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Title: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 October, 2012, 10:03:03 am
On Saturday my brother in law and nephew, who hold season tickets for a certain Manchester-based club, went to watch the home match against Swansea. They got their money's worth, for a given value of money's worth, as it turned out to be the longest match in the history of the premiership. Otherwise, apparently, it was pretty dire. City won 1-0.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 February, 2013, 06:45:19 pm
I was puzzled. I can hear the git-noises of football fans on the way to a match, but the BBC seemed not to have any reference to Saarfend playing at home this evening.

Then, problem solved. It would appear to be a home match in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy against our esteemed friends from down the road, Leyton Orient. I had never heard of the the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy but it appears to be "open to the 48 teams from Leagues 1 and 2 of The Football League".

I shall wait until the match has started before delivering Phyllis's shopping.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 February, 2013, 09:34:58 pm
The git-noises are heading back to the station and a police siren has just hurtled past.

It would appear that Saarfend drew 2-2 on the night and won 3 - 2 on aggregate.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 February, 2013, 06:28:35 pm
What is a "Capital One Cup" anyway?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 24 February, 2013, 07:02:05 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: clarion on 24 February, 2013, 08:15:01 pm
Suddenly, I feel very very :sick:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 24 February, 2013, 11:18:05 pm
Me too also  :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 February, 2013, 11:22:31 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Bledlow on 25 February, 2013, 11:04:08 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
Kim, where the hell did you get that imagination from?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 February, 2013, 11:27:58 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
I've only just realised quite how evil you are, Kim.  :demon:

By coincidence, today I saw a teenager in a "Boris" hoodie (royal blue with a white silhouette of the distinctive hair and face, and the name Boris underneath). Two doses of Boris in one day is too much!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 25 February, 2013, 11:56:34 pm
I've been here since 2009, and only *now* you realise I'm evil?   ::-)


Boris hoodies:

http://www.chargrilled.co.uk/t-shirts/Boris-Johnson-t-shirt.h

also http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+boris-johnson+sweatshirts-hoodies
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 February, 2013, 12:05:19 pm
It was one of the "chargrilled" design. You need to work a bit harder on the evil front to stand out, there's tough competition on here!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: clarion on 26 February, 2013, 12:56:21 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
Kim, where the hell did you get that imagination from?

And please return it, carefully disinfecting after removal.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 26 February, 2013, 01:41:55 pm
You need to work a bit harder on the evil front to stand out, there's tough competition on here!

True evil doesn't want to stand out...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 05 March, 2013, 09:10:49 pm
You can't put your foot up in Europe...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: CAMRAMan on 05 March, 2013, 10:23:32 pm
You can't put your foot up in Europe...
Think on when you're up against Ghent*, my lad...

*or a well-known team in white...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 06 March, 2013, 09:07:03 am
Bugger, beaten to it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 20 March, 2013, 02:07:01 pm
A football match programme has 64 pages. At least, it does at AFC Wimbledon. I'd never have guessed it was anywhere near that long.

And there are genuine Banskys in Mexico, at a few rural football grounds, which he painted when he went out there in the early ~90s-ish with an amateur team from Bristol.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 March, 2013, 10:51:17 am
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.

Snuff porn

I'm sure there would be a market
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 April, 2013, 09:39:02 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/11/matt-le-tissier-guernsey

If they pay my fares and accommodation for a week, I'll come on as a substitute for 30 minutes or so.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 August, 2013, 02:39:45 pm
There are git noises coming from outside. This makes me think that the fupbol season has started and the Saarfend Untied are about to play a home match.

Edit: the opponents are Plymouth Argyll, whom I believe were supported by the late Michael Foot. Why does a team from the Devon/Cornish border adopt a name that makes it sound as though it comes from the Scottish highlands?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: SteveC on 03 August, 2013, 05:07:52 pm
The club's website states:

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The motion to form a club was carried and the matter of the club name was discussed from which two suggestions came to the fore, ‘Pickwick’ and ‘Argyle’. Thankfully, those present, almost unanimously, decided the new club to be the ‘Argyle Football Club’ as the name was of “local application” whereas the other, coming from a Charles Dickens novel, was not.

By “local application”, this must mean Argyle Terrace, which was local to the prospective members. Though none are known to have lived in Argyle Terrace, attending was Charles Phillips, who was elected to the committee and became Argyle secretary for 1887-88, and he lived across the road at 7, Stafford Terrace. Another prominent Argyle Football member C. C. Boolds, whose residence had been used for a pre-Argyle formation meeting, had a Devonport born Uncle who, in the 1881 Census, lived in Argyle Street, Tynemouth, Northumberland. A lesser-known Argyle F.C. member in 1886 was a J. Reed who, a much later letter printed in the Western Morning News in 1937 claimed, was the originator of the name. This could be correct because at the time a builder named John Reed was living close by in Kirkby Place (1887) and Restormel Terrace (1889). Perhaps he built Argyle Terrace? Within six years of formation, nobody could remember the origin of the Argyle name because it was just plucked out of the air and chosen because it was suitably up-market for the club members social standing, as was middle-class Argyle Terrace; there was no deep reason. What is unusual today is that Plymouth Argyle held onto their original local amateur club name whilst most of today’s big town clubs have not. The fascination in the name is because of the geographically diverse juxtaposition of the two words ‘Plymouth’ and ‘Argyle’ and it seems to demand a specific explanation such as the ‘Argyll Regiment’ connection. From 1886 to 1903 when the name was just ‘Argyle’, there was no juxtaposition demanding explanation.

But seeing you don't like fupball, you probably don't care  ;)

MrsC lived in Plymouth during part of her childhood so has a bit of an interest...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 August, 2013, 06:33:14 pm
It was during a match with Argyle that Bristol Rovers fans first started singing Good Night, Irene, (changing Irene to Argyle for the occasion) which has stuck as their fan song.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 05 August, 2013, 05:26:43 pm
Plymouth Argyle 1900-1901 (http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/sv-00-01pic.asp)

The two in civvies at either end of the back row are my avatar's nephews.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Clare on 06 August, 2013, 06:41:20 pm
Edit: the opponents are Plymouth Argyll, whom I believe were supported by the late Michael Foot.

He wasn't just a supporter he was registered as a player on his 90th birthday. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/plymouth_argyle/3129167.stm)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 August, 2013, 08:34:00 pm
I've just discovered a new (to me) sport. Beach rugby.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 August, 2013, 12:17:16 pm
Is that a sport designed for ladies to ogle beefcake?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 14 August, 2013, 08:07:41 pm
7 minutes in, and Scotland aren't losing yet.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 15 August, 2013, 11:16:13 am
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/big-indifferent-land-3-small-inexplicably-angry-land-2-2-2013081578687
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 16 August, 2013, 01:08:06 pm
The Mash is on good form this week:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/bartoli-retires-so-she-can-destroy-john-inverdale-2013081678724

;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 22 August, 2013, 11:32:42 am
Possibly England's most impressive sportsman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23724904
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 August, 2013, 02:07:23 pm
Jen Ennis is 'opening' a new Adidas store in Leeds today, 3pm.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on 24 August, 2013, 03:32:35 pm
Possibly England's most impressive sportsman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23724904

Good basis for a new 'Ripping Yarn'.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 29 August, 2013, 11:14:08 pm
British tennis player Dan Evans makes it to the third round of the US Open.

Never heard of him before, but good on him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 September, 2013, 02:42:35 pm
Today is John Wisden's 187th birthday. For some reason Australians may have a superstitious fear of this.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 September, 2013, 04:43:31 pm
Last night's match was Southend United's 4th consecutive loss.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 September, 2013, 06:31:03 pm
bobb and I were up at the Commie today and Wednesday watching Edinburgh diving club's internal competition. Grace Reid is a member of that club - she came 6th at the last Commonwealth Games. I'll be surprised if she doesn't get a medal next year; she's outstanding. Some of the younger ones look very promising too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 November, 2013, 06:33:09 pm
My Spanish is dodgy, but Cristiano Ronaldo is only 2 goals from breaking Ferenc Puskas' record for goals in La Liga.
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El portugués lleva 154 goles en 145 partidos; el húngaro los marcó en 180. En este curso de los 32 goles del Real Madrid, 15 son de Cristiano (el 47%).
So it's not only the Premier League that's dominated by foreign players!
http://www.dalealplay.com/informaciondecontenido.php?con=507030
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on 04 November, 2013, 11:57:19 am
My stepson completed his second Ironman on Saturday, at Panama City BEach, Florida.  In 11hrs, 16 mins and 15 secs.  An improvement of some 2 1/2hrs on his first attempt 3 years ago.  Major improvement was in cycling leg, average up from 15mph to 20mph.  And his run was around 10mins/mile instead of 12.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Ian H on 04 November, 2013, 12:04:31 pm
Golf.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 07 January, 2014, 05:09:09 pm
Going to Old Trafford on Saturday. Good news-its free and corporate and food and drink will be taken on board.
Looking forward to Swansea doing a repeat performance .
Bad news -5 pm kick off means late journey home on overcrowded TPE train.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 14 January, 2014, 05:04:40 pm
Yay- just got two tickets for Scotland v England  at Murrayfield. There is a God after all. :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 28 January, 2014, 06:11:43 pm
Steven Gerrard, what a guy.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 28 January, 2014, 08:11:45 pm
It's a wonderful gesture but I'm just a bit surprised that he's done it all so publicly.  Maybe he's trying to encourage other overly-rich sportsmen to do the same sort of thing, in which case, I hope it works!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 02 February, 2014, 08:35:14 pm
Hm.  Bit bored, no work tomorrow.  I may stay up and watch the Super  Bollix thing.
Popped over the road for Twiglets and Minstrals.  :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 03 February, 2014, 10:22:11 am
Nah.  Fell asleep on the settee before it started.  Woke up just as the first quarter was coming to the end.  Watched a couple of minutes of the second quarter.  Couldn't get into it.  Went to bed.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 03 February, 2014, 09:39:35 pm
City vs Chelsea, eh? Blimey.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 February, 2014, 02:02:10 pm
How long is it since the team at the top of the premiership were 5 - 0 down?

Edit: I have just read that Arsenal's heaviest defeat at Anfield was 5 - 0 in 1964.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 February, 2014, 03:11:07 pm
bobb and I were up at the Commie today and Wednesday watching Edinburgh diving club's internal competition. Grace Reid is a member of that club - she came 6th at the last Commonwealth Games. I'll be surprised if she doesn't get a medal next year; she's outstanding. Some of the younger ones look very promising too.
And James Heatley of EDC beat Tom Daley last weekend.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 11 February, 2014, 10:33:35 am
Geraint Thomas vs Mark Lawrenson (posted here rather than elsewhere due to foopball content):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26117493
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 08 May, 2014, 05:49:01 pm
Hoorah (I suppose).  Bournville Athletic have won the cup!
Exactly what cup that is, I'm not entirely sure.  But hoorah anyway.  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 May, 2014, 06:06:09 pm
It's a drinking vessel, but not normally used for beer.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 08 May, 2014, 06:09:22 pm
Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 17 May, 2014, 05:07:27 pm
Come on Hull!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 17 May, 2014, 05:09:22 pm
Come on Hull!

 :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Polar Bear on 18 May, 2014, 07:06:30 pm
Come on Hull!

 :o

Oops!!   :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 18 May, 2014, 10:04:47 pm
Come on Hull!

 :o

Oops!!   :P

I know - damn shame.

I was at the last game at Boothferry Park where Darlo beat Hull.

Ten years later, it's damn weird to see them in the FA Cup final.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 May, 2014, 10:53:17 am
A shame.  I don't suppose there was anyone except Arsenal fans who didn't hope for a Hull win.  In fairness, I think Hull were lucky not to have had (at least) two penalties given against them.  It was great to see so many British players on the Hull side, too - made it seem more like a proper cup final.  Perhaps there is a small amount of justice that Hull's Myler didn't get a winner's medal after his appalling unpunished stamp on an opponent's knee in a recent game - not to mention his attacking Alan Pardew's forehead with his nose!

As an artistic TV spectacle I thought it was appalling: the clash between red and the black and orange made for very muddy viewing and when you add in the pink (pink for God's sake) ball it was all most unsatisfactory!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 07 June, 2014, 07:33:34 pm
A spectacular catch (http://m.espn.go.com/general/video?vid=11042840&cid=9912238&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FbfMCnOLw8w%22%7D)

Wow!  6 or out.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 June, 2014, 10:05:05 am
Somerset bowler Alfonso Thomas has taken four wickets in four balls.

Good effort, that, I thought.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 14 June, 2014, 03:15:57 pm
I swam a blissful mile today. The pool was nearly empty and I had the lane to myself for most of the time.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on 08 August, 2014, 11:45:59 am
Just back from sunny Swansea (and it was) supporting Ms Marco in the England U18 Touch Rugby team in the first ever U18 Euro Championships (home nations, plus France and Switzerland). Ms Marco did her bit for a sponsor, Sport Tape, by having continuous runs of tape from neck to heel down each leg applied by the physios - photos on England Touch Facebook page.

England won the pool stages (10 matches, each opponent played twice) and the semi-final against Scotland, but lost to Wales 6-3 in the final. Galling as England had beaten Wales in both pool matches, but congratulations to Wales.

Brilliant game (I like it much better than sevens), brilliant tournament. Adult Euro Champs started yesterday with about 20 national & regional teams. Hopefully another U18 Euro champs next year in Dublin, and hopefully the Swiss will be there; they turned up with flags, cowbells and huge smiles determined to enjoy themselves, and beat France (who fell to stereotypical bickering amongst themselves) in the 5th/6th playoff match to much applause.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 August, 2014, 11:52:04 am
Swansea is always sunny. :P

We were there in 1995 for the British Chess Championships and it was sweltering. There was one day when it was massively hot and humid in Swansea, but without any rain to speak of, but something like 3" of rain fell in Cardiff.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 08 August, 2014, 11:53:58 am
It didn't help in '95 that the Air Con in the main room was dead. I remember playing games where you spent the minimum possible time in the room, and quickly moved back to the slightly cooler bar area to cool down again.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 August, 2014, 12:01:42 pm
I recall Graham playing a game against a lad a year older than himself - Andrew Hughes I think his name was - and it went on for over 4 hours. G consumed more than 3 litres of orange squash. Most annoyingly, he lost the game in which he had had a promising position for about 50 moves but it gradually went downhill as Graham became more and more tired. Not surprising, I suppose, because he was about 6 weeks short of his 11th birthday at the time.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 05 September, 2014, 09:46:32 pm
Our Director was going on about his table football set today. He's a know Leeds Utd supporter so I asked him if one of the teams of little men on sticks are wearing Leeds kits. He said yes, so I asked if the opposition have had their legs hacked off.

He didn't think it was as funny as the rest of us did.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 September, 2014, 10:11:41 pm
Very good!  :thumbsup:

All together now!

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We all hate Leeds and Leeds...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 06 September, 2014, 01:20:09 am
Quote from: nb10
So he’d send his doting mother up the stairs with the stepladders
To get the Subbuteo out of the loft
He had all the accessories required for that big match atmosphere
The crowd and the dugout and the floodlights too
You’d always get palmed off with a headless centre forward
And a goalkeeper with no arms and a face like his
And he’d managed to get hold of a Dukla Prague away kit
‘Cos his uncle owned a sports shop and he’d kept it to one side
And after only five minutes you’d be down to ten men
‘Cos he’d sent off your right back for taking the base from under his left winger
And come to half time you were losing four-nil
Each and every goal a hotly disputed penalty
So you’d smash up the floodlights and the match was abandoned
And the dog would bark and you’d be banned from his house
And your travelling army of synthetic supporters
Would be taken away from you and thrown in the bin
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 September, 2014, 09:29:02 pm
Something fairly unusual might be about to happen in a football match.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 September, 2014, 09:37:17 pm
A propos of the above, good grief!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 08 September, 2014, 10:41:17 pm
Well this 'poor' England team just beat the team ranked 9th in the world away.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 September, 2014, 10:42:58 pm
To quote some Graun wit, England made Switzerland look "extremely average" whereas they are in fact, "quite average".
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 September, 2014, 05:01:59 pm
I just received an email inviting me to attend a rygbi match at Twickenham, England v New Zealand. Now, in my book, an invitation is just that, no strings attachd. If I invite someone over to dinner, I don't charge them for the food.

I clicked the link and discovered that the price of the place to which I had been invited was £599. Bollocks to that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Clare on 21 September, 2014, 04:47:20 pm
Gosh, what was in Leicester's half time oranges?

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 21 September, 2014, 05:28:26 pm
I don't know but I'm very grateful to them for sparing Liverpool the title of "biggest humiliation of the weekend"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 21 September, 2014, 09:23:55 pm
I don't know but I'm very grateful to them for sparing Liverpool the title of "biggest humiliation of the weekend"

Liverpool's humiliation is still colossal: without even playing, Newcastle soared effortlessly back to the bottom - but they've still lost one fewer game than Liverpool.  This is shaping up to be a fascinating season:  Will Newcastle be relegated by Christmas; will Diego Costa declare at half-time against Newcastle....?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 September, 2014, 11:53:58 pm
One of the Border Patrol chaps at a checkpoint I was stopped at yesterday is a West Ham fan.  No wonder he was in a good mood :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 23 September, 2014, 11:50:42 pm
Liverpool beat Boro on penalties - 14:13 :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on 27 September, 2014, 07:03:19 pm
Seen on a tee shirt -

Football - 90 minutes pretending you're hurt.
Cycling - 6 hours pretending you're not.

Like  8)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 16 October, 2014, 08:23:12 pm
A lovely story, getting some wider attention:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29532529

The book about Arthur Wharton mentioned is a fascinating read, too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on 16 October, 2014, 08:50:06 pm
A lovely story, getting some wider attention:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29532529

The book about Arthur Wharton mentioned is a fascinating read, too.

Heard about that on the radio, this morning.

Thought you might have linked to the Darlo man who won the World Masters, again, only 7 years after taking up track racing. :)

http://road.cc/content/news/133236-53-year-old-darlington-fireman-wins-third-uci-world-masters-title
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 17 October, 2014, 10:52:00 am
A lovely story, getting some wider attention:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29532529

The book about Arthur Wharton mentioned is a fascinating read, too.

It is a stunning piece of work and I'm fortunate to have met the sculptor, Vivien Mallock, a couple of times in her workshop nearby.

Here's the piece earlier this year in the Quarley foundry, part of the artists' workshop complex (Their annual open day).

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0pSFFqiT_JU/VEDlUKQYFaI/AAAAAAAAEWo/JvuClbWnN9M/w1296-h865-no/Arthur%2BWharton%2B1.jpg)

By sheer coincidence another of her pieces I bumped into whilst visiting Pegasus Bridge memorial (D-Day coast).

Brig. James Hill
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9zxybGeb5v8/VEDlVlaVx6I/AAAAAAAAEWw/nHuiQr3VpSg/w1298-h865-no/Vivien%2BMallock%2B-%2BPegasus.jpg)

And here working on the maquette for a Waterloo memorial.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S4A6ORYlI_8/U3nHtSiakuI/AAAAAAAADA0/-y2IjsH4XNk/w1298-h865-no/Quarley%2BArt022.JPG)

I never feel quite so talentless as when I walk around the Quarley studios and watch the artists at work.

Her work is all over the place, including Whitehall, the Pentagon, Portsmouth harbour.  She only tried sculpting in middle-age......she clearly has a knack for it.


I think I'll announce on YACF when the next open day is.  It's a lovely place to ride to (not far from the Wyke Down Camp site actually) and they sell Caik.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on 01 November, 2014, 05:31:04 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 03 November, 2014, 04:37:36 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b

What is it about the article that surprises you?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 03 November, 2014, 04:51:04 pm
Tennis.

Why the news coverage?

I understand it's an enjoyable game to play but really. it does seem to attract a disproportionate amount of news coverage.

"Andy Murray is through the the 3rd round of the Dubai ...."

"Andy Murray meets Roger Federer in the last 16 of the Beijing......"

There doesn't seem to be a day goes by without me learning about the whereabouts of the Scottish Tax-exile.

I can honestly  say that, apart from Wimbledon fortnight, nobody I know, or have ever known, talks about tennis, at all, ever.
I have never overheard a conversation about tennis.

Why the coverage?  It's currently the top BBC sports news headline item.

Why do I always know where Andy Murray is?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 November, 2014, 05:25:25 pm
I agree. Golf likewise. And motor racing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on 10 November, 2014, 06:39:59 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b

What is it about the article that surprises you?

That someone with an apparently important position can have and express such neanderthal views.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 November, 2014, 11:15:02 pm
New Zealand spectator wins $5000 with a spectacular catch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSX5TqnCPeY
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 12 November, 2014, 09:30:53 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b

What is it about the article that surprises you?

That someone with an apparently important position can have and express such neanderthal views.

It's an article about Russia.
Now what is it about the article that surprises you?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on 14 November, 2014, 11:50:45 am
OK Lee, you win. Congrats.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on 14 November, 2014, 11:53:11 am
Today is Bernard Hinault's 60th birthday. Felicitations to the most badass rider ever. God I feel old.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 November, 2014, 05:39:38 pm
Blimey! I didn't realise I was older than him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 November, 2014, 06:29:25 pm
Possibly the autumn rugby internationals should have a thread of their own, but ICBA to start one. However, it looks as though the Irish did well enough to breath a sigh of relief against Australia. They were 17 - 0 up at one time and eventually won 26 - 23, the score having been 20 - 20 at one point.

Well done them!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 22 November, 2014, 06:59:34 pm
20 minutes to go in Cardiff.

(Crosses all available appendages).

Edit: Bugger.  NOW look wot I dun :(
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 November, 2014, 11:10:26 pm
Yes, I was interested in that too. I had to go and sing in a church and having my phone on would have been inappropriate indeed. It was 3 - 3 when I went out, and I think that must have been in the second half (assuming that the BBC website was staying up to date) but at half-time in the concert I looked and saw the awful reality.

When I was born the score in matches between Wales and New Zealand was 3 - 1 to Wales. Wales haven't won since, so that must be my fault.

In my youth, I think 1972, I went to Cardiff and saw Wales beat Australia 20-odd to 0, which I believe remains a record between the sides. After the match I went to Cardiff station for my train back to college and overheard an old Australian bloke talking to a platform porter: "It's been an ambition all my life to see the Wallabies play in Cardiff," said he. I feel a bit like him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 November, 2014, 04:28:36 pm
The England team is playing at Wembley today for the first time. Apparently, England has never beaten Germany before, and it's not looking likely at the moment.

This is, of course, the Women's match. I understand that it's a sell-out, which is more than the men could manage last time they played.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on 26 November, 2014, 06:40:57 am
TLD played in her first interschool football match yesterday.

Her team came joint top (after 7 games), so they are through to the final.

Even more surprising, though, is that TLD was top tournement goal scorer!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on 30 November, 2014, 06:44:32 pm
Ms Marco played scrum half for Eastern Counties U18s against Essex this afternoon in Diss, ending 53-7, a bit of a rout. Some brilliant play by the girls though; they have some stand-out players. Essex had some players in only their first or second games, so they did okay and seemed to enjoy it despite the scoreline.

Some great rugby-playing make-up on display from the opposition; you can take the girls out of Essex, but...   ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 05 December, 2014, 09:49:45 pm
Blyth Spartans have beaten Hartlepool! ;D

(Sorry, Mrs Basil)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 06 December, 2014, 12:19:45 am
Even though both teams scored twice!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 06 December, 2014, 01:25:24 am
Even though both teams scored twice!

^^^
This!
 >:(

As usual, "Ned" Flinders was great, but the defence in front of him was total rubbish.  Really feel sorry for him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 07 December, 2014, 01:57:34 pm
Sheffield Wednesday v Manchester United 40 years ago today.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4PzNagIYAAq1E0.jpg)

The names of Manchester United players are all familiar, as are 6 of the Sheffield Wednesday lineup (and one of the linesmen Gilbert Napthine) but the name which leaps out at me is that of the Wednesday number 9. We were at school together, by which I don't mean just that we were at the same school at the same time , but were in the same form, did the same subjects, played for the same school and representative teams and travelled together for various trials. He once copied my Latin homework. A year after O levels, I was still playing school (and county) football, and he was scoring on his debut in a televised local derby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgASEbSYCKU&feature=youtu.be&a

He only played 11 times for Wednesday, but had 4 seasons at Darlington

Quote from: wikipedia
In December 1976, Ferguson scored the only goal of the game to eliminate his former club from the 1976–77 FA Cup. The goal, a powerful drive from a distance of anything from 30 to 50 yards (25 to 45 m), was voted best goal ever seen at Darlington's Feethams ground in a 2003 poll on the occasion of the ground's closure.

He ended his career in the Belgian lower leagues.

Remember him, Deano?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 07 December, 2014, 02:22:16 pm
Actually, no - I hadn't been born yet..

The best goal I saw at Feethams was Marco Gabbiadini chipping the keeper from within the 18-yard box.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 07 December, 2014, 09:27:59 pm
Actually, no - I hadn't been born yet..

Ouch!  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 December, 2014, 01:22:40 am
Over the weekend I took part in a Chess and Education conference at Olympia, where the London Chess Classic is taking place over the coming week. During the weekend there was a rapidplay tournament taking place, involving some of the world's top players.

It was the first time that I have seen quite a few of these players in action. Fabiana Caruana is the World no. 2 in longplay rating, behind Magnus Carlsen, who was not playing at the weekend. I have never seen such a dainty man. I would estimate that he was scarcely more than 5'2" and weighed considerably less than 9 stone. I watched him lose the penultimate round to Hikaru Nakamura, the tournament winner.

I had played quite a few of the top players years ago with mixed results. I used to pick Lawrence Trent for Essex when he was a junior and taught him quite a bit of chess in that time, but I don't think I ever played him in a tournament game. I've played Sadler and McShane (both draws) and lost to David Howell. I think I have a plus score against Nick Pert, former World u-20 champion, but it's hard to be sure: he has an identical twin brother and I have played them both over the years. It was quite gratifying to see Sadler draw with former World Champion Anand and Nakamura in consecutive rounds and McShane draw with another World Championship finalist Nigel Short in one of those rounds.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 22 January, 2015, 08:59:26 pm
It's 20 years since Eric Cantona got his boot laces caught on that man's shirt. Radio 5 Live are, for some reason, acting like seagulls following his trawler.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 January, 2015, 10:17:44 pm
It's 20 years since Eric Cantona got his boot laces caught on that man's shirt. Radio 5 Live are, for some reason, acting like seagulls following his trawler.

Funnily enough, that's precisely what I said to Mrs. Wow. We wouldn't normally listen to Radio 5 Live, but we have been at our daughter's house and her radio seems to default to that. In the afternoon there was another story involving a seagull as one was hit by a cricket ball at the MCG*, knocked unconscious for a while, but got better. I recall a similar incident a few years ago when Richie Benaud was commentating.

*Momentarily Comatose Gull
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 January, 2015, 10:30:44 pm
Ha bloody ha!

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 24 January, 2015, 11:07:06 pm
I'll forgive you for missing my earlier post elsewhere, WOw.

The football :o

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I just caught MotD. Bradford deserved it - but Boro utterly thrashed Man City!

What a day.
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Post by: Peter on 24 January, 2015, 11:44:55 pm
And Mourinho had  the grace to admit that he was embarrassed and that his players should be embarrassed, too - lessons there for the immature Mr Van Gaal.  Mind you, Jose has been a slow learner, earlier claiming that his Chelsea team were beaten not by Newcastle but by their ball-boys.

What a great day!

Dean, I'm imagining that Boro fielded a weakened team to protect their promotion push?!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 12 February, 2015, 01:05:21 pm
On Tuesday I made one of my rare visits to Calthorpe Park to watch Fleet Town lose 6-0 to Taunton Town in the Evo-Stick Southern League Division 1 South and West. Spectators were just about outnumbered by players and officials.

Rodney Marsh* scored a hat-trick for the visitors.

Amongst the players who have played for Fleet Town in the past are
- Leroy Rosenior (who was once manager of Torquay United for 10 minutes)
- Hans Segers (who in 1997 was cleared of match-fixing during his time as Wimbledon goalkeeper) and
- Clement Atlee**.

* No, not the ex QPR & Manchester City forward Rodney Marsh
** Yes, this Clement Atlee:
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/8de814c20f73b241caba2552b78f20131cdb2fa0.jpg)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 March, 2015, 09:24:34 pm
Bloody hell!  A Manchester United player has just been sent off!

At Old Trafford :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 10 March, 2015, 10:23:34 am
Bloody hell!  A Manchester United player has just been sent off!

At Old Trafford :o

He did have to grab hold of the referee to acheive it though
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 17 March, 2015, 10:13:00 pm
Hartlepool Utd have just played 2 away matches in 4 days.  Bloody hell!  6 points!  :D

On checking the table I see we've they've stormed up to
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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 March, 2015, 10:35:41 pm
Did they hang any gibbons?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 18 March, 2015, 12:32:24 am
No, that's home matches only - but I'm impressed that it's something you admit to knowing about!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 March, 2015, 06:30:57 am
High court judges are unto hanging.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 18 March, 2015, 10:39:20 am
You old beat combo, you!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 March, 2015, 06:06:41 pm
Not so much flogging though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 18 March, 2015, 08:13:44 pm
Time to invoke the dead horse, I trow!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 March, 2015, 12:31:02 am
Neigh, surely not!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 05 April, 2015, 08:36:56 pm
Amusing end to a football tournament

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations)

Gibraltar U16 vs Macedonia U16

Last match of the tournament - Macedonia take the the lead from a corner in the 91st minute and thinking they've done enough to win the tournament rush over to celebrate with the rest of their substitutes. Sadly they're all celebrating in their own half of the field allowing Gibraltar to take a quick kick off and run up the field score and win the tournament themselves.

Action from about 1:31 onwards
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 April, 2015, 07:53:39 am
Barney Gibson has retired from first class cricket. He is 19.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/03/barney-gibson-youngest-first-class-cricketer-retires
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 06 April, 2015, 10:21:31 am
It makes a nice headline but his original (only) remarkable appearance for the first team, and therefore in first-class cricket, was his only one and he effectively retired after that by not being quite good enough, I think.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 April, 2015, 12:00:08 pm
Indeed. It compares, not unfavourably, to the first class career of Geoffrey Charles Hurst.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 06 April, 2015, 12:06:37 pm
Indeed. It compares, not unfavourably, to the first class career of Geoffrey Charles Hurst.

But not quite on a par with that of Samuel Beckett.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 April, 2015, 01:32:53 pm
Well Beckett's career lasted twice as long and I would think his occupation of the crease much longer than the other two combined.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 06 April, 2015, 01:59:23 pm
Well Beckett's career lasted twice as long and I would think his occupation of the crease much longer than the other two combined.

Samuel Beckett's first-class stats. He stayed in long enough to score 35 runs.

Batting and fielding averages
              Mat  Inns   NO   Runs   HS   Ave   100   50   Ct   St
First-class   2     4      0   35   18   8.75   0      0     2      0
Bowling averages
           Mat   Balls   Runs   Wkts   BBI   BBM   Ave   Econ   SR   4w   5w   10
First-class   2   138     64      0      -      -      -      2.78   -   0   0   0


Beckett is the only first-class cricketer to have won a Nobel Prize. Or perhaps it should be the only Nobel Prize winner to have played first-class cricket.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 06 April, 2015, 02:12:23 pm
That compares pretty well with the current England one-day captain.  Of course, its a little early to say whether or not Morgan will get a Nobel Prize for his yet-to-be-announced autobiography "Leading From Behind".  I hope he manages to resurrect his career but not in an England shirt for a while.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 April, 2015, 06:08:37 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 07 April, 2015, 07:01:15 pm
Know Thy Enemy!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 07 April, 2015, 07:10:21 pm
Amusing end to a football tournament

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations)

Gibraltar U16 vs Macedonia U16

Last match of the tournament - Macedonia take the the lead from a corner in the 91st minute and thinking they've done enough to win the tournament rush over to celebrate with the rest of their substitutes. Sadly they're all celebrating in their own half of the field allowing Gibraltar to take a quick kick off and run up the field score and win the tournament themselves.

Action from about 1:31 onwards
Great story !!!

[is it legal to kickoff with [EDIT:]MORE THAN two players in the centre-circle?

They had 3 players in the circle - which is unusual, but probably not illegal. (stupid typo, sorry!)
]
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 07 April, 2015, 08:43:05 pm


[is it legal to kickoff with 2 players in the centre-circle?]


Yes, in fact it's the normal way.
AIUI the rules are

All players must be in their own half of the field
No opposition players in the centre circle
Player taking the kick off must kick the ball forward and can't touch it again until another player has touched it.

The ref doesn't have to check that both teams are ready for the kick off.

If Macedonia had been celebrating at the other dugout they would have been ok. In theory the ref could have stopped it because I think a couple of Macedonian subs were inside the field of play but he either didn't notice or played an advantage.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 07 April, 2015, 09:49:57 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)

Surely a typo, must be Ethnics or perhaps Essex.  Either would make more sense for FIFA than 'Ethics'.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 April, 2015, 10:48:46 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)

Yeth, it governth football in Chelmthford, Colchethter and Thouthend.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 08 April, 2015, 10:19:02 am


[is it legal to kickoff with [EDIT:]MORE THAN two players in the centre-circle?

They had 3 players in the circle - which is unusual, but probably not illegal. (stupid typo, sorry!)
]


I think so

"Kick-off
• after a team scores a goal, the kick-off is taken by the other team.
• all players must be in their own half of the field of play
• the opponents of the team taking the kick-off are at least 9.15 m (10 yds)
from the ball until it is in play
• the ball must be stationary on the centre mark
• the referee gives a signal
• the ball is in play when it is kicked and moves forward
• the kicker must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player"

From the Fifa website. Other websites mention the attacking team not having more than 2 players in the centre circle but from my interpretation of the above they are incorrect.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 April, 2015, 12:08:53 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)
Crossing the road with my son earlier today, he spotted an "Antifa"[scist] sticker on the pelican man. "Anti-FIFA???" he wondered, and maybe he wasn't wrong?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 08 May, 2015, 08:38:26 pm
Come on Boro!!! (Even if you have borrowed Leeds' kit for the night.)

Tomorrow is my real dilemna- Half of the Norwich team are ex-Leeds  and we lived in Canary land for a while, within shouting distance of Carrow Road.
 BUT Mrs. M is ITFC through and through so -Come on Tractor Boys !!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on 22 May, 2015, 10:27:54 am
FFS!

Chicago Blackhawks sailed through the first two rounds of the Stanley cup finals, the second round being a straight 4-0 rout.

Now they are playing Anaheim Ducks in the third round and they lose their third game (of 7) AT HOME!!!!! FFS.  Pull oyour bloody collective finger out or there will be a repeat of last year! :( GRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 30 May, 2015, 07:41:43 pm
I know they've been doingit for a few years, but I still think ARSEnal in blue and yellow is just WRONG.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 08 June, 2015, 02:52:01 pm
The bbc has a report on a woman setting off from japan in a bid to be the first woman to row solo across the Pacific.

No mention in the report of Sarah Outen at all, despite Sarah having completed a row from Japan to Alaska.

I accept that the new contender is being more purist, in that they are aiming for San Francisco, but Sarah should have got a mention.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 09 June, 2015, 08:41:47 pm
Oops!  ::-)

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/8/8748933/pat-venditte-switch-pitcher-newspaper-headline-amphibious-pitcher
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 June, 2015, 04:53:16 pm
My son's just been to his first professional football match. Real Madrid Legends v Liverpool Legends. We weren't sure what this would mean it practice; apparently (cos I'm still here in Big Island)  the legends included Zidane, Roberto Carlos, Dudek, Robbie Fowler, Ian Rush (this at least I had predicted!) and Michael Owen. Pretty good for 5 euros!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on 16 June, 2015, 09:14:15 am
YAY! For the third time in six seasons, The Chicago Blackhawks have won the Stanley Cup!!!

I am one happy little bunny...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 16 June, 2015, 10:07:23 am
And you are alone - well, in England, anyway!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 June, 2015, 10:15:19 am
I thought the Stanley Cup was a Blackpool & Fylde Crown Green Bowls trophy (current champions Kirkham Hamsters).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on 16 June, 2015, 10:25:40 am
I thought the Stanley Cup was a Blackpool & Fylde Crown Green Bowls trophy (current champions Kirkham Hamsters).

It may well be, but I am talking about it's more famous (at least in leftpondia) cousin, The Lord Stanley Cup, think of it as the FA Cup for Ice Hockey.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 June, 2015, 02:44:35 pm
Real 4 - 2 Liverpool.
Dudek and Owen both switched teams at half time, having played for both clubs in their careers. And then in the airport yesterday, they spotted Jerzy Dudek, had a chat and got his autograph. Apparently he is quite a talkative bloke.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 July, 2015, 03:02:30 pm
Sarah Outen has had the rudder torn off her boat. Bloody long way to row without being able to set a rudder.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 14 August, 2015, 07:26:03 pm
It's always the dream for clubs like Hartlepool to draw a premiership club in the second round of the League Cup.

Oh hang on.  Who?

WHO?
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Post by: Wowbagger on 14 August, 2015, 07:38:51 pm
Dunno Bas. Are you going to tell us? Or do I have to sully my computer looking at fupbol fixtures?
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Post by: Basil on 14 August, 2015, 08:01:26 pm
Sorry, I shouldn't have posted that.  Im not really into football, as you know.  I sometimes make the mistake of posting something and then regretting it as I don't have the knowledge to comment further.

My FiL and BiL are lifelong dedicated HardlyPoo Untied fans.  It's always been my wish that they one day draw a big midland club, like Apron Vanilla or someone, in a cup competition, so that I could get tickets for us all and have a good bonding w/e while we celebrate losing less than ten nil.

The draw against a top club finally happened.  Well nearly.  They've drawn Bourmouth.  Who to my surprise are indeed a premiership outfit.  But probably not what they had in mind.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 14 August, 2015, 08:02:44 pm
Bournemouth? Or Barmouth??  :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 14 August, 2015, 08:08:18 pm
Bugger.
Yes, Bournemouth.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 August, 2015, 08:08:47 pm
Bugger.
Yes, Bournemouth.

No, that was Bognor.
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Post by: Basil on 14 August, 2015, 08:09:53 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 August, 2015, 08:16:07 pm
I have just checked and I have to concur. There, indeed, is Bournemouth in the Premiership! The top three looked pretty unusual as well (Leicester, Crystal Palace, West Ham) until I noticed that a different colour blue at the very top was reserved for Manchester City.

Wouldn't it be a refreshing change if Leicester, Crystal Palace and West Ham were battling it out for the championship* at the end of the season?

*OK, I know that down to some misnomer the second division is now called the "Championship", but that is just silly.
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Post by: madcow on 20 September, 2015, 10:11:24 pm
I watched the whole of the GAA (Gaelic football)  final on Sky today. Fantastic,  fast moving game played in torrential rain , which made handling the ball tricky but also added to the spectacle.
I have never fully understood the rules of the game , still don't , but what a match.
Dublin beat Kerry.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 13 October, 2015, 01:34:01 pm
I shall be slightly less befuddled should I ever see another cricket match: cricket umpire signals explained (http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/07/08/cricket-umpire-signals-explained/).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 16 October, 2015, 05:46:26 pm
I'm watching* a football match between two Ukrainian clubs (Dynamo vs. Shakhtar).  One commentator is speaking in Ukrainian, the other in Russian.  If you hear a loud noise coming from the direction of East London that will be my head exploding.


* I'm multi-tasking at present, so mostly just listening.
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Post by: madcow on 28 October, 2015, 11:17:58 pm
Well done ,Boro.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 29 October, 2015, 12:22:01 am
Excellent!
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Post by: Basil on 07 November, 2015, 11:16:48 pm
Well, well.  So Hardlypoo Untied won their cup tie today.  Much joy in the town.
But hold.  Radio Five are talking of the draw for round two.   Consternation spreads through the evening streets.   "What is this Fa Cup round two of which they speak?  Have we not just won the FA Cup tie?  Are they saying we must play again?"

 ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 November, 2015, 11:30:46 pm
Southend Untied have successfully avoided the second round draw after a visit to Scunthorpe.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 07 November, 2015, 11:36:52 pm
Southend Untied have successfully avoided the second round draw after a visit to Scunthorpe.

Aka "We're concentrating on the League"
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 November, 2015, 02:15:17 pm
Easton Cowboys 0:1 Ashley
Bansky was not playing. At least, as far as I know.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 20 November, 2015, 09:38:41 am
Use of High-Tech Brooms Divides Low-Tech Sport of Curling (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/sports/facing-control-issues-curling-draws-line-at-high-tech-brooms.html)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 November, 2015, 06:17:26 pm
I just looked at the Premiership table for the first time for several weeks.

Leicester City? Really? That is quite amusing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 22 November, 2015, 08:07:39 pm
Not in ****ing Newcastle it isn't.  Absolutely not!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 November, 2015, 09:43:13 pm
I bet you'd have settled for Newcastle being only two places below Chelsea at this stage of the season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 22 November, 2015, 11:19:56 pm
Sure.  Crazy thing is we drew with both Chelsea and Manchester United early on.  We soon came to realise that most people actually beat Chelsea!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 December, 2015, 11:43:35 pm
For comedy value, Chelsea 0 - 1 Bournemouth takes a bit of beating.  ;D
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Post by: Pingu on 06 December, 2015, 09:47:30 pm
For comedy value, Chelsea 0 - 1 Bournemouth takes a bit of beating.  ;D

Because they're both associated with pensioners?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 14 December, 2015, 09:09:23 pm
One of the papers today reported that the chosen one was  desperate to narrow the gap between Chelsea and the top four.
On the basis of tonight's match they should be more worried about the distance between themselves and the bottom of the table.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 December, 2015, 10:20:26 pm
One of the papers today reported that the chosen one was  desperate to narrow the gap between Chelsea and the top four.
On the basis of tonight's match they should be more worried about the distance between themselves and the bottom of the table.

How splendid! Did anyone we know, perchance, put £5 on Leicester to win the league when they were 2000-1 outsiders? Sadly, I didn't. Long way to go, of course, but it is so refreshing to see the mega-clubs, with all their wealth and arrogance, being humbled by an "ordinary" side.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 December, 2015, 05:36:15 am
http://gu.com/p/4f4be?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

What a horribly misleading headline! I suppose the word "thong" has an alternative meaning in antipodean. I have to say that my immediate thought was "Do they inspect everyone who flies with them? And how awfully out of character for Mr. Pieterson to sport that sort of thing!"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 December, 2015, 11:07:48 am
A thong is a flip-flop. The sort you wear on your feet, not a fixie hub. Haven't read the headline so it might not refer to that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 December, 2015, 11:35:02 am
It does refer to a flip-flop. A thong is a minuscule item of underwear.

I have never heard of anyone referring to a flip-flop as a thong before. I don't know why they would. It's nothing like a thong.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 December, 2015, 11:39:49 am
It's Antipodean, as you said. I suppose because the strap that goes between your toes is a sort of thong. I don't know what word they use for what we call a thong but I do know that "a spunk" is a good looking man. What we'd call a hunk. Odd things, words.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 December, 2015, 11:52:36 am
They also use Durex for wrapping their Christmas presents.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 15 December, 2015, 12:19:53 pm
A thong ith wordth thet to muthic.   
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 15 December, 2015, 02:16:15 pm
thath jutht thilly
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 December, 2015, 04:37:45 pm
It's Antipodean, as you said. I suppose because the strap that goes between your toes is a sort of thong. I don't know what word they use for what we call a thong but I do know that "a spunk" is a good looking man. What we'd call a hunk. Odd things, words.

The Kyuss track "Thong Song" is also, perhaps surprisingly, a reference to the footwear and they're USAnian.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 December, 2015, 05:13:51 pm
PBC, m'lud?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 December, 2015, 08:57:47 pm
PBC thong is a thing.

(http://i3.cpcache.com/product/465841981/pbc_logo_classic_thong.jpg?color=White&height=460&width=460&qv=90)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 17 December, 2015, 03:35:37 pm
One of the papers today reported that the chosen one was  desperate to narrow the gap between Chelsea and the top four.
On the basis of tonight's match they should be more worried about the distance between themselves and the bottom of the table.

Not his problem any more - he's been sacked.  ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34670192
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 December, 2015, 03:52:23 pm
They also use Durex for wrapping their Christmas presents.
No they don't, that's a myth to mess up tourists. They use sticky tape and wrapping paper.

Australians called a particular type of flip-flop 'thongs' back in 1970. I think that pre-dated 'thong' as an item of underwear (weren't they called g-strings back then?).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 01 January, 2016, 06:56:37 pm
I'm currently watching Blues v Scarlets on S4C.  Which is nice, after the BBC's offering of Ospreys v Dragons earlier.
BUT, I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the rule that deems a failed attempt at an interception, however genuine, to be a deliberate knock on.
A Llanelli player almost made it, just failed and gets a yellow card.

WTF?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 01 January, 2016, 07:23:27 pm
I agree, Basil. There were a couple of examples of this in the World Cup and it's a very silly rule.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2016, 10:10:29 pm
I have just read that Shane Warne, appearing on some damned-fool reality television show, was involved in some antic which involved putting his face into a tank of snakes. He was bitten on the head by an anaconda.

Such a shame.
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Post by: Deano on 18 February, 2016, 10:36:01 pm
That's not the half of it, wow :(

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/14/shane-warnes-charity-under-investigation-claims-report
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2016, 10:40:57 pm
Perhaps that explains why the anaconda was feeling unwell afterwards.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 20 February, 2016, 07:07:39 am
I read that he has also postulated that the theory of evolution is bunk, and that we are all descended from aien invaders.  Not sure if that was pre- or post snake bite
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 February, 2016, 08:39:40 am
I never believe anything I read about Shane Warne. I think it's all just spin.

Yes, that's mine, the white umpiring jacket.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 20 February, 2016, 03:14:06 pm
I never believe anything I read about Shane Warne. I think it's all just spin.

Yes, that's mine, the white umpiring jacket.

I just found out he's finished with Elizabeth Hurley.  Only a few years ago he said she was "a Keeper".  Personally I thought her hands were too delicate for that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 01 March, 2016, 01:08:02 pm
I never believe anything I read about Shane Warne. I think it's all just spin.

Yes, that's mine, the white umpiring jacket.

I just found out he's finished with Elizabeth Hurley.  Only a few years ago he said she was "a Keeper".  Personally I thought her hands were too delicate for that.

Is he now trying to bowl a maiden over?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 March, 2016, 09:43:37 pm
Blimey!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 27 March, 2016, 09:37:26 am
Did ITV really treat the first and second halves to last night's foopball as separate episodes of a series or is Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.)'s PVR suffering from droid rot?  Coz the wretched thing recorded the pre-match waffle, the first half and the half-time waffle before switching itself off chiz >:(
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 27 March, 2016, 10:56:39 am
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 27 March, 2016, 11:07:37 am
Did ITV really treat the first and second halves to last night's foopball as separate episodes of a series or is Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.)'s PVR suffering from droid rot?  Coz the wretched thing recorded the pre-match waffle, the first half and the half-time waffle before switching itself off chiz >:(

You missed the best bit.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 27 March, 2016, 11:36:09 am
Indeed.  I know it's a game of two halves, Brian, but why anyone would only want to record half of it is a mystery to my Rugby-biased branez.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Von Broad on 27 March, 2016, 12:25:57 pm
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.

I seem to remember we had keeper problems of a different nature in that game too :-)

That was well enjoyable last night. Makes a change.
If everybody's fit [i'm not going there] Hodgson has lots of options in the summer.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 27 March, 2016, 02:34:58 pm
Come on Cambridge.  Let's have a 2-0 light blue wash.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 27 March, 2016, 02:39:10 pm
Boaty McBoatrace?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 27 March, 2016, 03:45:09 pm
Weather Drama in the wimmins race - opportinuty for the coxes to earn their pay travel expenses.

First time I've seen crews wrapped in space blankets as they disembark. Awesome contest.
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Post by: Basil on 27 March, 2016, 03:48:13 pm
Bugger.
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Post by: mattc on 27 March, 2016, 03:59:35 pm
oh, this is a spoiler thread is it. I hdant realised          :P

I'd rather have been on the wrong side of that contest than  this one:
www.eurosport.co.uk/rugby-league/oxford-crush-cambridge-in-varsity-match_sto5292524/story.shtml
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Post by: Wowbagger on 27 March, 2016, 06:04:05 pm
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.

I seem to remember we had keeper problems of a different nature in that game too :-)

That was well enjoyable last night. Makes a change.
If everybody's fit [i'm not going there] Hodgson has lots of options in the summer.
The biggest problem England had that day was Ramsey's decision to take Bobby Charlton off when England were 2 - 0 up. The Germans were terrified of him and in his absence they started to play football.

For his part, Charlton never played for England again.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Von Broad on 28 March, 2016, 02:24:56 am
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.

I seem to remember we had keeper problems of a different nature in that game too :-)

That was well enjoyable last night. Makes a change.
If everybody's fit [i'm not going there] Hodgson has lots of options in the summer.
The biggest problem England had that day was Ramsey's decision to take Bobby Charlton off when England were 2 - 0 up.

Manager's dilemma. Decisions are always going to be something of a gamble. Given the conditions [extreme heat] and Charlton being a senior player who you want fresh for the next game, and being 2-0 up, there was some logic to Ramsey's thinking.

I remember that tournament clear as daylight....it had quite an impact on me at the time....what with the hazy, grainy satellite images it was like watching something from another world.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 June, 2016, 08:10:21 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/22/swedish-footballer-sent-off-for-farting-during-match

Winding up the opposition?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 23 June, 2016, 08:19:32 am
Wilting flowers, that lot. If he had been a front-row forward there might have been a real reason, especially if he was playing downwind.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 June, 2016, 02:05:53 pm
The trouble is that when a front-row forward farts, the chief recipients are his own second row.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 23 June, 2016, 03:04:48 pm
Alas. In some circumstances it's difficult to aim.

I have heard of a penalty being awarded for blasphemy in the scrum, though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 June, 2016, 04:58:28 pm
Perhaps I was fortunate to go unpenalised.

When I was at college (many years ago!) our rugby pitch was alongside a tidal stream and was an area of partially-reclaimed salt marsh. At one end of the pitch it was - fragrant, as it were. I recall one scrum in which, as prop forward, my right foot cut a vertical furrow through the merde and I ended up flat on my face, covered with marshland. The referee and the rest of the players were so doubled up with laughter that when I informed my opposing loosehead that as much of my unwanted dressing as I could possibly manage was going to end up all over him at subsequent scrums everyone just took it as part of the fun.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 August, 2016, 08:01:34 pm
This is rather good, albeit from a fairly low level of rugby.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37048459
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 21 October, 2016, 03:53:54 am
RIP Gary Sprake. 500 + appearances for the mighty Whites under Don Revie and 30+ caps for Wales.
Not forgotten. MOT.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 21 October, 2016, 10:33:11 am
Certainly not forgotten, here.  Up there with Bruce Grobbelar as one of the most "accident-prone" goalies in British football.  I remember him hurling the ball into his own net once.  But he was a good goalie, nevertheless.  It's difficult to know just how good, though, because Leeds's outfield players usually maimed the opposition before they got anywhere near Sprake.  It was a horrid period.  It's a young age for a professional sportsman, so I wonder what the cause was.

RIP Gary - a great entertainer.

Ian Porterfield went too young, too - remember him?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 October, 2016, 10:42:43 am
Peter, that is a very mischievous last sentence!  ;D

But indeed, Sprake was a very good goalkeeper, most of the time. I seem to remember an entertainer, possibly Mike Yarwood, doing an impression of him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 21 October, 2016, 11:26:01 am
It is a pity that two or three mishaps defined Sprake and overshadowed what was a long and distinguished career.
It is beyond doubt that Revie would have dropped him immediately if he thought his overall performance was suspect. Sprake kept David Harvey on the bench even though Harvey was eventually capped by Scotland.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 21 October, 2016, 11:40:36 am
This is rather good, albeit from a fairly low level of rugby.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37048459

Not that low a level, Cambridge are in National 1.

Some great refereeing as well, I'm an ex-referee and spotted several penalty opportunities there, but he let Cambridge play their momentum.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 21 October, 2016, 11:46:50 am
It is a pity that two or three mishaps defined Sprake and overshadowed what was a long and distinguished career.
It is beyond doubt that Revie would have dropped him immediately if he thought his overall performance was suspect. Sprake kept David Harvey on the bench even though Harvey was eventually capped by Scotland.

Ah, David Harvey - he'll certainly remember Ian Porterfield.  The opposing goalkeeper was Jim Montgomery, who was better than either of them and it's a shame his career coincided with that of Gordon Banks.

But Gary was certainly good.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 October, 2016, 12:20:56 pm
It is a pity that two or three mishaps defined Sprake and overshadowed what was a long and distinguished career.
It is beyond doubt that Revie would have dropped him immediately if he thought his overall performance was suspect. Sprake kept David Harvey on the bench even though Harvey was eventually capped by Scotland.

I think most goalkeepers are remembered for the howlers they make. I have a memory, which may be inaccurate, of Sprake pulling off an amazing save from a Francis Lee penalty in one international match. There were few footballers who put as much welly into their penalties as Lee, and IIRC this one, after Sprake got a fist to it, hit the underside of the bar twice before finally rolling to safety.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 October, 2016, 12:29:12 pm
RIP Gary Sprake. 500 + appearances for the mighty Whites under Don Revie and 30+ caps for Wales.
Not forgotten. MOT.
Confused here. What does MOT mean in this context?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 21 October, 2016, 12:34:16 pm
Marching On Together. The title of a song that the  Leeds players recorded before the 1972 FA Cup Final.
It was the "B" side to "Leeds United". 
It's played before every home match and is the not so  secret sign off for LUFC fans.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 October, 2016, 01:13:31 pm
Thanks, I might go and see if I can find it on Youtube. It can't be any worse than the song Rod Hull and Emu made for Bristol Rovers' promotion to the Second Division in 1974 (that is on youtube, but you really don't want to hear it).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2016, 10:39:08 pm
Darlo have been having some good results:

http://darlingtonfootballclub.co.uk/fixtures-results/

(take note of October the 15th, Nuncio and Salvatore ;D)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jakob on 03 November, 2016, 06:55:42 pm
The Cubs win the World Series for the first time in 108 years!. One of the best games of baseball I've ever seen.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 November, 2016, 08:19:59 pm
I find it quite astonishing how the US continues to dominate world baseball.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jakob on 03 November, 2016, 09:57:14 pm
Even in 1887, the sports press were prone to hyperbole and the name stuck around.
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~rickert/BB/wsname.html

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 November, 2016, 10:44:15 pm
Legia Warszawa drawing 3-3 with Real in any empty stadium deserves some kind of  :o and possibly a bit of  :D. We'll see what happens in the Bernabeu though!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 04 November, 2016, 10:25:56 am
I find it quite astonishing how the US continues to dominate world baseball.

Be fair, Wowsa.  The Toronto Blue Jays have won the World Series at least once.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 November, 2016, 01:45:03 pm
I became aware last week that the World Chess Championship final is taking place in New York, between Carlsen and Karjakin. There have been three games so far, all drawn.

For the first game, defending champion Carlsen chose the Trompovski Attack, an unusual opening at this level. Interviewed afterwards, he said that it was because he is a great admirer of Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Karjakin (who sounds to me like a character from Grand Theft Auto) is a Putin fan*.

The human brain is a curious organ. At once, these two brain-owners can develop theirs to pretty much the highest level possible, whilst remaining remarkably stupid.

*Of course, he would be stupid to say anything different, given that he's Russian. Carlsen, being a Norwegian, has a choice.
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 November, 2016, 01:59:23 pm
Wowbagger's account has been hacked! The chess talk is convincing but the real Wowbagger would never have heard of Grand Theft Auto.  :o ::-) :D :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 November, 2016, 04:36:48 pm
Wowbagger's account has been hacked! The chess talk is convincing but the real Wowbagger would never have heard of Grand Theft Auto.  :o ::-) :D :o

Au contraire, I have sons who play computer games. My younger son used to do this A Lot. Unreal Tournament was his forte (he got to a double-figure placement in the World Rankings at one time) but I think he used to play GTA for light relief.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Dibdib on 22 November, 2016, 12:48:17 pm
For those who enjoy American Football but don't have the ridiculously expensive Sky Sports packages to watch it, Sky are doing their occasional thing of putting a free game on Freeview this Thursday for Thanksgiving - Minnesota Vikings @ Detroit Lions, Pick TV, 5:30pm.
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Post by: trekker12 on 22 November, 2016, 04:02:22 pm
Should be a good game that one. Detroit are playing better than they have for many years. Minnesota should have walked away with the NFC North by now based on how poorly (my team) the Packers are playing but with several serious injuries (not least to the starting quarterback before the season started) they have struggled. So for once I'm rooting for the Lions having given up all hope the Packers will make the Play-offs
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Post by: Dibdib on 22 November, 2016, 09:22:32 pm
Yeah I'm a Packers fan too and I've given up as well. My only saving grace is that my best mate is a Bears fan, so I can still give him a ribbing  :demon:
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Post by: Andrij on 22 November, 2016, 10:14:26 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:
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Post by: Basil on 22 November, 2016, 10:20:48 pm
Woof woof!
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Post by: trekker12 on 23 November, 2016, 08:23:17 am
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

That's great. I'm cheering for the Browns every time they appear on Sky's Redzone. Has anyone ever had 0-16?

What's the opposite of a perfect season called?
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Post by: Andrij on 23 November, 2016, 09:00:05 am
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.
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Post by: Dibdib on 23 November, 2016, 01:38:36 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I'm so sorry.

 :demon:

Small consolation but it's not even like the Browns are playing like a 0-11 team, as far as I've seen. They just seem to be suffering a lot of bad luck.
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Post by: LEE on 23 November, 2016, 01:56:12 pm
The Cubs win the World Series for the first time in 108 years!. One of the best games of baseball I've ever seen.

I saw a Minnesota Twins game where nobody scored a run for 6 innings.

To be honest Baseball and (American) Football struck me as vast participation eating events where, very occasionally, there was 5 seconds of frantic action.

Cricket gets a bad rap from the Americans but it's genuinely no slower or duller.  Watching Baseball and Football on UK TV shields you from the incessant commercial breaks which put the live game on hold, until the umpire gets a "Go" from the TV director.  It's unbearable.

Local Baseball (Rochester Aces in my case) is much better.  It's not televised so they are allowed to keep playing without waiting 3 minutes for the commercials to end.
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Post by: rafletcher on 23 November, 2016, 02:08:31 pm
  Watching Baseball and Football on UK TV shields you from the incessant commercial breaks which put the live game on hold, until the umpire gets a "Go" from the TV director.  It's unbearable.


Agreed, and far too much time for those bloody "Mexican" waves.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 23 November, 2016, 03:37:00 pm
  Watching Baseball and Football on UK TV shields you from the incessant commercial breaks which put the live game on hold, until the umpire gets a "Go" from the TV director.  It's unbearable.


Agreed, and far too much time for those bloody "Mexican" waves.

Never mind! Donald Trump will put a stop to those.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: trekker12 on 23 November, 2016, 04:42:05 pm
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.

Having been to Wembley for the NFL for the past three years I find the TV interuptions go pretty much unnoticed. There's a smoothness to it that is not seen on TV in the UK because it goes to the studio and you get three minutes of talking heads. Three minutes is fairly extreme, I think in NFL they have got a fine art of chucking in a single advert during each game break (and they are less often than most non-fans realise). For the longer breaks - between quarters and two minute warnings etc they send a band or a troop of cheerleaders on to entertain. It's a good day out.

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Post by: Wowbagger on 24 November, 2016, 03:31:49 pm
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/8

After 7 consecutive draws, Karjakin won the 8th game with black.

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/8

The 9th was also drawn, so Carlsen is in serious trouble. He has three more games in which to get back into this.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 25 November, 2016, 12:08:23 am
THe Kibitzers reckon this one is going to be drawn. At time of this post, White (Carlsen) had just played 51 f3.

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/10
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Post by: Wowbagger on 25 November, 2016, 10:31:17 am
Blimey! Carlsen managed to convert that to a win! Well done him! 1 - 1, 2 games to go.

Annoyingly, if they finish the first 12 games with the scores level, remaining games are at a much faster time limit.

https://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/regulations_match_2016.pdf refers.
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Post by: mattc on 25 November, 2016, 11:34:28 am
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.
What are your feelings about chess?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 25 November, 2016, 11:44:54 am
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.

Having been to Wembley for the NFL for the past three years I find the TV interuptions go pretty much unnoticed. There's a smoothness to it that is not seen on TV in the UK because it goes to the studio and you get three minutes of talking heads. Three minutes is fairly extreme, I think in NFL they have got a fine art of chucking in a single advert during each game break (and they are less often than most non-fans realise). For the longer breaks - between quarters and two minute warnings etc they send a band or a troop of cheerleaders on to entertain. It's a good day out.

An average professional (American) football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes.

The average NFL game includes 20 commercial breaks containing more than 100 ads. The Journal’s analysis found that commercials took up about an hour, or one-third, of the game.
- Wall Street Journal.

I'd say that reflects my experience of watching it in the US.  Lots of standing around by players, lots of time spent changing teams (Offensive to defensive and vice-versa, plus Kicking teams).  Penalty flags and referrals to TV umpires on almost every single play.

I watched a couple of live games and one on TV.  The best way to watch it is via a Highlights show on TV, that cuts out everything but the 11 minutes of interest.

It's a game where the role of 75% of the massive players is to lunge forward 6 feet and fall on an equally massive person lunging the other way.  I mean that's all they do.  They make Rugby's Brian Moore look like a Ballet Dancer by comparison.

Netflix has, very quickly, changed American attitudes to the necessity of commercials during programs and NFL viewing is in serious decline..possibly because of this.
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Post by: citoyen on 25 November, 2016, 12:02:38 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I don't follow the sport any more but I just checked the standings... Crumbs!

Last time I paid any attention to gridiron, the Browns were quite a decent team. Mind you, there were only six divisions in those days and the Raiders were still based in LA.

I'm nominally a Miami Dolphins fan - have been ever since my dad brought me back a Dolphins T-shirt from a business trip to the US some time in the late 70s. I was around 6-7 at the time. I see they're currently sitting in what might be termed comfortable mid-table obscurity. When I visited Miami aged 16 we didn't get to see the Dolphins play as they were on the road that week but we did go to a Gators game at the Orange Bowl, which was brilliant - fast and furious compared to NFL, and with a lot more interesting tactical play (less cagey, more adventurous). I think the whole match was over inside 90 minutes.
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Post by: Andrij on 25 November, 2016, 12:10:31 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I don't follow the sport any more but I just checked the standings... Crumbs!

If you're bored, take a look at how many quarterbacks we've burned through in the last few years.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 27 November, 2016, 10:09:40 pm
50 years ago this month I was on the terraces with my dad watching this game.
https://youtu.be/Y4VQCysLRTo
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Post by: Wowbagger on 27 November, 2016, 10:50:05 pm
What is that dirty mark down the front of the Arsenal players' shirts? It looks as though they have put them on back to front and ridden a bike with no mudguards.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: trekker12 on 29 November, 2016, 04:44:44 pm
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.

Having been to Wembley for the NFL for the past three years I find the TV interuptions go pretty much unnoticed. There's a smoothness to it that is not seen on TV in the UK because it goes to the studio and you get three minutes of talking heads. Three minutes is fairly extreme, I think in NFL they have got a fine art of chucking in a single advert during each game break (and they are less often than most non-fans realise). For the longer breaks - between quarters and two minute warnings etc they send a band or a troop of cheerleaders on to entertain. It's a good day out.

An average professional (American) football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes.

The average NFL game includes 20 commercial breaks containing more than 100 ads. The Journal’s analysis found that commercials took up about an hour, or one-third, of the game.
- Wall Street Journal.

I'd say that reflects my experience of watching it in the US.  Lots of standing around by players, lots of time spent changing teams (Offensive to defensive and vice-versa, plus Kicking teams).  Penalty flags and referrals to TV umpires on almost every single play.

I watched a couple of live games and one on TV.  The best way to watch it is via a Highlights show on TV, that cuts out everything but the 11 minutes of interest.

It's a game where the role of 75% of the massive players is to lunge forward 6 feet and fall on an equally massive person lunging the other way.  I mean that's all they do.  They make Rugby's Brian Moore look like a Ballet Dancer by comparison.

Netflix has, very quickly, changed American attitudes to the necessity of commercials during programs and NFL viewing is in serious decline..possibly because of this.

Include in that rather limited statistical analysis. Half an hour for half time (1+ hour for superbowl half time show), ten minutes for each change of quarter and I tend to agree. My point was the live show is better than the TV, when you are there it seems to flow much better because it's not broken by TV adverts.

And 11 minutes of action is impossible. The clock is only running when there is action going on and that has to be 60 minutes. It is stopped during TV referals and penalty decisions - during which US TV goes to an ad break. So although at points it runs whilst players are in the huddle it's definitely not 49 minutes of players being in the huddle - which is also all part of the tactics by the way.

I will however, suggest you watch a game before judging so much. The subtle nuances of what's going on in the middle of the pack far outweigh the brute strength of a rugby maul (I like Rugby too by the way). the tactical switching of position, the skill required to catch a ball in bounds whilst momentum and a cornerback are trying to prevent you getting your feet down. All rolled into a show.

I'd rather sit through 3.5 hours of an NFL game than 90 minutes (plus half time) of a soccer match but we are all different.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 01 December, 2016, 08:51:33 pm
I see that Carlsen successfully defended his title. I haven't seen the decisive games yet, but in the rapidplay tie-breaker he won 2 - 0 with 1 drawn.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 03 December, 2016, 08:50:12 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D
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Post by: runsoncake on 07 December, 2016, 12:31:33 pm
50 years ago this month I was on the terraces with my dad watching this game.
https://youtu.be/Y4VQCysLRTo

I missed that match but was there 6 weeks later when the Owls marmalised Chelsea 6 - 1.
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Post by: Andrij on 08 December, 2016, 01:29:57 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D

And the organiser has now met with city officials, permits have been filed, etc. (http://fox8.com/2016/12/07/plans-for-cleveland-browns-perfect-season-parade-move-forward/)  Thousands are now counting on the team to make this happen.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: trekker12 on 09 December, 2016, 12:47:43 pm
There's going to be a lot of disappointment if that doesn't happen.

Not sure the team will want to start throwing games though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 09 December, 2016, 02:47:49 pm
The IOC have voted to recognize cheerleading as a sport. :facepalm:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 09 December, 2016, 02:59:22 pm
The IOC have voted to recognize cheerleading as a sport. :facepalm:
2016 continues to deliver
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Post by: mattc on 09 December, 2016, 06:36:56 pm
As if corruption and drugs scandals aren't making the Olympics look stupid enough  ::-)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 11 December, 2016, 09:47:36 pm
50 years ago this month I was on the terraces with my dad watching this game.
https://youtu.be/Y4VQCysLRTo

I missed that match but was there 6 weeks later when the Owls marmalised Chelsea 6 - 1.

You picked the right game for goals.

The Spurs 1-0 game was the third we'd seen at Hillsborough. The other  were 0-0 draws against Nottingham Forest and West Ham.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 24 December, 2016, 09:25:21 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D

And the organiser has now met with city officials, permits have been filed, etc. (http://fox8.com/2016/12/07/plans-for-cleveland-browns-perfect-season-parade-move-forward/)  Thousands are now counting on the team to make this happen.  :thumbsup:

The barstewards have ruined a perfect season by winning a game.  >:(
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 January, 2017, 01:57:15 pm
York City fooball club have outdone themselves by losing to North Ferriby (a village team from near the humber)

This is the same football club that would like the council to stump up xx million for a new stadium.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 03 January, 2017, 02:20:01 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D

And the organiser has now met with city officials, permits have been filed, etc. (http://fox8.com/2016/12/07/plans-for-cleveland-browns-perfect-season-parade-move-forward/)  Thousands are now counting on the team to make this happen.  :thumbsup:

The barstewards have ruined a perfect season by winning a game.  >:(

Then they nearly made it two on the bounce but somehow contrived to retain their first choice draft pick.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 03 January, 2017, 03:26:47 pm
York City fooball club have outdone themselves by losing to North Ferriby (a village team from near the humber)

This is the same football club that would like the council to stump up xx million for a new stadium.
That really is quite splendid. I didn't know which league they were in. A couple of seasons ago they were vying with Saarfend in some league division or another.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 03 January, 2017, 09:23:03 pm
There is a bit of a game taking place at the Vitality* Stadium.

*No, I'd never heard of it either.
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Post by: Basil on 03 January, 2017, 09:33:43 pm
I remember York, Darlo and HardlyPoo Untied all being in league Division Bottom.  I stopped off in York for a pint the time I rode up from Brum to watch a couple of Easter matches.  I fell into company, as you do, with a bunch who, although deemed me a complete wanker for being a Pools fan, insisted on supplying me with many pints for the riding there thing.   :D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 January, 2017, 11:23:49 pm
A good result today for League 1 Millwallies, who beat Premiership Bournemouth 3 - 0 int'cup.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 January, 2017, 10:04:27 am
16 groups of 3 in the 2026 World Cup. And then presumably 2 out of 3 go through to the next round? It doesn't sound too rigorous. And it's going to need a lot of venues.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 January, 2017, 10:42:27 am
I suppose it will need half the venues of 16 groups of 4, but the same number of rounds.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 January, 2017, 10:48:06 am
And a new shiny Confederations Cup with 32 clubs every two years. I can see that being good for the smaller confederations but getting a bit of a drag for Europe and LAm.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 16 January, 2017, 07:05:37 am
Brian Fletcher ,who died late last week ,was one of only 3 jockies who won the Grand National three times.
He was won on Red Rum twice , but was replaced by Tommy Stack when RR completed the hat-trick.
He was a very distant relative of mine, by marriage.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: trekker12 on 17 January, 2017, 09:24:18 am
having given up all hope the Packers will make the Play-offs

Seems I wrote them off too early
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 January, 2017, 08:07:23 pm
In some magazine in the hairdressers I read about Forest Green Rovers planned new all-wood, eco-friendly stadium. Which won't be in Forest Green. The mock up made it look rather larger than the 5,000 capacity stated in the text.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Vince on 06 February, 2017, 08:46:13 am
Watching the American Football this morning, I gave up trying to stay awake at end of the third quarter with the score a fairly dominant 28 - 3 to Atlanta...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 06 February, 2017, 11:01:32 am
Watching the American Football this morning, I gave up trying to stay awake at end of the third quarter with the score a fairly dominant 28 - 3 to Atlanta...

I went to bed at the two minute warning in the first half. It was a bit of a shock when I checked the BBC sport website this morning.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 06 February, 2017, 11:06:16 am
Watching the American Football this morning, I gave up trying to stay awake at end of the third quarter with the score a fairly dominant 28 - 3 to Atlanta...

(stolen off Twitter)

Best first half performance by Atlanta since Gone with the Wind.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: trekker12 on 06 February, 2017, 11:16:17 am
I went to bed at half time and put the radio on. I was awoken at around 3am by some very excitable commentary. Was quite a shock. Amazing game. The wrong team won though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 06 February, 2017, 11:41:41 am
(also stolen off Twitter)

Atlanta hasn't taken it in the shorts this bad since General Sherman taught some lessons.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 06 February, 2017, 11:49:49 am
Spesh, do you think you could change your avatar?  it's pretty upsetting to have to look at that everytime you post!

Peter
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 16 February, 2017, 08:21:58 am
My dad is having a birthday with a 0 at the end this year, so I've pushed the boat out and got tickets to take him to Eng v SA at the Oval.

Had hoped to go on the Saturday but the Surrey online booking office doesn't have two tickets together anywhere in the ground for Saturday.

Found tickets available from Viagogo. Cheapest ones were £120 but that's not too much of a markup on the face value so pop them in the basket and click checkout...

Whoa! That's £120 EACH?!?!??!! And that's before all the extra 'booking fees' and postage charges? Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Ended up going back to the Surrey website and getting tickets for the Thursday (day 1) - much better tickets, in fact, for about half the price.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 27 February, 2017, 02:16:37 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/02/27/crystal-palace-fans-accidentally-vandalise-team-bus/

Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs thinks that instead of travelling to Middlesbrough to vandalise their team bus, they should stay at home and vandalise their own.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 February, 2017, 11:53:04 pm
Bristol Rovers have drawn their last 5 games.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 04 March, 2017, 09:35:31 am
RIP John "Jack" Hampshire-the first English batsman to score a century on his Test debut at Lords.
A player in the great Yorkshire side that won the County Championship for 3 years on the trot in the late 60's, he scored 21,979 runs in games for the county.



Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 March, 2017, 09:36:56 pm
I remember that innings. He looked very good and it was a great disappointment that that innings constituted more than 25% of his career test total.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 March, 2017, 06:07:10 pm
I thought it was amusing the way Laura Muir dodged the official to do her lap of honour in Belgrade the other day. And bizarre that it was reported as a thing on Polish news but I haven't seen it here.  ???
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 08 March, 2017, 01:07:46 pm
I thought it was amusing the way Laura Muir dodged the official to do her lap of honour in Belgrade the other day. And bizarre that it was reported as a thing on Polish news but I haven't seen it here.  ???
Was this an Olympic race?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 March, 2017, 01:23:47 pm
34th European Athletics Indoor Championships, apparently, though it looked outside to me. Maybe they had a roof over the arena though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 08 March, 2017, 02:41:29 pm
It's very unusual for British news to cover anything below World Championships in Athletics. Even rarer for indoor stuff.

(Unless there's a doping allegation  ::-)  )
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 08 March, 2017, 09:16:51 pm
It was covered on BBC news and then later on more coverage of the championshps
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 09 March, 2017, 11:28:01 am
It was covered on BBC news and then later on more coverage of the championshps
Any comment on this Cudzo?
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 March, 2017, 12:25:39 pm
Good!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 March, 2017, 03:51:50 pm
We don't have a thread for "Weird and macabre sports things that don't really warrant a thread of their own" so this will have to go here.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/10/bruno-goalkeeper-murder-brazil-comeback

I have read some weird, disturbing shit in my time on this planet, but that one is way up their with the weirdest and most disturbing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 11 March, 2017, 04:28:04 pm
Why do commentators always refer to some sports person's leg or wrist or whatever as being "heavily strapped"?  It never looks more than just strapping to me.  Seems impossible for anyone to say strapping or strapped without the word heavy or heavily.
Owen Farrell today.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 06 April, 2017, 04:43:30 pm
The Masters starts today  :thumbsup:

I put me a couple of quid on Rory, I reckon he can complete the slam...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 06 April, 2017, 08:36:10 pm
Why do commentators always refer to some sports person's leg or wrist or whatever as being "heavily strapped"?  It never looks more than just strapping to me.  Seems impossible for anyone to say strapping or strapped without the word heavy or heavily.
Owen Farrell today.

Yes, it's like weather forecasts: you never get spots without spits or mist without mirk (or forecast without wrong).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 10 April, 2017, 12:38:21 am
The Masters starts today  :thumbsup:

I put me a couple of quid on Rory, I reckon he can complete the slam...

I'm so, so happy that Sergio has finally won a major. Top lad :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 April, 2017, 09:22:34 pm
My son in law has few faults, but one of those he does have is to be a Chelsea supporter. However, I am prepared to go some way towards forgiving him this as it led to me watching a good deal of today's FA Cup semifinal, which I would have otherwise ignored. An excellent game including two outstanding goals, Tottenham's second being the best I have seen for a long time.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 22 April, 2017, 11:51:26 pm
112 years in the Football League and it's farewell to Leyton Orient, thanks entirely to their dicknozzle owner.  My grate frend Mr Sheen, an Os fan since forever, is about to commit murder.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 23 April, 2017, 10:37:56 am
112 years in the Football League and it's farewell to Leyton Orient, thanks entirely to their dicknozzle owner.  My grate frend Mr Sheen, an Os fan since forever, is about to commit murder.

Leyton Orient: a club in decline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zif0NAM_Fws). All you need to know in 4 minutes 50 seconds.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 23 April, 2017, 10:57:14 am
112 years in the Football League and it's farewell to Leyton Orient, thanks entirely to their dicknozzle owner.  My grate frend Mr Sheen, an Os fan since forever, is about to commit murder.

Looks like Hartle poo Untied will be joining them.  Desperately sad for my FiL, lifetime.....blah blah blah

Won't be their first time though.  One of Hartlepool's "Honours" is - Most re-elections to the old fourth division.

For younger viewers, in the olden days, the bottom club in the 4th was relegated (one only, in those days), but there was no automatic promotion into the league.  Instead, a vote was held by the football league chairmen on who should be promoted.  Very often, this would be the same club that had supposedly been 'relegated'.1
Old boys networks and brown envelopes stuffed with promises, no doubt.

1 I believe this is how it worked in general.  I haven't actually checked it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 April, 2017, 08:08:08 pm
It was known as "seeking re-election" and mostly IIRC it was Newport County.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 23 April, 2017, 08:27:59 pm
You sure?  Hardly Poo peeps seem to think that they hold the record.
Again, I can't​ be arsed to check the validity of this claim.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 April, 2017, 08:31:41 pm
No, I am not at all sure. But they always seemed to be Down There, alongside Bradford Park Avenue.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 April, 2017, 08:38:07 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-election_(Football_League)#Fourth_Division

Much more interesting geekiness than knowing FA Cup winners.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 23 April, 2017, 09:35:51 pm
The house across the road from me appears to be on fire! It also has a Fire Engine outside.

Moved to appropriate thread
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 April, 2017, 09:50:41 pm
The house across the road from me appears to be on fire! It also has a Fire Engine outside.

Is fire raising classed as a sport in Cumbria?  :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 23 April, 2017, 10:07:27 pm
Well it was one of the 'random thread for' threads family. Pretty close for someone who's too lazy to read the thread titles ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 April, 2017, 09:40:29 am
One of my schoolfriends was a Hartelpool fan (no idea why) and he told me the same fact[?] about re-election. That was waaaaaaaaaay back in the 1980s so it must be some sort of ur ban leg end by now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 24 April, 2017, 04:01:08 pm
The house across the road from me appears to be on fire! It also has a Fire Engine outside.

Is fire raising classed as a sport in Cumbria?  :P

Someone mentioned Arson and he thought they were referring to the Arsenal manager perhaps.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 24 April, 2017, 04:46:49 pm
For younger viewers, in the olden days, the bottom club in the 4th was relegated (one only, in those days), but there was no automatic promotion into the league.  Instead, a vote was held by the football league chairmen on who should be promoted.  Very often, this would be the same club that had supposedly been 'relegated'.1
Old boys networks and brown envelopes stuffed with promises, no doubt.

1 I believe this is how it worked in general.  I haven't actually checked it.

I have mixed feelings about the election system. I grew up supporting Maidstone United and was gutted when they failed to get elected to the league after winning the Conference in 1984. It seemed most unjust to the 11yo me!

After that, a new owner came in and spent a few quid on players, as well as promising to build a swanky new ground. Unfortunately, he never got planning permission for it, but this didn't stop him selling off the old ground to developers.

By the time they won the title again in 1989, the system had changed to automatic promotion, so they were guaranteed a place in the Fourth Division. And they managed to stay there for three years. However, this was only achieved with reckless spending by the owner. Add to that the fact that they were playing their home games at Dartford and it's amazing the club survived as long as it did - folded in 1992.

Looking back on it, I feel the election system might have kept the club where it belonged, in the Conference, and maybe prevented the owner from overreaching himself.

There's no doubt the system was hugely corrupt though!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 April, 2017, 05:04:48 pm
This is the issue currently facing Saarfend, and has done so for 20 years or more. Rapacious owner with very dodgy background wants to build a supermarket on the existing ground's site and build a 26000 seat stadium out of town. The ground's current site is within easy walking distance of lots of housing whereas the proposed site is quite a distance from any housing. Besides, it must be quite a few years since Southend attracted a crowd in excess of 10000. I feel sure that any new stadium, unless built on the existing site, would be the death of the club.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 24 April, 2017, 05:28:09 pm
This is the issue currently facing Saarfend, and has done so for 20 years or more. Rapacious owner with very dodgy background wants to build a supermarket on the existing ground's site and build a 26000 seat stadium out of town. The ground's current site is within easy walking distance of lots of housing whereas the proposed site is quite a distance from any housing. Besides, it must be quite a few years since Southend attracted a crowd in excess of 10000. I feel sure that any new stadium, unless built on the existing site, would be the death of the club.

Brighton & Hove FC did OK after moving out of the city to the outskirts. 
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 April, 2017, 06:13:42 pm
This is the issue currently facing Saarfend, and has done so for 20 years or more. Rapacious owner with very dodgy background wants to build a supermarket on the existing ground's site and build a 26000 seat stadium out of town. The ground's current site is within easy walking distance of lots of housing whereas the proposed site is quite a distance from any housing. Besides, it must be quite a few years since Southend attracted a crowd in excess of 10000. I feel sure that any new stadium, unless built on the existing site, would be the death of the club.

Brighton & Hove FC did OK after moving out of the city to the outskirts.

I just looked at a map. Brighton's new ground is very close to a station and a major dual carriageway. Southend's existing ground has those advantages but the proposed site does not.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 April, 2017, 06:32:17 pm
It's a similar story with Bristol Rovers, who wanted to sell their present ground, which was built as a memorial to rugby players killed in the First World War, to Sainsburys and build a newer bigger slicker one further out of town, though still in north Bristol. When Big S failed to get planning permission for their vendodrome they were able to cancel the deal, leaving the Pirates all at sea, or at least stuck in the same old stadium with the same empty pockets.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 24 April, 2017, 06:34:02 pm
Brighton & Hove FC did OK after moving out of the city to the outskirts.

Up to a point, Lord Copper. They very nearly went under in similar circumstances to Maidstone in the late 90s, and it was only a rich fan (Dick Knight) stepping in to buy the club that saved them from liquidation.

The old board had sold off the Goldstone before Knight took over, to service the massive debts they had racked up - though I doubt it would have been fit to continue playing football there much longer anyway. I remember it already being in a pretty appalling state when I went to see the FA Cup match there between Brighton and Liverpool in 1983(?). They didn't get the new stadium until 2011. Before that, they'd played a couple of seasons at Gillingham's ground, and then moved to the Withdean, which was a converted athletics stadium and barely fit to host professional football matches. It's incredible that they managed to avoid going under, and largely down to two reasons: Bobby Zamora and Peter Taylor.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 April, 2017, 11:05:05 pm
http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/shocking-footage-shows-thousands-of-white-people-chasing-group-of-black-men-around-london/

Superb!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 02 May, 2017, 12:54:40 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/01/seductive-dress-forces-girl-to-quit-malaysia-chess-tournament-coach-says.html

(now, obviously I had a small titter about this at first glance, but it's actually quite a sad story - she's only 12  :-\ )
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 May, 2017, 01:09:28 pm
That's a really sad story and I suspect there is either a terribly misogynistic or religious background to this.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 May, 2017, 10:28:44 am
I can't speak for Malaysian chess, but the misogyny in British chess was one of the principle reasons my daughters don't play any more.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on 06 May, 2017, 01:14:52 pm
Marathon in two hours, I can't cycle that fast!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 06 May, 2017, 05:26:44 pm
Turns out they can't run that fast, either!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 May, 2017, 09:01:20 am
I see that Exeter beat Wasps to win a rugby final and that Tomos Francis was a key player in Exeter's victory. He a relative of yours, isn't he, pcolbeck?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 29 May, 2017, 05:26:52 pm
Come ON Town!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 29 May, 2017, 05:35:51 pm
Come ON Town!

Wot?
Oh, I see.
Reading is the only football team that I negatively support.  I never want them to get into the higher divisions because my aged mum lives there and would prefer less crowds on a Saturday.
Although, to be fair, as she is now 93, she doesn't do the hanging about in town on a Saturday so much these days.  So it probably doesn't matter so much now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 29 May, 2017, 06:00:24 pm
There you go.   :thumbsup:
Glad I could help.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 29 May, 2017, 06:02:18 pm
Thanks Basil. Another Happy Terrier here too :D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 29 May, 2017, 07:57:02 pm
They stole our kit.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 21 July, 2017, 04:16:29 pm
I notice Thomas Pieters is moving up the leaderboard quite nicely at The Open. I rather hope he continues, as if he wins I will win a grand from the small bet I put on him about 9 months ago. Come on Tom!  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 23 July, 2017, 03:30:14 pm
Fuck, he's going to have to play better than Kim Jong Il now...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Tim Hall on 24 August, 2017, 11:40:30 am
I'm dot watching the Clipper Round The World race, on account of my cousin being on board on of the boats. Unfortunately they seem to be in the nautical equivalent of the Lanterne Rouge position.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 August, 2017, 09:30:22 pm
Which presumably is lanterne blanche.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 27 August, 2017, 10:12:24 pm
I don't watch football very often these days but I went to the pub with my son this afternoon to watch Liverpool vs Arsenal, and what I want to know is this...

When did Arsenal become so awful? That was a truly abject display.

Liverpool were on top form, and thrilling to watch, but Arsenal essentially just rolled over and let Liverpool tear into them. To be honest, the 4-0 scoreline was flattering to Arsenal. It should have been 10-0.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 August, 2017, 02:41:13 am
I don't watch football very often these days but I went to the pub with my son this afternoon to watch Liverpool vs Arsenal, and what I want to know is this...

When did Arsenal become so awful?

1980, when Liam Brady went to Juventus :demon:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 28 August, 2017, 11:03:37 am
When did Arsenal become so awful?

When they let Patrick Viera go and never replaced him.

Viera was immense in midfield, a proper captain.  They've been on a fairly steady decline ever since.

The club's finances are in great shape, and that seems to be a worthwhile objective, but saving millions on players whilst missing out on the millions from the Champions League isn't such great economics.

Wenger was visibly shaking yesterday.  I think it's taking its toll on him and he should have left on the FA Cup high last year. 
He faces the possibility of his amazing legacy being overshadowed by jeers and taunts from the fans.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 30 August, 2017, 03:44:02 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 30 August, 2017, 04:04:05 pm
hee-hee! I love stuff like this.

I'd say it's a badly thought-out rule. Cricket isn't about "bonus points", so it can't be "NOT CRICKET" to deny your opponents the chance of them. Shirley??
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 August, 2017, 06:11:18 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?

It's not cricket. They didn't play any!

Avid readers may recall that Ian Botham did something similar in a Bensons & Hedges 1-day match once. It was in the qualifying group, and from memory he declared the Somerset innings closed. I can't remember who the opponents were, but it meant that the only way they could beat Somerset in the group's final table was by getting a faster overall run rate than theirs, and just scoring 4 runs (or whatever) to win was not going to do this.

I don't remember whether he was reprimanded by the TCCB, but he bloody well should have been. Lots of people had travelled a long way and paid a lot of money to watch that match.

Edit: I've half-remembered again. Brian Rose was the captain in that match, and Somerset were expelled from the competition. It was 1979 and Essex won the B & H cup that year. Wiki doesn't reveal who Somerset's opponents were in the match in question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Rose_(cricketer)

Ah! Worcestershire! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Benson_%26_Hedges_Cup
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 30 August, 2017, 08:02:38 pm
I have less sympathy for Cresselly now as I've since learned that they won the toss.  Surely they must have been aware of the mathematics before the match. 
If they had chosen to bat, they would have had a chance to win and win the league by picking up two more bonus points than their opponents.
Poor decision.

Of course,  they may have lost the match.  But so what?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 30 August, 2017, 08:32:19 pm
You could argue that Carew had earned the right to game the system by virtue of being 21 points ahead going into the match. Presumably both sides knew the rules at the start of the season and their relative positions were a reflection of their performance throughout the season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 31 August, 2017, 11:46:39 am
Some of the rules of cricket are ridiculous and the rules of that competition are crazy. They make away goals rules and penalty shootouts look entirely simple.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 31 August, 2017, 12:19:28 pm
Some of the rules of cricket are ridiculous

Outrageous statement!  :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 September, 2017, 06:44:17 pm
You could argue that Carew had earned the right to game the system by virtue of being 21 points ahead going into the match. Presumably both sides knew the rules at the start of the season and their relative positions were a reflection of their performance throughout the season.

I have stopped bing amazed at sports professionals not knowing the rules of the game they play for a living.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 September, 2017, 05:13:29 am
I passed a Cook Underwood Road this afternoon.  I wonder whether by any chance it was named after a pair of English cricketers?

["No" - Ed.]
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 07 September, 2017, 08:21:23 am
You could argue that Carew had earned the right to game the system by virtue of being 21 points ahead going into the match. Presumably both sides knew the rules at the start of the season and their relative positions were a reflection of their performance throughout the season.

I thin it happens fairly often that a team in the football play-offs finishes sixth, a cricket score of points behind the team in third, then goes on to win the play-offs and gain promotion.  It could be argued one way that they have been much worse over the season and so shouldn't be promoted and the other that they are the form team at the time and should be promoted.  I don't like the system but it's really about maximising income, I think.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 September, 2017, 04:58:10 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/16/new-zealand-south-africa-rugby-championship-all-blacks-irresistible-record-defeat-report

That will hurt...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: JonBuoy on 27 September, 2017, 12:46:39 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?


PCCC have decided that it was just not cricket.

Carew Cricket Club relegated after 'unfair' win over title rivals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-41404646)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 27 September, 2017, 01:17:49 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?


PCCC have decided that it was just not cricket.

Carew Cricket Club relegated after 'unfair' win over title rivals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-41404646)

Well, I think that is rather harsh.  I was originally in the "Just Not Cricket" camp, but the club were playing within the rules.  Technically they won through clever tactics, regardless of the fact that many, including myself, were not happy about it.
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Officials said Carew did not technically break any rules, but the complaints led to the creation of a four-man disciplinary committee which looked into the team's actions.

It decided to relegate Carew to Division Two but allowed them to remain as champions.

The team's captain has also been told he is banned from starting the 2018 season, and the club was also fined £300.


Those sanctions are totally disproportionate. 
Perhaps a 'fine' of 10 points for 'unsportsmanlike behavior' would have been better?  But relegation, fine and a player ban is really going to hurt a small local village team.

 I say again that Cresselly were fools themselves when having won the toss, they put Carew in to bat when it should have been obvious what could happen.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 September, 2017, 02:21:23 pm
It might be just not cricket but if it's within the rules then it's the rules that need to change.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Von Broad on 23 October, 2017, 09:02:34 pm
Marty Feldman would have loved this  :D classic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41728826
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2017, 11:30:15 am
Thanks!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: harvey on 04 November, 2017, 05:46:10 pm
Yesterday, went to the Paris Masters ATP mainly to see Nadal take on promising upstart Krajinović but disappointingly Rafa pulled out w/knee problem. Isner v Del Potro was a terrific match. Titans on court with Isner at 6'10 and Del Potro a measly 6'6. Serves were mostly in the 225km/h range, and many aces. Both played really well and could have gone either way; but Isner was in great form and won the day. Doubles match with Jamie Murray/Soares v Hubert/Mahut was exciting and close. Tennis takes on new excitement when les bleaus are in front of the home crowd. But Jamie/Soares pulled it off and everyone went 'pfff' and left.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 November, 2017, 02:13:29 pm
Yesterday, in League 2, 9 of the 11 fixtures included a club whose name began with the letter C - in one case, the second word of the club name. No "C" club played another.

How many times a season does that happen?  ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 November, 2017, 10:09:59 am
Shock horror!

Italy has failed to qualify for the World Cup!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on 17 November, 2017, 10:45:46 pm
The perfect job for someone
 https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time (https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time)
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Post by: mattc on 18 November, 2017, 08:02:46 am
The perfect job for someone
 https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time (https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time)

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If you're interested in this role please email in with your CV and your funniest joke

Anyone got an outrageous CV to hand? I'm sure we can find an appaling joke in https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=403.0

This company may get deluged with "funny" stuff :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 November, 2017, 05:15:51 pm
Congratulations to Sunderland who, I am reliably informed by lifelong supporter My Mate Terry Who Art In Sibton and whose house I am currently in, have today broken an all time Football League record by failing to win at home in 20 matches.

Correction: this seems to be a record covering all competitions, not just the League.

http://www.sportbible.com/football/fails-sunderland-break-record-for-the-longest-home-winless-streak-20171118 refers.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 29 November, 2017, 02:55:17 pm
The official poster for the Russian world cup 2018 has been launched and it's actually rather good.
(https://bis.gazeta.pl/im/61/a8/15/z22710113Q.jpg)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 06 January, 2018, 01:27:19 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I don't follow the sport any more but I just checked the standings... Crumbs!

If you're bored, take a look at how many quarterbacks we've burned through in the last few years.

Just in case anyone missed it, the Cleveland Browns managed a perfect season: 0-16!  There's even a Perfect Season Parade (http://www.brownsparade.com/) taking place today.   ;D

ETA: parade report (https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/1/6/16857456/cleveland-browns-perfect-0-16-season-parade).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 15 January, 2018, 09:32:42 am
Are there any Everton fans round these parts? I'd be interested to know your thoughts on your current manager.

Personally, I can't stand "Big" Sam. A hugely overrated manager who never seems to get any enjoyment out of football, every time I hear him being interviewed he seems to be moaning about something - and always blaming others for their faults while refusing to recognise his own shortcomings as a manager. What's more, he comes across as a pretty awful person too, and that Panorama expose of his corruption didn't do him any favours either.

If you look at his track record, his main strengths as a manager appear to be bringing up teams from lower divisions and avoiding relegation. Everton fit neither situation. They're a once great club with a tradition of playing entertaining football. They're not in danger of relegation, and the best they can hope to achieve under Allardyce is maintaining their current mid-table obscurity. For which he will no doubt blame someone else.

I don't know why I'm so angry about this - I'm not an Everton fan myself, I just can't stand that man and can't fathom how he still manages to find employment in the top tier of domestic football.

Everton fans must look at what's going on across the park and weep. I don't think you could find two more contrasting management styles than Allardyce and Klopp. Can anyone imagine an Allardyce side ever being involved in a game like that between Liverpool and City yesterday?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 15 January, 2018, 09:47:45 am
LFC fan, which obviously means I have an opinion. ;)
Everton appointed "Big Sam" because they were worried about getting sucked into a relegation battle (they were 17th? when he joined), and because they couldn't get hold of their first few choices. They won a few games after he was appointed, and given the state of the table that meant they shot up from near relegation to somewhere around 9th. After getting knocked out of the FA cup they have nothing left to play for, and the Everton match going fan is going to have to watch another 15 games of that rubbish! I can't see them keeping him in the summer if they can get someone good.

Their "tradition" of playing football is somewhat overstated though - Koeman played dire football, and they had Moyes for 10 years prior to Martinez. Part of the problem is that they need to tear up the squad - with the exception of a couple of youngsters they are the best walking football team in the world!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 15 January, 2018, 10:43:55 am
LFC fan, which obviously means I have an opinion. ;)

Same here. ;)

I just remember the glory days of the 80s when Merseyside basically had the two best teams in Europe. And I genuinely feel sorry for the current state Everton find themselves in.

You're right that their situation is the result of many years of poor management, and not Allardyce's fault, but I really don't think he's the man to turn it around for them and hiring him was a backward, negative step. Despite their league position when he took over, I don't think they were in real danger of relegation - the margins are so tight down there than it only takes one or two good results for a side to shoot up the table.

I'm under no illusions about Liverpool's situation either though - Klopp is a wonderful manager, I just adore his infectious enthusiasm for the game, and as an attacking force, his side is incredible, but they haven't had a decent keeper or back four for years and they'll never return to truly competing with the best sides in Europe (or even in the Premier League) until they sort that out.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 15 January, 2018, 11:07:46 am
You say that the keeper is an issue but if Mignolet is the problem then Karius isn't the answer. Maybe Ward is? In any case Liverpool players seem to be held to a higher standard than those of other teams. Man City's Ederson is considered a top keeper but if Mignolet or Karius had made the error that led to the fourth Liverpool goal people would be advocating that they be be strung up from a lamp post.

As for Everton, as another LFC fan I'm sad to see their decline.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on 15 January, 2018, 12:57:18 pm
It's a good thing for Worcester Valkyries that there is no relegation yet from the Tyrrells Premier 15s (women's rugby, for those not in the know); Saracens Women 105, Worcester Valkyries 0.

They were better than in the first match-up at Worcester, but with a young & inexperienced team against Sarries' many internationals it's a problem. They kept battling, though; keep your heads up, Worcester.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 January, 2018, 02:06:32 pm


I just remember the glory days of the 80s when Merseyside basically had the two best teams in Europe.

Blimey! I never knew Tranmere were that good.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 15 January, 2018, 03:19:03 pm


I just remember the glory days of the 80s when Merseyside basically had the two best teams in Europe.

Blimey! I never knew Tranmere were that good.

My chemistry teacher, a purebred scouser, often told us that the three best football teams in the world were Liverpool, Everton and Tranmere, but not necessarily in that order.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 15 January, 2018, 04:12:43 pm
Strange little incident at a PSG/whoever match when a player accidentally collided with the ref, who then tried to take him down, failed, and gave him a yellow card instead. Ref suspended.

Funny buggers these footballers.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: JenM on 15 January, 2018, 08:47:58 pm
My chemistry teacher, a purebred scouser, often told us that the three best football teams in the world were Liverpool, Everton and Tranmere, but not necessarily in that order.

Be that as it may, the best two football sides on Merseyside were Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 January, 2018, 12:58:25 am
I have just been watching this:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er_gMbQqjyE

Pretty rubbish recording of a wonderful day's cricket (I was there - £4.50 for a ticket to a Lord's final...). The funniest bit is Keith Fletcher being awarded the trophy. He doesn't realise that there's a plinth and a lid to the cup and they both disappear somewhere in his excitement.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 27 January, 2018, 05:22:00 pm
A question for our Lancastrian brethren: am I right in thinking that to refer to a team as "The Latics" is a big pile of nonsense, especially when it's Wigan?

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 27 January, 2018, 07:06:20 pm
A question for our Lancastrian brethren: am I right in thinking that to refer to a team as "The Latics" is a big pile of nonsense, especially when it's Wigan?

Wikipedia would disagree: -

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Full name:   Wigan Athletic Football Club
Nickname(s):   The Latics, The Tics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Athletic_F.C.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 27 January, 2018, 07:21:04 pm
A question for our Lancastrian brethren: am I right in thinking that to refer to a team as "The Latics" is a big pile of nonsense, especially when it's Wigan?

Wikipedia would disagree: -

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Full name:   Wigan Athletic Football Club
Nickname(s):   The Latics, The Tics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Athletic_F.C.

I wouldn't give wiki any authority! Even I have written stuff in there... ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 27 January, 2018, 09:20:19 pm
They share the epithet with Oldham.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 28 January, 2018, 11:29:54 pm
Yesterday, in League 2, 9 of the 11 fixtures included a club whose name began with the letter C - in one case, the second word of the club name. No "C" club played another.

How many times a season does that happen?  ;)

In the league all the teams we played in November started with a ‘C’.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 February, 2018, 12:53:41 pm
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/15918869.Police_probe_launched_into_Town_boss_after_alleged_blackmail_offences/

Crikey! That's the town of my birth, that is. What would Ian Dury have made of it?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 04 February, 2018, 05:01:25 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Tamplin

Scrap metal dealer by the look of it.  Born-again, though it doesn't say how many times.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 February, 2018, 12:37:18 pm
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/15918869.Police_probe_launched_into_Town_boss_after_alleged_blackmail_offences/

Crikey! That's the town of my birth, that is. What would Ian Dury have made of it?
We're Billericay Town
And we're going to send you down
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 08 February, 2018, 12:44:10 pm
We're Billericay Town
And our owner's going down
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 February, 2018, 06:12:02 pm
Have the Winter Olympics started? I haven't seen anything about it in the news here, but Polish news is full of ski jumping reports from Pjongczang. (ski jumping being a popular spectator sport in PL)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: SteveC on 08 February, 2018, 07:29:43 pm
Start Friday. Coverage on BBC, but at weird times, of course.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 February, 2018, 10:11:11 am
Must be some sort of elimination heats at the moment then. But in Korea already.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 February, 2018, 01:31:00 pm
The torch is lit now. Odd the way the events start before the opening ceremony! Kudos to Tonga for the most un-wintery opening parade.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 March, 2018, 02:05:35 pm
It seems that a third Charlton is trying to make his debut for England.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43307076
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 30 March, 2018, 08:10:03 pm
Megan and I got home from our 'walk' and Mrs B asked, How did Wales do?
"It wasn't Wales, it was The Scarlets.   Oh, hang on.  Same thing."  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 14 April, 2018, 05:41:35 pm
I only realised it was the grand national about 10 minutes before it started. So I quickly stuck a couple of quid each way on a horse I liked the name of.

IT FUCKING WON!!  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 14 April, 2018, 06:19:15 pm
I managed to pick the same winning horse in the pub sweepstake.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 14 April, 2018, 09:59:47 pm
Tottenham 1  Manchester City 3

Eriksen scored for Spurs but Harry Kane is claiming all three of City's goals.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 April, 2018, 06:40:07 pm
Is it very wrong of me to point and laugh at a very soggy Jose Mourinho after his lot went down to West Brom at Old Trafford, thus handing the title to the bunch from across town?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 15 April, 2018, 10:41:03 pm
Is it very wrong of me to point and laugh at a very soggy Jose Mourinho after his lot went down to West Brom at Old Trafford, thus handing the title to the bunch from across town?

It doesn't matter.  The title was won months ago.  The (small) victory was beating Citeh last week, thereby preventing them winning it at Old Trafford..and making Citeh fans cry.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 April, 2018, 08:18:20 pm
Mr Larrington has had a busy day of sport:
First Bristol rugby rename themselves "Bristol Bears"
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The rugby club will, in future, be both “bear in spirit” and “bear in mind” according to this glossy brochure.
https://www.bristol247.com/sport/rugby/bristol-rugby-change-name/

Then it becomes known that a bear will be opening the World Cup in Russia later this year, which is either a fantastic piece of news
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Russia, apparently, is on an entirely different level when it comes to soccer. In a third division match between Mashuk-KMV vs. FC Aungusht, a freaking real bear was used to hand the ball to the referee. This isn't a joke. A real bear, a massive, scary yet cute creature, handed the ref to the ball and also started clapping. Take a look:
or "shocking" and "troubling"
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Shocking footage has emerged from Russia showing a bear being made to hand over the match ball before a game in the third division. This is just the latest in a long line of troubling incidents to occur in Russia ahead of the 2018 World Cup, with less than two months to go until the home nation’s opening clash against Saudi Arabia.
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-bear-helped-start-match-in-russia-and-we-can-only-hope-we-see-this-at-the-2018-world-cup/
http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/16/bear-forced-hand-match-ball-referee-russia-ahead-world-cup-7472003/
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 17 April, 2018, 12:45:13 pm
Strewth  ::-)

I think I agree with the CBS guy's conclusion about Russia 2018:

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Man, this World Cup is going to be bonkers
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 April, 2018, 01:18:22 pm
Putting aside the World Cup for a mo and thinking about Bristol Rugby club, it turns out the name "Bristol Bears" is already taken:
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The new name for Bristol Rugby when they take to the field at Ashton Gate next season in the Premiership will be ‘Bristol Bears’, but there is already a well-established group of men known as the Bristol Bears.

Their spiritual and social home is in Old Market, the area that has been self-described as Bristol’s Gay Village, and of the many bars and clubs in the thriving village, the Bristol Bear Bar is their base.

And when any rugby fan might type ‘Bristol Bears’ into their internet browser, they will get a cascade of images of cheery, happy and smiling bears partying in and around Old Market.

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A spoof Bristol Bears rugby account has been set up on Twitter, hilariously suggesting that the rugby team will now be made up of regulars at the BBB, and discounts will be offered on tickets for fans turning up in leather harnesses.
...
The Bristol Bear Bar itself declined to comment, but one regular on the Bristol Bear scene, who didn't want to be named, said: “It’s hilarious. I’ve been checking out the rugby website now, and I’m sure those players will be welcomed in Old Market – especially Luke Morahan,” he said.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/bristol-rugbys-new-name-bristol-1466361

Putin of course has no beard but he's certainly keen to present a "hyper masculine" image.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 April, 2018, 12:25:14 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?" and other people replying "Exactly."

I like it. I wonder what Ian Rush is doing now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 18 April, 2018, 12:33:28 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?" and other people replying "Exactly."

I like it. I wonder what Ian Rush is doing now.

Never heard of them.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 18 April, 2018, 12:37:33 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?"

Oh dear. I posted the same on facebook earlier and thought I was being hugely original and witty.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 April, 2018, 12:52:38 pm
You weren't, but it still makes me smile. I watched the ad on yatube and I think the boys' strips are from the Crown paints Liverpool days.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Martin on 18 April, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
I was shocked at the price of beer in my local Sky Sports pub last night,

Not going that often does anyone know if they hike their prices on match days?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 18 April, 2018, 12:57:24 pm
That surely depends on the individual pub. I don't think either of the two pubs where I occasionally watch football raise their prices when matches are on.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Martin on 18 April, 2018, 01:01:08 pm
the scourge of the South East G***** K*** so hardly surprising
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 18 April, 2018, 01:02:11 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?" and other people replying "Exactly."

"It's what Ian Rush drinks." is my standard reply to anyone exclaiming "Urgh!", and has been since about 1989.

See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.

In the unlikely event that I live long enough to be properly old, between this sort of thing and referring to any recorded media as a "tape" I should be fully set for confusing the young folk.   :thumbsup:


[1] They recorded two versions, so they could continue to use the advert in 1991, but only the original has made it to Youtube.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 18 April, 2018, 01:08:43 pm
I was shocked at the price of beer in my local Sky Sports pub last night,

Not going that often does anyone know if they hike their prices on match days?

My local actually lowers the price to £2.50 when the Welsh rugby team are on.  :thumbsup:
This reduction applies during the match only, which leads to lots of people standing around with no beer in their hand during the anthems followed by a mass rush to the bar as the game begins.  Another rush occurs during the last two minutes.  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Martin on 18 April, 2018, 01:58:44 pm
also did I imagine it but I thought a pint glass appeared in the corner of the screen about 5 mins before half time (as in "get another round in before the rush!")

although it was there all the way through the second half (Which given I was supporting Spurs was probably a bit premature unless I was going to cry into it!)

at some point I could work out how much Punk IPA at £5.30 a pint I'd have to drink a month before it became cheaper to invest in Sky Sports at home (and a decoder for that matter)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 18 April, 2018, 02:17:34 pm
also did I imagine it but I thought a pint glass appeared in the corner of the screen about 5 mins before half time (as in "get another round in before the rush!")

The pint glass shows they've paid for the commercial Sky subscription (price is based on pub turnover but it averages about £2k a month for a typical reasonably busy pub).

Sky employ people to go round pubs when major sports events are on to ensure that the pint glass symbol is shown (the typical trick is to get a cut down Sky Sports commercial subscription that gives you a couple of the Sky Sports channels but then use a residential Sky subscription to show the other channels).

I've seen some pubs with the pint logo tippexed onto the screen.

You'll also see 9 digit numbers overlaid (usually top right) on Sky Sports channels, even on residential subscriptions. This is a unique number added by the Sky box (based on the viewing card number) that allows Sky to identify feeds being streamed onto the Internet. They employ people to find and watch the streams, pick out the numbers and then send the appropriate signal over the satellite feed to kill that viewing card/box remotely.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Legs on 18 April, 2018, 02:20:47 pm
See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.
See also: "Where IS everybody? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBmplrgV93E)"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 April, 2018, 02:27:09 pm
I guess this means I'm old already, cos I've heard of Accrington Stanley but didn't have any idea – till I just googled it – that they'd done anything noteworthy, nor about the advert. And I'm still not sure what Ian Rush has to do with it (guessing he was in the 1980s advert)!

And if a pint was £5.30 I'd think the figures had been transposed.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 18 April, 2018, 02:29:10 pm
See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.
See also: "Where IS everybody? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBmplrgV93E)"

And "A bush, a bin, a brick, a bus... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXkWBxFYCDQ)" (Milton Keynes' answer to Energy In Northampton.)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 18 April, 2018, 02:33:06 pm
I guess this means I'm old already, cos I've heard of Accrington Stanley but didn't have any idea – till I just googled it – that they'd done anything noteworthy, nor about the advert. And I'm still not sure what Ian Rush has to do with it (guessing he was in the 1980s advert)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pieK7b4KLL4
https://youtu.be/pieK7b4KLL4


ETA: It appears this has had a resurgence in popularity following this excellent parody vodka advert featuring the original actor:

https://vimeo.com/183463777

Which has been banned following complaints.  Possibly by Ian Rush.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-39203434
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 18 April, 2018, 04:53:46 pm
See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.

And any time anyone gets a new bike: "Ee, I were right about that saddle though."
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 20 April, 2018, 11:28:23 am
Wenger out (at the end of the season).

No great surprise.
* If he wins the EL and therefore qualifies for the CL next season then he should leave on a high.
* If he doesn't win the EL then he should have left anyway.

It does mean that the longest serving Premiership manager next season will be Eddie Howe.

(Assuming he doesn't move to Arsenal that is. Who knows who is going to be AFC manager next season.)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 20 April, 2018, 12:10:51 pm
It does mean that the longest serving Premiership manager next season will be Eddie Howe.

Blimey! That's actually a far more interesting fact than Wenger stepping down.

I looked up the list of longest-serving managers and five of the next seven after Wenger are recently promoted clubs - Howe at Bournemouth, Dyche at Burnley, Hughton at Brighton, Wagner at Huddersfield and Benitez at Newcastle.

I guess this shows that you can be allowed the luxury of a few seasons if you win a promotion and/or a cup, but once you start to stagnate into a bog-standard mid-table club (Everton, West Ham, Stoke), the revolving door policy kicks in.

The two interlopers in that bunch are Pochettino at Spurs and Klopp at Liverpool, but they are arguably the only two of the "Big Six" clubs that have showed real progress and improvement in the last few years. Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal have either remained static or gone backwards. City have only achieved the minimum expected given the manager and players at their disposal and Guardiola will be feeling the pressure to perform better in Europe next season.

It's a results business, Brian.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 April, 2018, 12:50:16 pm
I really hope Huddersfield can stay up this time. They're still hovering near the relegation zone so a couple more wins should steer them clear. My mum and brother have season tickets and they have been to pretty much every home game this season and loved it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 20 April, 2018, 01:38:13 pm
I hope they stay up, too.  Ancestrally, Huddersfield belong in the top division.  I don't think it happens very often that all three promoted clubs stay up, does it?  Could be wrong.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 20 April, 2018, 01:40:59 pm
97/98 was the last Premiership season where the 3 promoted clubs all stayed up.

Oops, nope. 2000/01 and 2010/11 too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 20 April, 2018, 01:45:30 pm
Cheers, GB - still pretty unusual, then.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: andyoxon on 02 May, 2018, 10:17:59 pm
Interesting Champion's League goal tonight... ;D

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 18 May, 2018, 04:54:15 pm
Former Uefa president Michel Platini has claimed that he fixed the draw for the 1998 World Cup in order to ensure France and Brazil did not meet until the final.

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The French hosted and won their first World Cup 20 years ago, beating Brazil 3-0 in the final in Paris.

Former France captain Platini was on the tournament's organising committee.

"When we organised the schedule, we did a little trickery," he told radio station France Bleu Sport.

"France-Brazil in the final, it was the dream of everyone.

"If we finished first in the group and Brazil finished first, we could not meet before the final."

He laughed as he went on: "We did not spend six years organising the World Cup to not do some little shenanigans. Do you think other World Cup hosts did not?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44170578

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 18 May, 2018, 05:41:03 pm
Former Uefa president Michel Platini has claimed that he fixed the draw for the 1998 World Cup in order to ensure France and Brazil did not meet until the final.

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The French hosted and won their first World Cup 20 years ago, beating Brazil 3-0 in the final in Paris.

Former France captain Platini was on the tournament's organising committee.

"When we organised the schedule, we did a little trickery," he told radio station France Bleu Sport.

"France-Brazil in the final, it was the dream of everyone.

"If we finished first in the group and Brazil finished first, we could not meet before the final."

He laughed as he went on: "We did not spend six years organising the World Cup to not do some little shenanigans. Do you think other World Cup hosts did not?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44170578

Same system as used by many tournaments, such as Wimbledon Tennis.  You can't be sure they will meet in the Final, you can only ensure they never meet BEFORE the final.

It makes sense really.  Nobody wants to see the big names going out in the early stages.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 May, 2018, 06:33:23 pm
And FIFA seem to have approved.
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Two days before the draw took take place, world governing body Fifa announced that holders Brazil would be allocated to Group A while France were in Group C.

It meant that if the two teams finished top they would be on opposite sides of the draw for the knockout stage.
The idea might have originated from FIFA rather than Platini and he's just claiming the glory now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 19 May, 2018, 09:44:31 am
I think all the recent single host world cup tournaments have been arranged so that the hosts and cup holders will stay apart until the final (assuming they get that far) Nothing out of the ordinary in France 98
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 July, 2018, 06:39:52 pm
Christiano Ronaldo signs for Juventus! (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/10/cristiano-ronaldo-leaves-real-madrid-joins-juventus/)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 10 July, 2018, 07:29:03 pm
Christiano Ronaldo signs for Juventus! (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/10/cristiano-ronaldo-leaves-real-madrid-joins-juventus/)

Stripes are slimming, and he's not getting any younger...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 22 July, 2018, 03:08:21 pm
One of my wife's running friends just finished a 500-km race across Tennessee, running over 50k / day.  She's 66.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 23 July, 2018, 12:01:02 pm
It's taken a long time but it's finally happened. Sort of.

East Fife 4 Forfar 5

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 July, 2018, 12:20:46 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on 24 July, 2018, 12:24:16 pm
Ms Marco & her England Women's Open team-mates retained their European Touch title at the weekend, to much relief from watching supporters. BBC live streamed this championship, so getting more recognition. Some stunning touch played; Scotland's mixed open side was superb.

England-Wales in pool stages: 11-2
England-Wales in final: 3-2
England supporters' need for a large beer after that: great.  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 24 July, 2018, 12:39:00 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.

I would have guessed at Eric Morecambe's death being much more recent than Tommy Cooper's but they actually popped off within a few weeks of each other.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 July, 2018, 12:46:28 pm
I associate them both with my grandparents' generation.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 24 July, 2018, 01:48:50 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.

I would have guessed at Eric Morecambe's death being much more recent than Tommy Cooper's but they actually popped off within a few weeks of each other.

IIRC both of them drew applause from the audience until they realized what was happening.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 July, 2018, 11:00:23 am
Congratulations to Forest Green Rovers on becoming the world's first football club to be certified carbon neutral by the UN!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 30 July, 2018, 11:36:28 am
Last season they were pretty well points neutral, too.  Hoping for better things this time!


Edit:  Thus far they are that rare beast - a club that is relegation neutral!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on 30 July, 2018, 01:24:13 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.

It seems very much like 34 years to me.  He's a childhood/early teen memory for me.....and I haven't been either for some time.

He's also one of those memories I feel is best not revisited. I doubt the M&W Show will have dated well but the memory of it leaves a warm glow.

I find it incredible that I am older than Captain Mainwaring!!  Arthur Lowe was 53 when he first played the role.

Godfrey (Arnold Ridley) was 72...so anyone out there 72 and above is now older than Private Godfrey.

I am the same age as Sergeant Wilson (John le Mesurier) at 56.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 July, 2018, 06:40:54 pm
Yesterday when I returned to my accommodation at Agnes Blackadder Hall there was a large number of extremely well-built athletic looking blokes coming the other way all dressed in identical shorts and tops - I reckon about 100 of them. It was some sort of rugby summer school from Edinburgh.

At breakfast this morning, there wasn't a great deal of the first helping left. One of the rugby players was nearby. "Harrumph!" I harrumphed. "It looks as though a rugby team as been getting at this lot!" He thought that was quite amusing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 26 August, 2018, 07:18:37 pm
End of the cricket season  here.
Llandysul  1sts. 2 wins in the last two weeks saves them  from relegation, so a second year in South Wales Div 1
Llandysul  2nds.  Top their division and are promoted to South Wales Div 5 (West)

A good year.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 21 September, 2018, 06:48:21 am
Blimey Andrij the Browns are 1-1-1 having bcome back from 14-0 against the Jets.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 22 September, 2018, 01:03:16 am
Blimey Andrij the Browns are 1-1-1 having bcome back from 14-0 against the Jets.

I'm on that side of the pond, and was able to watch the game.  :)  The first half was forgettable, the second - incredible!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 01 October, 2018, 04:32:53 pm
Blimey Andrij the Browns are 1-1-1 having bcome back from 14-0 against the Jets.

I'm on that side of the pond, and was able to watch the game.  :)  The first half was forgettable, the second - incredible!

And so they reverted to type yesterday. Though I must say that leading during the fourth quarter and only loosing in over time is even more cruel in the added hope that is cast into the pit of despair.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 01 October, 2018, 05:11:08 pm
I watched to the bitter end.  I'm actually starting to develop a bit of hope they won't be utterly crappe this season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 20 November, 2018, 07:09:06 pm
this made me laugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46269865 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46269865)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 27 November, 2018, 07:36:12 pm
https://twitter.com/HannahB4LiviMP/status/1064972456971124737

[I don't THINK it's been posted yet ... ]
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 07 December, 2018, 07:54:17 am
Skateboarding, sport or not?

Apparently it will be in the next 'lympics,
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Torslanda on 07 December, 2018, 08:39:39 am
Like snowboarding but generally warmer. With more abrasion injuries...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 07 December, 2018, 08:47:35 am
I can see the evolution skiing to snowboarding, but to skateboaring?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 December, 2018, 09:11:39 am
For skateboarding, start with roller skating not skiing! If there are rules and an element of competition, both of which should be pretty easy to organise for skateboarding, then it's a sport. If you want to get classical, then it satisfies the first of citius, altitus, fortius. The list of sports that have been introduced to the Olympics then dropped is quite long, I'm not going to speculate if or when skateboarding will join it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 07 December, 2018, 10:02:15 am
For skateboarding, start with roller skating not skiing! If there are rules and an element of competition, both of which should be pretty easy to organise for skateboarding, then it's a sport. If you want to get classical, then it satisfies the first of citius, altitus, fortius. The list of sports that have been introduced to the Olympics then dropped is quite long, I'm not going to speculate if or when skateboarding will join it.
Tiddliwinks?
Darts?
Snooker?

sports?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 December, 2018, 10:14:23 am
I thought the classic one was chess?  ;D Okay, rules, competition and some sort of physical exertion.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 December, 2018, 10:16:16 am
Motor boat racing?
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Since the first modern Olympic Games in 1896, as many as twelve sports have disappeared completely from the schedule. These are croquet, cricket, Jeu de Paume, pelota, polo, roque, rackets, tug-of-war, lacrosse, baseball, softball, and motor boating. The Winter Olympics also has a few sports and events that have been discontinued.
https://www.topendsports.com/events/discontinued/
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 07 December, 2018, 10:29:49 am
I thought the classic one was chess?  ;D Okay, rules, competition and some sort of physical exertion.

Rules, competition, and an element of skill (i.e. you can't compete just by someone more experienced telling you what to do, like chess).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 07 December, 2018, 10:40:14 am
you forgot poetry
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 December, 2018, 10:54:56 am
I thought the classic one was chess?  ;D Okay, rules, competition and some sort of physical exertion.

Rules, competition, and an element of skill (i.e. you can't compete just by someone more experienced telling you what to do, like chess).
So tiddlywinks, darts, etc are back in!

you forgot poetry
I think there's a new form of cycling in this. It's a track event during which the riders declaim poetry which gives allegorical/metaphorical instructions to their team mates in the centre moving the chess pieces.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 07 December, 2018, 11:28:05 am
Town Planning?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 07 December, 2018, 11:47:20 am
Town Planning?

Is a sport required to have a winner?  If so, I don't think Town Planning qualifies, especially at professional level.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 07 December, 2018, 12:46:18 pm
Town Planning?

Is a sport required to have a winner?  If so, I don't think Town Planning qualifies, especially at professional level.

https://www.planetizen.com/node/87885/going-gold-when-town-planning-was-olympic-competition
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 December, 2018, 01:11:52 pm
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"Along with town planning, the lineup of events also included painting, sculpture, literature and music. Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Games, believed art and architecture were a vital component for his vision of the Olympics. The first four decades of the modern Olympic Games saw runners and swimmers competing alongside authors and urban planners."
The Baron sounds like a Renaissance man. Perhaps to bring the Games up to date we could have medals for something like hedge fund management?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Torslanda on 08 December, 2018, 11:59:45 am
I can see the evolution skiing to snowboarding, but to skateboaring?

ICBW. My branes tell me that skateboarding went 'mainstream'* around 1978. I was not aware of snowboarding until much later. So snowboarding is skateboards on ice/snow and skatebaording is roller skates on planks, hence the suggested evolution.

*It was in Sunday colour supplements and on TV - World of Sport on a Saturday with Dickie Davies - 'Nationwide' even staged a national championship so that characterless, disappointed, dismal people could complain about 'stupid' clothing and 'stupid' haircuts whilst Sue Lawley simpered at the camera and Frank Bough was having BDSM fantasies.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 December, 2018, 01:03:18 pm
An impressive amount of work must have gone in the giant banner unfurled by FC Basel's fans yesterday.
https://youtu.be/rPdFrN1o02g
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 January, 2019, 07:25:00 pm
I was checking some football results to see how Southend got on on Tuesday (I was sure they were playing as there were lots of people milling around just at the time Jan and I were off to choir, but couldn't find a result) when I randomly stumbled across two results that caught the eye: Man City 7 - 0 Rotherham, and Man City 9 - 0  Burton Albion.

I wonder when the last time was that a team scored 16 goals without reply in two matches in 4 days?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 January, 2019, 08:02:15 pm
st custards' U-10s once won their first two games of the season 9-0 and 21-0.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 January, 2019, 08:03:35 pm
I should have added "a top level side". Burton & Rotherham have both been respectably good sides in recent years.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 11 January, 2019, 09:03:59 pm
Burton's highest finish so far has been 20th in the second tier.  Rotherham once finished 3rd in the second tier but that was closer to the formation of organised football than to the present day.  I think the fact that Manchester City's scores look so remarkable is partly down to the fact that most top teams faced with "lesser" opposition tend to field an experimental side, expecting to win anyway.  (This came gloriously and satisfyingly unstuck for Liverpool and
Leicester recently - so much for "genius" managers.)  Manchester City did not play be the rules, I think, deeming it not to be cricket.  I'm old-fashioned enough to think it is thoroughly ungentlemany to beat a team from a lower division by a rugby score (or in Durham's case, a cricket score).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fimm on 17 January, 2019, 02:05:27 pm
The Spine Race is a 268mile ultra marathon run along the Pennine Way south to north in January.

This year's race was won yesterday evening by Jasmin Paris, who took about 12 hours off the old course record (in what were good weather conditions). The man who was in second place was a previous winner and would have also broken the old record had he not DNFed 6km from the finish. The actual 2nd place finisher was the previous course record holder.

Jasmin was expressing breast milk for her baby at the checkpoints. (I think the baby is about a year old).

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/17/jasmin-paris-first-woman-win-gruelling-286-mile-montane-spice-race-ultrarunning
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on 17 January, 2019, 02:14:22 pm
^ that is a clear definition of a nutter, the the best way possible. :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 17 January, 2019, 02:51:18 pm
I wonder when the last time was that a team scored 16 goals without reply in two matches in 4 days?

Back in 2001, Australia beat Tonga 22 nill. Two days later they beat American Samoa 31 nill.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: essexian on 17 January, 2019, 02:58:19 pm
If you are looking for teams which have conceded a lot of goals this year, then look no further than Florence FC from the Staffordshire County Premier

 http://www.staffordshirecsl.co.uk/TeamFixtures?age=22&division=21196&team=209799

That's 110 goals conceded in their last six matches with none scored.

IMHO Florence should have been relegated last season after they finished bottom but the league failed to do. However, I would vote them team of the year as they have turned up and tried their best at all the matches they have placed this season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on 17 January, 2019, 03:10:21 pm
Hmm I might go a support them, they clearly have the same level of interest in sportsball as me. Go to the park, have a natter and a laugh with mates, if there is a ball just kick it about in a meandering way and when you get tired of that, head to the pub for a few.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on 17 January, 2019, 03:27:18 pm
oooh here's another loon :)

https://www.wsj.com/video/184-mph-on-a-bicycle-how-denise-mueller-korenek-set-the-world-record/5418759C-1B56-4F9A-AB90-3418A71D1F49.html?mod=trending_now_video_1
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 17 January, 2019, 03:36:26 pm
Hmm I might go a support them, they clearly have the same level of interest in sportsball as me. Go to the park, have a natter and a laugh with mates, if there is a ball just kick it about in a meandering way and when you get tired of that, head to the pub for a few.

There are plenty of YouTube channels documenting the shitness of Sunday league football teams, should you wish to watch. The players turn up half cut, massively hungover or just dog tired after being up all night tending to their kids. They then go on to play and just generally kick the fuck out of the opposition. All very amusing  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 January, 2019, 01:06:30 pm
If you are looking for teams which have conceded a lot of goals this year, then look no further than Florence FC from the Staffordshire County Premier

 http://www.staffordshirecsl.co.uk/TeamFixtures?age=22&division=21196&team=209799

That's 110 goals conceded in their last six matches with none scored.

IMHO Florence should have been relegated last season after they finished bottom but the league failed to do. However, I would vote them team of the year as they have turned up and tried their best at all the matches they have placed this season.


Best result of the season so far - match postponed!  They'll be celebrating in the old town tonight.....
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 21 January, 2019, 10:27:51 pm
Some of you may recall my status as a supporter of the Cleveland Browns (US football) - a team with a rather poor record these last few decades.

Today I learned I'm in august company - Friedrich Nietzsche is a Fan of the Cleveland Browns (http://existentialcomics.com/comic/273).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Torslanda on 22 January, 2019, 05:16:29 pm
If that's true, God really is dead!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 23 January, 2019, 03:13:29 pm
Some of you may recall my status as a supporter of the Cleveland Browns (US football) - a team with a rather poor record these last few decades.

Today I learned I'm in august company - Friedrich Nietzsche is a Fan of the Cleveland Browns (http://existentialcomics.com/comic/273).

Firstly they weren't bottom of their division this year - Major Progress
Secondly they very nearly broke 50% this year compared to last year this was very major progress.
Third if they can keep their hands on Mayfield (and him healthy) and recruit wisely around him this progress may actually be sustained for the next few years.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on 23 January, 2019, 03:34:44 pm
Re-read after spending a lifetime as a supporter. ;)

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 March, 2019, 09:18:05 pm
Flipping through the channels, as you do, in our hotel room in San Sebastián, I have stumbled upon A Thing called Real Madrid TV. Barcelona are the opponents.  But RMTV seems not to have permission to cover the match. The screen is divided into 4. Top left shows players warming up on the touch line, top right shows the outside of the stadium, bottom left shows 3 commentators and bottom right shows a besuited man whom I assume to be the manager. There is a commentary, which is in Spanish.

Was there ever a more pointless exercise?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 March, 2019, 10:04:01 pm
So you're saying Real Madrid TV doesn't show Real Madrid matches? Bizarre. Or actually not bizarre, presumably they'll show it later but won't show it live in order to preserve broadcasting income. I've just found it online and it seems to be showing some second-team match. Actually it's RM Castilla v Valladolid. Who?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 March, 2019, 10:36:52 am
When Jan and I were in a restaurant last night a live match was being broadcast on La Liga TV, between Hue and Sev. It was interesting because Sev had a goal disallowed by VAR in the 90th minute but Hue scored the winner in the 96th minute. The Rma Bar match was then shown, but we left to go back to our hotel during the first half.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: essexian on 07 March, 2019, 08:17:48 am
I am so glad I watch the majority of the football I view live in the Staffordshire County Senior or Midland Leagues; places which will never been infested with the joke that is VAR.

Why a joke? Well, if that was a penalty in the PSG V Manchester United match, then I know nothing about football despite watching live over 2 000 matches in my time. Frankly, if a referee can get the call so wrong after watching it for two minutes solid, then the system does not work and the referee needs to be sacked. The bloke had his back to the ball and his arm was by his side and not moving towards the ball. How on Earth can that be a spot kick?

Sigh, once again Manchester United get the result they want deep into additional time. I mean, anyone would think that someone somewhere wanted them to win.  :-\

If VAR is going to be used then it should be used only for decisions like: "was the ball over the line" and "was the player off side." You may also want to look players being put on report as they do in Rugby so incidences missed by the Ref can be reviewed after the game.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 07 March, 2019, 08:57:00 am
VAR makes sense if the referee actually applies the laws of the game. It's a handball, if, in the opinion of the referee, a player intentionally handles the ball. So many VAR penalties are given where the ball is hit at a players arm (and the arm is in a perfectly normal position by their side). It seems that the refs see the slow motion, and think that a player can move their arm out of the way, when if all they were able to see was the full speed version, there would be no question it was deliberate.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 07 March, 2019, 12:30:04 pm
The handball law is due to change (for everyone) next season and UEFA/FIFA like to try things out in the upcoming season in the prestigious tournaments (albeit unofficially).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316)

The fundamental change is this one:-

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Another change to the laws of the game means that if the player's arms extend beyond a "natural silhouette", handball will be given, even if it is perceived as accidental.

Under those rules it would have been a penalty. The ref would have decided that Kimpembe's arm position was outside the "natural silhouette" (see pic below) and so, even though it was not intentional, it would have been given. Turning his back has nothing to do with it in this case, nor the amount of time he had to react.

Under the current rules it's no where near as clear cut. It definitely hit the players arm, and the contact was definitely in the penalty area.

Currently the only get out is whether it was unintentional (or, more correctly[1], could Kimpembe have got his arm out of the way in time) but that only applies where the ball is struck from a yard or two away and the player has no chance of getting their arm out of the way. This was just a bit further than that. If the ball hits your arm and you've had 10 seconds to get your arm out of the way then you're deemed to have deliberately left it there. Obviously this is somewhere in between the two extremes. Even if Kimpembe had been looking he wouldn't have had much time to get his arm out of the way of Dalot's shot, but if he had he might have been able to and the ball might have sailed over for a goal kick.

Given there's no unanimous agreement amongst referees it shows that the laws are still open to too much interpretation, however IFAB are making changes (as noted above) to slowly try and solve this.

Here are the pics that show Kimpembe's arm is not in a standard position, and the position relative to the penalty area:-

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Man-Utd-penalty-VAR-PSG-Champions-League-Rashford-1769765.jpg?r=1551939752843)

1. The "deliberate act" the law requires can be interpreted as the deliberate decision not to move the hands/arms out of the way. You don't have to have movement of the hand/arms towards the ball for it to be handball.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 March, 2019, 01:13:37 pm
The handball law is due to change
I glanced at the first few words and thought of a different sport.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 07 March, 2019, 02:51:36 pm
The handball law is due to change (for everyone) next season and UEFA/FIFA like to try things out in the upcoming season in the prestigious tournaments (albeit unofficially).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316)


Yes. I've been watching some Italian Serie A and Dutch Eridvisie games lately and the new law does appear to be being trialled. Lots of penalties being awarded for very little. I guess the result will be that a player unable to get a shot at the goal will just blast the ball at the nearest opponent in the hope of getting a penalty.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: essexian on 07 March, 2019, 04:37:44 pm

Yes. I've been watching some Italian Serie A and Dutch Eridvisie games lately and the new law does appear to be being trialled. Lots of penalties being awarded for very little. I guess the result will be that a player unable to get a shot at the goal will just blast the ball at the nearest opponent in the hope of getting a penalty.

Somewhat like field hockey where if the ball hits the foot then its a penalty corner. Its a stupid rule as forwards simply aim for the foot in order to get an advantage.

Thanks Greenbank (and indeed everyone else) for their replies. Here is the rub, I would argue that his arm is in a natural position, hence there is no way I could give a penalty for this. I am not sure where he could have placed.   The change is simply a joke which will cause yet more problems for Referees. I can see even more leaving lower leagues/kids games as its just not worth the hassle of upset players/shouty parents!

FIFA should stay doing what they do best... selling the World Cup to unsuitable nations for financial incentives... and let the people who actually know something about football set the rules etc.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 March, 2019, 12:41:55 pm
Does this mean that Half Man Half Biscuit will have to changed the entry for "H" in "The Referee's Alphabet"?

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The H is for handball, which has to be intentional and very rarely is.  If only people would study the rules more.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 08 March, 2019, 12:49:09 pm
Here is the rub, I would argue that his arm is in a natural position, hence there is no way I could give a penalty for this. I am not sure where he could have placed.   The change is simply a joke which will cause yet more problems for Referees. I can see even more leaving lower leagues/kids games as its just not worth the hassle of upset players/shouty parents!

I agree - try jumping and keeping your hands exactly at your side.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Alberto Moreno was ahead of his time. If this is the rule going forwards, defenders trying to tackle someone whilst clasping their hands together behind their back will become the norm!

I suspect that "common sense" will apply further down the pyramid, but that won't stop the shouty parents from demanding handball every single time it goes anywhere near someone's arm.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 March, 2019, 12:57:42 pm
I'm now wondering what happens if you commit a football in handball?  :D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 March, 2019, 12:03:05 am
I'm sure everyone on YACF will be delighted to join me in congratulating the England chess team, who have just won the silver medals at the World Team Championship. As WGM Jovanka Houska* said, with possibly a trace of exaggeration "You have made the entire country very proud!"

The team consisted of Michael Adams, a Grand Old Man of 47 years, and three rather younger players: Luke McShane, Gawain Jones and David Howell. It was my privilege to play both McShane and Howell during my ... chequered career. I managed a draw with McShane and didn't do quite so well against Howell. Their combined ages at the time I played them was 16.

Howell was 7 when I lost to him. Judging by the way he rushed off to tell his mum, I think I was the strongest player he had ever beaten up to that point. However, a year or so later he broke a world record by becoming the youngest player ever to beat a Real Live Grandmaster when he beat John Nunn. Nunn was, at one time, in the world Top 10, so I was in good company. It was my privilege to have been one of the controllers in that tournament.

*I recalled after typing the above that I played Jovanka Houska twice. She must have been in her early teens and I knew she was very good. I was surprised how badly she played in the first encounter, which I won. She took me apart in the second, though, which I think was a few months later.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 15 March, 2019, 09:30:01 am
I'm now wondering what happens if you commit a football in handball?  :D

Possession is turned over to the other side.

Handball is the exact flip of football in that only the goalkeeper is allowed to kick the ball.

</spoiling the gag with a serious answer>
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 14 April, 2019, 07:36:21 pm
The first 11 years of his career, he won 14 majors.
The second 11 years of his career he won 0 majors.

Until now. Amazing comeback by Tiger Woods ....
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 15 April, 2019, 12:51:15 pm
Straight out of "The Hotspur", isn't it?  Wonderful!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 15 April, 2019, 07:14:07 pm
Straight out of "The Hotspur", isn't it?  Wonderful!

I had to Google "The Hotspur"  :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 16 April, 2019, 11:32:54 am
I can take it!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 28 April, 2019, 10:15:01 pm
Eliud Kipchoge won today's London Marathon with an average speed of around 20.6 km/h. That's faster than I usually average when cycling :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 01 May, 2019, 06:16:10 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women led by Davies (retweeting Nick Griffin!), Rasdcliffe and Navratilova,  wins another casualty in Casters Semenya. Note how the word "cheat" has been used. "Cheats" are people like FloJo, the entire current Russian and old East German teams, and so on.

I trust that a follow-on from this ruling to penalise non-cheats for perceived genetic advantages will now ban such factors as excess height above average for swimmers and long-distance runners (Yes, YOU, Davies and Radcliffe) or perhaps reflex times?

Navratilova, who came out with all the bullshit about trans people, is now apparently upset that Semenya has been effectively banned. WTF did you expect, you bigot? She is, naturally, still campaigning on hatred of trans people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/48102479

Hint to the open-minded, as opposed to those who think that fair discussion consists of chanting "PENIS!" in TV studios: trans people* have been allowed to compete in the Olympics for fifteen years. Bu the logic Sharron Davies and other haters apply, that should mean that the women's events have been dominated by trans women; records smashed, cisgender women out-competed, and so on. In fact, the number of trans women who are or have been Olympic champions actually matches the number of trans women who have competed in the Olympic women's events: none. Zilch. Nada.

*It is ALWAYS about trans women. Trans men don't appear to exist.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 01 May, 2019, 07:10:16 pm
Here is Davies on her 'logic', even doing the "I'm not racist, some of my best friends..." schtick.

https://twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1123501449160294405
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 02 May, 2019, 10:43:15 am
Even CAS have basically said Well, it's complicated. 2-1, acknowledging discrimination against Semenya, but arguing that discrimination is necessary to level the playing field.
Apologies for ststing something you already know, but the problem with "sex testing" for who should be allowed to compete in women's sport has been around since the middle of last century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_verification_in_sports

I think sports governing bodies are in a no-win scenario - as you point out there are vocal commentators who want rigorous testing to ensure that women in sports fit their personal definition of a woman.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on 02 May, 2019, 11:39:35 am

*It is ALWAYS about trans women. Trans men don't appear to exist.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/rachel-mckinnon-becomes-first-transgender-woman-win-track-world-title-397473
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 02 May, 2019, 12:50:33 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women ... wins another casualty in Casters Semenya.

Caster Semenya is not a "trans woman"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 02 May, 2019, 04:23:49 pm
This is a really interesting (and long) analysis of the case. Tucker is open about being a witness for Caster Semenya, so his perspective is well known, but still worth reading.
https://sportsscientists.com/2019/05/on-dsds-the-theory-of-testosterone-performance-the-cas-ruling-on-caster-semenya/


*It is ALWAYS about trans women. Trans men don't appear to exist.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/rachel-mckinnon-becomes-first-transgender-woman-win-track-world-title-397473
Exactly.  Rachel McKinnon is a trans woman.
It's always about trans women because a cis woman has a disadvantage compared to a cis man, so if a trans man wants to compete against cis men, theoretically he would be at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 02 May, 2019, 06:53:42 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women ... wins another casualty in Casters Semenya.

Caster Semenya is not a "trans woman"

No, she isn't. But the campaign, which started with Navratilova  and was then picked up by Davies, Radcliffe, etc, was all about trans women, and the word repeatedly used is "cheat". The narrative has been very, very clear in its focus, and it goes "Lots of third-rate male athletes will self-define as female and fo through years of hormone therapy to become world champions..."

McKinnon won one race, in this particular narrative, against a cis woman, who then complained. They had raced against each other around a dozen times previously, and the cis woman had won every single time. The one race Rachel won, there was an immediate cry of "CHEAT!".

The IOC set out a whole range of criteria for trans women fifteen years ago. By the logic involved in the complaints going on*, the record books and medal tables should have been dominated by men pretending to be trans women who go through HRT just long enough to win everything, and then transition back to male. That hasn't happened, has it?

What HAS happened is a sustained and really vicious campaign of personal abuse and hatred against all trans women, which has intensified over the last few years. This particular "CHEAT!" narrative is just part of it. Semenya fell foul of it precisely because people like Navratilova have been shouting "Not Fair!" that some people have genetic advantages over others. Unfortunately, that is what elite sport is all about.

I could look at a swimming or running champion like Sharron Davies or Paula Radcliffe, and shout "CHEAT!" back. They are both taller by far than the average woman, so have inborn genetic advantages. How does that differ from Semenya? Should we start excluding e.g. Kenyan distance runners because their genetics makes them "CHEATS!" due to their cardiovascular system?

Citoyen, one of the side-effects of privilege is that one doesn't pick up on what happens in the lives of those without that privilege. Those with white privilege, for example, will often miss the signs of systematic racism at all levels. Cisgender people will not have picked up on the relentless campaign of transphobic hatred pouring out from everywhere in the MSM (e.g.Times: 323 hate articles against trans women in 2018. So far this year, they have peaked at five on one day). Those articles have stirred up a pile of crap that has now fallen on "Caster Semenya is not a trans woman".

The remedy offered by the TERFs is illogical. It involves treating her with drugs that they claim explicitly are evil and harmful. They take ONE natural advantage enjoyed by a tiny number of women, and blow it up as cheating (their explicit word. once more) while ignoring the other advantages some other women enjoy (height, reach, proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibres).  Underneath Semenya's treatment, as I have linked, there is a real stench of racism.

Citoyen et al: privilege. Without being in my shoes, it is very unlikely you will have picked up on the continual flow of hatred towards us. It is everywhere, from Twitter through the press (including the Graun) to stickers being put up in women's toilets. Casters Semenya is indeed "not a ;trans woman' " (BTW, why the quotation marks?) but she is a casualty of organised and systematic anti-trans bigotry. Put yourself in my shoes for a few moments; start by looking at the 'women's rights' chat board on Mumsnet for a feel of where the narrative comes from.

Then those of you who may or may not support her ban can explain to me why one, and only one, natural variation in perfectly normal female human genetics should have been singled out in this way. No, Citoyen, she is not a trans woman**. She is just an extraordinary female athlete being penalised for no valid reason because of bigots who hate other women from a different group.

No trans athletes at all in the Olympics in fifteen years, much less dominating medal tables and records. Fact.

*The same people pushing the "CHEAT!" narrative are exactly the same ones who claim that 'men' have genital surgery so as to be able to enter women's spaces in order to rape little girls with the penis they no longer have. Yes, that is really what they say.

** Trans women are women. Fact. Law in this country and in others.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 03 May, 2019, 12:00:57 pm
The reason why this case is complex, and why the parallel with Phelps or Kenyan runners or whoever is not a good one is because athletics has 2 categories - an "open" category where men compete, and a protected category where only women can compete. There are no such protected categories in swimming or running where you have to be a certain size or shape (unlike boxing for example).

Once the powers that be have created the concept that there is a protected category where only women can race, then they have to draw a boundary and define what that means. And unlike weight in boxing, this definition is where things get complicated. There has to be some sort of restrictions to stop a man just declaring themselves female and then winning (the chances of this happening are pretty small, but because of the performance advantages a man has in sports like running, they wouldn't need to be a world class man to produce times that compete with world class women).

The theory that the IAAF came up with was that the performance advantage that athletes with DSD (or trans athletes, though that's only an aside in this case) have is down to the level of testosterone that their body produces. They have some science (which many have attacked as dodgy) to back this up, and that's what they took to CAS and allowed to win this case (after losing the Dutee Chand case). By that measure, while they fully accept that Semenya is a woman, and that to exclude her unless she artificially reduces her testosterone level is discrimination, it is necessary to ensure the integrity of the competition. Similar (I think more stringent?) requirements are also placed on male to female transgender athletes.

It is debatable if a reasonable medical professional could prescribe drugs to do this testosterone reduction to a healthy female athlete. As I understand it, it wouldn't be within the normal scope of the drug use, and so ethically it is extremely dubious.

Rachel McKinnon argues that having to reduce her level of testosterone infringes her human rights, and she shouldn't have to do this. I have less sympathy with her than I do with Semenya, because I think that there are more "integrity of competition" questions. Maybe this is just a bias and I am discriminating against her, in which case I apologise. Many TERFs (and just transphobes) are of the opinion that she shouldn't be allowed to compete at all because she has physical advantages due to growing up with a male level of hormones. I think there ought to be some science done on this to determine the level of advantage (if any) is gained, and the testosterone reduction rules as they are seem to have created a level playing field and maintained the integrity of competition.

I recognise that I'm in a massively privileged position of being a white cis male, so if I have not captured some nuance (and I'm sure there is some element of racism involved - the 2 most recent CAS cases being brought by BAME women) I would appreciate being corrected.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 03 May, 2019, 02:38:20 pm
A thoughtful reply. Thank you.

First, Casters is female, and within the range of development that females fall into. She no more deserves "special" treatment than Sharron Davies, who is much taller and more muscular than the typical female range. There is also Polycystic Ovary Syndrome, which produces raised testosterone levels in women. The reaction of the TERFs is "Oh.... Squirrel! Look!". In essence, if one natural genetic variation is to be penalised, what others should be hit?

Second, Casters, as I explained to Citoyen, is not trans. She is collateral damage resulting from a hate campaign against trans women driven by TERFs. You have hit the nail squarely there, because an awful lot of TERFs are out-and-out racists. "Posie Parker", for example, is a Tommy Yaxley-Pseudonym supporter. Other bigotry involves misandry (look up 'political lesbian') and biphobia. The general claim is that the single most oppressed group of people on the planet are affluent, white, well-educated women living in nice areas. The hate group meetings have a demography that almost entirely maps that of the KKK.

Third, there has been a scientific experiment running for the last 15 years. It is called "The Olympics". According to the haters, every event and record in the women's field should now be dominated by trans women. The results are clear, in that there are no trans women competitors at all, never mind record-breakers. It would therefore appear that the measures put in place by the IOC not only work, but could be considered as excessively rigorous.

Finally, please avoid using DSD. It is a term with a long history, and it is not well-liked by those who fall within the category (like myself*). Originally, the first D was for 'disorder', then it stood for 'difference'. A preferred term now is "Variations in Sexual Characteristics" (VSC), and there is a frequent separation into Intersex/VSC. The idea is that intersex people have characteristics from both sides of binary sex, whereas VSC people (such as those with hypospadias) are clearly one or the other conventional binary sex.

As a matter of interest, the hate forums (who routinely claim that trans rights supporters, including Keira Knightley, are 'obvs' trans women**) are now demanding that Casters be stripped of all her medals and records. They are also targeting a selection of other athletes (ALL BAME) who they 'suspect' are trans or I/VSC.

*I have had at least three operations, starting from infancy, that were done to correct my genitalia. Among other procedures, I have had a gonad removed from my abdomen. The reasons for such procedures, the last one being at age 25, have neither been disclosed nor accurately recorded. The first operation, which produced an interesting collection of scar tissue around my scrotum, was not recorded at all.

** The usual term is "TIM", standing for "Trans Identified Male". In Casters' case, the discussion has been about 'backwards countries'. As said, the KKK would love these people, and do: their allies pay for them to visit the USA.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 03 May, 2019, 03:13:16 pm
Apologies for using the wrong term - I was following this article which I took to be non-offensive seeing as he was part of Caster Semenyas team: https://sportsscientists.com/2019/05/on-dsds-the-theory-of-testosterone-performance-the-cas-ruling-on-caster-semenya/

While I agree with much of what you say, I don't agree that the Olympics is a scientific experiment. It is evidence of sorts, but it has so many compounding variables that it is not a well designed experiment. For example, we don't know how many athletes are suppressing their hormones in a way to allow them to compete under the IOC rules. Maybe the rules carry such a burden so as to make the rest of life too unpleasant to maintain such a treatment regime.  Maybe this is because when doing so, even the exceptionally talented are unable to hit the times to make it to the Olympics. Maybe it is because there are relatively few people who have VSC and the few that combine this with athletic talent have been hounded out of the sport by their coaches/peers. Maybe there are some who have done so and are not public about it?

As for stripping of records, she was within the rules at the time.  Even if you accept them as they are now, those medals and records stand.

Out of curiosity, do you think that Rachel McKinnon is correct, and she should be able to compete with no hormone suppression? While I appreciate it is may not be optimal for health, I find it hard to balance that concept with a protected category for women. There are many athletes who will take action damaging to their health in order to be able to compete in a particular category (eg boxers/jockeys cutting to make weight), but we accept that in order to maintain the categorisation system.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 03 May, 2019, 03:41:27 pm
(BTW, why the quotation marks?)

Because, for one reason, among others:

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Trans women are women

The terminology around this subject is politically charged and philosophically problematic. I'll leave it at that for now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jasmine on 03 May, 2019, 04:49:16 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women ... wins another casualty in Casters Semenya.

Caster Semenya is not a "trans woman"


I could look at a swimming or running champion like Sharron Davies or Paula Radcliffe, and shout "CHEAT!" back. They are both taller by far than the average woman, so have inborn genetic advantages. How does that differ from Semenya? Should we start excluding e.g. Kenyan distance runners because their genetics makes them "CHEATS!" due to their cardiovascular system?


It differs for 2 reasons:
1. As DuncanM has described, the female category in sports stands opposite the 'open' category.  At some levels, it is specified as male or female, but it is often 'open' and then 'female', with the latter being a restricted category. To have a restricted category, there needs to be a delineator.  The IAAF want to include testosterone, which is a substance known to increase performance, where there is a significant difference between male and female production.
2. The limit imposed is 3 times the 95th percentile of testosterone production in all women. In your example, Davies and Radcliffe would need to be nearly 5 metres tall. If they were 5 metres tall, I'm fairly certain people would consider that to be an unfair advantage.



Second, Casters, as I explained to Citoyen, is not trans. She is collateral damage resulting from a hate campaign against trans women driven by TERFs. You have hit the nail squarely there, because an awful lot of TERFs are out-and-out racists. "Posie Parker", for example, is a Tommy Yaxley-Pseudonym supporter. Other bigotry involves misandry (look up 'political lesbian') and biphobia. The general claim is that the single most oppressed group of people on the planet are affluent, white, well-educated women living in nice areas. The hate group meetings have a demography that almost entirely maps that of the KKK.



The questions surrounding Semenya have been ongoing since 2009, when she underwent a 'sex test' (unknown to her) before a major championships. Trying to claim that this is a hate campaign and representative of a trans issue is actually quite insulting to the woman who is simply trying to argue that she should be able to run as the woman she is. She's quite right to feel aggrieved - there hasn't been a consistent rule, and she has found herself at the sharp end of a system that can now test for things, whilst needing to ask 'should we test for these things?'

Telling Citoyen to check his privilege is jarring - women of colour often remind white women (and men) that feminism needs to be inclusive feminism. Using a woman of colour as your political football is no better than what you are accusing the people you refer to as TERFs of doing. Your posts also suggest that you perhaps haven't spent as much time reflecting on your own privilege as you are asking others to do - you refer to 'Casters' in all of your posts. If you were referring to the well-known cyclist Bradley Wiggins, would you refer to him as Bradley, or would you, as most commentators would, refer to him as 'Wiggins'? The tendency to refer to female sportspeople by their first name, and male sportspeople by their surname, is a form of gender discrimination.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 05 May, 2019, 04:46:00 pm
Jasmine, the reason I have stressed the trans issue is something you seem to have missed from my comments, and explanation to Citoyen et al: The person we are talking about is collateral damage in a campaign that has, from the start, been about trans women. It started with Navratilova, and was then picked up by Davies and Radcliffe. The term used all along has been "cheat".

Citoyen:
"The terminology around this subject is politically charged and philosophically problematic. I'll leave it at that for now."

No. Not acceptable, and false equivalence, unless you also think that discussions about race and sexuality should also be treated as "politically etc".

For example:
Gay "marriage".
Black "people".

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 May, 2019, 07:00:34 pm
In a parallel universe, someone has just mentioned their own private parallel universe in which Forest Green Rovers are Premier League champions. And this person was not Jaded!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: andyoxon on 07 May, 2019, 09:55:09 pm
Liverpool v Barcelona...  :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 07 May, 2019, 10:19:27 pm
That last goal!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fimm on 08 May, 2019, 12:12:07 pm
Her name is Caster Semenya. Not Casters.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 08 May, 2019, 01:13:16 pm
That last goal!

I'm not going to get tired of watching that in a hurry.

For anyone who missed it:
https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1125888430511132675
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on 08 May, 2019, 10:07:47 pm
That last goal!
... and again! This time just how late it was.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 09 May, 2019, 09:06:33 am
Quote from: fimm on Yesterday at 12:12:07 pm
Her name is Caster Semenya. Not Casters.


My error. Now, I note that the regulations that have come in for "DSD" athletes [an abbreviation abhorred by I/VSC people like me, whichever of the words the first 'D' is meant to stand for) ONLY apply to those with XY conditions. In other words, the shouting and yelling about cheating and unfair advantage of extra testosterone only applies to intersex people with XY chromosomes. Not I/VSC or endosex people with XX genotypes.

In other words, endosex women with e.g. polycystic ovary syndrome (one symptom: excess T) or XX intersex people with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (main symptom: excess T) are not being targeted.

Jasmine, as you can see, your explanation about T-levels is correct only in as far as the new regs will apply to a specific group of intersex women, and only them. In short, a perfectly normal genetic variation, as normal as hair colour, is being singled out for control.

As for this idea of "open" versus "women's" categories. that is not correct. The division has always been male or female. This "open" nonsense is an artefact of the anti-trans lobby, whose hatred of one tiny group of women has led directly to the ruin of another woman's sporting career. But then the bigots don't actually give a shit who gets hurt, as long as they can shout "PENIS!" at trans women and call it "reasonable, evidence-based debate"

Sharron Davies, just to confirm my suspicions of "Oh, her skin's a bit dark, isn't it?"-ism, is now retweeting posts from Nick Griffin. That was followed by her comments about Africa being a bit backward.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 09 May, 2019, 09:19:28 am
In a parallel universe, someone has just mentioned their own private parallel universe in which Forest Green Rovers are Premier League champions. And this person was not Jaded!

A couple more years yet, I think!

Play-off semi final tomorrow, with Tranmere up for revenge for the play-off final two years ago.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 May, 2019, 09:42:05 am
In a parallel universe, someone has just mentioned their own private parallel universe in which Forest Green Rovers are Premier League champions. And this person was not Jaded!

A couple more years yet, I think!

Play-off semi final tomorrow, with Tranmere up for revenge for the play-off final two years ago.
My prediction: Rovers for the win! But which Rovers?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 May, 2019, 02:44:34 pm

Play-off semi final tomorrow, with Tranmere up for revenge for the play-off final two years ago.


This could lead to ructions among the members of Half Man Half Biscuit, since Nigel Blackwell and bassist Neil Crossley are rabid Tranmere supporters while drummer Carl Henry has been spotted wearing an FGR shirt during gigs.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on 19 May, 2019, 09:26:29 pm
Well done Billy Monger!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 May, 2019, 03:27:43 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2019/may/26/charlton-athletic-v-sunderland-league-one-play-off-final-live

I don't know if the people in charge of the graphics have given that page any thought at all.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 27 May, 2019, 12:39:56 pm
Come on you Reds ;D  Professor Larrington anf lifelong Charlton supporter Dr Davis were there.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 04 June, 2019, 04:00:25 pm
A fair and balanced evidence-based debate.

https://twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1135605424336572416
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on 25 June, 2019, 12:56:53 pm
I rarely purchase a jersey from my#localteam.  I should stick with this policy, as they have lost 4 matches in a row since I bought it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 June, 2019, 08:05:06 pm
Someone left a Liverpool FC beanie hat on a fence post next to today's obligatory standing stone.  May well be the most northerly Liverpool FC beanie hat in BRITAIN.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on 13 July, 2019, 11:24:32 am
I rarely purchase a jersey from my#localteam.  I should stick with this policy, as they have lost 4 matches in a row since I bought it.
Since it has been in the wash and hiding in the closet my#localteam have won all their games.  I would be tempted to burn it if it would continue our unbeaten run.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 July, 2019, 11:29:58 am
You should post it to a random address in the town of your#local team's biggest rivals.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 13 July, 2019, 01:21:39 pm
Mayor of the 8e Arrondissement of Paris after the Algerian football team reached the final of the Coupe d'Affrique and their supporters in Paris converged on the Champs Elysées:

"It's not normal to celebrate your team winning with petrol bombs and a chain saw".
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: hellymedic on 29 July, 2019, 09:30:59 pm
I don't follow sport but this young lass is amazeballs!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/49152183 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/49152183)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 14 August, 2019, 08:09:10 pm
In the pub, they are watching Liverpool  v Chelsea in something called 'The Super Cup'. (No. I've no idea either)
I've noticed that all three officials are women.  Is that a common thing these days?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 14 August, 2019, 10:11:26 pm
The UEFA Super Cup is between the winners of the Champions League and the Europa League. It's been going 44 years in various forms. Prior to the Europa League it was between the winners of the Champions League (ex: European Cup) and the UEFA Cup Winner's Cup (which preceded the Europa League).

It's the first time a female has officiated in the final of a UEFA men's competition.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 August, 2019, 07:42:59 am
So, a sort of European Charity Shield without the Charity.  Or the Shield.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 15 August, 2019, 08:23:12 am
Not that many Europeans, either.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 15 August, 2019, 11:48:30 pm
The mighty Furryboottoon AFC won it recently*.





*FCVO recently.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 23 August, 2019, 10:40:57 am
5 sets of tickets in the Euro 2020 draw.

3 Group D games (which will be England's group assuming they don't screw up and fail to qualify). One Round-of-16 game and one of the Semi finals.

Tickets were the lowest category so 50EUR for the group and r-o-16 games and 85EUR for the semi final.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 September, 2019, 10:20:35 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rKWEUQBicw&fbclid=IwAR0Ks3YnmyNIEAgRbUulTsQl3_IY0OtyAGWWVHmOZH1R4cc19r5xGhOchp4

Liverpool manager refuses to talk to a Sun "journalist". Good man!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 September, 2019, 11:56:54 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/sep/24/colchester-tottenham-carabao-cup-match-report

Good grief!

Colchester beat Leeds in 1971. I was still at school then.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 25 September, 2019, 05:51:36 am
And with Somerset looking shaky for the cricket due to weather, it's not looking good for my teams this week.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 September, 2019, 12:26:09 am
And another bit of Good Grief! 0 - 0 and a win for the underdog on penalties is noteworthy. A "League 1" side hammering a top Premiership side 4 - 0 is amazing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 26 September, 2019, 06:21:40 am
And another three premiership sides going down to championship opposition last night.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 October, 2019, 09:03:46 pm
It must be quite some time since both Manchesters United & City lost on the same day.

Edit: September 13th 2013 was one such, West Brom beating United and Aston Villa beating City. I don't know if it was the last time. The source I found which revealed this said it was 5 years since the last time they both lost on the same day.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 October, 2019, 10:43:46 pm
I've just seen a photo of Gareth Bale celebrating a goal.

He looks just like Alun Wyn Jones in a wig.

Has anyone ever seen them together?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 13 October, 2019, 11:41:57 pm
Alun Wyn Jones is three times the size of Bale.

Alun Wyn Jones watches over us while we sleep.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 14 October, 2019, 12:39:47 am
Alun Wyn Jones doesn't look like someone who'd ever contemplate wearing his hair in a man-bun.

And WRT that tonsorial question, one should always defer to Toshiro Mifune. ;)

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/93/83/5c/93835c8f723a4bdcf110b382fcbf2038--lol-funny-funny-jokes.jpg
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 October, 2019, 09:07:59 am
Alun Wyn Jones is three times the size of Bale.

Alun Wyn Jones watches over us while we sleep.

 ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 25 October, 2019, 10:51:50 pm
Well that wasn't so much a football match as a demolition job by Leicester against Southampton at St. Mary's tonight.  :o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50092694

The numbers (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/50043091?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5db360a256de320670a0aa4d%26The%20numbers%262019-10-25T21%3A50%3A34.297Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:e8e07fe6-e34e-46be-8dd1-92bb73da8dfa&pinned_post_asset_id=5db360a256de320670a0aa4d&pinned_post_type=share)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 26 October, 2019, 09:39:58 pm
Probably best to steer clear of Swansea on Sunday.
Pubs open at 8am for the rugby. (as they will across Wales)
Then at 12 noon we have the local derby, Swansea  v Cardiff football which is always a big police overtime job.
It ain't gonna be pretty.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 19 November, 2019, 10:19:32 pm
Maybe this will et a thread of its own at some stage, but it appears that Wales have beaten Hungary 2 - 0 in fupbol and have qualified for the European Championships.

Pity that they won't be able to play because of Brexit. ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 20 November, 2019, 11:41:21 am
Maybe this will et a thread of its own at some stage, but it appears that Wales have beaten Hungary 2 - 0 in fupbol and have qualified for the European Championships.

Pity that they won't be able to play because of Brexit. ;)
We'll still be part of UEFA. The boundaries are somewhat fuzzy, Israel are also a member! :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 November, 2019, 12:38:57 pm
Maybe this will et a thread of its own at some stage, but it appears that Wales have beaten Hungary 2 - 0 in fupbol and have qualified for the European Championships.

Pity that they won't be able to play because of Brexit. ;)
We'll still be part of UEFA. The boundaries are somewhat fuzzy, Israel are also a member! :)

I know. Tongue in cheek. But I wonder how "Football Lads for Democracy" (aka Twattish Thugs) see this?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 20 November, 2019, 01:14:52 pm
Maybe this will et a thread of its own at some stage, but it appears that Wales have beaten Hungary 2 - 0 in fupbol and have qualified for the European Championships.

Pity that they won't be able to play because of Brexit. ;)
We'll still be part of UEFA. The boundaries are somewhat fuzzy, Israel are also a member! :)

I know. Tongue in cheek. But I wonder how "Football Lads for Democracy" (aka Twattish Thugs) see this?
They wouldn't want to lose their opportunity to go abroad, get drunk and throw chairs around surely?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 21 November, 2019, 03:32:27 pm
Maybe this will et a thread of its own at some stage, but it appears that Wales have beaten Hungary 2 - 0 in fupbol and have qualified for the European Championships.

Pity that they won't be able to play because of Brexit. ;)
We'll still be part of UEFA. The boundaries are somewhat fuzzy, Israel are also a member! :)

I know. Tongue in cheek. But I wonder how "Football Lads for Democracy" (aka Twattish Thugs) see this?
They wouldn't want to lose their opportunity to go abroad, get drunk and throw chairs around surely?

Just wait till they need a visa to travel to watch a rugby match in France or Italy ...

Particularly if the drunken loutish behaviour at a football match results in record which prevents approval.  :demon:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Edd on 21 November, 2019, 05:05:36 pm
Maybe this will et a thread of its own at some stage, but it appears that Wales have beaten Hungary 2 - 0 in fupbol and have qualified for the European Championships.

Pity that they won't be able to play because of Brexit. ;)
We'll still be part of UEFA. The boundaries are somewhat fuzzy, Israel are also a member! :)

I know. Tongue in cheek. But I wonder how "Football Lads for Democracy" (aka Twattish Thugs) see this?
They wouldn't want to lose their opportunity to go abroad, get drunk and throw chairs around surely?

Just wait till they need a visa to travel to watch a rugby match in France or Italy ...

Particularly if the drunken loutish behaviour at a football match results in record which prevents approval.  :demon:

Yes, and european club matches, next games in three weeks, tickets go on sale in a week, visa takes four...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 22 November, 2019, 09:32:40 am
Isn't there a proposal for some scheme akin to an ESTA for post-Brexit BRITONS to travel to Europe?  I'm sure I remember the Daily Fail frothing at the mouth over it: How very dare those arrogant FOREIGNS charge us to visit their benighted countries, probably with a gratuitous reference to D-Day thrown in.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on 26 November, 2019, 11:47:17 am
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/nov/25/wada-recommend-four-year-ban-russia-athletics?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTExMjY%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 November, 2019, 02:32:03 pm
I don't follow football especially - not to watch it at any rate - but I do take some interest in the results.

I thought today's match between Newcastle and Man City was noteworthy. If you don't want to know the result, don't click!

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 30 November, 2019, 05:15:38 pm
I'd call it a good result for Liverpool.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 December, 2019, 10:41:38 pm
I understand that the FA were investigating the possibility of playing an England game at Anfield. One of their conditions was that Sun journalists would be at the game. Liverpool FC told them where to go.

Utter respect!

https://www.football365.com/news/liverpool-refuse-to-reconsider-sun-ban-to-host-england-game
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 09 December, 2019, 01:10:12 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/nov/25/wada-recommend-four-year-ban-russia-athletics?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTExMjY%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email

Four year ban imposed for trying to be a smart Aleksey with the anti-doping lab database.

https://apnews.com/1c4e9860a411abff9db61c58eeef947c?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

Cue the inevitable chorus from the bots and poleznyy idioty:"Is of fake news! Is not of Boris and Natasha, but is workings of Ukraine and NATO sodomite moose and squirrel snipers!"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 09 December, 2019, 07:04:29 pm
Wow. Can't say I'm at all surprised, but this is still pretty huge  ::-)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 09 December, 2019, 07:22:23 pm
Meanwhile - When he bowls, it's like magic (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2019/dec/05/south-african-spin-bowler-tabraiz-shamsi-celebrates-wicket-with-magic-trick-video)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 10 December, 2019, 02:19:56 pm
Magic tricks don't work so well in slow-motion replay.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 December, 2019, 12:11:53 pm
New stadium for Forest Green Rovers approved. https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/forest-green-stadium-stroud-council-3657749
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on 22 December, 2019, 02:45:40 pm
Last night (well early morning for the majority of you), I went to a hockey match. A match I had waited about 25 years to see. I went, with my buddy Doug, to watch the Chicago Blackhawks play. It was a brilliant experience, made all the better by the Hawks winning. Doug wasn't too happy, though, as he is an Avalanche fan....
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 22 December, 2019, 02:56:37 pm
New stadium for Forest Green Rovers approved. https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/forest-green-stadium-stroud-council-3657749

Ah yes.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 December, 2019, 10:00:19 pm
New stadium for Forest Green Rovers approved. https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/forest-green-stadium-stroud-council-3657749

Ah yes.
Maybe.
https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/18121979.stroud-mp-backs-calls-independent-assessment-new-forest-green-stadium/
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 January, 2020, 09:31:18 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2020/jan/02/liverpool-v-sheffield-united-premier-league-live

Another of those handy colour charts showing match statistics in which both teams are shown in red...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 02 January, 2020, 11:57:25 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2020/jan/02/liverpool-v-sheffield-united-premier-league-live

Another of those handy colour charts showing match statistics in which both teams are shown in red...

At least they're different shades of red.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 January, 2020, 12:21:28 am
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2020/jan/02/liverpool-v-sheffield-united-premier-league-live

Another of those handy colour charts showing match statistics in which both teams are shown in red...

At least they're different shades of red.

Could you see that? Or did you get some digital assistance?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 03 January, 2020, 11:37:24 am
Only one colour visible to me. At least they labeled it. Unlabeled pie charts are the work of satan.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Ben T on 16 January, 2020, 01:09:24 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-51129653 kids heading football to be banned in scotland... made me wonder if there is a pitch that is on the border, are they allowed to head it while in the england half ... :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 17 January, 2020, 09:03:46 pm
Also makes me wonder why they are planning on letting kids execute a skill without getting any training or practise on it.
They should just play futsal and be done.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 17 January, 2020, 09:11:37 pm
Also makes me wonder why they are planning on letting kids execute a skill without getting any training or practise on it.

From the Alan Shearer BBC documentary "Dementia, Football and me" it was specifically the heading in training that was the major contributory factor. Footballers would head the ball 150+ times each training session, with multiple training sessions per week, but only executed a few headers in an actual game.

Sure, if you don't practice it you may not be as good at it come the actual game, but there's too much practice of it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 19 January, 2020, 11:17:42 am
I'm not saying they shouldn't ban it in training. Just that they should ban it in games too, because it is a fundamentally bad idea to get someone to try to execute a skill in a game at full throttle when you can't build up to it in a safe environment. The first time you try to head a ball (in your life) might be when the goalie has kicked it half the length of the pitch and it's dropping towards you out of the clouds.
Imagine if someone said that tackling in rugbi causes head injuries (it does) - let's ban it from training and only allow it in games. Also, bluntly, if it's allowed in games, and it conveys a competitive advantage, kids (and their parents) are going to be practising it at home with no understanding of proper technique.

As I said, futsal teaches everything you need to play football except for heading - just play futsal in training and games.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 January, 2020, 12:00:28 am
Top-level footballers look incredibly young. No doubt that some of this is down to me becoming increasingly old.

I have just been watching highlights of Chelsea v Arsenal. They all looked like teenagers. I couldn't see any equivalent of "Chopper" Harris, David Webb, Tony Adams or Charlie George. All mere striplings by comparison.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on 26 January, 2020, 11:57:20 pm
https://twitter.com/matthewchampion/status/1221557555652153344?s=20

I used to follow NBA back in Jordan's days, but have heard about Kobe. RIP Kobe

Just how can BBC run the wrong video when his name is on the shirt ... Clearly don't care about factual news anymore.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 27 January, 2020, 03:31:02 am
Dangerous things, helichopters.  You'll only get me in one if it's an air ambulance.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 27 January, 2020, 06:49:54 am
Having been in one that fell out of the sky the next day (22 dead, gearbox failed in the cruise on the way back from offshore) I can only agree with you.  There is no way you would get me in one as a recreational activity, and I had a serious internal dialogue before getting back in one for work.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 20 February, 2020, 11:06:24 am
Bah!
Salford beat Newpot County 6-5 on penalties to go to the EFL Cup final. Financial doping!!!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 20 February, 2020, 12:51:41 pm
In other more amusing news, if you type "empty seats" into google maps, it takes you to the Etihad. :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 25 February, 2020, 02:25:11 pm
Also makes me wonder why they are planning on letting kids execute a skill without getting any training or practise on it.
They should just play futsal and be done.

Or follow the example of Walter WIgmore (25/2/1873* - 1931), whose professional career lasted 20 years. According to his wiki entry,
Quote
He was often penalised for dangerous play due to his unusual reluctance to head the ball, preferring to use his feet however high the ball came to him
In other words, if anyone's getting brain damage as a result of this high ball, it's not going to be me.

* Happy Birthday Walter.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 26 February, 2020, 09:27:16 pm
Poster girl that played some tennis not as good without the drugs, it turned out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/51647687
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 27 February, 2020, 06:26:19 pm
Poster girl that played some tennis not as good without the drugs, it turned out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/51647687
"played some tennis"?!? That's a bit harsh!

Quote
... winning 36 singles titles and earning more than $38m (£29m) in prize money.
That's PRIZE money, not endorsement deals, modelling etc.

I assumed you meant Kournikova, or the OTHER tennis poster girl - you know which one I mean!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 27 February, 2020, 06:31:55 pm
I assumed you meant Kournikova, or the OTHER tennis poster girl - you know which one I mean!

She got a bum deal compared with the Russians.

IGMC...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 29 February, 2020, 01:15:50 pm
I assumed you meant Kournikova, or the OTHER tennis poster girl - you know which one I mean!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-12833580
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 April, 2020, 07:12:52 pm
Strava cheats

There is an April running badge for 5km.
When you complete it, you are seen a table of fastest times.

This includes multiple people who have over 10km this month at an average pace of 2min 30s

That's faster than the world record for 10km

Either they are amazing undiscovered athletes or riding a bicycle.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on 02 April, 2020, 07:19:54 pm
There's always a little lag for those to get removed. People start an activity using the app and fail to notice it's set to run, and there's no incentive for the original person to fix it.

Strava go through and clean up stuff like that every so often.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 August, 2020, 09:15:14 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/aug/14/dylan-hartley-reveals-eddie-joness-brutal-three-word-end-england-phone-call-rugby-union

That looks like an interesting read.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 November, 2020, 03:53:55 pm
today I found out that my old PE teacher became one of the very few (206 according to wiki) people to have run a marathon on all 7 continents.

It isn't surprising that he would do such a thing, but I was surprised to realise that he was only 27 when I moved to senior school and he taught us. Thought of him as middle-aged and he is only 14 years older than me.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 November, 2020, 06:39:18 pm
That's what running marathons does for you...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 November, 2020, 11:25:59 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kct77O3oI0g&ab_channel=AmazonPrimeVideoSport

Excellent try by Jonny May.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 December, 2020, 03:22:54 pm
Recently I've been watching a few Premier League matches 'live' thanks to my son's South American River of Evil Prime account (I'd like to see Liverpool v Spurs tonight but he's going out). What has struck me is the distinctive way all the pundits in the punditry box hold their microphones. Instead of using desk mics or clip-ons, like most shows would do, they all have hand-held mics which they clasp right in an identical pose: dead vertical, right in front of their chest. Like a pint glass, it strikes me. I'm not sure whether they pint-glass pose is deliberate as a blokey pubby footy thingy, or more likely it's to do with displaying logos. They must be instructed on it though, it's so uniform.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 04 January, 2021, 11:24:03 am
Pinch yourself Andrij, the Browns are in the Playoffs!!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 04 January, 2021, 11:39:33 am
And the Eagles are doing their best to annoy everyone it's possible to annoy. If they beat Washington, the Giants would go to the playoffs, so they sat a bunch of starters, went for it on 4th and goal when down 17-14, then benched the QB for the 3rd choice who promptly threw an interception and gave up a fumble. That they only lost 20-14 (at home) was basically down to Washington not having an offense. Eagles fans are annoyed, Giants fans are furious (after going 6-10 they think they should be in the playoffs!  ::-) ), and all the quarterbacks are confused. Plus the head coach (who made most of those baffling decisions) is staying, but the defensive co-ordinator (who everyone likes) is leaving. God knows what they are gonna do with the 6th pick in the draft.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 09 January, 2021, 12:32:17 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50817056271_22d3827aed_o.jpg) (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jan/08/marine-greatest-day-fa-cup-tottenham-non-league)

Arf  :)



ETA: I just thought that being as it's sportsball they could've made the headline "Crosby, thrills, cash and bung".
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 January, 2021, 10:00:39 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jan/10/crawley-leeds-fa-cup-match-report

Just in case there's someone who doesn't want to know the result...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 March, 2021, 08:53:13 pm
Normal service has now been resumed, but on 19 minutes, the score was Austria 0 - 1 Faeroe Islands.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 06 April, 2021, 10:55:48 am
North Korea has announced the withdrawal of their team from the Tokyo Olympics, citing "protection of athletes from the world crisis caused by COVID-19".
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 April, 2021, 12:23:51 pm
Goals Galore as Gas Girls Gallop over Gloucester! (https://www.bristol247.com/sport/football/gas-girls-score-22-goals-in-record-win/)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 May, 2021, 08:44:54 pm
With the Manchesters City and Untied through to the finals of the Champions and Europa League, I'm wondering if it's ever happened before that two clubs from one city have progressed to these finals in the same year? For instance, Real and Atletico, Milan and Inter, or, let's say, Nottingham Forest and Notts County? Okay, maybe not that last one...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 07 May, 2021, 08:47:04 pm
With the Manchesters City and Untied through to the finals of the Champions and Europa League, I'm wondering if it's ever happened before that two clubs from one city have progressed to these finals in the same year? For instance, Real and Atletico, Milan and Inter, or, let's say, Nottingham Forest and Notts County? Okay, maybe not that last one...

Lots of big London clubs, so maybe.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 May, 2021, 08:52:12 pm
The only London-based CL winner has been Chelsea in 2012, and the UEFA cup that year was won by Atletico Madrid. So unfortunately not.

But in looking that up I did find that when Ipswich became unlikely UEFA cup winners (1981) the club they beat in the final was called AZ, which stands for Alkmaar Zeneca*.

*Blatant lie.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 08 May, 2021, 09:29:58 pm
I'm surprised they keep records.  The Europa thing is only a money-making thing for teams of the second rank.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 May, 2021, 10:51:15 pm
The only London-based CL winner has been Chelsea in 2012, and the UEFA cup that year was won by Atletico Madrid. So unfortunately not.
But that's irrelevant! The point here is not winning but reaching the final, and Arsenal have certainly done that, I think twice. And I have a feeling Spurs(!) won one of the first editions of the UEFA cup.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 May, 2021, 07:28:36 pm
Leicester have, this afternoon, wrecked a perfectly good hardy perennial quiz question, viz.: "Which team has appeared in more FA cup finals than any other, without actually winning the trophy?"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 15 May, 2021, 09:36:23 pm
Leicester have, this afternoon, wrecked a perfectly good hardy perennial quiz question, viz.: "Which team has appeared in more FA cup finals than any other, without actually winning the trophy?"

Won't somebody think of the children quiz setters?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 15 May, 2021, 10:05:24 pm
Pedantically, Leicester still hold that record, I think?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 May, 2021, 11:54:26 pm
Well I say Hurrah! for Plucky Little Leicester :P

And so, I imagine, does Gary Winston Lineker OBE.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 May, 2021, 12:50:42 am
Pedantically, Leicester still hold that record, I think?

That, of course, is true and the quiz question still holds as long as you word it correctly!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: L CC on 16 May, 2021, 08:28:17 am
I rode past a house who were Really Going For It in terms of Leicester support - bunting, flags, posters in every window.

In Lincoln.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 May, 2021, 12:21:13 pm
I suppose that Leicester would be the closest premiership team to Lincoln. <checks map>

Crikey! I'm always caught out by how far north Lincoln is. It's much closer to Sheffield than Leicester, but Sheffield Utd. won't be a premiership side when this season's over. So I'm nearly right... ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on 16 May, 2021, 02:50:18 pm
Closer to Leicester than Chelsea thoughbut
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 May, 2021, 09:41:40 pm
And Chelsea have already lost two of their three big cup finals this season. Will it be third time lucky for them?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: John Stonebridge on 18 May, 2021, 07:15:06 pm
With the Manchesters City and Untied through to the finals of the Champions and Europa League, I'm wondering if it's ever happened before that two clubs from one city have progressed to these finals in the same year? For instance, Real and Atletico, Milan and Inter, or, let's say, Nottingham Forest and Notts County? Okay, maybe not that last one...

When Celtic became the first British team to win the European Cup in 1967 Glasgow Rangers competed in the European Cup Winners Cup final a week or so later losing to Bayern Munich.  Back in the day there were 3 European competitions of course, but the ECWC has now gone by the wayside.     
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 May, 2021, 09:15:33 pm
With the Manchesters City and Untied through to the finals of the Champions and Europa League, I'm wondering if it's ever happened before that two clubs from one city have progressed to these finals in the same year? For instance, Real and Atletico, Milan and Inter, or, let's say, Nottingham Forest and Notts County? Okay, maybe not that last one...

When Celtic became the first British team to win the European Cup in 1967 Glasgow Rangers competed in the European Cup Winners Cup final a week or so later losing to Bayern Munich.  Back in the day there were 3 European competitions of course, but the ECWC has now gone by the wayside.     
Thank you.

Three European competitions again from next year, but none of the Cup Winners Cup.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: John Stonebridge on 19 May, 2021, 08:57:32 am
With the Manchesters City and Untied through to the finals of the Champions and Europa League, I'm wondering if it's ever happened before that two clubs from one city have progressed to these finals in the same year? For instance, Real and Atletico, Milan and Inter, or, let's say, Nottingham Forest and Notts County? Okay, maybe not that last one...

When Celtic became the first British team to win the European Cup in 1967 Glasgow Rangers competed in the European Cup Winners Cup final a week or so later losing to Bayern Munich.  Back in the day there were 3 European competitions of course, but the ECWC has now gone by the wayside.     
Thank you.

Three European competitions again from next year, but none of the Cup Winners Cup.

No probs.  I suspect that with Real Madrid having been very successful in the big competition, surely there will have been a year when Atleti did something similar in one of the others. 
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 23 May, 2021, 09:33:25 am
Now this is an extreme sport:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-57216601

Our school cross-country wasn't far off.  They'd send us out in all conditions, and there was even a stream to ford.  Nice in the snow or when the mud was ankle-deep.  In trainers, not boots.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 23 May, 2021, 01:52:28 pm
No probs.  I suspect that with Real Madrid having been very successful in the big competition, surely there will have been a year when Atleti did something similar in one of the others.

As recently as 2017-18, in fact, when Atleti beat Marseille in the Europa League final and the violent thuggish twats of Real STOLE the Champions League from Liverpool.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 23 May, 2021, 02:22:12 pm
That's awful, Roger. 

You made an aside about your school cross-country course.  I recognise your suffering.  You (and I) ran - or walked - "proper" cross-country courses, over rough terrain.  As well as fords, we had woods, tree-roots, ploughed fields and stiles to contend with.  I liked it because I was good at it but I can see how it might be mildly irritating to others!  The current European and World championships are invariably dominated by the needs of television technology and so the courses are very flat with occasional rises of about ten feet and a few yards of sand or gravel here and there.  If it's in Africa or Spain it will virtually be a track race.  Hence the pre-eminence of great track runners in cross-country, now, rather than specialists.  There should be MUD, it's cross-COUNTRY!  Also it's the only way a European who has to train in weather could ever win anything!

But this event you cite seems to have been a complete disaster.  I have my doubts about "extreme" events anyway because they can attract entrants who want the medal to take to work but have no real idea just how hard (and stupid) they are.  But the addition of appalling weather exacerbates the difficulty, obviously,  It's very, very sad.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 24 May, 2021, 06:37:11 am
I have my doubts about "extreme" events anyway because they can attract entrants who want the medal to take to work but have no real idea just how hard (and stupid) they are.  But the addition of appalling weather exacerbates the difficulty, obviously,
Have you heard about long-distance cycling? It's an even broader church, apparently.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: sg37409 on 27 May, 2021, 02:50:31 pm
Incredible penalty shoot-out at the end of the UEFA cup final last night.  11-10 !  I have to feel for the United goalie who missed his penalty !
(not a great game though.  And although the United bashers come out again, I still think this has been their best season in some time. I'm no United fan)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57224112
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 27 May, 2021, 04:12:06 pm
If I were a manure fan (which thank the lord I'm not sir) I'd be less worried about his ability at scoring penalties than the fact he hasn't managed to save one for Man u since 2016.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 27 May, 2021, 04:19:13 pm
Incredible penalty shoot-out at the end of the UEFA cup final last night.  11-10 !  I have to feel for the United goalie who missed his penalty !
(not a great game though.  And although the United bashers come out again, I still think this has been their best season in some time. I'm no United fan)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57224112
They were only in this competition because they failed so dismally in the champions league.  :demon: I hope they keep Ole.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 27 May, 2021, 04:23:25 pm
Whatever you think of Man United, the abuse that's been dished out to some of their players on social media is disgraceful. I can't begin to imagine what possesses people to behave that way - especially when they claim to be supporters of the club.

Absolute scum.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 27 May, 2021, 04:24:56 pm
They were only in this competition because they failed so dismally in the champions league.  :demon: I hope they keep Ole.

It's mad that some people seemed to seriously believe they were genuine title contenders this season. They will never be title contenders while Solskjaer is manager. He's totally out of his depth.

So yeah, hope he stays in the job for a long, long time.  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on 27 May, 2021, 06:45:21 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57268046
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Mauricio Pochettino: Tottenham contact former manager over return
RUDE
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 May, 2021, 06:51:03 pm
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Pochettino led Tottenham to the Champions League final in 2019, when they lost to Liverpool.

They also lost the 2015 League Cup final to Chelsea and were runners-up to Chelsea in the Premier League in 2016-17.
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Academy coach Ryan Mason was put in temporary charge until the end of the season. Under him, Spurs lost the Carabao Cup final to Manchester City and finished seventh in the Premier League season.
If you teleported back to the pre-Pochettino era and predicted Spurs would do these things, no one would have believed you.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on 28 May, 2021, 07:00:48 pm
Why would he go back, when he could win the Champion's League with PSG?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 May, 2021, 07:41:15 pm
There might be several reasons he would and several he wouldn't. My point was simply that he was good for Spurs.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on 04 June, 2021, 12:46:56 pm
Bloody Nike.

https://youtu.be/qBwtCf2X5jw
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 June, 2021, 06:22:24 pm
No cheering at the Tokyo Olympics (https://www.euronews.com/2021/06/21/tokyo-olympics-limited-local-fans-allowed-to-attend-but-no-cheering).  I trust the Organisators will be providing boards with “Hurrah!” written on one side and “Bah!” on the other.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 25 July, 2021, 01:15:53 pm
In the park this morning, I saw two teams limbering up on the cricket pitch.  Car park rammed and lots of spectators with camp chairs and picnics.
I asked one of them who the teams were.
"Cricket Wales South v Cricket Wales West".
I looked at the players and asked if it was the Under 20s perhaps. 
"No. Under 15s"
Blimey, there are some hefty 14 year olds about.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 August, 2021, 10:16:41 pm
At the time of me writing this, West Ham are top of the premiership.

Has this ever happened before? Either premiership or the real Div 1?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on 23 August, 2021, 10:32:37 pm
At the time of me writing this, West Ham are top of the premiership.

Has this ever happened before? Either premiership or the real Div 1?

Apparantly the last time was after the opening weekend of the 2006-07 season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 August, 2021, 10:37:12 pm
At the time of me writing this, West Ham are top of the premiership.

Has this ever happened before? Either premiership or the real Div 1?

Apparantly the last time was after the opening weekend of the 2006-07 season.

Cheers! It would be rather jolly if they were still there at the end of the season...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 August, 2021, 11:22:31 am
I believe that for an hour or so, Brentford were top. I wonder whether that has ever happened before.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on 24 August, 2021, 11:23:16 am
I thought it amusing last weekend when Arsenal went from top of the premier league table on alphabetical order to bottom on goal difference in the space of a couple of hours. I doubt that's ever happened before.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 24 August, 2021, 02:06:35 pm
Back when I were a lad, they never bothered publishing the table until after 10 games had been played.

I saw a comment in one report this morning that mentioned the leadership of the table had changed hands three times over the weekend, which is nothing more than a preposterous side-effect of the games being spread out from Saturday morning to Monday evening. The table is meaningless until all the extended weekend's fixtures have been played.

It would be rather jolly if they were still there at the end of the season...

Go and place a bet on it - you'll make a bookmaker very happy.

They're looking like a decent side now, and Moyes is doing a sterling job, but it would be a minor miracle if they were to pull off a top four place, never mind winning the league.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 August, 2021, 02:54:07 pm
They did win the FA cup recently.


For values of "recently" that not even Wowbagger would recognise. It was either 1980 or 81.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 29 August, 2021, 10:52:58 pm
And what has happened to the Arsenal? Have they replaced their first team with Southend rejects?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Beardy on 30 August, 2021, 10:27:26 am
And what has happened to the Arsenal? Have they replaced their first team with Southend rejects?
The thing that amazes me about Arsenal is that in spite of winning very little silverware over the last twenty or so years Arsen Wenger remains in charge.

A comment that probably exposes my extensive and in depth knowledge of sportball
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 30 August, 2021, 11:30:20 am
It certainly does!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 August, 2021, 11:32:15 am
And what has happened to the Arsenal? Have they replaced their first team with Southend rejects?
The thing that amazes me about Arsenal is that in spite of winning very little silverware over the last twenty or so years Arsen Wenger remains in charge.

A comment that probably exposes my extensive and in depth knowledge of sportball

The Arse ceased to manage Arsenal at the end of the 2017-18 season…
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 August, 2021, 01:29:19 pm
Fair Game campaign for financial fairness in football: https://thebristolcable.org/2021/08/why-bristol-rovers-joined-campaign-for-football-reform-league-two-fair-game/
The local angle is clearly self-interested but it's an interesting idea. I wonder how practical it is though? I wonder how many clubs currently would pass the max 70% of revenue on wages, for instance?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 30 August, 2021, 02:57:06 pm
Fair Game campaign for financial fairness in football: https://thebristolcable.org/2021/08/why-bristol-rovers-joined-campaign-for-football-reform-league-two-fair-game/
The local angle is clearly self-interested but it's an interesting idea. I wonder how practical it is though? I wonder how many clubs currently would pass the max 70% of revenue on wages, for instance?
Excluding Covid times, most PL clubs can meet the 70% ish, and some of the League 1 and League 2 clubs, but Championship clubs are absurdly over (I think I saw a stat saying they averaged 107% of turnover on wages!!!). The Fair Game people make a number of good points, and the key to making football more sustainable is to avoid the cliff edges between leagues. That article talks about how significant a drop from League 1 to League 2 is in terms of revenue, and the gaps are even more stark further up the pyramid. It's worth noting that there was an attempt to introduce a salary cap in Leagues 1 and 2 last year, but it got voted down because it was a hard cap and the bigger clubs that generate more revenue (Ipswich, Portsmouth, Sunderland etc) objected. They sort of have a point, in that it makes no sense to give Accrington Stanley (average attendance 2,700*) the same wage cap as Sunderland (average attendance 32,000*). A 70% cap would mean that Sunderland can spend twice as much as most other clubs in their league on wages (then again, they do now and they are still failing to get promoted!), while stopping an ambitious owner putting money into their club to try to grow it. You hear the same arguments about FFP at the top of the game, essentially pulling up the stepladder behind Chelsea, PSG and City to stop anyone else being able to do what they did.

* https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-league-one-2018-2019/1/
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 September, 2021, 01:03:18 am
Some people think it is all over... after 7 minutes.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/sep/05/brazil-v-argentina-abandoned-as-health-authorities-invade-pitch
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 19 September, 2021, 02:25:16 pm
It seems that my son-in-law's sister is a pretty shit hot distance runner.

Quote from: Daughter no. 1
Frances just ran 102 miles in a continuous 24 hours and came in as First Lady at the Cotswolds Way 100.

Having previously won the Bath Marathon as first woman about 5 weeks ago.
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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 October, 2021, 05:18:26 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/20/newcastle-urge-fans-to-avoid-culturally-inappropriate-clothing-at-games?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I haven’t really followed the shenanigans at Newcastle other than to say that if it’s below the normal moral standards of the premiership then it must be pretty bad. But the mental image I have of Jimmy Fivebellies and his ilk sporting Arab-style head dresses whilst otherwise stripped to the waist is quite amusing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 October, 2021, 07:56:15 pm
Not worth starting a thread for Wales's normal tonking by New Zealand.

The first ever rugby international I attended was Wales v Australia in the early 1970s when I was at college. As my mate and I returned to Cardiff station for our train back to Blackpool we overheard some Aussie guy say to one of the station staff "It's been a lifelong ambition of mine to see the Wallabies play at Cardiff." I hope he wasn't too disappointed as that was probably the weakest Australian side ever to go on tour and Wales won 20-odd to next to nothing when the try was 3 points.

Wales have never beaten New Zealand in my lifetime.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 October, 2021, 08:27:58 pm
Though the scoreboard did once read Llanelli 9, Seland Newydd 3…
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 October, 2021, 08:47:39 pm
Though the scoreboard did once read Llanelli 9, Seland Newydd 3…

It did!

Topical quiz question: Who said of his mother "She doesn't know a bugger about rugby, but she knows we won."?

(click to show/hide)

It may have been the same tour when East Gwent (I think) drew with the All Blacks and Barry John (for it was he) very narrowly missed a dropped goal attempt in the dying moments.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 October, 2021, 08:54:31 pm
Isn't it amazing what a bit of googling will unearth?

Different tour, but this is the match I had in mind - East Wales*, not East Gwent:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/dec/12/east-wales-new-zealand-1967

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Afterwards the All Blacks manager, Charlie Saxton, spoke to us, and said they were very, very fortunate not to have lost. It was a harsh lesson for a young player like me to learn, but the All Blacks absolutely never gave up until the game was over. Tony Steel went on a great run down the wing, and that was 3-3. It was just about the only chance they had. Even then, Barry John had a drop-goal chance at the death that just took the paint off the upright. Had we won it, against one of the greatest teams I ever played against, people would still be talking about it with great reverence. It was a wonderful performance by a side that had been put together literally in a week.

*I wouldn't think that West Wales would be able to raise much of a rugby team. Unless you count Llanelli as West Wales.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 30 October, 2021, 10:39:32 pm


Wales have never beaten New Zealand in my lifetime.

Wow, the ball (of whichever shape) appears to be in your court......
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 30 October, 2021, 10:43:56 pm
Oh. It was 'empathitic', the defeat.

Bollox to my (cannot spell it)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 November, 2021, 01:44:07 pm
Horse riding replaced by cycling in modern pentathlon in a bid to make it more, erm, modern:
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Horse riding is set to be dropped from the modern pentathlon programme following the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, a source with knowledge of the situation has told insidethegames.

The International Modern Pentathlon Union (UIPM) Executive Board held a meeting this week in which a vote to remove riding from the programme was passed, insidethegames has been told.

When contacted with this information, the UIPM did not deny the reports and said it would issue a statement on Thursday (November 4).

It offered an exclusive interview for insidethegames to not run the story.

It is believed that the UIPM could replace horse riding with cycling.
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1114916/riding-modern-pentathlon-uipm-olympics
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Hair_Today_Gone_Tomorrow on 02 November, 2021, 01:49:22 pm
Oh. It was 'empathitic', the defeat.

Bollox to my (cannot spell it)

I use "heavy"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 November, 2021, 01:46:23 pm
Horse riding replaced by cycling in modern pentathlon in a bid to make it more, erm, modern:
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Horse riding is set to be dropped from the modern pentathlon programme following the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, a source with knowledge of the situation has told insidethegames.

The International Modern Pentathlon Union (UIPM) Executive Board held a meeting this week in which a vote to remove riding from the programme was passed, insidethegames has been told.

When contacted with this information, the UIPM did not deny the reports and said it would issue a statement on Thursday (November 4).

It offered an exclusive interview for insidethegames to not run the story.

It is believed that the UIPM could replace horse riding with cycling.
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1114916/riding-modern-pentathlon-uipm-olympics
I think that is an excellent change, which will move the emphasis back on to the athletic ability of the competitors.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 November, 2021, 01:53:35 pm
I wonder how/if they'll keep the random aspect? Will they have a selection of identical bikes in a range of sizes? Or will getting the right size be part of the randomness? Or maybe they'll have different bikes, some faster, some slower, like you'd have a range of horses?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 November, 2021, 02:50:43 pm
Make it a cyclocross course and don't let them see the course ahead of event.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 06 November, 2021, 12:00:36 am
Horse riding replaced by cycling in modern pentathlon in a bid to make it more, erm, modern:
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Horse riding is set to be dropped from the modern pentathlon programme following the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, a source with knowledge of the situation has told insidethegames.

The International Modern Pentathlon Union (UIPM) Executive Board held a meeting this week in which a vote to remove riding from the programme was passed, insidethegames has been told.

When contacted with this information, the UIPM did not deny the reports and said it would issue a statement on Thursday (November 4).

It offered an exclusive interview for insidethegames to not run the story.

It is believed that the UIPM could replace horse riding with cycling.
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1114916/riding-modern-pentathlon-uipm-olympics
I think that is an excellent change, which will move the emphasis back on to the athletic ability of the competitors.

And lessens cruelty to animals.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 November, 2021, 07:27:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coOLycTzgxI&ab_channel=GGMONTAGES

Well done Scotland! I watched only those highlights, the editing of which was rather worse than amateurish, but apparently it was a mistake-riddled game. Hopefully Scotland will do well in the 6 nations next year. It's been a while since they were a force to be reckoned with.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 09 November, 2021, 12:53:14 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59169818 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59169818)

expecting twitter to fill up with "And I play for St Alban's!"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 09 November, 2021, 12:57:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coOLycTzgxI&ab_channel=GGMONTAGES

Well done Scotland! I watched only those highlights, the editing of which was rather worse than amateurish, but apparently it was a mistake-riddled game. Hopefully Scotland will do well in the 6 nations next year. It's been a while since they were a force to be reckoned with.

Amongst the countries who have tried it, I think it's only Italy who don't benefit from an influx of South Africans.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 November, 2021, 11:00:29 pm
Another great effort by Ireland.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 20 November, 2021, 12:38:32 pm
W.G. Grace's off stump gatepost found.
https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/features/it-was-like-indiana-jones-finding-the-lost-stone/

The odd thing is that Stoney Lane is on the opposite side of Ashley Down Road from where the villa seems to have been.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 November, 2021, 02:23:58 pm
W.G. Grace's off stump gatepost found.
https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/features/it-was-like-indiana-jones-finding-the-lost-stone/

The odd thing is that Stoney Lane is on the opposite side of Ashley Down Road from where the villa seems to have been.

"Are you going, Doctor? You've still got one stump standing!"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 November, 2021, 04:49:19 pm
Who, if anyone, is televising the England v S. Africa game this afternoon?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 20 November, 2021, 05:00:50 pm
It isn't being televised.

It is being commercialised by Amazon.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 November, 2021, 05:08:32 pm
Well, they can FRO.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 20 November, 2021, 05:11:17 pm
Yes. Agreed.

Good result for England, I followed them on BBC web page text  ::-)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 20 November, 2021, 06:13:06 pm
Yes!  Unusual for a team packed with South Africans to lose!  Phillipines for the win!

Hope it signifies a resurgence for England.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 November, 2021, 07:52:00 pm
Well, they were a matching pair of close games this afternoon/evening!

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 21 November, 2021, 11:46:57 am
Exciting stuff indeed.  Unusual to see New Zealand going through the sort of patch usually reserved for England.  I can't remember the last time that happened.

On the Wales win (and it's something I've said before) I don't like victory going to a team that scores fewer tries.  I know it would be argued (correctly) that if penalty points only counted in the event of tries being equal, you would end up with a team scoring a try and then defending their lead with foul play but maybe if drops were allowed for points but penalties were only used for territorial advantage, we might have fewer stoppages and less obstructive play.  It would certainly make England a sharper outfit - they give away more penalties than a traffic policeman.  But I accept that both teams know the rules before they go out, so nothing will change.  Results may be tight and exciting but there are huge passages of really boring and cynical play.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 December, 2021, 04:15:43 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/03/sports-quiz-week-england-ashes-ralf-rangnick-f1-chess-football

I just tried this sports quiz. I scored 1/10. No prizes for guessing which one I got right.

That's quite bad even when I didn't know the right answer (I did know the one I got right). You would have thought that I would have picked another right answer through sheer luck.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 December, 2021, 05:30:01 pm
I look forward to your explanation of the Bongcloud opening.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 December, 2021, 05:33:00 pm
I look forward to your explanation of the Bongcloud opening.

That's not a chess opening. It's a sexual deviation.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 December, 2021, 05:37:04 pm
I look forward to your explanation of the Bongcloud opening.

That's not a chess opening. It's a sexual deviation.
That's never stopped you in the past!  :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 December, 2021, 06:14:47 pm
4.  Three of them guesses.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 December, 2021, 06:35:51 pm
I look forward to your explanation of the Bongcloud opening.

That's not a chess opening. It's a sexual deviation.
That's never stopped you in the past!  :o

Ooooh! You said you'd never tell!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 18 December, 2021, 09:03:53 pm
Harsh but fair.

(https://imgur.com/IrAHCUyl.png)

He probably didn't see it coming
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 07 January, 2022, 05:27:56 pm
It's Swinedun Town vs Man City tonight, in Swindon.  Swindon are on a bit of a roll right now so the Mancs may not get away with fielding an under-21s team.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 February, 2022, 12:01:18 pm
Has Kim been trying to watch the rugball?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60229589
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 04 February, 2022, 12:41:32 pm
This would have been easier a couple of years ago.  Ireland would have been the team with the ball.  Bit harder to predict just now.  England could wear any clash at all - they'd be the ones giving away penalties.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: SteveC on 13 March, 2022, 11:47:29 am
Not a good day yesterday: England, Wigan, Yeovil...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 13 March, 2022, 02:13:54 pm
Has Kim been trying to watch the rugball?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60229589

Wrong kind of colourblindness, I think.  And is it even rugball if everyone doesn't end up mud-coloured by half time?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 March, 2022, 09:47:04 am
Oh I thought you were red-green. But good point about the mud.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 March, 2022, 12:43:22 pm
Seems the joint bid by England-Scotland-Wales-N.ireland-Ireland to hose Euro 2028 is going to win because... it's the only one. Has the glamour of hosting big sporting events gone?

Ed: It seems UEFA is to blame. They "enthusiastically supported" this bid, obviously putting others off.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: John Stonebridge on 22 March, 2022, 03:34:18 pm
Seems the joint bid by England-Scotland-Wales-N.ireland-Ireland to hose Euro 2028 is going to win because... it's the only one. Has the glamour of hosting big sporting events gone?

Ed: It seems UEFA is to blame. They "enthusiastically supported" this bid, obviously putting others off.

I suppose with its 24 team format since 2016 then probably only Italy, England, Spain, France & Germany could host it alone.  France had 2016, Germany have 2024 and England had the (three) lions share of 2020/1.

Given the established practice now of host teams having to qualify, it will be less of a spectacle if the majority of host nations dont in fact make it to the finals.  Im assuming that England could be pretty much guaranteed to do so fielding a "B" team in qualifying but while Wales and Scotland qualified in 2020 they are hardly shoe ins generally, ditto the two Irelands.

EDIT - after the scenes at the Final of Euro 2020 at Wembley Im surprised that UEFA would sanction a repeat a mere 7 years later.  Maybe the final will be held at another venue. 

   

   
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 22 March, 2022, 06:11:40 pm
This Unit hopes they hold the final in That Scotland, that they have now, just to annoy the Tories :demon:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 22 March, 2022, 07:41:33 pm
This Unit hopes they hold the final in That Scotland, that they have now, just to annoy the Tories :demon:

Dublin.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pedal Castro on 22 March, 2022, 07:53:20 pm
One of my Y7 pupils had a trial for Scotland girls football squad last week. You'd expect that with a name Rosa Campagnolo she'd be more into cycling...  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 22 March, 2022, 07:55:12 pm
Oh I thought you were red-green. But good point about the mud.

Yes, but there's "red-green colourblindness" where your green receptors respond to redder wavelengths (the most common form), and there's "red-green colourblindness" where your red receptors respond to greener wavelengths (the one I have).  Also two other forms of "red-green colourblindness" where you have no functioning red or green receptors at all, respectively.

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In real life, it's bright-green/yellow and blue/purple I have most trouble discriminating.  If I get red or green muddled up, it's usually knowing where red becomes brown (eg. spotting cricket balls on a muddy field) or green becomes grey.  And in the case of the primary-red rugball shirts, I'm still seeing them as primary red, but somewhat darker than most people, which can help me to discriminate from a green of equivalent intensity, in a way a deutanerope wouldn't be able to.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 March, 2022, 08:20:34 pm
Thanks for the explanation Kim but I can only claim to understand an approximation.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 April, 2022, 02:00:01 pm
I've just discovered that there is a football club called Sporting Khalsa. (http://www.sportingkhalsa.com) I'm not sure how many of their current squad are Sikh, certainly not all and probably not most.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 19 April, 2022, 10:00:56 pm
Football result:

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 20 April, 2022, 12:29:07 pm
I've just discovered that there is a football club called Sporting Khalsa. (http://www.sportingkhalsa.com) I'm not sure how many of their current squad are Sikh, certainly not all and probably not most.
I became aware of them earlier this season in September, when they dumped the team I support out of the FA Cup. The summary of one of my fellow supporters on his trip there (ignoring his disgust at our team's performance):
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Friendly club, run by local Indians. Very reasonably priced admission, scantily clad barmaid in the clubhouse and equally tasty samosas at the snack bar.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 20 April, 2022, 12:34:59 pm
Ha! The tastiest samosas in Bristol come from a place run by devout Sikhs – a big notice behind the counter asks customers not to bring alcohol, tobacco and meat into the shop – but the staff are quite modestly dressed.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 20 April, 2022, 10:16:01 pm
Another win for Newcastle Arabia tonight, at the expense of Crystal Palace.  It's an intriguing season and, regrettably, it would take a freak series of results for NA to be relegated, now.  But technically nobody from 9th down (Leicester) is safe.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jurek on 23 April, 2022, 12:41:46 pm
The manager of Crawley United, John Yems, has been suspended for discriminatory behaviour.
John was in my class at secondary school.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 23 April, 2022, 12:49:31 pm
You should be ok if you didn't inhale.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 May, 2022, 05:44:45 pm
Gas rising isn't just hot air!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 May, 2022, 07:36:13 pm
Warning: fupbol result.

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 May, 2022, 02:25:58 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/13/phone-north-sea-rebekah-vardy-coleen-rooney-libel-case

I read that purely because it was written by Marina Hyde, and I always read MH's stuff. But it's actually quite hard for me to comprehend what is going on as I don't know the back story. I think it's not the first time that Marina has written about it, but since I never find out anything else about WAGs and their dark underworld, I don't know what was said about whom by whom. And I don't care.

I suppose this doesn't really belong in the Sport board - although I suppose for slebs, fighting libel cases is a form of sport. Come to think of it, I'm not sure why I bothered to post. Maybe I'm after someone who does know the back story to give me a potted history of it so that I don't have to trawl through lots of pages of tabloid shite in order to find out what's going on.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 13 May, 2022, 03:30:33 pm
Someone was leaking Stuffs about Mrs Rooney to The Sc*m from a private Instagram thingie.  Mrs C suspected Mrs Vardy so planted a couple of fake stories, to which only the two of them had access.  Said stories duly appeared in Don Rupino's shit-sheet.  “Gotcha!” cries Mrs C, for surely this was the smoking gnu gun she sought.  “I never!” replies Mrs V.  Legal proceedings ensued.

Also, “Wagnarok” made me done a roffle.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on 23 May, 2022, 12:05:23 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/61540417
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With no Argentina defenders chasing him, he first slowed to a trot and then stood in the Argentina in-goal area holding the ball and looked to the England bench for advice on what to do.
He was advised to run down the clock and proceeded to stand there for more than two minutes, with no Argentina defender approaching him, despite encouragement - but not insistence - from the referee for either Homer to put the ball down or a defender to force him to do so.
Poor show.  You see this sort of thing in the 11 man game from time to time, but I would have thought the more gentlemanly game would treat this more seriously.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 29 May, 2022, 09:20:54 pm
I have just learned from my Dear Son that

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 May, 2022, 08:54:16 am
Canada is the spiritual home of ice hockey so beating them always means something. Like beating England at cricket or football, I suppose, except probably more so!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 30 May, 2022, 09:12:10 am
Canada is the spiritual home of ice hockey so beating them always means something. Like beating England at cricket or football, I suppose, except probably more so!

Except that everyone beats England at cricket and football.   All the time.
So it's probably a bit more special than that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 May, 2022, 10:19:34 am
Yep.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 30 May, 2022, 02:47:51 pm
However holding the Ice hockey world cup at the same time as the Stanley Cup playoffs means that the best of the NHL players from all countries are unavailable as they are still playing for their club sides. On the basis of the representation in the NHL I suspect that both the USA and Canada sides could have been much stronger, though equally the Sweedes, Finns and Czechs were probably missing some stars.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 June, 2022, 08:17:35 pm
Wales have won the Eurovision fupbol contest.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jun/05/wales-ukraine-world-cup-2022-playoff-final-match-report
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 05 June, 2022, 08:38:46 pm
Wales have won the Eurovision fupbol contest.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jun/05/wales-ukraine-world-cup-2022-playoff-final-match-report

I went to the pub to watch it.  I was a bit late, so I was worried that I might not get a decent seat.
When I got there there were only three people in and the TV wasn't even switched on.
Wrong shaped ball for this area it would seem.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on 06 June, 2022, 04:12:35 pm
To Worcester last Friday to watch the Women's Premiership 15s final. Ms Marco was on the bench for Saracens vs Exeter (as 9, possibly 10 in extremis). No injuries meant she got a whole 3 minutes at the end as the bench was emptied, but managed to break a ring finger in her first defensive tackle (tendon tore off a piece of bone  :o), which is somewhat sub-optimal for a scrum-half. A convincing win for Saracens through aggressive defence and more effective attack than Exeter; good match.

A broken finger didn't seem to hinder a boozy celebratory night out (in sweaty and champagne-soaked game shirts)...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 June, 2022, 09:27:55 pm
Wales have won the Eurovision fupbol contest.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jun/05/wales-ukraine-world-cup-2022-playoff-final-match-report

Arising out of the above, I have just had the following drawn to my attention - this from the semifinal v Austria. So perhaps Wales have won Eurovision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXtf1XFczk&ab_channel=FAWales
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 June, 2022, 09:36:23 pm
I like their reggae hats!(!)
I feel like I've heard that tune with Polish words, but I think it's just that kind of tune that sounds like other things.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 19 June, 2022, 06:27:16 pm
There was a rugby match at Twickenham. Crikey, England didn't do very well...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 June, 2022, 09:25:37 pm
I don't think anyone was expecting anything else.  (Few Welshmen  - as in zero - in the Baa-Baas starting line-up)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 19 June, 2022, 10:43:58 pm
Wales beat thrashed Wiltshire (Sir Wilt?) at Llandysul today.  First time we've had a proper Minor Counties match here.

Great fun.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 June, 2022, 11:47:05 pm
Basil, is that near Newcastle Emlyn?  I had a brother who lived in or near Llandysul.  Then he moved to Wiltshire - then he died.  Has a sort of poetry to it, don't you think?  Like me he was a cricket fan (we both originated in Durham, then a minor county.  His schoolteacher opened the batting for them).  He'd be amused at Wales being considered as a minor county!  Scotland, which can also claim us as descendants is, of course a minor country...not nearly as poetic.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 20 June, 2022, 12:05:50 am
Basil, is that near Newcastle Emlyn?  I had a brother who lived in or near Llandysul.  Then he moved to Wiltshire - then he died.  Has a sort of poetry to it, don't you think?  Like me he was a cricket fan (we both originated in Durham, then a minor county.  His schoolteacher opened the batting for them).  He'd be amused at Wales being considered as a minor county!  Scotland, which can also claim us as descendants is, of course a minor country...not nearly as poetic.

Yes, that's us. Mrs B is also a County Durham girl.  And I am half Scottish.
Inherited my love of cricket from my mum.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 20 June, 2022, 12:24:53 am
 :D  I love coincidences!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 June, 2022, 10:38:30 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCd4yDg5kIc&ab_channel=CR%27sVideoVaults

I've just stumbled across this rather good hour or so of nostalgia.

Watching England in 1980: I have absolutely no recollection whatever of Clive Woodward as a player.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 30 June, 2022, 08:57:24 am
Nor have I, even after reading his autobiography.  He seems to make more of his career as a photocopier salesman.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: andyoxon on 01 July, 2022, 11:59:06 am
Tour de France
Wimbledon
Eng v India Cricket

Just sayin'   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 01 July, 2022, 12:13:35 pm
I like the slices but can't get worked up about the filling!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 01 July, 2022, 12:29:11 pm
Tour de France
Wimbledon
Eng v India Cricket

Just sayin'   :thumbsup:

And the BRITISH Grand Prix…
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on 02 July, 2022, 01:15:09 pm
And some rugby too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 July, 2022, 06:04:53 pm
Nail-biting stuff in SA.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 02 July, 2022, 06:07:28 pm
Wales just scored a try three men down!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 July, 2022, 06:13:33 pm
Bollocks!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 02 July, 2022, 09:52:52 pm
Bollocks!

Indeed.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 July, 2022, 01:51:26 pm
Crikey! Well done Ireland! (This probably deserves a thread all of its own).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 July, 2022, 07:27:53 pm
Fifty years ago today the Fischer-Spasski match began in Reykjavik.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 July, 2022, 08:43:11 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/24/chess-robot-grabs-and-breaks-finger-of-seven-year-old-opponent-moscow

That's not very sporting...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on 24 July, 2022, 09:04:32 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/24/chess-robot-grabs-and-breaks-finger-of-seven-year-old-opponent-moscow

That's not very sporting...

The robot did not break its opponent's finger, that is decadent western propaganda. It performed a special digital realignment operation.   :demon: ;) :demon:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 July, 2022, 10:31:34 pm
i understand that Liverpool fans booed the "national anthem" today before their footie match v Man City started.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 July, 2022, 11:41:18 pm
In marked contrast, many of the audience* were singing along when it was played at the conclusion of last night’s gig at the Shepherd's Bush Empire ???

* Though not me.  Or Miss von Brandenburg.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 31 July, 2022, 11:28:27 am
i understand that Liverpool fans booed the "national anthem" today before their footie match v Man City started.

Possibly should read "some Liverpool fans"?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 31 July, 2022, 11:41:22 am
I believe it is Hillsborough related. Also it is worth mentioning the connection with the government.

Quote
before following that up with the chant “F*** the Tories

I’d have rhought that would resonate?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 31 July, 2022, 12:14:49 pm
J.  I didn't get the context because I didn't watch the match!

FGR already fighting hard to stay up - excellent!  I guess that's a local derby, now?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: toontra on 31 July, 2022, 12:21:04 pm
i understand that Liverpool fans booed the "national anthem" today before their footie match v Man City started.

Quite a common occurrence with some LP fans.  Apparently they take exception to the lyrics - i.e. Brenda "ruling over them"  ;D

Cracking game none the less.  Bodes well for an exciting season  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 31 July, 2022, 12:39:45 pm
J.  I didn't get the context because I didn't watch the match!

FGR already fighting hard to stay up - excellent!  I guess that's a local derby, now?

Yes, a great result for them, apparently could have been 4-1 as their keeper had a fantastic game.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 31 July, 2022, 02:12:27 pm
With an opening 4 - 0 defeat at Walsall,  Hartlepool Untied go straight to the very bottom of div2.
Oh well, it can only get better.   

Or not.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 31 July, 2022, 04:58:59 pm
They've scored 4 runs and haven't lost a wicket.  What's not to like?!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on 31 July, 2022, 09:25:27 pm
That was a somewhat exciting swimming race, wasn't expecting Peaty out of the medals entirely.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 August, 2022, 01:33:46 pm
i understand that Liverpool fans booed the "national anthem" today before their footie match v Man City started.

Quite a common occurrence with some LP fans.  Apparently they take exception to the lyrics - i.e. Brenda "ruling over them"  ;D

Cracking game none the less.  Bodes well for an exciting season  :thumbsup:
I didn't know the national anthem was played before football matches. Why? It's not actually a standard thing is it?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 August, 2022, 07:12:25 pm
I don't really know anything about football and tend not to care very much, but I couldn't help but raise an eyebrow towards the fact that Brentford have slotted 4 home v Manchester United still with ten minutes to go before half time.

Wossgoinon?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 13 August, 2022, 10:16:34 pm
Wossgoinon?

Easy. Brentford are currently a better team than Manchester United.

I was fully expecting Brentford to win - although admittedly the margin of victory was a tad surprising.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 13 August, 2022, 11:21:47 pm
It was pathetic to see the comments on the BBC web page while the match was going on.  Things like "Manu (to give them their official name) is a team that needs to win trophies."  Why?  Newcastle haven't won a trophy for nearly 70 years and yet have crowds comparable to "ManU"'s.  As for "There is no commitment from the players" - It's the players' shop window: if they want to play for a better club, they have to show they are good enough.  They are committed all right - but they are not very good.  For most of us, this is a hugely satisfying situation.  Brentford only had about 35% of the possession, too.  Prediction:  Manchester United (to give them their old name) will beat Newcastle twice this season!
Title: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 14 August, 2022, 12:47:59 am
I watched the highlights on Match of the Day. They were as bad as the scoreline suggests.

Newcastle will rout them.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 14 August, 2022, 03:48:51 am
Here’s hoping.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 14 August, 2022, 08:47:12 am
I expect that when commenters say “Manu is a team that needs to win trophies” what they mean is “Manu is a team that expects to win trophies but haven’t quite realised that this involves hard work”.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 14 August, 2022, 11:25:38 am
Here’s hoping.

Indeed. But they've got to play Liverpool next, which could be... interesting.

Not due to face Newcastle until mid-October. Maybe they will have remembered how to play football by then. But I wouldn't bet on it - unless they can buy a whole new team in what's left of the transfer window, they'll be stuck with the same bunch of half-arsed players until January at least. Cristiano Ronaldo was stamping around like a child having a tantrum, seemingly blaming everyone except himself, even though he was massively at fault for giving the ball away cheaply in the build-up to Brentford's first goal.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 August, 2022, 06:24:12 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/14/manchester-city-sun-cream-ban-cancer-charity

That's incredible. Who the fuck do they think they are?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 August, 2022, 08:49:17 pm
I expect that when commenters say “Manu is a team that needs to win trophies” what they mean is “Manu is a team that expects to win trophies but haven’t quite realised that this involves hard work”.
Manu (M&U?) is a team whose fans expect them to win trophies but haven't quite got used to the idea that every successful team has periods of being unsuccessful. Whether the team themselves expect to win trophies, maybe.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 August, 2022, 11:09:38 pm
Here’s hoping.

Indeed. But they've got to play Liverpool next, which could be... interesting.

...

Very interesting, but not for reasons which seemed likely a week ago.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 15 October, 2022, 12:23:11 am
Anderlecht fans behaving badly...
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/14/anderlecht-apologise-to-west-ham-after-fans-light-flares-and-throw-seats

The Anderlecht fans were already present in numbers near the ground by the time I turned up for work on Thursday. When I went out at lunchtime, I saw a large bunch of them sitting outside the pub near the office. They were clearly already a few pints in at 1pm. And the game didn't kick off until 8pm.

I'm amazed any of them were still awake, never mind physically capable of fighting by the time the match started.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 04 November, 2022, 11:13:19 am
Apparently there is a football 'world' cup taking place in Qatar next month.  I did wonder what all that building work was for.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 04 November, 2022, 11:19:39 am
I expect that when commenters say “Manu is a team that needs to win trophies” what they mean is “Manu is a team that expects to win trophies but haven’t quite realised that this involves hard work”.
Manu (M&U?) is a team whose fans expect them to win trophies but haven't quite got used to the idea that every successful team has periods of being unsuccessful. Whether the team themselves expect to win trophies, maybe.

Back in the day when I was interested, I attended the first home match that Ferguson was in charge of.  It was very easy to get tickets back then and despite being penniless students, we could easily afford them. The team had been doing badly for quite a while and we all knew Ferguson would not last long.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 November, 2022, 11:42:43 am
I have been to the two Old Traffords, once each for cricket and football. I think the cricket was first, India were the opponents, it was the Monday of the test match (I bunked off college and missed choir), John Edrich scored a century and the ground was nearly empty. It rained.

In the football match, Newcastle were the opponents. Jim Holton was sent off for a foul on Malcolm McDonald. I think Newcastle won 2 - 1 (not sure about that) and it was the season that Manu were relegated to Division 2 (not sure about that either).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 November, 2022, 10:25:05 am
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/nov/11/chess-shreyas-royal-13-leads-bavarian-open-with-56-as-records-beckon

Some spectacular results for a London junior there.

I love reading Barden's stuff. He's 80 years older than the lad featured in the article, and pretty well every event and British player he mentions further down will at some point have been influenced by him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 November, 2022, 08:36:46 pm
I just read in a sportsball report that Newcastle United will be in 3rd place in the Premiership at Christmas. This statement intrigued me since Christmas is still about 7 weeks away. But then I checked and, indeed, apart from two tomorrow, there will be no further fixtures until Boxing Day.

I'm not a fervent follower of football but I don't think they usually do this. Wossgoingon?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 November, 2022, 09:09:31 pm
I just read in a sportsball report that Newcastle United will be in 3rd place in the Premiership at Christmas. This statement intrigued me since Christmas is still about 7 weeks away. But then I checked and, indeed, apart from two tomorrow, there will be no further fixtures until Boxing Day.

I'm not a fervent follower of football but I don't think they usually do this. Wossgoingon?
A little junket in the Arabian Peninsular.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 November, 2022, 11:08:11 pm
I just read in a sportsball report that Newcastle United will be in 3rd place in the Premiership at Christmas. This statement intrigued me since Christmas is still about 7 weeks away. But then I checked and, indeed, apart from two tomorrow, there will be no further fixtures until Boxing Day.

I'm not a fervent follower of football but I don't think they usually do this. Wossgoingon?
A little junket in the Arabian Peninsular.

Oh crikey! I'd totally forgotten about that, despite Ian Hislop eviscerating Gary Neville on HIGNFY last week.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 21 November, 2022, 09:10:02 am
I'm equally amused and irritated by the BBC radio trailers for said junket. I'm happy with it including women's voices - good to acknowledge that football isn't just for boys, especially as it will most likely upset the right-wing media, who no doubt are having a field day with their "woke BBC" headlines.

The trail focuses on the ways people behave whenever a World Cup is on, and the lengths they will go to in order to watch/listen to games. The bit that really gets me is the line about sneakily listening during the kids' nativity.

Two reasons:
a) they're presenting this as if it's a standard part of every World Cup, when in fact it has never been held so close to Christmas before.
b) looking at the schedule, all the midweek 1pm kickoffs will have finished by early December, so the chances of any game actually clashing with a school nativity play are minimal - unless a particular school goes extremely early with their nativity. It shows very poor attention to detail.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 November, 2022, 09:29:16 am
Oh. Does this mean they've invented "sneaky football" as a new Christmas must have, just like they invented "elf on the shelf" (wutf?) a few years ago?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 21 November, 2022, 09:31:33 am
Nah, it's just a shit advert. Probably written by 12-year-olds. </ed reardon mode>
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 December, 2022, 04:09:19 pm
https://youtu.be/tqqQ27sg-Xk

Goal of the season?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 31 December, 2022, 12:24:47 pm
Inspiring!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 January, 2023, 11:11:38 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/04/silly-point-or-square-leg-how-well-do-you-know-your-way-around-a-cricket-field

I got 3 out of 15, which is about what I'd expected!  ::-)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 03 January, 2023, 11:36:01 pm
I got 4, which I was hugely pleased with.  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 04 January, 2023, 12:51:55 am
8.  And annoyed that it didn't give points for the several positions that I knew but was considered to be a gnat's out.

Brought up by a cricket fanatic mum.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 January, 2023, 04:48:56 am
9 according to the scorer, but it was remarkably pernickety. I think I got 13. Mid-off I got totally wrong - I misread off for on, and long on I was out by enough that I would accept it. The other 4, my man was within a couple of paces of their designated position.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 04 January, 2023, 09:19:30 am
10 of 15, I agree with Wow about how sensitive the answers were. I accept fly slip and extra cover but I had point on the circle on the right line and third man and long on on the boundary on the right line.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 January, 2023, 11:27:31 am
I didn't even know third man was a cricket position. Can you really play cricket in the sewers of Vienna?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 04 January, 2023, 11:33:00 am
My favourite film!

And the answer is, "Yes!", there's plenty of room, though the pitch is always damp.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 04 January, 2023, 12:28:39 pm
I didn't even know third man was a cricket position. Can you really play cricket in the sewers of Vienna?

Often just 'third' these days.

11/15
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: JonBuoy on 04 January, 2023, 12:31:59 pm
My favourite film!

And the answer is, "Yes!", there's plenty of room, though the pitch is always damp.

In which case the position is best pronounced with an Irish accent.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 04 January, 2023, 06:07:49 pm
JonBuoy, you are not the Messiah, etc.!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Beardy on 12 February, 2023, 11:27:23 pm
I’m sure I’ll regret it in the morning, but I’ve just sat down to watch the Superb Owl.

ETA; it’s been a good decision so far. Although I’m no great judge of American football, I’ve enjoyed the first half immensely.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 13 February, 2023, 04:05:02 am
It was a really good game, between 2 brilliant teams, and the Chiefs deserved to edge it because they made plays on defence and special teams, but that holding call at the end was so soft. If that's a hold, you can't play man coverage. I'm biased (Eagle fan), but it would have made for such an exciting ending to give Hurts the ball with 90 seconds left, rather than run the clock and give him 4 seconds.
Edit - NB that wasn't what cost the Eagles the game, and the refs made quite a few questionable calls including one that negated a KC touchdown. It did however cost the viewer the chance for a proper exciting finale, rather than 3 kneel downs and a field goal.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Beardy on 13 February, 2023, 12:32:43 pm
Yes, I thought a few of the of pitch refereeing calls were a bit silly, and not at all consistent either. I’m also not a fan of winning by managing the clock, in the way that their rules allow. The last four plays were an insult to the fans in my mind.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 February, 2023, 10:21:54 am
Remarkably sad news that one of the kids rescued from the caves in Thailand in 2018 has died in the UK whilst attending some footballing academy or other.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/16/playing-football-in-heaven-tributes-pour-in-after-boy-rescued-in-thai-cave-dies-in-uk
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 February, 2023, 08:50:59 pm
I haven't got the patience these days to sit for a couple of hours watching a sportsball match, but I've watched the rugby international highlights whenever there has been a series of matches. In recent weeks I've taken to hunting down the football highlights as well, mostly as a form of schadenfreude when the teams I don't want to win don't win.

This afternoon, if the highlights were anything to go by, Aston Villa v Arsenal was an utterly brilliant game. I felt the Aston Villa goals were very good indeed.

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12814109/aston-villa-2-4-arsenal-premier-league-highlights

I might well look for a bit more of that match to watch.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 20 February, 2023, 11:12:32 pm
RIP Dickie Davis

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/feb/20/dickie-davies-obituary
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 February, 2023, 11:22:14 pm
Good run for someone namechecked inna Half Man Half Biscuit song.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 February, 2023, 11:41:11 pm
I have few memories of Dicky Davis, but one I do have was him interviewing snooker player John Dunning, who had just beaten Terry Griffifths. Dunning was My Dear Wife's cousin's father in law, so we were obliged to watch the interview. Dunning, from Morley, made some rather amusing and alcohol-inspired comments about being "reight champion".
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 February, 2023, 11:52:03 pm
https://www.bt.com/sport/watch/video/clips/2023/february/highlights-liverpool-2-5-real-madrid

Well that was an extraordinary game.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 13 March, 2023, 09:37:31 pm
Not the first Dick associated with a flop (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/mar/13/dick-fosbury-olympic-champion-high-jump-flop-dies)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 19 March, 2023, 01:20:40 pm
I've just heard a female commentator speaking about a woman's football match and referring to one of the players having previously won a "Man of the Match" award.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 March, 2023, 11:30:34 pm
Player of the Match would be the obvious cover all. This could lead to a simply fascinating TV series in which a number of sportspersons are pitched into a variety of tantalising competitions against, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Barack Obama, George Bush and Bill Clinton: PotUS vs PoteM.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 23 March, 2023, 08:45:28 pm
Crikey!  Italy 0 - 2 England at half-time :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 March, 2023, 09:05:12 pm
Shades of West Germany 1970?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 23 March, 2023, 11:43:32 pm
Crikey encore!  Italy 1 – 2 England at full time :thumbsup:

Even with In-ger-lund down to ten men for the final ten minutes.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 March, 2023, 08:29:14 am
The boys dun grate.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: farfetched on 24 March, 2023, 09:01:06 am
Actually Italy is a bogey team for England, a lot is made of Germany and other big guns but I couldnt
remember the last time England beat Italy in a competitive International, a google search suggests they
are extremely rare,  once in 1977 - world cup qualifier (England were already eliminated after Don Revie did a runner mid qualification to join the UAE - he was always ahead of his time )
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 March, 2023, 09:28:47 am
But let it not be forgotten that the mighty Swindon Town have twice beaten Juventus!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: farfetched on 24 March, 2023, 09:59:05 am
That's one for 'What have I learned today' - The Anglo-Italian cup, I see that they also won the final
3-0 against Napoli before a crowd of 55,000 in Naples! (Abandoned due to a pitch invasion)
Apparently supporters were frustrated by the total dominance of Swindon.... its hard to imagine...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 March, 2023, 10:08:56 am
Would that have been in the days of Don Rogers?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 March, 2023, 10:57:24 am
I found some edited highlights.

Anglo-Italian Cup (https://www.google.com/search?q=swindon+town+anglo+italian+cup&sxsrf=AJOqlzWcxAA3D8N6ieuGSIf7tjAZvS7NYA:1679655284872&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiV_eXEs_T9AhUcTEEAHU1RCEMQ_AUoA3oECAEQBQ&biw=1872&bih=888&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:dc1adfa8,vid:QO19qG-UCe4)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Beardy on 24 March, 2023, 12:31:04 pm
No rugby and no F1 this weekend.  :'(

I wouldn’t know what to do with myself if we weren’t of to that London to visit the boy.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 24 March, 2023, 01:03:50 pm
Women's 6 nations starts tomorrow. Does the BBC have the rights to all the matches?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 24 March, 2023, 01:09:18 pm
England  v Scotland will be on BBC 2.
I assume the coverage will be shared between BBC and ITV again.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 March, 2023, 01:26:43 pm
A quick google has revealed

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Every game of the Six Nations will be available to watch on BBC iPlayer and the broadcaster's regional channels, with some matches also broadcast live on BBC Two. The Women's Six Nations broke new ground in 2021 when the finale was broadcast as a standalone event on BBC Two, increasing exposure of the competition.

(Source: D. Torygraph)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 March, 2023, 08:02:01 pm
Does anyone know where the current futbol international highlights can be found? My usual sources (bbc, sky) seem to have dried up.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 26 March, 2023, 08:22:15 pm
In-ger-lund's recent Euro 2024 qualifiers were broadcast by C4.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 April, 2023, 08:20:12 pm
Pretty impressive at the top of the premiership: each of the top 3 teams has won all of their last 5 games.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 April, 2023, 11:06:37 pm
Maybe not deserving of putting in a Rugby thread, but today Japan beat Ireland at the Singapore Sevens. It's the first win ever for Japan v Ireland.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 April, 2023, 02:45:58 pm
Looking at this board, we have threads on county cricket, Southend and  football clubs, and rugby league (which mentions various town-based clubs). Which makes me wonder why cricket has taken a different path of development from other sports, so that its highest domestic level is based on counties rather than towns and cities. Any ideas?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 April, 2023, 03:46:45 pm
I don't know the answer to the question, but I like to think that fixtures between Essex and Kent involve a little less needle than they did on the (allegedly) first recorded outing.

https://www.barkinganddagenhampost.co.uk/lifestyle/20943607.essex-v-kent-1776-two-dead-not-ball-bowled/
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 April, 2023, 04:06:45 pm
If that happened at Essex v Kent, I dread to think what ensued when Men of Kent played Kentish Men!

But in fact that does give a hint as to why cricket is organised on county lines; "local teams often adopted county names." Speculating wildly, could it be that cricket, requiring larger playing fields than football etc, was more likely to be played in villages and small towns, but would attract spectators (perhaps also players) from wider afield, so in the fans' minds the allegiance was more to a county than a town?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 April, 2023, 04:14:04 pm
Premier League football clubs agree to end gambling sponsorship. Except in places where they're going to allow it.
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Premier League clubs have agreed to ban gambling sponsors on the front of their shirts from the start of the 2026-27 season. The league said the clubs had taken the measure “voluntarily in order to reduce gambling advertising”.
Good. But...
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It will still be possible to advertise gambling brands in other areas, including on shirt sleeves and pitchside hoardings.
Read all about it (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/apr/13/premier-league-clubs-ban-gambling-sponsors-on-front-of-shirts-from-2026-27)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 April, 2023, 07:16:57 pm
Further thought on cricket being in counties: is it still the case that cricketers don't tend to move between counties much? Whereas footballers, rugbyists, etc, tend to move from club to club, cricketers tend to sign up with one and stay there for their whole career?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 April, 2023, 07:57:40 pm
Further thought on cricket being in counties: is it still the case that cricketers don't tend to move between counties much? Whereas footballers, rugbyists, etc, tend to move from club to club, cricketers tend to sign up with one and stay there for their whole career?

Some do. Jim Laker spent most of his career withy Surrey, and still holds the record for the most wickets by one bowler in a test match (19). He later move to Essex. In fact, he once played in the same team in a first class county match (v Lancs) as Geoff Hurst, more famous for something else. Hurst's cricket career was short-lived.

Bob Willis started his career with Surrey, but moved to Warks early on. I had it in my mind that he had a row with Fred Titmus over racist remarks about a team-mate, which led to him leaving the county. But I can't find proof online for that, but it seems Jonathan Agnew, another England fast bowler, did have such a row with Titmus. It seems that Willis just couldn't get into the Surrey first team regularly enough.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 April, 2023, 08:28:49 pm
I always think 'Fred Titmus' sounds like a TV gardener.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 April, 2023, 10:09:03 pm
Regarding Fred Titmus & racism, I found this:

Quote from: Barney Ronay
Also contains a story about 16 year old Jonathan Agnew standing up with Lonsdale against racist abuse from a very senior figure in English cricket. Nobody else in the dressing room did. Lonsdale never forgot it. 👏👏 to young Aggers for that

Barney Ronay is a Graun sports correspondent.

https://twitter.com/barneyronay/status/1287306534930849799

No mention of Willis, so I think my memory is faulty. Apparently as a Sky commentator, Willis was frequently heard berating the English cricket establishment for allowing so many overseas players into the English game at the expense of locally produced ones, to a degree that some seemed to regard his rants as bordering on racism. I have never watched Sky cricket coverage so I don't have a view of these claims.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 April, 2023, 11:56:33 pm
We know a song about that, don't we, Nigel?  https://youtu.be/4LaMIYxDZ28
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 April, 2023, 06:38:39 am
Small interesting fact for cricket geeks: FT was one of a very select band of cricketers whose careers spanned 5 decades. His debut in 1949 for Middlesex was at the age of 16 and something, the youngest to represent them; and Mike Brearley persuaded him to come out of retirement at the age of 49 when he knew the pitch was taking spin.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 26 April, 2023, 11:40:13 am
Further thought on cricket being in counties: is it still the case that cricketers don't tend to move between counties much? Whereas footballers, rugbyists, etc, tend to move from club to club, cricketers tend to sign up with one and stay there for their whole career?

Just having a cursory think about this Cudz (unlike my usual considered and well-thought out responses!), I think you are broadly right but probably not so much on the "whole career" bit (Ray Illingworth was a "died-in -the-wool Yorkshireman and England captain who played the later part of his career at Leicester).  Footballers belong in the commodities market; cricketers less so.  This may be partly due to the duration of the matches: If all your home matches are going to last for 4 days then it would make sense to be living within easy reach of your home ground.  Even if a county has several "home" grounds, that would still apply.  This might make players and their families more reluctant to move than a footballer, who will usually be paid astronomically more than a cricketer at the same level and can afford to live where he likes and travel for training and playing.

Interestingly in football, Newcastle Arabia, in 3rd place currently in the top division, regularly field 6 or 7 British players in a match, whereas the two teams above them regularly field no British players.  It would be nice to think that such a statistic might lead to sides becoming more relevant to the local population again - but I doubt it!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on 01 May, 2023, 11:06:29 pm
Ah man, that snooker final ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 02 May, 2023, 12:44:51 am
Terrific, wasn't it!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 02 May, 2023, 01:20:33 pm
Further thought on cricket being in counties: is it still the case that cricketers don't tend to move between counties much? Whereas footballers, rugbyists, etc, tend to move from club to club, cricketers tend to sign up with one and stay there for their whole career?

That was very much the case, but I think in these days of franchise cricket it is not so much so.  Chris Gayle is listed in Cricinfo as having played for 37 different outfits, including both Somerset and Worcestershire.  For top players there is more of a guns for hire view.  There is also a degree of movement for those trying to get an international call up - Sam Northeast went from Kent to Hampshire and then to Glamorgan where he scored his defining quadruple century, and Joe Denly went from Kent to Middlesex and back, where he had a belated international career.  Even Kent's much beloved Darren "Stevo" Stevens originally played for Leicestershire and had a loan spell at Derbyshire.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 May, 2023, 01:51:27 pm
Sam Northeast went from Kent to Hampshire and then to Glamorgan where he scored his defining quadruple century,
But he never went to Yorkshire or Durham? Missed opportunity!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 02 May, 2023, 02:48:54 pm
For nominative determinism?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 May, 2023, 03:33:08 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 May, 2023, 10:03:29 pm
Some entertaining fupbol this evening in the Permiership: 21 goals in 3 games.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 08 May, 2023, 11:07:14 pm
Certainly!  I bet Brighton are a bit stunned!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 18 May, 2023, 07:10:32 am
I didn't learn much from reading the BTL comments in the Spanish press this morning, except that 'baño' = thrashing. The word seemed to crop up rather frequently.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 18 May, 2023, 10:33:01 am
I just loved the thought of humble pie being eaten by whoever said (as reported on BBC News webpage) a few days ago, when asked whether Real feared Haaland, "Haaland?  This is Real, not Crystal Palace!"  (Crystal Palace scored 2 at the Etihad).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 May, 2023, 05:27:10 pm
Ah, but how many did Haaland score v Crystal Palace? Hmmm?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 18 May, 2023, 08:37:08 pm
It's a fair point, Wow and the answer, which I suspect you know, is 4.  But Crystal Palace scored more against City (2) than mighty Real, so a little humble pie is in order, I think.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 May, 2023, 10:38:36 pm
It seems to be de rigueur that players, immediately after scoring, carry out a "knee slide" towards their adoring fans.

This looks to me like a really risky procedure. Has anyone damaged a knee or cut themselves badly whilst doing this?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 May, 2023, 10:14:01 am
According to the Graun, City's defeat of Real marks the long-expected arrival of petroclubs displacing the old guard on the European stage, as they have long done in the Premiership and other national leagues.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 May, 2023, 01:33:07 pm
Inter Milan might disagree with that (they are owned chiefly by a Chinese conglomerate - but I wouldn't expect the Guardian to know that).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 May, 2023, 02:13:09 pm
I'm not sure where Chinese conglomerates stand in the scale of ownership, but I'd have put them a lot nearer the petrodollar end with City, PSG et al, a long way off the fan-owned model of Real. Anyway, I think the Graun are assuming City will beat Inter. That's obviously like assuming the sun will carry on shining when you're on a bike ride.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 May, 2023, 04:11:28 pm
Sure, I was just nit-picking!  City will beat Inter (or vice versa).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 May, 2023, 11:01:00 am
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/may/23/perhaps-one-day-this-whole-age-of-football-will-require-an-asterisk-manchester-city-premier-league-title
Football murkier than Lance Armstrong.
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“Lance Armstrong” started trending on Twitter for a while on Thursday morning, in the aftermath of Manchester City’s stunning Champions League triumph against Real Madrid. Which, while funny, doesn’t really work as a comparison for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that City are yet to be found guilty of the 115 Premier League rule breaches of which they are accused, a process that should finally reach its conclusion some time towards the end of the Anthropocene, once City have finally run out of objections over the composition of the hearing panel, the temperature and furniture arrangement of the adjudication room, the colour of the flowers, and so on.

But even then the Armstrong parallel feels wilfully obtuse. Pumping your body full of EPO and human growth hormone in a sport where the correlation between power output and success is almost a straight line is not really the same thing as false accounting in a complex ball sport. By the same token, everyone agrees that doping should be banned. Not everyone agrees that football club owners should be restricted in the amount they are allowed to spend. The more compelling analogy, for me, is with swimming’s super-suit era: a period of high drama but also high farce, and crucially defined not by a single high-profile case but a whole culture of lawless free‑for‑all, much of it residing in the endless grey area between what is legal and what is not.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Hair_Today_Gone_Tomorrow on 24 May, 2023, 12:02:35 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/may/23/perhaps-one-day-this-whole-age-of-football-will-require-an-asterisk-manchester-city-premier-league-title
Football murkier than Lance Armstrong.
Quote
“Lance Armstrong” started trending on Twitter for a while on Thursday morning, in the aftermath of Manchester City’s stunning Champions League triumph against Real Madrid. Which, while funny, doesn’t really work as a comparison for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that City are yet to be found guilty of the 115 Premier League rule breaches of which they are accused, a process that should finally reach its conclusion some time towards the end of the Anthropocene, once City have finally run out of objections over the composition of the hearing panel, the temperature and furniture arrangement of the adjudication room, the colour of the flowers, and so on.

But even then the Armstrong parallel feels wilfully obtuse. Pumping your body full of EPO and human growth hormone in a sport where the correlation between power output and success is almost a straight line is not really the same thing as false accounting in a complex ball sport. By the same token, everyone agrees that doping should be banned. Not everyone agrees that football club owners should be restricted in the amount they are allowed to spend. The more compelling analogy, for me, is with swimming’s super-suit era: a period of high drama but also high farce, and crucially defined not by a single high-profile case but a whole culture of lawless free‑for‑all, much of it residing in the endless grey area between what is legal and what is not.

sounds like jealousy

Football has always had some clubs richer than others who use their wealth to help ensure success.
Sunderland - remember them were once know as the Bank of England club because of their vast wealth
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 May, 2023, 02:58:41 pm
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1662511375787204611.html  Contains criket and Bad Swears.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 28 May, 2023, 03:06:21 pm
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1662511375787204611.html  Contains criket and Bad Swears.

Great stuff.  :D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 May, 2023, 03:21:05 pm
Very good indeed.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 28 May, 2023, 06:50:33 pm
Brilliant - warm beer, nurses on bikes and 5 for 8.  Makes you feel great to be English - or Indian!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: sg37409 on 07 June, 2023, 06:22:28 pm
A bit pissed the golf tours have merged.   Fuck the sport washing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 June, 2023, 08:26:21 am
I’ve always had a bit of a soft spot for West Ham: my nearest first division, and then premiership, club who had a reputation for trying to play attractive football, so I settled down to watch them last night. I switched off after half an hour. It reminded me of all the reasons I don’t like football.

Firstly, it was boring. The most amusing part was reading the automatically generated subtitles. Fiorentina became “urine on Tina” and I can’t recall what it was that the commentator said that was translated into “Catholic Church” but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t “Catholic Church”.

Secondly, both sides’ cheating was the most flagrantly outrageous I think I have seen. The Fiorentina players were pretending they were mortally wounded when absolutely nothing had happened to them. And some West Ham guy dived so blatantly that he got himself booked.

The final straw was when one of the Fiorentina players was hit in the back of the head by something thrown by a West Ham supporter. It was a gaping wound that bled profusely. He was patched up and carried on, but that was enough for me.

It’s edited highlights for me from now on. Some professional can be paid to cut all that shit out so that I can pretend it didn’t happen and have the five minutes’ worth of entertainment that the video editor deems is worth watching.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 08 June, 2023, 10:09:28 am
Sorry to disappoint you, Wow, but in many "edited highlights" programmes all you get is "all that shit".
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 June, 2023, 11:03:54 am
The final straw was when one of the Fiorentina players was hit in the back of the head by something thrown by a West Ham supporter. It was a gaping wound that bled profusely. He was patched up and carried on, but that was enough for me.
Plastic cups, apparently. At that point I did think to myself that some of the WH fans must have been Millwall supporters... which I'm sure is doing a discredit to Millwall too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: L CC on 08 June, 2023, 11:13:08 am
In the office it was reckoned to be a vape.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 June, 2023, 11:16:03 am
Plastic cups is what they said on whatever channel it was on Youtube, but a vape would seem more likely to cause that injury.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 June, 2023, 11:28:15 am
Sorry to disappoint you, Wow, but in many "edited highlights" programmes all you get is "all that shit".

This is true, but it only lasts 5 minutes!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 08 June, 2023, 11:46:28 am
 ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 June, 2023, 07:56:53 pm
Goooooaaaal!

Play up, England!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 June, 2023, 08:16:32 pm
Goooooaaaal!  Twenty-yard scorcher!  Hurrah!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 June, 2023, 08:18:09 pm
Goooooaaaal!  Penalty by H Kane.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 June, 2023, 08:34:35 pm
Malta 0 — 3 England at half time :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 June, 2023, 09:27:54 pm
Goooooaaaal!  Hotly-disputed penalty* by C Wilson, for a change.

* by one of the colemantators anyway
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 June, 2023, 09:56:51 pm
Four-nil to In-ger-lund.  Next, North Macedonia at Old Trafford on Monday.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 June, 2023, 09:57:39 pm
Is this some sort of competition, Mr. L? Or minnow practice for Our Battling Boys?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 June, 2023, 09:58:11 pm
Euro '24 qualifiers, yeronner.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 16 June, 2023, 10:03:21 pm
Euro '24 qualifiers, yeronner.

In which Wales fecked up.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 08:17:08 pm
Gooooooaaaaal! H Kane (28’)

England 1 - 0 North Macedonia
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 08:27:23 pm
Gooooooaaaaal! B Saka (38’)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 19 June, 2023, 08:33:21 pm
Come on Mr. L!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 08:33:31 pm
Gooooooaaaaal! M Rashford (44’)

Edit: Was having a rant at Mark Zuckerberg…
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 08:54:20 pm
Gooooooaaaaal! B Saka (47’)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 08:58:02 pm
Gooooooaaaaal! B Saka (50’)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 09:11:37 pm
Gooooooaaaaal! C Philips (64’)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 09:19:24 pm
Gooooooaaaaal! H Kane (pen. 72')
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 19 June, 2023, 09:32:07 pm
The Colemantator just talked about this massive England win.

That’s a bit premature, there’s still 6 mins to go.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 June, 2023, 09:39:10 pm
England 7 - 0 North Macedonia

Next qualifier September 9th against Ukraine at a location TBA.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 20 June, 2023, 10:21:15 pm
WTF? Coming to Scotland and being surprised there is precipitation?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on 22 June, 2023, 09:45:58 am
In discussion with a student we googled how much English league 2 (that's the third division) players make. On average £2.5k
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 June, 2023, 10:24:11 am
League 2 is the fourth tier.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 22 June, 2023, 10:43:08 am
There are an increasing number of clubs in the lower divisions where players stand a good chance of not getting paid at all.  It's presumably cheaper for the owners just to lose the points.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 June, 2023, 06:35:16 pm
Right now there is a guy trying to break the round-mainland britain kayaking record.

The record is 67 days.

He's weeks ahead of schedule.

Absolute monstering it. He's been averaging about 100km a day.

Self-supported, carrying full camping kit.

https://dougalsepicadventure.com/around-britain-2023/ (https://dougalsepicadventure.com/around-britain-2023/)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 July, 2023, 02:22:48 pm
Right now there is a guy trying to break the round-mainland britain kayaking record.

The record is 67 days.

He's weeks ahead of schedule.

Absolute monstering it. He's been averaging about 100km a day.

Self-supported, carrying full camping kit.

https://dougalsepicadventure.com/around-britain-2023/ (https://dougalsepicadventure.com/around-britain-2023/)

He's still going strong, but has lost the tailwinds. Still managing 50-100km per day.

At this rate, he'll finish in 50 days - taking more than 2 weeks off the record.

Totally incredible performance.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 July, 2023, 05:53:26 pm
He's punching headwinds now, and physically suffering. Back and hip pain (they take a real hammering in protracted paddling).

His hands look like sunburnt ulcerated meat.

Fingers crossed very hard that he can keep going for a bit longer.

If he sustains his pace, he'll finish under 50 days.

If the weather gods are kind, he will finish around 40days.

Truly incredible performance so far.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 08 July, 2023, 04:35:58 pm
My guilty pleasure today is being at the Royal Albert Hall for Giants Live.  Having watched Worlds Strongest Man since about 1976 it is comforting to watch 4 grown men struggling to lift a Superyoke into place
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 July, 2023, 07:57:04 am
Dougal has only 50odd km to go today, which would get him the record at 40 days.

However, his blood sugars are not in a good state - 16.5 mmol/l this morning and he hasn't started moving yet.

Hope he can get this sorted, it sounds dangerous.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 July, 2023, 06:44:49 pm
And he's done it.

40 days to circumnavigate mainland Britain.

Taking 27 days off the previous record.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 12 July, 2023, 01:45:59 pm
In discussion with a student we googled how much English league 2 (that's the third division) players make. On average £2.5k
(click to show/hide)

So more than an MP, average GP, headteacher at a secondary school.....
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 July, 2023, 07:16:13 pm
Isn't English League 2 the 4th division in old money?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 July, 2023, 12:37:02 pm
Isn't English League 2 the 4th division in old money?
Yes.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 15 July, 2023, 01:36:25 pm
I think the lower league salary numbers are distorted by a couple of properly big clubs going down the divisions with players on contracts from higher up. Sunderland, Portsmounth, Bolton etc. Also, players who are on loan from bigger clubs massively inflate the numbers. If you look at the clubs who are run as tier 4 clubs, their whole turnover is in the low millions a year, and that's everything from player, coach, academy, and staff salaries, travel, stadium rent/upkeep, tax etc. You can see some actual numbers here: https://footystats.org/england/efl-league-two/salaries

Being a lower league professional is a stressful life - they are almost always on 1 or 2 year contracts, and they know that one significant injury (or just a loss of form or losing your place) can chuck them out of the professional game for good. A couple of clubs a year seem to go bust and not pay players or staff, you may have to move yourself and family every year, and even if you manage to stick it all the way to the end of your career you are done at 35 and unlike the premier league players, you've got to go get a job.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on 15 July, 2023, 07:37:13 pm
When I was a newly minted Engineer in Glasgow in 1978 one of my colleagues wore Pierre Cardin (when the name meant something) silk shirts to work. I wondered how on the wages we were paid. Enlightenment came when I was informed he was semi-pro for Clyde.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 July, 2023, 10:53:32 am
Not really much to do with sport, but a brilliant anecdote from David Lloyd, former Lancashire batsman, in a chat show.

I always recall Lloyd with great affection. He's a lovely, down-to-earth Lancastrian with a brilliant sense of humour, which always makes a pleasant change, I feel, from the usual run of test cricketers. I could listen to him talking all day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwhKkyEdQPo&ab_channel=TheHowieGames
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 31 July, 2023, 11:46:41 pm
The football/fashion crossover is complete. Football is fashion, fashion is football. And it's happened in, I believe, Mr Larrington's 'hood (though that's probably not him in the photo – probably not a footballer either).
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d0e54c487c8796142b1f070f46f846fcceb1474d/0_667_11648_6989/master/11648.jpg?width=620&dpr=1&s=none)
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/jul/31/east-london-football-club-walthamstow-fc-releases-william-morris-inspired-kit
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 01 August, 2023, 12:34:19 am
We do have a Wm. Morris museum but in spite of having lived in E17 for almost 27 years I've never set foot in the place, because I are a unkultured oaf.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 August, 2023, 12:40:38 am
You don't need to visit it now, you can buy your own replica kit of the 'Stow FC and be a kultured footie fashionista instead.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 August, 2023, 07:20:12 pm
Randomly looking around the internet just now, it came to my notice that Graham Gooch has never been knighted. Given that the four most recent English cricketers to be knighted are Botham, Boycott, Cook & Strauss, I'm a bit puzzled by Gooch's absence from this list. He's scored more runs for England than anyone else, when you combine first class and "List A" matches, he has the highest individual score in any test (333 & 126) and his 154 at Headingly in 1991 is considered by many to be one of the finest test centuries of all, given the context and the opposition (W. Indies in their pomp). I'd argue that in pure cricketing terms, Gooch's achievements are greater than the other four I've mentioned.

I'm not a fan of the honours system, but I can't help but think he's done something to upset those who make such decisions. Could it have been his role in the rebels' tour of S. Africa? That seems unlikely, because Boycott was also heavily involved.

Curious.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 27 August, 2023, 12:29:20 pm
A little moment for the Lahndahn premiership purists today:

1 West Ham
2 Tottenham
3 Arsenal

It won't last because Man City have yet to play, but I don't recall seeing a top 3 like that before. Much more likely to be Lancs & Environs.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Tim Hall on 28 August, 2023, 09:15:44 pm
Not only did my grate frend Frank go to Swindon on Saturday,but he then saw his team lose 6-0.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 01 September, 2023, 10:02:29 pm
Weestaaam go top again with an away win at Luton.

They'll never believe it at Upton Park...[/bill_mclaren]
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 03 September, 2023, 03:57:10 pm
Last cricket of the season today at the Llandysul ground.  Wales seniors v Pembrokeshire seniors.
To play for the seniors you have to 60s 70s.
Seems a bit unfair on ex Wales players in their 80s who fancy a bit of slow spin.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 September, 2023, 05:53:20 pm
Are you not out there turning your arm, Basil?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 03 September, 2023, 06:14:11 pm
Are you not out there turning your arm, Basil?
:(

Never played for Wales or any Pembrokeshire club, so not eligible.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 September, 2023, 11:33:19 am
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Once described as the man who bowled "at 100mph from mid-off off the wrong foot", Mike Procter's international career was limited to just seven Tests due to South Africa's exclusion from world cricket during the apartheid years. Instead he plied his trade for Gloucestershire and in the Currie Cup, before forging a high-profile career as a match referee, selector and broadcaster.

INTERVIEWER: Is it hard for you to reconcile yourself to the fact that you lost what may well have been a fantastic career as an international cricketer?

MIKE PROCTER: No, it's not. Yes, I lost a Test career. But what is a Test career compared to the suffering of 40 million people? Lots of people lost a great deal more in those years, and if by missing out on a Test career we played a part in changing an unjust system, then that is fine by me.

INTERVIEWER: At the time South Africa was barred from international competition, did you know that you would never play Test cricket again?

MIKE PROCTER: Yes, I always thought that I wouldn't play again. It was no surprise. Actually in April, 1971 [after the South African government had intervened to stop the South African selectors picking non-white players for a tour of Australia] a group of us ➖ Graeme and Peter Pollock, Barry Richards, Denis Lindsay and I ➖ walked off the field at Cape Town after one ball of the game between Transvaal and the Rest of South Africa and issued a statement supporting selection by merit regardless of skin colour. At the time we did that, I thought we wouldn't play again. And we didn't do that to save the tour to Australia, as some have claimed. We did it to try and change the whole rotten system of the country. We were opposed to the government.

Mike Procter was an amazing player, and arguably one of the greatest all-rounders of all time. I didn't realise what a thoroughly decent bloke he was until I read this.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 14 September, 2023, 02:02:15 pm
That is wonderful to read.  I'm trying but failing to remember the name of the hugely talented rugger international who expressed the same views.

I remember meeting a South African serviceman who was doing some sort of survival training in North Wales in the 70s and "discussing" the iniquities of the apartheid system.  He responded that "Here in UK, you've got a better karnd of bleck."  He was a big bloke and I still had a show to do*, so I just turned away without actually saying, "No, I think we've got a better kind of white."  Sadly, I'm not sure that's true, anymore!

* I'd already done my anti-apartheid song, which is what sparked the encounter.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 27 September, 2023, 08:41:55 pm
Women footballers for The Villa fear match turning into a wet T-shirt competition:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66932993

The manufacturers have really messed up there, and their logo is on the shirts.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on 28 September, 2023, 01:33:21 am
Women footballers for The Villa fear match turning into a wet T-shirt competition:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66932993

The manufacturers have really messed up there, and their logo is on the shirts.

Came here to post this.  You'd think PE kit would be a solved problem...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: L CC on 28 September, 2023, 08:16:46 am
Castore are also Newcastle's kit supplier- although they will be reverting to Chav's favourite Adidas for 2024-25 onwards.

Their shirts aren't wet with sweat. I see a colour/tech spec issue.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 28 September, 2023, 06:00:27 pm
Wales Veterans 9 - Llandysul Veterans 1

Well, what were we expecting?
 ::-)

ETA.  Football
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 October, 2023, 09:13:56 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/eee49eb109f661e613e8fe8c16aeed1077d44db2/0_0_3200_1921/master/3200.jpg?width=620&dpr=1&s=none)

Taken from tonight's Graun - Spain v Scotland, football.

The Spanish no 10 is 1.64m tall. The Scotsman behind him is 1.93m tall.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 October, 2023, 11:47:36 am
Most English football clubs have fairly boring names. "Placename United" or "City". Occasionally a "Wanderers" or "Albion" but "Hotspur" is as original as it gets. Probably the situation is similar in other countries albeit with different names. But not in the Netherlands, where you can watch... Never Quit Always Persevere Pleasant by Enjoyment and Useful by means of Relaxation Breda !
Usually name by the shorter name of Noad Advendo, which manages to sound Latin but isn't.

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Nick den Uijl is the man with the skinny on NAC Breda of Holland, although, as he points out, this is a prefix and not a suffix. “NAC Breda comes from Noad Advendo Combinatie. Noad stands for ‘Nooit Ophouden Altijd Doorzetten’ (Never Quit Always Persevere) and Advendo stands for ‘Aangenaam Door Vermaak En Nuttig Door Ontspanning’ (Pleasant by Enjoyment and Useful by means of Relaxation). Noad and Advendo were two football clubs in Breda (the Netherlands) who merged in 1912.” Never Quit Always Persevere Pleasant by Enjoyment and Useful by means of Relaxation Breda it is then. Catchy.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2023, 11:55:46 am
Great stuff, Cudz.  (I'm reminded of yoav of this parish, who informs us that yoav stands for yoav on a velo.)  Solihull Moors is good and so is Argyle, though Crystal Palace may be the most beautiful name.  But go to Scotland's leagues for some pearls, such as Gala Fairydean, Forres Mechanics and more than you could shake a pibroch at*.

* pedants, I know about the preposition thing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 October, 2023, 12:38:34 pm
The "Yoav on a velo" line makes me smile every time I see it. I know nothing whatsoever about Gala Fairydean but I now REALLY WANT to support them, especially if it means I can go to a Gala Fairydean Fan Day Gala. In fact I've just looked them up and they are in full Gala Fairydean Rovers, which gives them a bonus point (though not necessarily a goal).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2023, 01:01:27 pm
 ;D

I'll try and find a few others for you!  I imagine Galashiels is where Gala comes from so it's accessible.  Forres is practically falling off the end.  I've been there but it wasnae for the fitba!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 24 October, 2023, 01:07:56 pm
I can explain Solihull Moors.
Many years ago, I started visiting my nearest local semi professional footy club and found that I rather enjoyed it.
This was Moor Green FC.  Motto, "Not the worst pies in the league - We don't sell pies."
I followed them through two promotions (to the dizzy heights of the National League North, but they were always struggling financially.
The final straw was when their tiny stand burnt down. They called it a day and merged with their biggest local rivals - Solihull (spit).
I never bothered after that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2023, 01:17:19 pm
Fascinating back story.  Especially the no pies bit!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on 24 October, 2023, 01:20:19 pm
Better put my hand up and admit that I made that bit up. Sorry.
The rest is true though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2023, 01:30:12 pm
That's ok, it made me smile!

Here's a list of lovely names, as promised:-

Hamilton Academical
Kelty Hearts  (Fife)
Queen of The South (Dumfries)
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
The Spartans
Bonny Rigg Rose
Caledonian Braves

But, for me, the cup goes to  Civil Service Strollers !
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 24 October, 2023, 01:41:28 pm
References to Swiss outfit BSC Young Boys rarely fail to raise a smile.  Especially since their ground is Wankdorf Stadium.

Fnarr and, moreover, fnarr.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2023, 01:42:37 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Flite on 24 October, 2023, 02:49:19 pm
Now I have an earworm 
“Super Caley Go Ballistic, Celtic are Atrocious!”

When everyone was trying to remember supercalifragilisticexpialidocious (dubious spelling)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 October, 2023, 02:52:30 pm
That's ok, it made me smile!

Here's a list of lovely names, as promised:-

Hamilton Academical
Kelty Hearts  (Fife)
Queen of The South (Dumfries)
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
The Spartans
Bonny Rigg Rose
Caledonian Braves

But, for me, the cup goes to  Civil Service Strollers !

Can I add Southend United to that, because technically they are not in Southend, but Prittlewell (the term Southend comes from the south end of Prittlewell, which was originally a small fishing hamlet roughly where the pier now is) and they are far from United.

Untied more like.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 24 October, 2023, 03:00:50 pm
Gainsborough Trinity, founded 150 years ago by the Rev George Langton Hodgkinson, vicar of Holy Trinity church, to provide a healthy pastime for the  young men of that part of town as an alternative to alcohol and fighting.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 24 October, 2023, 03:09:39 pm
That's ok, it made me smile!

Here's a list of lovely names, as promised:-

Hamilton Academical
Kelty Hearts  (Fife)
Queen of The South (Dumfries)
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
The Spartans
Bonny Rigg Rose
Caledonian Braves

But, for me, the cup goes to  Civil Service Strollers !

I had to look this up to check, but Inverness Caledonian Thistle was the merger of two teams Inverness Thistle and Caledonian in order to claim a place in a slightly expanded Scottish Football League.  I seem to recall this was quite contentious as both clubs thought they had individual merits, but had to merge for Inverness to have representation. 
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on 24 October, 2023, 03:25:10 pm
Inverurie Loco Works
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 24 October, 2023, 06:05:45 pm
Hamilton Academicals - otherwise known as Hamilton Accies.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2023, 06:41:24 pm
Gainsborough Trinity, founded 150 years ago by the Rev George Langton Hodgkinson, vicar of Holy Trinity church, to provide a healthy pastime for the  young men of that part of town as an alternative to alcohol and fighting.

That worked out well, then?  ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: SteveC on 24 October, 2023, 07:41:58 pm
Leigh RMI, originally Horwich Railway Mechanics Institute
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 24 October, 2023, 08:21:10 pm
Leigh more famous for Rugby League and probably always have been.  But they do have a silly name, now "Leigh Leopards", for God's sake!  Cricket and Rugby have both gone stupid in this direction.  I love it when "The Invincibles" get thrashed at cricket!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 October, 2023, 10:33:21 pm
Do you recall that brief period under Don Revie when Leeds United attempted to market themselves as "Superleeds"? ISTR that the first match when they did that they got thrashed 3 - 0 by Derby County. Must have been about 1973.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 25 October, 2023, 12:56:34 am
Apart from the legendary John Charles, my main memory of Leeds is having to break into a friend's house while he was away to watch Sunderland's epic triumph in the FA Cup Final.  The key snapped in the lock but I had the skills to cope with that, frequently forgetting to take my own key on nights out!  So I don't remember the Derby match in question but it sounds very satisfactory - if you are a Derby fan!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: JonBuoy on 25 October, 2023, 07:17:54 am
Wrong Rangers.

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A popular K-Pop band appears to have made a mix-up by donning retro Rangers tops at a show in Texas.

STAYC were performing in Dallas as part of their US tour.

But instead of wearing local baseball team Texas Rangers tops, the girl group appeared in 1990s kits worn by Glasgow Rangers.

From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67204915
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: John Stonebridge on 25 October, 2023, 09:58:38 am
That's ok, it made me smile!

Here's a list of lovely names, as promised:-

Hamilton Academical
Kelty Hearts  (Fife)
Queen of The South (Dumfries)
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
The Spartans
Bonny Rigg Rose
Caledonian Braves

But, for me, the cup goes to  Civil Service Strollers !

I had to look this up to check, but Inverness Caledonian Thistle was the merger of two teams Inverness Thistle and Caledonian in order to claim a place in a slightly expanded Scottish Football League.  I seem to recall this was quite contentious as both clubs thought they had individual merits, but had to merge for Inverness to have representation.

The other team in that city has the best name - Inverness Clachnacuddin.  They remain in the Highland League. 

I believe that Queen of the South is the only football team referenced in the bible (a quiz question) though I've never checked. 

There are many other lyrical sounding non league clubs in Scotland - Ormiston Primrose, Kirkintilloch Rob Roy, Linlithgow Rose, Jeanfield Swifts & Dundee Violet spring to mind.     
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 25 October, 2023, 10:39:35 am
Excellent stuff there, John!  Do Dundee Violet actually play in violet?  If so a derby with United would be unwatchable, except in black and white!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 25 October, 2023, 11:52:42 am
But, for me, the cup goes to  Civil Service Strollers !
A gentlemen's club for gentlemen who wish to play gentlemen's sports in a gentlemanly way.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: John Stonebridge on 25 October, 2023, 02:51:17 pm
But, for me, the cup goes to  Civil Service Strollers !
A gentlemen's club for gentlemen who wish to play gentlemen's sports in a gentlemanly way.

I've played against them.  Civil they were not.   :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 25 October, 2023, 03:49:58 pm
Which somehow reminds me of Corinthian Casuals.  I don't suppose they won the Amateur Cup as often as they did by saying, "No, after you!"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 25 October, 2023, 04:14:14 pm
I discovered by accident today that Plymouth has two football clubs.

Plymouth Argyle (which may be good enough on its own for this thread - especially as no one can agree on how they came by the name Argyle or why it is spelt that way)
Plymouth Parkway - who play at Bolitho Park - a ground named after the fictitious captain of the Alexander Kent Napoleonic novel series

The accident was that I was looking up who Basingstoke Town (the lowest ranked football team representing a place of 100,000 or more people in the UK) played (they are currently in the 7th tier - Southern Premier Division South
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 25 October, 2023, 06:01:16 pm
I discovered by accident today that Plymouth has two football clubs.

Plymouth Argyle (which may be good enough on its own for this thread - especially as no one can agree on how they came by the name Argyle or why it is spelt that way)


If you read the comprehensive website detailing Plymouth Argyle's history https://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/index.asp# from Chapter 2: 1890-1895 From Struggle to Demise to Chapter 18: 1950-1953 Into the Fifties you might notice a surname not dissimilar to my own which occurs quite a lot. My grandfather's cousin was player*,  director, vice-chairman, chairman and  president of the club. And sponsor.

*there's a suggestion he only got a game because he was bankrolling the club.

He's on the extreme right, his brother is on the extreme left
(https://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/images/history/image120.png)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 29 October, 2023, 05:39:29 pm
This is absolutely horrific - ice hockey player dies during a match after suffering a cut to the neck from a skate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/ice-hockey/67253892

Thoughts and prayers etc to the player's family, friends and team-mates for the loss, of course, but imagine being a spectator at a game when something like this happens...

 :(
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 29 October, 2023, 07:12:37 pm
I was just about to post words to that effect. Horrific.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 December, 2023, 11:28:06 pm
There have been som jolly fine, high-scoring games in the Premiership over the past few days. And it's quite a refreshing change to see Manchester City not dominating proceedings.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 December, 2023, 04:53:15 pm
I've got a lot of admiration for Roy Hodgson, still battling it out as a premiership manager at the age of 76. I'm surprised he's still got the competitive edge. I think a lot of people lose it after a certain age. Watching him today, sitting it out watching his side get ground down by Liverpool on a miserable December day, makes me think I wouldn't bloody do that if I didn't have to.

A good friend of mine, one Dave Raeburn (b David Rabinovich, d about 2003, I think) was British Boys' (u18) Chess Champion in 1934. He retired to Southend in about 1980 and I started inviting him to play for the club.

I played him probably half-a-dozen times in competitive games, and he never seemed to lose his competitive edge. I think I beat him once, but mostly the games were drawn. I recall on one occasion offering him a draw in a position in which I was very much up against it. He gave me a hard stare as if to say "You're taking the piss, aren't you?" and then graciously offered me his hand. He was that generous.

The last time we played was in the final of the Southend club championship one year, a trophy I'd never won. I had the advantage out of the opening, and this was going to end up with me in a totally dominant position going into the ending. We adjourned, I played a crap move, and lost in the second session of play. I'm afraid I allowed my upset with myself show. Dave said quietly "I think I'm going to give up chess. I hate it when I lose, and I don't enjoy it when I win." That coming from a player who, had it not been for the war (he spent 3 years as a guest of Hirohito, as he said to me "one of 300 to go in one of 25 to come out") might well have developed into an England player. He didn't give up, of course, and when he died, around Christmas in his 87th year, he was Southend League and Southend Club Champion at both long-play and rapidplay chess.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 10 December, 2023, 10:24:19 am
I've got a lot of admiration for Roy Hodgson, still battling it out as a premiership manager at the age of 76. I'm surprised he's still got the competitive edge. I think a lot of people lose it after a certain age. Watching him today, sitting it out watching his side get ground down by Liverpool on a miserable December day, makes me think I wouldn't bloody do that if I didn't have to.

He did retire last year but I guess it didn't suit him.

Not sure about the "competitive edge" though - since he's come back, he mostly seems to be going through the motions, relying on tactics that went out with the dinosaurs. And always bloody moaning, even when his team win.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on 10 December, 2023, 11:10:06 am
I've got a lot of admiration for Roy Hodgson, still battling it out as a premiership manager at the age of 76. I'm surprised he's still got the competitive edge. I think a lot of people lose it after a certain age. Watching him today, sitting it out watching his side get ground down by Liverpool on a miserable December day, makes me think I wouldn't bloody do that if I didn't have to.

He did retire last year but I guess it didn't suit him.

Not sure about the "competitive edge" though - since he's come back, he mostly seems to be going through the motions, relying on tactics that went out with the dinosaurs. And always bloody moaning, even when his team win.

Most disliked at Watford, took the money and didn’t do much.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 December, 2023, 02:15:22 pm
Also, he looks like a wol.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 10 December, 2023, 03:32:47 pm
Most disliked at Watford, took the money and didn’t do much.

Even more disliked at Liverpool - played dreadful tactics, bought dreadful players, praised Man United in interviews... :facepalm:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 10 December, 2023, 03:44:08 pm
Hmmm.  Why wouldn't he take the money?  He didn't appoint himself.  He praised Manchester United sat a time when Manchester United were good.  This is called telling the truth in every walk of life - except football! 

Off on a tangent, people go on and on about how disastrous Manchester United are.  They are 6th, repeat 6th in Division One, as I write.  Suddenly the wheels have come off at Manchester City - and they are 3rd*.  Football speaks a language from the planet Hyperbole.

Sorry, 4th! Still fully-wheeled.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: toontra on 10 December, 2023, 03:46:08 pm
It was one of David Squires' better strips when he went to Watford - https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/feb/01/david-squires-on-sexy-beast-roy-hodgson-reboot-watford-job (https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/feb/01/david-squires-on-sexy-beast-roy-hodgson-reboot-watford-job)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 December, 2023, 08:47:49 pm
It was one of David Squires' better strips when he went to Watford - https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/feb/01/david-squires-on-sexy-beast-roy-hodgson-reboot-watford-job (https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/feb/01/david-squires-on-sexy-beast-roy-hodgson-reboot-watford-job)

I don't know who any of those people are, except Roy Hodgson.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 11 December, 2023, 10:28:40 am
Hmmm.  Why wouldn't he take the money?  He didn't appoint himself.  He praised Manchester United sat a time when Manchester United were good.  This is called telling the truth in every walk of life - except football!

He does look like an owl though!

(Telling the truth is all well and good but it was in the context of being extremely negative about Liverpool at the same time, which really is not a good look if you're the manager of Liverpool.)
 
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Off on a tangent, people go on and on about how disastrous Manchester United are.  They are 6th, repeat 6th in Division One, as I write.

There's never room for being moderate when talking about Man United, you have to deal in extremes. It's partly down to the fickleness of fans but the media feed it because they know MU are always good for clicks.

They really were dreadful against Bournemouth at the weekend though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 December, 2023, 11:47:24 am
https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2023/dec/12/david-squires-on-roy-hodgson-mood-crystal-palace

Another cartoon taking the piss out of Roy Hodgson. Again, I don't have the background knowledge: my interest in football is very superficial, and I know nothing of the characters involved and clearly lampooned in cartoons like this. I recognised Hodgson, and Klopp. Who is Raymond? Mikel? What is this Wolverine reference?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: farfetched on 12 December, 2023, 12:03:18 pm

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Off on a tangent, people go on and on about how disastrous Manchester United are.  They are 6th, repeat 6th in Division One, as I write.


While supporters dont like it when pundits criticise their club, deep down most supporters know where their club sits in the pecking order.
At the moment United might be 6th but their performances are often mediocre and (most important) there is absolutely no chance they will compete with the top 3 (Arsenal, City and Liverpool) anytime soon - thats what they measure success by. Add to that the arrival of Villa, spurs and Newcastle on the scene and Champions league football becomes even more unlikely.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 December, 2023, 12:04:27 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2023/dec/12/david-squires-on-roy-hodgson-mood-crystal-palace

Another cartoon taking the piss out of Roy Hodgson. Again, I don't have the background knowledge: my interest in football is very superficial, and I know nothing of the characters involved and clearly lampooned in cartoons like this. I recognised Hodgson, and Klopp. Who is Raymond? Mikel? What is this Wolverine reference?
Mikel Arteta, Arsenal manager. Wolverine, Marvel superhero character. Not sure about Raymond...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: farfetched on 12 December, 2023, 12:06:50 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2023/dec/12/david-squires-on-roy-hodgson-mood-crystal-palace

Another cartoon taking the piss out of Roy Hodgson. Again, I don't have the background knowledge: my interest in football is very superficial, and I know nothing of the characters involved and clearly lampooned in cartoons like this. I recognised Hodgson, and Klopp. Who is Raymond? Mikel? What is this Wolverine reference?

My Guess....   Raymond is his assistant Ray Lewington,  Mikel is Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta and Wolverine refers to the presence of Actor Hugh Jackman at the game (who I believe played Wolverine in the X-men films)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 December, 2023, 12:08:36 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 12 December, 2023, 12:20:37 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2023/dec/12/david-squires-on-roy-hodgson-mood-crystal-palace

Another cartoon taking the piss out of Roy Hodgson. Again, I don't have the background knowledge: my interest in football is very superficial, and I know nothing of the characters involved and clearly lampooned in cartoons like this. I recognised Hodgson, and Klopp. Who is Raymond? Mikel? What is this Wolverine reference?

My Guess....   Raymond is his assistant Ray Lewington,  Mikel is Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta and Wolverine refers to the presence of Actor Hugh Jackman at the game (who I believe played Wolverine in the X-men films)

Yep.

Mikel Arteta is portrayed as a Lego minifigure because his hair looks like it's made of plastic.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 12 December, 2023, 12:59:46 pm
Mixed Martial Arts replaces Turkish Football.

Wow, you won't know, or need to know, any of the names.

I'll just add that Koca, the main culprit is an ex-member of Fuhrer Erdogan's dictatorship.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67691038 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67691038)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 12 December, 2023, 01:11:11 pm
Not to condone the action, but that is a great picture - credit to the photographer!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 December, 2023, 08:19:56 am
Mixed Martial Arts replaces Turkish Football.

Wow, you won't know, or need to know, any of the names.

I'll just add that Koca, the main culprit is an ex-member of Fuhrer Erdogan's dictatorship.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67691038 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67691038)

You have to read the whole article to get an idea of how bad this was. Not just a punch to the face, but a sustained kicking on the ground.

Afterwards, Koca blamed the violence on the match official!

For the sake of football, Koca has to go, permanently.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 13 December, 2023, 10:35:51 am
I was disappointed that Fifa didn't prevent Galatasary from playing in the Be-all-and-end-all League last night.  Disappointed but not in the least surprised.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 17 December, 2023, 02:04:16 pm
Sad to hear that Ian Wright is retiring from punditry. He was one of the very few I enjoyed watching.

Most of them are blinkered and narrow-minded with set ideas about certain teams and players that means all opinions expressed are essentially prejudgements. And a lot of them are just plain stupid.

Wright never tried to hide his love of Arsenal, which is fair enough, but he mostly just seemed to love watching football and would always be generous with his praise of teams that played well. And when he criticised teams for playing badly, he was always fair, unbiased and insightful in his comments.

Match of the Day will be far worse without him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 December, 2023, 03:13:52 pm
I haven't seen Ian Wright for a while - I think since the Gary Lineker Work to Rule - but I always liked what i saw of him. Totally enthusiastic and, as you say, fair and knowledgeable.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 December, 2023, 11:22:52 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/31/i-cant-celebrate-2023-now-jack-grealish-devastated-by-burglary

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“The people that commit these terrible crimes have no idea of the damage they cause to people’s lives."

Hang on a tick, Jack - you've stashed away over £1m in jewellery and watches - stuff that you just didn't need. What would Sadio Mané have done?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 01 January, 2024, 04:32:22 pm
Fair dos, Wow.  That's a hell of a long sentence for Jack Grealish.  Or was it his agent?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 03 January, 2024, 03:09:06 pm
For those who haven't seen it look at the score in the SA vs India test. Shortly after Tea on Day 1 and SA are 2 wickets down








In their Second Innings!

55 all out and 41-2 plays 153 all out as India went from 153-4 to 153 all out with 6 ducks.  :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 03 January, 2024, 03:26:59 pm
It would appear that darts history is about to be made by a 16 year old who looks like a hard-drinking 40 year old player.

I might even pay to watch it. 

(Before the sneering comments start about darts not being a proper sport, that would also exclude golf, archery, most motor sports and many others - and you can't cheat at darts).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on 03 January, 2024, 03:32:00 pm
It would appear that darts history is about to be made by a 16 year old who looks like a hard-drinking 40 year old player.

I might even pay to watch it. 

(Before the sneering comments start about darts not being a proper sport, that would also exclude golf, archery, most motor sports and many others - and you can't cheat at darts).

Not sure about that - beta blockers might help, as they do (did?) in snooker. Agree with your description tho!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 03 January, 2024, 04:04:15 pm
Who needs beta blockers when there is lager?  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 January, 2024, 06:02:15 pm
Bill Werbeniuk joke goes here ==>
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 03 January, 2024, 08:56:05 pm
Well, $ky wanted too much even for a one-day pass, so I'm following by text.  It sounds very, very close.  The darts cliché is that you play the board, not the man, but someone usually cracks psychologically.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 04 January, 2024, 01:14:38 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rogerzilla on 04 January, 2024, 08:12:31 am
Yeah, (writing in the style of Keith from "London Fields"): The more senior player had the averages and no way could the young pretender from Runcorn rise to the challenge.  At the seventh set, he crapped it."
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 January, 2024, 05:53:26 pm
Does my bum Luke Littler in this?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on 04 January, 2024, 09:49:50 pm
For those who haven't seen it look at the score in the SA vs India test. Shortly after Tea on Day 1 and SA are 2 wickets down








In their Second Innings!

55 all out and 41-2 plays 153 all out as India went from 153-4 to 153 all out with 6 ducks.  :o
Quack!

107 overs I think - the fastest result in Test history?
Some grumbles about the pitch, sadly ... but a record is a record!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 January, 2024, 03:20:33 pm
Why "Early doors"?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 08 January, 2024, 09:37:03 am
Why "Early doors"?

Something to do with bagging the best seat in the theatre, I think. But don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 January, 2024, 11:52:24 am
Why "Early doors"?

Something to do with bagging the best seat in the theatre, I think. But don't quote me on that.

Yes, I looked it up and that's what Wikipedia said. I'd never heard the expression until football types started saying it. I heard my sis in law say it on one occasion - she and her husband are Man City season ticket holders.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 08 January, 2024, 03:01:19 pm
Indeed, I think its adoption by football fans is a relatively recent thing but the phrase has been around a lot longer and definitely isn't specifically football related.

There was a sitcom in the early '00s called Early Doors that was set in a pub.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 January, 2024, 03:28:29 pm
I certainly remember hearing it as a junior tick at st custards in the 1970s.  May have been down to maths beak and rabid Villa fanboi Tom Eadon.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 08 January, 2024, 04:53:51 pm
Franz Beckenbauer, World Cup-winning captain and manager, dies aged 78

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/jan/08/franz-beckenbauer-world-cup-winning-captain-and-manager-dies-aged-78?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 January, 2024, 11:27:20 pm
In a fit of nostalgia, I'm watching Barbarians v All Blacks, 1973. It remains, probably, the finest game of rugby I've seen. Possibly not my favourite: that may well be Wales v England in Wembley, when the Millennium Stadium was being built (1999), and Wales came back to win by the odd point after Scott Gibbs crashed over and Neil Jenkins kicked the conversion (of course he did).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89h49kubZI4&ab_channel=TheRugbyChannel

But my question is: who was Man of the Match? Gareth Edwards, for scoring the best try in the history of rugby, or was there someone else?

(click to show/hide)

For the first time, I noticed that at 31 minutes, the crowd were singing "Who beat the All Blacks but good old sospan bach!" Llanelli had beaten them in the match played in the October.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: farfetched on 23 January, 2024, 09:49:57 am
I came across this article on the BBC sports website. ( i guess you could put it in the climate change topics)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-sports/67926417 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-sports/67926417)

As a resident of this watery (occasionally icy) place it filled me with dismay, while I cannot skate and never watch the
professional speed skating I do remember the 1997 event, without doubt the greatest 'sporting'* event I have ever witnessed.
Gripping television from dawn to midnight as the often distraught en disheveled skaters try to beat the clock.
I guess is has parallels with the worst aspects of a wintry audax brevet... probably why I liked it so much.


* The word sporting is perhaps not accurate, the vast majority are just trying to finish in time.
(The profs are already in with their feet up in the early afternoon)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on 23 January, 2024, 11:52:36 am
I came across this article on the BBC sports website. ( i guess you could put it in the climate change topics)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-sports/67926417 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-sports/67926417)

As a resident of this watery (occasionally icy) place it filled me with dismay, while I cannot skate and never watch the
professional speed skating I do remember the 1997 event, without doubt the greatest 'sporting'* event I have ever witnessed.
Gripping television from dawn to midnight as the often distraught en disheveled skaters try to beat the clock.
I guess is has parallels with the worst aspects of a wintry audax brevet... probably why I liked it so much.


* The word sporting is perhaps not accurate, the vast majority are just trying to finish in time.
(The profs are already in with their feet up in the early afternoon)

I saw a film dramatisation of the notorious 1963 event, following 4 participants in the 'just get round in the limit' category. On Netflix, I think (yes, https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/70277686). I enjoyed it probably for the reason you stated, but probably worth watching anyway.

On a similar note, I once watched the British Outdoor Speedskating Championships. I'm pretty sure it was in the winter of 1981/82. A very lengthy cold spell had been forecast, and an area of fenland near Baston had been flooded in anticipation. From my memories of riding the 8 miles or so to the event, I can confirm it was very very cold. Bricks had been laid out to delineate the track. but there was loads of other room for recreational skating, and there  were plenty of families taking advantage. I remember one name from the competitive events - John French - who was a well-known time triallist at the time (and as I've found out today competitor at the 1980 winter Olympics).

Many years later I bought a book at a bargain bookstore by Matthew Engel. As a cricket journalist he was expected to report on football in the winter, but persuaded his editor to let him report on anything which took his fancy, the more unusual the better,  and this book was a collection of his reports that winter, including the event I had witnessed.


PS More here (http://www.falakros.net/bourne/portrait/Articles/iceskating.htm), including a picture of John French in action.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 27 January, 2024, 09:18:29 pm
A fascinating day in the FA Cup.  I watched the Maidstone match which was a real thriller with everything that is great about the FA Cup, which to me is the important competition.  I should possibly have put this in the "claims to fame" thread but it's more complicated.  Years ago, I taught a young immigrant from the Democratic Republic of Congo to play guitar for a few weeks in a school in Rochdale that was full of refugees and other immigrants (there's much that is good about Rochdale but you won't hear it in the media).  It was only a short term arrangement by the school but I knew he was good at football and have followed his career ever since.  He was a star with the Manchester Untied youth set-up and has since played for Stoke, Aston Villa and even Napoli.  He is still only 25, I think.  His name is Axel Tuanzebe.

Today he was playing for ... Ipswich.  Maybe he should have had more guitar lessons!

Newcastle back to winning ways.  Fielded six English players and both of the goals were scored by Englishmen.  I didn't know that was still allowed.  Be interesting to see the 5th round draw, in which Newcastle will probably be drawn at home against Maidstone - who will beat them.

Edit:  Both Newcastle's English scorers are actually Geordies!
Title: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 28 January, 2024, 01:19:56 pm
I was born in Maidstone and was a regular at London Road in my youth. Had some great FA Cup away days with them - travelling as far afield as Plymouth and Darlington. They never got further than the third round in those days though.

We moved away in 1985, and then it all went to pot for Maidstone a few years later (the idiot owner selling the ground before he'd secured planning permission on the new ground didn't help).

I've not yet got round to seeing the reincarnated Maidstone. Would feel like a bit of a bandwagon jumper if I started following them now. No chance of getting tickets for yesterday's game. But it was great to watch on telly.

That first goal was a peach.

Strong chance they’ll get Premier League opponents in the next round, which will be fantastic. Would love it to be Liverpool.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 28 January, 2024, 04:43:34 pm
Sheffield Wednesday or Coventry.  Anxiety all round!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 28 January, 2024, 05:31:16 pm
Ooh! Really looked like it was going to be City for a minute there.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 January, 2024, 05:38:24 pm
Without wising to give too much away, I think Man U supporters are a lot less cheerful than they were about 20 minutes ago...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 29 January, 2024, 09:27:38 am
Without wising to give too much away, I think Man U supporters are a lot less cheerful than they were about 20 minutes ago...
For about 30 minutes in the second half, it was a game of equals. County did themselves proud - that was petty close to a full strength Utd team with 3 players who each cost in the region of 80 million pounds starting (and one who came on)! Plus the 2 Real Madrid rejects. ;)
I'm a County fan from afar, having grown up not too far away but not gone to many games (I was a teenager when they were playing in Moreton in the Marsh). I once played against Newport County (when they were in the National League) in a preseason game for Caerleon - we got stuffed 5-0 and it was an education!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 29 January, 2024, 09:36:57 am
I'm a County fan from afar, having grown up not too far away but not gone to many games (I was a teenager when they were playing in Moreton in the Marsh).
Citoyen's post about Maidstone's idiot owner selling the ground without having planning permission for the new site reminded me of Bristol Rovers' ground troubles, ongoing since about 1985 (the latest iterations of this trouble included Sainsbury's and now work starting on a new stand without permission having been secured or even perimeter fencing completed), but at least they only went as far afield as Bath. Newport to Moreton in the Marsh is... quite a trek!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 29 January, 2024, 10:58:17 am
Without wising to give too much away, I think Man U supporters are a lot less cheerful than they were about 20 minutes ago...
For about 30 minutes in the second half, it was a game of equals. County did themselves proud - that was petty close to a full strength Utd team with 3 players who each cost in the region of 80 million pounds starting (and one who came on)! Plus the 2 Real Madrid rejects. ;)
I'm a County fan from afar, having grown up not too far away but not gone to many games (I was a teenager when they were playing in Moreton in the Marsh). I once played against Newport County (when they were in the National League) in a preseason game for Caerleon - we got stuffed 5-0 and it was an education!

Nice!

Newport gave a very good account of themselves from what I saw of the game. I thought the outcome was inevitable even after they equalised - they were always going to tire towards the end against top flight opposition - but they really made United work for it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 29 January, 2024, 12:33:16 pm
I'm a County fan from afar, having grown up not too far away but not gone to many games (I was a teenager when they were playing in Moreton in the Marsh).
Citoyen's post about Maidstone's idiot owner selling the ground without having planning permission for the new site reminded me of Bristol Rovers' ground troubles, ongoing since about 1985 (the latest iterations of this trouble included Sainsbury's and now work starting on a new stand without permission having been secured or even perimeter fencing completed), but at least they only went as far afield as Bath. Newport to Moreton in the Marsh is... quite a trek!
Moreton in the Marsh was when the original Newport County went bust and the fans set up a phoenix club. The FAW basically said "you want to play in the English pyramid, go play in England". Eventually, a group of clubs (ending up with just Newport, Colwyn Bay and Caernarfon Town) took the FAW all the way to the high court and won. The FAW case was really stupid, because they required all Welsh clubs to play in the League of Wales, unless they were in the Football League (I think it was just Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham). So if Wrexham, then in the bottom division, got relegated, in theory they would have to have quit the National League (then the Conference) and go play in the league of Wales!
Full details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymru_Premier#Formation

There were various issues with finding somewhere to play in Newport after they won (the original ground had been turned into a housing estate), so they played in a stadium on Spytty Lane (near where the velodrome is now) for a while before moving to Rodney Parade and sharing with the Dragons and Newport RFC. The pitch yesterday was astonishingly good, given it has rugbi and football played on it most weeks - it was an utter mud pit until new drainage was put in a year or 2 ago.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 29 January, 2024, 01:24:34 pm
There are a lot of parallels between what happened to Maidstone and Newport in the late 80s. Good to see both clubs back on their feet again but it's a stark reminder of how precarious life is for most lower league clubs.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 29 January, 2024, 02:01:30 pm
There are a lot of parallels between what happened to Maidstone and Newport in the late 80s. Good to see both clubs back on their feet again but it's a stark reminder of how precarious life is for most lower league clubs.

They are easy prey for nefarious oiks like Ron Martin (Southend United) who feign interest in football but have their eye on a big chunk of city centre real estate.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 29 January, 2024, 03:44:40 pm
I'm a County fan from afar, having grown up not too far away but not gone to many games (I was a teenager when they were playing in Moreton in the Marsh).
Citoyen's post about Maidstone's idiot owner selling the ground without having planning permission for the new site reminded me of Bristol Rovers' ground troubles, ongoing since about 1985 (the latest iterations of this trouble included Sainsbury's and now work starting on a new stand without permission having been secured or even perimeter fencing completed), but at least they only went as far afield as Bath. Newport to Moreton in the Marsh is... quite a trek!
Moreton in the Marsh was when the original Newport County went bust and the fans set up a phoenix club. The FAW basically said "you want to play in the English pyramid, go play in England". Eventually, a group of clubs (ending up with just Newport, Colwyn Bay and Caernarfon Town) took the FAW all the way to the high court and won. The FAW case was really stupid, because they required all Welsh clubs to play in the League of Wales, unless they were in the Football League (I think it was just Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham). So if Wrexham, then in the bottom division, got relegated, in theory they would have to have quit the National League (then the Conference) and go play in the league of Wales!
Full details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymru_Premier#Formation

There were various issues with finding somewhere to play in Newport after they won (the original ground had been turned into a housing estate), so they played in a stadium on Spytty Lane (near where the velodrome is now) for a while before moving to Rodney Parade and sharing with the Dragons and Newport RFC. The pitch yesterday was astonishingly good, given it has rugbi and football played on it most weeks - it was an utter mud pit until new drainage was put in a year or 2 ago.
And then there are English clubs in English leagues playing in, and even winning, the Welsh Cup.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on 01 February, 2024, 10:53:12 am
I'm a County fan from afar, having grown up not too far away but not gone to many games (I was a teenager when they were playing in Moreton in the Marsh).
Citoyen's post about Maidstone's idiot owner selling the ground without having planning permission for the new site reminded me of Bristol Rovers' ground troubles, ongoing since about 1985 (the latest iterations of this trouble included Sainsbury's and now work starting on a new stand without permission having been secured or even perimeter fencing completed), but at least they only went as far afield as Bath. Newport to Moreton in the Marsh is... quite a trek!
Moreton in the Marsh was when the original Newport County went bust and the fans set up a phoenix club. The FAW basically said "you want to play in the English pyramid, go play in England". Eventually, a group of clubs (ending up with just Newport, Colwyn Bay and Caernarfon Town) took the FAW all the way to the high court and won. The FAW case was really stupid, because they required all Welsh clubs to play in the League of Wales, unless they were in the Football League (I think it was just Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham). So if Wrexham, then in the bottom division, got relegated, in theory they would have to have quit the National League (then the Conference) and go play in the league of Wales!
Full details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymru_Premier#Formation

There were various issues with finding somewhere to play in Newport after they won (the original ground had been turned into a housing estate), so they played in a stadium on Spytty Lane (near where the velodrome is now) for a while before moving to Rodney Parade and sharing with the Dragons and Newport RFC. The pitch yesterday was astonishingly good, given it has rugbi and football played on it most weeks - it was an utter mud pit until new drainage was put in a year or 2 ago.
And then there are English clubs in English leagues playing in, and even winning, the Welsh Cup.
Not since '95. Since 2012, only clubs playing in the Welsh league system can play in the Welsh Cup. You might argue TNS are based in England, but they play in the Welsh League.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 February, 2024, 09:23:36 am
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/06/manchester-city-are-in-annihilation-mode-the-double-treble-is-the-target
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By Tuesday morning City were listed at 9-1 with the bookies not just to win the league, not just to win the double, or indeed the treble, but to win a first ever double-treble.
So what is the double-treble? I can only think of five competitions for City to win, not six; do they just mean the treble (or a treble) two years in a row?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 07 February, 2024, 12:47:04 pm
Charity Shield
Global Club championship - or whatever it is called, for winners of the champions league and equivalents in south america etc.
Premiership
FA Cup
League Cup
Champions league

makes 6 which did you forget?  :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 07 February, 2024, 01:50:47 pm
They won the Club World Cup in December but no one really counts that except fans of the club that wins it. Only the league, two domestic cups and European cup really matter. And they're already out of the League Cup.

The Community Shield isn't usually counted either, but in any case they lost that to Arsenal.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 February, 2024, 01:53:48 pm
Charity Shield
Global Club championship - or whatever it is called, for winners of the champions league and equivalents in south america etc.
Premiership
FA Cup
League Cup
Champions league

makes 6 which did you forget?  :P
Charity Shield. I did remember the Club World Cup but dismissed it cos no one really pays any attention to it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 February, 2024, 01:57:19 pm
Anyway that still leaves the question – why not just say "the sextuple" or "the sixer" or something along those lines rather than "the double treble"? (I suppose because "treble" is already a thing and those are not.)

Especially if, as Citoyen points out (cos I don't keep up with these things), they can only win four this season? So I suppose it's just the treble two consecutive years (I'm assuming they trebled last year).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on 07 February, 2024, 02:21:02 pm
You might argue that they lost last years charity shield as you qualify by winning the premiership or FA cup in the previous season, the same case could be made for the club world cup.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 07 February, 2024, 03:04:05 pm
I suppose it's just the treble two consecutive years (I'm assuming they trebled last year).

Yes, exactly that. They won the League, FA Cup and European Cup last year and those are the same three they could potentially still win this year.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 February, 2024, 03:08:36 pm
I suppose it's just the treble two consecutive years (I'm assuming they trebled last year).

Yes, exactly that. They won the League, FA Cup and European Cup last year and those are the same three they could potentially still win this year.
Clear. And definitely a double-treble rather than a sextuple (or whatever).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on 07 February, 2024, 03:10:37 pm
You might argue that they lost last years charity shield as you qualify by winning the premiership or FA cup in the previous season, the same case could be made for the club world cup.

The Community Shield is traditionally regarded as the first match of the new season though. The fact that the participants "qualified" for it by winning trophies in the previous season doesn't change that. Likewise the CWC.

There's also the European Super Cup, held between last season's European Cup and Uefa Cup winners - Man City are the current holders after beating Sevilla back in August (that also counts as this season). So overall, they started the season with the potential to win seven trophies.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 March, 2024, 08:08:18 pm
Is it my imagination, or are footballers much better at shooting from a distance than they used to be? I've watched a lot of highlights this season, and it seems to me that there are loads of very precisely taken goals from outside the penalty area, from a whole variety of players in lots of different teams. It seemed to be the case that, years ago, there were not that many players who had the kind of accuracy at a distance that seems to be commonplace today. I cite Rashford's goal and Foden's first from today's Manchester derby. When I were a yoof it seemed that such goals were the preserve of people like Bobby Charlton, Francis Lee and Peter Lorimer.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 March, 2024, 10:27:55 pm
I have just learned from my younger son which football team is called the Eagle Owls, and why.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Nuncio on 18 March, 2024, 11:05:06 pm
I didn't know that so looked it up.

I didn't have to look up why Sheffield Wednesday are called Sheffield Wednesday

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 March, 2024, 01:00:10 am
Fool!  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 19 March, 2024, 01:02:25 am
This is a touching and encouraging story about ex-England keeper David James, scoring a winner in a non-league match.  He's 53.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68597860 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68597860)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 March, 2024, 08:11:32 pm
Lovely story.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 April, 2024, 11:10:08 pm
Some cracking goals in tonight's Real Madrid v Man City match.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on 13 April, 2024, 03:34:01 pm
Newcastle's success against foreign teams continued in fine style today with a 4-0 win over Tottenham Notspurs.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on 14 April, 2024, 06:26:27 pm
Bollocks. Liverpool and Arsenal losing at home have almost certainly given the title to Man City. Well done to Crystal Palace and Aston Villa.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 April, 2024, 06:34:38 pm
Bollocks. Liverpool and Arsenal losing at home have almost certainly given the title to Man City. Well done to Crystal Palace and Aston Villa.
It was predictable, but I didn't think it would happen for another couple of weeks at least.