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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #850 on: 11 January, 2022, 10:53:42 am »
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #851 on: 11 January, 2022, 01:15:29 pm »
Yesterday in a meeting we couldn't work our how to pronounce Artefact.

Google pronunciation came up with aa-te-fact
this obviously resulted in much hilarity as I managed to between coughing fits produce an RP accent and a countering welsh version.

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #852 on: 11 January, 2022, 01:36:59 pm »
S'dentry. I always say said-en-tarry.

Am I wrong or is this man an idiot?
I’d like to know the answer because an ex laughed like a drain at me when I pronounced it sedENtary and I took her word for it. Sort of relieved to find I’m not alone (though we may both be wrong).

No idea. I've always pronounced it "sed N tree"

I pronounce it like that, but with the emphasis on the first syllable.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #853 on: 11 January, 2022, 05:59:41 pm »
S'dentry. I always say said-en-tarry.

Am I wrong or is this man an idiot?
I’d like to know the answer because an ex laughed like a drain at me when I pronounced it sedENtary and I took her word for it. Sort of relieved to find I’m not alone (though we may both be wrong).

No idea. I've always pronounced it "sed N tree"

I pronounce it like that, but with the emphasis on the first syllable.

+1  Something like "said-entry"

I have form for being wrong when it comes to pronouncing words though, as I've no idea which accent to use at any given moment.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #854 on: 12 January, 2022, 01:47:03 pm »
Sed EN tury

Obviously because the Scottish rhotic r forces an uh sound before it that iver rules the written vowel.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #855 on: 14 January, 2022, 06:18:34 pm »
After many years together Mrs P has just surprised me with her pronunciation of mnemonic.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #856 on: 14 January, 2022, 08:19:57 pm »
Google's Define has a kind merge of the 'seden-tree' and 'seden-tary' https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=define%3A+sedentry

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #857 on: 14 January, 2022, 08:49:38 pm »
I say seden-terry and I'm right. I've discovered a great thing, that if you insistently keep pronouncing something incorrectly, you can actually make people you are, in fact, correct. It's a diabolical power so use it wisely and often.

Also, if you are a bloke, when talking to another bloke, lower your register a little so your voice is a bit deeper, and the other man will be forced to counter you, and in the space of a brief conversation, you'll end sounding like it's a Barry White face-off. I have started doing this all the time, it's brilliant. May work less well for girls.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #858 on: 14 January, 2022, 09:14:31 pm »
Did Barry White save your life, ian?
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #859 on: 14 January, 2022, 11:42:15 pm »
After many years together Mrs P has just surprised me with her pronunciation of mnemonic.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #860 on: 14 January, 2022, 11:48:54 pm »
Also, if you are a bloke, when talking to another bloke, lower your register a little so your voice is a bit deeper, and the other man will be forced to counter you, and in the space of a brief conversation, you'll end sounding like it's a Barry White face-off.

Is this what happened to USAnian news anchors?

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #861 on: 14 January, 2022, 11:52:47 pm »
+1 for said entry

And Barry White did save my life and get me back with my ex-wife, so ner.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #862 on: 15 January, 2022, 06:40:14 am »
My chap and his company make devices for cabinet condition monitoring, which they say in English. Except they say mon-it-or-ing. I have told him it is mon-it-tring but as they all say it wrong there’s no point in changing.

His English and that of his colleagues is really good, but they use this word loads.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #863 on: 15 January, 2022, 08:38:09 am »
My chap and his company make devices for cabinet condition monitoring, which they say in English. Except they say mon-it-or-ing. I have told him it is mon-it-tring but as they all say it wrong there’s no point in changing.

His English and that of his colleagues is really good, but they use this word loads.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #864 on: 15 January, 2022, 09:39:17 am »
I have German cow-orker who pronounces 'analysis' as analyse - is.

Due to the nature of our work, this word occurs in almost every sentence!

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #865 on: 15 January, 2022, 07:12:55 pm »
My chap and his company make devices for cabinet condition monitoring, which they say in English. Except they say mon-it-or-ing. I have told him it is mon-it-tring but as they all say it wrong there’s no point in changing.

His English and that of his colleagues is really good, but they use this word loads.
Are they selling it to English speakers? If not, I really doubt anyone apart from you even notices. In fact mon-it-or-ing is probably more easily understood than a more "English" pronunciation. European Standard English!
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #866 on: 15 January, 2022, 08:54:26 pm »
They are often speaking to an American audience. I don’t actually know how an American would pronounce it. But they pronounce the (German) company name wrong anyway!
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #867 on: 15 January, 2022, 09:05:38 pm »
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #868 on: 16 January, 2022, 11:25:30 am »
The Oxford English Dictionay has :
/ˈsɛdəntəri/
like se-den-tary, said-den-tari, with emphasis on the first syllable.

But the sound file sounds to me like:
/ˈsɛdəntri/
like se-den-tree, said-den-tree, with emphasis on the first syllable.

Anyhow, the -ary ending often gets reduced to -ry in real life. Eg, voluntary is /ˈvɒlənt(ə)ri/,
elementary, arbitrary etc
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #869 on: 16 January, 2022, 03:04:46 pm »
My initial objection was less about tree/taery than s'd EN tree rather than SAID-en-tree
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #870 on: 16 January, 2022, 03:43:35 pm »
I say SED en TE rry...

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #871 on: 16 January, 2022, 04:12:37 pm »
I say SED en TE rry...

Ditto.  And I say SEC-ret-erry rather than sec-ret-ry.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #872 on: 16 January, 2022, 11:13:02 pm »
Which I pronounce se-CREET-ory...

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #873 on: 31 January, 2022, 08:08:54 pm »
A couple of weeks ago my dear wife and I found ourselves unable to enter our house because our keys failed to unlock the front door. A locksmith was called, who gained entry for us but said that the fault had occurred because the door had dropped and that was interfering with the deadlock mechanism, and caused our problem. His recommendation was a new front door. I have contacted two local companies and have been awaiting a reply.

One arrived just now. I mentioned it to her and said "I've had a response from Classic Doors about our enquiry. They want a photo of our existing front door."

She looked at me blankly. I tried again, talking about Classic Doors. Still a blank look.

I'm finding the conversation a bit frustrating that, despite our predicament of a week or so ago, and me telling her (as I though) exactly what I was talking about, she was still looking blank and not getting hold of the right end of the stick. I raise my voice and try again. "Surely you recall when we had to call a locksmith and he recommended us replacing our front door?"

"Oh, yes! I thought you were talking about bicycles!"

My dear wife is from the Derbyshire/Cheshire triangle and clearly hasn't appreciated yet, despite living here for 46 years, that in Essex "Doors" and "Dawes" are pronounced precisely the same.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #874 on: 31 January, 2022, 08:52:04 pm »
Wait a minute, something's wrong
My key won't unlock this door
I got a bad bad feelin'
That my baby don't live here no more!
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