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ALPI 4000
« on: 22 September, 2017, 08:18:10 pm »
The website is now available http://www.alpi4000.it/

It'll be on the 22nd of July 2018
Registration opens October 1st
A maximum of 350 riders
No qualification required
1200km 1400km 20000m of climbing I'm seriously considering it.


Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #1 on: 22 September, 2017, 08:48:03 pm »
1400km?

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #2 on: 22 September, 2017, 08:57:43 pm »
1400km?
You are right
Corrected in the original post

Jack_P

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #3 on: 22 September, 2017, 09:04:19 pm »
Interesting, good link. Like that  :thumbsup:

whosatthewheel

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #4 on: 23 September, 2017, 09:04:33 am »
Goes through my hometown... got to be good!  ;D

Big climbs, but also a lot of flat... on paper (and in my opinion) it looks more doable than MC1K and MP1k. Between Biella and Mantova there is hardly one vertical meter of elevation, it's flatter than the fens.

Too big for me though...  :P

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #5 on: 23 September, 2017, 11:27:03 am »
I've read the link - what's the 4000 about?  Is it that the passes are over 4000 metres?

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #6 on: 23 September, 2017, 12:50:49 pm »
Thanks for the post, this is the first time I've heard about the ride. My holidays start on Friday 20th July and I may need to pick between this and the Mille Cymru for a July ride.  I'll then nee to decide if I want to double up and ride Madrid-Gijón-Madrid 1200 in August as well. I've never ridden any of the ALPI 4000 roads, but it looks like a fantastic route with a mixture of scenery.
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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #7 on: 23 September, 2017, 12:54:19 pm »
I've read the link - what's the 4000 about?  Is it that the passes are over 4000 metres?

I assume it is because it passes 2 Apline peaks that are above 4000 metres in height (Gran Paradiso and Pizzo Bernina).  Highest passes are nowhere near that height which is just as well as when I used to climb those peaks and others above 4000 metres it was bad enough with having to cycle as well! (4000 metres is an iconic height for Alpine peaks)

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #8 on: 23 September, 2017, 12:57:17 pm »
OK, thanks!

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #9 on: 23 September, 2017, 12:58:29 pm »
Thanks for the post, this is the first time I've heard about the ride. My holidays start on Friday 20th July and I may need to pick between this and the Mille Cymru for a July ride.  I'll then nee to decide if I want to double up and ride Madrid-Gijón-Madrid 1200 in August as well. I've never ridden any of the ALPI 4000 roads, but it looks like a fantastic route with a mixture of scenery.

Stelvio and d'Iseran are both very nice and rather iconic passes so far as cycling is concerned.  Of course, you don't have to ride 1400km just to ride them, but a very nice looking bike ride (if a also challenging).

Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #10 on: 23 September, 2017, 02:22:55 pm »
Its on my list :thumbsup:

Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #11 on: 11 October, 2017, 01:15:20 am »
Registration seems to have opened yesterday (10 Oct).  http://www.alpi4000.it/en

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A Grand Tour through Alps and northern Italy, at the centre of Europe. ALPI 4000 goes around Alps over 4000 high peaks (Mont Blanc, Gran Paradiso, Cervino, Pizzo Bernina), it leads you to the best valleys and the highest passes. You will pass by Italian big lakes (Maggiore lake, Como lake and Garda lake) and cross the padanian plane following the longest Italian river Po.
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whosatthewheel

Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #12 on: 11 October, 2017, 06:22:03 am »
I've seen the route... I come from NW Italy

You will get pretty good views of the Mont Blanc, but not a chance to spot the Cervino (Matterhorn)... for that you d'need to take a diversion and climb another HC col (col st. Pantaleon)  ;D dubious you'll see the Gran Paradiso either...

With the exception of the Padana plain, it looks very beautiful

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Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #13 on: 11 October, 2017, 08:00:23 am »
Am I reading this right that you'll climb the Stelvio after you've done 1400km? wow

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Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #14 on: 11 October, 2017, 08:40:05 am »
Am I reading this right that you'll climb the Stelvio after you've done 1400km? wow
Always warm up properly before strenuous exercise.

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Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #15 on: 11 October, 2017, 09:21:45 am »
Stelvio is long but well-graded , with all of those famous hairpins. Mind you, I didn't have 1400km in my legs the time I ascended!
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Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #16 on: 11 October, 2017, 12:24:50 pm »
Interested, but the logistics of having to fly, and then take a 2.5hr train ride with a bike box (both ways) are slightly putting me off.
Any comments?

I see the route passes near Turin. That would have made a good start/finish point (as per Rome last year for the 999 mile start).
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Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #17 on: 11 October, 2017, 12:40:10 pm »
I took the train from Bristol to Rome last year.  That was a pain (and a lot more expensive than flying); had to pack the bike at the station in Paris (and vice versa). But if you were flying, you'd already have the bike in a box, and would already be taking public transport into Milan? So not sure it would be much extra effort than to carry the bike in and out of a station, and on and off a train. Mind you, I wasn't using a bike box but a bike bag -- the trains are pretty friendly to bike bags ...

Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #18 on: 11 October, 2017, 02:37:36 pm »
Ah, this looks amazing! Of course I was already aware of this after finishing the last 1001 Miglia edition and this past summer's 999 Miglia (South of Rome).

I've pre-registered now (only 10 euro) - Something to loook forward to as I start to plan next year. Looks like the easiest way of transplrt would be fly to Milan or Bergamo and either train / taxi (lots of carrying / transfering with a bulky box) or hire a mid-sized car.

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Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #19 on: 11 October, 2017, 03:10:29 pm »
Ride up from Milan. Another two days cycling in Italy... what's not to like?

I'm hoping the word 'up' is figurative though I suspect it may not be....

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Re: Alpi 4000 -- 1450km along -- 20 km up
« Reply #20 on: 11 October, 2017, 05:06:06 pm »
Ride up from Milan. Another two days cycling in Italy... what's not to like?

I'm hoping the word 'up' is figurative though I suspect it may not be....

From a quick look at Google maps, for example:- its 214km from Milan Milpensa to Bormio , with 2693 m of climb, so definitely 'up'. A gentle warm-up? That was a 'walking' route, with warnings about some 'private' roads and a ferry. On the bright side, it will be mainly 'down' back to the airport (or hotel if you store your bike box there).

Car hire from Milan  is another option, as Veloboy writes, but expensive to leave it parked up unused during the event.
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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #21 on: 11 October, 2017, 05:16:56 pm »
Only 10€ guaranties you one of the spots and at discounted price? Too tempting for me, I'm pre-registered.

Alpi 4000 is now one of my priorities for next year. Looking forward to it.

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #22 on: 11 October, 2017, 06:58:01 pm »
I've paid my 10€  :thumbsup:.

I'll be flying out Friday afternoon / evening.

I read somewhere on the website the organisers were planning on a shuttle from one of the Milan airports.

Ah yes http://www.alpi4000.it/come-raggiungerci

"TRANSFER will be organized (for PAYMENT) for the evening of July 20, which can also carry packed bicycles."
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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #23 on: 11 October, 2017, 07:04:54 pm »
I've paid my 10€  :thumbsup:.

I'll be flying out Friday afternoon / evening.

I read somewhere on the website the organisers were planning on a shuttle from one of the Milan airports.

Ah yes http://www.alpi4000.it/come-raggiungerci

"TRANSFER will be organized (for PAYMENT) for the evening of July 20, which can also carry packed bicycles."

Two airports actually... Malpensa and Orio al Serio (bergamo)... the latter is a low cost hot spot...Ryanair and the likes fly there

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Re: ALPI 4000
« Reply #24 on: 11 October, 2017, 09:23:51 pm »
I've registered now. No 256 already  :thumbsup:
''It is better to travel hopefully than to arrive."

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