Author Topic: 4x4 versus stream  (Read 6822 times)

Riggers

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4x4 versus stream
« on: 08 September, 2008, 01:26:50 pm »
Not quite sure if this deserves to be in this section or what, but found this on my Sunday ride yesterday. Brought a big "Oh dear, oh dear" from me. I'm guessing whoever was driving it got out okay.

It's a narrow road near Piltdown, and I still can't see how they managed to get it into the stream. It's not as if you can go fast on this particular road. I dunno. Looks pretty new too.







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Jezza

Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #1 on: 08 September, 2008, 01:45:41 pm »
Chain's a bit slack.

Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #2 on: 08 September, 2008, 02:01:19 pm »
It does show very well how crude the running gear is on those things. One might almost call it 'agricultural'.

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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #3 on: 08 September, 2008, 02:03:17 pm »
Wonder how/why the car went off roading?

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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #4 on: 08 September, 2008, 02:33:42 pm »
The fences in the second photo imply the road is straight. What happened? Did tom-tom say, "Turn right at the bridge"? Or perhaps more likely, swerving to avoid something it would have otherwise have had a head-on collision with? Who knows?

No idea of the road but from the phots you can see quite far.

May be they thought it needed a wash.

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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #5 on: 08 September, 2008, 02:54:28 pm »
This is a narrow road system, and has blind bends. It's not the road for any high-speed, which, as I say, curious as to how it ended up where it did. One's talking about a car's width across the bridge, and as everything else is 'soft' material either side of the bridge, one can exclude it hitting anything 'firm' on the opposite side which would have resulted in the car being bounced across.
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #6 on: 08 September, 2008, 02:57:38 pm »
Oh, the windscreen wipers were probably faulty.

You know - they wouldn't go fast enough to get all that water off the windscreen...
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #7 on: 08 September, 2008, 02:59:54 pm »
Epic fail!
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #8 on: 08 September, 2008, 04:24:02 pm »
I must admit to having a sniggerette at the photos....  :-[ ;D
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cc93

Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #9 on: 08 September, 2008, 04:34:23 pm »
I'm guessing whoever was driving it got out okay.


Let's hope so - some weren't quite so lucky

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Really Ancien

Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #10 on: 08 September, 2008, 05:20:40 pm »
I'd go for someone trying to ford further up stream, the water was too deep, or the ford had been altered by the flood and it was swept downstream.

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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #11 on: 08 September, 2008, 05:24:28 pm »
Looking at it, I'd say for some reason drove off the edge of the bridge (where the tape is now), landed on the sloping bank and rolled.
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #12 on: 08 September, 2008, 05:30:43 pm »
Serious question - Which way does a car slew if, under heavy braking, it puts two wheels onto a slippery surface like grass/mud?

I would imagine it slews into the side that retains grip, i.e. the wheels still on the road. So could they have tried to avoid something, put two wheels on the verge and then slewed out, across the road and down the bank?
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #13 on: 08 September, 2008, 06:16:52 pm »
All over the place, depending on what kind of car, how fast, and all that.  Brake marks would help explain your avoidance hypothesis: drivers avoiding things will go all over the bloody place, no matter what the physics says.

The inverted fail-o-wagon and its broken fence reeks of User Error.  I hope they were okay.
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #14 on: 08 September, 2008, 06:29:48 pm »
It does show very well how crude the running gear is on those things. One might almost call it 'agricultural'.

We had a piece of said running gear fall off one of those in the Namib desert. It didn't seem to much mind.  Agricultural can be good.

Really Ancien

Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #15 on: 08 September, 2008, 06:40:40 pm »
The water came over the road where the fence is broken as the road surface has been scoured out. I'd expect  the Disco to have come off the downstream parapet.

Damon.

Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #16 on: 08 September, 2008, 09:34:27 pm »
It's gone over the upstream side of the bridge - you can see the flow in photo 2. No sign of water having come over, to my eyes.
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #17 on: 08 September, 2008, 10:47:20 pm »
More likely a bend suddenly appeared in the road.
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #18 on: 09 September, 2008, 04:30:59 am »
Epic fail!
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #19 on: 09 September, 2008, 08:24:08 am »
Well, all I can say is, there was absolutely no sign of skidmarks, nor any sign the car slewed off either side of the road before it went 'off-road' through the fence.
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« Reply #20 on: 09 September, 2008, 12:55:18 pm »
Maybe just popped a wheel over the edge and gravity did the rest.

Tiger

Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #21 on: 10 September, 2008, 06:54:50 pm »
Seems fairly obvious he swerved to avoid the cyclist on the bicycle there.  Have they found the cyclist at all?

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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #22 on: 11 September, 2008, 09:26:43 am »
Harrr, harr, harrrr. What a wag. Well, it sounds like wag I think.
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Re: 4x4 versus stream
« Reply #23 on: 16 September, 2008, 03:04:59 am »
The open door suggest the occupant/s got out safely. I would have thought avoiding a head-on was the likeliest cause - maybe the absence of skid marks is down to ABS? No, that usually leaves little dash-dash marks, doesn't it. Oncoming and brake failure then? Or a blind drunk driver? Or a tussle at the wheel? In-car family or marital squabble gets out of hand? Assassination?
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