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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #375 on: 30 September, 2014, 02:10:31 pm »
French/Italian threading?
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #376 on: 30 September, 2014, 02:15:32 pm »
Both RH thread in those cases but different diameters.
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #377 on: 30 September, 2014, 02:30:14 pm »
My guesses:

1.  The left LH thread was cut to override an original RH thread that got badly damaged.

2.  Pure mistake.

3.  Made for a circus performing backwards cyclist.

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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #378 on: 27 October, 2014, 09:49:17 am »
Now then people,

I must apologise for my lack of presence over the last few months, been stupidly busy along with a few physical and domestic problems. I know I have missed a few communications so if any of the queries are still current re send and I wil see what I can do.

Cheers

Dave Yates
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #379 on: 13 November, 2014, 07:43:30 pm »
Dave, whereabouts did you put the frame number on your M Steel frames? I'm looking at one on Ebay and am trying to find out a bit more about it.
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #380 on: 13 November, 2014, 07:46:54 pm »
Dave, whereabouts did you put the frame number on your M Steel frames? I'm looking at one on Ebay and am trying to find out a bit more about it.

Ask Fungus, he has one.
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #381 on: 13 November, 2014, 09:38:12 pm »
Dave, whereabouts did you put the frame number on your M Steel frames? I'm looking at one on Ebay and am trying to find out a bit more about it.

Under the BB shell and on the steering column. Very early frames were numbered using a vibrating engraver so may be quite indistinct but the numbers will be there.

Cheers

Dave Yates
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #382 on: 20 November, 2014, 09:37:05 pm »
Frame arrived today. MS550.  The paint is showing its age so I'm thinking about getting it powder coated.  Are replacement decals available?
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #383 on: 21 November, 2014, 06:20:54 am »
Frame arrived today. MS550.  The paint is showing its age so I'm thinking about getting it powder coated.  Are replacement decals available?

Heretic! PC? Noooooo.

Having said that, tld's Paul Donohue got powder coated and looks gorgeous. That frame is not lugged, though.
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #384 on: 21 November, 2014, 02:38:54 pm »
Frame arrived today. MS550.  The paint is showing its age so I'm thinking about getting it powder coated.  Are replacement decals available?

Heretic! PC? Noooooo.

Having said that, tld's Paul Donohue got powder coated and looks gorgeous. That frame is not lugged, though.

I know. Trouble is, the last frame (the Mercian) I had resprayed went waaaaay over budget, although to be fair that was down to me adding extras (take out that dent, remove that bracket, remove that stem, headset, decals, contrasting head tube ect ect). And it took a long while.  I shall ponder.
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #385 on: 22 November, 2014, 11:10:04 am »
And having pondered, I think I'll finish building it up, see how it rides. If it's good, I'll send it off to Coningsby for proper painting. (Being a bit slow on the uptake, I didn't realise that Dave did renovations)
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #386 on: 22 November, 2014, 06:03:45 pm »
Having been there, I've seen Dave's renovations, and very good they are too. Cheaper than Mercian, probably.
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #387 on: 22 November, 2014, 06:50:50 pm »
Oooo, is this where I post a pick of adave's handywork on Mrs T's Carlton? :)
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #388 on: 23 November, 2014, 12:26:39 pm »
Hi Tim
MS550 was a frame made for shop stock in 1984 so I have no idea who bought it ! I have M.Steel decals but probably not exactly the same as original. If you like it afterriding it drop us a line via the website and I can certainly sort it out for you.

Cheers

Dave Yates
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #389 on: 23 November, 2014, 12:43:44 pm »
Oooo, is this where I post a pick of adave's handywork on Mrs T's Carlton? :)

Here, paint and refurb (including removing some braise ons and adding others) by Mr Y, build by Torslanda.

Colour choice by Mrs T :)

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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #390 on: 23 November, 2014, 03:45:59 pm »
Hi tiermat. Striking paint job but are you not worried about it coming off of the tyres ? ;D 8) ::-)
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #391 on: 24 November, 2014, 09:33:43 pm »
Does anyone know why some frame builders will not build a 953 frame fillet brazed?

I have contacted Reynolds who have confirmed that the fillet brazing of 953 can be done quite successfully,instead, most builders use either Tig welding (Brian Rourke) or will only build with lugs.

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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #392 on: 24 November, 2014, 09:42:59 pm »
There are some interesting (if you are a metallurgist or corrosion engineer) corrosion possibilities when combining some steels with some braze materials. HK is getting a fillet brazed stainless frame in the next year but I've not quite settled on the materials. I'm not sure whether that is why some framebuilders are not wanting to fillet braze 953 though.

Another possibility is that 953 is very, very thin and most fillet brazing is brass, so there is a fair amount of heat distortion. Silver fillet brazing has lower heat input but there are other disadvantages (as always).
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #393 on: 25 November, 2014, 07:14:37 am »
Hi tiermat. Striking paint job but are you not worried about it coming off of the tyres ? ;D 8) ::-)

;D
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #394 on: 13 February, 2015, 04:36:57 pm »
I wonder if the collective can help me with this.

An early 80s Clements frame with odd downtube bosses.



I'm struggling to get levers to fit on.



None of the downtube levers I have will fit. I've tried Simplex, Campag, Shimano indexed & friction and I'm kind of stumped. The thread is definitely NOT M5.

Suggestions if anyone has any - keep it clean, please!
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #395 on: 13 February, 2015, 07:21:53 pm »
Aren't they the unique braze ons that Shimano used in the AX era before they went back to matching the Campagnolo shape?
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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #396 on: 13 February, 2015, 08:45:43 pm »
They are indeed what LW&B said !!! I even have some in a pot somewhere if anybody wants one  ;) The thread as I recall is 4.5mm. Shades of Betamax

Cheers

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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #397 on: 13 February, 2015, 08:48:52 pm »
I will have a play with some bits and see if I can suggest a solution

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Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #398 on: 13 February, 2015, 09:13:03 pm »
I will have a play with some bits and see if I can suggest a solution

Dave Yates

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VELOMANCER

Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

Re: Help with frame related questions
« Reply #399 on: 13 February, 2015, 11:20:53 pm »
As ever, someone else has had the very same problem, albeit they solved it for downtube cable stops not for different levers ...

Drill press, file, M5 tap (though disappointingly not an angle grinder. Oh sorry, that's a meme from Another Place).

That frame looks like it's got some tidy touches.