Before Christmas, I had cold, with a bad night time cough. No fever or other symptoms. Night time cough is a standard for me and colds, ever since years ago when I tried ignoring a chest infection and pneumonia, so I didn't go for a test. It cleared up. over two weeks later, Mrs Ham started exhibiting similar symptoms, it appeared too long a gap to have been infected from me, but who knows? anyhow, she had a test done. Two, actually. Both negative. My cough started to come back at the start of this week, the cough this time was definitely more of a coughing fit, and unpleasant as ****. So I hied me to a test centre yesterday and had my positive result this morning.
Symptoms are only the cough. No fever, no lack of smell, but that's bad enough.
One had Cudzovirus,I renounce and reject any and all claims to this virus.
and the other one didn't make it to hospital (cardiac arrest, obese, unfit, mid 50s):(
From what I can glean from people on the sharp end one of the serious issues is 'happy hypoxia', whereby people at home feel ok, but their oxygen saturation has dropped to dangerous levels. The advice is....buy a pulse oximeter.
Both MrsC and I have had negative tests.
<snip>Apparently the incidence of colds and flu this winter is well down. The fact we're all avoiding each other to a greater or lesser extent might have something to do with that.
I've not had the briefest sniff of a seasonal cold since this kicked off.
I had a bad cold that had a curious concordance with reported COVID systems back in Feb 2020 too (as did my wife, who had a couple of overseas trips at the beginning of the year), though to be honest, the symptoms are fairly generic for other respiratory viruses and there's usually plenty in circulation at that time of year, so it'll remain a curious coincidence. I've not caught it since as far as I know – come to think of it, I've not had the briefest sniff of a seasonal cold since this kicked off.
<snip>Apparently the incidence of colds and flu this winter is well down. The fact we're all avoiding each other to a greater or lesser extent might have something to do with that.
I've not had the briefest sniff of a seasonal cold since this kicked off.
Exactly, even if not COVID, a D&V bug would be bad news. We have a protocol in place for that reason.
Exactly, even if not COVID, a D&V bug would be bad news. We have a protocol in place for that reason.
Jeez. Surely if you're a carer and you wake up feeling crook, the LAST thing you do is go to work? Isn't this the same for anyone whose job brings them close to folks who may be vulnerable or need to take extra care?
Exactly, even if not COVID, a D&V bug would be bad news. We have a protocol in place for that reason.
Jeez. Surely if you're a carer and you wake up feeling crook, the LAST thing you do is go to work? Isn't this the same for anyone whose job brings them close to folks who may be vulnerable or need to take extra care?
It's for this reason that a proper package of care for those suffering from Covid needs to be instated. Well, not just Covid, any bloody disease. Low-paid workers are still going to go to work if the alternative means they can't buy food.
Exactly, even if not COVID, a D&V bug would be bad news. We have a protocol in place for that reason.
Jeez. Surely if you're a carer and you wake up feeling crook, the LAST thing you do is go to work? Isn't this the same for anyone whose job brings them close to folks who may be vulnerable or need to take extra care?
It's for this reason that a proper package of care for those suffering from Covid needs to be instated. Well, not just Covid, any bloody disease. Low-paid workers are still going to go to work if the alternative means they can't buy food.
You're probably okay. Right nostril means you're a homosexual, obviously.
You're probably okay. Right nostril means you're a homosexual, obviously.
You're probably okay. Right nostril means you're a homosexual, obviously.
Rights tough lefts puff, or is that for ear piercings?
I was 'well crook' early December. Went out for a ride, first thing, didn't feel right, limped home with chronic stomach ache, and had a cup of tea. Started shaking uncontrollably, with chills, went to bed about midday. Skin was prickly and sore, couldn't stop shaking in bed, for may be 3 hours, then Mrs Pig brought me a hot Ribena, and I could feel it working its way through my body. 5 mins later warm as toast, 5 mins later was soaking wet and running with sweat with a v.high temp. I had Chills, fever, nausea,stomach ache, headache, complete exhaustion, lethargy, just slept and sweated. Woke in the night to get a towel to lay on, bed was wet. Next morning , Tues, Mrs Pig took me to a pre booked test, (she had booked at 9am , test was for 1.30pm), did the thing, back home to bed, more of the same. 6.05am Wed PING.....NHS.......NEGATIVE????? :facepalm:they have a 29% false negative rate.
In all I spent almost a week in bed, and found it very difficult to walk up stairs after. Still short of breath now, find I try and avoid hills on my ride.
If it wasn't....you know....that thing, I have no idea what it was. Mrs Pig was fine. I thought swab tests were 100% accurate.
A good friend of mine, living in Belgium, had Coronavirus. 40s,cyclist, fit and regularly training. He regularly got around big Alpine rides .
He’s now awaiting Heart surgery to deal with Coronavirus damage. He’s a medical science professional, and is obviously taking a big interest in “ long Covid” - and reports that there is a growing body of evidence about how widespread and serious this is.
The advice is....buy a pulse oximeter.Being NotAMedicalDoctor I went onto Amazon to do just this. Apparently they are all excellent AND don't work properly at all - if you believe the reviews. Has anyone bought one that actually works?
The advice is....buy a pulse oximeter.Being NotAMedicalDoctor I went onto Amazon to do just this. Apparently they are all excellent AND don't work properly at all - if you believe the reviews. Has anyone bought one that actually works?
Just been invited to book my first vaccine dose. I’m 55, so they seem to be cracking on around here.
Just been invited to book my first vaccine dose. I’m 55, so they seem to be cracking on around here.
This puzzles me - I thought the principle was to "even out" vaccination by moving vaccine supplies to areas that were behind, and thus make those that were ahead (presumably due to local demographics) wait a bit. We're in line with BoJo's prediction - groups 5 & 6 starting this week.
Anyway :thumbsup:
It appears to me that vaccination is a bit of a postcode lottery, or perhaps even a political heartlands lottery.
I understand that, but I'd be amazed if any area were so small that 1000 (Pfize) vaccinations would cover (as it would need to in this case) groups 5,6 and 7 and get to group 8.Probably not untypical for a GP surgery to have say 1100 in group 5 and 6 and 1100 in group 7 and 8.
I was breathless, mild coughs, but a very, very sore throat for a few days.
Just been invited to book my first vaccine dose. I’m 55, so they seem to be cracking on around here.
This puzzles me - I thought the principle was to "even out" vaccination by moving vaccine supplies to areas that were behind, and thus make those that were ahead (presumably due to local demographics) wait a bit. We're in line with BoJo's prediction - groups 5 & 6 starting this week.
Anyway :thumbsup:
They can only do that if the pack (of ~1000 jabs) has been kept at it's storage temp. If it has been kept at a higher temp (as in getting ready to be used) it then can't be moved any great distance. If it has been brought up to fridge temp it has to be used in 5 days, or disposed of. If it is at room temp then it has to be used that day. If the pack has been opened, even if it has been opened at it's storage/transport temp then it can't be transported subsequently.
It's all very confusing and thankfully the Oxford/AZ, J&J plus others are the more easily handled "Keep it at fridge or (normal) freezer temp" variety
Pfizer and Moderna had to be precautionary about everything, their aim was to get the successfully approved in as short a time as possible (hence the timing between doses, if they'd gone for twelve weeks in their trial, they'd still be collating results now).
Pfizer and Moderna had to be precautionary about everything, their aim was to get the successfully approved in as short a time as possible (hence the timing between doses, if they'd gone for twelve weeks in their trial, they'd still be collating results now).
The tome you get handed at a Pfizer session is testament to that. "If you even feel slightly weird... DON'T SUE US!"
It appears to me that vaccination is a bit of a postcode lottery, or perhaps even a political heartlands lottery.
To say that it is an utter mess here would be to downplay it somewhat. There seems to be no real prioritisation going on for who gets an invite.
I expect to get my first jab (age 58) in 2023 at this rate!
* This post may contain traces of sarcasm.
It turns out that there are miles "bodies" arranging vaccinations. 12 of the 14 or 15 ( not quite sure which number is right ) are signed up with and use the vaccination centrenin Rugby, the one 400m from his home. The remaining surgeries are signed up with a different body and they are vaccinating high priority cases themselves but sending everybody else to the cour corners of wherever. Apparently he could go to Coventry or Nuneaton instead but none of these venues thus far offered are accessible by public lic transport.
Then the Practice lied quite blatantly: they said that he could join their list but they have about 15,000 people on it. Rugby has just over 100,000 in the Borough split between the 14 or 15 surgeries. And to date over 30,000 people have been vaccinated with first dose. There is absolutely no way that his GPS practice has 15,000 on their books. I would seriously doubt if any practice in the Borough comes anywhere near to be honest.
Not impressed.
I'll try to keep this brief.
A friend of ours in his sixties who like me has been partially sighted since birth though his sight has not degenerated to legally blind has just received an invite to get his first jab. He doesn't drive and has never driven. He lives about 400m from the local mass vaccination centre where other friends of ours from all around Rugby have received their first jab. He has been invited to travel to Coventry or Milton Keynes.
WTF?
Which wanker has overseen such a ridiculously unfit for purpose pile of shite?
He's trying but without any success at the moment to get this changed. The system doesn't appear to cope with such clearly obvious requests.
I suggested all vaccination centres should have access info, a floor plan + instructions in full text explaining how the system works step by step as well as a video walk through so disabled people (or others who might need it) could look in advance and see whether a centre would work.
I suggested all vaccination centres should have access info, a floor plan + instructions in full text explaining how the system works step by step as well as a video walk through so disabled people (or others who might need it) could look in advance and see whether a centre would work.
I am due my jab on Tuesday & so had a quick google & this is what they have published for the hub in Bradford, quite impressed for a quick basic guide which has given me some idea of what I need to do.
https://www.bdct.nhs.uk/vacc-centre-jacobs-well/
I'll try to keep this brief.
A friend of ours in his sixties who like me has been partially sighted since birth though his sight has not degenerated to legally blind has just received an invite to get his first jab. He doesn't drive and has never driven. He lives about 400m from the local mass vaccination centre where other friends of ours from all around Rugby have received their first jab. He has been invited to travel to Coventry or Milton Keynes.
WTF?
Which wanker has overseen such a ridiculously unfit for purpose pile of shite?
He's trying but without any success at the moment to get this changed. The system doesn't appear to cope with such clearly obvious requests.
I passed a Lateral Flow test this am. I must have been asked at least 5x 'are you showing any symptoms?' Note:- the correct answer is no. It seems like they only want to test people who haven't got Covid.
I passed a Lateral Flow test this am. I must have been asked at least 5x 'are you showing any symptoms?' Note:- the correct answer is no. It seems like they only want to test people who haven't got Covid.
Correct - My understanding is that the LFT tests are mainly being deployed to identify symptomless cases - If you have covid symptoms, then isolate and assume you have covid, or get a PCR test.
The LTF isn't reliable enough to find every case and the concern is that people who get a negative LFT will assume they are definately covid free and relax their safeguarding.
School kids are being asked to get three LFTs before starting school: Monday and Thursday next week then Monday the week after, then that's it for the term. At my son's school at least. Seems odd...My daughter has an LFT on Monday, in-person school starts on Tuesday, there will be another LFT on Thursday and after that she will be expected to do them twice weekly at home. Maybe they have't told you about the "home testing kit" yet?
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So, still no access for him to be vaccinated has been sorted. This is truly shambolic.
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Email gives three specific dates and timeslots. If it is going to be every Monday and Thursday then it makes a bit of sense.I'm working at a school testing centre, and it's just the three tests as they go back, and then home testing.
Haven't been told anything about home testing. I guess he'll find out on Monday. Maybe.Email gives three specific dates and timeslots. If it is going to be every Monday and Thursday then it makes a bit of sense.I'm working at a school testing centre, and it's just the three tests as they go back, and then home testing.
The school I'm at are making arrangements for a significant number of pupils who can't or won't test at home to be tested in school.
The school does not believe that the home test results will be at all reliable and predict another government u-turn on school testing.
(Would you self-report a positive test if you were 15 knowing you'd miss out on seeing your mates, and have to go for a blood test?)
I'll try to keep this brief.
A friend of ours in his sixties who like me has been partially sighted since birth though his sight has not degenerated to legally blind has just received an invite to get his first jab. He doesn't drive and has never driven. He lives about 400m from the local mass vaccination centre where other friends of ours from all around Rugby have received their first jab. He has been invited to travel to Coventry or Milton Keynes.
WTF?
Which wanker has overseen such a ridiculously unfit for purpose pile of shite?
He's trying but without any success at the moment to get this changed. The system doesn't appear to cope with such clearly obvious requests.
Online booking now opened to those aged 56 and over.Not for those of us in Wales yet. Judging from the figures, Wales have a slight difference of emphasis, tilting more towards 2nd doses, which would be fine by me had not my twin (in Harrogate) had hers on Satuday, and my wife (younger than me but with a minor health issue) having been invited for hers this Saturday. Not jealous.
Hmmm, as evidenced by the 12 point lead the Tories have in the polls?
Online booking now opened to those aged 56 and over.Not for those of us in Wales yet. Judging from the figures, Wales have a slight difference of emphasis, tilting more towards 2nd doses, which would be fine by me had not my twin (in Harrogate) had hers on Satuday, and my wife (younger than me but with a minor health issue) having been invited for hers this Saturday. Not jealous.
Technology and system seem to have worked smoothly for him.
Wife booked her jabs last night. First one is 26th March. Both at surgery about 1.3 miles away. Reasonable selection of local options from what I could see. Now just need it to open up to lower 50 age groups so I can book mine. This is Hertfordshire.Local options? Not in Gloucestershire. Nearest I was offered was Bath.
Indeed. I'm going to Bath, and Mrs J is off to Bristol, which is easier, work-wise. Considering this part of Gloucs was top in the country for 80year olds getting jabbed (or something like that), I found that lack of any places in the whole of Gloucestershire to be odd. I didn't want to go to Bromsgrove, or Basingstoke...Wife booked her jabs last night. First one is 26th March. Both at surgery about 1.3 miles away. Reasonable selection of local options from what I could see. Now just need it to open up to lower 50 age groups so I can book mine. This is Hertfordshire.Local options? Not in Gloucestershire. Nearest I was offered was Bath.
Ended up arranging the jab in Reading, which may be further away, but I have work-related reasons for going there.
Indeed. I'm going to Bath, and Mrs J is off to Bristol, which is easier, work-wise. Considering this part of Gloucs was top in the country for 80year olds getting jabbed (or something like that), I found that lack of any places in the whole of Gloucestershire to be odd. I didn't want to go to Bromsgrove, or Basingstoke...Wife booked her jabs last night. First one is 26th March. Both at surgery about 1.3 miles away. Reasonable selection of local options from what I could see. Now just need it to open up to lower 50 age groups so I can book mine. This is Hertfordshire.Local options? Not in Gloucestershire. Nearest I was offered was Bath.
Ended up arranging the jab in Reading, which may be further away, but I have work-related reasons for going there.
That would be Ashton Gate?Indeed. I'm going to Bath, and Mrs J is off to Bristol, which is easier, work-wise. Considering this part of Gloucs was top in the country for 80year olds getting jabbed (or something like that), I found that lack of any places in the whole of Gloucestershire to be odd. I didn't want to go to Bromsgrove, or Basingstoke...Wife booked her jabs last night. First one is 26th March. Both at surgery about 1.3 miles away. Reasonable selection of local options from what I could see. Now just need it to open up to lower 50 age groups so I can book mine. This is Hertfordshire.Local options? Not in Gloucestershire. Nearest I was offered was Bath.
Ended up arranging the jab in Reading, which may be further away, but I have work-related reasons for going there.
Up thread I mention being booked in for my vaccine jab next Wed. Today I got a text from the NHS vaccine booking service telling me that because of an underlying health condition I can book a free covid jab. Really, that's an unknown underlying health condition. I would like to phone and see what this health condition is but I doubt they would tell me over the phone. I wonder if this is because I booked on 119 and not the GP's system although they are now asking me to book on 119. Confused.
Mrs B & I both got the first dose early for our ages.Indeed. I'm going to Bath, and Mrs J is off to Bristol, which is easier, work-wise. Considering this part of Gloucs was top in the country for 80year olds getting jabbed (or something like that), I found that lack of any places in the whole of Gloucestershire to be odd. I didn't want to go to Bromsgrove, or Basingstoke...Wife booked her jabs last night. First one is 26th March. Both at surgery about 1.3 miles away. Reasonable selection of local options from what I could see. Now just need it to open up to lower 50 age groups so I can book mine. This is Hertfordshire.Local options? Not in Gloucestershire. Nearest I was offered was Bath.
Ended up arranging the jab in Reading, which may be further away, but I have work-related reasons for going there.
AIUI there are two systems operating in parallel. A national system and a local system. I phoned up my GP and was offered a nursing home 6 minutes away, or my GP surgery also 6 minutes away. I'm guessing I got in on the local system ;)
National system is operating the mass vaccination centres that are quite distant. Here, the local system seems to be ahead of the national system.
If you are vaccinated under the National system it takes 2-3 days for records to be updated at your local GP.
You have to have your 2nd dose done by the same provider.
WHO, EMA, German national medical authorities etc. all say there's no evidence of a link with the vaccine.Sorry, this probably isn't what you want to hear ... she should prepare for a worse reaction with jab 2.
I would prefer to hear it straight. Thank you for being honest.
Having just read the news about AstraZeneca, blood clots, one dead in Italy and other countries stopping using the AstraZeneca vaccine I have a clue what might have increased the fear.
Mr Spiegelhalter has something to say about the blood clot thing. (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/15/evidence-oxford-vaccine-blood-clots-data-causal-links)
He more cleverly what I said elsewhere (his recent book The Art of Statistics is very good and, fortunately for me, mostly free of maths).
He more cleverly what I said elsewhere (his recent book The Art of Statistics is very good and, fortunately for me, mostly free of maths).
The human brain is an amazing thing. You missed a word out there - but it doesn't matter because my brain just inserts it automagically when I read it.
He more cleverly what I said elsewhere (his recent book The Art of Statistics is very good and, fortunately for me, mostly free of maths).
The human brain is an amazing thing. You missed a word out there - but it doesn't matter because my brain just inserts it automagically when I read it.
I do that all the time, thinking I've typed something, but my brain has moved on. It's my bane. I also mentally fill in the missing word when I read it. The only way I can get around it is to have my computer read things back to me, whereupon the omission becomes obvious.
Makes sense, reading aloud is boring and tedious and generally gets between you and a good book.
He more cleverly what I said elsewhere (his recent book The Art of Statistics is very good and, fortunately for me, mostly free of maths).
The human brain is an amazing thing. You missed a word out there - but it doesn't matter because my brain just inserts it automagically when I read it.
I do that all the time, thinking I've typed something, but my brain has moved on. It's my bane. I also mentally fill in the missing word when I read it. The only way I can get around it is to have my computer read things back to me, whereupon the omission becomes obvious.
Me too.He more cleverly what I said elsewhere (his recent book The Art of Statistics is very good and, fortunately for me, mostly free of maths).
The human brain is an amazing thing. You missed a word out there - but it doesn't matter because my brain just inserts it automagically when I read it.
I have to switch into a different mode when proofreading.
Dunno, but she's really smart and is called Serena (I think my work computer is Kate). I did dabble with Victoria for a while, but she's a bit stern and makes every sentence sound like she's passing judgement. Really, this is what you are going with? Don't quit the day job.
Dunno, but she's really smart and is called Serena (I think my work computer is Kate). I did dabble with Victoria for a while, but she's a bit stern and makes every sentence sound like she's passing judgement. Really, this is what you are going with? Don't quit the day job.
Isn't that along the lines of the nice lady inside your satnav being called Sonja, because she get sonja nerves?
Dunno, but she's really smart and is called Serena (I think my work computer is Kate). I did dabble with Victoria for a while, but she's a bit stern and makes every sentence sound like she's passing judgement. Really, this is what you are going with? Don't quit the day job.
Isn't that along the lines of the nice lady inside your satnav being called Sonja, because she get sonja nerves?
Wasn't that quip made about the announcer on the Jubilee Line, some while back?
I was jabbed weds night. Sweat in night, muscle aches next day. Rode on Friday no problem felt fine. Did 65 Mike's yesterday and felt sick after 50. Still feel fucked today.
Obviously rather have this than actual covid.
I was jabbed weds night. Sweat in night, muscle aches next day. Rode on Friday no problem felt fine. Did 65 miles yesterday and felt sick after 50. Still feel fucked today.
Obviously rather have this than actual covid.
My sat nav in car is called Thelma.Currently have Kathy Clugston as my sat nav voice, but would equally settle for Caroline Wyatt
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IANAD, but I don't think that there is a correlation between the response to the virus and response to the vaccine. It seems that older people have much less reaction to the vaccine when compared to younger people - that's the inverse correlation to who the virus affects.
Absolutely. It seems that older people have more of an immune response to the vaccine, even if they get fewer/lesser side effects.IANAD, but I don't think that there is a correlation between the response to the virus and response to the vaccine. It seems that older people have much less reaction to the vaccine when compared to younger people - that's the inverse correlation to who the virus affects.
What we shouldn’t correlate is fewer or no side effects meaning someone is less protected from the virus a vaccine was developed for.
Thanks. I was first in line this morning and other than feeling both tired and hungry for most of the day I feel fine. :thumbsup:
Mine was done directly opposite the zoo. As far as I'm aware they don't have bats, pangolins or mink.
Probably best to avoid the café.
Just in case.
Phoned up pharmacy where I've booked second jab.
They say they DO have wheelchair access, which is not what's on the NHS website about the pharmacy and partner says it would be awkward. Will go aheadand RANT if there are problems...
Phoned up pharmacy where I've booked second jab.and if you can, complain in writing.
They say they DO have wheelchair access, which is not what's on the NHS website about the pharmacy and partner says it would be awkward. Will go aheadand RANT if there are problems...
A friend PAs for a wheelchair user, the vacc centre had gravel and a step in, wheelchair user managed but if the weather was wet it wouldn't be possible. This needs to be something that centres GET RIGHT in terms of info provision.
Phoned up pharmacy where I've booked second jab.
They say they DO have wheelchair access, which is not what's on the NHS website about the pharmacy and partner says it would be awkward. Will go aheadand RANT if there are problems...
and if you can, complain in writing.
A friend PAs for a wheelchair user, the vacc centre had gravel and a step in, wheelchair user managed but if the weather was wet it wouldn't be possible. This needs to be something that centres GET RIGHT in terms of info provision.
My daughter is self testing using kits provided by the school. Filling in the form saying negative takes ages, and you have to provide all the information every time (and it won't let me copy/paste emails/phone numbers in my phone), but today it allowed me to get to the end of the process and then just said it failed and I should try again later! It says that the website is Alpha, so I understand that it's not necessarily finished, but this is kinda important.
When we got jabbed they were also asking for NHS numbers. If they want that info at the time then bloody well put it on the confirmation email / text. Not joined up.Leaving the encoding of the microchip that close to injection is yet another illustration of poor organisation and it beggars belief that they became our overlords in the first place.
NHS Test and Trace has identified you as a contact of someone who recently tested positive for COVID-19. You must now stay at home and self-isolate for 10 days from the date of your last contact with them, unless you are exempt.It gives no clues as to where, when or who, so how she's supposed to date it properly is anybody's guess
You should now visit your NHS Test and Trace account to give us more details, even if you think you may be exempt. This helps us to advise you on what you need to do as a contact.
NHS Test and Trace has identified you as a contact of someone who recently tested positive for COVID-19.Test booked. (She didn't declare as exempt for anything)
You do not have to self-isolate. However, you should book a PCR test, even if you do not have symptoms.
This doesn't seem to fit with the normally reported course of booster side effects, but I'm not stressing over it. I'm guessing it was my immune system working weekend overtime.
pfoostered
Got pfoostered this morning.
Interestingly, although the rubbishment are saying that boosters can be had after 3 months the reality on the ground here is dose shortage so unless you are a week or less from the 182 day qualification you get turned away as a walk up*. All the booked victims were 182 days or greater that I spoke to.
My 182 days was up on Wednesday so I got a dose!
* Yes, we have a walk up farcility. I have had all three jabs on walk up.
Got pfoostered this morning.What documentation of previous two vaccinations are they taking at the walk-in centres, if they're even checking?
Interestingly, although the rubbishment are saying that boosters can be had after 3 months the reality on the ground here is dose shortage so unless you are a week or less from the 182 day qualification you get turned away as a walk up*. All the booked victims were 182 days or greater that I spoke to.
My 182 days was up on Wednesday so I got a dose!
* Yes, we have a walk up farcility. I have had all three jabs on walk up.
2 AZ shots for the main vaccination, arm felt sore afterwards but that was it
had moderna for the booster at 4pm on Monday*
arm felt a bit sore, went to bed
woke up the next day feeling about 300 years old - everything achey, nausea, headache, aching eyeballs etc.
1/2 better on Weds
3/4 better on Thurs
still getting the occasional funny turn ever since
*pretty efficient - as pre-booked I went in etc, they were using walk-ins to fill the slots, done at local-ish pharmacy.
the main vaccinations were at an equally efficient vaccination centre
I'm beginning to worry. No negative reactions to either AZ or the moderna booster. Or the 'flu jab. Am I the only one? Reading here, it would seem so. Did they actually work for me?
I heard that a colleague who has been off for a few weeks that had covid in the summer has been told he's not been poorly long enough for it to be long covid (?) and they've done loads of tests on his heart & lungs and found nothing.Does that mean he's in the shit with HR?
Just been for a PCR test, because I've got a sore throat and a headache and blocked crustacean tubes, and need to not go anywhere near the orthopaedic hospital if it's COVID. :-\
I'm beginning to worry. No negative reactions to either AZ or the moderna booster. Or the 'flu jab. Am I the only one? Reading here, it would seem so. Did they actually work for me?
Tizer ? I thought they pumped you full of Irn Bru up there.
I'm beginning to worry. No negative reactions to either AZ or the moderna booster. Or the 'flu jab. Am I the only one? Reading here, it would seem so. Did they actually work for me?
My cleaning lady had a positive LFT today.
Her unvaxed son now has a sore throat.
I've told her to stay away next week.
I'll make sure the family gets fed.
Long covid sucks (I think I've said that already).There does seem to be a nasty cold around. My wife got it over Christmas and is just about clear. Got it from following a teacher at the lectern and using a microphone without a mask. Teacher came to the service stating she had a bad cold but not COVID.
As with ME/CFS, any viral infection seems to trigger a resurgence.
Both MrsC and I caught a nasty cold over Christmas (negative LFD and PCR). I got better, she didn't, symptoms drifted to matching long covid (sense of smell gone, exhaustion, persistent cough, joint pain).
She still had some medication in date from previous bought so started taking that; decent improvement within 24hrs.
The somewhat helpful treatment seems to be a steroidal inhaler and antihistamines.
I am writing as a confirmed hypochondriac - but there again, aren’t most cyclists?
I am writing as a confirmed hypochondriac - but there again, aren’t most cyclists?
That would be a new one on me, most definitely not a hypochondriac
I am writing as a confirmed hypochondriac - but there again, aren’t most cyclists?
That would be a new one on me, most definitely not a hypochondriac
I don’t think I’ve ever got changed in a cycle race changing room without a game of health top trumps going on.
I am writing as a confirmed hypochondriac - but there again, aren’t most cyclists?
For the past few months my body has been misbehaving. I’ve been feeling very tired and lethargic. I’ve been cycling inside on a Wattbike, but outside seems incredibly hard, and leaves me wasted for several days. I have muscle aches, and I can document a reduction in cycling power. I have breathing difficulties.
Weirdly, I’ve developed new allergies. My hands have a sore rash, and peeling skin. I’ve never been Coeliac, but now, after trying to track down digestive issues, it seems I am. ( for context, there is an autoimmune issue in the family genetics)
A lot seems to chime with “ long Covid”, but I haven’t been diagnosed with Covid, or tested positive. Before we’d even heard of Covid, my daughter, who was travelling regularly to “ real” China ( not the tourist spots), had a fluey sort of illness. Generally, since Covid became a “ thing” we’ve all been avoiding people, even close relatives.
Maybe I’m imagining it, maybe I’m looking for an excuse for poor performance.
I’m 71, with osteoarthritis ( prescribed pain killers used to be able to cycle), again, for context.
I am writing as a confirmed hypochondriac - but there again, aren’t most cyclists?
That would be a new one on me, most definitely not a hypochondriac
I don’t think I’ve ever got changed in a cycle race changing room without a game of health top trumps going on.
Very wise!I am writing as a confirmed hypochondriac - but there again, aren’t most cyclists?
That would be a new one on me, most definitely not a hypochondriac
I don’t think I’ve ever got changed in a cycle race changing room without a game of health top trumps going on.
I suspect most cyclists do not use cycle race changing rooms.
My wife had a cold over new year with 7 negative LFTs, no cough, no loss of sense of smell. Now she is still below normal, her asthma has flared up and she is now off work.Similar to my story - I too suspect a low level case of Omicron.
I suspect in retrospect she had a low viral load case of Omicron.
Yesterday I got her to do a 30 min gentle online pilates class and she had to sit down for 30 minutes afterwards. She is used to doing 60+minutes of much more strenuous classes normally. She is not even arguing about taking a second week on light dutiesMy wife had a cold over new year with 7 negative LFTs, no cough, no loss of sense of smell. Now she is still below normal, her asthma has flared up and she is now off work.Similar to my story - I too suspect a low level case of Omicron.
I suspect in retrospect she had a low viral load case of Omicron.
Multiple negative LFTs, streaming cold, itchy throat, no cough, no headache, no loss of smell. Now I have recurrent diorhhea and altered sleep.
On the subject of vitamin D, what is the current consensus about whether or not most people are deficient?
This paper (https://www.sciencealert.com/the-largest-ever-clinical-study-on-vitamin-d-shows-we-re-wrong-about-its-benefits) suggests it may be over hyped but I don't know enough to know if it's fake news or what, credibility ratings suggest the site is OK but in that case why isn't it being shared more that we needn't generally worry?.
The LFTs we have now are tonsil ones :sick:
Yesterday a nurse told me how to stop the gag reflex. Apparently you tuck your thumb in and enclose it with your fingers making a fist. That was fine when she took the swab, but I can foresee difficulties with a diy test and only one hand available…
On the subject of the progression of the infection, I had to have a PCR yesterday for a procedure on Monday. I have to isolate until then. But what happens if I got infected an hour before the PCR?
Looks like I'll be getting IV monoclonal antibody & will have a short hospital trip…
ETA Chelsea & Westminster 11am tomorrow.
Should be back in the afternoon...
A few people I follow on Twitter recently have been advocating doing a high pitched 'laa' when swabbing to suppress the gag reflex.
The LFTs we have now are tonsil ones :sick:I didn't know there were any that were non-tonsil.
I feel a lucky fraud...Luck doesn't require fraud.
The LFTs we have now are tonsil ones :sick:I didn't know there were any that were non-tonsil.
Good to hear Helly.
Helly, contact your GP and make sure you're definitely on the antivirals list and that the referral will come through cos the automagic isn't reliable.
I know two at-risk people who weren't on the list and their GP didn't know and NHS111 didn't contact them... One with recent blood cancer is quite unwell so I'm really fucking cross cos they're too exhausted to fight.
Sorry you got Covided. Hope you both escape as mildly ill as possible!
The LFTs we have now are tonsil ones :sick:
Yesterday a nurse told me how to stop the gag reflex. Apparently you tuck your thumb in and enclose it with your fingers making a fist. That was fine when she took the swab, but I can foresee difficulties with a diy test and only one hand available…
On the subject of the progression of the infection, I had to have a PCR yesterday for a procedure on Monday. I have to isolate until then. But what happens if I got infected an hour before the PCR?
Some hospitals run a second PCR when you arrive with rapid results.
My hospital asked us to "be more careful" for the 2 weeks pre op, then PCR + complete isolation to reduce that but it was pre-Omicon.
Ta muchly barakta!
I have been snottier today; not ill, just consuming more tissues.
SpO2 99% at midnight, HR 60.
I've also been coughing a bit more but still go hours without any cough.
Throat's better.
Voice somewhat deep & hoarse.
Now tell me, how the hell could anyone tell this collection of unremarkable woes from a Mk 1 bog-standard common cold, without some form of test?
I know I could not!
I have treated loads of folk with colds.
I have had colds and mycoplasma pneumonia.
There is no way!
Thanks all!You may not be ill but even so, we won't be attending any parties at your house this week!
I'm coughing and snotting less but decided to get out of bed when I had a coughing bout lying flat. I thought getting up and making a drink would settle things.
I got up & made the drink but stopped coughing before I sipped anything.
I am NOT ill!
SpO2 99%, HR 59 at 15.00.
We are repelling ALL boarders.
It's the LAW.
D posted a letter at 3am today.
I pointed out this was probably not strictly legal.
I'm not hosting any parties…
Won't go near other humans until we have two negative LFTs at 24 hour intervals, however long that takes.
Unsolicited doorstep callers come at their own risk.
Delivery drivers from JustEat and Sainsbury's are forewarned.
As he croaked through the meeting I had with him yesterday I was distracted from his talking-bollox by the constant loop thought 'what the fuck are you doing in the office that couldn't be done from home'.
I really wish this wasn't true, but it is.As he croaked through the meeting I had with him yesterday I was distracted from his talking-bollox by the constant loop thought 'what the fuck are you doing in the office that couldn't be done from home'.
Talking bollocks, obviously. It's not the same without a live audience, you know...
I really wish this wasn't true, but it is.As he croaked through the meeting I had with him yesterday I was distracted from his talking-bollox by the constant loop thought 'what the fuck are you doing in the office that couldn't be done from home'.
Talking bollocks, obviously. It's not the same without a live audience, you know...
If that tossbucket has infected me in readiness for my holiday I will be Very Cross Indeed.
Positive LFT. I'd not realised that you weren't supposed to pee on it.
He's fine. He's imagining it ;)
Consider me Very Cross Indeed. Or at least I would be, if I didn't feel quite so poorly.I really wish this wasn't true, but it is.As he croaked through the meeting I had with him yesterday I was distracted from his talking-bollox by the constant loop thought 'what the fuck are you doing in the office that couldn't be done from home'.
Talking bollocks, obviously. It's not the same without a live audience, you know...
If that tossbucket has infected me in readiness for my holiday I will be Very Cross Indeed.
She's in touch with all her pals from the gym and U3A, all retired ladies, all vaccinated three times, and some four times, and all being very conscientious about mask wearing. They have all had, or got, Covid, mostly within the last three weeks.
So what's going on here?
Are we arguing that the vaccinations are reducing the severity such that without being vaccinatede these people would be hospitalised or dead?
Are we able to conclude that mask wearing makes so little difference as to be pointless?
Are there age-related factors in all this?
It just seems very odd that a whole cohort should have/had the disease.
I have neither heard nor seen anything to suggest reduced bone healing as a direct result. Anything which prevents mobilisation will reduce bone healing.
“Whenever I am tasked to quarantine and the airport areas, I am always making sure that I and my other colleagues follow standard operation procedures,” said police constable Hililogo Tepou.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/15/freedom-and-fear-life-in-one-of-the-few-countries-that-covid-hasnt-touched
She believes there is always a chance the virus could arrive via planes and cargo vessels but not if frontliners take precaution measures seriously.
“In the meantime, apart from duties at the job, I cruise around the island, drinking and partying with friends and just do what I love doing. I believe Tuvalu is so lucky to be free from the virus and we should be grateful always for this,” she said.
Well it appears that a bout of COVID has knocked out my sisters Tyhroid. Whether there was a pre existing under activity is uncerain but for the last 6 weeks, since having covid, it has failed and she is likely to be on hormone replacements for the rest of her life.
Unexpected positive lateral flow result this evening. I guess it had to happen eventually. No real symptoms as yet. I feel a little bit below par energy wise but had put that down to it being a very long week this week with a couple of early starts and late finishes on the bounce. I was looking forward to riding 140km tomorrow, though now I won’t actually be leaving enforced isolation in the bedroom for a few days.
Unexpected positive lateral flow result this evening. I guess it had to happen eventually. No real symptoms as yet. I feel a little bit below par energy wise but had put that down to it being a very long week this week with a couple of early starts and late finishes on the bounce. I was looking forward to riding 140km tomorrow, though now I won’t actually be leaving enforced isolation in the bedroom for a few days.
Do you not feel up to riding? If cycling on your own you won’t pose a risk to others.
My strong advice is to avoid ALL exercise for the next fortnight.
Quelle surprise!Thank you & not sure, it's something that needs investigating (she did have a 4th vaccination, so maybe)
Get well soon!
Is Mrs M eligible for antivirals?
May be worth phoning 119 and seeing what they say.I'll get her to do that when she starts feeling unwell / tests positive - to date she has not shown any symptoms.
I have symptoms but last night tested negative. Temperature 1.2°C higher than normal. Oxygen levels 97%, pulse around 60. Feel pretty shite, but still mostly functional - sore throat, fluey creeping flesh, cough, a bit of a headache, a bit snotty.
I have symptoms but last night tested negative. Temperature 1.2°C higher than normal. Oxygen levels 97%, pulse around 60. Feel pretty shite, but still mostly functional - sore throat, fluey creeping flesh, cough, a bit of a headache, a bit snotty.
So, a cold then? :demon:
I've just discovered that if you already have 2 packs of paracetamol in your order, Waitrose won't let you order ibuprofen. Since Jan is asthmatic, ibuprofen doesn't agree with her.
Not just Waitrose. Two packs of any pain killers is your lot (unless you go to a pharmacy).
Not just Waitrose. Two packs of any pain killers is your lot (unless you go to a pharmacy).
Poundland & ALDI don't seemed too bothered about bulk purchasing . . . . - and very cheap too compared to, say, Boots
I have a couple of unopened packs bb date Aug 2021. I had a couple of those on the basis that there's probably nothing wrong with them.
CVS ibuprofen is about $20 for 1000.
People have lost much of their routine immunity so colds etc. are likely to be worse. I had a skanky one a few months back (far worse than the covid that proceeded it).
According to my 18th last LFD, I am getting hit badly by hayfever.
Eyes a mess, throat tickly, nose feeling like it's gunking up.
Grass pollen quite high...
Tested positive on March 23rd, positive LFT and PCR tests. Heavy cold symptoms for ten days or so, followed by a dreadful exacerbation of asthma requiring a course of steroids. Been off work since then, completely debilitated, starting a long Covid work up next week. Fully vaccinated. FFS.
The current variant is incredibly contagious. I think possibly much more than the original virus.
Sorry to hear you are suffering with long covid, Ruthie, it is a real sod. MrsC has never fully recovered and any viral infection sets her back to square one.
I'm now testing negative, and starting to recover. Did some gardening last night, that was tiring at the time, and I'm still tired from it this morning. Muscles weak, almost like they have severely atrophied in the two weeks of covid.
Both elderly parents feeling quite unwell. No respiratory symptoms, but upset digestions, tiredness, aches & general malaise. I sent them a video showing how to do a swab test earlier & they've still not bothered.
Both elderly parents feeling quite unwell. No respiratory symptoms, but upset digestions, tiredness, aches & general malaise. I sent them a video showing how to do a swab test earlier & they've still not bothered.I saw my parents on Tuesday when they were feeling slightly unwell. No big change in their condition, but I've since developed a scratchy throat with occasional cough & my nose is running a bit. Quite tired this morning & I've just got a very faint positive line on a lateral flow test. :(
The Bus, Mini and frog have all gone, I can talk again!
Managed a walk in the wee hours that was rather slow, then shat a brick when I realised there's a late night shift change at kettle but thankfully I hadn't overlapped with that and saw no one.
Still coughing but seem to be moving around OK today but not moved far, also not stressed brane much beyond getting out of bed and showering yet, but...
and I've got a tesco delivery to navigate... Urgh.
Given the solidity of yesterday's Red line there's probably not much point testing again today in the hope it's gone...
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At some point when I still had a sore throat I went mad and took Amazons offer of a week of prime for a quid, despite it still being possible to add to my TEsco order of 4 big bars of dary milk I ordered a 10 pack of Milka and 3 pack of lindt.
Even now I still have a lot of chocolate in my fridge.
Quite a few people dropping like flies (only some from covid, other plagues are available) after a series of meeting aboard the mothership last week.
To tempt fate, I'm boarding the London mothership tomorrow for a department lunch.
I have been siesta-ing spectacularly since contracting the lurgy. I'm still coughing and snotting a bit, but I think that is to be expected. But I've just had about 2 hours' zzzing in a chair, woken up when my Dear Wife brought me a cup of tea.Last night was the first I did not have a post tea snooze
Yesterday I finally went to the corner shop and bought a couple of new tyres for the solo. Today I got the bike down off the wall and turned it upside down and looked at it.
That's about as much as I could face... guess I'm commuting on the stokerless tandem with the slightly worrying wibbly not quite-true front wheel again. I would quite like to be able to face doing more than the bare minimum to get through days.
I suspect that it may have wiped out my chances of doing LEL.
Wash your hands but don't wear gloves.
inappropriate / plain unhygienic glove-wearing.
inappropriate / plain unhygienic glove-wearing.
Speaking of which, I happened to pass a couple of minimum-wage catering workers on a smoking break at the back of $popular_coffee_emporium the other day. They were holding their cigarettes in their nitrile gloves. :facepalm: :sick:
inappropriate / plain unhygienic glove-wearing.
Speaking of which, I happened to pass a couple of minimum-wage catering workers on a smoking break at the back of $popular_coffee_emporium the other day. They were holding their cigarettes in their nitrile gloves. :facepalm: :sick:
I spent yesterday in tears, but at least I had the company of a good friend who doesn’t mind a bit of snot. Woke up with enough motivation to order some vitamins and do some mindfulness work. Apparently I walked over 3000 steps yesterday, the most for about a fortnight. Bloods from the long Covid clinic came back: 100% normal, which is good in most ways, but doesn’t give the easy answer I was hoping for.
Do we have to test it no symptoms?
Spent the afternoon asleep, cut up some chicken and salad for my wife and I then collapsed again.
I have written off this summers long distance cycling.
Spent the afternoon asleep, cut up some chicken and salad for my wife and I then collapsed again.
I have written off this summers long distance cycling.
My lymphocyte count is low, but is within the range it has been for years.
Low lymphocyte counts are associated with poor Covid outcome, though I've been fine so far.
I had (mild) Covid at the end of January and was treated with monoclonal antibody.
My neutrophils are somewhat low (not within the 'dangerous' range) now.
This is new.
I don't know if this is Covid-related, a temporary non-specific glitch, or connected with medication I have taken, though I'm now only on the Rebif I've had since 1999.
I'll get a repeat in May and discuss with my neurologist at my appointment at the end of May.
Spent the afternoon asleep, cut up some chicken and salad for my wife and I then collapsed again.
I have written off this summers long distance cycling.
There are ongoing studies looking into couples where one had Covid-19 and the other didn’t
I realise that is not really pertinent to your post about wide variation in ability to deal with the virus. But it’s surprising how transmission sometimes doesn’t occur when you would think it is bound to.
My sister has Teh Plague for the nth time.
I just hope she hasn't passed it on to Aged Parents, whom she and I visited on Wednesday.
My brother has Teh Plague for the first time.
I'm hoping to escape reinfection but...
There are ongoing studies looking into couples where one had Covid-19 and the other didn’t, not even detectable levels of the virus in their system, despite spending long periods together and sharing a bed. There are those, who despite not previously catching Covid-19, appear to be immune, can clear the virus faster than it can replicate. The examples the studies are looking at stretch back to pre vaccines.We seem to be like that. One theory is that the "immune" partner has had other coronaviruses previously - the ones that cause nasty colds.
If there is one thing the pandemic has taught it’s that the immune response to the virus various widely.
My sister has Teh Plague for the nth time.
I just hope she hasn't passed it on to Aged Parents, whom she and I visited on Wednesday.
My brother has Teh Plague for the first time.
I'm hoping to escape reinfection but...
Mum (86, robust) is positive now.
She's moved into spare bedroom in hope of sparing Dad (91, extremely frail).
Oh dear!
There are ongoing studies looking into couples where one had Covid-19 and the other didn’t, not even detectable levels of the virus in their system, despite spending long periods together and sharing a bed. There are those, who despite not previously catching Covid-19, appear to be immune, can clear the virus faster than it can replicate. The examples the studies are looking at stretch back to pre vaccines.We seem to be like that. One theory is that the "immune" partner has had other coronaviruses previously - the ones that cause nasty colds.
If there is one thing the pandemic has taught it’s that the immune response to the virus various widely.
I have had three NHS Covid pings from my weekend activities.You seem to be in high spirits.
Given that I was outdoors all the time (except when in my tent, or in the loo - solitary activities) I’m not as exorcised as I was when I was first pinged, all those years ago…
I have had three NHS Covid pings from my weekend activities.You seem to be in high spirits.
Given that I was outdoors all the time (except when in my tent, or in the loo - solitary activities) I’m not as exorcised as I was when I was first pinged, all those years ago…
I had my latest Covid booster jab last Sunday. :thumbsup: I would encourage folks to take it if offered.
I had my latest Covid booster jab last Sunday. :thumbsup: I would encourage folks to take it if offered.
I had mine yesterday. It's a right bastard, and I've been shivering in bed apart form when I forced myself up to deal with the gas man.
I suppose that means it's working...
I had an email inviting me to book a booster early yesterday.
Booked a booster for Saturday (D's away) online around 11.30am & received confirmation text.
2 hours later get SMS text inviting me to book a booster.
Joined up?
Not...
I had my latest Covid booster jab last Sunday. :thumbsup: I would encourage folks to take it if offered.
I had mine yesterday. It's a right bastard, and I've been shivering in bed apart form when I forced myself up to deal with the gas man.
I suppose that means it's working...
I had mine yesterday. It's a right bastard, and I've been shivering in bedHope you are feeling better Kim.
I enquired about mine today and was told that I was not on the at risk list. Both the receptionist and and I thought that the government said that all 65 to 50 year olds would be offered the autumn jab . I wasn't offered a jab in the spring either 😕
It is anyone over 50 or vulnerable. The online booking is only over 65 at mo, my invite was direct from GP. You could also try the walk in centres for Covid.
It is anyone over 50 or vulnerable. The online booking is only over 65 at mo, my invite was direct from GP. You could also try the walk in centres for Covid.
My invite was from NHS not GP.
I am 64 and vulnerable.
Are they doing autumn boosters (ie. 4th dose) for walk-ins? I thought they were just for people who haven't already had all of the original (usually three) doses.
Fourth? Usual three? This must be the last year in which anyone other than refuseniks will have any idea how many shots they've had. Which I suppose means next year we'll have to pay for them (and probably for other vaccines too).
Now down to 'sore arm and a bit tired'. My ability to regulate body temperature seems to have sorted itself out, so I've had a shower and feel *much* better.
Shouldn't, there's probably 6 Systems involved that don't speak to each other.I had an email inviting me to book a booster early yesterday.
Booked a booster for Saturday (D's away) online around 11.30am & received confirmation text.
2 hours later get SMS text inviting me to book a booster.
Joined up?
Not...
No, surprsingly. I booked because I could, then 2 day later got an SMS inviting me to book. Maybe GDPR stops the sharing of linked names and NHS numbers, who knows. But better 2 invites than none.
D had a booster as a 'walk-in' when he took me for my boost yesterday.
No sign of it on the NHS app last night.
I hope it filters through the system in the next few days...
I really don't see anyone who turns up being turned away. My wife commented that the throughput was a lot faster this time around, with no compulsory supervised 15 minute sit-down afterwards.
Now down to 'sore arm and a bit tired'. My ability to regulate body temperature seems to have sorted itself out, so I've had a shower and feel *much* better.
Slept for about 12 hours. Again. And I'm still knackered. And my sodding arm still hurts (sorest arm from a vaccination ever[1]). It's actually hot around the injection site, rather than just bruising.
Normal amount of sleep and a small, but easily ignorable amount of arm ache today. 6 days!Now down to 'sore arm and a bit tired'. My ability to regulate body temperature seems to have sorted itself out, so I've had a shower and feel *much* better.Slept for about 12 hours. Again. And I'm still knackered. And my sodding arm still hurts (sorest arm from a vaccination ever[1]). It's actually hot around the injection site, rather than just bruising.
Just in time for the flu jab tomorrow.
a quick call to your GP practiceWe have to wait at least 30 minutes to get a to speak to anyone!
Maybe it targets woke Netflix subscribers, and avocados are the primary vector.Only when smashed.
The local autumn booster is today at the district school. Unusually, this time, there is no booking system. It's just walk up between 07.00 to 15.00.
I went up at 10.30 thinking that the original rush would be over.
OMG the queueue was massive. Several people deep and almost as long as the queen thing. I didn't get out of car and came straight home.
I'll try again at 1.
I'm of the opinion that if an intramuscular injection needs a plaster, they're probably doing it wrong. (Psychological benefits of funky plasters for unhappy children excepted.)
I'm of the opinion that if an intramuscular injection needs a plaster, they're probably doing it wrong. (Psychological benefits of funky plasters for unhappy children excepted.)
A friend who volunteers at a jab centre told me that a 'special case' ie, for jumping the Q, is anybody who has ever spent a night in hospital.
Kangaroocourt, I hope you are able to keep resting, resting, resting. What little I know about long covid in general is that the longer you rest and very carefully re-cuperate the better.thnx baratka I’m wrapping myself in virtual cotton wool and eating my bodyweight in cakes every day😊
Hope you can get some good advice from ME/CFS experts and keep resting and listening to your body very carefully indeed. Keeping fingers crossed for you, I know how scary it is to worry about disabling conditions worsening.
I had sore arms both sides and not a lot else obvious.
Myself & mrsao both have COVID this week, for first time. Probably caught it in a pub, last week. Feels like bad cold + cough. Also this week, received notifcation we can go for next booster.
Myself & mrsao both have COVID this week, for first time. Probably caught it in a pub, last week. Feels like bad cold + cough. Also this week, received notifcation we can go for next booster.
I think you are supposed to wait 12 weeks from covid infection to vaccination...
Myself & mrsao both have COVID this week, for first time. Probably caught it in a pub, last week. Feels like bad cold + cough. Also this week, received notifcation we can go for next booster.
I think you are supposed to wait 12 weeks from covid infection to vaccination...
I flew to Tangier for work Sunday evening, hours after getting jabbed. Thursday I started feeling a tickle in the throat. Friday was spent in bed with the lights off. Saturday was outdoors only but feeling a bit fragile. Sunday mostly in bed and occasionally coughing green goo. No way to check for C19 here, possibly I have just caught a random cold or flu. Usually I bounce back from those things pretty quick. When I had C19, I was wiped for most of a week.
Back to flu jabs: at the weekend I met a woman whose child was born microcephalic as a result of her catching flu while pregnant. This means he's in a (specialised) wheelchair non-stop for the whole of his life, no speech, no communication beyond smiles, gurgles and crying. Except actually flu jabs wouldn't have prevented this, as he was born about 1980, so before flu vaccinations were available, and women of childbearing age are not generally offered them. Perhaps we're jabbing the wrong (or not enough) people?
- people who receive a carer's allowance, or are the main carer for an older or disabled person who may be at risk if you get sick
GPs also have discretion to add individuals to the vaccination lists, either of their own volition or by request.
Before I forget – because it seems CBMDC did – a few of the pelican crossings in Bradford still have signs telling you not to press the button, due to covid.No doubt a guerrilla action by the Association of British Drivers
How do you find one of these fabled jabs – there's nothing within 8 miles of us, Bromley or Horley basically. There used to a be a walk-in at Centrale in Croydon but it seems to be gone at the moment. None are especially practical.
How do you find one of these fabled jabs – there's nothing within 8 miles of us, Bromley or Horley basically. There used to a be a walk-in at Centrale in Croydon but it seems to be gone at the moment. None are especially practical.
Via NHS Inform website in Scotland. Dunno about darn sarf.
Spoilers ??
Phew. :thumbsup:Spoilers ??
Sorted!
Double jabbed Sat morn
One shoulder quite sore by eve and felt exhausted.
Spent sunday absolutely wiped out, useless for anything.
Considerably better today (although shoulder is still sore).
According to guidance, I would have still been working if I hadn’t taken a test (no raised temperature and well enough, testing not recommended, but if you do and it is positive, then 5 days off).
Arse. Round two.
It was 7 months after the last dose before I felt able to go for a bike ride, and having lost any vague resemblance of fitness I may ever have had I still haven't got back up to 20 miles, can't ride up hills, and am epically slow as in far, far slower than I've ever been since any of you have known me. i'm really really hoping that the shorter gap (six weeks or so, compared with five months) between booster and infection helps out this time....
There seems to be an awful lot of it about again.
I really hope so.
Last time was a fortnight (Easter Holidays) of being really unwell, then about 12 weeks (entire summer term) of being ill/knackered/running on fumes (during which I basically got work done, cooked to feed my and Cub, and did pretty much *nothing* else because that took everything I had) then the best part of six weeks summer holiday spent almost entirely asleep. I realised that I was just about back on form work-wise in September when the worst New-Year-New-Term-Ticket-Tsunami I've ever had hit me - our team of 4 f/t + 2p/t, one of which is me, got through over 600 helldesk tickets in a fortnight. More than half were mine. I figured I must be approximately better because a few months back I couldn't have coped with that workload or the 15-18 hour days it took just to do the firefighting and get it heading in the right direction.
It's literally three weeks since I attempted my first non-utlity ride, and my first ride over 10 miles, since pre-covid. The idea of trying to trudge through another six months of feeling that shit all over again would be grim.
Anecdotally, it's rife among our employees and at the local hospital but the tests aren't picking it up until about the 6th day after symptoms start. My mother has it (she is fine). I have a bit of a cough but test is very negative.
Anecdotally, it's rife among our employees and at the local hospital but the tests aren't picking it up until about the 6th day after symptoms start. My mother has it (she is fine). I have a bit of a cough but test is very negative.
Your irregular reminder that the lateral flow tests had poor sensitivity back when the circulating variants were still the ones they were designed for... :-\
Anecdotally, it's rife among our employees and at the local hospital but the tests aren't picking it up until about the 6th day after symptoms start. My mother has it (she is fine). I have a bit of a cough but test is very negative.
Your irregular reminder that the lateral flow tests had poor sensitivity back when the circulating variants were still the ones they were designed for... :-\
Anecdotally, it's rife among our employees and at the local hospital but the tests aren't picking it up until about the 6th day after symptoms start. My mother has it (she is fine). I have a bit of a cough but test is very negative.
Your irregular reminder that the lateral flow tests had poor sensitivity back when the circulating variants were still the ones they were designed for... :-\
I guess it depends on where you get your information from, or how you define "poor".
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-11-11-oxford-university-and-phe-confirm-lateral-flow-tests-show-high-specificity-and-are#:~:text=It%20has%20an%20overall%20sensitivity,in%20symptomatic%20and%20asymptomatic%20individuals.
Anecdotally, it's rife among our employees and at the local hospital but the tests aren't picking it up until about the 6th day after symptoms start. My mother has it (she is fine). I have a bit of a cough but test is very negative.
Your irregular reminder that the lateral flow tests had poor sensitivity back when the circulating variants were still the ones they were designed for... :-\
I guess it depends on where you get your information from, or how you define "poor".
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-11-11-oxford-university-and-phe-confirm-lateral-flow-tests-show-high-specificity-and-are#:~:text=It%20has%20an%20overall%20sensitivity,in%20symptomatic%20and%20asymptomatic%20individuals.
Meanwhile we haven't had a case a work for several weeks, looks like the local wave has passed.
It's still useful for mass screening (picking up asymptomatic cases), which is what that article from 2020 implies, and how the LFTs were originally used (the high selectivity means that if you have a positive LFT, you almost certainly have covid). We seem to have forgotten this as the government abandoned PCR testing, and LFTs started to be used for diagnosis.
Practically, if you've got the lurgy, there's a decent chance that it's covid, and you should behave accordingly[1]. A negative LFT doesn't change that.
I've been achey, tired & lethargic for the last week. An unproductive chesty cough as well. Today these symptoms have been joined by a constant low level headache. Several covid tests done, but all negative. Do those things have a "best before" date on them ?
immunity debt
immunity debt
Isn't that just antivax conspiraloon-speak for "we did stuff that stopped people getting infections for a while, and now we've stopped doing the stuff they're getting the infections again", rather than an actual thing that immune systems do?
immunity debt
Isn't that just antivax conspiraloon-speak for "we did stuff that stopped people getting infections for a while, and now we've stopped doing the stuff they're getting the infections again", rather than an actual thing that immune systems do?
I read it as more than that - that the 2 years we spent not getting infections have made us more vulnerable to a greater range of infections now we are getting them again, because our immune systems haven't been challenged as much.
immunity debt
Isn't that just antivax conspiraloon-speak for "we did stuff that stopped people getting infections for a while, and now we've stopped doing the stuff they're getting the infections again", rather than an actual thing that immune systems do?
We still got infections. Bugs were still circulating (particularly amongst the young in schools). Strep A and RSV numbers were high in both 2020 and 2021. In fact, levels of iGAS in England are *lower* that they were pre-pandemic.
Interpretationhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00525-4/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00525-4/fulltext)
The extraordinary absence of RSV during winter 2020–21 probably resulted in a cohort of young children without natural immunity to RSV, thereby raising the potential for increased RSV incidence, out-of-season activity, and health-service pressures when measures to restrict SARS-CoV-2 transmission were relaxed.
I've been achey, tired & lethargic for the last week. An unproductive chesty cough as well. Today these symptoms have been joined by a constant low level headache. Several covid tests done, but all negative. Do those things have a "best before" date on them ?
Whilst strep A and RSV numbers may have been high (I have no data)
We had a debate in the office about how you know whether you had cold or the flu?
Whilst strep A and RSV numbers may have been high (I have no data)
The Strep A thing is weird. It's ISO standard sore throat lurgy. You'd expect it to spread rapidly and cause a lot of sore throats and the occasional rash when the kids went back to school without any protective measures in *checks notes* September 2020.
Perhaps there could be something affecting people's immune response. Possibly (and I'm clutching at straws here) a new, widespread, viral disease? Or maybe it was because they were kept off school for a couple of months two years previously...
Whilst strep A and RSV numbers may have been high (I have no data)
The Strep A thing is weird. It's ISO standard sore throat lurgy. You'd expect it to spread rapidly and cause a lot of sore throats and the occasional rash when the kids went back to school without any protective measures in *checks notes* September 2020.
Perhaps there could be something affecting people's immune response. Possibly (and I'm clutching at straws here) a new, widespread, viral disease? Or maybe it was because they were kept off school for a couple of months two years previously...
That makes an assumption that covid is somehow unique, and not yet another coronavirus distinguished only by its novelty (and in essence, it's not that divergent from existing coronaviruses in humans). I've never read any compelling evidence why that should be the case.
It's a bit odd to argue that lockdown successfully held back covid but didn't have a similar impact on other infections.
We had a debate in the office about how you know whether you had cold or the flu?
The main difference is the fever (you don't get three days of shivering and sweating with a cold) and the extreme fatigue. It's also normal to lose appetite with flu, but not with a cold. Basically, flu is many times worse.We had a debate in the office about how you know whether you had cold or the flu?
It's easy. If you've ever had flu you don't need to ask yourself that question.
We’ve both tested +ve again…. Merry fecking Christmas!
We’ve both tested +ve again…. Merry fecking Christmas!
I don't have covid.
Bloody hell, this bug is taking some getting over.
Caught it early december. thought I was over it by Christmas. Came back at new year.
Still ill.
My boss was off for 4 weeks - and she's still suffering.
It is the dragging exhaustion as much as anything.
[edit] this is ridiculous. I'm back to where I was over a week ago. Struggling to breath while talking.
Managed a brisk 3km walk with dog yesterday.
Heart rate is absurd. Over 80 just lying in bed.
I'm glad I've finally got covid now and got it over and done with, even unvacced. I think the fear is worse than the actual disease, I've had worse colds.
I'm glad I've finally got covid now and got it over and done with, even unvacced. I think the fear is worse than the actual disease, I've had worse colds.
Except it is sensible to look at population wide data, rather than individual.
I'm glad I've finally got covid now and got it over and done with, even unvacced. I think the fear is worse than the actual disease, I've had worse colds.
We're also being led by probably the most corrupt and incompetent administration in the UK's history.
Except it is sensible to look at population wide data, rather than individual.
As helly says, there's no such thing as 'over and done with' when it comes to Covid. There is increasing evidence that catching it does not confer lifelong immunity, nor does vaccination. It is clear that people can be re-infected (both Mr R and I have had it twice) and that each time you get re-infected the damage done is compounded (which is why the way Covid in schools has been handled is criminal... we've created a generation of children of whom many will have significant health problems).
And now we have variants like XBB1.5 that are more easily transmissible and vaccine-evasive...
The average timespan of a pandemic is 4-6 years... we're only just over half way through this and living in an interconnected world where the transmission of new variants is far easier than it was during the 1918-1920 'flu pandemic. We're also being led by probably the most corrupt and incompetent administration in the UK's history.
Covid has next to no impact on the vast majority of children and they're paying a high price for covid restrictions, whether you believe they were necessary or not. (http://Covid has next to no impact on the vast majority of children and they're paying a high price for covid restrictions, whether you believe they were necessary or not.)
Sadly I think this is true.
Teachers are noticing decreased social skills in covid babies. I suspect we will see increased allergies as well due to decreased immune system activity from dirt,etc.
There’s a big narrative going on that the effects of lockdown were way worse than just letting a few more old people die would have been.
It is coming from the same people that are fighting for other freedoms, like the right to drive wherever they want whenever they want, and so on.
The old people would have died anyway, apparently.
One of the biggest failures of communication has been confusing what happens to a person with what happens at the population level and that it wasn't about you, it was about us.
Lockdown was pretty much all we had at the time. It was a failure of global public health that led to that. To claim that it didn’t have significant negative effects is a bit odd but seems to align with certain mindsets. Lockdown is the price we paid to stave off the worst of Covid. It wasn’t a small price, and the majority was paid by the young and poor. It might be nice to occasionally acknowledge that debt.
To claim that an ‘we’ve created a generation of children many of whom will have significant health problems’ is reckless scaremongering. Not to mention entirely lacking in evidence.
The tests I have been using are a couple of months within their use-by date, but it seems to me that the phials have somehow lost fluid over time. It is actually quite difficult to squeeze two drops of fluid out onto the test gubbins.
Have been feeling really shite for some days, with explosive coughing and sneezing. For the first time in my life, I feel at risk of lavatorial accidents as a result.I think you can get cheap but reliable tests from Savers, of which I'm sure you have at least one in Southend. But of course it's quite possible you have eg flu rather than covid.
I’ve tested negative for Covid, but I feel a lot worse than I did in June last year, when I tested positive. The tests I have been using are a couple of months within their use-by date, but it seems to me that the phials have somehow lost fluid over time. It is actually quite difficult to squeeze two drops of fluid out onto the test gubbins.
I had to combine two vials of solution, which seemed to work when I tested myself earlier, but I don't have covid just a general other unspecified cold. I wouldn't have bothered but I am – or was – heading to the office tomorrow. Too snotty and sick now to contemplate it so the outcome is moot. I'm tempted to cure myself with a litre bottle of Campari I acquired earlier. It has to be worth a try, right?Does trump recommend Campari nasal irrigation now?
I had to combine two vials of solution, which seemed to work when I tested myself earlier, but I don't have covid just a general other unspecified cold. I wouldn't have bothered but I am – or was – heading to the office tomorrow. Too snotty and sick now to contemplate it so the outcome is moot. I'm tempted to cure myself with a litre bottle of Campari I acquired earlier. It has to be worth a try, right?
I'm still coughing and sneezing very violently. I went to bed briefly last night but being horizontal seemed to make me cough uncontrollably. I got dressed and spent the night in a chair with a duvet over me. Curiously, I didn't need to get up for a wee, which normally I do. I slept reasonably well, but I have been falling asleep in a chair on and off all day.
My temperature is my normal 36°C, according to my cheap thermometer, and my blood oxygen levels are >95%. So I'm not feverish and I wouldn't class this as flu.
I had to combine two vials of solution, which seemed to work when I tested myself earlier, but I don't have covid just a general other unspecified cold. I wouldn't have bothered but I am – or was – heading to the office tomorrow. Too snotty and sick now to contemplate it so the outcome is moot. I'm tempted to cure myself with a litre bottle of Campari I acquired earlier. It has to be worth a try, right?
Make some Campari Spritz. 50/50 Campari and prosecco, or 1/3 each Campari, white wine and sparkling water.
GWS Wow.Ditto.
Another positive test this morning with a somewhat bolder line. Jan tested negative. It was a different batch of tests, scrounged from a neighbour, so possibly more recent and therefore more sensitive. (Bland assumptions are us)
Does anyone know the extent to which the designers of the tests are trying to make them keep up with the latest variants? I recognise that they will always be playing catchup, but it makes sense to adapt them to the latest possible.
I tested positive just now with the faintest line I've ever seen.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ADCreHdG4bWnmswEExZ__G0VKhmO_hgWEWv-yIQaly4KjGgb_V9v0x2Mc2CIyt1ikVJxJvwTAllhCtP24scTz-NxCvsBZBHQezY7c4Jy1FiQeD9-grnK2pEM=w2400)
I believe andygates OTP is still afflicted many months after the infection.It's not much fun even after a few days. I can taste the ghost of citrus fruit and tomatoes, but even dark roast coffee doesn't register at all. At least it shows that I really do drink because I like the taste...
It looks very possible that one of our Xmas dinner guests brought us an extra present. I went down with a scratchy sore throat on Thursday evening, quickly followed by all the symptoms of a heavy cold. I thought nothing of it until I lost my sense of taste and smell on Monday night. Tested this morning and very very positive for plague even though I feel much better today. Mrs JL has been feeling “iffy, nothing more”. She has also tested positive. Up until today, she was one of the few people who had never had Covid, testing negative throughout all its previous visitations to our household.
It looks very possible that one of our Xmas dinner guests brought us an extra present. I went down with a scratchy sore throat on Thursday evening, quickly followed by all the symptoms of a heavy cold. I thought nothing of it until I lost my sense of taste and smell on Monday night. Tested this morning and very very positive for plague even though I feel much better today. Mrs JL has been feeling “iffy, nothing more”. She has also tested positive. Up until today, she was one of the few people who had never had Covid, testing negative throughout all its previous visitations to our household.t.
I'd be interested to know how you get on. About half the people I know who've had Covid before and again recently have said it's they worst they've had - and the other half have suggested it was mild. It really does seem to be quite personal how it affects individuals.
Hospitals around here are asking people to mask though, do to the large increase in number of people with Covid.
It looks very possible that one of our Xmas dinner guests brought us an extra present. I went down with a scratchy sore throat on Thursday evening, quickly followed by all the symptoms of a heavy cold. I thought nothing of it until I lost my sense of taste and smell on Monday night. Tested this morning and very very positive for plague even though I feel much better today. Mrs JL has been feeling “iffy, nothing more”. She has also tested positive. Up until today, she was one of the few people who had never had Covid, testing negative throughout all its previous visitations to our household.t.
I'd be interested to know how you get on. About half the people I know who've had Covid before and again recently have said it's they worst they've had - and the other half have suggested it was mild. It really does seem to be quite personal how it affects individuals.
Hospitals around here are asking people to mask though, do to the large increase in number of people with Covid.
So far, I would be in both camps. It’s my second confirmed bout of Covid, the first being in May 2022. This one seems worse than the my memory of the first but still nothing like my one experience of the flu which knocked me sideways for two weeks. I spent my New Year (Friday to Monday) pretty much welded to the sofa with a bunged head, background headache, sore throat, a bit of joint ache and a phlegmy cough from high up in my respiratory tract which are the standard set of symptoms for me for at least one cold per winter. By Tuesday I was beginning to feel a bit better and today I just have the remnants of the cough and a bit of snot. My sense of smell and taste are also not quite right but they both seem less dulled than they were on Monday evening. Hopefully the improvement will continue, I intend to take it easy for the next couple of weeks just in case. My main observation would be how quickly the full set of symptoms developed. Slightly scratchy sore throat at 7pm but otherwise felt absolutely fine. By 11pm I had the full on headache, bunged head and joint aches and by 8am was coughing too.
Mrs JL, the Covid virgin up until I shared the love with her, seems to be doing better than me. She reports a slightly bunged head and slightly sore throat but nothing more.
There is definitely a lot of Covid about at the moment. and I suspect a number of friends and colleagues who have “just had a nasty cold, not Covid” in the last six weeks are saying that because they didn’t test and so don’t know any different.
I think the 50 quid note analogy for flu vs cold remains the best
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haha, I' d lift the lid of my coffin for a £10 note .. ;)Dead is a level of activity capability or two higher than floored by flu.
It looks very possible that one of our Xmas dinner guests brought us an extra present. I went down with a scratchy sore throat on Thursday evening, quickly followed by all the symptoms of a heavy cold. I thought nothing of it until I lost my sense of taste and smell on Monday night. Tested this morning and very very positive for plague even though I feel much better today. Mrs JL has been feeling “iffy, nothing more”. She has also tested positive. Up until today, she was one of the few people who had never had Covid, testing negative throughout all its previous visitations to our household.