Author Topic: Factual errors in songs.  (Read 48536 times)

Paul

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #175 on: 23 December, 2020, 04:56:37 pm »
We all assume that George was deploying artistic licence when he sang “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart,” because it’s not a song about organ donation.

But what’s this? In the very next line we’re told “But the very next day, you gave it away.”

That just doesn’t work if you’re using ‘heart’ to mean love. The ungrateful recipient of George’s love can’t just pass his love on to someone else.

And it gets curiouser; next the (now heartless, remember) George says “This year, to save me from tears, I’ll give it to someone special.”

I think we have to consider the possibility that George actually gave his heart to B, who (without consent) within 24 hours transferred the heart to C. Then, somehow (no details are provided) in the intervening 12 months, George retrieved his heart and - having learned precisely nothing from the previous Yuletide’s misappropriation - determines to repeat the catastrophe with a new as yet unidentified host (D).

Is it possible that this entire shambles arises from the fact that George couldn’t be bothered to come up with a better rhyme than ‘day’ and ‘away’?

I suppose it might be an edible heart. That of a lamb or a chicken, perhaps. Funny song though, if that’s the case.

This post had better not count for Whamageddon  purposes.   >:(
My reading of it is that you have to hear the song performed by the group, so you’re fine.

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #176 on: 23 December, 2020, 05:10:56 pm »
I don't believe Peter Gabriel saw an eagle on Solsbury Hill.
Tourist eagle*. :)

*A buzzard.
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rogerzilla

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #177 on: 23 December, 2020, 06:27:14 pm »
As we're doing Christmas, one of my personal guilty pleasures by Johnny Mathis:

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Waiting for one child
Black, white, yellow, no-one knows
But a child that will grow up and turn tears to laughter,
Hate to love, war to peace and everyone to everyone's neighbour

The Crusades? The Troubles? Henry the fricking Eighth?
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #178 on: 23 December, 2020, 08:58:54 pm »
I don't believe Peter Gabriel saw an eagle on Solsbury Hill.

No one ever saw any members of the Sialia genus anywhere near the Kent coast either. Not unless their migration had gone very badly wrong.

Maybe they had escaped from a lorry parked up at Manston

You’re confusing bluebirds with Sudanese refugees.
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #179 on: 01 January, 2021, 06:01:46 pm »
"Do They Know It's Christmas?" (Band Aid)

It was unlikely in Ethiopia....

Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #180 on: 01 January, 2021, 07:05:33 pm »
"Do They Know It's Christmas?" (Band Aid)

It was unlikely in Ethiopia....
Ethiopia is a Christian country, one of the oldest Christian communities.
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #181 on: 01 January, 2021, 08:27:40 pm »
"Do They Know It's Christmas?" (Band Aid)

It was unlikely in Ethiopia....
Ethiopia is a Christian country, one of the oldest Christian communities.



True, but the Church is Orthodox....

ian

Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #182 on: 01 January, 2021, 08:31:59 pm »
"Do They Know It's Christmas?" (Band Aid)

It was unlikely in Ethiopia....
Ethiopia is a Christian country, one of the oldest Christian communities.

To be fair, they call it Ganna (or Genna) and it's on the 7th January. Melkam Genna!

But they also have thirteen months every year and an extraordinary number of still-working Trabants. I've never been sure if Trabants had suspension when they were built (unlikely I suppose) but none of them have suspension now.

(Having travelled through a fair amount of Africa I can answer the question with 'yes, they do know it's Christmas, so fuck off Bob')

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #183 on: 01 January, 2021, 09:54:41 pm »
I was, for reasons best explained by being a distracted nerd, reading the comments[1] in tzdata[2] the other night.  Ethiopia is one of the time zones they shrugged at and gave up  because it was impossible to represent in the structure of the database.  They also - for reasons that presumably make sense for an agricultural country close to the equator, but probably double as a cheerful up-yours[3] to the colonisers - like to use solar time, starting from sunrise/sunset rather than the meridian, which puts their clocks about 6 hours out of phase with EAT.

Thankfully, none of this has anything to do with Bob Geldof.


[1] The whole thing's about 10% time zone definitions, and 90% comments containing citations of the relevant historical research.  It reads as a protracted saga of frustrated engineers sifting through the strata of colonial history in a seemingly futile quest to make computers do clocks properly.
[2] "Tzdata, tzdata: Gives you an excuse for getting up later."  Software that unisex computers use to do things like leap seconds and work out whether Bulgaria was doing daylight saving on the 23rd of July 1981, and if so, by how much.
[3] See also: Belgium, who have form for this sort of thing.

Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #184 on: 01 January, 2021, 10:02:45 pm »
An Ethiopian neighbour had great difficulty with the Home Office (residency) and US Immigration (first with a visa application and then with entry), over her date of birth, because 1, the Ethiopian calendar is different, and 2, there isn't a standard way of working out equivalent dates in Gregorian reckoning.

ian

Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #185 on: 02 January, 2021, 09:12:17 pm »
The name of Pagume (the 13th month of 5 or 6 days) is derived from the Greek for the days we didn’t know what to do with. So it’s basically the days that didn’t get picked for any of the teams, like me in PE. It’s to ensure alignment with the lunar calendar and the rise of Sirius. It’s the fault of the Egyptians. I swear this made a lot more sense after a few drinks.

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #186 on: 08 June, 2021, 05:56:23 am »
No Thom not just “anyone” can play guitar. 

I’m living proof of that.

Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #187 on: 08 June, 2021, 09:22:45 pm »
I'm not familiar with Pete Bax: Nothing lives for ever

But this thread is getting close.

Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #188 on: 09 June, 2021, 11:15:43 am »
No Mr Bowie, you are not an alligator.
But he was a space invader.
ISTR that at Live Aid, David Bowie shortened his appearance to make way for the video of starving children that had been created to accompany The Cars' "Drive".
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #189 on: 09 June, 2021, 05:02:36 pm »
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No, it doesn't.

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #190 on: 09 June, 2021, 09:20:08 pm »
ISTR that at Live Aid, David Bowie shortened his appearance to make way for the video of starving children that had been created to accompany The Cars' "Drive".
No one from this planet is that awesome.
[/quote]

He was.
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #191 on: 24 December, 2021, 03:24:46 pm »
*** SPECIAL CRIMBO EDITION ***

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A spaceman came travelling on a ship from afar
Was light years of time since his mission did start

 :facepalm:
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #192 on: 24 December, 2021, 03:45:43 pm »
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Paul

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #193 on: 28 January, 2022, 04:58:49 pm »
”54 - 46 was my number”
“That’s a hell of a chainset, Toots.”

(I know it’s not really a factual error; just couldn’t think where else to put it)
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #194 on: 28 January, 2022, 05:07:19 pm »
 ;D :thumbsup:

Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #195 on: 11 February, 2022, 11:01:46 am »
While it's possible that yo' momma did done rock you in the cradle in them ol' cotton fields back home - it's not beyond a farm labourer to tote a cot outside, I presume - it didn't happen down in Louisiana, just about a mile from Texarkana. Texarkana, in location as well as in name, straddles the Texas/Arkansas border.

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #196 on: 11 February, 2022, 11:11:04 am »
That one ^^^^ has bugged me since forever.  Bad Mr Fogerty.  You weren’t born on the bayou either.  You're from Berkeley CA.

While on the subj. of geog. the only reason that people don't forget Winona AZ is because Bobby Troup needed a rhyme for “Arizona”.  The place actually contains a good deal of not very much.
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #197 on: 11 February, 2022, 12:13:57 pm »
Not just Fogerty - it was actually Leadbelly who wrote it. He sang that it was just ten miles from Texarkana, admittedly, but that's stretching it somewhat too.

rogerzilla

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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #198 on: 11 February, 2022, 12:17:38 pm »
The Gershwins' "Ain't Necessarily So" from Porgy and Bess, nicely covered by Bronski Beat:

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Now Jonah he lived in a whale
Jonah he lived in a whale
He made his home in
A fish's abdomen
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Re: Factual errors in songs.
« Reply #199 on: 11 February, 2022, 06:10:07 pm »
Not just Fogerty - it was actually Leadbelly who wrote it. He sang that it was just ten miles from Texarkana, admittedly, but that's stretching it somewhat too.

That's one for “Things I Learned Today” :thumbsup:
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