I hate car mass camping. the sort of camping where the packing takes an hour, you have everything, but it's still not as comfy as sitting at home.
Now I was *really* impressed by Kim's camping at the rally. She seemed to have almost no luggage on her bent yet still produced a sizeable tent, full trangia *and* a folding stool. Seemed mighty suspicious to me, I think she's been messing with Strange Science and her panniers are larger on the inside than out.