Post by: alwyn on 03 April, 2019, 09:10:30 pm
- We open for early entries on 30 August. Entry will be by ballot rather than first-come-first-served.
- Entry will be open for seven days.
- We will select 500 entries and offer those people a guaranteed place.
- Those lucky people will have 14 days to get their deposit to us. After that, you'll lose your place.
- You'll then have until 30 November 2020 to pay the balance.
- If you decide not to ride, you'll have until 31 March 2021 to cancel your place. You'll receive a refund of any entry you've paid, minus £50.
- London Edinburgh London 2017 and Windsor Chester Windsor 2019 volunteers
- Audax UK or Audax Ireland members who were members on 12 September 2018, and remain members on 1 January 2021
- Anyone who has completed a Les Randonneurs Mondiaux validated event in each of the calendar years 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020
- Anyone who brings a spouse or immediate adult family relative (parent, child, sibling) to volunteer, both at London and another control, for at least three full days.
Post by: ianrobo on 03 April, 2019, 09:13:10 pm
Post by: Kamoshika on 09 April, 2019, 11:54:06 am
Post by: alwyn on 11 April, 2019, 12:52:10 pm
Sorry, can I just confirm (I know it's there in type, but just wanted to make sure!) that as an Audax UK member who joined at the start of last year, as long as keep up my membership, I'm guaranteed a place for LEL2021? Thanks!
Yes. Make sure you renew promptly though; don't let your membership lapse at the end of the year.
Post by: dat on 11 April, 2019, 12:55:32 pm
Post by: mattc on 11 April, 2019, 02:08:16 pm
But I have faith in alwyn's forecasting, so I doubt this will happen ...
Post by: alwyn on 11 April, 2019, 08:36:08 pm
I suppose it's possible that there won't be enough spaces for all the people with "guaranteed" entries!
Indeed. It was possible in 2017 and 2013 too, but never came even close. And it's that history that is giving me confidence this time.
Post by: Frank9755 on 12 April, 2019, 08:33:37 am
Post by: mattc on 12 April, 2019, 08:39:47 am
I remember saying to people last year not to worry if they didn't do an audax last year as PBP has never sold out before!I bet you're popular!
Post by: alwyn on 12 April, 2019, 09:06:10 am
Post by: grams on 12 April, 2019, 09:45:26 am
Annoying as mine lapsed for a few months over the winter.
I can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?
Post by: alwyn on 12 April, 2019, 09:53:46 am
I can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?
I spoke with the membership secretary about this on Wednesday. She is minded to be relatively relaxed up until now, but rather stricter once she has messaged all members. However by 'relaxed' she meant a few weeks, not a few months.
Post by: The Family Cyclist on 12 April, 2019, 10:03:01 am
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 12 April, 2019, 10:23:04 am
IThat's a relief as I renewed on 7th Jan. I would have been disappointed if that had been interpreted as lapsed. From now on I will be sure to do it in December.I can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?
I spoke with the membership secretary about this on Wednesday. She is minded to be relatively relaxed up until now, but rather stricter once she has messaged all members. However by 'relaxed' she meant a few weeks, not a few months.
Post by: Redlight on 12 April, 2019, 01:11:23 pm
That's a relief as I renewed on 7th Jan. I would have been disappointed if that had been interpreted as lapsed. From now on I will be sure to do it in December.
Best thing is to set up a standing order. That way there's no risk of forgetting.
Post by: Ivan on 12 April, 2019, 01:36:50 pm
Post by: Ajax Bay on 12 April, 2019, 03:47:45 pm
I know Mille Pennines and LEL were RM (2017) and so was Graeme's West Highlands 1000 (2018) (and the other three 1000s too). Am I right that PBP is NOT RM and the only UK 2019 RMs are Andy's concurrent 1000/1200 to Fort William/Inverness?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 12 April, 2019, 05:16:24 pm
Post by: Andy Corless on 12 April, 2019, 06:36:32 pm
https://burnleyccevents.com/fort-william-1000-05-july-2019/
https://burnleyccevents.com/inverness-1200-05-july-2019/
Next year's LEJOG, at 1400 km is also intended to be LRM so it's a safe assumption that it will count towards the LEL "early entry" criteria.
https://burnleyccevents.com
Hope this is of help.
Andy Corless
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 12 April, 2019, 09:05:27 pm
Next year's LEJOG, at 1400 km is also intended to be LRM so it's a safe assumption that it will count towards the LEL "early entry" criteria.
Interesting...1400km 4 days and 20 hours, essentially 5 days, 280km per day
or 200km further than PBP with an extra 26 hours to do them in.
Not sure I can manage 1400km with the usual rate of ascent favoured by Mr Corless, but the route is drawn doesn't seem to stray gratuitously into hilly areas.
Post by: bhoot on 12 April, 2019, 09:09:21 pm
II can’t imagine it’s going to be enforced like this. Having a joining date before the cut off should surely be enough?
I spoke with the membership secretary about this on Wednesday. She is minded to be relatively relaxed up until now, but rather stricter once she has messaged all members. However by 'relaxed' she meant a few weeks, not a few months.
All those who were members on Sept 12th last year and who paid their 2019 subscription before the additional joining fee kicked in will be considered as "not lapsed" this year. So you can determine your eligibility by checking how much you paid. However for next year and for 2021 (now that you have all had notice) your new year's subscription must be paid before the old one expires (ie before Dec 31st) to keep your place on the list. Reminders will be sent nearer the time, and as Ivan pointed out one way to avoid the problem in 2021 will be to take out a 5 year subscription before the end of 2019.
Note - life members are eligible whether or not they have paid an Arrivee subscription.
Post by: CrinklyLion on 17 June, 2019, 06:18:49 pm
We haven't confirmed rider numbers or the entry fee yet, but they are highly likely to be similar to 2017.
I note this, and also that the figure of 2000 riders was floating around on the fb page. Is 2000 riders considered 'similar' to 2017?
Post by: alwyn on 17 June, 2019, 09:21:20 pm
We haven't confirmed rider numbers or the entry fee yet, but they are highly likely to be similar to 2017.
I note this, and also that the figure of 2000 riders was floating around on the fb page. Is 2000 riders considered 'similar' to 2017?
I've not mentioned '2000 riders' and nor has FB. We have no plans to increase the event to that size, though we have discussed how we might mitigate a surprisingly high DNS rate in 2017.
Post by: CrinklyLion on 17 June, 2019, 09:43:08 pm
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 17 June, 2019, 10:40:31 pm
Sorry... "2000 places" was the phrase.Aukweb reveals 831 finishers in 2017. I seem to recall talk of a 30% dnf rate. Which would suggest about 1200 starters.
This is just my estimate I have no inside knowledge.
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 17 June, 2019, 11:10:30 pm
Post by: grams on 17 June, 2019, 11:15:34 pm
(There were 894 finish scans, although that includes some who were out of time or skipped controls)
Post by: Alex B on 18 June, 2019, 05:17:56 am
(There were 894 finish scans, although that includes some who were out of time or skipped controls)
The LRM web site (http://www.randonneursmondiaux.org/35-Compilation.html) lists 831 validated finishers - so 610 DNF (42.3%).
Post by: mmmmartin on 19 June, 2019, 03:37:21 pm
*It's possible they entered the "fast" time because the "usual" section was full. So they had a place, rode LEL, didn't pack - but show up as DNF. Any comparison between DNf rates with previous years or with PBP needs to bear this in mind.
Post by: grams on 19 June, 2019, 03:56:57 pm
(From the raw barcode data. Brevets may differ)
Post by: quixoticgeek on 19 June, 2019, 04:06:51 pm
Can someone confirm that my understanding on the following is correct.
PBP is not an LRM validated ride, so doesn't count for the completing an LRM validated ride in 2017,2018,2019, and 2020 route?
J
Post by: Ajax Bay on 19 June, 2019, 04:12:59 pm
Can someone confirm that my understanding on the following is correct.See post #16 above (in answer to my Q)
PBP is not an LRM validated ride, so doesn't count for the completing an LRM validated ride in 2017,2018,2019, and 2020 route?
J
1000s are BRM or BR. 1200(+) are RM or BR, except for PBP. 1000s and PBP don't count as RM.
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 19 June, 2019, 04:22:57 pm
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I seek to balance giving both new and experienced riders the chance to take part. Mark has been very helpful in calculating the numbers, giving me the confidence to announce that anyone with a LRM validated event in 2017-2020 inclusive is guaranteed a place on LEL. We will allow PBP for your 2019 ride. Thanks for all your help, Mark!
Post by: quixoticgeek on 19 June, 2019, 04:26:08 pm
Danial posted this on the LRM facebook page.QuoteI seek to balance giving both new and experienced riders the chance to take part. Mark has been very helpful in calculating the numbers, giving me the confidence to announce that anyone with a LRM validated event in 2017-2020 inclusive is guaranteed a place on LEL. We will allow PBP for your 2019 ride. Thanks for all your help, Mark!
Doh. I just emailed a load of people saying PBP didn't count... Oops.
J
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 19 June, 2019, 06:55:55 pm
Danial posted this on the LRM facebook page.Is this one LRM event in any of those years? Before I thought I read it as one in each of those yearsQuoteI seek to balance giving both new and experienced riders the chance to take part. Mark has been very helpful in calculating the numbers, giving me the confidence to announce that anyone with a LRM validated event in 2017-2020 inclusive is guaranteed a place on LEL. We will allow PBP for your 2019 ride. Thanks for all your help, Mark!
Post by: Phil W on 19 June, 2019, 06:57:16 pm
Danial posted this on the LRM facebook page.Is this one LRM event in any of those years? Before I thought I read it as one in each of those yearsQuoteI seek to balance giving both new and experienced riders the chance to take part. Mark has been very helpful in calculating the numbers, giving me the confidence to announce that anyone with a LRM validated event in 2017-2020 inclusive is guaranteed a place on LEL. We will allow PBP for your 2019 ride. Thanks for all your help, Mark!
The latter, so one in each year else the numbers who would qualify goes through the roof.
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 19 June, 2019, 09:40:24 pm
AIUI the "high" rate of DNF was affected by riders entering the fast group* and finishing inside the "usual" time but outside the "fast" time. So they would have finished the ride itself but were technically DNF because they were outside the time they were supposed to do it in.
Danial has already posted to the fb group that he may have partially caused the unusually high DNF rate by indicating that a relaxed approach to northbound timing would be adopted . With hindsight this led to many failing to realise that the northern sections are tough. Add in the very hard last day headwind across the Fens .. and mix in that we had some Far Eastern riders .. who when asking about possible nighttime temperatures (reply could be cold , wet and might be in the range 0 to 5 C ) .. their reaction was .. I HAVE NEVER RIDDEN IN A TEMPERATURE BELOW 20 C. So multiple factors involved here .. but in my view .. there is no reason for LEL DNFs to be significantly different to PBP if that is your measure of normal.
Post by: StantheMan on 20 June, 2019, 09:11:40 am
I got some rest. When I was going out again a lady came in soaking wet. I asked is it still raining. Yes! Then I turned back and DNF.
Reasons to my DNF was I was fed up with raining. The headwind ahead. I knew that there was direct train from Thirsk to London. I had to travel to Finland shortly after ride. Some health problems so I had to spare myself a little. I would have ridden 200k but 400k at that moment was too much to ride alone headwind etc.
And maybe I am born loser because it was my second DNF LEL. But I did pbp2015.
In Thirsk there a lot of other DNFs. Mostly us slow riders who had suffered most from bad weather. The fast ones where luckier.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 20 June, 2019, 10:53:45 am
On the return leg we kept waiting for a bulge of riders that never came. Reflecting on the times at which riders came in, riders of all speeds and capabilities were later than expected (despite Phil D having been a controller in 2009 and 2013 and myself having ridden in 2009 and catered in 2013). Even the strong riders looked fairly shattered after crossing the fens in the headwinds.
Putting these factors together I would suggest that the weather was the main factor, and discussions about a relaxed first-half increased the impact of the weather. I'm sure that this will serve as warning for riders in 2021 - both through discussion groups and (dare I suggest) guidance in official briefings - and riders will give themselves more time for a potentially difficult return.
That, plus the early entry that should ensure a higher proportion of more experienced riders, whilst retaining the principle of not requiring qualifying rides, should, IMHO, help a return to a higher level of completion in 2021.
Post by: bhoot on 08 July, 2019, 01:30:07 pm
Don't panic (yet) if it isn't - as you will see there are a few reasons why your number may have been been missed, if so you can contact me.
Post by: jon.pavelin on 20 August, 2020, 08:44:20 am
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Post by: Wycombewheeler on 20 August, 2020, 09:35:14 am
At face value it would seem harsh to penalise you if you attempted to set up a direct debit, but for whatever reason it failed and then you addressed it straight away.
Post by: alwyn on 20 August, 2020, 10:47:56 am
I know that everything will be up in the air tight now re. what LEL will look like in 2021 with the coronavirus situation, but I was wondering about eligibility. I had an issue with my direct debit setup so my membership lapsed for 1 day on 1st January. I'm no longer on the excel for a guaranteed place, but i hope that there may be a bit if wiggle room. Wondering who i need to beg to, Caroline Fenton or Alwyn?
That's a tough one. I think Caroline was pretty clear in giving warning that she would be uncompromising going forward. I would speak to her first.
Post by: composite on 22 August, 2020, 11:00:54 pm
Been thinking for a while now that I was definitely on for a spot. I guess I'll just go into the ballot and hope. :-\
Post by: el on 23 August, 2020, 09:24:34 am
Post by: Tomsk on 23 August, 2020, 05:37:06 pm
I'm keen to apply to the ballot. However my money hasn't been returned from the lejog audax that didnt run this year. Is there any provision for returning entry fees if the event doesn't run/ covid as I need some assurances I am not recklessly throwing away money!
In past LEL editions there was a cut-off date, beyond which a refund couln't be given (less a deposit, I'm not sure?), if real life or lack of fitness intervened. Covid is now another 'what if' in the mix ...
Maybe the spendy headline events should be underwritten by AUK, so the organisers and riders aren't out of pocket?
Post by: Lightning Phil on 23 August, 2020, 06:53:06 pm
Post by: jzhowie on 23 August, 2020, 08:08:13 pm
I was holding off on re-starting my membership till the new year, but if its required ill pop for it tomorrow.
Finally got that itch back after all but retiring after a successful PBP in 2015.
Post by: Neil C on 23 August, 2020, 09:27:48 pm
https://londonedinburghlondon.com/enter
Post by: jzhowie on 23 August, 2020, 09:50:59 pm
Post by: Paul D on 24 August, 2020, 10:17:13 am
I'm keen to apply to the ballot. However my money hasn't been returned from the lejog audax that didnt run this year. Is there any provision for returning entry fees if the event doesn't run/ covid as I need some assurances I am not recklessly throwing away money!
On this topic, the blurb on the entry page for those of us eligible to enter without ballot is:
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you will be able to enter and pay [£350 full entry fee] immediately between 7-14 January 2021
Then on the terms and conditions page:
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You can cancel your entry to London Edinburgh London anytime before 31 March 2021. We will refund any payment you have made, minus a £50 administration charge.
So it seems the COVID gamble is 50 quid, as long as I have £300 I don't need for six months, except that it's probably unlikely Daniel et al will pull the event for pandemic reasons by 31st March, actually making it a full £350 COVID gamble. :-\
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 24 August, 2020, 10:42:46 am
Looking at the situation at the moment, with cases constant in UK, rising in several European countries and high in USA i can't see it being viable to run. To run an event with these numbers from many countries probably needs widespread vaccination. I think its likely there will be approved vaccines by next spring, but not definite.
Post by: jon.pavelin on 24 August, 2020, 11:46:26 am
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Post by: grams on 24 August, 2020, 12:04:39 pm
So it seems the COVID gamble is 50 quid, as long as I have £300 I don't need for six months, except that it's probably unlikely Daniel et al will pull the event for pandemic reasons by 31st March, actually making it a full £350 COVID gamble. :-\
Yeah, the terms are silent on what happens if the event is postponed or cancelled or there are lockdown/quarantine rules that render it impractical for you to attend.
tbh I can only see it happening in X-rated form with no canteens or sleeping halls, which means you won't be getting your £350 worth even if you ride it.
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 24 August, 2020, 12:36:40 pm
Although the trend do say you can cancel up to 31st March for most of a refund. Whether the picture on 31st of March will be more clear than now is another question.So it seems the COVID gamble is 50 quid, as long as I have £300 I don't need for six months, except that it's probably unlikely Daniel et al will pull the event for pandemic reasons by 31st March, actually making it a full £350 COVID gamble. :-\
Yeah, the terms are silent on what happens if the event is postponed or cancelled or there are lockdown/quarantine rules that render it impractical for you to attend.
tbh I can only see it happening in X-rated form with no canteens or sleeping halls, which means you won't be getting your £350 worth even if you ride it.
And of course the organisers will not want large numbers of cancellations at end of March when people get cold feet.
Post by: Lightning Phil on 24 August, 2020, 01:42:06 pm
Post by: Paul D on 24 August, 2020, 03:08:58 pm
You seem to have all missed that Danial said he's not even sure if it'll run next year, and if it does what the format will be, and that the next decision point is November 2020. So just bide your time and see where we are in November when the next announcement will be made.
You're absolutely right, I missed that if it was on the website. Thanks for the heads up.
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 27 August, 2020, 02:40:37 pm
I know that everything will be up in the air tight now re. what LEL will look like in 2021 with the coronavirus situation, but I was wondering about eligibility. I had an issue with my direct debit setup so my membership lapsed for 1 day on 1st January. I'm no longer on the excel for a guaranteed place, but i hope that there may be a bit if wiggle room. Wondering who i need to beg to, Caroline Fenton or Alwyn?Did you check for your membership number in the linkbin the post directly above yours?
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https://audax.uk/static-data/lel-2021-auk-members-guaranteed-entry/
Post by: jon.pavelin on 27 August, 2020, 02:51:16 pm
Yes, i'm not on the list. Will just have to wait for the ballot probably. If i don't get in i'll help out at Eskdalemuir/Innerleithen if needed. Win winI know that everything will be up in the air tight now re. what LEL will look like in 2021 with the coronavirus situation, but I was wondering about eligibility. I had an issue with my direct debit setup so my membership lapsed for 1 day on 1st January. I'm no longer on the excel for a guaranteed place, but i hope that there may be a bit if wiggle room. Wondering who i need to beg to, Caroline Fenton or Alwyn?Did you check for your membership number in the linkbin the post directly above yours?
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Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 27 August, 2020, 10:20:21 pm
I am hoping that 21 is still on .. but we agree it has to be a full LEL .. not some half baked affair.
I hope to be able to get a delay on a final decision until as late as possible .. maybe even 31st march 21. If this scenario began to play out .. then the existing timetable for all guaranteed entries , next ballot etc etc .. would obviously have to be amended to reflect the fact that there was still uncertainty in Jan / Feb about putting up a large entry fee with no certainty the event was going to run. My further guess is that the cutoff date to get most of your money back might well stand, as we do need some clarification of the money position, rather than finding that quite late on we get a lot of withdrawals expecting to get a big refund. But this is my own view late at night without thinking about the problem much.. given that the far bigger query is 21 or 22.
Hope this is useful .
Post by: mmmmartin on 27 August, 2020, 10:32:45 pm
Over to you....
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 28 August, 2020, 09:18:33 am
Post by: mmmmartin on 28 August, 2020, 03:25:18 pm
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 28 August, 2020, 03:52:31 pm
Post by: simonp on 28 August, 2020, 04:30:50 pm
Very much tongue in cheek!! I have seen that one tropical resort in Brazil is requiring a positive swab result or antibody test for anybody who wants to attend the resort. We could run LEL on the same basis. All volunteers and riders need to have a certificate to say they have had Covid!!
Given that there are now multiple known cases of reinfection, this is of questionable value. Particularly in the case of the Nevada incidence, where the patient was much more sick the second time around.
Post by: FifeingEejit on 28 August, 2020, 05:55:13 pm
While I've been one of the advocates for getting perms and x rated events back on. I think it is unlikely LEL will run. The decision must be taken in March, but what do you need to see at that time to make the decision to go ahead? The virus will not be eradicated. Its provable that a vaccine will be approved, but the roll out of that vaccine in all countries will take a long time. Would LEL with no overseas entrants be desirable? Probably not and I would be surprised if we could say with certainty in March that afull international LEL could run in August.
With UK.Gov ending furlough, chances are there's going to be a lot of people unable to afford such big events and travel anyway.
Similar balance in other countries where people may or may not be able to travel for a variety of reasons.
For example:
Until a few days ago NHS Scotland had a holiday policy that effectively banned foreign travel without management approval as home working was categorically not an option for handling 2 week quarantine.
It's since been fixed in that if you find yourself having to quarantine for 2 weeks having gone on holiday without that requirement at the time you went, line managers do now have an option to approve home working, fine for me but plenty of others can't do their jobs from home. And still at line managers discression.
So there may be a lot of people who simply can't travel if they want to keep their job, and who would want to lose a secure job when plenty of others are losing theirs while the global economy continues to collapse (which it will for a bit yet no matter what steps are taken)
Post by: Davef on 28 August, 2020, 06:45:15 pm
While I've been one of the advocates for getting perms and x rated events back on. I think it is unlikely LEL will run. The decision must be taken in March, but what do you need to see at that time to make the decision to go ahead? The virus will not be eradicated. Its provable that a vaccine will be approved, but the roll out of that vaccine in all countries will take a long time. Would LEL with no overseas entrants be desirable? Probably not and I would be surprised if we could say with certainty in March that afull international LEL could run in August.You could make proof of vaccination a requirement of entry. The cost of vaccination is likely to be low compared to the cost of travel.
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 28 August, 2020, 07:07:45 pm
Simon. I did say tongue in cheek!!Very much tongue in cheek!! I have seen that one tropical resort in Brazil is requiring a positive swab result or antibody test for anybody who wants to attend the resort. We could run LEL on the same basis. All volunteers and riders need to have a certificate to say they have had Covid!!
Given that there are now multiple known cases of reinfection, this is of questionable value. Particularly in the case of the Nevada incidence, where the patient was much more sick the second time around.
Post by: The French Tandem on 15 September, 2020, 05:50:17 pm
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 15 September, 2020, 06:15:37 pm
LEL 2021 will collides with the 2020 Olympics (as they are still called, despite being held in 2021) I am not suggesting that many potential LEL riders will also enter the Olympics, but maybe it should be taken into account?
Isn't it a bit much to go from London to Edinburgh via Tokyo? It's really taking the pee to do it on the return leg too...
Sorry...
J
Post by: Lightning Phil on 15 September, 2020, 06:18:47 pm
LEL 2021 will collides with the 2020 Olympics (as they are still called, despite being held in 2021) I am not suggesting that many potential LEL riders will also enter the Olympics, but maybe it should be taken into account?
A
I believe they are going to move the Olympics due to the clash.
Post by: The French Tandem on 15 September, 2020, 06:35:11 pm
LEL 2021 will collides with the 2020 Olympics (as they are still called, despite being held in 2021) I am not suggesting that many potential LEL riders will also enter the Olympics, but maybe it should be taken into account?
A
I believe they are going to move the Olympics due to the clash.
Of course, LEL was the first to set its dates.
Post by: Feanor on 27 October, 2020, 09:29:26 am
"Regrettably, we have decided to postpone LEL2021 until 2022. Even though the world has made huge progress in combatting Covid-19, we are not confident that the world will recover by next year.
LEL2021 will now take place on 7 August 2022.
If you already have a guaranteed place because you have paid a deposit, we will hold this for you. However if you decide you no longer want to take part, then please email us at 2021@londonedinburghlondon.com before 31 December 2020 for a full refund of your deposit. From 1 January 2021 our usual rules will apply.
If you are looking for a guaranteed place because you are a member of Audax UK or Audax Ireland, you will need to keep your membership for an additional year.
If you are looking for a guaranteed place because of qualifying LRM events, then you will need to have completed a LRM-validated in four of the five years 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
We will write to everyone over the next few days. In the meantime if you have any questions then please ask them here."
Post by: Suffolk Born on 27 October, 2020, 12:07:04 pm
Post by: mzjo on 27 October, 2020, 12:28:01 pm
From BookFace:
"Regrettably, we have decided to postpone LEL2021 until 2022. Even though the world has made huge progress in combatting Covid-19, we are not confident that the world will recover by next year.
LEL2021 will now take place on 7 August 2022.
If you already have a guaranteed place because you have paid a deposit, we will hold this for you. However if you decide you no longer want to take part, then please email us at 2021@londonedinburghlondon.com before 31 December 2020 for a full refund of your deposit. From 1 January 2021 our usual rules will apply.
If you are looking for a guaranteed place because you are a member of Audax UK or Audax Ireland, you will need to keep your membership for an additional year.
If you are looking for a guaranteed place because of qualifying LRM events, then you will need to have completed a LRM-validated in four of the five years 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
We will write to everyone over the next few days. In the meantime if you have any questions then please ask them here."
Note: as of 1 hour ago only on the main Facebook page, not on the website or the volunteers Facebook (but that undoubtedly will follow). Given the evolution of the world (inside and outside UK) and the pandemic this is probably a wise decision, no matter how much we might not like it.
I am now volunteer for 2022 (and will go to my niece's wedding in august 2021 - unless that gets moved yet again, due to YKW)
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 October, 2020, 12:38:10 pm
On the plus side, means I can now make it, unless of course the TCR that was supposed to happen this year, and is now happening next year, gets bumped yet again... Which is entirely plausible.
J
Post by: postie on 27 October, 2020, 05:16:23 pm
Post by: perpetual dan on 27 October, 2020, 05:19:17 pm
I say a shame in part because next year is a round number in age, and it'd be nice to mark it with something.
Post by: madcow on 27 October, 2020, 06:08:46 pm
Brave decision but the right one. Nobody's making positive commitments on events for first half of next year in either business or leisure as far as I can see. "3 weeks to flatten the curve". I wish.
Post by: bairn again on 27 October, 2020, 06:11:16 pm
One interesting knock on effect is that LEL will presumably now be an eligible BRM ride vis a vis pre qualifying for PBP2023 which might stoke up demand compared with a non PBP-1 year scenario. Edit - assuming PBP2023 actually happens in 2023!
From a slightly selfish point of view Ive a basic 1000km event pencilled in for late June 2022 (Edin - Adeen - Edin - Lancaster - Edin) which im hoping can still go ahead.
Post by: madcow on 27 October, 2020, 06:16:19 pm
Post by: simonp on 27 October, 2020, 06:22:41 pm
And peaking for LEL should make it easier to maintain fitness for PBP. The same PBP that I (and several others) said that I didn't want to do again.
You mean like I said 2/3 way round in 2007. “I’m only going to finish this so I don’t have to come back”.
Post by: bairn again on 27 October, 2020, 06:26:59 pm
And peaking for LEL should make it easier to maintain fitness for PBP. The same PBP that I (and several others) said that I didn't want to do again.
You mean like I said 2/3 way round in 2007. “I’m only going to finish this so I don’t have to come back”.
Yeah sorry to mention PBP2023 so early. :o
Post by: alwyn on 27 October, 2020, 08:00:25 pm
Note: as of 1 hour ago only on the main Facebook page, not on the website or the volunteers Facebook (but that undoubtedly will follow). Given the evolution of the world (inside and outside UK) and the pandemic this is probably a wise decision, no matter how much we might not like it.
I am now volunteer for 2022 (and will go to my niece's wedding in august 2021 - unless that gets moved yet again, due to YKW)
My day job is spectacularly busy at the moment, so please forgive me for any delay while I get the messages out. I'm just updating the website and will probably send emails later in the week.
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 30 October, 2020, 08:28:53 am
Here's hoping for a great event in 2022
Post by: Karla on 03 November, 2020, 12:57:18 am
... unless of course the TCR that was supposed to happen this year, and is now happening next year, gets bumped yet again... Which is entirely plausible.
J
I'll give you odds of 99 to 1 it gets bumped again :'(
Post by: Ajax Bay on 07 January, 2021, 04:01:11 pm
Did you check for your membership number in the linkbin the post directly above yours?https://audax.uk/static-data/lel-2022-auk-members-guaranteed-entry/
https://audax.uk/static-data/lel-2021-auk-members-guaranteed-entry/
1 Jan announcement: "The LEL team originally announced that guaranteed ["early"] entry would be available to "Audax UK members who were members on 12 September 2018, and remain members on 1 January 2021". However with LEL being moved back to 2022, this has changed to add the requirement to remain a member on 1 January 2022. If you want to check your situation please look at this file listing [link above] the membership numbers that are currently eligible - this now reflects renewals up to 31st December 2020."
There are (only) 4304 numbers on this list. I'm surprised that so large a percentage of the Audax UK membership are such transient members, given there's been 8000+ members in 2018, 2019 and 2020. Or maybe that's 1000 odd members who have failed to renew 'on time'.
http://www.aukweb.net/results/statistics/detail/memgrowth/
Post by: Davef on 07 January, 2021, 04:57:27 pm
Post by: Geriatricdolan on 08 January, 2021, 08:23:51 am
There are (only) 4304 numbers on this list. I'm surprised that so large a percentage of the Audax UK membership are such transient members, given there's been 8000+ members in 2018, 2019 and 2020. Or maybe that's 1000 odd members who have failed to renew 'on time'.
http://www.aukweb.net/results/statistics/detail/memgrowth/
Many join for one year when/after they do their first Audax, of those many go on to renew, but I suspect neither have happened in 2020
Post by: D.A.L.E. on 13 January, 2021, 05:23:47 am
I definitely forgot to renew my membership :facepalm:Did you check for your membership number in the linkbin the post directly above yours?There are (only) 4304 numbers on this list. I'm surprised that so large a percentage of the Audax UK membership are such transient members, given there's been 8000+ members in 2018, 2019 and 2020. Or maybe that's 1000 odd members who have failed to renew 'on time'.
https://audax.uk/static-data/lel-2021-auk-members-guaranteed-entry/
http://www.aukweb.net/results/statistics/detail/memgrowth/