Author Topic: Posting back to the EU  (Read 4342 times)

Re: Posting back to the EU
« Reply #25 on: 21 June, 2021, 11:40:08 pm »
Is the sending urgent?

Where in France?

Not really, but if I post to person in UK who can later bring to France it could take a year for that to happen and if I pay £20 to post UK or £50 to post France you got to wonder if it's worth it...

I will have to see what the post office say, they may suggest it is a billionty pounds to post anyway.
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Re: Posting back to the EU
« Reply #26 on: 21 June, 2021, 11:52:46 pm »
I will have to see what the post office say, they may suggest it is a billionty pounds to post anyway.
You can get a quote here, I'm guessing based on other items it'll be around £20
https://uk.interparcel.com/quote/parcel

You can also fill the customs declaration in at the same time. What they don't quote are the charges at the other end, you can have a guess at them, VAT and handling.

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Re: Posting back to the EU
« Reply #27 on: 21 June, 2021, 11:57:25 pm »
Ironically, it IS a British tool but they won't sell it to you here.

Now I'm curious?

With sales tactics like that, it's got to be Brompton related...

Re: Posting back to the EU
« Reply #28 on: 22 June, 2021, 01:46:09 pm »
I had better come clean on this . It's me the buyer! I really should have bought the wheels when I bought the tyres (probably didn't have the dosh at the time) :facepalm:

To clear up a couple of points.
1) It is possible to send from France to UK without paying import duty (although that may end when C&E get their software sorted, originally for july, wait and see). I know this 'cos I have done it (a bicycle with a whole load of tools and accessories). It is also possible to send from UK to France (my english daughter has, to her french sister!)

2) Back in the days beloved of Brexiteers the french were very lenient on import duties on secondhand items. I would expect this to still be the case within certain limits


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Unless they are particularly special rims, I would suggest it would be cheaper to buy new ones in France. They are going to be very expensive to post cos of the size. Royal mail won't do it*. I dread to think what DHL would charge. I recently wanted to send something to the UK. It used to cost me €10, now the same item is €55.

Basically anything international is now very expensive, and very convoluted. But that's fine, that's what people wanted apparently...

J


* Max size: Length + width + depth no more than 90cm with no single side longer than 60cm

What's special about these rims is that they stopped being made a certain time ago and I like them. Equivalents are undoubtedly available in USAnia for a price. Equivalents in Europe are heavier and/or wider which is sub-optimal. Other than that what makes them special is that they aren't! No offset drillings, no tubeless ready, no disc only, no reinfoced spoke beds - just an old-fashioned rim for a bicycle wheel (and 650B!)

When I sent the bike to Cat https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=119043.0 DHL were not the best carrier (partly because the office staff in Limoges were not able to look at a bike box and say that it wouldn't be accepted). When I went looking for carriers because the DHL on-line booking (the only way they seem to work) wouldn't accept the box dimensions I ended up using Packlink to find a carrier. I can't remember if UPS were the cheapest but they were the one I chose and I can't complain at the service although yes the price was steep (but in plain pandemic restrictions the option of transporting the bike myself was simply not available without £2000 of quarantine hotel expense).

Re Import duties. As I understand it I am the one liable so that's my choice.
Is the sending urgent?

Where in France?

Not really, but if I post to person in UK who can later bring to France it could take a year for that to happen and if I pay £20 to post UK or £50 to post France you got to wonder if it's worth it...

I will have to see what the post office say, they may suggest it is a billionty pounds to post anyway.

The sending isn't urgent at all (other than one of the rims might be urgent to someone else that I don't know) I am just future proofing. OTH after 18 months of closed borders, who's betting on when cross-Channel travel will be normalised again! My 18 month old grandson will probably be old enough to bring them over himself all alone by the time that happens!

I would check on Packlink for a quote, it isn't binding.

Re: Posting back to the EU
« Reply #29 on: 22 June, 2021, 05:30:19 pm »
A little more light reading  :demon:
https://www.tarifdouanier.eu/info/droits-douaniers  This is the french language version but the document must exist in other local languages including english, I just haven't looked yet (and my geographical location probably defaults to french). This is the thing that explains how certain chinese exporters avoid import duties! Clearly if you don't put the carriage costs on the invoice they shouldn't be counted for import duties or VAT (logically since the inverse is true)

https://support.packlink.com/hc/en-gb This is the english version; my starting point was a bit different since I was already a client https://support.packlink.com/hc/fr-fr/articles/360000802959##instructions 

It looks to me that the easiest way to send a parcel duty free is if the sender is not the seller. The rims are paid by me and sent to my daughter (who is in UK). She can then send them to me declared as personal belongings and non-commercial. To justify this the cost of posting in UK must be less than any import duty likely to be levied. Otherwise keeping the value of goods sensibly low on the Customs declaration in order to keep below the relevant thresholds seems the way to go.


Re: Posting back to the EU
« Reply #30 on: 23 June, 2021, 01:23:07 am »
FWIW, Senditnow (a cheaper rebrand of Parcelforce) will do a wheelbox sized parcel to France for £28 (includes insurance up to £100 - increasing this to £200 is still under £30), and Parcelmonkey reckons DPD will do it for under £18 (exc insurance beyond a nominal £20, and sized at 75x75x20cm).

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Re: Posting back to the EU
« Reply #31 on: 24 June, 2021, 01:35:34 am »

Is the sending urgent?

Where in France?

Not really, but if I post to person in UK who can later bring to France it could take a year for that to happen and if I pay £20 to post UK or £50 to post France you got to wonder if it's worth it...

I will have to see what the post office say, they may suggest it is a billionty pounds to post anyway.

The sending isn't urgent at all (other than one of the rims might be urgent to someone else that I don't know) I am just future proofing. OTH after 18 months of closed borders, who's betting on when cross-Channel travel will be normalised again! My 18 month old grandson will probably be old enough to bring them over himself all alone by the time that happens!

I would check on Packlink for a quote, it isn't binding.
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