Author Topic: Shed mending  (Read 5461 times)

Tim Hall

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Shed mending
« on: 21 May, 2017, 05:23:09 pm »
Problem 1: Old shed with ship lap(?) type boarding.  Boarding on one side has rotted, leaving great holes for entry of wind, rain ect ect.
Problem 2: Thicket of brambles, triffids and other vegetation hard up against rotten shed wall.
Problem 3: Shed is also against boundary of neighbouring property.
Problem 4: Want I really want to do is replace the ship lap from the inside. I can reach out through the gap, nailing as I go, but the last two will be tricky, the last one impossible.  Is there a clever Shed Mender's Trick to allow mer to achieve a wholesome shed?
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #1 on: 21 May, 2017, 05:34:43 pm »
Leave 18" maintenance gap when siting shed.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #2 on: 21 May, 2017, 05:42:34 pm »
I may have this problem to deal with soon, though I can nail from theoutside.  Might it be possible to fit some sort of flange, or strips of wood to the back of the last piece, so that you can nail it to the inside of the frame, from the inside?


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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #3 on: 21 May, 2017, 06:03:08 pm »
Lift shed, move to centre of the garden, repair, return shed to original position.

Job done.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #4 on: 21 May, 2017, 06:03:44 pm »
I had a 8' by 6' shed with a rotting floor..

.. and a bit of gentle lifting revealed that the walls were not nailed to the floor..

So I took the roof panels off, then tipped the shed over onto its side.

Would that give you a wall that had temporarily become a ceiling, and could then be worked on? [your rotting wall having in effect done a 'garage-door' type manouvre]

'Assembly is the reverse of disassembly', etc.

You could also deal with the brambles, triffids, etc while the shed superstructure is resting on its side, out of the way??

ETA: cross-post with Tiermat, and similar strategy!

Re: Shed mending
« Reply #5 on: 21 May, 2017, 06:07:09 pm »
Lift shed, move to centre of the garden, repair, return shed to original position.

Job done.

I remember doing exactly this for my dad's shed about forty years ago.   Six of us lifted it and carried it about ten yards, settled it in the middle of the garden lawn and set to work on repairs.  Once done we just lifted it again and carried it back to it's base.   We were fortunate because it was only inaccessible along one side making the whole lift and move job a piece of cake.

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #6 on: 21 May, 2017, 07:51:17 pm »
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #7 on: 22 May, 2017, 10:33:03 am »
Thoughts:

Long thing carriage bolt - head to outside, bolt right through. Could be tricky if you don't have enough of a gap

adhesive like NoMoreNails - drill holes in board and thread cable ties or similar through to make loops to act as temp handles, smear adhesive at contact points, pull board into position using loops and hold with loops as you can (get creative with a bit of lath or something on the inside.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #8 on: 22 May, 2017, 10:55:02 am »
Sheds are heavy and old ones fall to bits easily.

However if you could remove the damaged wall leaving the rest of the structure as is, you could repair it and put it back.  Possibly do it as 2 sections.

If in so doing it fell to bits you'd know that really you needed a new shed before Storm Gertrude arrives.

 
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #9 on: 26 May, 2017, 12:27:45 pm »
My father put an​ shed on barrow wheels to move it down the garden.  It was a large shed, 16x12' irrc. There was a lot of 4x2 used  to internally cross brace it. Jacking and levering onto bricks and blocks, not lifting got the wheels on and back off again. I was the boy who pushed the blocks in while dad did the levering. 'Give me a lever and fulcrum and I  will move the earth'

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #10 on: 26 May, 2017, 02:46:38 pm »
Shed on wheels?  That's a caravan, isn't it?   ;D

Re: Shed mending
« Reply #11 on: 26 May, 2017, 04:33:07 pm »
..or a bathing machine.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #12 on: 26 May, 2017, 04:57:51 pm »
Shed on wheels?  That's a caravan, isn't it?   ;D

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #13 on: 26 May, 2017, 05:06:21 pm »
How about using Onduline panels which may give more space for easier working when hung vertically.  http://www.wickes.co.uk/search?text=onduline  Towards the end of the fixing guide (in downloads), vertical hanging is shown https://onduline.co.uk/videos-downloads/#

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #14 on: 27 May, 2017, 07:27:34 am »
I recently completely refurbed my shed - 18X12. the walls against the fence I simply rebuilt inside with heavy ply, and then filled the cavity with expanding foam to fix and insulate the structure. The exterior appearance is irrelevant if it has fence against it so extruding foam does not matter. Foam is waterproof and stable. (I bought bulk cylinders online form a specialist supplier) Where walls are visible I clad over with new log lap and lined out/foamed in the same way. reinforced roof trusses and lined likewise, and dropped a vellum skylight in. Voila, old shed is now swanky outdoor studio. Also drilled down through base and foam filled the fox den that was causing the floor to sag.

To move a shed, those lorry webbing ratchets are brill. all you need is something solid (tree/car) to anchor to, get webbing round the shed with suitable reinforcement   to spread the load and then winch it out on some batten 'rails'. they have amazing weight load capability. Empty sheds slide.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #15 on: 27 May, 2017, 07:44:50 am »
My technique for moving heavy stuff is rollers.  e.g. woodburning stove

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #16 on: 27 May, 2017, 08:24:02 am »
I put a 10' by 6' shed on top of my VW golf and drove through Bristol, they don't weigh much.

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #17 on: 27 May, 2017, 10:15:25 am »
Is the Ripley recommendation followed by replacement shed re-sited to allow room for all around maintenance of the walls affordable?
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #18 on: 27 May, 2017, 10:59:10 am »
I recently completely refurbed my shed - 18X12. the walls against the fence I simply rebuilt inside with heavy ply, and then filled the cavity with expanding foam to fix and insulate the structure. The exterior appearance is irrelevant if it has fence against it so extruding foam does not matter. Foam is waterproof and stable. (I bought bulk cylinders online form a specialist supplier) Where walls are visible I clad over with new log lap and lined out/foamed in the same way. reinforced roof trusses and lined likewise, and dropped a vellum skylight in. Voila, old shed is now swanky outdoor studio. Also drilled down through base and foam filled the fox den that was causing the floor to sag..

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #19 on: 27 May, 2017, 06:55:56 pm »
Apologies for the thread hijack...

How difficult would it be to shorten a shed? I have space for a 6 X 7.5 foot pent roof shed and a 6 X 8 would be so much cheaper than a custom size.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #20 on: 29 May, 2017, 09:24:48 am »
Dead easy. just cut and nail.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #21 on: 29 May, 2017, 10:16:22 am »
Yes as above. Remove the battens carefully then put them onto the shortened walls and roof. If they get knackered your shed will eventually fall apart.

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #22 on: 29 May, 2017, 10:39:04 am »
Problem 1: Old shed with ship lap(?) type boarding.  Boarding on one side has rotted, leaving great holes for entry of wind, rain ect ect.
Problem 2: Thicket of brambles, triffids and other vegetation hard up against rotten shed wall.
Problem 3: Shed is also against boundary of neighbouring property.
Problem 4: Want I really want to do is replace the ship lap from the inside. I can reach out through the gap, nailing as I go, but the last two will be tricky, the last one impossible.  Is there a clever Shed Mender's Trick to allow mer to achieve a wholesome shed?

A little research suggests that shiplap is build from the bottom up, so the last ones will be at the top of the wall. Could you pre-drill the cladding and the uprights so that you could screw them from the inside? That would leave the screw point protruding unless you cut it to fit flush or use a screw slightly short of the combined depth.
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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #23 on: 30 May, 2017, 03:03:03 pm »
Fit the last couple of pieces of shiplap using u-bolts and plates.

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Re: Shed mending
« Reply #24 on: 31 May, 2017, 06:44:07 am »
I recently completely refurbed my shed - 18X12. the walls against the fence I simply rebuilt inside with heavy ply, and then filled the cavity with expanding foam to fix and insulate the structure. The exterior appearance is irrelevant if it has fence against it so extruding foam does not matter. Foam is waterproof and stable. (I bought bulk cylinders online form a specialist supplier) Where walls are visible I clad over with new log lap and lined out/foamed in the same way. reinforced roof trusses and lined likewise, and dropped a vellum skylight in. Voila, old shed is now swanky outdoor studio. Also drilled down through base and foam filled the fox den that was causing the floor to sag..

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