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Title: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 02 February, 2019, 05:32:05 pm
Roll with the conditions, for a rare chance to see how the kit fares.

Probably walk out from home for a few miles and find a handy copse.  Should be fun ;D

Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: PaulF on 02 February, 2019, 05:41:11 pm
Roll with the conditions, for a rare chance to see how the kit fares.

Probably walk out from home for a few miles and find a handy copse.  Should be fun ;D



You’re mad! I’m only a few miles away and it’s already subzero here
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: BrianI on 02 February, 2019, 06:18:52 pm
No the nicht - forecast to be freezing conditions up here in Fifeshire.

I do have a plan on doing some like bike and bivvying in the spring / summer, I have found a location which is just a few miles on the MTB away :-)
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 February, 2019, 10:46:23 pm
You'll have to change your name to Ötzi.  :o
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Steve S. on 02 February, 2019, 10:52:29 pm
Bit too cold for me tonight. Still wearing shorts but had to put a big jumper on today.
Interested in pic's and kit list though.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 03 February, 2019, 07:00:33 am
I wussed out - walked the total of 30', to the top of the garden. setting up around 11:30.  Slept 'til about 6am, waking every couple hours (one Wowbagger ;D) - clear skies, pretty twinkling stars :thumbsup:

(https://i.imgur.com/EFavDGD.jpg)
Brrrr...got distinctly cool between 3-6 where upper surfaces contacted, mainly due to the condensation freezing inside the Hunka, and starting to affect the Ember insulation - would've been better under tarp / tent, having distinct air gap, defintely wasn't as chilly on Tan Hill in the tent.

>Interested in pic's and kit list though.
Tramped the SNO down.  Plastic tarp as groundsheet, Hunka XL, Exped Synmat HL Winter LW, 9cm thick (-18c rating), S2S Ember III quilt (-11c rating).  Worn: Fulke Mountain Men Socks, Leggings (+thin Trolls from ~5am), Helly base layer, Fleece, Bobble hat.   Never needed gloves.  Laces on boots froze, despite being wrapped in bags.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 03 February, 2019, 07:11:22 am
Roll with the conditions, for a rare chance to see how the kit fares.

Probably walk out from home for a few miles and find a handy copse.  Should be fun ;D



You’re mad! I’m only a few miles away and it’s already subzero here

The stranger in yer garden ain't a tramp ;D
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: PaulF on 03 February, 2019, 10:17:51 am
Roll with the conditions, for a rare chance to see how the kit fares.

Probably walk out from home for a few miles and find a handy copse.  Should be fun ;D



You’re mad! I’m only a few miles away and it’s already subzero here

The stranger in yer garden ain't a tramp ;D

I’m sticking with tramp ;D
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: vorsprung on 03 February, 2019, 08:55:15 pm
I wussed out - walked the total of 30', to the top of the garden. setting up around 11:30.  Slept 'til about 6am, waking every couple hours (one Wowbagger ;D) - clear skies, pretty twinkling stars :thumbsup:

(https://i.imgur.com/EFavDGD.jpg)
Brrrr...got distinctly cool between 3-6 where upper surfaces contacted, mainly due to the condensation freezing inside the Hunka, and starting to affect the Ember insulation - would've been better under tarp / tent, having distinct air gap, defintely wasn't as chilly on Tan Hill in the tent.

>Interested in pic's and kit list though.
Tramped the SNO down.  Plastic tarp as groundsheet, Hunka XL, Exped Synmat HL Winter LW, 9cm thick (-18c rating), S2S Ember III quilt (-11c rating).  Worn: Fulke Mountain Men Socks, Leggings (+thin Trolls from ~5am), Helly base layer, Fleece, Bobble hat.   Never needed gloves.  Laces on boots froze, despite being wrapped in bags.

ACB are doing a camping trip next Tuesday,  My kit is all with summer trips in mind, no way I'd want to use it in February!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 February, 2019, 09:52:31 am
Yebbut it's to a pub...
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Steve S. on 04 February, 2019, 10:47:33 am
I wussed out - walked the total of 30', to the top of the garden. setting up around 11:30.  Slept 'til about 6am, waking every couple hours (one Wowbagger ;D) - clear skies, pretty twinkling stars :thumbsup:

(https://i.imgur.com/EFavDGD.jpg)
Brrrr...got distinctly cool between 3-6 where upper surfaces contacted, mainly due to the condensation freezing inside the Hunka, and starting to affect the Ember insulation - would've been better under tarp / tent, having distinct air gap, defintely wasn't as chilly on Tan Hill in the tent.

>Interested in pic's and kit list though.
Tramped the SNO down.  Plastic tarp as groundsheet, Hunka XL, Exped Synmat HL Winter LW, 9cm thick (-18c rating), S2S Ember III quilt (-11c rating).  Worn: Fulke Mountain Men Socks, Leggings (+thin Trolls from ~5am), Helly base layer, Fleece, Bobble hat.   Never needed gloves.  Laces on boots froze, despite being wrapped in bags.


Well 'Ard!     
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Gruby Mits on 20 February, 2019, 04:14:34 pm
Found the Hunka great in wet conditions, above and below, but wont let condensation disperse from inside... Hence feeling cold by morning or wet if too warm in the night. Gone with a MSR e-bivvy that is plastic on bottom and not so on top. It fends ok in drizzle. When really wet we use a lightweight Rab tarp anyway. Not such an affordable set up as Alpkit, but having suffered a few times I did not mind shelling for a good night sleep. Not crazy enoigh to go out just yet though! 😀
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: bludger on 21 January, 2020, 04:39:40 pm
Happy new year bin bag dwellers.

I'm going bivvying for the first time in 2020 on Saturday - somewhere in the New Forest (shhhhh) for a bike ride on Sunday morning. Fun!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Bolt on 21 January, 2020, 09:26:16 pm
Happy new year bin bag dwellers.

I'm going bivvying for the first time in 2020 on Saturday - somewhere in the New Forest (shhhhh) for a bike ride on Sunday morning. Fun!
Good luck and I look forward to hearing how it went.  I hope to do some bivvying this year for the first time since I spent a night under an oilskin poncho (RAF recruit training 1979)... but I'm going to wait till the weather gets warmer :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Phil W on 21 January, 2020, 10:24:24 pm
My first bivvy dates back to over 40 years ago on the northern edges of Bleaklow. How time flies!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: JBB on 22 January, 2020, 12:48:17 pm
Happy new year bin bag dwellers.

I'm going bivvying for the first time in 2020 on Saturday - somewhere in the New Forest (shhhhh) for a bike ride on Sunday morning. Fun!

Take care then, it really is astonishingly wet at the moment so mind the bogs! I've got something similar in mind sometime soon but it's easy for me as we live in the New Forest National Park. If you want you can PM me if you want contact details in case it all goes a bit Pete Tong.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: bludger on 22 January, 2020, 12:58:20 pm
Cheers JBB but I won't be in the bowels of the forest, more on the margin of one of the settlements inside the park area but I appreciate the offer ;D
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: JBB on 22 January, 2020, 01:45:04 pm
Cheers JBB but I won't be in the bowels of the forest, more on the margin of one of the settlements inside the park area but I appreciate the offer ;D

Hmm, well take care that your quiet spot is uncontaminated by dog (or worse human) shit. Have a great time!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 23 January, 2020, 09:06:39 pm
My first bivvy was in 1975 new year eve. Up on kinder in a bright orange survival bag. I woke up with snow on the bag!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: bludger on 26 January, 2020, 12:21:58 am
Currently ensconced. Gosh this sleeping bag is warm - there's a bit of deer poo on the bag, mat (and my cycle shoes) but otherwise all going well!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Goldcrank on 26 January, 2020, 09:50:54 am
I slept in a churchyard once and a fox curled one off on the end of my toe.  That must have taken some balance not to have woken me up.   My world smelled of fox for the next two days.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: bludger on 26 January, 2020, 04:25:35 pm
Worked out alright! Very temperate night time. Bit wet in the morning but I waited for it to subside a bit and then rode off. Recommended!

Some potential changes to make:

Army arctic sleeping bag might be a bit overkill but better that than be cold

Full length mat would work better than 3/4 - water did get through a bit at the bottom of the bag

Might pick somewhere further away from any road next time, including church yard. Some odd things were happening at 11pm.

(https://i.imgur.com/0Tz0aom.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wkLXOYD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/L1Hy9EU.jpg)
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: perpetual dan on 29 January, 2020, 09:45:33 pm
Glad it worked out. It’s years since I bivvied, though I’ve been meaning to again. Can’t help but be curious about what was happening at 11 ;)
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: bludger on 29 January, 2020, 10:24:33 pm
It was a bit odd. Didn't seem like anything 'dodgy', I think it might have been some teenagers running around the graveyard taking photos of each other with the camera flash on while they were waiting for someone else to pick them up.

Anyway thankfully they didn't come across me. No other bothers.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Canardly on 31 January, 2020, 01:51:38 pm
You would probably have scared the bejesus out of them. :)
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 15 April, 2020, 11:41:46 am
A little bored I am which has led me to spend 30ish quid on an eBay tarp, a couple of poles and a bit more paracord.  I already have a Hunka bivvy bag, mat and sleeping bag.

I'm thinking a back garden bivvy might be fun.  Anyone else up for it?  If so perhaps we can agree on a date in the foreseeable and do it together in a not together kinda way.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: The Family Cyclist on 15 April, 2020, 11:53:11 am
I might go hammock. I don't own a bivvy bag, borrowed thr one for our Mersea trip and I'm a bit put off as know there's a few rats about in my garden currently.... They're being dealt with shall we say
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 15 April, 2020, 12:01:42 pm
I might go hammock. I don't own a bivvy bag, borrowed thr one for our Mersea trip and I'm a bit put off as know there's a few rats about in my garden currently.... They're being dealt with shall we say

Sounds good  :thumbsup:  We try to agree a date, why not join the virtual MEMWNS this evening so we can discuss?
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on 15 April, 2020, 12:14:13 pm
MEN With No Shame ?
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 15 April, 2020, 12:17:58 pm
MEN With No Shame ?

You're not a million miles from the truth but actually this (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=22529.14550).  And we do have female participants too  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: bludger on 15 April, 2020, 12:31:45 pm
I did the NHS garden camp-out a few weeks ago - I slept on a hard standing as everything else is uneven. it was pretty fun!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 15 April, 2020, 12:37:41 pm
I did the NHS garden camp-out a few weeks ago - I slept on a hard standing as everything else is uneven. it was pretty fun!

I missed that, time to catch up!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Pedal Castro on 15 April, 2020, 09:10:31 pm
I did a virtual ride in Flanders this afternoon, now camping in the garden with Rochefort 10 and Westveleteren 12  ;D
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: JBB on 16 April, 2020, 03:22:48 pm
I did the NHS garden camp-out a few weeks ago - I slept on a hard standing as everything else is uneven. it was pretty fun!

I missed that, time to catch up!

It's quite a big deal. Running again on May Bank holiday. I did the Easter one and tried out my new carcamping tesnt. Very pleased with the Robens Pioneer EX3. Very well put together and acres of room. If I ever go cycletouring in the winter I might just consider taking it at 2.8 kg.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 16 April, 2020, 03:25:21 pm
I did the NHS garden camp-out a few weeks ago - I slept on a hard standing as everything else is uneven. it was pretty fun!

I missed that, time to catch up!

It's quite a big deal. Running again on May Bank holiday. I did the Easter one and tried out my new carcamping tesnt. Very pleased with the Robens Pioneer EX3. Very well put together and acres of room. If I ever go cycletouring in the winter I might just consider taking it at 2.8 kg.

May Bank Holiday might work!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Regulator on 16 April, 2020, 04:18:42 pm
A little bored I am which has led me to spend 30ish quid on an eBay tarp, a couple of poles and a bit more paracord.  I already have a Hunka bivvy bag, mat and sleeping bag.

I'm thinking a back garden bivvy might be fun.  Anyone else up for it?  If so perhaps we can agree on a date in the foreseeable and do it together in a not together kinda way.

Ooh - I might be up for this, if it were a weekend night...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 16 April, 2020, 05:04:19 pm
A little bored I am which has led me to spend 30ish quid on an eBay tarp, a couple of poles and a bit more paracord.  I already have a Hunka bivvy bag, mat and sleeping bag.

I'm thinking a back garden bivvy might be fun.  Anyone else up for it?  If so perhaps we can agree on a date in the foreseeable and do it together in a not together kinda way.

Ooh - I might be up for this, if it were a weekend night...  :thumbsup:

Gulp.  And you know where I live. Remember social distancing  ;D :-*
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Regulator on 17 April, 2020, 07:25:51 am
A little bored I am which has led me to spend 30ish quid on an eBay tarp, a couple of poles and a bit more paracord.  I already have a Hunka bivvy bag, mat and sleeping bag.

I'm thinking a back garden bivvy might be fun.  Anyone else up for it?  If so perhaps we can agree on a date in the foreseeable and do it together in a not together kinda way.

Ooh - I might be up for this, if it were a weekend night...  :thumbsup:

Gulp.  And you know where I live. Remember social distancing  ;D :-*

We could do remote back garden bivvying.   The WiFi reaches into our garden.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 17 April, 2020, 07:31:47 am
Reg, after much deliberation it’s been decided you can take part but you have to dress up as The Mad Monk again!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Bobby on 17 April, 2020, 10:00:14 am
It's my daughters birthday next week & she's asked to celebrate with garden camping.  She's a little nervous of it but has agreed that she & I will bivy/tarp whilst the wife (who is not up for the idea at all) and youngest will go in one of the tents  :thumbsup:

Will be the first use of my 'new' bivy, not quite the circumstances planned, but a nice way to get some use of it all the same. 
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: UshCha on 17 April, 2020, 05:47:25 pm
I slept out last night my excuse was to try out a new bike parking system and my newly arrived sea to summit sleeping pad and it is great to vary routine a bit.  The new pad the ultralight insulated with pump was fine.  I had not read anywhere about the "pillow lock" system.  It was too late to put the sticky stuff on last night so I did it today.  Being a picky sort with pillows I have one of the approved sea to summit pillows, issues with balance make me picky.  The stuff you stick on does not seem very sticky but the pillow definitely "sticks" to the pads.  So one up for sea to summit.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 21 August, 2020, 02:57:05 pm
Off to try the (new) Elan tonight - could be a baptism of fire for it, better make sure I'm well anchored / sheltered ;D
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 August, 2020, 03:04:03 pm
Off to try the (new) Elan tonight - could be a baptism of fire for it, better make sure I'm well anchored / sheltered ;D

Yes, fill you pockets with rocks or your bivvy might turn into some sort of airship!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 21 August, 2020, 11:11:42 pm
‘tis fine; on the Wansdyke above Pewsey, but lovely flat space surrounded by trees, so it’s like the eye of the storm.

Night John boy....
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 22 August, 2020, 07:23:38 am
‘tis fine; on the Wansdyke above Pewsey, but lovely flat space surrounded by trees, so it’s like the eye of the storm.

Night John boy....

How’s it this morning?  Did you get blown away?  ;D
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: nobby on 22 August, 2020, 01:55:04 pm
‘tis fine; on the Wansdyke above Pewsey, but lovely flat space surrounded by trees, so it’s like the eye of the storm.

Night John boy....

How’s it this morning?  Did you get blown away?  ;D
No reply is a bit of a worry.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 22 August, 2020, 09:54:10 pm
No, It's fine; didn't notice anything overnight at all.

Being a side sleeper though the Elan wa s a bit tight at the sholders (in vertical plane), but that's probably due to using the Exped 9cm mat; I'll try it with a 5cm.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: nobby on 23 August, 2020, 07:00:19 am
No, It's fine; didn't notice anything overnight at all.

Being a side sleeper though the Elan wa s a bit tight at the sholders (in vertical plane), but that's probably due to using the Exped 9cm mat; I'll try it with a 5cm.

May I ask how wide you are at the shoulders? My Elan is on its way and I side sleep.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 23 August, 2020, 09:53:50 am
Scapula-Scapula: 18cm
Outside edges: ~49cm

It was a thick mat (Exped 9cm) thobut, normally it’d be the Soloist tent (for colder times), which has more room - I’ll see what a Cloudbase (5cm) fits/feels like when it turns up...bivvy somewhere on the way to Peak District end Sept.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: nobby on 23 August, 2020, 01:30:39 pm
Scapula-Scapula: 18cm
Outside edges: ~49cm

It was a thick mat (Exped 9cm) thobut, normally it’d be the Soloist tent (for colder times), which has more room - I’ll see what a Cloudbase (5cm) fits/feels like when it turns up...bivvy somewhere on the way to Peak District end Sept.

I'm only 47cm and my NeoAir is 6.5cm so it should be ok. I like the look of the Cloudbase. The shape seems good for comfortable sleeping.
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: nobby on 05 May, 2021, 06:54:38 am
Scapula-Scapula: 18cm
Outside edges: ~49cm

It was a thick mat (Exped 9cm) thobut, normally it’d be the Soloist tent (for colder times), which has more room - I’ll see what a Cloudbase (5cm) fits/feels like when it turns up...bivvy somewhere on the way to Peak District end Sept.

How did you get on with the Cloudbase mat?
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: iddu on 08 May, 2021, 08:06:25 am
It was fine, didn’t sleep any different / notice any less comfort - but then we rarely get consecutive sub-X degree days for an extended comparison ;)
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Joe.B on 19 May, 2021, 01:13:00 pm
Not tonight, but last week.

Had dinner as normal with the rest of the clan and then set out for an overnighter up to the Otterburn Rangers in Northumbria.  Brilliant night for a bivvy, clear starry sky and surprisingly mild, though I was woken in the night by an inquisitive sheep.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51188454452_cdd1aef482_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZmd8w)IMG_20210510_050129446 (https://flic.kr/p/2kZmd8w) by Joe B (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: nobby on 19 May, 2021, 04:11:30 pm
Not tonight, but last week.

Had dinner as normal with the rest of the clan and then set out for an overnighter up to the Otterburn Rangers in Northumbria.  Brilliant night for a bivvy, clear starry sky and surprisingly mild, though I was woken in the night by an inquisitive sheep.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51188454452_cdd1aef482_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZmd8w)IMG_20210510_050129446 (https://flic.kr/p/2kZmd8w) by Joe B (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
;D
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: nobby on 19 May, 2021, 04:17:38 pm

Brrrr...got distinctly cool between 3-6 where upper surfaces contacted, mainly due to the condensation freezing inside the Hunka, and starting to affect the Ember insulation - would've been better under tarp / tent, having distinct air gap, defintely wasn't as chilly on Tan Hill in the tent.

If you get condensation inside the Hunka isn't it because you have dressed too warm?
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: Joe.B on 12 June, 2021, 09:49:58 pm
Bivvy night out with the lad on the banks of the River Ancholme about a mile from where it meets the Humber.
Very warm night, we both ended up losing the Bivvy bags to keep cool. Of course it rained at 4am so we had to hastily get back into them.

Not tonight, last week but I’ve only just gotten round to uploading the photos.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51243673660_0297d8c786_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m5edSQ)IMG_20210604_061725846 (https://flic.kr/p/2m5edSQ) by Joe B (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: jiberjaber on 12 July, 2021, 04:57:11 pm
Off to try the (new) Elan tonight - could be a baptism of fire for it, better make sure I'm well anchored / sheltered ;D

So I managed a night in heavy rain the other weekend in my Elan. Whats the secret to keeping the rain out and an air vent above?  I have the main zip about 10cm open at the 2 oclock position of the main zip and somehow the rain managed to get in and drip on to the floor. I was on my Numo which is quite good at keeping you our of any water but surprised as I fished my phone and shoes off the wet floor!
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: nobby on 12 July, 2021, 08:45:48 pm

So I managed a night in heavy rain the other weekend in my Elan. Whats the secret to keeping the rain out and an air vent above?  I have the main zip about 10cm open at the 2 oclock position of the main zip and somehow the rain managed to get in and drip on to the floor. I was on my Numo which is quite good at keeping you our of any water but surprised as I fished my phone and shoes off the wet floor!
Is the built in air vent with the flap to protect it from rain insufficient?
Title: Re: Bivvying Tonight?
Post by: jiberjaber on 12 July, 2021, 09:12:41 pm

So I managed a night in heavy rain the other weekend in my Elan. Whats the secret to keeping the rain out and an air vent above?  I have the main zip about 10cm open at the 2 oclock position of the main zip and somehow the rain managed to get in and drip on to the floor. I was on my Numo which is quite good at keeping you our of any water but surprised as I fished my phone and shoes off the wet floor!
Is the built in air vent with the flap to protect it from rain insufficient?

I always seem to wake up and need the gap at the top, not sure if that's a psychological concern or not.