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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4150 on: 09 March, 2016, 10:43:02 pm »
Agreed.  I still struggle with overcast as a noun, from weather forecasters.  I dare say it's been going for years but I still struggle!

I've never heard that. It could be quite a nice description, "they rode into the overcast" or suchlike, but it doesn't sound right.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4151 on: 10 March, 2016, 01:29:26 am »
Some USAnian SCIENTIST used the word "automatize", which I think means "automate", on a recent episode of "The Infinite Monkey Cage".  I trust he will never be invited to appear on the Home Service again.
That's just a similar (mis-)construction to "burglarize".

I quite like the idea of the verb being "to burglarate."

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4152 on: 10 March, 2016, 09:16:05 am »
Some USAnian SCIENTIST used the word "automatize", which I think means "automate", on a recent episode of "The Infinite Monkey Cage".  I trust he will never be invited to appear on the Home Service again.
That's just a similar (mis-)construction to "burglarize".

I quite like the idea of the verb being "to burglarate."

And a burglar being a burglarator.

Funny thing is, "burgle" is a back-formation from "burglar", so that "burglarize" is closer to strict English usage.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4153 on: 10 March, 2016, 01:12:28 pm »
I quite like the idea of the verb being "to burglarate."

Which, for me, conjures up a "Rate my burgling" website, where victims can judge how well-conducted their burglary was.  Did they leave a mess?  Did they miss anything of value?  Leave any fingerprints?  How likely are you to recommend this burglar to friends or family?

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4154 on: 10 March, 2016, 10:05:26 pm »
And a burglar being a burglarator.
But surely a burglarator would burglaratorize?

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4155 on: 11 March, 2016, 12:16:44 am »
And a burglar being a burglarator.
But surely a burglarator would burglaratorize?

No, I think burglaratorising would be done by a burglaratorisator.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4156 on: 11 March, 2016, 07:49:35 am »
That's burglaratorizing. It's never spelt with an s because it's never spelt at all on this side of the Pond ;D

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4157 on: 11 March, 2016, 08:13:43 am »
But them'uns over there do spell spelt spelled, wrought wreaked and sought seeked, and make other depressing regularizatications for the benefit of the thick.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4158 on: 11 March, 2016, 03:07:55 pm »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4159 on: 11 March, 2016, 07:10:13 pm »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4160 on: 12 March, 2016, 03:05:06 pm »
Radio 2 newsperson just said this afternoon's match at Twickenham "could be a potential decider." He can bugger off. It could be a decider, or it's a potential decider. "Could be a potential decider" is a very irritating level of redundancy.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4161 on: 12 March, 2016, 04:13:29 pm »
The stock management software at my new job uses 'less' instead of 'fewer'. The less/fewer never used to bother me, but it is one of Mr Smith's wee foibles that he is finely attuned to the many misuses and now I have to see it in my notifications every working day.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4162 on: 12 March, 2016, 05:09:37 pm »
The stock management software at my new job uses 'less' instead of 'fewer'.

Never trust software that wasn't written by pedants.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4163 on: 12 March, 2016, 06:25:51 pm »
Agreed.  I still struggle with overcast as a noun, from weather forecasters.  I dare say it's been going for years but I still struggle!

I've never heard that. It could be quite a nice description, "they rode into the overcast" or suchlike, but it doesn't sound right.

Maybe it's a Carol Kirkland special; she uses it all the time, except when it's sunny.

I don't like "evening time" either - cuddly rubbish!

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4164 on: 12 March, 2016, 07:37:43 pm »
Weather forecasters seem to be developing their own weather-forecaster-language, it's not as irritating as police-officer-language but it does grate a bit. "Spits and spots" is OK once, but every day, repeatedly, for a week? Dawning is quite a poetic word but "East Anglia will be dawning foggy" - what next, "Scotland will be dusking drizzly"?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4165 on: 13 March, 2016, 08:37:34 pm »
I think Scotland is more likely to be misting murkily - which will only matter if you are "out and about" (and in Scotland).

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4166 on: 20 March, 2016, 05:39:00 pm »
Wasn't sure where to post this - Grammar to make you cringe, fonts to make you cringe, politics to make you cringe, or kerning to make Ian cringe.


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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4167 on: 20 March, 2016, 06:26:53 pm »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4168 on: 21 March, 2016, 07:51:09 pm »
Is it that it should say 'In memoriam'? Or just 'Memorial'?

Or is it something else?*

I'm saddened but slightly amused by the idea of a tree being felled by a desk.

Was it in a car park?

(*I thought I was pretty good at grammar (I have been known in several work places as 'Dictionary corner'), but I'm a dilettante by some of the standards here, and I often wonder if I've spotted the real transgression, and not just the obvious one.

Mine field.

(Or is that mined field? Or minefield?))
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4169 on: 22 March, 2016, 01:24:05 am »
Yes IMO, either a Memorial or In Memoriam.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4170 on: 22 March, 2016, 09:36:42 am »
Or a simple "In Memory of".

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4171 on: 22 March, 2016, 12:14:41 pm »
Reminds me of Alan Coren's favourite misprint in a funeral notice, something like "...passed away Tues. 14th, mourned by wife Sally and children Arthur, William and Eldine.  A much-loved man by all who knew him. Sadly pissed".
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4172 on: 22 March, 2016, 02:28:33 pm »
Shirley 'dressage' is not what the BBC meant to say  ::-)

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4173 on: 22 March, 2016, 04:39:47 pm »
Rather apt reuse of a word I thought was an equestrian discipline.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4174 on: 23 March, 2016, 12:19:26 am »
It's when horses attempt to make an ad-hoc statement through the medium of interpretive dance.
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