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Jaded

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Raw sewage
« on: 30 October, 2021, 12:55:35 pm »
Why are leaks measured in hours, and not some kind of volume?

Is it a way of hiding how much pooh is flowing under the bridge?
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LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #1 on: 30 October, 2021, 01:08:06 pm »
Often the sewage treatment plant bypasses are controlled by fixed weirs, rather than valves, and the flow rate over weirs is nonlinear. Possibly nobody is measuring/ calculating/ monitoring flow volume, just when the bypass operates.
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Jaded

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #2 on: 30 October, 2021, 01:12:38 pm »
Ah, thanks, that makes sense.
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #3 on: 30 October, 2021, 01:38:46 pm »
I don't know the answer to that, but I do notice that the Conservatives have gone up two points in the polls, so obviously having a dump in a river worked out well for them

Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #4 on: 30 October, 2021, 03:30:23 pm »
Kiloturds or decajohnnies would be good measures.

You can calculate flow over a weir if you know the height of water and the discharge coefficient, which you can look up, but I guess they CBA.

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #5 on: 30 October, 2021, 03:44:09 pm »
The whole situation proves that the Tories can literally shit all over the country and people with vote for them.

Better than risking those nasty Corbyn turds I guess.
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #6 on: 30 October, 2021, 04:05:36 pm »
And I was thinking it was Johnson's one moment of honesty.
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Jaded

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #7 on: 30 October, 2021, 04:09:25 pm »
Driving up the M6 the other day, there were several foul stenches of poo.
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #8 on: 30 October, 2021, 04:28:47 pm »
There was one in our kitchen before lunch, but it was just MrsT reheating yesterday's cauliflower cheese.
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Kim

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #9 on: 30 October, 2021, 08:05:27 pm »
Driving up the M6 the other day, there were several foul stenches of poo.

That was probably Birmingham.

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #10 on: 30 October, 2021, 08:14:06 pm »
Why are leaks measured in hours, and not some kind of volume?

Is it a way of hiding how much pooh is flowing under the bridge?

Probably down to crap reporting.

Kim

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #11 on: 30 October, 2021, 08:15:12 pm »
Stands to reason that if you're unwilling or unable to invest in treating the sewage, you're unlikely to want to invest much in measuring it.

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #12 on: 30 October, 2021, 09:38:15 pm »
Driving up the M6 the other day, there were several foul stenches of poo.

That was probably Birmingham.

I was thinking Stoke, but Kim beat me to it.
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #13 on: 30 October, 2021, 10:44:01 pm »
I went out for a meal with friends last night.  We were very careful to ask where the mussels came from.  Menai Straits, which we think is OK.  At least Mathias hasn't been ill yet.
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Jaded

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #14 on: 30 October, 2021, 11:12:32 pm »
Right now, I’d not eat shellfish from anywhere near the UK.
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #15 on: 30 October, 2021, 11:15:59 pm »
What do you mean by 'near'?

Jaded

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #16 on: 30 October, 2021, 11:20:55 pm »
What do you mean by 'near'?
200km…
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #17 on: 30 October, 2021, 11:47:54 pm »
Right now, I’d not eat shellfish from anywhere near the UK.


Which is why I had lamb ragu & pasta.   I've 2 packs of mussels in the fridge,  farmed in Scotland I think.  Hopefully safe enough.
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #18 on: 31 October, 2021, 06:51:52 am »
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #19 on: 31 October, 2021, 12:50:29 pm »
Right now, I’d not eat shellfish from anywhere near the UK.

There is quite a lot grown near me. Very regular water testing by independent body.
No large population centres within 200miles.
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #20 on: 31 October, 2021, 12:59:15 pm »
AIUI EU directives on shellfish production have not been met for some time. Its all to do with whether shellfish have to be flushed with clean water for 48hrs, which of course adds a cost. Most English waters are not clean enough to avoid this. Consequently, most supermarkets will not stock English produce (presumably because of the added expense) and so import shellfish from Scotland and the EU.  English shellfish is largely exported.

I don't eat raw shellfish ever. Did it once (an oyster in Rick Stein's Seafood Restaurant) and was very ill for several days.

Jaded

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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #21 on: 31 October, 2021, 01:23:25 pm »
Right now, I’d not eat shellfish from anywhere near the UK.

There is quite a lot grown near me. Very regular water testing by independent body.
No large population centres within 200miles.

Yes, that's probably OK!
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Re: Raw sewage
« Reply #22 on: 31 October, 2021, 05:45:01 pm »
Right now, I’d not eat shellfish from anywhere near the UK.

There is quite a lot grown near me. Very regular water testing by independent body.
No large population centres within 200miles.

Yes, that's probably OK!

Main problem up here is algae growth. If it is above a set level, they declare the area 'not suitable for harvesting'. We had one this summer (the blame was pointed at agricultural runoff, but almost nobody uses any fertilizer around here). Restaurants stopped stocking mussels for a few weeks.
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