Author Topic: Little Eye On The Provinces  (Read 378012 times)

hellymedic

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1400 on: 24 February, 2017, 10:15:05 pm »
Amazing piece of writing!

Would be GREAT if the could give the correct name for the restaurant and the correct URL!

But I am a pedant...

Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1401 on: 25 February, 2017, 09:27:15 am »
A former colleague and I bonded over our shared love of local newspaper restaurant reviews. I've not heard from him for a while but I was tickled when this popped up in my inbox today from him:

http://yorkshiretimes.co.uk/article/Review-Harvesters-Halifax

Well done the Yorkshire Times for getting in there before the Michelin inspectors discovered it.
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"better than what you get at some of the cheaper burger chains" is pure genius.

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1402 on: 25 February, 2017, 09:42:50 am »
Amazing piece of writing!

Would be GREAT if the could give the correct name for the restaurant and the correct URL!

But I am a pedant...

And he claims to have had a "sirlion" steak.  Fresh from the Serengeti?
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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1403 on: 28 February, 2017, 01:06:09 pm »
Ever the innovators, the BBC appear to have added an 'eye on the provinces' module to their news site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12277638

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1404 on: 28 February, 2017, 01:11:54 pm »
A former colleague and I bonded over our shared love of local newspaper restaurant reviews. I've not heard from him for a while but I was tickled when this popped up in my inbox today from him:

http://yorkshiretimes.co.uk/article/Review-Harvesters-Halifax

Well done the Yorkshire Times for getting in there before the Michelin inspectors discovered it.
;D
"better than what you get at some of the cheaper burger chains" is pure genius.
That line had me literally laughing out loud.
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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1406 on: 01 March, 2017, 01:06:07 am »
It's literally a province, so definitely counts.
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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1407 on: 01 March, 2017, 04:13:54 pm »
A bit old. Sorry.

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hellymedic

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1408 on: 01 March, 2017, 04:49:44 pm »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39130580

Not provinces.
In mainstream media.

but...


Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1410 on: 02 March, 2017, 03:59:19 pm »
Motorist complains about legal use of mobility scooter
:o In fairness, she'd got a good point.  That part of the north Derby ring road is really busy!  Riding a mobility scooter on there would be like, I dunno, riding a bike along the A63 on a Saturday afternoon. ;)

hellymedic

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1411 on: 02 March, 2017, 10:47:48 pm »
The problem IMO is that road legal mobility scooters have a maximum speed of 8mph, making them too slow in traffic but too fast for a footway.

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1412 on: 02 March, 2017, 10:57:43 pm »
The problem IMHO is that we don't have proper cycling infrastructure, and it's not currently legal to use a mobility scooter on cycling infrastructure.

Upping the speed of road/cyclepath-going scooters to 25kph in line with e-bikes would seem reasonable TAAW.

Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1413 on: 03 March, 2017, 08:42:16 am »
Upping the speed of road/cyclepath-going scooters to 25kph in line with e-bikes would seem reasonable TAAW.
TBH, this strikes me as a very poor idea.  Even at 25kph a mobility scooter is going to be a sitting duck amidst regular traffic (like a milkfloat on a motorway), yet way too fast for footway use on anything but an empty, well-surfaced, straight footway (even 8mph on my M-I-L's scooter alongside the die-straight Avenues of Hull feels pretty zippy, and I wouldn't want to corner at that speed).  There's a fundamental difference in manoeuvrability between an e-bike and a scooter.


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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1414 on: 03 March, 2017, 09:39:31 am »
Speaking as a pedestrian who doesn't always hear ignorant-twat-operated silent electric vehicles sneaking up narrow pavements behind him, being rammed in the back of the legs at 15mph wwould be a bit different from being rammed in the back of the legs at 5-6mph.

I hope the operators of these things carry 3rd party insurance, because one day I *will* sue.
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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1415 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:15:10 pm »
Upping the speed of road/cyclepath-going scooters to 25kph in line with e-bikes would seem reasonable TAAW.
TBH, this strikes me as a very poor idea.  Even at 25kph a mobility scooter is going to be a sitting duck amidst regular traffic (like a milkfloat on a motorway), yet way too fast for footway use on anything but an empty, well-surfaced, straight footway (even 8mph on my M-I-L's scooter alongside the die-straight Avenues of Hull feels pretty zippy, and I wouldn't want to corner at that speed).  There's a fundamental difference in manoeuvrability between an e-bike and a scooter.

I mean for road/cyclepath use.  It'd still have to run according to Class 2 rules (4mph limit) on a footway.

Seems to work in the Netherlands.

Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1416 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:33:47 pm »
Upping the speed of road/cyclepath-going scooters to 25kph in line with e-bikes would seem reasonable TAAW.
TBH, this strikes me as a very poor idea. Even at 25kph a mobility scooter is going to be a sitting duck amidst regular traffic (like a milkfloat on a motorway), yet way too fast for footway use on anything but an empty, well-surfaced, straight footway (even 8mph on my M-I-L's scooter alongside the die-straight Avenues of Hull feels pretty zippy, and I wouldn't want to corner at that speed).  There's a fundamental difference in manoeuvrability between an e-bike and a scooter.

I mean for road/cyclepath use.  It'd still have to run according to Class 2 rules (4mph limit) on a footway.

Seems to work in the Netherlands.
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hellymedic

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1417 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:42:34 pm »
Upping the speed of road/cyclepath-going scooters to 25kph in line with e-bikes would seem reasonable TAAW.
TBH, this strikes me as a very poor idea.  Even at 25kph a mobility scooter is going to be a sitting duck amidst regular traffic (like a milkfloat on a motorway), yet way too fast for footway use on anything but an empty, well-surfaced, straight footway (even 8mph on my M-I-L's scooter alongside the die-straight Avenues of Hull feels pretty zippy, and I wouldn't want to corner at that speed).  There's a fundamental difference in manoeuvrability between an e-bike and a scooter.
I mean for road/cyclepath use.  It'd still have to run according to Class 2 rules (4mph limit) on a footway.
There are reasons I never replaced my Class II 3rd hand scooter when it died...

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1418 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:43:01 pm »
How is a 25kph scooter any worse in traffic than a tricycle?  Sure, I'd try to pick a route that avoided the Derby ring-road, but many of us ride trikes in urban traffic and can attest that it isn't instant DETH (indeed, if anything, it's safer than a bicycle, as you're more likely to be seen).

And yes there's a fundamental difference in manoeuvrability between a scooter and a bicycle:  A scooter has a tighter turning circle and a stall speed of zero.  I'm not sure why that's an argument against the scooter.  Presumably anything built to do 25kph would be designed to not be hopelessly unstable at that speed, and like any other vehicle, you slow down for corners.  You see people using such things in the Netherlands, and the technology appears to be a solved problem.  What we need is more appropriate infrastructure, and the legal changes to allow scooter users to use it.  A scooter user on a cyclepath is one less car.

citoyen

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1419 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:44:52 pm »
Even at 25kph a mobility scooter is going to be a sitting duck amidst regular traffic

No more so than cyclists, surely?
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hellymedic

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1420 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:48:46 pm »
Maybe the scooter I ditched was particularly poor but its response to my requests for it to both stop and go seemed very tardy, much slower than on a bicycle. Then there's the extra mass...

citoyen

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1421 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:49:54 pm »
It'd still have to run according to Class 2 rules (4mph limit) on a footway.

One thing I'm not sure about, not being a user of mobility scooters - do scooters intended for footway use have built-in speed limiters or are they like cars, reliant on the operator to observe the rules? I've often encountered scooters going somewhat quicker than that on the pavement...
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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1422 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:51:58 pm »
It'd still have to run according to Class 2 rules (4mph limit) on a footway.

One thing I'm not sure about, not being a user of mobility scooters - do scooters intended for footway use have built-in speed limiters or are they like cars, reliant on the operator to observe the rules? I've often encountered scooters going somewhat quicker than that on the pavement...

A Class 2 scooter can only do 4mph, otherwise it isn't a Class 2.

A Class 3 scooter generally has a switch that limits it to 4mph for footways, but can do 8mph in road-going mode.

(Class 1 is human powered and has no speed limit.)

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1423 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:55:03 pm »
Maybe the scooter I ditched was particularly poor but its response to my requests for it to both stop and go seemed very tardy, much slower than on a bicycle. Then there's the extra mass...

Sure, but it was only designed to go at a speed where crappy controls weren't a complete liability.  There's no reason they *have* to be poorly-engineered.

Bicycles are designed to go faster, and have better brakes.  Presumably the same is true for Dutch fast scooters.

hellymedic

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Re: Little Eye On The Provinces
« Reply #1424 on: 03 March, 2017, 01:55:43 pm »
It'd still have to run according to Class 2 rules (4mph limit) on a footway.

One thing I'm not sure about, not being a user of mobility scooters - do scooters intended for footway use have built-in speed limiters or are they like cars, reliant on the operator to observe the rules? I've often encountered scooters going somewhat quicker than that on the pavement...

The speed limit is inbuilt; you cannot do a quick burst past a dawdler, so are constrained to their 2mph.

It's apparently illegal for an able-bodied person to use these things but partner still used my scooter to schlep 50kg building supplies half a mile home.