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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #475 on: 19 July, 2018, 10:15:20 am »
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 An obligation for each team to field a sprinter, a young rider and a pure climber might also help.
That would be difficult to police because other than the young rider, identifying a person as a sprinter or climber is subjective.

it would simply be a matter of requiring each team to reach a certain level of green, white and polka-dot jersey points to qualify for the Tour, and to field the riders who got them in qualification.

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #476 on: 19 July, 2018, 10:24:00 am »
It would seem to be a good idea for Thomas to lead into the final time trial, and let that decide between him and Froome. But stage 20 is less than 20 miles, and very hilly.

So the option of Froome keeping a low profile, before gapping rivals, isn't there.

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #477 on: 19 July, 2018, 11:17:56 am »
Things missing from l'Alpe d'Huez today:

• R Urán
BEER

Yes, M le Maire* has banned sales of BEER.  One can only hope the Cloggies brought their own ;)

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #478 on: 19 July, 2018, 11:54:35 am »
The Cloggies have apparently brought their own police force. Maybe the racers will have a chance to race up this hillock for a change!

Urán is probably going for the Vuelta.

Nick H.

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #479 on: 19 July, 2018, 12:02:38 pm »
Sky's financial clout is irritating but I don't see why the other riders can't make alliances, with or without bungs, to defeat them. BITD the brown envelope was a big part of race tactics. Maybe it's disappeared because of radios...riders can't use their initiative.

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #480 on: 19 July, 2018, 12:16:14 pm »
Sky are capable of a pace which can eliminate some at the back of the field. Combining resources to ride faster than Sky means losing sprinters and domestiques who might expect to shine between the Alps and the Pyrenees.

As Sky aren't initiating the attacks, the argument becomes about Sky's strength in depth. A strategy based on deterrence means we don't get to see any real fireworks.

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #481 on: 19 July, 2018, 12:28:38 pm »
Maybe it's disappeared because of radios...riders can't use their initiative.

And yet, if they are to be believed, both Dumoulin and Thomas claimed to have attacked on instinct yesterday.

quixoticgeek

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #482 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:13:03 pm »

I keep seeing articles in the cycling press, and segments on the radio about how team sky are setting themselves up for a clash between their number 1 and their number 8. But, I think actually, there is no clash there. I think they are doing what they did with the Giro. They are targeting one stage to make such a big impact that it gives Froome an unassailable lead. Stage 17, the 65km mountain stage is their target, and the reason they have put G so far up the front, is because of the start of this stage. It's gonna be a grid start. So the top 20 in the GC start together on the grid, then there is a gap to the next 20 and so on. If you don't have 2 team mates in the top 10 of the GC, then your ride is going to be up there without support. Stick 2 up there, and you can work together. This is team sky's plan, and you can be certain that every single member of team sky's team will be on the road on that stage, one every km or so to hand out water and gels and etc... to fuel them to the end.

That's my theory anyway. I'm new to all this pro racing mlarky, so I could be talking utter bollocks. But I wanted to put it in writing to see how right I am in a weeks time.

Another prediction while I'm at it, the top 3 in Paris, will be the same 3 riders that we have now, but in a different order (baring a major tits up for one of the riders).

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #483 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:15:56 pm »
None for him, I suspect

Well someone called it well!

Unfortunately.

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Nick H.

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #484 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:21:48 pm »
Happy memories of charging down the Madeleine on a motorbike...pretty much the most fun you can have with your clothes on.

Samuel D

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #485 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:23:34 pm »
Impressive howling from Mühlberger’s disc brakes going into those hairpins. That was nice footage from the motorcycle chase.

Samuel D

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #486 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:32:04 pm »
Mühlberger just got a musette with a Coke that he immediately offered to a passing camera crewman, who accepted it. Next he offered ice from the cooling block his team had put in the musette. Guy has a sense of humour.

T42

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #487 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:36:16 pm »
Thought it was Alaphilippe.
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

T42

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #488 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:39:17 pm »
I reckon that Voeckler could have a future as a standup comedian.
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

Samuel D

Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #489 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:48:01 pm »
Thought it was Alaphilippe.

I only saw Mühlberger do it and follow up with the funny offer of ice. But according to Cyclingnews’s live feed, both of them offered their Cokes to the motorbikes.

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #490 on: 19 July, 2018, 01:55:54 pm »
I reckon that Voeckler could have a future as a standup comedian.

Doesn't he already have a part in an opéra de savon?
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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #491 on: 19 July, 2018, 02:28:08 pm »
Apart from the Tour?
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T42

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #492 on: 19 July, 2018, 02:37:48 pm »
Greipel.
Groenewegen.
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T42

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #493 on: 19 July, 2018, 02:44:04 pm »
Fanny's pissed off.
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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #494 on: 19 July, 2018, 02:52:57 pm »
Sagan to win Paris sprint  ;)

T42

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #495 on: 19 July, 2018, 02:55:26 pm »
Gaviria

Obviously, having a name beginning with G is bad strategy.
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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #496 on: 19 July, 2018, 03:11:01 pm »
Also Gallopin

Sagan to win Paris sprint  ;)

Though unless the next set of abandons is brought to you by the letter "D", Demare and Degenkolb are still around.
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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #497 on: 19 July, 2018, 03:54:07 pm »
Thomas 97 kph on downhill
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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #498 on: 19 July, 2018, 04:10:46 pm »
***  "Maybe his legs are just starting to fall off..."

WTF ???  :o
VELOMANCER

Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

quixoticgeek

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Re: Tour de France 2018
« Reply #499 on: 19 July, 2018, 04:32:42 pm »

That's a lot of booing going on on this climb, and I'm spotting a lot of big guys in hivi's that seem to be wrestling the crowd.

Watching it on Dutch Eurosport, the commentators are making no effort to hide their bias. One of them just shouted "Come on Steven!" in English. I'm assuming they are supporting Kruijswijk.

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