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Off Topic => The Pub => Arts and Entertainment => Topic started by: Riggers on 09 May, 2014, 12:41:35 pm
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Yes! Come on the Netherlands. Nice song, by The Common Linnets. I will be glued to it tomorrow. Perhaps it's the gay side of me, who knows.
No need to comment Hummers.
Quick revamp of 'em all here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5iFGGAKjGc
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That really is rather good. How did it manage to get selected for Eurovision ?
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Yes, is good isn't it. Bit like the Civil Wars.
Now, that there Austrian singer seems an odd cove. Can't quite put my finger on it.
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That is the best entry I've heard since ... well, possibly Abba/Bucks Fizz (but that's an apples/pears comparison).
Sadly it's totally un-Eurovision, and too good to win!
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I.Can't.Wait.
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You.Will.Have.To.
And.So.Will.I.
:(
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Tomorrow. I. Will. Buy. Advocaat. SNOWBALLS!
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Wot, not Lambrini?
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No, I like something more sophisticated for Eurovision.
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The Germans take this seriously.
I Might have to pop into Kempen and find a bar or something with it on. But it's an hour later here so the judging will take forever!
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I quite like Molly, the UK entry, but then I thought last years entry by Dingleberry Pompadeau was good and it came nowhere.
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That's probably because it was Bonnie Tyler last year.
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Was Dingleberry two years ago, blimey. I liked it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFNv9pjqZkk
My favourite bit was the emoting, see him move his hand up and down on the key change? Genius.
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Here we go!
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That hamster wheel thingy could be the new BMF, coming to a park near you soon.
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Where does a hamster wheel come in the Eurovision drinking game? I quite like this Belarus nonsense, although I do not like cheesecake.
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"I look over Google maps to escape, cos I'm tired of being your sweet cheesecake"
Tidybeard man.
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Ken Bruce commentary is in synch this year, available on red button.
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Belarus are rubbish.
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I thought the first singer looked much nicer in the short intro film, before she got caked in slap.
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... before she got caked in slap.
Is that a euphemism?
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TRAPEZE ALERT!
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The Azerbajin lady is dragging the notes out too long:
(http://memeguy.com/photos/thumbs/whats-whitney-houstons-favorite-type-of-coordination-108321.jpg)
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They missed a trick by not giving the trapeze woman a sign saying F5.
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Here come The Wiggles.
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Do they keep singing "rancid piss"?
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Iceland look like Split Enz.
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The Iceland mob have hipster haircuts. 5/10. Also people don't look the same inside, suppose one has lung cancer?
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Do you think Norway don't want to host the jamboree next year?
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Stone me, you can't chuck a brick without hitting a tidy beard, this ghastly fart-knocker's even trimmed his eyebrows.
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Oooh, your gonna love Austria spindrift.
:D
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Titanic intro rip-off.
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Ice-skater alert!
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No wind machines yet.
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I missed it - how did the geopolitical underdogs Ukraine do?
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Were they the ones with the hamster wheel?
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They had a hamster wheel and a pretty woman with a lot of hair and a big dress.
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I just love the sight of a pretty girl in a hamster wheel.
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She wasn't in the hamster wheel, there was a bloke in it.
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She was on top of the hamster wheel. Made me nervous.
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This Polish thing is a bit pimpy.
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Anyway, forget hamster wheels. I'm now wanting to visit Poland. With a milk churn.
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"Did I mention this used to be a dockyard?" says Graham.
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Rapping's such a versatile art form.
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Where's the trampolinist gone?
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I wonder what on Earth any visiting Americans think of Eurovision. I'm fairly Euro-adapted but even I find it simply weird.
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and there he is.
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WTFuckity fuck?
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The trampoline or Conchita?
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In the semis she was a bit of a let down, good voice but no drama. She needs to let her inner Shirley Bassey out.
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Best voice so far, no question.
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German commentator just said 'Man or woman, beard or no beard, that was a James Bond song.' (about Austria'
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The bearded woman was deffo best singer so far. Big gob as well.
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German lady's good but looks like she got dressed in Cyndi Lauper's bedroom with the light out.
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Germany's a bit earnest student, that accordian player needs to put a bit of Belleville Rendezvous into it.
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The chemistry between those two was literally non-existent.
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This is the first time we have listened to Graham's commentary, previously having Ken Bruce and non-live internet streaming.
Not sure who is better yet.
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Sweden might win, this is good. I'm not sure how you undo sad.
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The Swedish woman might as well be singing about how her heart will go on. Is that really the favourite?
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Tying fireworks to bikes, they'll get letters.
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Jesus H Corbett, look at these horrors.
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I was asking Vernon what had happened to Jedward just the other day.
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Lazytown innit?
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I love the French bloke.
Not that I'm watching it, obviously..
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He's a cross between bobb and tintin!
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I reckon the Russian girls have got hair they could sit on!
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So, that's where the control rods for Orac went.
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It's a pontoon bridge for the invasion.
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Nighties, lightsabres and a see-saw. What's not to like?
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"Which I absent-minded wedge into this city's intrusive manhole"
That's what my subtitles said. What does it mean?
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I don't like the Italian one. It's like a Girls Aloud b-side.
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""I like parking inattentively""
I reckon they're taking the piss.
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Are the lyrics in the subtitles, then?
If so, I'll invest the time to figure out how to get subtitles.
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Nah, they're a product of spinner's overactive imagination.
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Lyric subtitles are in the red button.
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You filthy liar! That's what she sang!
Hang on, why's Liz Jones on?
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presumably the Mail doesn't pay well enough to support her horse habit.
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TIME WARP it's 1985 again..
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CHESNEY!
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More like Helstinki, amirite?
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Lyric subtitles are in the red button.
Thanks! I've never pressed the red button before. It's offering the option to "change audio" as well. That's certainly been a tempting option for a couple of the entries.
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Finland sound like Coldplay. I dislike Coldplay.
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Swiss bloke's making a flag out of nazi gold.
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More beards for spindrift.
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The banjo player has a cracking 'tache.
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Looks like an eleven year old squadron leader.
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None of them are actually singing are they? It's all mime.
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"Like an evil satellite"
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"I'm so wet I'm dirty"
Fantastic stuff.
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It's like Mumford and Sons except I like it.
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None of them are actually singing are they? It's all mime.
How very dare you >:( >:( >:(
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Curiously expressive eyebrows.
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Is that a lyric?
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Mucho discussion about the Swiss entry in the Pancho house. It was generally roundly condemned as "the sort of thing Daddy would like". Hmm.
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My only insight to the singalong is this thread... It is like listening to the cricket. I feel the yacf commentary is all I need to know.
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What's with the girl getting duffed up?
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Was that a Hungary song about child abuse? That's not very Eurovisiony.
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Do one, Maltese beard face.
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Maltford and sons!
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Wistful, or recent head injury?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTTSZJIgAEV2LL.jpg)
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What's that lozenge shaped thing he's playing?
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Apparently, Russia was boo-ed in the semi-finals!
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Samira Ahmed @SamiraAhmedUK 45s
So in the Copenhagen #eurovision auditorium @OwenThomasTV confirms the stage announcer told the audience during the films not to boo Russia.
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I'm getting the feeling that hosting it once is enough for Denmark and they're making sure there's no chance of a repeat.
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"Now I'm feelin' blue
Gotta break thru
To you
Oooo"
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I like Denmark. I like the skubadubaduba and the dancing.
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Now I'm having New Edition flashbacks.
Aaarrrgggghhhh.
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I'm getting the feeling that hosting it once is enough for Denmark and they're making sure there's no chance of a repeat.
No, it's better than my little horsey
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Bit of C&W from the Dutch. A Dutch cowboy! Hang on, wouldn't that be Amish?
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The downside of subtitles is that I have a roomfull of wives and daughters singing along.
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The downside of subtitles is that I have a roomfull of wives and daughters singing along.
I didn't know you were a Mormon, Pancho.
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Bit of C&W from the Dutch. A Dutch cowboy! Hang on, wouldn't that be Amish?
That's TheMish to you ;)
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Botticelli
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Botticelli
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg/400px-Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg)
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Ours was the best flag.
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I'm worried we're going to win! :sick:
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Botticelli
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg/400px-Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg)
(http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/1000x665132.jpg?w=650&h=432&crop=1#038;h=665)
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Eurovision Fact #541:
San Marino could be completely carpeted for less than £500.
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I'm sure she must have better songs. This one's very parson's egg. Overall unsatisfying.
But I hope she wins. 'Cos I'm irrationally patriotic at times.
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I'm worried we're going to win! :sick:
Everyone hates Russia more than they hate us this year, so we might not come last.
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Who's the bird (and she is birdlike) in the green room? Someone feed her, please.
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I think everybody should vote for San Marino.
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SAN MARINO'S WAS LIKE A SONG FROM A MUSICAL, EVEN DOWN TO A TALKY BIT AT THE END.
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sorry for shouting
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I am swithering between Iceland and Denmark.
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SAN MARINO'S WAS LIKE A SONG FROM A MUSICAL, EVEN DOWN TO A TALKY BIT AT THE END.
Yebbut, imagine if they won, how the heck would San Marino stage Eurovision?
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They'd have to build an extension.
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Hmm.
Poland - purely for unnecessary cleavage? or
Iceland - for capturing the bonkersness of Eurovision?
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Sweden-shit
France-shit on toast
That cheesecake one-horrible
Polish tit wank-unpleasant
Molly, best flag but she'll lose for being named after a Class A drug.
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Hmm.
Poland - purely for unnecessary cleavage? or
Iceland - for capturing the bonkersness of Eurovision?
Well, who do you most want to watch again?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTZoLhIMAENc83.jpg)
I think they run an exotic cage bird shop in Krakow. Biggest parakeets I've ever seen.
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Always thought Beethoven didn't use harmonicas enough.
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Just off to start a thread "Planning a cycling holiday to Poland".
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I'm hoping for some bad-tempered exchanges when the presenters ask for each country's vote.
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It's the final countdown!
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Alex Andreou @sturdyAlexPlease DO NOT vote for #Greece. We can basically afford either to host this next year or a health service.
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If I voted it would be Netherlands.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTZoLhIMAENc83.jpg)
I think they run an exotic cage bird shop in Krakow. Biggest parakeets I've ever seen.
Lock up Lembit Opik!
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The presenter looks like Princess Kate.
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This interlude-y bit is utterly surreal.
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Dancing Ents!
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The best thing about Molly's song was the Children of the uni
verse.
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I'm going to bed. I'll have to find out who won tomorrow!
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I'm worried we're going to win! :sick:
I'm not.
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Yay for the winner... Notified by text by number one wife.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTzZZAIMAAbrFx.jpg:large)
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I find it makes me surprisingly hopeful for the future, that one who presents such a non conventional gender ID is voted winner in a european wide contest.
The fact that she is also (IMO) the second best singer is a bonus.
Brilliant.
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Has everyone forgotten Dana International?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTzZZAIMAAbrFx.jpg:large)
Is that a bottle of Night Nurse he's knocking back?
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Has everyone forgotten Dana International?
I had. Until now ::-)
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So had I - but I still think Conchita is more significant - because of the almost aggressively* unconventional ID she presents.
*possibly not the best word.
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Conchita is more significant because people knew before hand. I'm happy she won but it wasn't my fave song.
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Well. Now then. What an evening. Number of 'Bond' sounding songs. How the hell did Armenia get so many votes!!??
I felt myself strangely drawn to focus a bit more carefully when Poland started singing. Can't remember the song that well. Poland should use those girls for tourism purposes.
Austria's result says so much more than folks liking just the song.
And I was so pleased The Netherlands almost won!!!!
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The Polish entry wasn’t written for Eurovision. It was already a hit in Poland last year. It's supposed to be a parody on traditional stereotypes of Polish women.
This makes more sense with original video than the Eurovision performance. With the original Polish lyrics the parody is obvious apparently.
http://youtu.be/BQp7z8yYZUI
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Conchita is more significant because people knew before hand. I'm happy she won but it wasn't my fave song.
It was all over the news beforehand that Dana International is a trans woman.
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Conchita is more significant because people knew before hand. I'm happy she won but it wasn't my fave song.
It was all over the news beforehand that Dana International is a trans woman.
Yes, I don't remember being surprised by Dana International - she'd been the subject of quite a lot of publicity and discussion prior to the event. Conchita Wurst seems to be a little different. As far as I've read, she's a 'drag' (I hate that term!) act, very well known in Austria (a bit like Lily Savage but somewhat less grating!), and the actor is Tom Neuwirth who's an ex-boy band member. I don't know if Tom regards himself as trans in any way other than cross-dressing, though he dresses as a man when not being Conchita - much like Paul O'Grady. I get the impression he's been somewhat taken by surprise in being regarded as a figurehead for sexual tolerance, but s/he's adopted the role very well on the relatively few occasions when anyone's given her the opportunity to speak rather than sing.
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The Polish entry wasn’t written for Eurovision. It was already a hit in Poland last year. It's supposed to be a parody on traditional stereotypes of Polish women.
This makes more sense with original video than the Eurovision performance. With the original Polish lyrics the parody is obvious apparently.
http://youtu.be/BQp7z8yYZUI
What a load of twaddle. Like many many artists before them ,desperate for attention, they've gone for the soft-porn/titallation marketing option. (note: the original video has even more flesh and titillation - I've watched it ;D )
http://wiwibloggs.com/2014/02/28/lyrics-slavic-girls-parody/41021/#
Milk running down their cheeks and over their thrusting cleavage isn’t just there to titilate. It plays on the supposed role of women in traditional society: to be angels in the kitchen and wantons in the bedroom.
Genius. They've played on this by showing - guess what - angelic girls in the kitchen, who are then wantons in the bedroom! All in revealing costumes, just in case we were too dense to understand the "parody"!
I feel so much more educated now.
pcolbeck , I hope your use of "it's supposed to be" is sincere.
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According to the Grauniad (sorry, I have to read it as I've reached my free article limit with the Telegraph and haven't got round to rinsing my cookies), the Polish entrants won the open telephone voting. What's democracy good for, eh?
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In case there is still someone unaware, CW translates somewhat freely as 'fanny sausage'. Obvious reference.
I note TimC's reference to 'drag' and his dislike of it. 'Drag' is actually a very specific term, and is well-used in the broad church that covers transgendered people--the "TG Umbrella". There are fundamental differences between drag queens/kings and crossdressers, arising from the different mindsets that are involved. Drag tends in most cases to extend and exaggerate the 'cisgender norm' and often takes it to parody. Watch 'Priscilla' or RuPaul for ideas on that one. Lily Savage is over the top clothes-wise, but the act works more through the personality of the character rather than the frocks.
Crossdressing is an entirely different kettle of fish, horribly complicated, and a totally foreign country to me. Leaving aside 'Genderqueer', those of us who fall into the TS group are a lot simpler to explain. We just have a few issues with our bodies, in the main.
Now, I don't know where Tom/CW falls on that spectrum, but he's done a lot of us a big service by pissing off an awful lot of homophobes. Hint to the Russians, Ugandans, etc: wearing a skirt makes you neither a woman or a gay man. Bigotry isn't that simple.
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According to an article I read in German somewhere, the Wurst thing wasn't about body parts but was an allusion to a German idiom. Can't find where I read it though.
(http://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/uploads/monthly_05_2014/post-9625-13999943321923.jpg)
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According to an article I read in German somewhere, the Wurst thing wasn't about body parts but was an allusion to a German idiom. Can't find where I read it though.
No rush.
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Here you go then:
http://www.dict.cc/?s=Es+ist+mir+wurst
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Hint to the Russians, Ugandans, etc: wearing a skirt makes you neither a woman or a gay man.
You could be Scottish.
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I had a long debate about Dana I vs Conchita on Saturday night. (When it would have been far more sensible to GO TO BED in preparation for bright&early waking of smallperson, but there we go.) I contended that Conchita is more in-yer-face; the other party involved contended that Dana I was more threatening (specifically to the average straight male) because more subtle, ie one might accidentally fancy her without realising o-the-horror. Whereas Conchita is more obvious. (NB as neither of us is a straight male I have no idea how accurate this is; the OPI has a better claim to knowledge than I do but is also more cynical.)
I was happy at the result, anyway :)
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Juliet has struck the nail there. A very large proportion of transphobia is tied up in the fear of fancying a transwoman. There is a perception that they are sent by Satan to entice Real Men to spend their Precious Bodily Fluids in a bogus gaymosexual orifice, and then lead them into a life of puddle-jumping and knowing what they have in their wardrobes. That is why so many of them have to be raped by Real Men.
Drag acts don't do that, because they are intended to be 'read' and thus don't carry the threat. Dana I was simply a good-looking woman with a past, whereas CW is clearly drag and thus non-threatening. I write as someone who is as likely to entice a Real Man as I am to catch a unicorn, but then I hardly have the desire for either...
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Hint to the Russians, Ugandans, etc: wearing a skirt makes you neither a woman or a gay man.
You could be Scottish.
Or Asian/Indian/Polyneasian etc
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27404406
Interesting references to the groundswell of Russian opinion, rather than the usual "one man, one vote*" attitudes we usually see from that benighted country.
*That man is, of course, Putin.
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Juliet has struck the nail there. A very large proportion of transphobia is tied up in the fear of fancying a transwoman. There is a perception that they are sent by Satan to entice Real Men to spend their Precious Bodily Fluids in a bogus gaymosexual orifice, and then lead them into a life of puddle-jumping and knowing what they have in their wardrobes. That is why so many of them have to be raped by Real Men.
I know two people who have had this happen to them.
Drag acts don't do that, because they are intended to be 'read' and thus don't carry the threat. Dana I was simply a good-looking woman with a past, whereas CW is clearly drag and thus non-threatening. I write as someone who is as likely to entice a Real Man as I am to catch a unicorn, but then I hardly have the desire for either...
While being 'straight' (ie, I'm attracted to women), to me oddly CW looks 'attractive'. It would be interesting to analyse why; 'drag' acts do nothing for me. Probably some odd combination of voice, eyes and suchlike.
I find the Russian posturing laughable. It sounds so insecure; they come across as so terrified of discovering that deep down, they really want it . . .
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Ahhh, how very true. Methinks thems do protest too much! If only people were more accepting and forgiving.