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Title: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 24 November, 2021, 04:54:40 pm
I vote for YouTube adverts.  As a point of principle, I won't buy a product for which I am forced to watch an ad.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: JonBuoy on 24 November, 2021, 05:01:48 pm
People asking stupid questions in forums?
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: robgul on 24 November, 2021, 05:03:46 pm
The endless bloody pop-ups asking about cookies or whether I want to "chat with an agent" -

YT ads also come into the frame too . . . although I only look at YT on a PC so all you have to do is wait until it says "skip ads" not have to endure them.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Jaded on 24 November, 2021, 05:11:07 pm
All those and I'll add Cookies
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 24 November, 2021, 05:16:10 pm
Facebook?  Or advertising in general, really.

The rot set in when they started letting in people who didn't know how to configure PPP/SLIP.   ;D
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: T42 on 24 November, 2021, 05:19:33 pm
I vote for YouTube adverts.  As a point of principle, I won't buy a product for which I am forced to watch an ad.

My ad blocker stops them. AdBlock Plus on Firefox.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 24 November, 2021, 05:23:35 pm
There's also the youtube-dl or play-Youtube-videos-with-VLC approach.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Feanor on 24 November, 2021, 05:31:27 pm
All local newspaper websites.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: TheLurker on 24 November, 2021, 05:58:32 pm
"Social" media sites/companies.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Lightning Phil on 24 November, 2021, 06:02:42 pm
Know it alls , whose only source of information is what the search engine throws up.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Canardly on 24 November, 2021, 06:04:43 pm
Misinformation and erosion of privacy.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 24 November, 2021, 06:25:20 pm
People asking stupid questions in forums?
I was expecting the first follow-up to be "rogerzilla", so that was quite kind  ;D
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Mr Larrington on 24 November, 2021, 06:33:10 pm
Shitverts, especially those that are allegedly “tailored to ur intrest's”.  No, my use of the word “field” in a Farcebok post does not mean I want to buy a fucking tractor >:(
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 24 November, 2021, 06:36:18 pm
Amazon's search results have to be in the top 5.

Search for something specific with a brand and model name, and it bombards you with results for off-brand Chinese shite instead.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Basil on 24 November, 2021, 07:21:36 pm
All local newspaper websites.

This. In spades.
Sorry to all concerned, but I never bother clicking your link these days. Probably best to write a synopsis.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 24 November, 2021, 07:32:05 pm
All local newspaper websites.

This. In spades.
Sorry to all concerned, but I never bother clicking your link these days. Probably best to write a synopsis.

Is why I keep gravitating back to the BBC.  They may be biased, sloppy and keep re-designing their site for a fondleslab audience, but at least there aren't any shitverts.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: ian on 24 November, 2021, 07:47:59 pm
To be fair to adverts, without them we'd have to pay for stuff or sell our souls. OK, you get to sell your soul and get adverts, but you'll feel better in your post-partum consumer bliss. Generally, the rule holds that you get what you don't pay for.

I vote for video explanations for things that don't need video explanations though, remember back in the day when bandwidth was limited and people wrote things and saved the video for smut, which is rightful.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: hubner on 24 November, 2021, 08:46:58 pm
I vote for YouTube adverts.  As a point of principle, I won't buy a product for which I am forced to watch an ad.

My ad blocker stops them. AdBlock Plus on Firefox.

I use U Block Origin which seem to block all adverts, including on Youtube.

I Don't Care About Cookies to stop the cookie popups.

CookieMaster to allow cookies site by site.

Turning off Javascript also seems to block a lot of adverts, use No Script to allow the ones you want to run.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: grams on 24 November, 2021, 08:50:12 pm
I pay for Youtube Premium, because I'm a weirdo.

To be fair to adverts, without them we'd have to pay for stuff or sell our souls. OK, you get to sell your soul and get adverts, but you'll feel better in your post-partum consumer bliss. Generally, the rule holds that you get what you don't pay for.

What gets me is the local newspaper sites have all decided to have an advert between every paragraph. And a sidebar full of ads. And random paragraphs that look like the article but are also ads. And popovers and autoplays. And scrolljacking and interstitials.

Presumably they've all done the experimentation and found that making their articles literally unreadable is the option that brings in the most revenue. It's almost as if it's all bots and fraud, because no one can read the bloody things.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 24 November, 2021, 08:51:58 pm
^This
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: hubner on 24 November, 2021, 08:53:22 pm
Grey text.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 November, 2021, 08:57:28 pm
It's the autoplays that annoy me most on local news sites. If I want a video, I'll watch a video. I'm on your local newspaper site because I want to read the news, not watch it. And then the site is trying to download so much video that it crashes.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 November, 2021, 08:58:24 pm
People asking stupid questions in forums?
I was expecting the first follow-up to be "rogerzilla", so that was quite kind  ;D
Nah, he's only second after that C3PO chap.  :P
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: hubner on 24 November, 2021, 09:06:17 pm
And endless scroll.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: ian on 24 November, 2021, 09:10:34 pm
I pay for Youtube Premium, because I'm a weirdo.

To be fair to adverts, without them we'd have to pay for stuff or sell our souls. OK, you get to sell your soul and get adverts, but you'll feel better in your post-partum consumer bliss. Generally, the rule holds that you get what you don't pay for.

What gets me is the local newspaper sites have all decided to have an advert between every paragraph. And a sidebar full of ads. And random paragraphs that look like the article but are also ads. And popovers and autoplays. And scrolljacking and interstitials.

Presumably they've all done the experimentation and found that making their articles literally unreadable is the option that brings in the most revenue. It's almost as if it's all bots and fraud, because no one can read the bloody things.

I find these pages usually cause Safari to burp up 'a this page is using bigly resources', which briefly annoyed me, then I realised it's probably doing me a favour.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 24 November, 2021, 09:13:08 pm
If I can add a few others in the top five:

- The background music on drone videos.  It is universally terrible.
- Spam e-mail from the GOP.
- The greedy thieves who set up CDDB and FreeDB, then sold everyone else's work and got mega-rich.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 November, 2021, 09:47:32 pm
Actually, it's this: Nigel fucking fuckface "Fame and Fortune" "isn't everything going up and going up fast" fucking arsehole lying fucker Farage.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Feanor on 24 November, 2021, 09:57:38 pm
I pay for Youtube Premium, because I'm a weirdo.

I don't find the ads on Youtube too bad in general; on the PC at least you can skip ads after a few seconds.
And as has been said, free content has to be paid for somehow.

But some of the videos themselves...
My God.

Take 20 mins to say what could be said in 2.
They could *really* do with some serious editing.
Oh, and how-to videos where the actual critical parts of the work is out of camera shot, out of focus, observed from a useless angle or obscured by hands etc.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 24 November, 2021, 10:06:37 pm
NAT, which is evil.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 24 November, 2021, 10:11:08 pm
But some of the videos themselves...
My God.

Take 20 mins to say what could be said in 2.
They could *really* do with some serious editing.
Oh, and how-to videos where the actual critical parts of the work is out of camera shot, out of focus, observed from a useless angle or obscured by hands etc.

I don't mind this sort of thing when I'm watching a video for entertainment, as long as the production values aren't too awful (I have a low tolerance for bad sound).

But when "How to access the admin interface on a Route-o-Matic 5000" is a 10 minute potatovision video rather than a 500 word article with 4 screenshots, I do tend to lose my patience.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 24 November, 2021, 10:46:37 pm
Yes that. Most instruction videos are too bloody long. I'm not watching this because I like the sound of your voice, I just want to fix something and move on.
Anything where they want you to watch a video that you could glean the same information by reading in a third of the time.

What's potatovision?
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 24 November, 2021, 10:58:28 pm
What's potatovision?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/recorded-with-a-potato
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Karla on 24 November, 2021, 11:50:09 pm
Most instructional videos shouldn't be videos at all, the creators just want to use YouTube, and don't know how to write. 

Bring back text.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 November, 2021, 12:14:42 am
I pay for Youtube Premium, because I'm a weirdo.

To be fair to adverts, without them we'd have to pay for stuff or sell our souls. OK, you get to sell your soul and get adverts, but you'll feel better in your post-partum consumer bliss. Generally, the rule holds that you get what you don't pay for.

What gets me is the local newspaper sites have all decided to have an advert between every paragraph. And a sidebar full of ads. And random paragraphs that look like the article but are also ads. And popovers and autoplays. And scrolljacking and interstitials.

Presumably they've all done the experimentation and found that making their articles literally unreadable is the option that brings in the most revenue. It's almost as if it's all bots and fraud, because no one can read the bloody things.

This ^^^^.  With the bonus of finally blanking the page altogether because the sheer volume of shitvertising overwhelms the tiny branez of browsers on fondleslabs.  Dear developers: test your fucking site on dimwitted mobile devices as well as mega-power Babbage-Engines.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 25 November, 2021, 12:18:32 am
I assume the typical use-case for local newspaper websites (as distinct from the likes of the BBC or the grauniad[1], where you're likely to land on the home page and navigate to interesting-looking articles) is following a link your friend has posted on social media, where you'll tolerate a higher level of shittery in order to find out what said friend is referring to.


[1] But not The Bile Duct, which seems to be playing the local newspaper game nationally.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 25 November, 2021, 07:58:19 am
The Newsquest sites had a paywall for a while but it seems to have gone.  I guess readership fell to single digits.  The content is usually wafer-thin (the Swindon Advertiser is now based in Oxford) so I just read it for the comments, which are occasionally hilarious
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 November, 2021, 08:27:20 am
Any advert with NF in it.

Gambling

People who say 'Do your research', which actually means "I am an uneducated moron who has watched conspiracy theory videos on Youtube and think that I belong to a secret group of people who know about the lizard people.".
(This includes the idiots who spread stupid conspiracies via whatsapp etc. People have died because of this idiocy.)
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Polar Bear on 25 November, 2021, 09:18:10 am
Hmmm, I have been known to reply to posts suggesting as such that they do as they suggest others do: some research.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: ian on 25 November, 2021, 10:02:03 am
Those local 'news' platforms are pretty much advertising, they just rebrand something some poorly paid intern has lifted from social media or inbox, do a bit of SEO and re-media, and wait for the clicks because clicks make revenue.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Pingu on 25 November, 2021, 10:42:54 am
What's potatovision?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/recorded-with-a-potato

I thought it was going to be some sort of mash-up.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 November, 2021, 11:07:16 am
Hmmm, I have been known to reply to posts suggesting as such that they do as they suggest others do: some research.

There was one ignorant peasant, who probably thought of himself as a sparklingly witty conservative agent provocateur but whom everyone else considered to be a tedious far-right troll, who used regularly to pop up on Another Angry Voice's Farcebok page and, when challenged to provide evidence for his mostly ludicrous claims, told people to JFGI.  Then he failed to follow his own advice and blithely informed us that the Daily Heil was “owned by the Mirror”.

We didn’t let him forget that one in a hurry :demon:
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 25 November, 2021, 12:22:15 pm
What's potatovision?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/recorded-with-a-potato

I thought it was going to be some sort of mash-up.
I thought it would be a highly ineffectual variation on reflectoporn.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: spesh on 25 November, 2021, 02:09:04 pm
I pay for Youtube Premium, because I'm a weirdo.

To be fair to adverts, without them we'd have to pay for stuff or sell our souls. OK, you get to sell your soul and get adverts, but you'll feel better in your post-partum consumer bliss. Generally, the rule holds that you get what you don't pay for.

What gets me is the local newspaper sites have all decided to have an advert between every paragraph. And a sidebar full of ads. And random paragraphs that look like the article but are also ads. And popovers and autoplays. And scrolljacking and interstitials.

Presumably they've all done the experimentation and found that making their articles literally unreadable is the option that brings in the most revenue. It's almost as if it's all bots and fraud, because no one can read the bloody things.

This ^^^^.  With the bonus of finally blanking the page altogether because the sheer volume of shitvertising overwhelms the tiny branez of browsers on fondleslabs.  Dear developers: test your fucking site on dimwitted mobile devices as well as mega-power Babbage-Engines.

Further to the above, web developing bonobos* should also note: don't assume that everyone's got the same zillion bits/second fibre optic-to-the-house/company fat pipe connection as you.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 25 November, 2021, 04:22:28 pm
Further to the above, web developing bonobos* should also note: don't assume that everyone's got the same zillion bits/second fibre optic-to-the-house/company fat pipe connection as you.

Steady on, next thing you'll be telling them that not everyone is reading on a high-end Apple display in an appropriately lit room...
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Pingu on 25 November, 2021, 05:05:33 pm
Menus where the browser has to be full screen to see all the menu items.
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Post by: T42 on 25 November, 2021, 05:08:07 pm
...and on a tablet the menu items are 2mm high and spaced at three per average fingertip.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: spesh on 25 November, 2021, 05:09:06 pm
Further to the above, web developing bonobos* should also note: don't assume that everyone's got the same zillion bits/second fibre optic-to-the-house/company fat pipe connection as you.

Steady on, next thing you'll be telling them that not everyone is reading on a high-end Apple display in an appropriately lit room...

Widescreen, of course.  ;D
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Feanor on 25 November, 2021, 05:55:59 pm
Websites that are un-responsive the other way are just as bad.
Where they assume everyone is using a tiny phone screen.

Giant buttons and text, menus off the side, need for lots of scrolling when I have a proper big screen with plenty real-estate to display it on one screen.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Lightning Phil on 25 November, 2021, 06:20:22 pm
That 99% of email is spam because it’s so easy and low cost to do it.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Feanor on 25 November, 2021, 06:25:21 pm
I think I've got spam mostly under control.
The remaining spam I have is semi-legit, in that it comes from vendors I actually use.

But a couple of days ago I did add a new Rule on the mailserver which sends anything containing 'Black Friday' in the subject directly to the Trash folder.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Polar Bear on 25 November, 2021, 07:10:03 pm
Cookie popups.  It's not beyond the wit of man to make this a quick and simple intervention.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: TheLurker on 25 November, 2021, 07:15:14 pm
Quote from: Polar Bear
Cookie popups.  It's not beyond the wit of man to make this a quick and simple intervention.
But then *everyone* would switch them off and *they* don't want that.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 25 November, 2021, 07:23:31 pm
Cookie popups are an excellent example of an unintended consequence of bad law.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 25 November, 2021, 07:39:21 pm
The decline and fall of Usenet, a concept that assumed people on the Internet were intelligent and well-meaning.  Oops.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Feanor on 25 November, 2021, 07:43:28 pm
The decline and fall of Usenet, a concept that assumed people on the Internet were intelligent and well-meaning.  Oops.

No means to monetise.
Nowhere for videos of dancing pigs.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 November, 2021, 08:54:21 pm
There'd be a thriving trade in ASCII cat pictures if it wasn’t for those meddling kids Tim Berners-Lee!
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: T42 on 26 November, 2021, 12:05:34 pm
There'd be a thriving trade in ASCII cat pictures if it wasn’t for those meddling kids Tim Berners-Lee!

Don't Cry For Me Argentina was pretty good, though, if you like that sort of thing.

Whaddaya mean, it was someone else?
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: drossall on 26 November, 2021, 01:17:00 pm
Too many ways for the same people to communicate.

For a brief, halcyon period, everything went to email. Keeping up with communication with important contacts, at home or at work, meant keeping up with your email. If there was too much, you applied sorting rules and so on.

Now I get the same conversation happening partly on email, partly in WhatsApp, on Teams at work, sometimes in SMS (OK not strictly the Internet) and maybe in FB Messenger as well. And I've been forced onto all those systems, sometimes specifically against my better judgment, because I need to communicate.

I want someone to invent something that brings all messaging together into a single client. Preferably called Pegasus Mail or something.

All those and I'll add Cookies

Try living without those. By design, a Web site has the memory of a goldfish (OK that's giving goldfish a bad press, I know). But no sign-ins, no settings, your shopping basket is empty on every new page you load, all because the site can't remember you, what you were doing, or anything about you. Cookies are like most facets of modern life: they open up new possibilities that no-one wants to lose but, over-used or used in the wrong way, they can cause major problems.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 26 November, 2021, 01:40:23 pm
Too many ways for the same people to communicate.

For a brief, halcyon period, everything went to email. Keeping up with communication with important contacts, at home or at work, meant keeping up with your email. If there was too much, you applied sorting rules and so on.

Now I get the same conversation happening partly on email, partly in WhatsApp, on Teams at work, sometimes in SMS (OK not strictly the Internet) and maybe in FB Messenger as well. And I've been forced onto all those systems, sometimes specifically against my better judgment, because I need to communicate.

I want someone to invent something that brings all messaging together into a single client. Preferably called Pegasus Mail or something.

I think the rot really set in around the time AIM was invented.

Mail and news (and later, RSS) all integrate pretty well in an appropriate client, as they have the same here-are-some-messages-for-you-to-read paradigm.  This is why web forums are bad, forcing you to read messages on someone's website rather than in your message-reading tool of choice.

All the IRC-like things also integrate pretty well in a sufficiently capable client.  Trillian and Pidgin dug us out of the fragmentation caused by everyone re-inventing ICQ.

SMS gets a pass for being a non-internet thing, but the various attempts to re-invent SMS as either an IRC-like-thing (WhatsApp, Signal, etc) or a blogging platform (Twitter) leave you with this awkward middle ground.  Slack brought IRC kicking and screaming into the Century of the Fruitbat, and then did the usual social media bastards thing of ditching the interoperability.  Simialrly, Discord's pretty good, even if nobody really knows what it's trying to be.

And then there's the corporate stuff, where if it wasn't invented by Microsoft, it has to be a second-rate proprietary product from some company you've never heard of.

The pandemic stirred it up by making people who weren't used to collaborating via computers decide that video conferencing was the best was to collaborate via computers.  Zoom had the right product at the right time.  Teams was made by Microsoft (see above).  Some people had Facetime available because iPads are the least-pain way of letting grandparents loose on the internet.  And everyone else seems to use Whataspp, which is awful at video, but Facebook has trained people to expect minimum viable usability.

It's a mess, and there's no coming back from it.  Maybe things will swing away from monolithic walled-garden providers for a bit as Facebook dies, but the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.  More likely, I see SMTP-based email (surely the last truly open standard) dying a death of a thousand over-enthusiastic spam filters - eventually, if you want to message someone on google mail, you'll need a google mail account.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: ian on 26 November, 2021, 04:02:06 pm
P0rn. Which is now gurning tattooed people tediously grunting each other into sweaty sticky submission. The good old days of surreptitious VHS tapes featuring scenes of elegantly undressed ladies who get banged by the tradesmen who not only turn up on time but fix the washer when they'd done. Or back before pictures when we had to rely on stimulating words and I could reasonably write thundering tumescence.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 26 November, 2021, 04:15:00 pm
That software companies get Ideas about ways to sell their product that involve neither shrink-wrapped boxes nor spiral-bound manuals.  This leads, inevitably, to Modern Life is Rubbish scenarios.  As neatly illustrated by the ViewRanger Got Borged And Now My Maps Don't Work (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=119393.0) thread.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: T42 on 26 November, 2021, 04:44:55 pm
The worldwide platform it has given to thundering anti-vaxx arseholes who swallowed Andrew Wakefield's fraud hook, line and sinker.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: drossall on 26 November, 2021, 05:42:36 pm
I think the rot really set in around the time AIM was invented.
The other side of the rot was that everyone knew that email was asynchronous. I could send you an email and you would deal with it when you had time, in your time zone. The problem with any kind of instant messaging is the word instant. I'm out on my bike. You ain't gonna get instant.

And Zwift has a form of IM built into it. What? :hand:
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Kim on 26 November, 2021, 05:59:47 pm
I think the rot really set in around the time AIM was invented.
The other side of the rot was that everyone knew that email was asynchronous. I could send you an email and you would deal with it when you had time, in your time zone. The problem with any kind of instant messaging is the word instant. I'm out on my bike. You ain't gonna get instant.

The rot set in *there* when everyone started carrying their computer around in their pocket, with an always-on wireless internet connection.  Up to the mid-noughties it was well understood that you might be disconnected or otherwise idle.

Telephones have the same problem:  Watch film or television from the 80s or earlier, and be astounded by the causal attitude that people have towards dropping whatever they're in the middle of and sprinting to answer the telephone before the caller hangs up.  These days people expect you to answer within a few seconds, even if they're calling a landline number.  Or ringing a doorbell.
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: rogerzilla on 26 November, 2021, 08:28:19 pm
And Zwift has a form of IM built into it. What? :hand:
That's for smack talk, obvs.

"What you riding today, drossall?"
"Ur mum"
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: BrianI on 26 November, 2021, 08:55:53 pm
Conspiracy theorists, peddling their conspiracy theories.

it's quite sad, seeing someone I though of as a sensible chap, now getting deep into the "Plandemic" conspiracy theory rabbit hole.  Now he's posting stuff along the lines of "don't say we didn't warn you", then a link to covid consipracy stuff...   :-\
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 November, 2021, 11:48:07 am
I want someone to invent something that brings all messaging together into a single client. Preferably called Pegasus Mail or something.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xde1y8
Title: Re: What's the single worst thing about the Internet?
Post by: pcolbeck on 30 November, 2021, 02:28:16 pm
I want someone to invent something that brings all messaging together into a single client. Preferably called Pegasus Mail or something.

There will be an Emacs mode for that.