much to lose. All studies into its use are positive, yet it isn't prescribed here!

This week I've had 5 major episodes in less than 48hours. I can't go on like this.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 13 March, 2016, 10:02:50 pm
Ever since the cold I had in mid-December, I've had a permanently snotty nose. Steam inhalations haven't helped. So I bought a neti pot and it seems to be doing the trick.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 14 March, 2016, 10:38:38 am
Feeling a bit beaten up after winching myself over some hills on fixed on yesterday's run down to the Quantocks.

Circuit training tonight is a non-starter.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 16 March, 2016, 09:08:37 am
The pain at the back of my right thigh appears to be a torn muscle, incurred while trying to line up bolt-holes in the arm & back of a POCS* armchair the other day.  Found a lump this morning.  It gives me a dull jab with every step and probably wouldn't appreciate pedalling too much.

Comfy chair, though.

*Piece Of Chinese Sh*t.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 20 March, 2016, 05:49:26 pm
Ever since the cold I had in mid-December, I've had a permanently snotty nose. Steam inhalations haven't helped. So I bought a neti pot and it seems to be doing the trick.

I'm glad it's working for you but the thought of doing that gives me the squicks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 March, 2016, 09:21:47 pm
I'm finding it surprisingly unsquicky. As long as you keep breathing through your mouth while you do it, there's no drowning.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 20 March, 2016, 09:29:04 pm
I think having drugs dropped up my nostrils (I was upside down) when I was a child probably doesn't help my squicks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: SteveC on 21 March, 2016, 05:37:33 pm
So, I have a bad back. Sufficiently bad that I go the quack's this morning. (I think I did the initial damage a fortnight ago, but I was working away last week.)

I have serious1 painkillers.
I have serious anti-inflammatories.

But...

No running, no alcohol and....

no cycling.  :-\ :( >:( :-[

1: for certain values of serious. I'm sure he could have given me stuff which would let me see unicorns and float a few inches off the floor if he'd really wanted to.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 March, 2016, 02:35:18 pm
GN Physio says I'm making really excellent progress with my arm/wrist, doing everything right
BN He says a year from the time of the accident to fully recover and I'm unlikely to get back full range of movement

BN Fri night I had a seizure in my sleep. Allegedly (I don't remember). Second time in last 6 months, worse than previous one.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 29 March, 2016, 02:49:11 pm
Glad arm is going well even if that won't mean full recovery.  Bugger re second seizure in your sleep, that does not sound good at all.  Hoping the neurobods have some ideas!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 31 March, 2016, 10:25:19 am
Saw the consultant hand surgeon today about the lump on my thumb. She doesn't know what it is, has referred me for an ultrasound with the words "bizarre lump" on the referral, and thanked me for coming in with something moderately interesting.
Ultrasound today. Radiologist no more certain than the hand surgeon but thinks possibly a displaced sesamoid. So I have to go back to hand clinic.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 31 March, 2016, 09:19:49 pm
Displaced sesamoids! I had those in my feet. Well, I still have one of them. One was removed when I was 12. The other then stopped hurting.

My current ailment is a very, very sore arse. My sacroiliac joint, to be precise, at the bottom of my spine. It's been throbbing away since 3pm and I can't sit down. I wonder if it's related to my recent nasty flu-lurgy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: benborp on 01 April, 2016, 03:18:47 pm
Sore arse? Oh! Snap! Although I know exactly what the cause is in my case. Two neat, thumb sized friction burns either side of the coccyx. First I knew of them was as I lowered myself into a nice hot bath after a tough volleyball session.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 02 April, 2016, 05:59:56 pm
Friction burns on your arse from volleyball :o
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 02 April, 2016, 06:07:16 pm
My left lower leg's buzzing.  Feels sort of like my foot's resting on something that's vibrating with a 1-second-on-1-second-off cadence, but it's coming from inside the leg (I can't localise it more than "somewhere between my calf and my toes") Muscle tension and position have no effect.  Moving around masks the sensation.  Doesn't feel like a random muscle twitch, the frequency's much higher, and no, it's not in time with my heartbeat.

It's done this a few times now, for a couple of hours after I've ridden a bike.  Odd.

 ???
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 02 April, 2016, 08:24:07 pm
Sciatica?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 02 April, 2016, 08:37:42 pm
Yeah, I was thinking it was probably neurological.  It's stopped now, of course.  Weirdly, it's happening on both recumbent and uprwrong.  I'll probably continue ignoring it until it stops and I forget, or the symptoms become more serious.  In the event that I end up getting diagnosed with some horrendous leg disease, I'll be able to search for these posts...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Hot Flatus on 02 April, 2016, 09:10:42 pm
I've pulled a muscle in my neck  trying to turn my head round too far to investigate a spot on my back.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 April, 2016, 08:55:40 am
BN Fri night I had a seizure in my sleep. Allegedly (I don't remember). Second time in last 6 months, worse than previous one.

Bugger. But how do they know - blood test?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 April, 2016, 08:22:08 pm
BN Fri night I had a seizure in my sleep. Allegedly (I don't remember). Second time in last 6 months, worse than previous one.

Bugger. But how do they know - blood test?
I had a witness, both times. Justv started on topiramate.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 03 April, 2016, 10:05:01 pm
BN Fri night I had a seizure in my sleep. Allegedly (I don't remember). Second time in last 6 months, worse than previous one.

Bugger. But how do they know - blood test?
I had a witness, both times. Justv started on topiramate.

Hope it works for you, and you can find a drug to target the specific seizures.  in our case with a very generalised seizure activity, it's been hard to find a drug that works.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 03 April, 2016, 10:10:57 pm
My new recumbent will be along in due course, but in the meantime and on the turbo, I've been having a lot of pain in my thumbs, and a tennis or golfers elbow type pain in my forearms up towards the elbow,mostly right

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 03 April, 2016, 10:24:17 pm
My new recumbent will be along in due course, but in the meantime and on the turbo, I've been having a lot of pain in my thumbs, and a tennis or golfers elbow type pain in my forearms up towards the elbow,mostly right

Any suggestions?
Ulnar nerve?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 April, 2016, 08:23:11 am
My new recumbent will be along in due course, but in the meantime and on the turbo, I've been having a lot of pain in my thumbs, and a tennis or golfers elbow type pain in my forearms up towards the elbow,mostly right

Any suggestions?
Been wielding a screwdriver a lot lately?

The general recommendation is rest.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 04 April, 2016, 08:56:08 am
@ElyDave: Gout.

My own reason for coming in here: it looks like our club prez has come up in the heart attack sweepstake. Intense pain behind the sternum and loss of energy.  Still ambulant and articulate but on the fast track to the cardio dept. OK, I'm a client there already, but I had to be diabetic for 30 years to manage it; he did it all on his own. Well, his wife helped.

Meantime I'm off to the gastropod tomorrow to have a tube shoved down my throat. 3rd time in 9 years: first two I elected to stay awake, this time they're going to put me out. Haven't had a general since I was 6. That time I awoke spitting blood; this time probably not.

What a wunnerful year this is.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 April, 2016, 01:08:15 pm
Slugs and snails... ;) ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 04 April, 2016, 01:11:49 pm
With a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 04 April, 2016, 04:37:13 pm
@ElyDave: Gout.

My own reason for coming in here: it looks like our club prez has come up in the heart attack sweepstake. Intense pain behind the sternum and loss of energy.  Still ambulant and articulate but on the fast track to the cardio dept. OK, I'm a client there already, but I had to be diabetic for 30 years to manage it; he did it all on his own. Well, his wife helped.

Meantime I'm off to the gastropod tomorrow to have a tube shoved down my throat. 3rd time in 9 years: first two I elected to stay awake, this time they're going to put me out. Haven't had a general since I was 6. That time I awoke spitting blood; this time probably not.

What a wunnerful year this is.

Gout, unlikely in just the thumbs? I've had my big toe joints investigated but that was bone spurs.

I'm thinking more likely the nerves, or tendonitis.  I don't like rest.

Good luck with the endoscopy, having had that once, I'll pass this time.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 05 April, 2016, 03:17:43 am
Ely Dave
How old are you?

Pain in the base of the thumb over the age of 50is almost universal. Over 50% of women over the age of 50 will have x-ray evidence of arthritis and men seem to be catching up.

Any activity which puts the thumb into a flat position wrt the hand will stress the CMC joint and cause some pain.

Again it is all down to weight distribution and position on the bike.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 05 April, 2016, 06:58:10 am
Chris, I'm 42
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 05 April, 2016, 09:57:01 am
Gout can get you in virtually any joint; it just needs a backwater where uric acid crystals can accumulate.  Although if you're not metabolically challenged at all tendinitis is more likely.  A few years back I got vile tendinitis in one wrist after fitting new STI levers a little too high.  It still catches me if I use a cooking knife at the appropriate angle.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 06 April, 2016, 10:18:28 am
At 42 you are young for arthritic pain but give it another few years.
I would suspect either tennis elbow or de Quervains. Although if it is mainly on the bike then pressure on the thumb joint may be responsible.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 06 April, 2016, 02:39:09 pm
I suspect a combination of things.  Thumb grip is intermittently painful depending on what I'm squeezing and how hard.

I imagine it's probably a combination of more handwriting, more cycling, adding weights into the workouts, use of secateurs etc in the garden probably all just manifesting itself more when I'm on the bike.  It seems worse on the turbo, possibly because I'm not shifting hand/body position so often.

Anyway N+1 recumbent is on order, so there's that to look forward to.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 11 April, 2016, 02:31:34 am
It's 2-30am and I can't sleep. TEH BADD HEDD is making me too nauseous to lie still without crying over the 19 year, 361 day long Migraine. Sitting up however makes me feel sea sick with the Meniere's making "Up" a moving direction. I'm starting to get the "Opt out" thoughts again and it feels more thought through this time. Sorry to whinge, miserably, at anybody stuck reading this.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 11 April, 2016, 04:15:32 pm
It's 2-30am and I can't sleep. TEH BADD HEDD is making me too nauseous to lie still without crying over the 19 year, 361 day long Migraine. Sitting up however makes me feel sea sick with the Meniere's making "Up" a moving direction. I'm starting to get the "Opt out" thoughts again and it feels more thought through this time. Sorry to whinge, miserably, at anybody stuck reading this.

I hope you feel better today 'Dog x
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 11 April, 2016, 07:59:32 pm
I hear your desperation and hope that things improve.  Your problems sound horrendous.  I have no other words.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 12 April, 2016, 01:35:52 pm
Hang in there PD.

The hood contact point callus on my right hand has split, its quite sore now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 12 April, 2016, 07:03:54 pm
Sorry for the moan, but thanks for listening anyway.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 17 April, 2016, 10:22:21 am
Started feeling really, really ill while on holiday last week in Minorca. It felt like the mother & father of all chest infections. After a phone call to the Nationwide Travel Insurance people (absolutely ace service) I went to the nearest hospital Urgencias where I was xrrayed, blood tested, and examined and diagnosed with a viral chest infection and given mega-strength Ibuprofen and fizzy Acetycysteine to take.
I held my good humour together throughout the holiday for Mrs M, but I nearly killed various passengers on the RyanAir flight home!
I'm now starting to feel slightly more human.

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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: DrMekon on 17 April, 2016, 10:38:01 am
Been on steroids and antibiotics for a week whilst on holiday. Held out well enough to run 92km last week. Got back home and came off the drugs. Planned to ride 100km at 160w on Zwift. Could barely hold 150w. At 80km my PC did an annoying update which killed ANT+. I've never been so relieved. This morning, my PF is down 50l/min, and doing it was like doing circular breathing - lots of green custard.

Back on the antibiotics. Stupid bronchiectasis lungs.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 April, 2016, 11:17:21 am
Oxygen is really important.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 18 April, 2016, 08:39:37 am
Suffering from thumb-picker's cuticle. Ouch. Grin. Ouch.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 18 April, 2016, 12:08:30 pm
Eye no.2 was grafted on Friday.  Doing a bit better than eye no.1 was at the same point in time.  Happily, early indications are that the optical prescription will be almost exactly the same at about +1.75 (IME it doesn't change a whole lot after the first ten days) which means I can buy cheap glasses for reading, even if I need "proper" glasses for everything else.  Currently looking a bit like The Terminator, thobuts.
Title: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 20 April, 2016, 07:50:08 pm
I've gone nearly a week without alcohol - six days, to be precise. This is easily my longest dry spell for over two years. I had started the year with the intention of cutting booze consumption down drastically but I have singularly failed in that.

I don't think I am what you'd call 'dependent' but my drinking has certainly been in the realms of 'misuse' over the last couple of years. This has largely been driven by stress - both at home and at work. Or maybe that's an excuse. I don't know, but I do know that my health has suffered - I've put back on most of the weight I lost and I'm not sleeping well (one of the vicious ironies of drinking to help you relax).

My base fitness is still there but my stamina is massively depleted, cycling uphill is painful and running has gone back to being not fun, like it was before I lost weight.

I've got to the point where something has to give. And I don't want it to be my heart.

I'm also hoping that cutting out the booze will help me finally shake off this lingering chest infection that I've had for a couple of months, put an end to the recurring gastric reflux pain (the cause is a hiatus hernia, but the symptoms are brought on by excessive eating & drinking), and general feelings of weariness.

One day at a time...


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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 20 April, 2016, 10:11:39 pm
If you're into reminders and validation the Dry January app allows you to record your non-drinking and calculates money saved as well as offering not - drinking tips and factoids.
(I know, but I'm still 'in' in April and I think the daily tally / check / reminder helps)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LEE on 20 April, 2016, 10:22:55 pm
I've gone nearly a week without alcohol - six days, to be precise. This is easily my longest dry spell for over two years. I had started the year with the intention of cutting booze consumption down drastically but I have singularly failed in that.

I don't think I am what you'd call 'dependent' but my drinking has certainly been in the realms of 'misuse' over the last couple of years. This has largely been driven by stress - both at home and at work. Or maybe that's an excuse. I don't know, but I do know that my health has suffered - I've put back on most of the weight I lost and I'm not sleeping well (one of the vicious ironies of drinking to help you relax).

My base fitness is still there but my stamina is massively depleted, cycling uphill is painful and running has gone back to being not fun, like it was before I lost weight.

I've got to the point where something has to give. And I don't want it to be my heart.

I'm also hoping that cutting out the booze will help me finally shake off this lingering chest infection that I've had for a couple of months, put an end to the recurring gastric reflux pain (the cause is a hiatus hernia, but the symptoms are brought on by excessive eating & drinking), and general feelings of weariness.

One day at a time...


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Good luck.

Booze can be very insidious.  Even when it's not alcoholism it can be incredibly "habit forming" ("just a few glasses to relax", "just a couple of glasses because it's bloody Wednesday" ...etc, and, before you know it, it's a 7 day habit with an excuse for every occasion).

I find excuses very easily if it's in the house so I don't have it in the house Mon-Thu.  I don't crave it, or miss it, but I'll drink it if it's there. 
I try to keep it to a Fri-Sun thing and even then I've cut back a bit.  I think as I get older I'd prefer to have more weekend and less hangover.

Like I say, good luck.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 21 April, 2016, 01:40:19 pm
If you're into reminders and validation the Dry January app allows you to record your non-drinking and calculates money saved as well as offering not - drinking tips and factoids.
(I know, but I'm still 'in' in April and I think the daily tally / check / reminder helps)

Thanks for the tip. That could be useful.

Good luck.

Cheers! ;)

Quote
I find excuses very easily if it's in the house so I don't have it in the house Mon-Thu.  I don't crave it, or miss it, but I'll drink it if it's there. 
I try to keep it to a Fri-Sun thing and even then I've cut back a bit.  I think as I get older I'd prefer to have more weekend and less hangover.

Yeah, easy access to booze makes it almost impossible to resist for me. And cheap supermarket beer offers don't help. My real problem is that I can't have 'just one' as long as there is more than one available. Avoiding having it in the house is the only way to avoid the temptation to drink it. Luckily my wife is not a drinker so that makes it a bit easier.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 21 April, 2016, 05:06:01 pm
Sore throat. Bugger.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 23 April, 2016, 09:04:30 pm
Can drive (in daylight, at least) without glasses.  Didn't expect that.  Am learning to use eyes together again as they've effectively been "decoupled" for six months, with only one of them being in focus.  It takes a bit of effort but they are beginning to work in tandem.  The focusing muscles in the right eye are now so strong that it snaps into focus, even quite close up, if the left eye is closed.  Left eye is comparatively weak as yet but it will get there.

Something I didn't realise is that most people who aren't short-sighted are actually slightly long-sighted (by which I mean hyperopic*, not presbyopic). It's very rare for an object at infinity to be perfectly in focus on the retina with the eye muscles completely relaxed; you just aren't built to that sort of precision.  The eye nearly always has to adjust a little by focusing itself, but you never notice.

*where, with the eye relaxed, it focuses beyond infinity like some modern AF camera lenses
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 24 April, 2016, 11:20:07 am
Good luck, poorly folk.

I'm ill again. Asthma triggered by dust from our building work and disruption from a forced change to my medication (now sorted but v frustrating). Plus motion sickness while out in the van trying to escape the dust, luckily I had a camping mug handy to puke into.  :sick: Followed by an ocular migraine which lasted much of the night. Lovely.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 24 April, 2016, 02:09:34 pm
Hope you feel better soon Peli, that combo of things sounds unpleasant too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 25 April, 2016, 11:30:20 am
Thanks barakta. It sucks. Woolly's doing a grand job of looking after me and keeping the house and dog going.  Best wishes to all those under the weather.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 27 April, 2016, 05:26:26 pm
One of my people at work has just sent me an X-ray of his broken kneecap.  Ouch.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 28 April, 2016, 05:00:04 pm
If you're into reminders and validation the Dry January app allows you to record your non-drinking

I bought a few beers yesterday - felt like I needed something to take the edge off work-related stress, but didn't actually drink any, largely because I was mindful of being able to tick off another day on the app. So it's proving useful motivation. 13 days without booze. That's most unusual. Thanks again for the recommendation.  :thumbsup:

Might have one this evening, but I've got to pick my son up from the theatre so it will have to wait until after 9.30pm anyway. I have in the past allowed myself 'just the one' when I know I've got to drive later, but I'm now making it a principle of having absolutely no alcohol at all before driving.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 28 April, 2016, 05:02:42 pm
I'm now making it a principle of having absolutely no alcohol at all before driving.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: citoyen on 29 April, 2016, 01:31:34 pm
I'm now making it a principle of having absolutely no alcohol at all before driving.

 :thumbsup:

I'm not going to lie, I have stretched the definition of 'just the one' on occasion, and accepting the truth of that is part of coming to terms with my relationship with alcohol.  :-[
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 05 May, 2016, 08:16:22 am
My série noire continues: gastritis, heart, bursitis and now last Saturday's bad landing when I nipped over our garden fence has revived an old ankle problem that has me limping. I tried the bike round the village yesterday and every third pedal stroke sent daggers up my leg.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 May, 2016, 11:46:22 am
I've been discharged from the physio department. Very pleased with everything I've done with my arm and wrist. I'm not. I still can't do a lot of things, it's misshapen and weak.
I grumble that I can't make a fist but I can wriggle my fingers and demonstrate.
The physio says "The fact that you can move your fingers like that is just amazing. When I saw your xrays I didn't think you would ever regain full control of them."

bah humbug, I guess I shouldn't complain. But I'm bloody whinging anyway.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 07 May, 2016, 09:21:15 am
^^^With time you'll probably get most of it back.  The Inlaw Paw broke his wrist a few years back and while he still has full control, he can no longer feel the fingertips and his hand always feels ice cold.

My own whinge is that while my cycling form is gradually returning, I still get mild angina in the climbs, depending on duration and intensity - sustained climb @ 135 bpm >> ache, shorter climb @ 150 bpm >> ache.  It's perfectly ignorable but I'm not sure what'll happen if I ignore it for too long, nor yet what "too long" might be.  Also not sure if continued training won't eliminate it.  I'll find out.

The funny thing yesterday was that while most of the climbs brought on the ache, towards the end of my ride I had a ~15 km stretch against a freshening wind, with a 4% climb over 2 km shortly before the end. My heart was running at 140-150 on the flat with a peak of 160 on the climb, and nothing hurt.  Kinda weird.

Rather wrung out today.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 07 May, 2016, 10:07:46 am
Mr C, that does sound a bit crappy. It might be worth a visit privately to a specialist hand physio, as they might be able to advise on everything possible you can do even if it's still below expectations.

Hands are precious and I don't think people realise how crippling even a mild impairment to dexterity can be in day to day life.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 May, 2016, 01:31:48 pm
I realised the end of my ulna was waving around in 'mid air'. Pushed it back to where it should be. Regained about 10degrees of hand movement immediately. Just need to work on strength so things stay where they should be.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: benborp on 07 May, 2016, 04:30:41 pm
mrcharly, find a specialist physio. In my experience the threshold at which an oversubscribed outpatient physio department will declare rehabilitation as complete for an upper limb can be way below what is possible. There's a fair chance you'll be able to increase the speed and extent of your rehabilitation.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 07 May, 2016, 09:57:33 pm
Back in 1981 I had an "Interesting Meeting" with a stone wall, solid soil behind it, from 15 feet in the air at around 65mph.
I was taken to St James in Leeds and my father fought really well, I was unconscious, to stop them from amputating my left hand s the wrist was so mangled they said I would never get any feeling or movement in it. I get a fair bit of pain occasionally but, hey I'm typing this! They put some wrought iron work where the ickle bones used to be and I only have slightly restricted movement.
I was out of the hospital in 5 days and on the 8th day I was, arm in a cast, riding a motorbike again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 09 May, 2016, 12:52:27 pm
Bodies are amazing. It's really unbelievable what they can recover from.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Oaky on 09 May, 2016, 09:18:32 pm
Why do healing scabs itch so bastard much!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 May, 2016, 10:01:30 pm
I don't know but would guess that:

1) New skin is very sensitive.
2) New skin is flexible and mobile.
3) Scabs are rigid and rigid vs flexible will cause some shearing, which is irritating.
4) Scabs may not allow heat and sweat to escape as well as normal skin, causing a 'heat rash' type itchiness.
5) inflammation is part of the healing process and some substances produced by inflammation are known to cause itching.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 09 May, 2016, 11:23:14 pm
I don't know but would guess that:

1) New skin is very sensitive.
2) New skin is flexible and mobile.
3) Scabs are rigid and rigid vs flexible will cause some shearing, which is irritating.
4) Scabs may not allow heat and sweat to escape as well as normal skin, causing a 'heat rash' type itchiness.
5) inflammation is part of the healing process and some substances produced by inflammation are known to cause itching.
6) LURGY!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 09 May, 2016, 11:53:57 pm
7) Scabs often result from repeated scratching of already itchy skin.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 10 May, 2016, 07:20:33 am
8) You caught something nasty from an STI lever.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Oaky on 10 May, 2016, 11:15:27 am
7) Scabs often result from repeated scratching of already itchy skin.

Actually,  thinking about it - the scabs in question were indeed the result of previous scratching.  Bullseye by Kim, I think!

I was too busy wondering if this was the body's way of telling me it no longer needed the scab to think about that aspect... (previous experience suggests that usually you find that the body was still quite attached (physically!) to the scab, but only when it's too late and you've picked most of it off).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 10 May, 2016, 03:18:32 pm
7) Scabs often result from repeated scratching of already itchy skin.

Actually,  thinking about it - the scabs in question were indeed the result of previous scratching.  Bullseye by Kim, I think!

The credit really goes to my ankles, and the Long Itchington midges.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 10 May, 2016, 03:47:22 pm
Geographical nominative determinism!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: orejas on 11 May, 2016, 11:29:03 pm
Anyone with experience of sportmans hernia operation? Any ideas about how long the recovery will be before I can get back on the bike?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: DrMekon on 12 May, 2016, 11:03:41 am
No, my hernia was in my belly button. However, read the threads on here. It seems highly variable how quickly people recover. It was much worse for me than I expected, but others felt able to ride home. I should have had the whole 6 weeks off, but others feel better almost immediately.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If you have keyhole, buy some simethicone, some co-codamol, some lactulose and some ibuprofen. Between that lot, you'll clear the gas, numb the pain, and avoid the unmentionable side effects of surgery+pain relief.

Good luck
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 May, 2016, 03:37:33 pm
I realised the end of my ulna was waving around in 'mid air'. Pushed it back to where it should be. Regained about 10degrees of hand movement immediately. Just need to work on strength so things stay where they should be.
Bugger it's gone out again. Holding veg while chopping. very distinctive, the bone bulges out. Had to do some more veg prep again and it bruised in a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 May, 2016, 03:59:21 pm
I realised the end of my ulna was waving around in 'mid air'. Pushed it back to where it should be. Regained about 10degrees of hand movement immediately. Just need to work on strength so things stay where they should be.
Bugger it's gone out again. Holding veg while chopping. very distinctive, the bone bulges out. Had to do some more veg prep again and it bruised in a couple of minutes.

Do you think you should see if someone can fix it, to stop it popping out, or do you think this is too much trouble or too risky?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 May, 2016, 04:52:50 pm
I'm going to see if I can get seen by the hospital again. It's basically dislocating and I can't see how the joint willbdevelop stability if it is constantly moving.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 May, 2016, 06:39:26 pm
Seems a wise move.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 14 May, 2016, 09:01:57 pm
I'm going to see if I can get seen by the hospital again. It's basically dislocating and I can't see how the joint willbdevelop stability if it is constantly moving.

As a connoisseur of dislocating joints I hope orthopaedics take that seriously and sort it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 17 May, 2016, 01:33:03 pm
Got fitted with an ECG Holter today, with instructions to go for a ride, so I did.  At around 200 metres from home pain started under left armpit, propagated across to breastbone and then, when after 3 km I started into the 6% hill out of our valley, downwards and a bit into the left arm.  About halfway up it was too intense for fun so I turned tail.  By the time I got home I felt fine.

The dumb thing is that all the time I felt as strong as ever and still do.

It'll be interesting (as in times) to hear what the cardio unit think, once they get round to it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 May, 2016, 01:36:44 pm
Sounds terrifying to me.

The strength bit puzzles me. When my dad got heart problems (resulting in quad bypass), the first main symptom was weakness.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 17 May, 2016, 02:07:55 pm
Yeah, when I had my run-in back in December I felt generally horrible all over.  I suppose I'll be on the whole stress-test/coronarography track now - a bit of a bore but necessary.  OTOH if everything's negative I'm still left with an acute chest pain every time I go out.

Could be pericarditis but I've no idea why.

Do you feel aneurysms before they pop?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 17 May, 2016, 06:00:30 pm
That should not happen.  i would get a second opinion from a competent wrist surgeon.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 May, 2016, 09:03:37 pm
That should not happen.  i would get a second opinion from a competent wrist surgeon.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7674/27010212611_b397d98d90_k.jpg)

That's now the 'normal' appearance, when it isn't out. If I'm not careful, the end of the ulna, circled, comes out about another 1/2", bruises appear and then there is a thump to get it back in.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 17 May, 2016, 09:31:55 pm
'Kin hell.. Definitely seek referral to suitable Orthopod ASAP. That is NOT right at all. Looks terrible even when in joint...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 17 May, 2016, 09:33:02 pm
I apologise that i have not kept up exactly with what has happened to you.  I can very easily start dispensing medical advice without enough info and have to be aware of GMC rules.

However it is abnormal for the distal end of the ulna to jump out of the sigmoid notch and then jump back in when pushed.  That is an unstable or frankly dislocated Distal radio ulnar joint until proven otherwise.  If it has followed a fracture of the wrist then the supposition would be that you have either torn the supporting structures or that the radius has healed in a position which is not compatible with distal radio ulnar joint stability.

I would see your GP and ask for referral to a major wrist surgeon.  If you tell me where you live, (town not actual address), I can recommend some people.

Please bear in mind that this advice comes on the basis of a short description and a single photograph so may not be worth the computer screen it appears on and I may be scaring you for no reason.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 May, 2016, 09:47:32 pm
It's a known that all the supporting structures were torn - my ulna and radius head came past the carpals. They were confident that they'd relocated it all successfully. I was always concerned by a bulge in that place and kept being told by the nurse, then the physio that it was just swelling (which there was present). When the swelling went down the bulge was obviously solid but I could push it around. None of them have seen that.

I'm in York. I have a direct number for the fracture/ortho clinic and will phone them tomorrow, see if I can get directly in rather than via GP again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 17 May, 2016, 10:37:02 pm
Seems fair to try to go straight back to fracture clinic.
Failing that, try to ask your GP to get you back to see the orthopaedic people. It seems evident to all here that your wrist is unstable and needs stabilisation.

Hope you get a satisfactory outcome!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 18 May, 2016, 06:19:25 am
To the best of my knowledge there is not a well known wrist surgeon in York.  Your nearest would be in Leeds.  I would be looking at a referral to Doug Campbell or Rob Farnell at the LGI or privately if you do not get something sorted.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 May, 2016, 07:58:57 am
ty for enquiring/thinking about it. I'll see what response I get (hopefully not just sent back to physio).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 18 May, 2016, 08:13:07 am
It's a known that all the supporting structures were torn - my ulna and radius head came past the carpals. They were confident that they'd relocated it all successfully. I was always concerned by a bulge in that place and kept being told by the nurse, then the physio that it was just swelling (which there was present). When the swelling went down the bulge was obviously solid but I could push it around. None of them have seen that.

I'm in York. I have a direct number for the fracture/ortho clinic and will phone them tomorrow, see if I can get directly in rather than via GP again.

"It's just inflammation, Mrs. Lincoln."

I can still remember the bastard intern looking at the angular bulge halfway along my right clavicle and saying "ça, c'est rien", and the orthopaedic surgeon who backed him up until it was "too late to fix".  I've suffered from it ever since.

Boot the bastards' arses until it's fixed.

I'm off to hand in my Holter now. Got my bovver boots on.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 May, 2016, 10:35:37 am
Seems fair to try to go straight back to fracture clinic.
Failing that, try to ask your GP to get you back to see the orthopaedic people. It seems evident to all here that your wrist is unstable and needs stabilisation.

I got the "You've been discharged therefore you need to see your GP to get a referral" routine. So I'll need to wait a week to see a GP, then 3-6 weeks for a non-urgent referral to orthopedics at best.

Maybe I should just trip up and dislocate it. Or peel a few carrots (which is all it took to dislocate it last weekend) and not relocate it myself.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 18 May, 2016, 10:58:32 am
Funny how Kafka comes to mind at such times.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 18 May, 2016, 11:32:15 am
A&E time if they're pulling the weeks from referral. That's a bloody pisstake but not surprising cos everyone seems to be kicking folk off their books as fast as poss.

My "call us any time" from RNOH turned into that when I needed them too, same stupid rules.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 May, 2016, 12:24:58 pm
Peel some carrots, pitch up to A&E with it dislocated; if that's too painful, take picture of it in and out of joint and present these.
Chris' suggestion of private hand surgeon seems wise if possible.
Don't tell anyone I told you this...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: perpetual dan on 18 May, 2016, 01:01:22 pm
Crikey, good luck with sorting that.

Standard issue GP appointments grumble here.
I need a routine appointment, to discuss something non urgent but can't be left forever (discovering family history of diabetes). First appointment they can give me is 2 weeks away in the next town. But if I can phone at 830, they can probably fit me in that day - no need for on the day appointments to be urgent. It'll be Friday before I'm free between 830 and 9 to do the phoning.  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 May, 2016, 03:50:06 pm
Saw the consultant hand surgeon today about the lump on my thumb. She doesn't know what it is, has referred me for an ultrasound with the words "bizarre lump" on the referral, and thanked me for coming in with something moderately interesting.
Ultrasound today. Radiologist no more certain than the hand surgeon but thinks possibly a displaced sesamoid. So I have to go back to hand clinic.
Hand clinic no more certain that radiologist, but have agreed that as a) we're not sure what it is and b) it's bothering me, we will chop it out. So I'm going for chopping-out surgery sometime. I've said I'm not available before mid-July, so fingers crossed asap after that. Stitches and no work for two weeks following, then stitches out and back to normal. I am so excited about 2 weeks paid sick leave, it's unseemly. It might help me get a grip on my depression too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Manotea on 18 May, 2016, 04:09:20 pm
Still nursing some wrist damage sustained during an 'off about six weeks back. It makes itself known when I flex my wrist forward and put weight on my hand (think pressups). After my off I had that and some tightness in some finger tendons, and just put it down as a sprain/bruising. The fingers are fine now but the wrist seems to be a longer term project. Theres no acute pain, just a general pain thats says whatever youre doing, stop it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 18 May, 2016, 06:03:09 pm
Actually you have been discharged does not mean that.  You have 3-6 months (varies a bit) to ask to be seen again even when discharged and they cannot refuse.  Phone the consultant secretary, tell her that there is a possibly major problem with your arm and either you are seen on the next orthopaedic clinic by the consultant or she can give you the name of the chief executive and the telephone number for PALS.  Also ask for her name and state that if you have a serious problem as a result of the delay you will be putting in a formal complaint about the delay giving her name.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 18 May, 2016, 06:08:23 pm
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Consultants' secretaries always a useful route into things if you know your rights. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 18 May, 2016, 06:40:57 pm
Well it's not my hay fever. Looks like I've caught the office cold. *grumbles in a nasal fashion*
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: CrinklyLion on 19 May, 2016, 12:12:54 am
There is an accidental fortuitous silver lining to me scaring the pants off myself with the impressive trip-up-over-thin-air-and-nothingness and upbuggering of my "good" ankle a couple of weeks back.  The lovely nurse practitioner in A&E who let me know that there was no apparent fracture on the x-rays (although, because I was wheeled to cubicles and x-ray by one shift but out of x-ray and back to cubicles by the next due to the precise time that my 4 hour wait in chairs ended, she did go back to take a second look and get a second opinion when she saw the ankle itself in person, so to speak, for the first time!) said she thought she should make a physio referral.  Lo and behold, a letter arrived, and an appointment for barely 2 weeks post injury was today.  At said appointment I confessed to the very pleasant Karl that I felt like a bit of a fraud because after 4 or 5 days of RICE the injured ankle was back to not far off the normal day-to-day level of mild creaky decrepitude.  Although the 'bad' one has been dreadful, as has the knee and the hip on that side.

So now I'm getting a 6 week attendance at their gym-clinic-for-hopalongs for the injured 'good' ankle with a message writ large in the notes that the not-injured 'bad' one is significantly more movement-restricted and miles weaker and less stable, so work on that one too.  Last time I sought medical advice for said 'bad' ankle (best part of 8 years ago, I reckon) I was basically told to see if it improved when I stopped breastfeeding and to lose many stones.

That's two medical practitioners in a row who haven't just said "it's cos you're fat, piss off and lose weight".  That's a record breaking run!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 19 May, 2016, 12:52:33 pm
Anecdotally, there seems to be a growing awareness amongst the medical profession that pissing off and losing weight is significantly easier if your mobility isn't afflicted.  Long may it continue.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 19 May, 2016, 01:06:45 pm
Anecdotally, there seems to be a growing awareness amongst the medical profession that pissing off and losing weight is significantly easier if your mobility isn't afflicted.  Long may it continue.

Rather annoyingly, body composition is mostly determined by kitchen-based choices, not gym-based. Proof once again, there is no god.  >:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 May, 2016, 01:21:20 pm
Anecdotally, there seems to be a growing awareness amongst the medical profession that pissing off and losing weight is significantly easier if your mobility isn't afflicted.  Long may it continue.

Rather annoyingly, body composition is mostly determined by kitchen-based choices, not gym-based. Proof once again, there is no god.  >:(

Disability has a distinct advantage here.
It's usually too much effort for me to get food out of the cupboards and fridge. I can do these things all buy myself but mostly ICnBA.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 19 May, 2016, 01:24:35 pm
Clearly the worst case is where you have enough mobility to get to the pies without trouble, but going out and doing something more interesting than sitting around eating them is an epic undertaking.


(Chris is of course right.  I only lose weight through cycling because exercise is an appetite-suppressant, and you're not going to achieve anything with that by cycling for transport.)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 May, 2016, 01:28:31 pm
Anecdotally, there seems to be a growing awareness amongst the medical profession that pissing off and losing weight is significantly easier if your mobility isn't afflicted.  Long may it continue.

Rather annoyingly, body composition is mostly determined by kitchen-based choices, not gym-based. Proof once again, there is no god.  >:(
There is probably a hierarchy to this:

Genes > eating habits > exercise

I take after my mum's side of the family and they were thinnish. I'm never going to be a huge fat person. I'll get one of those silly-looking skinny old-man-pot-bellies. That's just genes. My daughter takes after her mum - she's always going to be wide in the hips and will put on weight easily, as will her partner. My son is like me and weight melts off him.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 19 May, 2016, 01:50:59 pm
Genes need to be expressed though, so some genetic predispositions can be avoided or reduced I think.

I'm pretty sure I'm genetically disposed toward hypertension (partly due to A1ATD ) - my Dad died at 67 of a hemorrhagic stroke, and both my sisters are hypertensive. If I'm not very careful, I am too - especially during exercise.

But if I lay off the sauce, keep an eye on my diet, and get enough exercise - I can keep it in check. Just. I can also put on fat really quickly - I had no problems at all putting 10Kg on after PBP last year; but equally - it comes off again if I give it the right conditions (I won't say what - LMT might be reading - but you can probably guess).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 May, 2016, 02:09:25 pm
Clearly the worst case is where you have enough mobility to get to the pies without trouble, but going out and doing something more interesting than sitting around eating them is an epic undertaking.


(Chris is of course right.  I only lose weight through cycling because exercise is an appetite-suppressant, and you're not going to achieve anything with that by cycling for transport.)

The biscuits are within two feet but in a closed tin and cupboard. ICnBA.
The computer mostly demands free hands, which a TV would not.

Genetically, I am probably on the 'well-nourished' side, but not huge. Fat distribution is mostly 'hip and thigh' with little visceral fat.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 19 May, 2016, 03:02:22 pm
Ultrasound exam & stress ECG tomorrow.  Yay.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 19 May, 2016, 03:04:12 pm
Ultrasound exam & stress ECG tomorrow.  Yay.

I wish you well for that.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 May, 2016, 07:50:15 am
Thanks, Helly. Top marks to cardiologist for fitting me in within 24 hours of me calling for Holter results (all OK).  Normally there's a month's wait.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 May, 2016, 12:34:16 pm
Relieved to hear thing sare normal so far but concerned there are unanswered questions.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 May, 2016, 03:53:49 pm
And after the tests they're still normal apart from a 1 mm ST depression that appeared a couple of times at max effort** but went away and didn't come back.  However, the pain was there, so now I'm off to the coronarography shop, date to be announced.

One little thing crossed my mind.  My right shoulder being crocked, I use my lever espresso machine with my left arm.  Haven't used it much lately, though, and it never hurt before.

To be continued.

**not a lot these days - 180W. He used to take me up to 300.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 May, 2016, 04:46:20 pm
Chronography next Monday.  Rats. Now I'll have to do my VAT declaration at the weekend.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 08:32:46 am
Aye well, it seems that my long-distance days are done: coronary arteries in a precarious condition.  From now on it'll be beta-blockers, vasodilators, pentacles, invocations, burnt offerings of albino tadpoles and adoration of the God of Constipated Carper-Slippers.  My cycling ambitions now are limited to getting out of this lavatory-bowl of a village without "God" pulling the chain.

Please add any suitable expletives you think fit, I papered the walls with my lot yesterday.

Just as well I bought a banjo.  Might lash out on a mouth-organ too while I still have the breath.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 24 May, 2016, 08:34:15 am
 :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 May, 2016, 08:50:06 am
sh!7 Sorry to hear that.

calling Kim to the electron-boosting velocipede-mobile
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 09:19:11 am
^^^ Thanks, both.

Maybe a Cancellara Special might be an idea.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 May, 2016, 09:45:50 am
Electron-boosting packs even come in folding versions these days. Bus transport plus electrons can put pretty destinations and cols still in reach.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 09:51:12 am
Any idea if they can be retrofitted?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 24 May, 2016, 10:06:12 am
Ask AWL, I think he did a retro-fit to one of his machines.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 24 May, 2016, 10:27:39 am
Any idea if they can be retrofitted?

Some can, depending on the bike, this is one system

http://www.vivax-assist.com/en/produkte/technik/nachruesten.html

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 10:34:54 am
Ahah... and funnily enough their dealer in France is where I bought my last bike.

Alas, my seat tubes are all 27.2 and they need 30.9 minimum.

Thanks all the same, I'll have a poke around when I'm feeling better.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 May, 2016, 11:02:06 am
I can imagine at the moment you are feeling just a teensy bit devastated.

There are some stonkingly good hub motor systems around, particularly if you are after assistant voles rather than complete replacement.  From the sounds of things, you will need assistance for cruising and mostly complete replacement for hills. 250W or so then. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 May, 2016, 11:58:06 am
Sorry to hear this T42.
There are quite a few former cyclists around here.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 24 May, 2016, 12:56:13 pm
Really sorry T42.

Although my bike is rather at the other end of the scale than yours (a recumbent trike, heavy), I fitted an electric motor myself (in the bottom bracket) and it works really well. It means I don't have to work too hard to get up hills but turn the motor off when I'm riding normally. Something to think about in the future perhaps. If your bit of France is anything like my bit of Germany, E-bikes are the largest market segment now. Everyone is buying them.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 01:23:30 pm
Thanks, folks.  Thinking it over, I've been down the beta-blocker/vasodilator lane before, and while it was at times very disagreeable on the hills I did get up them.  The main difference is that this time the stenosis can't be stented without blocking off a subsidiary network, so that I'll just have to ride with it and hope.

E-bikes are becoming common here. Several times recently I've gasped up hills only to see very unathletic-looking types cruising up ahead, sitting upright and putting no visible effort into it. Galling, that.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 24 May, 2016, 01:25:53 pm
E-bikes are becoming common here. Several times recently I've gasped up hills only to see very unathletic-looking types cruising up ahead, sitting upright and putting no visible effort into it. Galling, that.

The way I see it, it's a vast improvement on unathletic-looking types sitting upright and putting no visible effort into it with the more traditional 4-wheeled motor vehicle.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 01:46:36 pm
Oh aye.  The point is that you don't (usually) try to overtake the 4-wheelers.

...though a chum of mine overtook a bus on the way down from the Weißeegletcher once.  I stayed a bit back and didn't go over 75 kph.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 24 May, 2016, 01:55:35 pm
Oh aye.  The point is that you don't (usually) try to overtake the 4-wheelers.

Racing electric cyclists is a bit like racing people on Bromptons - whatever the outcome you've lost.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 03:44:37 pm
:thumbsup:

Just back from the doc, who called the cardiologist who's calling the hospital, and tomorrow he'll call me to tell me when they can put in a stent.

My doc looked at the options and said the only viable one was the stent.  And when I said I'd already decided my long-distance career was over he replied "don't be so sure".

I like that.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 24 May, 2016, 03:54:39 pm
Ich drücke dir die Daumen!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 24 May, 2016, 04:03:59 pm
:thumbsup:

Just back from the doc, who called the cardiologist who's calling the hospital, and tomorrow he'll call me to tell me when they can put in a stent.

My doc looked at the options and said the only viable one was the stent.  And when I said I'd already decided my long-distance career was over he replied "don't be so sure".

I like that.

I do too. We're looking forward to riding with you again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 May, 2016, 04:14:10 pm
Thanks, Dave.  Dunno if I could keep up 22.5 kph any more, though.

@Auntie Helen: Cheers, I press to me also the thumbs.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 24 May, 2016, 05:20:20 pm
I wouldn't be quite so pessimistic. The last time we rode together, you were going fine and UAFs mostly avoid the really lumpy stuff. Besides, we tested a nice Fleche Velocio route for next year and a 361km total would suit us.

Alternatively, tandems have completed PBP Audax before now, so other UAF brevets would be a piece of cake. A Fleche de France on solo at touriste pace would also be fun.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: dave r on 25 May, 2016, 09:01:55 am
:thumbsup:

Just back from the doc, who called the cardiologist who's calling the hospital, and tomorrow he'll call me to tell me when they can put in a stent.

My doc looked at the options and said the only viable one was the stent.  And when I said I'd already decided my long-distance career was over he replied "don't be so sure".

I like that.

In 2008 I had 4 stents put in due to a close encounter with angina, I'm still pedalling, I'm not as fast as I was but I can still do the distance, typical ride 50-60 miles and I can do longer distances.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 May, 2016, 09:36:08 am
I wouldn't be quite so pessimistic. The last time we rode together, you were going fine and UAFs mostly avoid the really lumpy stuff. Besides, we tested a nice Fleche Velocio route for next year and a 361km total would suit us.

Alternatively, tandems have completed PBP Audax before now, so other UAF brevets would be a piece of cake. A Fleche de France on solo at touriste pace would also be fun.

Right enough, 2013 was great fun.  That 600 was good too, even though I did see it through a camera.  Pascal and his worn tyres... he's a tax inspector if that's anything to do with it.

I think the missus would have a canary fit if I suggested a flèche, but it's early days yet.  My form is abysmal right now: if I get stented this week (here's hoping) there's another 3 weeks off, then 4 weeks of re-ed before they set me free - and they might still impose some curtailing witch's brew.  The surgeon explained that stenting this blockage would shut off a minor subnet that branches off immediately before it, so that bit of heart would die, leaving the rest to take up the load. It remains to be seen if that would be enough to irrigate quads at full bore.  Getting back is going to be "interesting".
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 25 May, 2016, 09:55:44 am
Easter 2017 is the third weekend mid-April, so plenty of time to get fit and hopefully better conditions than for an early Easter.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 May, 2016, 09:58:23 am
Yup.  A wee bit of domestic psychological prep as well...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 May, 2016, 02:32:15 pm
Zut. Surge says no stent, too delicate "for now".  Drugs.

Dunno what "for now" means: wait until I'm totally wrecked or what?  Climbing 2 flights of stairs brings on pain.

We are not happy.  :demon: :demon: :demon:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 May, 2016, 09:17:09 am
Them there potassium-channel activators don't half lay you out.  I haven't felt this shitty since the Inlaw Paw lost his Trinitrin patch in the shower and I picked it up on my foot without noticing.

And this should help me ride a bike? What planet do they buggers live on?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 May, 2016, 10:06:44 am
It can take a while for the meds to stabilize. Patience, youngling.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 May, 2016, 12:45:18 pm
It can take a while for the meds to stabilize. Patience, youngling.

Yeah. In the meantime a one-minute extraction from 18 gm of coffee in the Bialetti just about countered the hammering head.

What worries me is that the artery in question seems to be closing at a rate of knots.  The amount of exercise needed to bring on pain has diminished by half within a week.

P.S. Youngling indeed.  Second childhood, OK, but youngling is downright insulting. <sickly grin>

...where's my bloody rattle gone?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 May, 2016, 01:15:30 pm
On the bright side, the doc hasn't made you give up coffee.

I hope you are getting some monitoring. Doesn't sound like improvement at all.

P.S. Youngling indeed.  Second childhood, OK, but youngling is downright insulting. <sickly grin>
'tis a Star Wars reference, m'lud. No, they are not a popular beat combo.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 May, 2016, 02:52:34 pm
Ah.  A reference to H. Ford Esq.?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 May, 2016, 02:56:22 pm
A group of talented innocents, strong in the force, ruthlessly slaughtered by one who is seduced by the dark side. Killed before their prime by evil forces.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 May, 2016, 03:36:24 pm
I know the feeling.

Our club prez is in worse trouble: bundle of His getting iffy, like a dodgy timing-belt.  He already had one side cutting out sporadically, now the other one's sputtering as well.  If they both go at the same time he starts to fall over, and if they don't cut in again it's curtains.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 May, 2016, 01:08:01 pm
Just burst into tears at work. I think I'll tell the GP I don't want to decrease my meds next week as we'd agreed.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 May, 2016, 01:15:44 pm
Just burst into tears at work.
Is that not an occupational hazard, in your line of work? There must be only so much serious down a person can be around before getting a bit sniffley.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 May, 2016, 01:24:54 pm
Can't remember the last time I cried at work, other than crying with laughter when Mary bought boots without realising one was a 6 and one was a 9 and then wondered why they felt different. You get into a mindset where you can appreciate situations are awful and you want to fix them, but you remain a little bit detached. On the other hand, several of us have had work-stress flakies lately and I'm the latest.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 27 May, 2016, 01:27:12 pm
Mary bought boots without realising one was a 6 and one was a 9 and then wondered why they felt different.

*snorks*  *wipes keybaord*
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 27 May, 2016, 01:41:14 pm
^^^ Har!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 May, 2016, 02:26:48 pm
It was the best thing that's ever happened at work.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 28 May, 2016, 09:16:56 am
Trinitrin patches now.  "They'll probably give you a headache but don't take anything for it because then you won't know if your heart is hurting". And yes they did and yes it does if I start hauling the garden hose about. And they itch too.

This staying-alive business is a pain in the ass. I'm not telling them, though, because they'd probably give me a Tabasco suppository for it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 31 May, 2016, 12:01:45 pm
Apparently it's possible to fracture a rib through sneezing too hard. I was wondering why my left chesticle was hurting quite a bit.  :facepalm: Doc confirmed fracture (or fractures) today. Bother!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 June, 2016, 12:54:52 pm
Wondering vaguely if a 15mg/day nitroglycerin patch wouldn't make an emergency tyre boot. They look big enough.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mattc on 03 June, 2016, 01:33:23 pm
Wondering vaguely if a 15mg/day nitroglycerin patch wouldn't make an emergency tyre boot. They look big enough.
you HAVE to try.

" ... and so I stuck a nitro-glycerine patch on it and limped home."
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 03 June, 2016, 01:48:10 pm
Having the first of three appointments for a root canal, crown and (different tooth) filling replacement in an hour. The rest over the next month. This is going to suck.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: benborp on 03 June, 2016, 01:57:34 pm
Well, to be honest, it's unlikely to chew.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 June, 2016, 02:05:16 pm
Wondering vaguely if a 15mg/day nitroglycerin patch wouldn't make an emergency tyre boot. They look big enough.
you HAVE to try.

" ... and so I stuck a nitro-glycerine patch on it and limped home."

"Unfortunately, having removed the patch from his chest to repair his tyre, he had a heart attack."
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 03 June, 2016, 02:10:38 pm
Having the first of three appointments for a root canal, crown and (different tooth) filling replacement in an hour. The rest over the next month. This is going to suck.

It might not be too bad. IBTDT0TS.

I hope the inconvenience/expense are the worst features!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 03 June, 2016, 03:57:33 pm
actually it wasn't too bad, and the crown might wait six months or so. back in two weeks but I think I've had the worst of it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 June, 2016, 04:11:34 pm
Not so bad. Charles has had to wait 60-odd years.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 03 June, 2016, 04:33:17 pm
Charles has already waited 67½ years...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 June, 2016, 04:59:38 pm
Yebbut his mum only became queen when he was ~5.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 03 June, 2016, 06:13:19 pm
True!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 June, 2016, 10:16:07 am
Poor old Inlaw Paw is suffering from a triple whammy: depressed thyroid function, ditto kidneys (although 40% is par for a 99-yr-old) and an as yet unspecified infection, hence the serious oedema filling up his legs.  Doc has been brilliant, though, and after this morning's visit things should slowly improve - "but you're in for a bad week".

Also had a natter about my hearty problems. The aim is to get me back on the bike and right now I get angina just running up the stairs, so he agreed that things weren't exactly ideal and we should plan an angioplasty asap even though it will involve occluding a minor subnet.  Since I haven't felt any loss of strength during even severe angina the loss of function will be minimal and I'll be able to get back on the road instead of acting the loppy stocking round here.

To add to the pile my son has just been diagnosed with T2 diabetes, at the same age as I was.

It's all cheer at Maison T42.

Life presents a dismal picture
Home's as gloomy as the tomb
Poor old Dad has got a stricture
Mother has a fallen womb
Brother Bob has been deported
For a homosexual crime
And the housemaid's been aborted
For the forty-second time.

(Tune: Deutschland Über Alles)


- Robertson Davies, on whose name be praise.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 June, 2016, 05:39:42 pm
Well that was brilliant.
Wait nearly 2 months for appointment with neurologist. Suddenly get early appointment due to cancellation. Go to appointment. "Where is MrsC? Why isn't she here?" "Um, I wasn't told she needed to be here." "Well I need to speak to her as well, there isn't much point you coming in by yourself."

Well, doctor, nobody told me what the appointment was for, or that anyone needed to come with me. What a bloody waste of your and my time. Was I supposed to be a mind reader?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 13 June, 2016, 05:58:43 pm
In their eyes, yes.  They can never be wrong so it must be you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Legs on 16 June, 2016, 01:27:09 pm
Having had a giant cell tumour removed from the knuckle of my left-hand ring finger a few years ago, I've been noticing similar swellings and tenderness in the knuckles of the middle and index fingers of the same hand...  :-\  Might pay my GP a visit...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 16 June, 2016, 07:33:40 pm
I have got my cathier changed this morning at last and my.. "may" pressure test is confirmed for the 17 July  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 16 June, 2016, 10:45:11 pm
my.. "may" pressure test is confirmed for the 17 July  ::-)

Fucksake.   >:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 17 June, 2016, 09:05:02 am
Cardio yest. Good news is that my coronary arteries still retain 70% of nominal capacity. Bad news is that, like global warming, some bits are much worse off than others and some are getting worse fast despite rigid adherence to diet.  Change of meds was best cardiologist could do without consulting surgeons.

Just now I'm on nitro patches and stress or heart > 100 bpm triggers angina, so switching today to a different vasodilator that he thinks might allow me to ride. Looking at its properties I have my doubts.

Hoping to learn on Monday whether I can have an angioplasty.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 17 June, 2016, 04:11:13 pm
two weeks ago today: root canal.

today: temporary crown.

two weeks' time: proper crown, and a filling replacement.

 :'(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 19 June, 2016, 04:17:46 pm
Took heart up to ~120 on the turbo. Painless, except for legs.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 19 June, 2016, 05:55:42 pm
I stopped my Citalopram ten days ago, after whittling them down to 10mg every other day. My head is still 'swimming in a sea of jelly' and I'm constantly tired. But I'm buggered if I'm going back on the stuff just to relieve what must be temporary withdrawal symptoms. But I do wish it'd stop!


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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 19 June, 2016, 10:48:35 pm
two weeks ago today: root canal.

today: temporary crown.

two weeks' time: proper crown, and a filling replacement.

 :'(

Well that lasted well. Temporary crown fitted on Friday afternoon, loose Sunday afternoon, disintegrated Sunday evening. Hopefully they can squeeze me in tomorrow.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 June, 2016, 12:57:19 pm
New blood glucose meter consistently reads ~20 mg/dl higher than the old one. Shit.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 20 June, 2016, 01:17:09 pm
does it need calibrating?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 20 June, 2016, 01:17:45 pm
The next question is 'Which one is right?'
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: DrMekon on 20 June, 2016, 01:25:15 pm
Fiddling around with Bronchiectasis meds - omeprazole gives "gastric distress", but covers up symptoms reflux, sore mouth and loss of voice from carbocisteine. Gastric distress is shitty, but also, I am anaemic, and other than a pre-op blood test, no one has discussed my VB12, magnesium, calcium or iron levels.

Right now, one dose of omeprazole is enough to "get the party started", so I'm steering clear, but my mouth feels like it's covered in paper cuts, espresso is off the menu, and my voice goes weird if I talk too much, which I am prone to do.

On the upside, coming off omeprazole has gotten rid of the feeling of chronic fatigue.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 June, 2016, 02:29:00 pm
does it need calibrating?

A priori they're factory-calibrated.

The next question is 'Which one is right?'

Well, the pharmacy said that they weren't allowed to sell my previous one, nor yet supplies for it,  any more, even though they still had them in stock. The manufacturer is offering a free upgrade from mine and one other model, so I'd guess the new one is better.  Which means that my diet will need to be revised in the unpleasant direction.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 June, 2016, 02:36:10 pm
Fiddling around with Bronchiectasis meds - omeprazole gives "gastric distress", but covers up symptoms reflux, sore mouth and loss of voice from carbocisteine. Gastric distress is shitty, but also, I am anaemic, and other than a pre-op blood test, no one has discussed my VB12, magnesium, calcium or iron levels.

Right now, one dose of omeprazole is enough to "get the party started", so I'm steering clear, but my mouth feels like it's covered in paper cuts, espresso is off the menu, and my voice goes weird if I talk too much, which I am prone to do.

On the upside, coming off omeprazole has gotten rid of the feeling of chronic fatigue.

Bronchiecstatis sounds vile - sympathies.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 20 June, 2016, 06:07:43 pm
New blood glucose meter consistently reads ~20 mg/dl higher than the old one. Shit.
mg/dl - blimey that's a bit old fashioned. I started using mmol/l in the 1980s (or are you in USAnia?)


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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 21 June, 2016, 01:14:22 pm
T42 is in France and they tend to be keen on deci-stuff.

Turkey often prefers centi-stuff.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 June, 2016, 02:39:41 pm
A decilitre is 100ml so that [whatever] can be quoted as [whatever g %], which is what was done in days of yore.

Seems ironic that the purveyors of the Système Internationale are not using the SI units that millimole used most of his working life...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 June, 2016, 03:07:42 pm
Part of my right big toe has gone numb (pins and needles in response to changes in temperature, no sensation when the affected area is poked with a small screwdriver).  It's been like that for over a week now.  Mostly the weight-bearing patch on the outer edge and underside, which is admittedly fairly well-callused, but also some of the area to the side of the nail, which isn't.

As a habitual shoe-wearer, it's only a problem when I go barefoot or try to operate flip-flop-like shoes, where the lack of tactile feedback is causing me to stumble occasionally.  It seems entirely plausible that I'll injure it when barefoot and not notice, too.

There's no pain and the left toe appears unaffected.  Circulation is normal.  I'm not diabetic.  So I'm filing this under "nerve damage from excessive walking in brand new Shimano sandals the week before last", in the style of those "What's still broken after PBP?" threads, and assuming it'll quietly sort itself out after a few months when I've got used to living with it.

 :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 21 June, 2016, 03:38:52 pm
New blood glucose meter consistently reads ~20 mg/dl higher than the old one. Shit.
mg/dl - blimey that's a bit old fashioned. I started using mmol/l in the 1980s (or are you in USAnia?)

I thought the UK changed so as to assert their independence. ;)

Although on second thoughts it's maybe just the march of medical obscurantism.  Mg and dl are easy to calculate with, but who the hell remembers what a mmol is?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 June, 2016, 03:53:38 pm
There's nothing obscure about moles, it being the natural way to count large numbers of things (or even Things, though https://what-if.xkcd.com/4/ (https://what-if.xkcd.com/4/) suggests that would be a bad idea).  Easier to calculate with as you don't need to care about the molecular mass of what you're counting...

Decilitres are just a way of obfuscating litres.  Millilitres make more sense, as that's a standard SI prefix.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 21 June, 2016, 03:59:28 pm
Moles: https://www.google.fr/search?q=moles&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=4VVpV7DZPJalVOmckIAK
Decilitres: https://www.google.fr/search?q=decilitre&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=alZpV8fAF5alVOmckIAK
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 June, 2016, 04:06:33 pm
Moles: https://www.google.fr/search?q=moles&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=4VVpV7DZPJalVOmckIAK

Point taken, but hopefully anyone interpreting a blood glucose level is either scientifically literate, or at least aware that there are two different standard ways of expressing the result even if the units themselves are treated as arbitrary hieroglyphics.


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Decilitres: https://www.google.fr/search?q=decilitre&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=alZpV8fAF5alVOmckIAK

Sure.  They're only marginally more obscure than centimetres, but like centimetres they still cause more trouble than they're worth when you start doing calculations with them.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 June, 2016, 04:20:17 pm
The obscurity of decilitres is cultural. In some places they're probably more familiar than millilitres. The obscurity of moles is scientific. Only the scientifically literate know what they are, and diabetes is not limited to them! For a start, what's the difference between a mole and a mol?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 June, 2016, 04:27:44 pm
The obscurity of decilitres is cultural. In some places they're probably more familiar than millilitres.

Interesting.


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The obscurity of moles is scientific. Only the scientifically literate know what they are, and diabetes is not limited to them! For a start, what's the difference between a mole and a mol?

As I say, the average diabetes patient need only be aware that more than one unit is used, and treat the unit as arbitrary hieroglyphics.  Which does leave them wondering if "mmol/liter" is the same as "millimole/litre", but that's fail-safe.

The average diabetes patient usually only needs to worry about that sort of thing when provided with a new piece of testing kit (presumably by a doctor or pharmacist, who will be scientifically literate), or when discussing their condition with FOREIGNS on the interwebs[1].

I expect non-medically-trained carers are caught out from time to time, but it's a relatively simple lesson to learn - you don't even need to know what a mole is for these purposes, just that it's a different measurement from a milligram, and often written "mol".


Also, I despair at the level of scientific education if people confronted with moles don't at least think "Oh, that's something we were taught about in science lessons, something to do with measuring chemicals, but I can't remember what."  Similarly, I don't expect the layman to know what an Ampere is, but would expect them to relate "Amps" to measuring electricity.


[1] For interweb purposes, everyone who isn't a USAnian is foreign and likely to be wise to such issues.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: IJL on 21 June, 2016, 04:37:04 pm
Its not just glucose levels that are expressed differently in the US, almost every clinical test is described in different units.  I have a physiology text book that was published in the US for the English speaking but not American bits of the world.  it has a large red warning sign on the spine with US crossed out.

The link shows US Vs Canadian units but at a glance the Canadian units are the same as the rest of the world 


http://www.ccpe-cfpc.com/en/pdf_files/drug_lists/normal_values.pdf
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 June, 2016, 05:28:41 pm
Sure, for patients and carers the units don't probably matter as long as they give easily handleable numbers – so ideally integers less than 100 – and they know to keep it between a and b. The danger is going to be when comparing with other systems, whether that be Nameronians or French.

I'm probably exaggerating the spread of decilitres, but I'd be amazed if a lot of people don't confuse mol(e)s with millilitres, especially considering ml are often abbreviated to mils.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 June, 2016, 05:38:17 pm
I'm probably exaggerating the spread of decilitres, but I'd be amazed if a lot of people don't confuse mol(e)s with millilitres, especially considering ml are often abbreviated to mils.

I confuse mils (leftpondian for 'thou') with millimetres on a regular basis.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 21 June, 2016, 05:50:26 pm
Since I have had the new cathier in on Thursday I am very sore. Doctor has put me on antibiotics.  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: IJL on 21 June, 2016, 05:57:58 pm
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Sure, for patients and carers the units don't probably matter as long as they give easily handleable numbers – so ideally integers less than 100 – and they know to keep it between a and b. The danger is going to be when comparing with other systems, whether that be Nameronians or French.

It rarely causes real issues in the UK, as far as I know everywhere apart from the US uses the same units and often you know the numbers that are normal without committing the units to memory.  I know the numbers for a whole range of clinical chemistry tests but I would have to check to know what the units are. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 June, 2016, 06:14:17 pm
I'm probably exaggerating the spread of decilitres, but I'd be amazed if a lot of people don't confuse mol(e)s with millilitres, especially considering ml are often abbreviated to mils.

I confuse mils (leftpondian for 'thou') with millimetres on a regular basis.  :facepalm:
Thou and thee..
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 June, 2016, 08:24:16 am
especially considering ml are often abbreviated to mils.
THAT is an awful habit
mils are something else entirely. A thousandth of an inch.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 22 June, 2016, 08:34:34 am
mmol/L vs mg/dL: the conversion factor is 18. Basta.

Anyway, my medical grumble of the day concerns the pleasures of adapting to a higher dose of vasodilators: the slightest effort or even stress sets my heart thumping, not fast but hard, and standing up too fast sets me reeling. 'Tain't no way to run a railroad.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: IJL on 22 June, 2016, 08:34:34 am
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mils are something else entirely. A thousandth of an inch.



Or 1/6400th of a circle
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 22 June, 2016, 12:34:43 pm
1/1000th of a mole is approx two of its front digging claws.
It will suddenly appear from its tunnel and raise those two claws to you.  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 June, 2016, 01:01:14 pm
especially considering ml are often abbreviated to mils.
THAT is an awful habit
mils are something else entirely. A thousandth of an inch.
It was the fave abbreviation of school biology teacher.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 22 June, 2016, 01:36:28 pm
Easily confused with millimetres.  Better use cc's.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 22 June, 2016, 03:01:16 pm
1/1000 of an inch is a ‘thou’.
1/1000 of a millimetre is a Micrometre or ‘Micron’. ( 1/1000000 of a metre )
39.37 microns to the thou.
A device for measuring the diameter of a wire, a sheet of paper or a human hair, is a micrometer.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 June, 2016, 10:51:59 am
jog jog jog. Hmm doing well, no soreness, I'll do an extra half k.

rip.

that's my achilles-calf muscle join. wtf.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 June, 2016, 01:15:36 pm
Oh f**k!
Mend well and fast, mrcharly!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 June, 2016, 03:55:04 pm
Ah go on, man, you're a glutton for it.  Mind you, I've come home from a 200 and torn a muscle coming downstairs.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 24 June, 2016, 03:56:26 pm
get well soon

And do what the doctors tell you.

It is now one week since my operation and I am using the arm more and more.  2 paracetamol and ibuprofen yesterday.  1 of each today.

Movement is better than expected.  The numbness is weird.  i have told patients about it for years and now I know!

I am due to spend an hour with the physio on monday.  I suspect i am going to be seriously bored and will end up teaching her how to do her job.  The ward physio prior to discharge did not even mention icing the wounds!  I was so shocked I actually pulled rank and commented.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 June, 2016, 04:39:15 pm
When I did it I thought I'd ripped the tendon. Feeling better today and I can hobble so it must be the muscle - I have no idea why. I was loping along on the flat on a good surface.

I'm starting to wonder if the omeprazole I've been taking for the past 5 years has weakened my connective tissues. Previously I had a reputation as being nearly indestructible. The fall that did my wrist in was minor but did a huge amount of damage, displacing bones, rupturing ligaments. I've been trying jogging and I'm struggling to get over 3.5km without tendon strain; yes I have done any running for years, I'm an experienced runner and used to rebuilding toughness and fitness.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 24 June, 2016, 06:38:57 pm
I am now being treated for a viral skin infection caused by the cathier. Antibiotics and fusiliers acid and cream  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 June, 2016, 07:43:26 pm
Oof! You deserve some health sometime soon surely.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 25 June, 2016, 07:13:19 am
It's not been the best year health wise so far as but there are people on here with much worse to contend with. I do not cope with pain very well and I am a little depressed at the moment. On the bright side the sun is shining this morning and my son is here this weekend. Get better soon everyone  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 25 June, 2016, 07:33:38 am
When I did it I thought I'd ripped the tendon. Feeling better today and I can hobble so it must be the muscle - I have no idea why. I was loping along on the flat on a good surface.

I'm starting to wonder if the omeprazole I've been taking for the past 5 years has weakened my connective tissues. Previously I had a reputation as being nearly indestructible. The fall that did my wrist in was minor but did a huge amount of damage, displacing bones, rupturing ligaments. I've been trying jogging and I'm struggling to get over 3.5km without tendon strain; yes I have done any running for years, I'm an experienced runner and used to rebuilding toughness and fitness.

I've had a real struggle building up from a bout of Achilles tendonitis, from ultramarathon training last year to be struggling at 4k earlier this year was very disheartening.  I've done it slowly and I'm now up to 2 x 7km this week on non-consecutive days.

Are you just trying to ramp it up too quickly?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 June, 2016, 10:12:44 am
I've had a real struggle building up from a bout of Achilles tendonitis, from ultramarathon training last year to be struggling at 4k earlier this year was very disheartening.  I've done it slowly and I'm now up to 2 x 7km this week on non-consecutive days.

Are you just trying to ramp it up too quickly?
It's possible - I started with v slow small jog steps for 1km, 2twice a week for two weeks, upped that to 2km. Then got proper shoes and took it to 3.5km and I'm stuck there.

I've taught track and field to a lot of kids along with the personal experience of running. It is possible that I'm expecting to recover too quickly for someone about to turn 50 but this seems extreme. Too many joint injuries from minor events and last year I was ok - I shifted (shovel and wheelbarrow, jogging) 4.5ton of sand in 3hours without soreness in one day. The year before transported about the same amount of broken brick and concrete from a house 100m down the road by barrow, running back with empty barrow. Only slightly sore back.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 June, 2016, 10:34:31 am
After a month's pussyfooting around with vasodilatory nostrums** my cardiologist finally got me a date for angioplasty: 7th July into hosp, 8th out. Procedure described as "delicate".  Looking around the house for old belt to clench between teeth.

**and various gentle remarks about Nero, Rome and fiddles.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 25 June, 2016, 10:46:55 am
Cystitis. Again.
No 400 for me this weekend. I think I'm up to 3 bouts this year - I really should start keeping a tally.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 25 June, 2016, 10:48:38 am
Get well soon fboab!
Cystitis is a misery...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 June, 2016, 01:06:58 pm
I've seen the surgeon, 3 nurses and a high-school work experience student. Nice chap (the surgeon).

Surgeon already knew what was wrong, from the last x-ray.

Hospital had cocked up with my wrist. The main fracture in my radius has healed at an angle, putting my whole hand at an angle to my forearm and displacing it relative to the ulna (hence the ulna flapping around in mid air).

The solution is to saw through my radius, cut a wedge shape, graft in some bone from my hip and fix it all in place with plates.

On waiting list for surgery, should take place in 2-3months.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 28 June, 2016, 01:56:15 pm
Was the work experience student nice? I don't suppose they squeaked!

Hope that the planned surgery fixes you well, eventually.
Sorry to hear it's come to this!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 June, 2016, 02:04:13 pm
WP student looked very earnest and serious. Certain to be a med student, but by 3rd year they'll be a dissolute alcoholic.

The surgeon was very clear that I don't have to go ahead with the surgery, but I can't ever expect any improvement without it. As things are, that means no weight bearing on left wrist, increasing issues and pain, loss of what strength I have and increased frequency of ulna dislocations. Never ever riding a drop-barred bike again and only upright bikes with braking on right side.

He's confident that the surgery will fix it but obviously it will have a considerable recovery period.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 28 June, 2016, 03:30:39 pm
Go for it notwithstanding.  When I did my collar-bone in 2002 I was persuaded not to have corrective surgery and I've been plagued by the consequences ever since.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 28 June, 2016, 04:02:29 pm
I suspected that was the case from your description.It is a fairly simple operation in good hands and has a relatively guaranteed outcome all other things being equal.  Do be prepared for a long recovery!  I tell my patients that it will take a year to forget about the operation and that it will take 6 months to be 95% back to normal.  take all the painkillers they offer you and stop smoking (if you do).  Certainly in the States many surgeons now will not do the surgery if you are an active smoker.

Good luck
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 June, 2016, 04:18:30 pm
Given that it has taken 6 months to get to not be able to take any weight on hand, 6 months to 95% of normal would be miraculous . . .

I don't drive, so that's not an issue. Non smoker, no blood thinners, etc, good circulation, no heart probs. Relatively slim around hips so harvesting should be easy . . . Ex-Perthes not an issue as not going anywhere near that area of hip.

Surgeon asked "Are you currently unable to do any normal activities?"
I responded "I was a keen cyclist and I'm now unable to ride a drop-handlebar bike at all.", to which he responded
"Well, that definitely needs sorting out."
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 28 June, 2016, 07:43:43 pm
The antibiotics finally appear to have kicked in   :thumbsup:. First pain free afternoon for 12 days.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 28 June, 2016, 11:01:11 pm
well for over a week now my guts have been upset

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GP has suggested Bowel Colic and given me an antiemetic to relieve the bloating and queasiness. Just waiting for it to kick in and hopefully set everything back to normal.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 28 June, 2016, 11:33:39 pm
Glad you have answers Mr C, I have had something very similar surgery wise on my left ulna once I outgrew the pins keeping my arm straight (no radius means arm grows bendy). They took a wedge and badgered it straight and bashed more pins in giving me great wolverine like X-rays.

I concur with Chris about pain relief, I had to have pethidine Intramuscularly cos it was bastard painful immediately post op. Fine 24hrs later tho, but I attribute that to my legendary pre-adult pain threshold of win!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 29 June, 2016, 07:46:48 am
+1. It's great to have a solution to look forward to, even if it is going to hurt and take time.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 June, 2016, 07:53:41 am
Glad you have answers Mr C, I have had something very similar surgery wise on my left ulna once I outgrew the pins keeping my arm straight (no radius means arm grows bendy). They took a wedge and badgered it straight and bashed more pins in giving me great wolverine like X-rays.

I concur with Chris about pain relief, I had to have pethidine Intramuscularly cos it was bastard painful immediately post op. Fine 24hrs later tho, but I attribute that to my legendary pre-adult pain threshold of win!
All this positive feedback; I'm glad I signed up then.

Do you have an adamantium radius now you've stopped growing?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 30 June, 2016, 09:12:08 am
Wore sandals for our 2-day summer last week and now my bursitis is back.  :demon:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 30 June, 2016, 12:52:15 pm
Glad you have answers Mr C, I have had something very similar surgery wise on my left ulna once I outgrew the pins keeping my arm straight (no radius means arm grows bendy). They took a wedge and badgered it straight and bashed more pins in giving me great wolverine like X-rays.

I concur with Chris about pain relief, I had to have pethidine Intramuscularly cos it was bastard painful immediately post op. Fine 24hrs later tho, but I attribute that to my legendary pre-adult pain threshold of win!
All this positive feedback; I'm glad I signed up then.

Do you have an adamantium radius now you've stopped growing?

http://www.barakta.org.uk/hand_xrays/ refers.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 June, 2016, 12:56:13 pm
Ah - used a hilti gun, from the looks of it

makes me feel a complete fraud, grumbling about my arm.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 30 June, 2016, 05:50:18 pm
I am now very depressed. Not only is the cathier soreness still bothering me but my back has gone and I was laying on my side on the paving slabs in the back garden for two hours waiting for the ambulance  :'(.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 June, 2016, 07:27:29 pm
That's cause for feeling a bit down!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 30 June, 2016, 08:55:36 pm
A good set of X-rays of radial club hand with wrist fusion and an interesting pollicisation.
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Post by: barakta on 01 July, 2016, 12:32:06 am
A good set of X-rays of radial club hand with wrist fusion and an interesting pollicisation.

Indeed :)  The fusion/centralisation of the left wrist was a complete pain, multiple attempts in 1982 (age 2), again in 1984 (age 4) until locum registrar did something which worked and a final straightening in 1992 (age 12).

How do they do centralisations in radial club hands these days to handle the growing child problem? Still multiple procedures or something else?

The index finger wasn't very good and was fused to the adjacent finger to the middle knuckle which is why the pollicisation is interesting. The X-rays explain why I have very limited strength and use in it. The little finger was considered for pollicisation but my surgeon decided if the procedure failed that I would lose the only good finger on that hand.

The right hand pollicisation is much better, surgeon used get me to demonstrate my thumb-finger pinch strength by getting his underlings to let me give them a nip which was rather stronger than they anticipated  :demon:.  Medics are also amazed I can do thumb to little finger which is apparently hard to get back, especially from 1986 surgery.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 01 July, 2016, 07:56:52 am
^^^ Reading that hurts. Bloody way to spend childhood. :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 01 July, 2016, 12:25:04 pm
The problem with surgery in 1986 was that inevitably the growth area was damaged leading to a very short forearm.  These days we use an external fixator to pull the wrist apart and lengthen the soft tissues so that the hand just slides across on top of the ulna and can then be stabilised more easily.  This leads to preservation of the growth plate and much less requirement for fusion.

my views of pollicisation are very much on whether the child wants pollicisation.  The child has to demonstrate that they are already functionally using the index finger in a fashion analogous to a thumb before I will even consider it. Hence I do somewhat less than my colleagues!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 01 July, 2016, 01:21:14 pm
^^^ Reading that hurts. Bloody way to spend childhood. :(

I think from barakta's perspective the ENT stuff (and general fail pertaining to her deafness) was a much bigger deal.  I suppose because having your arm in and out of plaster isn't that much of an issue when it's not all that functional to begin with.  It did at least give her a handy weapon...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 01 July, 2016, 05:08:05 pm
The problem with surgery in 1986 was that inevitably the growth area was damaged leading to a very short forearm.  These days we use an external fixator to pull the wrist apart and lengthen the soft tissues so that the hand just slides across on top of the ulna and can then be stabilised more easily.  This leads to preservation of the growth plate and much less requirement for fusion.

Yep, I have a substantially shorter forearm on the left and that does increase the level of impairment I experience and exacerbate the unstable shoulder on that side. I believe I was given the best opportunities realistically available in the 1980s and each generation sees improvements upon the previous ones, sometimes large ones so there's no point in getting hung up about it which some people I know do.

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my views of pollicisation are very much on whether the child wants pollicisation.  The child has to demonstrate that they are already functionally using the index finger in a fashion analogous to a thumb before I will even consider it. Hence I do somewhat less than my colleagues!

I have always been grateful that circumstances led to me being 6.5yrs old before my first pollicisation on my better right hand. I remember being old enough to consent and understand the implications of the procedure. The second left hand pollicisation was always going to have more marginal gains, but is more useful in the post-pollicisation construction than it had been before. 

Incidentally I've just found some video of me aged ~3, 6.5 and maybe 7.5 with a lot of my hands in shot which is very interesting to watch. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 01 July, 2016, 05:15:01 pm
^^^ Reading that hurts. Bloody way to spend childhood. :(

The ortho stuff was not generally very painful, I had a stupendously high pain threshold as a child and only took the 4 hourly paracetamol to shut my mum up. As Kim points out, plastercasts made great weapons against irritating siblings  :demon: :demon: :demon:

The ENT stuff was more annoying and numpties in the education system more so again. I got accused of being excessively pragmatic when I was 10 8) which I found most strange. It's the only childhood I have known and wasn't through anyone doing anything intentionally hurtful or bad, just it is what it is.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 01 July, 2016, 05:52:52 pm
Still made me wince, though.

I don't think I'd ever heard the word "pragmatic" when I was 10.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 01 July, 2016, 06:25:21 pm
Still made me wince, though.

I don't think I'd ever heard the word "pragmatic" when I was 10.

[OT] You weren't doing Literacy SATs!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 01 July, 2016, 08:16:07 pm
I can't remember being 10.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 July, 2016, 12:33:19 am
I can! '11+', first decimal coins, Paris riots, parents moved to London...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 02 July, 2016, 07:43:37 am
Didn't the coins appear before the switch?  I was a lowly programmer at the time and my progs were all written for £sd.  The week that conversion Hell was due to break loose (15th Feb 1971??) I was on a piss-up course in Eindhoven and some other poor wight had to do mine.  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 02 July, 2016, 08:38:02 am
Meanwhile, MRs. T41 has the flu, and schlepping the Inlaw Paw with my bum shoulder is getting bummer and bummer as days go by.   Lifting's OK: I can get his arms round my neck and then straighten my legs, but supporting his bad side with my bad side is killing us both.  I couldn't even use the hand grinder for coffee this morning.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 July, 2016, 09:06:38 am
Has your wife been devalued by this Brexit lark?  ;) ;D

Srsly hope your respective woes settle!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 02 July, 2016, 09:27:33 am
Oh shit, getting cross-eyed now. Well at least she's a prime number.

Thanks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 02 July, 2016, 01:31:07 pm
Didn't the coins appear before the switch?  I was a lowly programmer at the time and my progs were all written for £sd.

Wow.  I'm showing my youth, but I tend to think of pre-decimal currency as being one of those things that happened "after Jesus died and before computers were invented".  It hadn't really occurred to me that it coexisted with financial software for ages, even though it's obvious with a moment's thought.

I'm sure there are systems out there somewhere still working in £sd internally...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 July, 2016, 01:45:03 pm
Historical things like that are often a bit weird. I find it strange that £sd was still in use after I was born; because it was all decimal by the time I was old enough to use money, I always assumed it was ancient. Though of course the coins were still in circulation for decades after. Same with degrees fahrenheit; never learned to understand them, never really had to – till a doctor in, of all places, India, started using them to me! (I expect he had trained in USA).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 02 July, 2016, 01:53:07 pm
In primary school, our SPMG maths books talked about "New Pence".  I, logically, concluded that new pence were the plastic ones used in maths lessons (they had 'new pence' written on them, after all), while old pence were the metal ones you pay for things with in shops.

My parents used Fahrenheit for body temperature well into the 1990s.  I expect they were reasonably bilingual in a professional setting, and just defaulted to whatever the thermometer they were using was calibrated in (at home we had a Ye Olde mercury one, until it broke (which was worth it for the blobs of mercury) and was replaced with a newfangled alcohol one).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 July, 2016, 02:15:55 pm
Yebbut the metal ones in the shops had "NEW PENCE" written on the as well, though I suppose at that age you never got to pay attention to them.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 02 July, 2016, 04:41:34 pm
Didn't the coins appear before the switch?  I was a lowly programmer at the time and my progs were all written for £sd.

Wow.  I'm showing my youth, but I tend to think of pre-decimal currency as being one of those things that happened "after Jesus died and before computers were invented".  It hadn't really occurred to me that it coexisted with financial software for ages, even though it's obvious with a moment's thought.

I'm sure there are systems out there somewhere still working in £sd internally...

I wouldn't be surprised. We used to store everything in d and convert out on printing.  A few years before my time it was even ha'pennies, and the progs back then had to carry over odd ha'pennies from week to week so as not to cause strikes.

These are the beasties I worked on at the time: http://tinyurl.com/gozo7qw  The "high-speed printer" managed 22 characters/sec.

I even wrote a production control suite for a weaving company up in Peterhead - with 1k of 64-bit words and magnetic ledger cards.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 02 July, 2016, 06:59:38 pm
Faint memories have been returning. Ind Coope pale ale. Seven pint party can. Handing round can for swigs on canal towpath under Castle Lane bridge.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 02 July, 2016, 10:56:00 pm
Hoping that you all feel better soon. I seem to be improving. I can get around the house OK today but I have to stand up and sit down very slowly and carefully. I know my problems are trivial compared many on this thread and I do appreciate the supportive posts I receive  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 July, 2016, 08:45:40 am
Take it easy and don't worry.  One of the TdF bods lost 3 months after having a finger chopped off earlier this year, and he's in the pack.  Mind you, he's not sitting on his finger.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 03 July, 2016, 11:55:15 am
As I type this my trice adventure is in a trailer travelling up to mid Wales for a week of pottering with Jonathan notp. I should be in the van also. The plan is as soon as possible I will rejoin this expedition by train as there is a station in the village of Llanwrtyd Wells. I am hoping that I can go tomorrow or Tuesday. Hurry up and settle back, I want to go to Wales  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 July, 2016, 01:12:45 pm
Good luck.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 03 July, 2016, 07:11:07 pm
Thanks  :), I am in a warm bath which is encouraging. It is odd though I have had improvements an stiffening up feeling at odd times all day  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Polar Bear on 03 July, 2016, 07:41:28 pm
I can! '11+', first decimal coins, Paris riots, parents moved to London...

I don't know what day it was but I clearly remember my form teacher bringing in new decimal coins after dinner one day in school.   We had the new coins next to old coins and even notes (ten bob!) and we did a huge conversion chart on the blackboard.

I also remember the launch of the £1 coin as my mother gave me a bag of £200 of them.   

   
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 03 July, 2016, 07:46:19 pm
I can! '11+', first decimal coins, Paris riots, parents moved to London...

I don't know what day it was but I clearly remember my form teacher bringing in new decimal coins after dinner one day in school.   We had the new coins next to old coins and even notes (ten bob!) and we did a huge conversion chart on the blackboard.

I also remember the launch of the £1 coin as my mother gave me a bag of £200 of them.   

 

I seem to remember that the ten bob note was taken out off circulation before decimal day.  Although that would mean we had a ten bob coin for a while .  That can't be right.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 03 July, 2016, 08:00:00 pm
I remember spending a lesson in school learning addition and subtraction of pounds, shillings and pence. I'm not sure why they felt the need to teach us this, given that none of my class were born until well after decimalisation...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: SteveC on 03 July, 2016, 08:05:00 pm
I seem to remember that the ten bob note was taken out off circulation before decimal day.  Although that would mean we had a ten bob coin for a while .  That can't be right.
The 50 (new) p coin was legal tender before decimalisation.
And one was used for the toss in the FA cup final before they were issued to the public.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 03 July, 2016, 08:08:34 pm
I remember spending a lesson in school learning addition and subtraction of pounds, shillings and pence. I'm not sure why they felt the need to teach us this, given that none of my class were born until well after decimalisation...

Probably a way to introduce the concept of different number bases?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 03 July, 2016, 08:15:50 pm
I seem to remember that the ten bob note was taken out off circulation before decimal day.  Although that would mean we had a ten bob coin for a while .  That can't be right.
The 50 (new) p coin was legal tender before decimalisation.
And one was used for the toss in the FA cup final before they were issued to the public.

This was autumn 1969. I was Kosher school dinner monitor. Meals were 1/9 so a week's dinners were 8/9, needing ⅓ change from a ten-bob note.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 03 July, 2016, 08:17:12 pm
I remember spending a lesson in school learning addition and subtraction of pounds, shillings and pence. I'm not sure why they felt the need to teach us this, given that none of my class were born until well after decimalisation...

Probably a way to introduce the concept of different number bases?

That makes sense.  I'm sure we were better at mental arithmetic as kids when we had to think in 12s  and 20s.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 03 July, 2016, 08:25:18 pm
I remember spending a lesson in school learning addition and subtraction of pounds, shillings and pence. I'm not sure why they felt the need to teach us this, given that none of my class were born until well after decimalisation...

Probably a way to introduce the concept of different number bases?

That makes sense.  I'm sure we were better at mental arithmetic as kids when we had to think in 12s  and 20s.

Undoubtedly.  The counter-argument is that there's no point in being really good at mental arithmetic if it's not something you ever actually need to use.  I see little point in memorising multiplication tables above 10, and no point at all in those higher than 12, as in the real (metric) world there's very little that isn't base 10 or base 6.  You'd be better off spending the time learning some more relevant skill, like spotting overflow / rounding errors or something.

(And I say that as someone who uses base 2 and 16 fairly regularly.)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 03 July, 2016, 08:35:58 pm
I can! '11+', first decimal coins, Paris riots, parents moved to London...

I don't know what day it was but I clearly remember my form teacher bringing in new decimal coins after dinner one day in school.   We had the new coins next to old coins and even notes (ten bob!) and we did a huge conversion chart on the blackboard.

I also remember the launch of the £1 coin as my mother gave me a bag of £200 of them.   

I think the first decimal coins were issued on 23 April 1968, which was a Tuesday. (I would have been a few weeks short of 10 at that point.)

The £1 coins came out much later ??1983 - when we were proper grown-ups - and were nicknamed 'Thatcher' ( 'thick, brassy and thinks it's a sovereign') by some.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 04 July, 2016, 07:11:31 am
More memories of being ten years old are recalled.

The man next door put a ten bob note in Christmas and birthday cards for my sister and I. This was in the days when a Matchbox cars were 2/6- and 10/- could buy a Subuteo team.

In 1968, my 10/- note bought Corgi Toys GS13. Still got it, although in many pieces. I managed to buy another mint example in the box recently for £249.

Then we found out our next door neighbour was a millionaire.
When the 10/- note was taken out of circulation, he put a green £1 note in the cards.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 04 July, 2016, 08:14:15 am
In 1968, my 10/- note bought Corgi Toys GS13. Still got it, although in many pieces. I managed to buy another mint example in the box recently for £249.

Mine bought four pints of McEwan's Export.  Tuppence-ha'penny a pint and 2/3½d in tax.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 04 July, 2016, 10:19:25 am
I was in my first year at Grammar School, and I recall that the Mars Bars in the tuck shop went from 9d to 4p - an immediate price increase of 6%!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 04 July, 2016, 11:23:31 am
In 1968, my 10/- note bought Corgi Toys GS13. Still got it, although in many pieces. I managed to buy another mint example in the box recently for £249.

Mine bought four pints of McEwan's Export.  Tuppence-ha'penny a pint and 2/3½d in tax.

... or 5 pints of Younger's IPA.  The only thing cheaper was the beer at the Old Chain Peer at 1/9d, but it was piss.  Even Betty Moss said so.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Legs on 04 July, 2016, 12:08:24 pm
Take it easy and don't worry.  One of the TdF bods lost 3 months after having a finger chopped off earlier this year, and he's in the pack.
I tried doing that yesterday, but with hedge-cutters rather than bikey parts.   :facepalm:  Aiiiieeee!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 04 July, 2016, 12:15:38 pm
Take it easy and don't worry.  One of the TdF bods lost 3 months after having a finger chopped off earlier this year, and he's in the pack.
I tried doing that yesterday, but with hedge-cutters rather than bikey parts.   :facepalm:  Aiiiieeee!

Heal well and fast!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 04 July, 2016, 12:19:03 pm
Fingers are precious!  Take care of them!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Legs on 04 July, 2016, 12:42:52 pm
Thanks ladies.  Just got a bit of a gash through the pad - quite deep, but it's clean(ish) and there's nothing missing so it should knit back together quite well.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 04 July, 2016, 01:36:55 pm
Narsty. Our Buddleia fights back as well, but usually with a wet flower-head down the back of your neck.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 July, 2016, 04:03:17 pm
Back for a minute to the pre-metrication: I noticed yesterday my Madison touring shorts, which I bought new in 1986 or v. close (certainly the oldest item of clothing I have, probably the oldest thing I have that was new when I got it, possibly even the first item of clothing I ever bought (teenage cycle nerd :o), have their washing label in fahrenheit.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ningishzidda on 04 July, 2016, 06:15:13 pm
Cus they were aimed at the USA market.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 05 July, 2016, 09:49:09 am
Two months now since my last decent ride before severe angina stopped me, one month since attempts to stem it with divers vasodilators failed, two days before I go into hospital for an angioplasty and there's flu in the house with a good chance of me catching it ==> postponement.  Bollocks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 05 July, 2016, 10:17:34 am
I would leave home!

Now 2 weeks since my injury and surgery and I feel more tired and weaker than I did last week!  I think the reality of the injury and the post adrenaline reaction is really kicking in!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 05 July, 2016, 04:15:53 pm
So to finish things off, I am sitting waiting for my clinic appointment when the phone rings.  My wife has been in an accident, car not drivable but she is unhurt thankfully.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 July, 2016, 04:24:19 pm
What is it with members of this forum!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 05 July, 2016, 05:54:16 pm
Some are accident-prone, others are just prone.

I'm into hosp Thurs pm for tests before my angioplasty Friday morning.  I didn't think I'd be nervous, but...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 05 July, 2016, 06:05:50 pm
Argh sorry to hear you're fatigued and stuff now Chris and about your wife's accident - hope she remains OK.

T42, good luck at not catching teh flu - hope your op can go ahead as planned.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 05 July, 2016, 07:32:25 pm
T42  praying for a good outcome.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 06 July, 2016, 12:46:10 am
What is it with members of this forum!
I suspect those who post to this board and this thread might just be unrepresentative of the forum as a whole...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 08 July, 2016, 06:13:52 pm
I hope that all goes well t42  :). As me I spend most of my time prone  ;)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 July, 2016, 07:00:12 pm
Whee doggy. Artery was 100% blocked, but brilliant surgeon lady blasted through (heparin?) And shoved in a stent. Wound took ages to staunch afterwards, nurses taking it in relays. Ok now.

Gasping for a coffee.

Thks again all for good wishes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 08 July, 2016, 08:28:38 pm
Good news  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 08 July, 2016, 08:44:39 pm
Whee doggy. Artery was 100% blocked, but brilliant surgeon lady blasted through (heparin?) And shoved in a stent. Wound took ages to staunch afterwards, nurses taking it in relays. Ok now.

The sort of thing that is sort of good to hear. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 08 July, 2016, 10:01:34 pm
Brilliant news. I hope it does the job for you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 08 July, 2016, 10:41:48 pm
I'm not old enough for base 12 money, but do remember the old two shilling pieces used as tenpence.

The one that got me confused was going to Germany aged 7, coming back aged ten and finding twenty pence pieces and pound coins being used. First time relative gave me a pound to get some sweets I had no idea what it was.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 08 July, 2016, 11:10:50 pm
Whee doggy. Artery was 100% blocked, but brilliant surgeon lady blasted through (heparin?) And shoved in a stent. Wound took ages to staunch afterwards, nurses taking it in relays. Ok now.

Gasping for a coffee.

Thks again all for good wishes.
Oh my goodness, how on earth where you still going?  Good to hear it worked. You sure it was a surgeon and not dyno-rod?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 08 July, 2016, 11:29:44 pm
Whee doggy. Artery was 100% blocked, but brilliant surgeon lady blasted through (heparin?) And shoved in a stent. Wound took ages to staunch afterwards, nurses taking it in relays. Ok now.

Gasping for a coffee.

Thks again all for good wishes.

Good news, gws
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 09 July, 2016, 05:12:51 am
 :thumbsup:

All serene, shd be out this morning.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 09 July, 2016, 07:02:05 am
I am in a bit and b in Llanwrtyd Wells and my back has gone again  :'(. I am not sure how I am getting home.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 09 July, 2016, 10:48:12 am
I am in a bit and b in Llanwrtyd Wells and my back has gone again  :'(. I am not sure how I am getting home.

Ouch.  Did that on 23rd June 2013, but fortunately I had an orthopaedic nurse riding with.  Massage got me home.

Hope the Good Fairy will happen along soon.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 09 July, 2016, 11:02:25 am
Home again, feeling great.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: geraldc on 09 July, 2016, 11:09:31 am
My lactose intolerance seems only to be triggered with various forms of ice cream/gelato (as I tend to avoid milk and dairy products, other than cheese on pizza). So I'm considering sitting down this weekend with a pint glass, and a bottle of A2 milk. Things might get messy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 09 July, 2016, 11:48:38 am
I'm largely lactose intolerant but I can have hard cheese, pizza etc. The lactose content of chedder etc is about 0.03%, compared to milk/cream/yoghurt which are 5%. 

I buy lactose free milk for TEA, avoid yoghurt and cream and don't worry about hard cheese or even small amounts of milk chocolate. What is worth looking out for is whey powder at 50% lactose in some cases as the lactose goes into the non-fat component of the dairy mostly.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 09 July, 2016, 11:49:05 am
I am in a bit and b in Llanwrtyd Wells and my back has gone again  :'(. I am not sure how I am getting home.

Bugger, that does not sound good. I hope you can reboot it and get home safely.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 July, 2016, 12:53:59 pm
Home again, feeling great.

Excellent!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 09 July, 2016, 01:02:30 pm
Thanks, Helly.  Nice thing was that the surge said I could drop the vasodilators without being asked, which would have been my next question.

I have the CD with the videos of the op home with me, but TBH I can't see much change.  Unfortunately they're a proprietary format so no YouTubing.

Still covered with betadine - look as if I have jaundice.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 09 July, 2016, 02:05:47 pm
Suggest you don't lie on white sheets yet!  ;) ;D

Hoping for a smooth recovery!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 09 July, 2016, 02:07:03 pm
Try Sante Dicom viewer.  It is a free dowload
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 09 July, 2016, 04:00:05 pm
Manage to wangle a shower by taping up my arm in a freezer bag. All clean now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 10 July, 2016, 07:33:26 pm
And I am in Carmarthen hospital watching the rain falling. I doubt I will get out before Tuesday  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 10 July, 2016, 07:50:48 pm
Oh dear! GWS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 10 July, 2016, 07:55:47 pm
GWS cyclamen
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 10 July, 2016, 08:57:38 pm
And I am in Carmarthen hospital watching the rain falling. I doubt I will get out before Tuesday  ::-)
Blimey. 
I absolutely have to be in Lampeter tomorrow.  Let me know if you are still there on Tuesday as I could take a bus down.  Anything you need?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 10 July, 2016, 09:42:09 pm
Eeep Cycleman, sorry to hear the hospital has got you, hope they can sort you out soonest!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 11 July, 2016, 07:15:36 am
Thanks all of you  :). It would be great to see you basil. I may well be still here on Tuesday as every time I wake up and move my back mussels tense up. Although it does not go into full spasm my back is more painful now than it was last night. I am pleased to report that me and Jonathan notp acended and decended the devils staircase. I did look but the stair lift I not find it  ???. When I get back home there should be pictures. Basil I will pm you the ward info  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 11 July, 2016, 10:43:57 am
It's the careening that hurts most.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 12 July, 2016, 07:22:55 am
I thought I was improving but about 3.00am my back nearly went back into full spasm  ::-). And it feels like something is bitting me!.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 12 July, 2016, 08:10:30 am
There are 3 buses a day from here.  Hopefully, I can catch the last one in and the first one back in order to come and point and laugh at you.  This still means I'll be over 5 hours away from my teenage niece who is currently staying here on paint brush wielding duties.  Not sure if I trust her that much.

I'll bring you some Welsh cakes.  They should help.   :P
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 12 July, 2016, 01:38:29 pm
Waiting for the duty GP to ring me back. My idiot cat stuck one of his claws deep into the thumb/finger webbing on my right hand at the weekend. There's no redness other than at the puncture point, but it's sore to touch in the joint and in the soft tissue, and full abduction of the thumb is sore in the joint.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 12 July, 2016, 03:04:20 pm
GP rang me back and went off to check the paper notes to check I've had my full tetanus course. While she had the paper notes in front of her, I asked her to look something up for me. What my parents have told me is that just after I started school I had a bit of a cold and the next day I was covered in a terrible rash, which they have explained to me as "you produced too many antibodies to the cold and then reacted to them." What I remember is going to the local hospital for urine tests and refusing to pee in the cardboard potty because I was a big girl (nearly 5!) and could use the toilet, and my dad carrying me up the stairs to bed because my legs hurt, and being allowed to eat my tea in front of the telly instead of at the table.

GP checked the notes - 22/09/75 (so about three weeks after I started school) - Hanoch-Schonlein Purpura. Never heard of it!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 12 July, 2016, 05:14:38 pm
I thought 'Henoch-Schönlein Purpura' about 3 lines into your big paragraph...

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 12 July, 2016, 05:46:47 pm
Bloody morphine paranoia. Spent two hours explaining repeatedly to the Inlaw Paw this afternoon that he was receiving treatment**, he was being monitored continuously, and the docs & nurses were keeping an eye on him and that yes, the doc had explained everything to him. He would respond "yes, but I've no proof" and we'd show him his daily charts, he'd say "well I'll take your word for it" and clam down.  Then his memory would evaporate and he'd start over. We're knackered. And tomorrow afternoon we go back.

**congestive heart failure. Looks bad.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 12 July, 2016, 09:37:13 pm
IOP in left eye was 32mmHg today despite taking two types of glaucoma drop.  32 is scarily high (baseline before surgery was 12).  It's a reaction to dexamethasone, which I have been told to discontinue forthwith.  Now on loteprednol, which barely raises IOP at all (right eye is a decent 18mmHg and has been on loteprednol with no glaucoma drops for the last two months).

Opthalmwotsit says there is no optic nerve damage but he is clearly worried that the glaucoma drops didn't control the pressure.  Need to see him again in two weeks, by which time all the dexamethasone should have left the system and IOP should hopefully be under 21 again.

The balance to be struck is that you really have to take dexamethasone in the first few months after a graft, as it is a very powerful and easily absorbed anti-inflammatory which prevents rejection, but it is known to raise IOP in about a third of people.  Loteprednol is more benign but is too weakly absorbed to do the job in the early stages.  Raised IOP for a short period shouldn't cause glaucoma but it will eventually do so if left unchecked.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 17 July, 2016, 02:41:21 pm
My brother's been having some vision issues. He went to the optician who thought he had maccular holes and sent him to the eye clinic for a proper look.
Apparently 3 people at the eye clinic looked and they say there are no holes but may be some abnormal pigmentation on the retina, so he's to go back again for a Fundus fluorescein angiograph.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 17 July, 2016, 04:52:12 pm
Inlaw Paw out of danger, moving out of ICU tomorrow, but his memory is shot. Today he couldn't recognize the very distinctive mug he's been using at home for the last 5 years, he doesn't remember why he's in there. And curiously, every so often he'll use very formal phrases in normal conversation.

He'll be a couple more weeks in the heart unit now and then 2-3 in the convalescent wing.  Thereafter, we don't yet know.

One thing I realized yesterday: I've had quite bad nervous eczema on my hands for some weeks, and since he's been in hospital and we aren't eternally on call it has almost gone.  This morning the missus and I got out for a walk together for the first time since 2013.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 17 July, 2016, 05:05:13 pm
Is it nervous eczema or is it dermatitis from too much 'soap', too little rinsing, drying and hand cream?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 July, 2016, 10:29:15 am
No fillings today, and the dentist says my oral health is excellent.  ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 18 July, 2016, 12:40:20 pm
Is it nervous eczema or is it dermatitis from too much 'soap', too little rinsing, drying and hand cream?

Fair question, but it does wax & wane with stress.  It started up in 1996 when the Social Security, bless them, dunned us for 141,000 francs just before we went on holiday, and has come & gone thereafter in inverse phase to our fortunes.  And my hands get lots of lanolin from dogs' fur.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 18 July, 2016, 12:45:27 pm
Is it nervous eczema or is it dermatitis from too much 'soap', too little rinsing, drying and hand cream?

Fair question, but it does wax & wane with stress.  It started up in 1996 when the Social Security, bless them, dunned us for 141,000 francs just before we went on holiday, and has come & gone thereafter in inverse phase to our fortunes.  And my hands get lots of lanolin from dogs' fur.

Fur enough.
Looking after others does entail much washing; keep well!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 18 July, 2016, 12:53:32 pm
Well, others are doing that just now. He's moving into a different unit today where things will be more relaxed than in Reanimation.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 July, 2016, 09:34:56 pm
We have had 'Fish Oil + Multivitamin' capsules for years.
These are branded 'Seven Seas'.
They used to be 'pure cod liver oil' + A-Z multivitamins.
There was a sneaky change to 'Omega-3 Fish oil + Cod Liver Oil + A-Z Multivitamins.
This has now been rebadged 'Simply Timeless'.
The formula seems the same as after the sneaky change and it now only contains 15% cod liver oil...
I feel a little done...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 22 July, 2016, 11:13:36 am
But enriched with 30% more marketing.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 22 July, 2016, 11:30:06 am
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: offcumden on 23 July, 2016, 11:44:03 am
After being turned away from a blood donor session a few years ago due to marginally low Hgb I started taking combined VitC and Iron tablets; low dosage (100% of RDA, I think), and sold cheaply by Sainsburys. A year or so ago they disappeared from the shelves for a few months, but have now returned in a very similar container, with the same formula, but now labelled as 'Women's'.  Previously they were simply called something like 'Basics'. 

As a non-woman, I continue to take them, but do wonder a little about the marketing logic.  OK, women are probably statistically more prone to low Hgb, but you have to wonder whether sales to the male of the species may have declined since the change!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 23 July, 2016, 11:57:12 am
In today's post were two identical letters to my GP, following a recent clinic visit.
I'm sure the intention was to send me a courtesy copy and send one copy to the GP.
Some idiot isn't very good at stuffing envelopes, it appears.
Will ask partner to drop refolded copy at the surgery.

I wonder how many important letters go astray this way...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 July, 2016, 08:04:59 am
Dragging off to hosp every pm to see the IP is getting very, very wearing. Incredibly tired now from before I get up until I go to bed.  Still not cycling or even using turbo, but walking round the fields every couple of days, carefully keeping BG within spitting-distance of the bell curve. Will be getting on turbo next weekend, maybe that'll help.  Brain-dead mostly, too.  Ideal convalescence from coronary plumbing, not.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 25 July, 2016, 03:22:22 pm
Getting my thumb surgery 11th August.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 July, 2016, 03:32:21 pm
Getting my thumb surgery 11th August.
The last thing you said about your thumb was that Boris stuck a claw in it. An operation seems extreme . . .
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rogerzilla on 26 July, 2016, 09:11:09 pm
Left eye IOP was 32mmHg two weeks ago (which is very bad).  Changed anti-inflammatory steroid drops and down to 13mmHg today, which is about as low as it gets when your corneas are a bit thicker than normal (this affects the reading).  Apparently I'm "on the home straight" now and will be down to only one type of eye drop, once a day, in a few weeks' time.  Last month I was carrying around four different ones!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 27 July, 2016, 07:05:54 am
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 28 July, 2016, 09:21:29 am
Got so used to doing SFA - well, apart from walking round the fields & forest, which is SFA with bugs - since May that the idea of getting back on the bike tomorrow is somewhat daunting.  At the same time, the idea of getting on the turbo instead is disgusting. One is quandarized.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 28 July, 2016, 12:50:46 pm
Please get back on the bike and ride for FUN.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 28 July, 2016, 01:10:32 pm
Yeah! Fuckit.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 28 July, 2016, 10:00:22 pm
Getting my thumb surgery 11th August.
The last thing you said about your thumb was that Boris stuck a claw in it. An operation seems extreme . . .
That was my other thumb, and it was Pete, not Boris.  ;D

There's a weird lump on the base of my left thumb. X-ray and ultrasound haven't shown anything, but it's an obvious lump, and it's sore, and I keep knocking it and making it more sore. So the hand surgeon is going to cut it out and I am going to get two weeks off while the stitches are in, followed by 2 weeks annual leave. I am not sad about that at all.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 29 July, 2016, 10:50:07 am
Did a whole 8.9 km, round the village & up a neighbouring hill, heart up to 153 bpm with no pain. One is chuffed. :thumbsup:

Heh: when BPM on Garmin was 110 it was 75 on Fitbit marketing device, when Garmin & BP meter showed 87 it was still 75 on the WeSawYouComingBit. Those things are rubbish.  I'm glad it was a present.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: geraldc on 29 July, 2016, 11:19:27 am
Did you set Fitbit to exercise mode so the sampling of HR happens more frequently?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 29 July, 2016, 11:27:38 am
Quote
Did a whole 8.9 km, round the village & up a neighbouring hill, heart up to 153 bpm with no pain. One is chuffed. :thumbsup:

glad you had fun again
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 29 July, 2016, 01:08:41 pm
@geraldc No, but it appears to sample HR at a hell of a rate anyway: permanent baleful green flicker.  TBH I don't like the nasty rubbery feel of the thing or the hype surrounding it, so I only wear it to appease please the missus.

@chris Cheers! Not half as glad as I am.  When every hill is accompanied either by chest pain or the expectation thereof the shine kinda goes off.  It's bloody wonderful to go tanking up** a 6% again without a hint of it.

Hoping for dry weather now.

** at a whole 9 kph but that's what it felt like
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 August, 2016, 11:27:11 am
Why are broken ribs not accompanied by swelling like other bones?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 01 August, 2016, 11:33:58 am
Bugger

First time back on the CoCodamol since early 2014.  :'(

Hip has flared up again. Time to dig out my hospital patient number and reactive the open appointment.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: essexian on 01 August, 2016, 11:48:18 am
Not a grumble but....

Back at the end of March I had an off which resulted in a heavy landing on my shoulder from 15mph. A&E said nothing was broken and as it was a soft tissue injury, I should give it 4 to 8 weeks to heal up.

So, 16 weeks later and it still hurts and I still can't swim with it (I can't put my arm behind my back), so I phone my GP for an appointment. As its not an emergency, they can't see me for 10 days.  :-\

Lets hope it is just a soft tissue injury and A&E didn't miss something.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 August, 2016, 11:49:04 am
Why are broken ribs not accompanied by swelling like other bones?
Actually you don't always get much swelling with a broken bone. Swelling comes from damage to the surrounding soft tissue.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 01 August, 2016, 03:28:18 pm
essexian

Remember soft tissue injuries take longer to heal than bones!

You will have certainly jammed the acromioclavicluar joint and possibly damaged the rotator cuff.  I would find a good local physio before going the medical route.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 August, 2016, 01:15:32 pm
Chuffed with first half-decent ride: 25k w. ~100 metres of real climbing. Heart hit 159 without pain either during ride or since, B.P. once home 120/70. Knackered but hey, after ~8 weeks doing essentially nothing it's not bad.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 August, 2016, 01:24:33 pm
That's excellent. Registering for PBP then . . . Or would swimbo kill you if you mentioned it?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 03 August, 2016, 02:46:46 pm
T42
Really pleased for you.  I hope you do get back to long distance if you are well enough but even reasonable rides must feel wonderful after what you went through and faced.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 August, 2016, 04:15:32 pm
Thank-you both.

@mrcharly: herself knows that a lot can happen in 4 years.  I have mentioned doing a diagonale next year: she just says "wait and see".

@chris: I always had confidence in the med squad, but I did get a bit pissed off that they took an extra month to decide on the 2nd stent when the artery was obviously closing fast and my hard-earned condition was going out the window.  However, the genius they found to fix it was worth the wait.  The main thing now is to stick to a reasonable diet and not spoil her handiwork.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 03 August, 2016, 06:11:03 pm
T42
I am really enamoured of the idea of a "diagonale".  I have a half planned Dunkirk to Perpignan which has been shelved the last 2 years due to various things.  I love the concept of the various trips.  The UK seem so simple with Lejog or C2C
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 August, 2016, 08:41:46 am
@Chris: I started planning a Dunk-Perp a couple of years back, taking the route via the Rhône valley, which is considerably easier than crossing the Massif Central.  I jacked it in after a while: apart from the fact that it was taking longer to plan than I had reckoned, all the roads south of Dunkirk that I looked at on Streetview were either covered in mud or dull grey under heavy overcast - it was just too depressing.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 August, 2016, 08:44:54 am
Going to ask the cardiologist for a Holter later this week. I've been having spells of what for me is bradycardia - heart at 45 rather than my usual 54 rest frequency - and sensations as of extra-systolics around my heart.  Weather's perfect and all I can do is look at it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 09 August, 2016, 07:07:33 pm
T42  Thanks for the info about diagonal, I may come back to you!!

Are you on a Beta blocker.  Many cardiologists may underestimate the fitness of long term long distance cyclists and the effect of beta blockers.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 10 August, 2016, 07:38:45 am
Not a chance of that, Chris. I was on BBs for three horrible years when I got my first stent in 2008 - along with unnecessary BP meds they cost me my 2011 PBP qualification.  I was a wee bit miffed at that.

Still, I did a ride with adequate food on board yesterday and I'm more or less OK this morning.  We've been utterly knackered recently from driving to & fro to the hospital every day, but on Monday we took the day off; and the antidiabetic diet I'm on doesn't chime too well with exercise.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: essexian on 11 August, 2016, 03:20:16 pm
essexian

Remember soft tissue injuries take longer to heal than bones!

You will have certainly jammed the acromioclavicluar joint and possibly damaged the rotator cuff.  I would find a good local physio before going the medical route.

Hi Chris et al

Went to the Doctors this morning who said it looks like I have damaged my rotator cuff and has referred me to the local hospital for a scan to confirm what's going on and then its likely I will need physio. I should be seen in the next 4 weeks which is pretty good really.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 11 August, 2016, 07:15:36 pm
Bother, another cathier caused infection. It was bothering me on the London ride last Saturday and has not improved since. Back on antibiotics again  :'(.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 12 August, 2016, 08:56:25 am
Bother, another cathier caused infection. It was bothering me on the London ride last Saturday and has not improved since. Back on antibiotics again  :'(.

Pardon me, but does that word really exist?  It looks like a misspelling of catheter but has been repeated so often I'm beginning to wonder.  Maybe the hospital staff are eliding the second T: English pronunciation seems to be sliding that way, on support lines at least (suppor' lines a' leas').

Anyway, sympathies for your distressed urethra.  My experience thereof dates from before my diabetes diagnosis, and it was not very agreeable.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 12 August, 2016, 01:20:11 pm
The word is catheter.
I don't know if cycleman's attendants have adopted the glottal stop.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 12 August, 2016, 03:58:19 pm
My understanding is that cycleman struggles with keyboard input at the best of times for disability reasons (he's a lot more verbose in person  ;)).  He also seems to fall foul of autocorrect on a regular basis.

As for catheters, the speed at which they seem to be addressing the underlying issue is surely taking the piss?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 12 August, 2016, 04:50:05 pm
The Inlaw Paw has one plus a urine pouch just now.  Any bag-snatchers are in for a nasty surprise.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 August, 2016, 10:35:11 pm
My understanding is that cycleman struggles with keyboard input at the best of times for disability reasons (he's a lot more verbose in person  ;)).  He also seems to fall foul of autocorrect on a regular basis.

As for catheters, the speed at which they seem to be addressing the underlying issue is surely taking the piss?
Back of the class for that, Kim.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 13 August, 2016, 09:34:53 am
There not even doing that Kim. They leave disposal to me  :facepalm: ;D. Sorry about the miss spelling. I am afraid that autocorrect do control my spelling  :-[
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 August, 2016, 02:31:13 pm
I've been for a pre-op assessment. It was useful - the paperwork I had said to stop using Aspirin before the op, but not when. Turn out I need to stop taking it two weeks before. I also found out I'll be in plaster for 6 weeks post op.

Got weighed. I'm back up to 80kg. That is a surprise, mostly because my trousers are falling off me, I'm hungry a lot of the time (but food is unappetising - topirimate side-effect). When I was 83kg I had trouble doing up the same trousers and Tshirts were tight. So I dunno where all the Kg are hiding.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 27 August, 2016, 01:28:07 pm
Two of three weeks now since I stopped drinking my own home-roasted coffee. Since then, although I had the odd peely-wally effort locally, I hadn't anything I'd call real coffee. Yesterday morning, though, we rode to my favourite patisserie and I had a couple of decent espressos, and as I finished the second one my hands began to shake. Didn't sleep too well last night, either.

Quite amazed at the effect.  Not going to do that again.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 27 August, 2016, 01:33:27 pm
I've been for a pre-op assessment. It was useful - the paperwork I had said to stop using Aspirin before the op, but not when. Turn out I need to stop taking it two weeks before. I also found out I'll be in plaster for 6 weeks post op.

Got weighed. I'm back up to 80kg. That is a surprise, mostly because my trousers are falling off me, I'm hungry a lot of the time (but food is unappetising - topirimate side-effect). When I was 83kg I had trouble doing up the same trousers and Tshirts were tight. So I dunno where all the Kg are hiding.

How do normally get weighed & on which/whose scales?
Very few are really well-calibrated. I would not be surprised if you are lighter in other circumstances.

Good luck with the op!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 27 August, 2016, 01:54:02 pm
I have a gastro appointment on Wednesday, must remember to print out the study showing improvement in Crohn's symptoms when medication replaced with exercise.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 August, 2016, 09:40:39 am
I've been for a pre-op assessment. It was useful - the paperwork I had said to stop using Aspirin before the op, but not when. Turn out I need to stop taking it two weeks before. I also found out I'll be in plaster for 6 weeks post op.

Got weighed. I'm back up to 80kg. That is a surprise, mostly because my trousers are falling off me, I'm hungry a lot of the time (but food is unappetising - topirimate side-effect). When I was 83kg I had trouble doing up the same trousers and Tshirts were tight. So I dunno where all the Kg are hiding.

How do normally get weighed & on which/whose scales?
Very few are really well-calibrated. I would not be surprised if you are lighter in other circumstances.

Good luck with the op!
The scales at home agreed with the hospital . . .
I've been away in the lakes for a week of pub food and beer, but surprisingly have not gained weight but have gained belly fat! Bodies are weird.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 02 September, 2016, 08:18:08 am
Doing my morning stretches and something went pop deep in my pelvis, hoping that's progress.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 03 September, 2016, 05:19:36 pm
Me legs is sore.  Feels great.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 September, 2016, 01:13:47 pm
'graft from iliac crest' I had this naive idea that meant a teeny little cut and an achy hip for a few days.

It's a 4" incision with incredible bruising (it extends round my back, doesn't show up in the p'c) , sitting up is really hard, can't use abdominal muscles on that side. coughing is a very bad idea

Apart from "keep wound site dry" I haven'y been told anything about care of this.

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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 04 September, 2016, 01:20:36 pm
Leave the steristrips till they drop off.  After three days or so you should be okay to have a quick shower, so long as you don't soak the wound.  Don't lie around in bed, don't be an invalid.  But rest is important.

Lie on your right side in a ball before you get up.  Support the sore bits with your hand when you need to cough.

Eat protein.

Don't do stupid things like repairing boats, cleaning up after teenagers, or lifting anything heavier than a phone book.  Your body is using its resources to heal so don't put further demands (like bike riding or hiking or housework) on it.

Get enough sleep.  This should be a high priority.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 September, 2016, 01:27:50 pm
I'm not doing much 'cause one-armed. back to work mon, but that's sedentary and I'll come home early if I'm tired.

Something popped when I coughed, but it doesn't hurt now. I just didn't expect them taking the bone for the graft to affect abdominal muscles

I have waterproof dressings to keep it covered
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 04 September, 2016, 01:30:18 pm
lifting anything heavier than a phone book

A modern phone book, or a proper one from the 1980s?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 04 September, 2016, 01:55:34 pm
lifting anything heavier than a phone book

A modern phone book, or a proper one from the 1980s?

Circa 1993.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: CrinklyLion on 04 September, 2016, 02:01:17 pm
And if you need owt done (or a care package casserole - 1980's Neighbours-stylee) next weekend, do say so!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 04 September, 2016, 02:49:52 pm
Sympathy.  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: lou boutin on 04 September, 2016, 03:04:34 pm
Sending healing vibe MrC

I've just done a 10 mile pootle. 5 miles out, a latte and 5 miles back. :-). As its my first post op pootle I'm a bit sore now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 04 September, 2016, 06:01:17 pm
Ouch, sympathies Mr C.  Heal well and soon.  I like Ruthie's advice.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 September, 2016, 06:13:55 pm
Sending healing vibe MrC

I've just done a 10 mile pootle. 5 miles out, a latte and 5 miles back. :-). As its my first post op pootle I'm a bit sore now.
that sounds great. well done
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 September, 2016, 07:08:54 pm
Leave the steristrips till they drop off.  After three days or so you should be okay to have a quick shower, so long as you don't soak the wound.  Don't lie around in bed, don't be an invalid.  But rest is important.

Lie on your right side in a ball before you get up.  Support the sore bits with your hand when you need to cough.

Eat protein.

Don't do stupid things like repairing boats, cleaning up after teenagers, or lifting anything heavier than a phone book.  Your body is using its resources to heal so don't put further demands (like bike riding or hiking or housework) on it.

Get enough sleep.  This should be a high priority.

(My bold)
Yes, do as you're told!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: lou boutin on 04 September, 2016, 07:52:16 pm
Also Ig you've an an operation involving your abdomen, driving will hurt too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 September, 2016, 09:30:07 pm
Well I'm one handed, so driving for a bit. Not tempted to try cycling.

Not sure about working tomorrow, it's not the work, it's the commute. That cough tore something and the bruising is worse I'm really sore. Spent most of the day asleep on the sofa.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: rafletcher on 04 September, 2016, 09:35:54 pm
Cystitis. Again.
No 400 for me this weekend. I think I'm up to 3 bouts this year - I really should start keeping a tally.

My wife has recently started suffering repeated bouts (this last time they've sent a sample to the lab to see if it's a particularly stubborn strain), but coincidentally we were watching "Trust me, I'm a doctor" and Hiprex was mentioned. This is a prophylactic drug that makes the urine hostile to bacterial infection and can be prescribed in cases of repetitive cystitis. My wife will be enquiringly about it at her annual checkup next week - she certainly doesn't want a bout when she's in the US next month.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 11 September, 2016, 03:48:18 pm
The Inlaw Paw will be home Wed or Thur, and we have had a hospital-style bed and anti-bedsore air mattress installed for him.  Bloke who installed it pointed out a yellow tab for emergency deflation, explaining that you need it if heart massage is required, "otherwise you get the basketball-dribble effect".
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Legs on 12 September, 2016, 08:15:12 am
Dr Google suggest infection of epididymis.   :'(  Feel like I've been booted in the twig 'n' berries.  Seeing quack this evening.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 12 September, 2016, 05:54:09 pm
Ciprofloxacin ftw. GWS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Legs on 12 September, 2016, 07:26:24 pm
Obtaining required samples would be fun  ;D if it were not for the discomfort...  :-\ (apply liberal mindbleach if required)
Thanks helly.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 September, 2016, 10:45:44 am
Another day, another seizure (if that's what they are), ho hum.

Conscious for this one. About 2am, woke choking, constriction in throat feeling, felt unable to breath. Followed by whole body muscle contraction/rigidity/spasms. Jaw rigid teeth clenching. Aware of what was happening, aware that Charly was asleep, that I woke her and she asked me what was going on, unable to answer until spasm/contraction ceased. Throat contraction went first, then body relaxed. No pain in head or other migraine aura

Not huge spasms, but not fun when you have internal stitches still healing, and arm osteotomy/graft healing. arm is distinctly achy today
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 13 September, 2016, 10:50:14 am
How awful, sorry mrc.  :-\ Take care.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 13 September, 2016, 10:51:59 am
Ugh, that sounds unpleasant. I presume you're logging these and letting the docs know. Hope you don't feel too awful today physically or psychologically.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 September, 2016, 11:02:49 am
that makes 3 in 12 months - but the only one wher I was fully aware. back to nuero I suppose.

I guess I'm officially weird
I'm fed up of being ill, broken limbs, head not being functioning. Makes me miserable, MrsC is fed up of it too and saying so
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 13 September, 2016, 04:59:23 pm
I hope they work out what's causing them and you get some better body luck soon.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 September, 2016, 08:52:26 pm
Sorry to hear of your issues mrcharly, sounds frightening.

In other rubbish news, my brother has maccular degeneration in both eyes. He's only 55  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 13 September, 2016, 09:34:00 pm
Is that the nasty wet Macular Degeneration kind Mrs Pingu?  My mum has the dry kind which is apparently 'less bad'.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 September, 2016, 10:42:23 pm
He has the dry MD. He says the damage in one eye covers about 3x the area of the other. Is to go back next week for another imaging session so they can assess the initial rate of degradation.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 14 September, 2016, 12:21:09 am
Ugh, sounds much worse than my mum's which is just a small amount of visual glitch currently, although she doesn't need much to bollox up her visual processing as she's dyslexic and has appalling spatial awareness and proprioception.

If it gets to that stage, do advise your brother to find some "low vision" advice, there are a lot of strategies and support options to help people with slight impairments which may reduce the difficulty of not seeing well. Services are no where near promoted enough but do exist.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 September, 2016, 01:55:09 pm
I had a cast change today, which enabled me to find out what had actually been done.

A HUGE plate was put in. I swear it is bigger than the original radius, it actually wraps around the head of the radius. Taking no chances . . .

Stitches removed and things a lot more comfortable. Was a big relief to see my arm looking straight, before they wrapped it back up in a cast again.
Sadly I didn't get a pic of the plate scan, will make sure I do next time.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 15 September, 2016, 02:22:20 pm
Always fun seeing what they've done to you under the dressings. Glad it is more comfortable. How long are you in a cast for now?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 September, 2016, 02:29:30 pm
4 weeks - but only a very small cast and I can use my fingers (but not supposed to do it much ha ha).

Incision was surprisingly small, only about 5", they must have really stretched things to get the plate in and done the bone sawing. No wonder my arm was black and blue.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 15 September, 2016, 02:35:10 pm
Small casts ftw. Good luck not over using the fingers, that's surprisingly hard.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: lou boutin on 15 September, 2016, 07:30:39 pm
Keep on keeping in healing well Mr C
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 September, 2016, 01:10:42 pm
Excellent article on atherosclerosis:

http://eatingacademy.com/cholesterol-2/heart-disease-begin-tell-us-prevention
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 September, 2016, 12:01:33 am
Because I haven't actually ranted about it on here yet, because it's been canonically discussed in the Other Place:

I only got as far as Maastricht under my own power on the recent Fridays' tour (http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/the-latest-news-on-the-fridays-vi-v-a-colonia-tour.206807/).   By the end of the fourth day I was suffering from being out in the heat too long, but also had some niggling achilles pain on the left side that I didn't think much of at the time.  The following day - ostensibly a rest day - I chose to ride on to Maastricht (couldn't go any further, because Belgians are allergic to having campsites in useful places) in order to cut the mileage on the day after that, which was also forecast to be insanely hot.

As I took it easy on the route from Aachen to Maastricht, the achilles pain returned with a vengeance, on both sides.  From then on, I was in pain pretty much every time I took a step or turned a pedal, with stairs and clipping in being excruciating.  I completed the rest of the tour primarily by rail, with a few kilometres of gentle cycling to join things up.  (Apart from the final morning when [REDACTED] changed the plan without telling me and I had to ride across Dunkirk in about 50 minutes, causing the whole thing - which seemed to be slowly improving - to flare up again).

So ...yeah.

I don't really know what caused it.  My educated guess is that the problem is inflammation around the tendons at the back of the ankles; it's not muscular, I haven't bashed them, it doesn't really hurt to prod, is more to do with range of motion than force and there was for a while some barely visible puffiness which has now gone.

Possible factors include:
- Riding long days back to back.  Nothing I haven't done before, but not recently.
- Riding in pan flat conditions.  I'm used to rolling hills.
- Prolonged group riding.  Normally I'm riding solo or tortoise/haring other riders.
- Newish SD65 sandals.  My usual pair are threatening to fail, so I used the new ones (same shoes I wore on the Normandy tour in June, and for various rides to break them in before that).
- Lots of crouching and crawling into tents wearing the above (but it's not like I haven't done weeks of camping with them before).
- Dehydration, exhaustion, sense of humour failure, etc. leading to poor pedalling technique towards the end of day 4.
- Karmic retribution for well-behaved Knees, trivial mechanicals, no major digestive episodes, etc.


Since I got home I've been wearing my well-worn veggie docs (best compromise between pressure on the ankle and extra stress on the achilles from walking on tiptoe / in flipflops) and generally trying to walk as little as possible, particularly stairs.  I haven't been near a bike.

It's now back to the point where it only really hurts on stairs, but I expect it wouldn't last if I walked any distance.

I'm working on the principle that I'll give it a week, and if it's not markedly improved, I'll start to think about medical attention.  Until then I'll just take it easy and be depressed by the prospect of this being a long term thing resulting in no proper bike rides until the middle of sodding winter, or worse.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 September, 2016, 12:36:51 am
Maybe see docs asap for prevention of longer term injury? Good luck with it either way.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 21 September, 2016, 07:25:48 am
Blimey Kim.  That doesn't sound good.  Hope it clears up soon.
Best wishes.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 21 September, 2016, 07:42:20 am
Sorry to hear that, Kim. Best see a doctor to be on the safe side. GWS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 21 September, 2016, 08:20:14 am
Crouching stresses achilles something rotten. That combined with the pan-flat riding, so no variation in the position could do it.

If you have shoes with any sort of a heel (I don't mean narrow heels, something raised like boots or trainers with a fat wedge) they might ease the stress. flip-flops will be tight on achilles.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 21 September, 2016, 10:59:17 am
I would guess an acutetenosynovitis as a result of a lot of small changes.  new shoes, flat riding constant speed, etc.

Rest ice compression and elevation.  Ibuprofen if you can.

see a physio and look for some calf stretches and then gradual mobilisation.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 21 September, 2016, 11:04:26 am
Aw hell. My guess is dehydration and dead-flat terrain, for all that that'll help.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 September, 2016, 11:13:26 am
The only time I had Achilles trouble was in my first year of Audax when I
Did a 300 with a grotty chest, then gained and lost 4kg (presumably water), then helped shift concert staging and continued my 200 miles/week upright riding.

So I had big fluid shifts and minor trauma. You might have had similar.

Being on the upright, I could minimise/eliminate ankling.
I found Voltarol/ibuprofen helpful.

Keep your ankles up and cool. (Camping head-down gave me the final cure 3 months on.)

Higher heels can help.

GWS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 September, 2016, 01:36:45 pm
Okay, that all makes sense.

I forgot to say that I ate my way through the stash of Naproxen that I had with me during the tour.  I've been avoiding NSAIs since I got back to give my digestive system a break, but could probably tolerate some ibuprofen now.

And yes, group riding.  Mostly of the pedal-pedal-pedal-coast-pedal-pedal-pedal-coast-coast-brake-coast-pedal-pedal-pedal variety.  That's not conducive to good biomechanics.

But my instinct is to blame the shoes.  I'll do a side-by-side comparison with the old ones and see if there's a marked difference in the flexibility of the rear strap.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 21 September, 2016, 01:51:28 pm
My more conservative colleagues occasionally put those with the worst Achilles issues into below-knee casts.

Just do your very best to reduce ankle movements; your hips & knees can do most of the work and get well soon!

Try not to exceed 48 hours on NSAIDS.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 21 September, 2016, 03:58:02 pm
I was recently explaining to fboab that blokes don't need a thermometer when they have a fever - they just need a graduated scale down one thigh; the degree of fever can then be measured by how low one's bollocks dangle.

Today I appear to be fighting a lurgy. As well as sweating more than Jimmy Saville in a Playground (that's not one of my sayings BTW - my son taught me that - so you can blame him), my nads are definitely in "Fuck me, it's hot around here" mode.

Also - all I want to do is sleep (on top of the covers).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 September, 2016, 04:51:03 pm
My more conservative colleagues occasionally put those with the worst Achilles issues into below-knee casts.

Boabword that.


Quote
Just do your very best to reduce ankle movements; your hips & knees can do most of the work and get well soon!

That's pretty much what I've been doing.  Avoiding crouching down is the big one, and a creative approach to stairs.

Fortunately for now, there appears to be an outbreak of computer programming weather...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 21 September, 2016, 08:26:10 pm
Oh, I did a side-by-side comparison of the two sets of sandals.  Only real difference is that the rear strap is somewhat more flexible in the older ones.  But that could well be enough to cause problems.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ElyDave on 22 September, 2016, 09:14:34 am
I've had some major Achilles issues in the last few years to the extent that I'm really not running much at all this year, only target being a New year's eve 10k I always run. No ultra's, no HMs, all very easy.

My experience
1) find a sports injury/sports rehab specialist, they will focus on keeping you moving AND the underlying issue if they are any good. Specifically get them to look at the rear chain, which is chronically tight/shortened in cyclists and runners.  I could probably get a contact for you if you want from therapists I trust, let me know where you are.
2) Do the exercises
3) have you got a sit/stand desk?  If not worth getting one, rear chain tightness, hip flexor degradation all influenced by prolonged sitting
4) start doing yoga
5) lots of calf raises 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 September, 2016, 09:26:12 am
Rear chain tightness? She's not a fixie, you know!


My question.
Three weeks post surgery. Most things going well, except if I don't take care about how I move, my ulna dislocates (I can tell this by feel, this is happening under the cast).
Also, I'm getting bruising at my elbow. There was a lot to begin with, that started to go, but this looks persistent. It's still blue/black and is tender. The surgery was up close to my wrist, so I'm kind of surprised I'm getting bruising down at my elbow  still.

MrsC thinks I should call the hospital and ask about it. What does the panel think?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 22 September, 2016, 01:43:16 pm
I've had some major Achilles issues in the last few years to the extent that I'm really not running much at all this year, only target being a New year's eve 10k I always run. No ultra's, no HMs, all very easy.

My experience
1) find a sports injury/sports rehab specialist, they will focus on keeping you moving AND the underlying issue if they are any good. Specifically get them to look at the rear chain, which is chronically tight/shortened in cyclists and runners.  I could probably get a contact for you if you want from therapists I trust, let me know where you are.
2) Do the exercises
3) have you got a sit/stand desk?  If not worth getting one, rear chain tightness, hip flexor degradation all influenced by prolonged sitting
4) start doing yoga
5) lots of calf raises

TBH, I was hoping this could be treated by allowing it to recover and just not doing whatever one-off thing it was that pissed it off.

Prolonged standing (and indeed anything remotely like running) is contraindicated due to other issues.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 22 September, 2016, 01:50:21 pm
Mr C if you're asking... I'd call the hospital, you've had complex issues and you're concerned. If there are problems, you want to know and sort them sooner rather than later, especially still dislocating etc. 

I've never regretted getting hand surgery stuff checked out. Trust your instincts and that of those who know you.  Hands are precious.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 22 September, 2016, 01:52:30 pm
Wot barakta sed...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 24 September, 2016, 07:47:49 pm
I finally got the pressure Test done on Thursday .the result is I no longer need the Catheter  ;D.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 24 September, 2016, 07:56:07 pm
He has the dry MD. He says the damage in one eye covers about 3x the area of the other. Is to go back next week for another imaging session so they can assess the initial rate of degradation.

So he's been for another scan and apparently one eye has already progressed to wet MD, so he gets to have an injection in that one. Lovely.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 24 September, 2016, 08:25:32 pm
I finally got the pressure Test done on Thursday .the result is I no longer need the Catheter  ;D.

About bloody time!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 25 September, 2016, 12:26:06 am
I finally got the pressure Test done on Thursday .the result is I no longer need the Catheter  ;D.

  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 September, 2016, 09:15:47 am
I finally got the pressure Test done on Thursday .the result is I no longer need the Catheter  ;D.
Blimey that's been a long haul.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 25 September, 2016, 03:18:25 pm
I finally got the pressure Test done on Thursday .the result is I no longer need the Catheter  ;D.

Another for the 'about bloody time' chorus!  HURRAH!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 25 September, 2016, 07:23:32 pm
And as a parting gift I now have another water infection  ::-).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 25 September, 2016, 07:34:15 pm
AARRRGGGHHH! Hope you can get on top of this!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 26 September, 2016, 08:10:10 am
I am taking trimethoprim so I hope all will be well soon  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 September, 2016, 09:05:36 am
Good luck.  Last time I had a urinary infection the quack gave me stuff that turned my piddle blue for a week. Blue-blooded as a compliment I could accept, but folk queueing up to watch that marvel was a bit much.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 September, 2016, 12:37:43 pm
Someone posted a link to a really good article about the causes of blood vessels blocking/clogging. Can I find it? can I heck.

A colleague who is going in for angioplasty would like a read.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 27 September, 2016, 03:57:20 pm
I've just tried walking further than the kitchen for the first time since last Sunday.  Did some calf stretches first.

400m total, discomfort (possibly slightly less for the second hundred metres) on both sides.  Not actual pain.  Stairs were okay after I got back.

If it's just that I could tolerate it as merely annoying.


I'm probably going to have to do that much walking again tomorrow, as we're doing Lawyers.

Will see how it goes.

 :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: fboab on 27 September, 2016, 06:15:03 pm
I've an appointment at the dentist next Thursday at 9am.
And have just pulled out a crown (lower R5).
Will it wait?

(I feel sick)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 27 September, 2016, 06:21:48 pm
Gws Kim and all the rest of you  :). Not a great deal of change for me at the moment . I gave a urine sample to the doctor's surgery today and will now have to wait for the results  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 27 September, 2016, 06:40:01 pm
I've an appointment at the dentist next Thursday at 9am.
And have just pulled out a crown (lower R5).
Will it wait?

(I feel sick)

If it doesn't hurt and is a post crown, yes.
If it doesn't hurt and is a jacket crown on a root-filled tooth, yes.
If it hurts and the tooth is not root filled, possibly not but you might be OK.

Keep broken tooth & surrounds clean.

Do not replace crown to fill the gap; you will swallow it.
DAMHIKT!

Hope you're fixed soon!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 28 September, 2016, 10:39:56 am
Overslept, woke up hypoglycaemic, been muzzy and pop-eyed since.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 05 October, 2016, 11:44:39 am
40 minutes of circuit training on Monday.

I hope today marks the peak of the DOMs. Ow.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 05 October, 2016, 06:31:35 pm
Had some fun'n'games this morning.

Went to bed at midnight feeling fine, then awoke abruptly at about 3am with a sudden need to vomit. Along with the vomiting and somewhat painful coughing came some blood in the vomit and some shortness of breath, which (ironically) meant I couldn't suck in the air through my inhaler to try to fix.

Mostly panicked by the blood in the vomit and the shortness of breath I rang 111 for advice, expecting to be told to see my GP in the morning or, at worst, take myself up to the walk-in clinic. I wasn't expecting to be told that an ambulance was on its way - I was still sitting in my pyjamas!

I pulled some clothes on and locked Blu in the kitchen (so he didn't lick the paramedics to DETH), and when they arrived they put me on a nebuliser to sort my breathing. One thing fixed. They also did an ECG in my living room, which has left me with some lovely shaved patches on my chest  :thumbsup: but as they couldn't pinpoint the cause of the blood in the vomit, they decided to play safe and take me in for a doctor to check me over.

So, off to A&E - for a long wait, another ECG, some blood tests and a chest X-Ray. After all that, the doc decided that there was nothing worrysome on any of the tests and said I could go home. Then it was just the fun of finding the appropriate bus route and bay at the hospital, getting some change, and getting back across town. Home by 9am and sleeeeeep.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 05 October, 2016, 07:52:45 pm
Eeep, hope yuo're feeling less rough now Dibdib.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mcshroom on 05 October, 2016, 09:33:56 pm
First of three dentist appointments in three weeks over and done with. I'm now minus the retained root of a wisdom tooth that seemed to break before it even appeared, and plus an ache in the right hand side of my face.

Just the two root canal treatments on a tooth on the other side of my mouth to go now  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 05 October, 2016, 10:02:09 pm
How feeling now, Dibbers?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Dibdib on 05 October, 2016, 11:22:26 pm
Yup, much improved  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 06 October, 2016, 10:00:00 am
Glad of that, stuff like that is alarming. Hope you stay well.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 October, 2016, 12:24:36 pm
My question.
Three weeks post surgery. Most things going well, except if I don't take care about how I move, my ulna dislocates (I can tell this by feel, this is happening under the cast).
Also, I'm getting bruising at my elbow. There was a lot to begin with, that started to go, but this looks persistent. It's still blue/black and is tender. The surgery was up close to my wrist, so I'm kind of surprised I'm getting bruising down at my elbow  still.

MrsC thinks I should call the hospital and ask about it. What does the panel think?
I finally got in to see the doc on Tues this week (yes, a week and a half after I phoned them saying I had slight concerns).
they cut off cast, xrayed and the surgeon examined things. All ok, bruising to be expected. As by then I'd been 5 weeks in plaster, at my suggestion, they didn't put a cast back on, they just sent me home with a wrist brace and instructions not to lift *anything*. The bones haven't actually grown back together yet, it's just held together by the metalwork.

Hand and forearm muscles are extremely wasted and my wrist bones are so stiff, very little movement in my wrist; without the cast I can start to move things very gently. Physio is being booked.

Had a good wash (finally! at home) then spent an entertaining 5min with tweezers pulling hairs out of the healed up incision. They hadn't shaved my arm and had trapped quite a lot of hairs when they sewed me back up!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 06 October, 2016, 01:21:32 pm
Glad things are as OK as surgeon would expect at this point. Good luck with splint and keeping activity to permitted levels! :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 October, 2016, 03:36:21 pm
The splint I've been given is comfortable, but is a rubbery sponge substance and sweaty. After only 4 days (and I've washed my arm every day), it stinks like my son's socks (and they were declared illegal under the convention banning chemical warfare).

If I butcher an old sock or similar to wear underneath (so it can be washed) do you reckon it would lesson the tendency of the splint to stink?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Riggers on 07 October, 2016, 04:03:14 pm
Just read this. Must have been one hellava scare!1 glad you're feeling improved now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 07 October, 2016, 04:54:53 pm
The splint I've been given is comfortable, but is a rubbery sponge substance and sweaty. After only 4 days (and I've washed my arm every day), it stinks like my son's socks (and they were declared illegal under the convention banning chemical warfare).

If I butcher an old sock or similar to wear underneath (so it can be washed) do you reckon it would lesson the tendency of the splint to stink?

Slightly.
Hands & feet have similar skin, with similar sweating.

Hands don't usually smell cos you wash them about 10 times a day. When you treat them like feet, they pong like feet...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 07 October, 2016, 05:51:37 pm
Hands don't usually smell cos you wash them about 10 times a day. When you treat them like feet, they pong like feet...

Stick your nose inside a randonneur's glove that's been on all day, and take a good deep breath - you'll know this to be true  ;D :sick:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 07 October, 2016, 09:17:38 pm
I will decline your kind suggestion, if it's all the same to you, thank you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 11 October, 2016, 12:32:40 pm
Measles outbreak in Edinburgh, ffs.  >:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 11 October, 2016, 01:07:33 pm
Glastonbury, Edinbury. Folk in Dundee are probably safe.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 11 October, 2016, 01:48:08 pm
Measles outbreaks shouldn't be a thing  >:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 11 October, 2016, 02:04:41 pm
It took me a long time to understand measles. I had it when I was about 8 and, well, it was just a week or two off school with a temperature and spots. Like chicken pox and lots of other things. Just part of growing up. Deadly for the malnourished and doctorless in darkest third world shanty towns, I could see that, but not a thing to worry about here. It was only when I met people who'd caught it as adults I realised it can be quite nasty.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 11 October, 2016, 02:07:24 pm
It's hard to spend much time around the Deaf community without developing an appreciation of measles...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 11 October, 2016, 03:06:30 pm
Not feeling too great today.

Is it the dreaded lurgy?

 :o
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 12 October, 2016, 10:00:02 am
I need to rebuild my strength after a dreadful stomach and chest virus which has knocked me flat for most of October so far. I'm struggling to eat anything and have no appetite, apart from the odd tummy grumbling late at night. I've lost over two inches round my waist and feel very, very weak. I can't eat dairy, wheat or refined sugar as they make me feel light-headed, bloated and give me the runs. I'm vegetarian (I sometimes eat the odd bit of fish but can't stomach it at the moment). I can just about manage white rice and the odd few vegetables but other than that am stuck. Any ideas?!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 October, 2016, 10:25:59 am
Miso soup usually hits the spot for me when my body is wrecked after illness and rich foods don't appeal.

Then gradual introduction of other things.
I'm not a fan of white rice, preferring brown. A rice salad that has a lot of semi-raw ginger, a bit of garlic, soy and whatever your nose says smells good, with toasted seeds and chopped (chopped really small) greens in it, nearly 50% salad/rice by volume can work. I put the garlic/ginger in when the rice is 2/3rds cooked so that the flavour permeates the rice but it still has some of the raw crunch.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 12 October, 2016, 10:31:36 am
Thanks mrcharly. I normally don't eat any white rice, always brown, but I can't stomach much brown rice at the moment. I had a little last night and didn't react well to it. I've not tried Miso soup. That's an idea if we can track some down in Skipton. The one thing I can tolerate well is stewed apple, but I don't enjoy it!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 October, 2016, 11:48:23 am
Sounds like your digestion has shut down. I'd maybe stick to really simple things then, miso soup with maybe  few rice noodles, try with some ginger also. Don't eat much at one go.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 12 October, 2016, 12:49:40 pm
How are you with potatoes?
GWS!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 12 October, 2016, 01:11:24 pm
I can eat a small amount of potato but it then causes constipation. Followed by the runs. I can't seem to win.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Chris S on 12 October, 2016, 01:17:38 pm
Fermented food? Yogurt or, miso with Kimchi? Sounds like your internal biome is out of whack.

Maybe pester Woolly for a fecal transplant?  ;)

Hope you pick up soon.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 13 October, 2016, 12:41:03 pm
It took me a long time to understand measles. I had it when I was about 8 and, well, it was just a week or two off school with a temperature and spots. Like chicken pox and lots of other things. Just part of growing up. Deadly for the malnourished and doctorless in darkest third world shanty towns, I could see that, but not a thing to worry about here. It was only when I met people who'd caught it as adults I realised it can be quite nasty.
My grandad (born 1918) had infant measles. It left him partially deaf, partially sighted and with severe facial scarring, and he was considered to have got off lightly.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 14 October, 2016, 01:14:54 pm
Got the flu vaccination yesterday. It usually knocks me for a loop and this time is no exception.  As it happens, today there's lots going on that requires my attention and I feel more like sleeping until Sunday.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Basil on 14 October, 2016, 01:53:29 pm
I hear this a lot.  I had my first  jab three years ago.   No ill effects.   Didn't  bother last year.  Had one earlier this week.   Again no probs.   Am I the only one?

I'm also the only bloke I know who didn't  die from a vasectomy many years ago.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 October, 2016, 02:03:40 pm
Yes, Basil, you are the only one.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2016, 02:07:49 pm
This year's flu jab symptoms amounted to about 3 hours of sore arm.  Though I've had low-level lurgy and cycling withdrawal symptoms for weeks, which may be masking other effects.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 14 October, 2016, 02:08:08 pm
The vaccination gives you a very mild dose of the flu, and for some reason flu always lays me flat for a few days.  Maybe diabetes mellitus gives viruses a better habitat than in normal humans, I dunno. I never did understand how that might come about, since viruses make you ill by hijacking intracellular mechanisms and killing the cell rather than metabolizing like buggery and eating you from the inside out, as bacteria do. All my doc ever does when asked is look wise and change the subject.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2016, 02:28:14 pm
The seasonal flu vaccination isn't a live virus; it won't kill cells.  The effects should be purely down the the immune response, and physical effects of the injection.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tiermat on 14 October, 2016, 03:08:05 pm
I had my 'flu jab, yesterday, it doesn't seem to have any ill effects this year (unlike last year when it ruined a romantic evening out with Mrs T).

Hopefully this will be the last year I need to have it (I am on Methatrexate, which they are ramping down).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 14 October, 2016, 04:18:31 pm
The seasonal flu vaccination isn't a live virus; it won't kill cells.  The effects should be purely down the the immune response, and physical effects of the injection.

I was just thinking that myself. Should have put "equivalent of" in my first sentence.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 14 October, 2016, 06:13:44 pm
No Basil. My flu jab only caused the nurse to remark on my thick skin! ;D
Nil else.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: tonyh on 15 October, 2016, 06:54:47 am
Also no ill effects to speak of. I've been very keen to get the jab ever since I had a dose of Flu about 30 years ago.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 15 October, 2016, 01:28:03 pm
Maybe pester Woolly for a fecal transplant?  ;)
Er, thanks Chris! Some things are not meant for sharing.  :sick:

Still struggling to eat, even bland things like Greek yoghurt or bananas. No appetite, reflux when I try to eat. Stomach feels very icky. I'm wondering whether Huel is worth a go. I am losing weight quite alarmingly and am definitely not getting the nutrients I need. It's expensive though!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 15 October, 2016, 01:45:08 pm
Maybe you should ask you GP for a Liver function blood test...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 15 October, 2016, 01:47:15 pm
Thanks Helly. I'm planning to see the doctor on Monday so I'll suggest that.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 October, 2016, 01:50:47 pm
I suggest avoiding anything with sugar in it or simple carbs.

Huel is just porridge with vitamins and some added protein from other flours.

I've had systemic collapse of digestion and IBS combined - subsisted on just plain potato and a small amount of yogurt for weeks, it was all I could eat without gross acid reflux or instant diarrhea. It's highly unpleasant, so you have my great sympathy.

Can you eat nuts at all? Nuts and seeds digest ok in an acid stomach.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 15 October, 2016, 02:01:16 pm
Thanks mrcharly. It's horrid, isn't it? I'm pretty down at the moment.

I tried porridge with soy milk with seeds (chia, ground linseed, pumpkin) but it doesn't stay in for long. I'm drinking Marigold veg bouillon off and on which gives me a tiny bit of energy. I'll try a spoonful of nut butter and some seeds on their own.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 October, 2016, 02:20:25 pm
I wouldn't suggest mixing carbs with protein in one meal when your digest is screwed up.

Stick to one or the other, and small amounts at a time. I was very weak when I went through this and dropped to about 9 stone from about 11 stone.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 15 October, 2016, 02:23:58 pm
OK, good advice, thanks.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 15 October, 2016, 03:18:11 pm
Agreed.  At this point I'd concentrate on getting the digestive system to tolerate *something* and worry about nutrients later.

Proton-pump inhibitors worth trying maybe?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: simonp on 17 October, 2016, 10:13:05 pm
I started coming down with A Lurgy last Tuesday. By Thursday I left work a bit early, was off sick on Friday, and didn't think I'd make the rowing club dinner on Saturday evening, but felt better enough* by the end of the day.

Time off work for a cold always makes me feel a bit pathetic, but when on the phone to my boss (who is at a different site) today said one of our site managers said there's been a nasty 'flu bug going round our office. So I feel a bit less of a weakling now.

I'd suspect it's not 'flu except I still feel pretty low on energy despite the major symptoms having now relented. Rowing training is cancelled tomorrow due to the Supermoon causing very high tides, and I'm quite relieved. Lunchtime today was quite odd - I felt really hungry, got a salad, and then really struggled to eat it. All I've eaten this evening is some tinned mackerel on toast.


* Apparently I "wasn't right at all" at the dinner.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 18 October, 2016, 08:00:22 am
i hope you feel better soon nikki  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 18 October, 2016, 02:03:29 pm
I'm thinking that maybe compacts are better for the joints.  This year I've ridden almost exclusively my 2x11, and found crawling up hills very easy, given that you just keep on shifting the rear derailler down a notch until you're comfy with it.  When I took out the old 3x10 the other week the old "I can do this hill on the middle chainring" spirit asserted itself and I woke up the arthritis in both ankles, first go it's had in over a year.  Been hobbling ever since.  Can still ride, though, on the 2x11.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 October, 2016, 03:29:01 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37733162 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37733162)
DIY surgery...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: campagman on 24 October, 2016, 06:41:12 pm
It doesn't say but do you think that was diabetes related?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 October, 2016, 06:53:07 pm
Very possibly. Probably also smoking-related foot rot.

(I recall a diabetologist describing the problem as Pus in Boots)

Diabetic neuropathy would also make this DIY fairly painless.

I had similar DIY patients when I was a student/house officer in 198*.

This is not a New Thing.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 October, 2016, 11:14:25 am
Quite a horrible little experience this morning.

As I was dressing, I suddenly noticed that I couldn't read the complete display on my digital clock. When I was looking at the minutes I couldn't see the hour, and when I looked directly at the last digit of the minutes the rest of the display was hidden behind a grey patch.  At first I thought I must have looked straight into my bedside light, but when it didn't clear I got worried.

I already have blind spots in my eyes from the diabetes, caused by tiny oedemata which irritate my ophthalmologist because she can't see them.  One of these is close to or partially overlaps my right macula.  Now it appeared as if the left macula had acquired a bigger one, leaving me effectively blind in the centre of the visual field.  I had visions of not being able to read any more.

Then, gradually, my left macula cleared.  The culprit turned out to be the Mother of All Floaters, which must have slowly drifted into focus while I was dressing.  It gradually migrated to the top of the visual field (i.e. the bottom of my eye), and 15 minutes later it was gone.

The MOAF was really quite beautiful, BTW, like a string of sparkling triangular crystals looped around from 8 o'clock to 2 o'clock, but I was glad when it rose out of sight.  Back when I had my last stent put in one appeared during the op, and coiled into a disc that eventually settled and stuck at about 5 o'clock and a third of the way down from the macula. Visual extinction means I don't see it too often, but if this morning's effort had decided to stick over the macula I'd be fairly blind right now. No more reading, no more bike, no more driving; not much of anything, really.

The cause? Probably the sushi the missus brought home from shopping yesterday.  I didn't want to disappoint her by saying "I can't eat that", and I reckoned a blood sugar spike wouldn't do that much damage.  And during the op in July I would have been on a glucose drip...

Need to be more careful in future. No more sticky rice, for one thing.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 October, 2016, 11:35:09 am
Floater or migraine aura?

I've never had a floater that looked like crystals. A 'fractured, crystal' appearance is more like migraine aura (which are not always accompanied by pain). They are not always static.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 October, 2016, 01:29:51 pm
Everything's possible, I suppose, but I don't suffer from migraine and had no pain at all.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 26 October, 2016, 01:37:22 pm
Sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma to me.

It's only happened to me a couple of times, and on the first occasion the initial symptom was much like you describe with the clock:  There was a gap in my visual field that the brain was filling in, which only became apparent when I tried to read, and was there irrespective of what part of eyes I used.  Over the next ten minutes or so it developed into textbook scintillating scotoma (much like the second two animated examples on that page), then suddenly disappeared, replaced by an acute headache.

I'm glad it's not something I've made a habit of.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 October, 2016, 01:46:19 pm
Yeah - those things. Without meds, I get those most days of the week as a side effect, for several hours of the day. Between 1/5 and 1/2 of my visual field. I'd not come across that wikipedia page before, the simulations on there are pretty accurate.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 26 October, 2016, 01:49:58 pm
Sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma to me.

It's only happened to me a couple of times, and on the first occasion the initial symptom was much like you describe with the clock:  There was a gap in my visual field that the brain was filling in, which only became apparent when I tried to read, and was there irrespective of what part of eyes I used.  Over the next ten minutes or so it developed into textbook scintillating scotoma (much like the second two animated examples on that page), then suddenly disappeared, replaced by an acute headache.

I'm glad it's not something I've made a habit of.

You're right, it does, although the disturbance, in both the cases I mentioned, was made up of regular triangles.  I'll try and simulate it in PS below.

Thanks for the name & reference.

(http://www.pbase.com/image/164383350.jpg)

Not very accurate: the triangles were smaller but ICBA with so many layers; they were brighter with rainbow edges, and they did scintillate as they moved.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 November, 2016, 03:13:15 pm
Study shows soft drink industry-sponsored studies less likely to show soft drink link with diabetes/obesity than studies not so sponsored...
Apologies for paywall.
http://www.bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i5852?sso= (http://www.bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i5852?sso=)

Quelle surprise!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: philip on 02 November, 2016, 10:06:05 pm
Why does a common cold make my legs ache?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Feanor on 02 November, 2016, 10:13:54 pm
Dunno, but one of the first signs I'm coming down with a lurgy is a dull ache behind my knees.
Always has been, for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 02 November, 2016, 10:48:49 pm
Muscle pain aka myalgia is one of those 'flu-like symptoms' (like headache) known from time immemorial. I don't know if it is associated with a raised temperature.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 08 November, 2016, 08:05:15 am
I remember reading about pain thresholds years & years ago - that non-serious low-level pains are blocked by "gateways", otherwise we'd feel them all the time, but when we're ill, or when a bad enough pain to get through the gateway occurs, then the low-level ones get through as well.  That would be something like 1960s science, though, there might just have been some progress since. ;D
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 16 November, 2016, 05:07:50 pm
I remember reading about pain thresholds years & years ago - that non-serious low-level pains are blocked by "gateways", otherwise we'd feel them all the time, but when we're ill, or when a bad enough pain to get through the gateway occurs, then the low-level ones get through as well.  That would be something like 1960s science, though, there might just have been some progress since. ;D
No silver jumpsuits yet though.

My innards are troubling me. I've been having intermittent bouts of Bristol stool chart 5s and 6s with noticeable urgency for ages now, but put it down to my sertraline. But I've been on the sertraline 18 months and the innards problems are getting worse - I'm shitting multiple times a day, I'm having unpleasant gnawing pain in my mid abdomen sometimes, followed by a 3-4 on the stool chart, crampy growliness in my lower abdomen at times, and lots and lots of urgency followed by more 5s and 6s. And when I say urgency, if I lived on the 3rd floor instead of the 2nd, I'd have a lot of cleaning up to do. So I'm off to the GP tomorrow.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 16 November, 2016, 05:12:42 pm
Sorry to hear that. Any changes to your diet? Stress?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 16 November, 2016, 05:21:18 pm
No changes to my diet. Stress - well, yeah, I work in public services and redundancies are coming. But my usual reaction to stress is eczema, and that's not too bad just now.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 November, 2016, 05:43:01 pm
I am not a diabetologist but I understand some diabetics get bowel dysfunction from the gut nerves suffering Diabetic Trouble.

Hope you get sorted anyway!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 16 November, 2016, 06:17:09 pm
I'm not diabetic. My money's on IBS.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 November, 2016, 07:40:16 pm
Mucho sympathy from this direction. I have been in your situation and it is not funny.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 16 November, 2016, 08:41:34 pm
Sorry EG! Thought it was T42, who is.
Anyway hope you are sorted/better soon!

MANY of my friends & family seem to have developed either lactose intolerance or gluten intolerance/coeliac disease in middle or older age.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 17 November, 2016, 11:42:49 am
I don't know which would be worse - no cheese or no cake?!

GP has asked me to get bloods done, and then go back when we will discuss the need for further investigations, likely to involve tubes and cameras and loss of dignity.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 November, 2016, 12:45:12 pm
GN: 12 weeks post-surgery and I have full bony fusion across the osteotomy/graft.

BN: Soft tissue issues on the joint. I still can't weight-bear on my left wrist, riding a drop-handlebar bike is out of the question for some time to come. Physio tried me doing some 'wall-pressups' at a very moderate angle and my ulna was waving about madly, causing soreness. He very quickly got me to stop.

This is going to be a very long process back to riding properly again. I didn't get the butterfly bars fitted to the mercian last weekend, looks like that will be the only way I'm going to be able to ride a proper bike in the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: essexian on 22 November, 2016, 01:03:15 pm
Co-codamol...."fun" isn't it!     :facepalm:

As you may know, I suffered quite a bad fall 2 weeks ago which resulted in head and back injuries. Well, the heads okay now (well...its back to what passes as normal for me!) but the back is still hurting like hell. So, I spoke to the Chemist after trying all the normal painkillers who suggested Co-codamol.

I took two of these on Sunday and felt okay, and a further two yesterday lunchtime. They didn't do much for the pain but blimey, I started feeling really strange with a seriously fast heart rate (110 against my normal of 66) come the evening. My heart was also missing beats all over the place. Also, whenever I moved I got extremely dizzy and almost fell twice. It was so bad that I even thought of phoning an ambulance. However, reading the leaflet in the box of pills I noted that this is one of the side effects so I thought I would try and sleep it off.

Come this morning, my heart was still around 100, so I phoned my GP who saw me within the hour and sent me down to Stafford General for a ECG. This showed nothing major thankfully. Overall, the GP and hospital think its down to the painkiller which should take a day or two to work the way out of my system.

Thus, while it is unlikely to be the same for everyone....co-codamol is very risky stuff for me it seems!

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 November, 2016, 01:16:10 pm
Essexian, unless you have stomach ulcers or bleeding issues I suggest trying paracetamol and aspirin combined, particularly soluble aspirin. This is much more effective at reducing pain than taken separately.

Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: essexian on 22 November, 2016, 01:24:40 pm
Cheers for the suggestion. I found that separately they didn't do much for me.

My GP has prescribed Naproxen which I'll try. Bad news is that he said that my back may take some months to fully recover!

 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 22 November, 2016, 04:17:11 pm
Naproxen will do your back a lot more good that straight painkillers, too.  It can go for your gut, though, so if that happens you'll need to see your doc for an omeprazole (or similar) prescription. Gaviscon can help too, and is over-the-counter.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Jakob on 23 November, 2016, 07:27:56 am
Started getting real dizzy last night along with some weird tingling on the left forearm.
Googling suggested TIA, but still had full motor control, memory etc. Was still pretty woozy when I woke up and after a couple of hours at work, I decided it was enough and went to the ER.
Doc said that in 95% of the cases, the dizziness in young men (In hospital terms,I'm apparently still young) is from an inner ear viral infection or similar, but with the tinging and pins & needles, I made the right decision and they ran the bloodwork and a CT scan. All came back negative  Got some gavrol, which helped and getting a follow-up with a neurologist just to make sure. Still a bit woozy and low energy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 23 November, 2016, 07:30:18 am
Gosh, that's a bit scary Jakob.  Take care.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 23 November, 2016, 10:00:57 am
Aye. Take it easy.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ian on 23 November, 2016, 01:06:00 pm
I have an athlete's heart apparently. More importantly, I'm not giving it him back.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 23 November, 2016, 01:13:25 pm
That can either mean the heart of an athlete or a condition called athlete's heart, meaning that it shows an ECG abnormality which in non-athletic individuals implies coronary problems.  You can get athlete's heart by running your heart too fast for too long: it'll usually disappear in a few days. In 2003 I did a rather heavy ride over the Vosges a couple of days before a cardiac stress test. The cardiologist took fright and gave me no end of bother.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: ian on 23 November, 2016, 01:26:56 pm
Nah, I just have a low resting heart rate (42 and that was after blood extraction anxiety, I hate needles and it took six attempts to find a bloody vein) and splendid blood pressure. Would only be something to worry about if I didn't cycle everywhere and swim every day. And apparently, I don't have DVT, which was why I was there. Which is nice, because I would definitely give that back.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 23 November, 2016, 02:53:57 pm
Bollocks, loose tooth, that's going to leave an interesting gap.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 24 November, 2016, 12:12:38 pm
Well it's still there, dentist reckons it was knocked loose, probably when flying down the road, and is now infected, says it should stabilise  :-\
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 November, 2016, 12:52:13 pm
Hope it does stabilise, even if it turns black, as they often do.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 24 November, 2016, 01:04:43 pm
Thanks helly, at least I now stand a fighting chance of finishing my RRTY this weekend, would have been curtains after 11 months if I'd have had a central incisor pulled today.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 November, 2016, 01:29:21 pm
Actually, having a wobbly pulled could cause less bodily upset than a bruised knee and most randonneurs would continue an RRTY with such.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Si S on 24 November, 2016, 01:38:03 pm
I'm a bit of a wimp really, the last time I rode my bike after dental surgery, impacted wisdom tooth extraction, it didn't end well, passing out on the bike is never a good idea
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 24 November, 2016, 01:43:37 pm
Indeed but an impacted wisdom tooth needs rather more forcible removal than a wobbly peg.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 24 November, 2016, 05:18:14 pm
Somewhat gutted. Cardiac stress test this afternoon: momentarily-depressed ST curve at 153 bpm accompanied by mild discomfort around heart.  Cardiologist wants me back in 6 months instead of usual 12, and he doesn't want me to go over 150 in the meantime.  Really off-pissing is the fact that I was only pushing 180 W at the time.

Implication is that I'll still be able to ride, but Audax might be a bit iffy.  As it is, and has been for the last few years, if the cardio knew what Audax really entails he'd have a canary fit.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: offcumden on 24 November, 2016, 08:59:13 pm
That's a bit of a bugger.  Guess you'll just have to try and rein in your inner Chris Froome (or whoever).  Unfortunately things do slow down with age - let alone infirmity.  Don't want to sound flippant but, as I tell my wife, even if things take a bit longer these days, it's just as much fun.

I'm in the process of planning a tour of Yorkshire (hills inevitable) for a group of continental cyclos next year, and am doing my best not only to allay their fears about the kind of ascents they've seen on the telly during the Grand Depart, but also to avoid making it what the locals might call 'a toil of a pleasure'.  Negotiating the N. York Moors while keeping your heart below 150 bpm would be tricky.  Here I am worrying on their behalf, but by the time we do the ride I'll be pushing 75 - years, not inches. Easy does it . . .

Hope things go well for you.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 November, 2016, 09:37:52 am
Cheers.  I'm not too worried, as long as it doesn't develop any further.  Cardio was going to dismiss it until I mentioned the mild discomfort, which made him sigh.

Me too.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 25 November, 2016, 01:06:01 pm
You really should not tell your doctor the truth! 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 25 November, 2016, 01:09:39 pm
Aye but this was just the cardiologist.  My own doc just said "oh, cardiologists" and told me not to worry.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 03 December, 2016, 10:21:32 am
Due to work needing to train me for entry into confined spaces (stop sniggering at the back) I had to have a medical yesterday.

All fairly basic, general medical history, BP, sight, etc. but also my first time for a lung function test and an audiology test.

Now I play a brass instrument so have done many breathing exercises in the past, however there is normally some resistance to the exhalation, those spirometers are horrible. All made more fun by a sore throat and swollen tonsils.

As for the audiology test it was the basic listen for the beeps at 600Hz, 1kHz, 2kHz, 3kHz, 5kHz, and 8kHz so not the most sensitive of tests but the indication was that my hearing is 15 years younger than I am  :thumbsup:

Final part was 5 minutes up and down a step exercise block before pulse three times to watch my heart rate recover. The cycling endurance background showed through, so I have been passed fit to undertake my confined space training.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 03 December, 2016, 03:00:12 pm
As for the audiology test it was the basic listen for the beeps at 600Hz, 1kHz, 2kHz, 3kHz, 5kHz, and 8kHz so not the most sensitive of tests but the indication was that my hearing is 15 years younger than I am  :thumbsup:

Age related hearing loss could reasonably be defined as the point where your loss of high-frequency hearing finally reaches the point that audiologists bother testing for.

I've lost loads of sensitivity to high frequencies over the last few years (I'm now immune to flyback transformer[1] whistle, teenager repellent, bats, minor disc brake rubbing, probably some SMPSU whine too) but it's all above 8kHz so doesn't count.  My audiogram is healthy.

Anyway, for the avoidance of doubt, standing orders to fellow cyclists in anticipation of old age:  If my chain and/or brakes[2] are squeaking and I don't appear to have noticed, please tell me.  Hopefully this will avoid the oh so British dilemma of wondering whether it's impolite to secretly lubricate another cyclist's chain for the good of humanity while they're in the cafe queue.


[1] Remember those?
[2] Unless it's the Kool Stops on the Dawes, which I've grudgingly accepted are *supposed* to do that.  Pedestrian warning system, innit.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: sojournermike on 03 December, 2016, 10:53:30 pm
As for the audiology test it was the basic listen for the beeps at 600Hz, 1kHz, 2kHz, 3kHz, 5kHz, and 8kHz so not the most sensitive of tests but the indication was that my hearing is 15 years younger than I am  :thumbsup:

Age related hearing loss could reasonably be defined as the point where your loss of high-frequency hearing finally reaches the point that audiologists bother testing for.

I've lost loads of sensitivity to high frequencies over the last few years (I'm now immune to flyback transformer[1] whistle, teenager repellent, bats, minor disc brake rubbing, probably some SMPSU whine too) but it's all above 8kHz so doesn't count.  My audiogram is healthy.

Anyway, for the avoidance of doubt, standing orders to fellow cyclists in anticipation of old age:  If my chain and/or brakes[2] are squeaking and I don't appear to have noticed, please tell me.  Hopefully this will avoid the oh so British dilemma of wondering whether it's impolite to secretly lubricate another cyclist's chain for the good of humanity while they're in the cafe queue.


[1] Remember those?
[2] Unless it's the Kool Stops on the Dawes, which I've grudgingly accepted are *supposed* to do that.  Pedestrian warning system, innit.


I was made acutely aware of my age related hearing loss when I first assembled my current PWM and SMPSU. I sort of thought something wasn't quite right
 My 14 musician daughter clapped her hands over her ears and yelped.

I have not yet succumbed to hearing aids, although I've seen enough live music to deserve one. My younger brother has and swears by his, bit he played more gigs than I've seen
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 December, 2016, 11:21:29 pm
I have no idea what PWM and SPSU are (I guess electronickery) but it is never acceptable to adjust someone else's bike (or other vehicle) without their permission. OTOH I can't see any objection to telling someone their bike is squeaking/rattling/etc.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 05 December, 2016, 03:52:54 pm
I don't know which would be worse - no cheese or no cake?!

GP has asked me to get bloods done, and then go back when we will discuss the need for further investigations, likely to involve tubes and cameras and loss of dignity.
Got the bloods done. Going back in half an hour to get the results and discuss next steps.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 05 December, 2016, 04:05:54 pm
I don't know which would be worse - no cheese or no cake?!

GP has asked me to get bloods done, and then go back when we will discuss the need for further investigations, likely to involve tubes and cameras and loss of dignity.
Got the bloods done. Going back in half an hour to get the results and discuss next steps.

Hope it's all nice and boring and routine EG with no bad news xx

In more mundane stuff, I've just done my 1.4 mile run, and it's the fastest I've ever done it, and because stupid Strava only looks at segments and not the whole thing, I haven't got a single PB.  Huh.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 05 December, 2016, 05:14:12 pm
Bloods are all normal. I'm not anaemic, not coeliac, no signs of inflammation, no signs of anything that can be shown in bloods. Next step: colonoscopy referral.  ::-)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 05 December, 2016, 05:18:44 pm
Sympathies, good luck!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Ruthie on 05 December, 2016, 05:20:40 pm
Bloods are all normal. I'm not anaemic, not coeliac, no signs of inflammation, no signs of anything that can be shown in bloods. Next step: colonoscopy referral.  ::-)

Ewww, I had one of those, this time last year.  Get someone to take you home afterwards, if you're anything like I was you'll be a bit shaky afterwards.

If they offer you gas and air, I suggest you take it.  It's bloody fantastic.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 05 December, 2016, 05:27:15 pm
Bloods are all normal. I'm not anaemic, not coeliac, no signs of inflammation, no signs of anything that can be shown in bloods. Next step: colonoscopy referral.  ::-)

Ewww, I had one of those, this time last year.  Get someone to take you home afterwards, if you're anything like I was you'll be a bit shaky afterwards.

If they offer you gas and air, I suggest you take it.  It's bloody fantastic.

It's three years since I had my colonoscopy.
I declined sedation (I said they could use it if things were intolerable but they weren't) and strong painkillers but did have Entonox which is pretty good.

I was *really* glad to leave the hospital clear-headed. Not everyone has the choice. Not everyone has an easy ride.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 05 December, 2016, 05:41:24 pm
Good luck EG. I was off my face with the sedation.  I don't remember much. Woolly found it very amusing.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 05 December, 2016, 05:55:12 pm
I'd rather have good painkillers and no sedation.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Gattopardo on 05 December, 2016, 08:10:10 pm
Managed to quite deeply cut a finger, so off to A&E to get is superglued. 

Was supposed to get a dressing change after three days but could get an appointment so after 4 days I took the dressing off and at 5 days took the strips off.  The finger looks gory and is super sensitive. 

Is there anything I can do to speed the healing process, diabetic so I heal slowly :(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 05 December, 2016, 08:25:40 pm
Hands and fingers are precious and advising without examining is not clever.
I think you should see if your GP's Practice Nurse can review and dress your finger.
Injured hands are usually best elevated and mobilised.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 05 December, 2016, 08:45:43 pm
Agreed if you're diabetic you want an expert to look everything over regularly for you - liking Helly's GP nurse suggestion.  Even a mild injury can go very serious very quickly in your situation. 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: cycleman on 06 December, 2016, 06:17:29 am
a minor ailment by most standards on here but i am suffering with the current cold cough sore throat virus that is going around . this day 9 of it . i saw the doctor yesterday lunchtime and my chest was clear so no chest infection . overnight the cough has become dry and infrequent and i think it might to becoming a chest infection  .   i feel i should not bother the doctor again as if it is not a chest infection i would be wasting there time . i and feeling scared and depressed and helpless . :-[. i am such a wimp  :(. all of you who are really suffering get well soon  :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 06 December, 2016, 11:04:32 am
Managed to quite deeply cut a finger, so off to A&E to get is superglued. 

Was supposed to get a dressing change after three days but could get an appointment so after 4 days I took the dressing off and at 5 days took the strips off.  The finger looks gory and is super sensitive. 

Is there anything I can do to speed the healing process, diabetic so I heal slowly :(


I'm also diabetic. Years ago I had a crack in the flesh of one heel: the doc prescribed a corticosteroid cream called Nerisone that healed it up amazingly fast.  I've asked for it again a couple of times, usually for saddle sores, but his response has been "it's not for that".  I know that corticosteroids and diabetes don't go well together, but I'd think that for the couple of days healing would take any other effects would be negligible.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: matthew on 06 December, 2016, 03:20:47 pm
After spending the whole of last week fighting a sore throat / productive cough I have now reached the stage where my throat is clear but my skull feels a size too small.

This is not helped by the fact that I am away from home at the moment and won't be home until after a 3 hour plus train journey tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Kim on 06 December, 2016, 04:54:53 pm
but my skull feels a size too small.

Eloquently put!

I'll file that for future reference next to "feels like someone's dry-cleaned my sinuses".
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: runsoncake on 06 December, 2016, 05:20:31 pm
Had an iffy couple of months, first off an infected toe, germolene etc. wouldn't touch it so GP wacked it with antibiotics (previous toe infection matured into cellulitis so taking no chances), a week after that cleared I got some sort of urine infection with the usual high temp. shivers, constant peeing and generally being on another planet. Even managed to get an out of hours GP to visit at 4.45 am on a Monday. More antibiotics yum!. Got rid of that then acid reflux started getting on my wick and disturbing my beauty sleep. Ranitidene for me then.
On top of that lot my BP started going silly, dizzy an faint every time I stood up so theyve taken me off diuretics for the time being. Fingers crossed no probs. after 5 days off them and BP is not rocketing. Roll on Christmas eh!!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Gattopardo on 06 December, 2016, 05:35:04 pm
Hands and fingers are precious and advising without examining is not clever.
I think you should see if your GP's Practice Nurse can review and dress your finger.
Injured hands are usually best elevated and mobilised.

Thanks for the reply, the cut has been cleaned and the bit of flesh superglued. So I doubt there will be any infection. It just looks gory and feels strange/ hurts.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 December, 2016, 10:35:54 am
BN on Sat I slipped down icy gangplank (welly boots don't have much grip on icy wood) and left arm (the previously broken/grafted/operated one) went between railings with a wonderful twist. I guess the 6mm plate helped . . .

GN it came out looking reasonably straight and I was able to carry on working. No mobility issues.

Wrist is sore this morning, and red, rather than bruising black. I'm assuming soft-tissue inflammation rather than other damage.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 19 December, 2016, 04:26:26 pm
Yikes! Fingers crossed that's minimal damage. Ouch nonetheless!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 19 December, 2016, 04:58:05 pm
@mrcharly: Ouch.

<grumble>
Our doc's wider-still-&-wider practice has a new switchboard with a vocal menu. As far as I can make out all it does is select which secretary is going to make your appointment, the wait to be served is just as long as before. But instead of appointments on the quarter-hour they're now on 10-minute intervals. It's going to be like the NHS before long. Bollocks.
</grumble>
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 December, 2016, 02:48:59 pm
Hoo fuckin' ray!  The doc dropped the cardiologist's 5°C limit to 0°C, so now I can train through most of the winter.  I don't ride on ice anyway, diabetic bones don't heal well.

So apologolilies to aforesaid gent for yestreen's grumble.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 20 December, 2016, 02:57:00 pm
Ouch, mrcharly. That made me wince. Good news, T42!

I'm pissed off. First day of the holidays, I came down with a colleague's lurgy which she'd caught in Hong Kong (I told her not to bring it into the office). Coupled with a cricked neck and nerve pain in my arm I am this:  >:(
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 20 December, 2016, 03:06:04 pm
Sympathies, Peli.  There was a time when HK flu was cause for alarm...
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 December, 2016, 04:00:25 pm
GWS Peli!
Wishing you a happier holiday!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 20 December, 2016, 04:13:33 pm
Thanks Helly and T42. Wish there was something I could do about my diabolically weak immune system. Taking daily corticosteroids (and commuting, and working with students) has made it worse. Bleurgh.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 20 December, 2016, 05:07:41 pm
Ugh sympathies, just remember that immune systems aren't morally superior or inferior despite what some people say.  A huge portion of it is luck and biology.  Reminds me to take EvenMoarDrugz to poke currentlurgy (which I can't even blame germy studes for).
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: peliroja on 20 December, 2016, 05:15:46 pm
Thanks barakta. Get well soon, you!

It doesn't help that some colleagues have cast-iron immunities to bugs and enjoy gloating/ making snide comments.

 "Oh, is Peli off sick again?! I grin and bear it when I'm sick - you've just got to get on with it, haven't you?"

 >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 20 December, 2016, 07:45:30 pm
I hate the smug from people with good immune systems. It's not a morality contest. It helps my disability adviser colleagues recognised this kind of commentary as disablism and the sort of thing our students also get a lot of. Some commenters did buy clue when I explained the problems with their words, but others never did.

I've had crap managers and HR give me (bad) medical advice claiming if I followed it, I wouldn't be ill despite my medical letters saying otherwise - they get the full on "well I didn't die as a baby, this is the body and health I get instead" line which upsets them terribly but it's true, I didn't die and their feelz aren't my problem.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 20 December, 2016, 09:26:29 pm
This year's lurgy is remarkably persistent and doesn't appear to properly shift.  CET Junior has been less than 100% for 6 weeks.  My father has been admitted to hospital with pneumonia and my father-in-law felt sufficiently crocked that he cancelled the using pre-Christmas dinner drinking session (and he has a constitution of an ox). 
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: hellymedic on 20 December, 2016, 10:19:00 pm
I hate the smug from people with good immune systems. It's not a morality contest. It helps my disability adviser colleagues recognised this kind of commentary as disablism and the sort of thing our students also get a lot of. Some commenters did buy clue when I explained the problems with their words, but others never did.

I've had crap managers and HR give me (bad) medical advice claiming if I followed it, I wouldn't be ill despite my medical letters saying otherwise - they get the full on "well I didn't die as a baby, this is the body and health I get instead" line which upsets them terribly but it's true, I didn't die and their feelz aren't my problem.

I hope I've never come across as smug!
My Dad and my partner COMPLAIN that I don't catch lurgies/am never ill.

I KNOW I'm lucky!

I'm sure it helps that I don't get out much and I treated every snotty nose in Edgware for several years.

But I know I am lucky!

Wishing all lurgied yacfers better!
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 20 December, 2016, 10:23:32 pm
*grins at Helly* You don't come across as smug, you recognise you have a good immune system (possibly "too good" given your MS!?) and that it is entirely luck what illnesses people and do not get :)
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Pedaldog on 20 December, 2016, 11:27:55 pm
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I don't ride on ice anyway, diabetic bones don't heal well.

Is this a fact? I have type 2 and insipidus and have suffered various bone problems, including having surgery, since the T2 diagnosis.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: T42 on 21 December, 2016, 07:32:14 am
Thanks barakta. Get well soon, you!

It doesn't help that some colleagues have cast-iron immunities to bugs and enjoy gloating/ making snide comments.

 "Oh, is Peli off sick again?! I grin and bear it when I'm sick - you've just got to get on with it, haven't you?"

 >:( >:( >:(

Kissing cousin to "oh, come on, you're not going to let a teensy little [xxxx] keep you home, are you?"

Where xxx = malady of your choice, e.g. broken thumbnail, cracked skull, heart attack, broken leg, etc.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: barakta on 21 December, 2016, 09:13:23 pm
Kissing cousin to "oh, come on, you're not going to let a teensy little [xxxx] keep you home, are you?"

I think people aren't accustomed to people having "actually bad asthma" or diabetes and assume cos many people benefit from modern meds that it's not much of an issue. And they don't know stuff like people who use wheelchairs are at risk of UTIs and chest infections being VERY dangerous. I don't know how I do know stuff like this, possibly from my activism and work with disabled people, learning from people with different conditions and making sure I help educate others (or tell them to ask medical advice) in others (as I've met lifelong fairly severely disabled wheelchair users who didn't know a chest infection was potentially dangerous as all heck for them)

I often take great delight in asking ppl dismissing me where they got their medical degree (or equivalent clinical qualification) from and what specialism they have in snot/bones/etc and if they think their judgement is more important than my $clinician... 

For all that clinicians are not all perfect, I rarely meet one who dismisses health/illness stuff for me, if anything they're inclined to slight overprotection and underestimating my capacity. Then again, there aren't many people a decade or more older than me with some of the conditions I was born with - they simply didn't survive. Older clinicians remember those patients and younger clinicians are better at recognising treatment doesn't always eradicate long term effects and issues.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: BrianI on 26 December, 2016, 10:46:49 am
I think it's probably best if I remain clean shaven, rather than my usual 3-4 day designer "stubble". Had a shave yesterday to make myself presentable for Xmas day.  Big sore patches on my left jaw line, where I seem to regularly pick at the beard hairs, which generally results in them ending up ingrown and infected, which I then dig out with tweezers... Perhaps I have some sort of weird beard trichotillomania?
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Auntie Helen on 26 December, 2016, 11:12:54 am
Pulled a muscle in my buttock. I have a 50km ride planned for Wednesday and a 165km ride on Thursday. I really hope it unfreezes by then.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 26 December, 2016, 11:15:12 am
I think it's probably best if I remain clean shaven, rather than my usual 3-4 day designer "stubble". Had a shave yesterday to make myself presentable for Xmas day.  Big sore patches on my left jaw line, where I seem to regularly pick at the beard hairs, which generally results in them ending up ingrown and infected, which I then dig out with tweezers... Perhaps I have some sort of weird beard trichotillomania?

My brother does this too. Once it gets too long he worries at it.
Title: Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
Post by: De Sisti on 26 December, 2016, 11:24:35 am
.... where I seem to regularly pick at the beard hairs, which generally results in them ending up ingrown and infected, which I then dig out with tweezers...
Use these, and you'll never have ingrown hair problems again:
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Title: Re: The health and fitness thread