Game of Thrones

[citoyen]

Well, to be fair, I don't think I would recognise Ant or Dec without the other one standing next to them.

[caerau]

But do you know which one is which?

[citoyen]

Ant is the annoying Geordie one, while Dec is... er...

[caerau]

Ant is the big one, Dec is the little one.


In mitigation, I should point out I only worked this out last year 

[Bledlow]

But do you know which one is which?

Does it matter?

I've always thought of them as a double-headed single entity, a sort of neotenous Geordie hydra. I've never seen any point in assigning either head a name.

[caerau]

Of course it doesn't matter 

[PaulF]

But which episode do they get killed in?

[Eccentrica Gallumbits]

Ant is the big one, Dec is the little one.


In mitigation, I should point out I only worked this out last year 

They stand in alphabetical order as you look at the screen.

[geraldc]

When they presented SM:tv,  they had a segment called Challenge Ant, where the one called Ant was quizzed mastermind  stylee in a big chair. I remember the segment so have always been able to identify Ant,  so have always recognised Dec, by the fact he's not Ant.
Ant has the larger forehead.

I've been watching George R Martin videos on youtube where he reveals what real historical events he based plot points on. Most of the really violent stuff seems to be Scottish or French history, which explains why I was so bored studying the wars of the Roses at school, but love game of thrones. 

[caerau]

Ant is the big one, Dec is the little one.


In mitigation, I should point out I only worked this out last year 

They stand in alphabetical order as you look at the screen.

Left to right or right to left? 

[mrcharly-YHT]

Daenerys Targaryen Emilia Clarke creates an army of castrated super-soldiers.

Next film.
Emilia Clarke stars alongside male-appearing but neuter robot super-soldier.

Hmm.

[Mr Larrington]

I am just back from an event at Waterstones in Piccadilly at which Dr Larrington was plugging her latest book.  I'm almost tempted to read Mr Martin's works myself now.

She says that an army of eunuchs is a craptacularly bad idea, BTW.

[Riggers]

… "Crapta … What!!? Get out. No, leave your coat where it is!"

[spesh]

I am just back from an event at Waterstones in Piccadilly at which Dr Larrington was plugging her latest book.  I'm almost tempted to read Mr Martin's works myself now.

She says that an army of eunuchs is a craptacularly bad idea, BTW.

I see that she's also been on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4465n9/iama_carolyne_larrington_an_oxford_professor_whos/

[Mr Larrington]

Where she answers the question about industrial revolutions with a comment about "a proper historian" I'm tempted to ask "what about the one you're married to"

Edit: "Have you considered collaborating with a Proper Historian? I'm sure you must be able to find one /somewhere/ in Oxford..."

(Unplugs the phone)

[citoyen]

Any thoughts on the new episode?

Tbh, I'd forgotten a lot of what happened at the end of S5 so I was grateful for the fact that it seemed to be largely a recap of where we stand with all the different narrative strands. And much faster paced than most of the last series. Hope it continues that way.

Khal Moro's "Queen of Nothing" line was a good'un. And naked grannies are always a winner.

[spesh]

I had been wondering if the lack of posts until today was because people were still trying to work out WTF was going on with the Dorne storyline. 

[fuzzy]

I had been wondering if the lack of posts until today was because people were still trying to work out WTF was going on with the Dorne storyline. 

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Oberyn got moidered and his woman and daughters are not happy. His Brother/ Cousin (The Prince Of Dorne) looked like he was doing nowt about it. Cue Ickile Miss Lanister getting sorted whilst trying to escape and this week The prince of dorne getting handed his plate of chips by the Angry Ladies. The Angry Ladies will now invade Kings Landing by subterfuge and there might be some sabotage inspired blood?

My take on things anyway.

[caerau]

1st episode thing really - I'm kind of both thrilled that I no longer have a clue as to what is going to happen but pissed off that he's now definitely holding up the books for the series.


We know which set of fans you find most important Mr Martin then.  Like I've not been reading since 1996 then 


Arya still seems to be malingering in the already published book story arc though - c'mon girl catch up.

[caerau]

I have to say the whole Daenarys after the Mongols Dothraki found her disappointed my predictions.

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I had it down (since this is the scene where the last book ended so it's been up for speculation by me for ages) that the horse lords would take one look at a Dragon Rider and go- Whhoooooooooaaaaah you must be a god - and kneel to her and then she'd march back on Mereen with a screaming horde of  Mongols Dothraki at her beck and call.


Apparently not then.  Surely that's the ultimate outcome.

[citoyen]

We know which set of fans you find most importantlucrative Mr Martin then.

FTFY

I don't care, I've never read the books and don't intend to start. There needs to be some divergence though - I felt one of the problems with the last series was trying to cram in too many diverse storylines, several of them not very interesting (eg Dorne).

[caerau]

We know which set of fans you find most importantlucrative Mr Martin then.

FTFY

I don't care, I've never read the books and don't intend to start. There needs to be some divergence though - I felt one of the problems with the last series was trying to cram in too many diverse storylines, several of them not very interesting (eg Dorne).

 


I've always loved Dorne - but then the books are better at being descriptive.

[caerau]

The TV series has also missed out 50% of why Dorne is important to the storyline - at least so far - so I could see why it might seem peripheral.


This really *might* be spoilery but since the Daenerys story has progressed past where this happened in the book I guess maybe- tentatively not.

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In the book Oberyn's daughter hates him for never marrying her off - the reason we eventually find is that he's secretly betrothed her - with the Spider's help - to Varys Targaryen (Daenerys' brother).  He also has a son (iirc) who goes off to Mereen to marry Daenerys.   This ends in dragonfire before the revolt that sends her off on the Dragon's back - that guy was a travelling companiion of Tyrion as he travelled to her side also).

[citoyen]

Varys Targaryen

ITYM Viserys Targaryen - Varys Targaryen would be an interesting hybrid... 

I've always loved Dorne - but then the books are better at being descriptive.

The Dorne storyline has always seemed like a bit of a distraction in the TV version - probably because, as you say, a lot of important detail has been left out. I liked Oberyn but lost interest in the Martells once he was killed off.

Hopefully the Sand Snakes will over-reach themselves in some way and get their comeuppance, then we can have done with that lot once and for all.

[Mr Larrington]

All youse GoT fans should note that Dr Larrington has only today been recording a piece for The Economist's podcast on the, er, economy of the GoT universe.