Author Topic: Why fixie chains are noisy  (Read 3170 times)

rogerzilla

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Why fixie chains are noisy
« on: 29 June, 2008, 09:33:14 pm »
I think it's finally dawned on me.  Let's say (hypothetically of course) that I fitted a 16T freewheel to the other side of a flip-flop hub for a rider who is absolutely no relation to me and never intends to use it anyway, unless one of his legs falls off towards the end of the Dun Run.

This is a good quality Shimano freewheel - not your £3 Halfrauds jobbie - and yet it still has the characteristic wobble when freewheeling that every other freewheel and freehub ever made shows.  This, I think, is why even a new track chain runs quietly on a freewheel - that slop means it's moving to engage the chain smoothly.  A fixed cog cannot move at all - it's screwed tight against the shoulder of the hub threads - so it needs to wear into the chain, and vice-versa.  Perfect chainline helps, but the freewheel is always going to be quieter with new components.

Is this a design feature or serendipity?  Who knows.
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Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #1 on: 29 June, 2008, 09:36:21 pm »
What's a "good quality" freewheel? O:-)

rogerzilla

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Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #2 on: 29 June, 2008, 09:38:44 pm »
What's a "good quality" freewheel? O:-)

Something that costs more than a fiver.

A White Industries one is £60 (£70 for the super-duper version), but that's getting silly.
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Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #3 on: 29 June, 2008, 11:32:43 pm »

Air Dancer

Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #4 on: 30 June, 2008, 11:00:25 am »
That'll be a good "running clearance" that be.  ;D

bobajobrob

Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #5 on: 30 June, 2008, 11:04:39 am »
I don't think the Shimano freewheels are very good quality. They only have 2 pawls, not that that's a bad thing in itself, but something like an ACS claw has 4. Shimano and ACS are both cheap stamped jobs.

As for chainline, mine's as near as can be but I still get a racket from my 3/32 EAI, and have done since new. I noticed the same noise coming from Crumbing Nick's EAI on Saturday and his chainline looked good too.

clarion

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Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #6 on: 30 June, 2008, 12:13:02 pm »
Um...my fixie is as quiet as can be.  Thanks to it's builder, of course - I've not fettled it ;D
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Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #7 on: 30 June, 2008, 03:48:06 pm »
All 1/8 or 3/32 are quiet compared to inch pitch!

rogerzilla

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Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #8 on: 30 June, 2008, 06:40:54 pm »
All 1/8 or 3/32 are quiet compared to inch pitch!
My Fuji is pretty much silent now, but the Frankendale still rattles like a good 'un.
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Re: Why fixie chains are noisy
« Reply #9 on: 02 July, 2008, 05:50:29 pm »
Am now running a half-link chain on my track bike and it's certainly more quiet than the 1/8th I had on there before.