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General Category => Rides and Touring => Topic started by: Adam on 21 April, 2011, 05:58:16 pm

Title: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 21 April, 2011, 05:58:16 pm
Time for another adventure in Kent (also posted on CC).

Start from Hyde Park Corner at 8 am, then basically using the traditional FNRttC Whitstable route with a late breakfast at Andy's Snacks in Rochester, then turning south before Faversham and heading inland for a late pub lunch and then up and down a bit to Dover. We might make a detour via the Battle of Britain memorial at Chapel-le-Ferne.

Around 95 miles, possibly a bit more, although I won't be doing this too fast, bearing in mind I'll have done over 200 miles the previous weekend.  And I won't be cycling back either, as I intend hopping onto the HS1 back to St Pancras.  Other trains are available to Charing Cross.

Usual rules, no-one left behind.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 April, 2011, 11:51:35 am
I will be running off to Denmark with Peli. Mrs. Wow and Woolly will also be in attendance.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: steveindenmark on 22 April, 2011, 10:36:47 pm
I will be running off to Denmark with Peli. Mrs. Wow and Woolly will also be in attendance.

Make sure you bring your suncream as it is very hot and sunny here at the moment.

Steve
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 25 April, 2011, 08:14:33 am
The likely route we'll take is shown here (http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=234526).  95 miles and only 3,300 ft of climbing.  I've put in some detours to take in some sights and also avoid some very nasty hills.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 25 April, 2011, 05:54:14 pm
Interesting to see that in the interests of aesthetics, you've opted for the Chilham manouvere - A good call.  :thumbsup:

Had you anything in mind as a second grub stop?


Also... tell me if I am wrong, it looks to me that there are no advance discounts on HS1.
Is that correct?
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 25 April, 2011, 07:37:29 pm
Yes, two diversions - Chilham for the architecture and Capel-le-Ferne for the Battle of Britain memorial (seeing as we missed the Spitfires on our last visit).

For a late lunch, it's going to be the Sondes Arms again in Oversland/Selling, but I will double check they don't have another wedding.  I doubt they can beat the interesting mix from our last visit.

Re the HS1, sadly, they don't seem to get an advance discount, so with a railcard, it's £22.60.  Group Save would be available to buy at the station, so I think I'll take pot luck at Dover, to see if enough people want to get back to St Pancras so we can get a reduction off that amount.  
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 25 April, 2011, 07:47:59 pm
Re the HS1, sadly, they don't seem to get an advance discount, so with a railcard, it's £22.60.  Group Save would be available to buy at the station, so I think I'll take pot luck at Dover, to see if enough people want to get back to St Pancras so we can get a reduction off that amount.  

That all sounds like it imminently makes sense...
However... are you saying that the stop in Selling works?
Or is it too close to the one in Rochester - and 10 / 15 miles further down the road might be better?

Just sayin' like...

J
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 26 April, 2011, 07:24:08 am
Possibly - it's 30 miles on from Rochester so we'll see how people feel.  I'll check out availability further along, as suggested elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Tourist Tony on 27 April, 2011, 07:22:23 am
Capel, dear boy, not Chapel. Tis a lovely place, that one.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 27 April, 2011, 09:27:26 am
Ta.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: redflightuk on 27 April, 2011, 02:31:13 pm

Re the HS1, sadly, they don't seem to get an advance discount, so with a railcard, it's £22.60.  Group Save would be available to buy at the station, so I think I'll take pot luck at Dover, to see if enough people want to get back to St Pancras so we can get a reduction off that amount.  
I'll be going back to St P  Adam.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 11 May, 2011, 01:33:12 pm
It looks like there'll be groups heading for Bromley South & St Pancras on the trains back, so Group Save should work.

Having finalised things, the revised route is shown here (http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=243072).  Still using the traditional FNRttC route so that means Shooters Hill, then a late 2nd breakfast around 10.45 in Rochester, before heading towards Faversham.

The late lunch will be at the Rose and Crown (http://www.roseandcrownperrywood.co.uk/index.htm) in between Selling and Shottenden, then rolling 2 miles down the hill to have an ice cream* in the stunningly picturesque village of Chilham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilham).

Then a little climb and then a descent to reach a lovely 10 mile stretch of quiet back road where you only have to worry about going straight over 1 junction and not worry about any other turns left or right, before heading past the Battle of Britain museum (http://www.kbobm.org/) located on the old wartime airfield of Hawkinge (the rest is now houses), then across up the hill at Capel le Ferne to have a look at the Battle of Britain Memorial (http://www.spifirememorial.org.uk/spifire/capel.htm) overlooking the sea, before heading downhill to Dover.



* I'm assuming of course that it will be hot.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Andrij on 11 May, 2011, 02:05:00 pm
*raises hand for ride and HS1 back to London*
 
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 11 May, 2011, 03:16:55 pm
 :thumbsup:

I think that makes it 14.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Pippa on 12 May, 2011, 08:52:03 am
This group of 14 - is it a racing snake group, or might they be prepared to slow it down a bit?

Would an addition to the group as you pass through Greenwich be feasible?
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Andrij on 12 May, 2011, 09:28:33 am
This group of 14 - is it a racing snake group, or might they be prepared to slow it down a bit?


ROTFLMAO!

You must have missed this post:  ;)
*raises hand for ride and HS1 back to London*
 

With no extra effort, I bet I can ensure this doesn't turn into a race to Dover.  :P
 
 
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 12 May, 2011, 12:02:24 pm
This group of 14 - is it a racing snake group, or might they be prepared to slow it down a bit?

Would an addition to the group as you pass through Greenwich be feasible?

You did my last Kent ride, back in August (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=34420.msg645135#msg645135).  Was that fast???
No.  Only once did we get above 15 mph on the flat.  I'm a reformed character (possibly).

So don't worry about the pace.  08.40 next to Cutty Sark be OK for you?
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Pippa on 12 May, 2011, 03:04:53 pm
With no extra effort, I bet I can ensure this doesn't turn into a race to Dover.  :P

I'll race you...to be last to Dover  :thumbsup:

@Adam - ah yes good point I had forgotten about that ride - sorry  :-[ 0840 is good for me. I will try and spot the peloton coming through Greenwich and attempt to seamlessly join in so that you don't have to stop, hopefully.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: ianrauk on 12 May, 2011, 04:02:53 pm
I'll also be at Greenwich for 8.40
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 12 May, 2011, 08:21:47 pm
And me  :).
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 12 May, 2011, 08:45:00 pm
Me
Abs
Andrij (in sandals)
CharlieB
Clive ?
DavyWalnuts
GBS ?
Gerwinium (Greenwich late entrant)
Gursh
Ian (Greenwich late entrant)
iZap
John the Red
Jurek (Rochester even later entrant)
LouiseL
Luke the Jedi Master
Martin Teef
MartinT
Martok
Matt the paper folder
Pippa (Rochester even later entrant)
Wanda2010


Edited for later amendments
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: gerwinium on 12 May, 2011, 09:25:57 pm
Could I maybe join in at Greenwich as well? :)
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Pippa on 12 May, 2011, 09:53:51 pm
Pippa (Greenwich Rochester even later entrant)

Make that a Rochester entrant.....

For reasons that I won't go into, I will be up super early that day, so rather than sitting around twiddling my thumbs, I will pootle down to Rochester and will have a leisurely brekkie and pick up the ride from there. I believe Jurek will join me.

Adam - where are you planning on eating your second brekkie in Rochester so I know where to find you?
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 12 May, 2011, 09:56:01 pm
I believe Jurek will join me.

He will.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 12 May, 2011, 10:14:57 pm

Adam - where are you planning on eating your second brekkie in Rochester so I know where to find you?

Where else but the cyclist's preferred eating establishment, complete with bike parking and banana inspectors:-

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/Dover/Dover/DSCF0005.jpg)

(Andy's Snacks)
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 12 May, 2011, 10:16:06 pm

Adam - where are you planning on eating your second brekkie in Rochester so I know where to find you?

Where else but the cyclist's preferred eating establishment, complete with bike parking and banana inspectors:-

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/Dover/Dover/DSCF0005.jpg)

(Andy's Snacks)

Tops!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 12 May, 2011, 10:23:26 pm
Could I maybe join in at Greenwich as well? :)

No problem - hang about on the corner, on the slip road leading down to the Cutty Sark, around 08.40, as we'll be going round the block.  As Ian will be there, you can't miss him.  Lots of tattoos.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: gerwinium on 12 May, 2011, 10:36:32 pm
Could I maybe join in at Greenwich as well? :)

No problem - hang about on the corner, on the slip road leading down to the Cutty Sark, around 08.40, as we'll be going round the block.  As Ian will be there, you can't miss him.  Lots of tattoos.

Okay, I'll try to find the right cyclist with tattoos. :)
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 12 May, 2011, 10:41:20 pm
Okay, I'll try to find the right cyclist with tattoos. :)

The surgically clean bike is more likely to catch your attention first  :P.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: gerwinium on 12 May, 2011, 10:55:37 pm

The surgically clean bike is more likely to catch your attention first  :P.

I'll bring a raccoon in order to be recognisable.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Tim Hall on 12 May, 2011, 11:45:57 pm
Here's a picture of Ian cleaning his bike.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_4-9WXGlMFks/SmNfMtDxUmI/AAAAAAAAAa0/fgUk3g9n08A/s640/IMGP0804_edited-1.jpg)

HTH.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: gerwinium on 12 May, 2011, 11:49:52 pm
Here's a picture of Ian cleaning his bike.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_4-9WXGlMFks/SmNfMtDxUmI/AAAAAAAAAa0/fgUk3g9n08A/s640/IMGP0804_edited-1.jpg)

HTH.

Thanks, I think that should be recognisable, even in Greenwich  ;D
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: jane on 24 May, 2011, 06:39:15 pm
Is it too late to join this ride? I see it is not meant to be too fast. But if it is, I can always peel off drop off the back and make my own way to Dover.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 24 May, 2011, 06:40:55 pm
Is it too late to join this ride? I see it is not meant to be too fast. But if it is, I can always peel off drop off the back and make my own way to Dover.

I'll bet it's not (too late) :)

And your company would be most welcome.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 24 May, 2011, 06:57:51 pm
He's right you know, it's never too late.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Hary on 24 May, 2011, 08:12:57 pm
I will be there at 8am. Hary
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: jane on 27 May, 2011, 06:10:23 pm
Doesn't look like I'll make it after all folks. Have a good one.
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 27 May, 2011, 06:17:29 pm
 :'(
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Jurek on 28 May, 2011, 10:41:03 pm
Just back indoors - well, ok I swapped bikes and went all spendy in Sainsbury's first.

Thanks, Adam for taking the trouble to recce what is a very good route.

I think its fair to say there was a fair bit of graft in the draught going on today - especially on the eeeeeepp! descent into Folkestone.

Anyone heard from Abs & Martok?

Xspecial thanks to LouiseL for the loan of your Hope. That helped to take me from a dark place to a lighter one.

Cheers everyone else for your unfailingly good company.

J
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: Adam on 29 May, 2011, 09:13:31 am
Today seems even windier, so we were lucky.  Also, a lot of the time we were shielded by the trees.

10 of us set off from Hyde Park Corner, although we picked up a few more along the way.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/2011%20rides/Long%20Ride%20to%20the%20Coast%2028%2005%202011/IMG_0253.jpg)


And now, by popular demand, here's Louise's breakfast:-

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/2011%20rides/Long%20Ride%20to%20the%20Coast%2028%2005%202011/IMG_0264.jpg)

She only managed about half of it!

I was very impressed with the pub, and how quickly they produced the food, so we ended up being quicker out of there, than at Andy's in Rochester.  

Chilham really is a very pretty hamlet, although no time for an ice cream.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/2011%20rides/Long%20Ride%20to%20the%20Coast%2028%2005%202011/IMG_0268.jpg)

I didn't however get a photo of what must be an ancient Kent tradition, of hanging your duvet out of an upstairs window.

I've just remembered an amusing incident, heading into Faversham.  After going past the new Sainsbury's, I was following behind a huge Jeep vehicle, which was in turn following a few other cyclists.  I noticed the driver pointing to the parallel cycle path (the one that goes over people's drives and stops at intersecting roads).  So I point down at the road.  She then points more firmly towards the cycle path, prompting me to point repeatedly down onto the road.  She then started to point to the cycle path again, but had to stop, as the cycle path had ended!  So I just merrily pointed down onto the road again with a big grin.

I would have liked more time to sit and reflect at the Battle of Britain memorial, but we had a High Speed train to catch.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/2011%20rides/Long%20Ride%20to%20the%20Coast%2028%2005%202011/IMG_0275.jpg)


Well done to everyone for participating.

The rest of the photos can be seen here (http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/2011%20rides/Long%20Ride%20to%20the%20Coast%2028%2005%202011/).
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: mcshroom on 29 May, 2011, 12:36:55 pm
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/FlyingDodo/2011%20rides/Long%20Ride%20to%20the%20Coast%2028%2005%202011/IMG_0253.jpg)

Looks like one of you was trying to ride without a bike!  ;D
Title: Re: The Long Ride to the Coast - London to Dover 28th May
Post by: gerwinium on 29 May, 2011, 03:19:51 pm
Thanks for the good ride, sorry I had to bail out early. I just managed to make the birthday party after a shower and change at home. Next time I'll do the rest too  ::-)