Post by: Cmiller on 26 February, 2016, 09:53:32 pm
Via Jacquie Schlitter-
"It's official. Amanda Coker's HAMR application is on its way. I cannot wait to see what Alicia Searvogel and Amanda have in store for us this year. I wholeheartedly support both of them in their endeavors and hope this will inspire more women to get out and push their limits. 2 delightfully determined women, 2 very different age groups represented. I can't wait and I hope to ride many miles with both of them throughout the next year."
Post by: crowriver on 26 February, 2016, 10:08:03 pm
Looks like The Year is taking off as a new challenge for cyclists...
Post by: clarion on 27 February, 2016, 10:40:51 am
Post by: mattc on 27 February, 2016, 10:42:41 am
Looks like The Year is taking off as a new challenge for cyclists...It's the new LEJOG !
Post by: Nuncio on 09 March, 2016, 12:55:54 pm
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This year I will be bicycling in an attempt to set/break the Women's Highest Annual Mileage Record (HAMR)!
For 365 days I will be cycling in an effort to break the 78 year old world record. The record was set by Billie Dovey in 1938 at a total of 29,603.7 miles.
I will be attempting to break the world record starting in the month of April 2016. This challege came to my attention after several fellow cyclists mentioned that I should go for the world record.
The reason for setting up this page is to help with the costs of daily essentials and any unforeseen costs associated with my HAMR attempt.
A little bit about me:
First of all, I LOVE cycling! It all began at the age of 15 when my parents got me my first road bicycle. From that point on cycling has been a major aspect in my life. After racing and training for a couple years, in 2010 I competed in my first Juniors Road Cycling Nationals, gaining a whole new love for the sport. After a lot of hard work, I was offered and accepted a cycling scholarship to college. The month before college started, I began suffering a litany of misfortune that continued over a span of years. Resulting in:
Two seperate reconstructive shoulder/clavicle surgeries, spinal surgery, PFO closure heart surgery, closed Traumatic Brain Injury, and several other injuries. Unfortunately these events kept me from returning to college, being on the cycling team, and competing in races.
This past summer (in an attempt to put all my bad luck behind me), I successfully rode my bicycle from Florida to California in 32 days of riding. During my cross country trip I rekindled my love for cycling again and have continued to keep the fire burning! Since, I have become a part of the Ultra Marathon Cycling Association and recently completed my first ultra cycling race, which validated my disire to go for the world record. So, wheels are rolling and here I go!
Any donation will be greatly appreciated and put to good use. Thank you for reading my story and feel free to follow along with my year long endeavor!
Thank you for your time and support!
-Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on 09 March, 2016, 04:35:38 pm
Post by: jsabine on 09 March, 2016, 11:42:39 pm
Having looked at their privacy (ha!) policy I'm not touching gofundme with a twentyfootmile pole.
Didn't look that offensive. They set cookies; they'll send you junk (but you can opt out); they'll share your data with other parts of the business or with partners to provide the service; they'll flog aggregated user data to the highest bidder. So far, so standard - and if all you're doing is sending someone a fiver, your footprint with them will be pretty small.
Post on their forums or share your facebook details, and that's a different ballgame - but if all you're doing is sending someone a fiver, why would you do anything more?
Post by: SoreTween on 10 March, 2016, 09:49:28 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 March, 2016, 10:12:30 am
It was the part where they help themselves to all your contacts in any device you log in from that put me off. Didn't read beyond that.
Do you mean this:
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Mobile Device Address Book: The Services may also collect the Personal Data relating to third parties stored in your mobile device address book, including without limitation email addresses and phone numbers. Depending on your mobile device operating system, the Services may request your permission to access such Personal Data.
That is a bit intrusive.
Post by: SoreTween on 10 March, 2016, 10:22:31 am
If anyone has a PayPal address for Amanda ping a pm please.
Post by: rafletcher on 10 March, 2016, 12:07:46 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 10 March, 2016, 01:55:37 pm
If anyone has a PayPal address for Amanda ping a pm please.
She's working on setting one up right now. I'll PM you once she's finished.
Post by: Justin(e) on 10 March, 2016, 02:23:41 pm
May != Will.
I assume you mean == rather than !=
Quite different meanings. But I agree that this clause is pretty noxious.
Post by: jsabine on 11 March, 2016, 01:11:43 am
It was the part where they help themselves to all your contacts in any device you log in from that put me off. Didn't read beyond that.
Do you mean this:QuoteMobile Device Address Book: The Services may also collect the Personal Data relating to third parties stored in your mobile device address book, including without limitation email addresses and phone numbers. Depending on your mobile device operating system, the Services may request your permission to access such Personal Data.
That is a bit intrusive.
Indeed. For some reason I'd completely missed that when I had a look. (Probably too busy being a smart-arse to read it properly. Bah.)
I presume, though, that it's the mobile app which does so, and that you're only likely to be installing the app if you want to raise funds yourself, in which case allowing it to automagically generate emails to all your contacts *may* be something you actually want it to do.
I'd be a little cross if merely using the website to send someone a fiver from my phone resulted in all my contacts being swiped - but I'd be at least as cross at my device manufacturer as at Gofundme.
Post by: SoreTween on 11 March, 2016, 01:20:08 pm
I assume you mean == rather than !=No. I meant may is not equal to will so there's no assurance at all permission will be sought.
Quite different meanings. But I agree that this clause is pretty noxious.
Post by: Cmiller on 12 March, 2016, 02:12:32 pm
https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/?fref=ts)
Post by: Clemo on 12 March, 2016, 08:53:08 pm
Post by: a.coker on 14 March, 2016, 08:35:12 pm
Post by: Basil on 14 March, 2016, 08:57:20 pm
Looking forward to following your exploits. :thumbsup:
Post by: clarion on 15 March, 2016, 06:57:50 am
Post by: tonyh on 15 March, 2016, 07:24:27 am
Post by: Hummers on 29 March, 2016, 06:59:10 am
Hello everyone! Amanda Coker here. I just wanted to say hi and thank you for beginning to follow and support my year long endeavor. Looking forward to discussing cycling with you all! :thumbsup:
Good luck Amanda :thumbsup:
H
Post by: TimC on 29 March, 2016, 07:11:45 am
Post by: Clemo on 28 April, 2016, 11:36:01 am
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Post by: Cmiller on 03 May, 2016, 01:03:07 pm
Her Gofundme page says she would be starting this month. But it's only raised $800 so maybe money is an issue.
She's just getting some personal things taken care of before she starts. Shouldn't be long now.
Post by: a.coker on 12 May, 2016, 10:51:27 pm
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13221702_1097632290302608_3458981814567234461_n.jpg?oh=ab4a197d71aee4d4ae6275157cd92da8&oe=57ACD53F)
-Amanda
Post by: tonyh on 12 May, 2016, 11:03:07 pm
Good luck Amanda!
Post by: TimC on 12 May, 2016, 11:05:38 pm
Post by: hatler on 12 May, 2016, 11:19:25 pm
Post by: peliroja on 13 May, 2016, 07:27:42 am
Post by: Clemo on 13 May, 2016, 09:38:02 am
Hello everyone! I just wanted to let you all know that I will be starting this Sunday, May 15th! Looking forward to an exciting year and thank you for following along.Excellent! good luck enjoy your year :thumbsup:
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13221702_1097632290302608_3458981814567234461_n.jpg?oh=ab4a197d71aee4d4ae6275157cd92da8&oe=57ACD53F)
-Amanda
Post by: clarion on 13 May, 2016, 09:59:23 am
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Post by: Basil on 13 May, 2016, 10:27:41 am
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 13 May, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Post by: Jabba on 13 May, 2016, 01:57:58 pm
Post by: zigzag on 13 May, 2016, 11:42:41 pm
Post by: SoreTween on 14 May, 2016, 02:30:33 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 14 May, 2016, 03:32:20 pm
Post by: SoreTween on 15 May, 2016, 07:19:58 am
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 May, 2016, 11:04:58 am
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Post by: Cmiller on 15 May, 2016, 11:59:26 pm
Hope all is well Amanda and you are able to start your attempt soon :thumbsup:
She started this morning and I Rode with her for a good part of the day. When I left she was well over 200 miles and still hungry for more :o
(Update- 250.14 miles- https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1170226835 (https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1170226835) )
Post by: paul851 on 16 May, 2016, 07:09:01 am
Paul
Post by: L CC on 16 May, 2016, 08:25:12 am
Post by: red marley on 16 May, 2016, 08:49:18 am
She's very much following Kurt's style (and location – repeats around Flatwood Park), but even faster and further.
I've updated the OYTT/HAM'R/Guinness visualization page to show Amanda and Kajsa's progress - http://gicentre.org/oytt
Post by: rabbit on 16 May, 2016, 05:34:09 pm
Keep it up, and best of luck for the year. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Cmiller on 17 May, 2016, 01:07:01 am
https://www.strava.com/activities/578519402
Post by: L CC on 17 May, 2016, 07:25:47 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 May, 2016, 08:20:14 am
:oThis one is going to be too exhausting to follow.
Post by: red marley on 17 May, 2016, 08:32:34 am
Amanda's and Kajsa's ride objectives are quite different in many ways but at the rate she is going Amanda may well overtake Kajsa's annual total before the end of 2016. I wonder if this will encourage Kajsa to up her miles over summer. An interesting year ahead I think.
Post by: rafletcher on 17 May, 2016, 11:50:13 am
Amanda's and Kajsa's ride objectives are quite different in many ways but at the rate she is going Amanda may well overtake Kajsa's annual total before the end of 2016. I wonder if this will encourage Kajsa to up her miles over summer. An interesting year ahead I think.
I think, as you say, their objectives - and therefore their motivations - are quite different. And so are their backgrounds, with Amanda having already done plenty of long distance riding. So I would anticipate little change from Kajsa - there's no chance (IMO obvs) of her doing repeated 200 mile days - not least, as we noted during Kurt's and Steve's rides, because the terrain and (generally) weather are vastly different, but so are their aims.
Post by: Phil W on 17 May, 2016, 11:58:32 pm
https://www.facebook.com/alicia.searvogel/posts/10154122756692591
Amanda wanted to watch Kurt's butt for a while. Brief comment on whether she's going after Kurt's record. Nice humorous start.
Post by: Cmiller on 18 May, 2016, 02:49:58 am
https://www.strava.com/activities/579655046 (https://www.strava.com/activities/579655046)
Post by: Jabba on 18 May, 2016, 05:18:38 pm
Looks like this little bit of USAnia will become the new home of distance record breaking, watch out Kurt!! ;D
Post by: Cmiller on 19 May, 2016, 02:55:49 am
https://www.strava.com/activities/580683146 (https://www.strava.com/activities/580683146)
Post by: red marley on 19 May, 2016, 07:51:31 am
Post by: Nuncio on 19 May, 2016, 07:53:46 am
(But lets not forget she's only done just over 1% in terms of time for the challenge. There will be uphill stretches, even if not many of them will be topographical.)
Post by: Cmiller on 19 May, 2016, 01:17:24 pm
I've just read more on Amanda's recent history (CMiller may wish to elaborate) which makes her record attempt all the more impressive. It would appear she is planning to stick to Florida all year round including the stifling summer months and breezy hurricane season.
In her own words from her FB "about" page-
"I have been cycling competitively since the age of 16. At age 17, I was given a cycling scholarship to ride on a college team. During the next Summer in 2011, at the age of 18, I was hit from behind by a car traveling at 55 mph while riding my bike. My Dad, who was riding with me was also struck. I suffered a traumatic brain injury, spinal injury, broken leg, and numerous other tissue related injury. My Dad suffered a fractured spine. These injuries and resulting surgeries kept me from cycling on my college team and forced me in to a sedentary lifestyle for 2 years while my body tried to recover. It also greatly affected my entire family as my Dad was not able to go back to work. In 2015, in an effort to regain my fitness and reignite my cycling passion, my parents agreed to support me for a month while I rode 2,935 miles across the country solo on a bicycle. I successfully completed this attempt and returned home hungry for the next challenge.
I am now 23 years old. The UMCA Highest Annual Mileage Record was brought to my attention in late 2015. I feel that attempting this new record and at the same time breaking the documented world record set in 1938 might inspire others who have experienced similar setbacks in life. Recovering from a traumatic brain injury is no easy task but there is support available."
Post by: Justin(e) on 19 May, 2016, 01:27:02 pm
Allez Amanda.
Post by: Cmiller on 19 May, 2016, 01:35:29 pm
Post by: Clemo on 19 May, 2016, 05:08:29 pm
Wow, looking forward to watching Amanda's year.
Post by: clarion on 19 May, 2016, 05:21:14 pm
Post by: Justin(e) on 21 May, 2016, 06:28:18 am
Amanda could take the rest of the week off and still be on World Record pace.
Post by: NeilH on 21 May, 2016, 07:53:36 am
What are the updates on this challenge?
Day 5 - 211miles, 11h11m moving time.
Day 6 - 231miles, 12h16m moving time.
Post by: Cmiller on 21 May, 2016, 12:53:43 pm
What are the updates on this challenge?
Amanda could take the rest of the week off and still be on World Record pace.
My (unofficial) numbers as of day 6-
1392.7 Total miles
232.1 Daily Average
906.1 Over Womans Record Avg pace
142.3 Over Men's Record Avg pace
Post by: zigzag on 21 May, 2016, 01:01:13 pm
as for your and your dad's injuries - it's so sad.. big and long hug from me for your drive and determination.
Post by: andyoxon on 21 May, 2016, 01:33:15 pm
Post by: Justin(e) on 22 May, 2016, 08:10:17 am
Some years ago when Paula Radcliffe was setting WR's, it was hypothesised that women marathon runners may be able to surpass the men. Extrapolating from the reduction in women's WR marathon pace, it was possible to predict the year when they would beat the boys. However, it seems that Paula's times were an anomaly. The men kept on getting better, and the women haven't got close.
The arguments in favour of this gender neutrality (/advantage) were that the physiology women need to cope with extreme pain during childbirth might pre-suppose an advantage in endurance events. It would be fascinating if Amanda could go further than Kurt and Steve. Maybe even further than the great Tommy.
This would be the cat that put the pigeon into world sports. What are the odds? I reckon less than 5000 to 1. Allez Amanda.
Post by: tonyh on 22 May, 2016, 08:31:03 am
Post by: red marley on 22 May, 2016, 08:40:32 am
Gomanda!
Post by: andyoxon on 22 May, 2016, 09:33:59 am
Post by: TimC on 22 May, 2016, 09:49:52 am
Actually, I think it's unlikely this record will ever attract the very strongest cyclists who could push it to the point where male/female differences become relevant. (And I think that point was discussed before). It's probably a little bit too far off the mainstream for that - thank goodness! If it ever did, it would be about interminable laps of an off-road flat circuit (a retired motor racing track, perhaps) and the spectator interest would be seriously limited!
Post by: woollypigs on 22 May, 2016, 11:26:54 am
I just just hope that starting so hard will not come back to haunt her. But this might be her taking it easy as she warms up, just like TG and Tarzan did.
Though as Auntie Helen said riding around in "circles" for a year would do my motivation/head in.
Post by: Justin(e) on 24 May, 2016, 04:40:19 pm
I don't have a Strava membership.
Post by: Cmiller on 24 May, 2016, 04:52:46 pm
Updates?
I don't have a Strava membership.
Here's a spreadsheet we're using to track her progress-
https://goo.gl/reemOY (https://goo.gl/reemOY)
Post by: red marley on 24 May, 2016, 05:16:11 pm
Updates?
I don't have a Strava membership.
See also the Visualizing the OYTT thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=87407.msg2032910#msg2032910) and gicentre.org/oytt (http://gicentre.org/oytt/) which I am currently updating daily.
Post by: red marley on 24 May, 2016, 05:27:55 pm
Here's a spreadsheet we're using to track her progress-
https://goo.gl/reemOY (https://goo.gl/reemOY)
I may have misinterpreted the spreadsheet but I think there may be a small error in the 'Womens Record Pace +/-' calculation that is underestimating Amanda's progress - see hidden column M which I would expect to have a fixed figure of 81.1 (Dovey's annual average daily distance) throughout. Unless this figure is showing something else?
Post by: Cmiller on 24 May, 2016, 05:34:58 pm
Not a spreadsheet guy by a longshot... :)
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 May, 2016, 08:21:54 am
Post by: andyoxon on 25 May, 2016, 08:45:12 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 25 May, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
I politely asked on the 'gomiles' facebook page if all logistical issues had been sorted but didn't get a response. No information about which adjudicating body Miles thinks he's using for his restart.
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 25 May, 2016, 01:40:15 pm
On a different point .. we provided huge sums for Steve to see him thru his year .. although any residual surplus was going to an undefined charity .. ( and in my opinion there must have been a large amount in hand when he stopped ) .. would it be a nice gesture by Steve to support Amanda with a worthwhile sized donation... your views please.
Post by: hulver on 25 May, 2016, 02:16:35 pm
But Amanda's spot tracker is not exciting to study as she goes round and round Flatwoods wilderness park.I would be quite happy for Steve to use that money to live on while he recovers from his attempt, my donations didn't have a mileage condition attached :)
On a different point .. we provided huge sums for Steve to see him thru his year .. although any residual surplus was going to an undefined charity .. ( and in my opinion there must have been a large amount in hand when he stopped ) .. would it be a nice gesture by Steve to support Amanda with a worthwhile sized donation... your views please.
If he has any spare though, I think that would be a good suggestion.
Post by: Basil on 25 May, 2016, 03:13:13 pm
Post by: red marley on 25 May, 2016, 03:19:16 pm
More generally, I'd encourage anyone hoping Amanda breaks the record to donate via her GoFundMe page (https://www.gofundme.com/goamandacoker)
Post by: teethgrinder on 26 May, 2016, 08:05:00 am
Fantastic riding!
I just just hope that starting so hard will not come back to haunt her. But this might be her taking it easy as she warms up, just like TG and Tarzan did.
Though as Auntie Helen said riding around in "circles" for a year would do my motivation/head in.
Looking at Amanda's rides on Strava so far, it looks to me that she'll be able to sustain what she is doing but there's no guarantee and I don't know all the facts.
What really gets you is the day to day grind that erodes your strength.
I wasn't taking it easy at the start, I had dark, cold and ice to contend with. Having to stop to check that the road ahead wasn't icy at night time did slow me down quite a lot. On one day I was riding with a journalist and at the end of the day I told him to stop very slowly. We were both riding on ice. We walked on the grass verge to get past it.
The real difference between Amanda, Kurt and I, is that Amanda got fit before she started. My original plan was that I'd get faster during the year. I did, but not by as much as I expected. Kurt also seemed to think the same as his original plan was that he'd get faster during the year. What Kurt actually did was to start faster than he expected, then slow down, then speed up again at the end. Kurt said that he wasn't especially fit when he started.
Amanda's circuit looks very good too. Generally, I think circuits aren't ideal because you're guaranteed a headwind and I prefer to fight the wind when it's eased off in the evening rather than in the middle of the day when it is stronger. But Amanda's circuit looks to be well sheltered from the wind and very flat. Perhaps too flat? I (and a number of others) think that very gently undulating is better. But it seems to be working for Amanda.
Whether Amanda can keep it going remains to be seen, but from my point of view, I think she can.
The fact is that nobody knows the best way to do a Year Record attempt and all we have so far is theories and ideas that haven't been properly tested and nowhere near enough attempts taken place to have any real data to work from. I think it will take at least 20 years before we have any real clues, let alone know the best way.
Speed does make a difference but also so does the number of hours you can ride per day without doing too much. There's a balance between the two. I think I may have worked out my limit for number of hours, but then again, that isn't certain. I think that Kajsa was, and probably still is at her limit for number of hours per day, even though she is spending as many hours riding as I was resting. Kajsa did have a very hard time during April and into early May. I saw first hand what she was going through and it really was very tough, but she has pulled through. I expect that some people don't think that Kajsa's mileages are very impressive by comparison, but all things considered, I have a lot of respect and admiration for Kajsa.
It's not impossible that Amanda could go through something similar. Kurt also had a hard time after several months, whereas I had a forced break. Sort of.
I wonder if I could actually ride an hour or two longer each day if I was stronger. Not something I would account for in planning going by the information I have so far, but it can't be ruled out.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 May, 2016, 08:25:52 am
She's very young and that does help considerably with recovery. Young people heal and recover more quickly.
It's also true that the mental fortitude to tackle super-long-endurance events tends to come with experience and age. Only time will tell if Amanda has this.
Post by: Cmiller on 26 May, 2016, 05:24:45 pm
It's also true that the mental fortitude to tackle super-long-endurance events tends to come with experience and age. Only time will tell if Amanda has this.
She's got it, and in spades. I know it's rare for an ultracyclist her age, but as strong as she is on the bike there's no doubt that mental toughness is her biggest strength.
Post by: red marley on 27 May, 2016, 07:39:36 am
I must admit to being a little surprised at how little attention Amanda's WR attempt is getting from here and elsewhere. And I can't help but feel that gender may have something to do with it. I realise it's early days, but then so was Steve's and Kurt's and Miles' and Bruce's at the start and they seemed to have received much more attention. It is instructive to read the first few pages of the Kajsa thread which mentions the fact that her (relatively) modest target of 81 mpd may be the reason her rides were not capturing the attention that Kurt and Steve did. Now we have an outstandingly determined and strong athlete who is demonstrating a consistency and pace not seen by any other other modern rider. She may blow up in month three, which is a testing month for any OYTT challenger, not least in the stifling heat and humidity of a Florida July, but surely she's worth a little more cheering on the way? I notice that on Strava, Steve still received more than five times as many 'likes' for his seven minutes on the turbo trainer as Amanda did for her 233 miles on the same day.
Post by: tonyh on 27 May, 2016, 08:36:58 am
Go Amanda, that's astonishing performance!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 May, 2016, 08:41:42 am
Apologies, a mini-rant on its way...Some of us are scared to comment much in case she blows up. I check on her several times a day on facebook.
I must admit to being a little surprised at how little attention Amanda's WR attempt is getting from here and elsewhere. And I can't help but feel that gender may have something to do with it. I realise it's early days, but then so was Steve's and Kurt's and Miles' and Bruce's at the start and they seemed to have received much more attention. It is instructive to read the first few pages of the Kajsa thread which mentions the fact that her (relatively) modest target of 81 mpd may be the reason her rides were not capturing the attention that Kurt and Steve did. Now we have an outstandingly determined and strong athlete who is demonstrating a consistency and pace not seen by any other other modern rider. She may blow up in month three, which is a testing month for any OYTT challenger, not least in the stifling heat and humidity of a Florida July, but surely she's worth a little more cheering on the way? I notice that on Strava, Steve still received more than five times as many 'likes' for his seven minutes on the turbo trainer as Amanda did for her 233 miles on the same day.
I'd really love to see her take Kurt's record (all due respect to Kurt, I grew to really appreciate his attitude and humour throughout his year). It would be fantastic to see the record stretched further. If Amanda did this, it would be a huge two fingers in the air to the opponents of full-length pro races for women.
Post by: Chris S on 27 May, 2016, 08:43:01 am
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 27 May, 2016, 08:43:47 am
What is there to be said? She is going great guns right now but it is too early to call. Bruce started impressively too but fell in a screaming heap (for a couple of reasons). Remember, Kurt wobbled badly about 3 months into his year.
Post by: mattc on 27 May, 2016, 09:05:49 am
- Steve was a mate,
- He was breaking new ground,
- He was riding through places I knew (inluding my parish!).
- Kurt was "the opposition", so his progress was interesting (but his routes and other details rarely were).
- Steve and Kurt tried out most of the main variables, which we all debated at length, but we pretty much exhausted those debates*
- I got bored of the details of Kurt AND Steve later on. It was all just more 200+mile days, retracing known roads.
So I dont have anything _against_ Amanda's attempt - it's just not exciting me. I cant help that. :-\
*Steve's post yesterday backs this up a bit; there isnt enough evidence available to sustain any more detailed debates on tactics.
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 27 May, 2016, 09:11:42 am
I've put money towards Amanda's attempt but I've never ridden with her and am unlikely to ever meet her. I'll never go on Facebook and haven't done the Strava thing since she started, so the only information I have about her progress is here. There is no personal connection, so it is hard to feel too involved.
What is there to be said? She is going great guns right now but it is too early to call. Bruce started impressively too but fell in a screaming heap (for a couple of reasons). Remember, Kurt wobbled badly about 3 months into his year.
Match you .. and agree with you. YACFers .. can we find a few bob to help her .. her funding target is tiny compared with the support we poured into Steve.
Anybody settling in to a 365 day 20mph 215/220 miles a day challenge is a real endurance athlete . and deserves at the very least least huge respect .. if not a few bob to help.
Post by: Ivo on 27 May, 2016, 09:13:09 am
Post by: Justin(e) on 27 May, 2016, 11:22:28 am
I'm thinking much the same. I dont really have a *reason* to be following Amanda in detail.
- Steve was a mate,
- He was breaking new ground,
- He was riding through places I knew (inluding my parish!).
- Kurt was "the opposition", so his progress was interesting (but his routes and other details rarely were).
I made an effort last year to support Steve, because I have ridden with him and I wanted him to have personal success.
It is precisely because I followed the efforts last year that I have a passing interest in Amanda's attempt. However, I wont be doing the daily thing. I wish her all the best, and will follow from a distance. Part of me is trying to resist the temptation of the daily ritual of voyeurism.
Allez Amanda
Post by: rafletcher on 27 May, 2016, 12:13:04 pm
I150-200km/day. So that's not a *real* challenge. Amanda's rides are more of the superhuman kind.
Really? for 365 days straight? I'd call that a challenge.
As to Amanda's attempt, I just have no empathy with her as I'm not (like others) on facebook etc and have little knowledge of her. And frankly it's boring. Herculaen, but boring. Nothing to do with gender, I barely followed Kurt apart from Jo's graphs. And at least with Kajsa we get the occasional vlog to amuse and update us.
Post by: red marley on 28 May, 2016, 07:45:59 am
Post by: andyoxon on 28 May, 2016, 08:20:40 am
Post by: red marley on 28 May, 2016, 08:54:50 am
Post by: Feline on 28 May, 2016, 12:01:16 pm
Good luck Amanda! I will be truly amazed if you can keep up the pace you've been doing so far :o
Post by: andyoxon on 29 May, 2016, 08:20:04 am
Post by: rafletcher on 29 May, 2016, 09:22:09 am
Post by: Morrisette on 03 June, 2016, 09:16:14 am
I had actually met Steve and he was riding places I know so there was more interest for that reason. Nothing to do with gender (I'm a girl myself :))
I am amazed at all these riders!!
Post by: Basil on 04 June, 2016, 09:31:09 am
I've not commented much as I don't really have any comprehension of what she is doing, nor do I have anything knowledgeable or interesting to add to the discussion.
Is she piling it on now in order to take it a little easier later in the year? Or will she just keep going?
Is the human body and/or mind able to cope with a year of this?
Post by: yanto on 05 June, 2016, 09:16:25 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 June, 2016, 08:17:47 am
She isn't slowing down
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 07 June, 2016, 04:18:23 pm
Amanda has been keeping a brief daily diary on Facebook if you want to find out more about how she's doing. You don't need a Facebook account to read it: https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker
Facebookblockers at work now so can't follow :( Her mileage looks hugely impressive but, as others have pointed out, its a couple of months in when it seems to be hard to sustain. Fingers crossed though and will follow this thread for info.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 08 June, 2016, 08:02:11 am
Some little issue like tornadoes and stuff . . .
Storm abated later on so they relented and she fitted in a mere 160-odd miles for a short day.
Post by: Justin(e) on 08 June, 2016, 11:41:49 am
Her parents locked her bikes up and wouldn't let her ride!
Some little issue like tornadoes and stuff . . .
Storm abated later on so they relented and she fitted in a mere 160-odd miles for a short day.
Soft
Post by: yossarian22 on 09 June, 2016, 10:54:15 am
Post by: matthew on 09 June, 2016, 02:44:37 pm
I don't know what all this miles stuff means.... but 377 km yesterday! Jeez. Amazing
1 mile = 1.6 km approx.
Post by: Justin(e) on 09 June, 2016, 02:47:53 pm
Jeez. Amazing
We had a year of superlatives last year. I think that I am all superlatived out. Words can't express ....
Of wait, there is a word for that. Ineffable.
Post by: Ham on 09 June, 2016, 03:42:01 pm
Jeez. Amazing
We had a year of superlatives last year. I think that I am all superlatived out. Words can't express ....
Of wait, there is a word for that. Ineffable.
Sorry, that's not quite right, I can eff it.
It's fucking amazing.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 10 June, 2016, 08:09:07 am
Post by: Justin(e) on 10 June, 2016, 09:59:37 am
Hwyl
That's a great word. Not sure I'll be dropping into casual conversation in the next couple of days.
Post by: Gruby Mits on 10 June, 2016, 02:03:03 pm
I was thinking about this ref Kajsa (lack of enthusiasm on the forum) if anything... since her attempt could have been outshined by the more impressive attempt so far and fame of Amanda, but that is just a background thought of mine.
Personally I have little to add, but I am following both women eagerly. I feel more empathy towards the attempt of Kajsa as it is closer to the way of the original record, as it was Steve's vs the more "speed-bare-bone" approach of Kurt and Amanda.
The British ones to me seem more of an adventure the overseas one more a professional race. Both are great and as impressive and admirable... is just what floats your boat I guess. ;D
I do not think that if there is a lack of crowd clapping and cheering is due to Amanda being a woman, gender inequality is heavy in mainstream sports but would doubt it applies here (no issue of equal pay-sponsors or a lesser capable athlete right?! She is getting no retribution and is thrashing the previous male records so far it seems)
Maybe we have been spoiled with Steve, Kurt and now Kajsa to follow that the general attention is diluted and not the case of not interest in Amanda amazing progress, grit and guts?
Post by: Justin(e) on 11 June, 2016, 09:34:04 am
The British ones to me seem more of an adventure the overseas one more a professional race.
On that note, does anyone have an idea of what the split is between miles cycled on the bent v the upright?
I was one of those that disliked the inclusion of the bent. It went against my authenticity sensitivities. But hey, I'm getting old.
Post by: yossarian22 on 12 June, 2016, 05:14:48 am
But a look at her strava data shows that she is very familiar with the loop, has train up for the attempt and has plenty of company and support on her rides. Also she seems to be riding well-within herself.
Hardened, consistent, measured and tough.
I've got no doubt that TG's next attempt will have to target a distance greater than currently stands.
Part of me is sad. Long distance riding is "meant" to be something old people are better at, "endurance gets better with age". Not so sure about that now, and youth definitely recovers faster.
Post by: TimC on 12 June, 2016, 10:21:36 am
Post by: Phil W on 12 June, 2016, 10:30:01 am
Post by: Citizenfish on 12 June, 2016, 11:03:44 pm
Remember Tommy Godwin was 25 when he set the record. Endurance is far from just an older persons game.
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Post by: Phil W on 13 June, 2016, 09:51:36 pm
Nee to read your book again :-)Remember Tommy Godwin was 25 when he set the record. Endurance is far from just an older persons game.
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Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 14 June, 2016, 10:35:53 am
Post by: yossarian22 on 16 June, 2016, 12:59:02 pm
Post by: clarion on 16 June, 2016, 01:09:38 pm
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 June, 2016, 11:06:51 am
Post by: Cmiller on 18 June, 2016, 03:28:39 pm
She's reporting no soreness and is still wacking out consistent mega miles. Seems in really high spirits as well.
She really is "in the groove" at the moment, physically and mentally. She's very much enjoying herself and is more relaxed than I've seen her since before the start. I know that her support crew (mom and dad) has a lot to do with that. There's nothing like having two fully dedicated parents acting as your crew 24/7 for the duration.
Post by: mzjo on 19 June, 2016, 08:06:53 pm
Remember Tommy Godwin was 25 when he set the record. Endurance is far from just an older persons game.
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All the early pioneers of the french diagonals were young. I am not sure that George Grillot's tandem partner was much over 20 for Brest-Hendaye (will have to look that up, Roger Coffe or some name like that). They weren't doing it for 12months of course.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 22 June, 2016, 12:25:33 pm
Post by: rabbit on 22 June, 2016, 12:43:33 pm
Post by: Ian H on 22 June, 2016, 12:48:30 pm
... a good cushion...
...No soreness?...
Sorry. Having a silly five minutes. I hope she keeps going.
Post by: Legs on 22 June, 2016, 01:41:38 pm
Post by: Justin(e) on 22 June, 2016, 04:29:36 pm
No soreness? Oh to be young again :D
I don't care how young she is, she will be sore.
Brave enough to keep pushing through it.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 22 June, 2016, 08:36:51 pm
... a good cushion......No soreness?...
Sorry. Having a silly five minutes. I hope she keeps going.
Probably a Freudian slip. I'm suffering from a badly bruised behind at the moment courtesy of a slip in cleats prior to the Tan Hill 600. :facepalm: :o
Post by: Gabrielle260 on 01 July, 2016, 10:24:09 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 08 July, 2016, 11:59:00 pm
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 July, 2016, 09:05:38 am
21st June: 6.30am - 8.16pm
21st December: 7.03am 5.35pm
So 10h 32m daylight on the shortest day. I understand Florida to be sunnier in the winter than in the summer.
She may do some darkness riding, but it won't be a lot.
Post by: Justin(e) on 21 July, 2016, 12:34:23 pm
Post by: TimC on 21 July, 2016, 12:41:34 pm
Post by: woollypigs on 21 July, 2016, 12:46:26 pm
Post by: NeilH on 21 July, 2016, 02:17:42 pm
https://www.strava.com/activities/646867709
Post by: The French Tandem on 23 July, 2016, 05:32:08 pm
And she passed the half-distance mark on the way to Billie Dovey's record a couple of days ago ... two-and-a-half months into her challenge.
https://www.strava.com/activities/646867709
Someone could explain to me what is the meaning of the map shown on her strava page? She seems to ride on straight lines without following any real road.
Sorry if this is a dumb question!
Post by: andrew_s on 23 July, 2016, 06:04:44 pm
It may be that the info is coming from the Spot tracker rather than GPS downloads
Post by: The French Tandem on 23 July, 2016, 07:22:38 pm
Post by: Justin(e) on 24 July, 2016, 11:51:32 am
She's riding round and round a 7 or 8 mile circuit at 20 mph ...
My god, the tedium of it all.
I hope you has something interesting on her mp3 player.
Post by: DaveE128 on 25 July, 2016, 12:26:08 pm
She's riding round and round a 7 or 8 mile circuit at 20 mph and the Strava track is only showing 1 point every 10 minutes or so, which gives approximately 3 points per loop, which are joined by straight lines.I think it's just the thumbnails on the activity feed that use simplified data, presumably to speed up the loading of the activity feed page. If you open the activity you should see an accurate map. Definitely works like that on the mobile app, anyway.
It may be that the info is coming from the Spot tracker rather than GPS downloads
Post by: rafletcher on 25 July, 2016, 02:10:02 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 27 July, 2016, 12:22:44 am
My god, the tedium of it all.I can't disagree.
Possibly not as bad as doing a 24h on a velodrome (Marko Baloh, 3,615 laps, 903.76 km / 561.57 mi), but that's all you can say.
Anyway, the current score, as of last night (25th), is 16,361.36 miles in 72 days (227.24 mpd ave), not ridden less than 200 since 7th June.
Post by: woollypigs on 27 July, 2016, 07:33:02 am
... not ridden less than 200 since 7th June.yeah what is this about, just a weee bit of bad weather and she runs and hides, tch tch shakes head in disapproval, it was only a little tropical storm (Colin) that hung around with its heavy rain, tornado warnings and wind gusts :)
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 July, 2016, 08:34:39 am
The mind boggles.
Post by: Justin(e) on 28 July, 2016, 09:45:50 am
To celebrate turning 24, she rode 240.
The mind boggles.
I think I can see where you are going with this.
In the same way that there is an Eddington Number (miles = days), maybe there needs to be a Coker number (years = miles / 10).
(Edited for math error pointed out below.)
Surely her Coker number for that ride would then be 10 (miles in a day / age in years).
I'm hoping to push mine up to 10 in a year or two, right now it's just 7.3
Post by: Greenbank on 28 July, 2016, 09:52:58 am
I'm hoping to push mine up to 10 in a year or two, right now it's just 7.3
Post by: cygnet on 28 July, 2016, 03:54:03 pm
e.g. my best is higher than when Wilko set his 541mile 24hr record (although his 525 in 1997 would give him a CN of 15.9)
Probably Jonathan Schubert would have the highest (I think 19.1 from the ESCA 2014).
/Digression
What Amanda is doing month in month out (rather than a single day) is jaw-dropping
Post by: clarion on 29 July, 2016, 11:58:20 am
To beat that, I would have to ride about 350 miles*
* Risk Assessment: Impact 5; Likelihood 0; Overall Risk = No Chance!
Post by: red marley on 30 July, 2016, 08:03:22 am
Post by: clarion on 30 July, 2016, 07:00:43 pm
Post by: Phil W on 30 July, 2016, 07:50:23 pm
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 July, 2016, 08:56:15 pm
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 31 July, 2016, 11:13:10 am
She is amazing. People described Kurt and Steve as being "machines" but Amanda really does seem to churn out these miles mechanically.I would say she's churning them out with joie de vivre. Tales of water bottle fights, seeing her dad riding up ahead, sneaking up on him and dowsing him, dodging lightning strikes, spotting wildlife. She seems to be doing loops and extracting maximum joy out of it.
"To see a world in a grain of sand,"
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 July, 2016, 11:35:07 am
Post by: TimC on 31 July, 2016, 12:19:59 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 31 July, 2016, 06:34:57 pm
She seems to be doing loops and extracting maximum joy out of it.
"To see a world in a grain of sand,"
You've hit the nail right on the head. This is exactly why she's been so successful to date. Being a freak of nature on the bike hasn't hurt either... :-)
Post by: rabbit on 02 August, 2016, 02:31:15 pm
She seems to be doing loops and extracting maximum joy out of it.
"To see a world in a grain of sand,"
You've hit the nail right on the head. This is exactly why she's been so successful to date. Being a freak of nature on the bike hasn't hurt either... :-)
It is a fact that she has everything needed in bucketfulls! Positivity, genetics, support, good tactics and the weather.
I think it's great ;D
Post by: yossarian22 on 03 August, 2016, 07:30:03 am
And Nutella.
Post by: orraloon on 05 August, 2016, 08:39:16 am
Amanda's total is currently standing at 17,309 miles; Kajsa's is 18,194 miles. Based on their respective daily averages we should expect a 'catch' around next Friday.Catch is on for today. Amanda 50 behind as of time of typing this.
Post by: Justin(e) on 05 August, 2016, 02:49:23 pm
Catch is on for today. Amanda 50 behind as of time of typing this.
I've a mental image of Kajsa pedaling faster and looking over her shoulder.
Kind of like the breakaway being caught by the sprinter's trains, just before the line.
Post by: wajcgac on 05 August, 2016, 09:29:30 pm
Don't forget that assuming Kajsa betters Billie Flemings distance, and Guinness don't renege on there promise to her, then Kajsa will have her own Guinness World Record no matter how many miles Amanda rides.
Post by: Cmiller on 05 August, 2016, 09:40:13 pm
Don't forget that assuming Kajsa betters Billie Flemings distance, and Guinness don't renege on there promise to her, then Kajsa will have her own Guinness World Record no matter how many miles Amanda rides.
Amanda *is* going after Guinness record and has been assured by Guinness that they will accept the UMCA certification for the record if she breaks it.
Post by: wajcgac on 05 August, 2016, 10:10:17 pm
It's a mess to be honest.
After Kurt's attempt was completed Guinness decided that they would change their rules and accept Kurt's UMCA record as their own. This would imply that they would also be recognising Amanda's attempt as well for a Guinness women's record.
This was a month after Kajsa had started her own Guinness Record Attempt under much more stringent rules.
ie no drafting, no recumbents, same bike, no transfers etc.
Kajsa was rightly annoyed by this and sort assurances from Guinness that her record would stand as a Guinness Record. They agreed with her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3_72NT930I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3_72NT930I)
just after 2 mins in is the important part.
Good luck to both of them and hopefully they'll both get the recognition they deserve.
Post by: Cmiller on 05 August, 2016, 10:49:52 pm
Post by: wajcgac on 05 August, 2016, 11:54:02 pm
What I think she's talking about is Guinness's rules for the record when *they're* the certifying body. I've been told (multiple sources) that Guinness will also accept any UMCA certified yearly mileage record using UMCA rules and that no distinction would be made between records set under Guinness or the UMCA. Strange? yes, but that's Guinness for you...
I'm sure what you are saying is not wrong for those entering under UMCA rules and Amanda will have Kurts Guinness record if she exceeds his total, but it's more confusing than that.
Kajsa has been in direct contact with Guinness as she explains in her video - she has been explicitly told she will have a Guinness record (if she exceeds Billie Flemings total)
Only those entering under Guinness rules (which do not allow drafting during the attempt or the use of a recumbent etc) will be able to challenge her record in the future.
There will effectively be two Guinness Annual Mileage Records.
As you say Strange? yes, but that's Guinness for you - I think a lot of people following these record attempts on here, including myself would agree with you.
Post by: Cmiller on 06 August, 2016, 12:26:16 am
Only those entering under Guinness rules (which do not allow drafting during the attempt or the use of a recumbent etc) will be able to challenge her record in the future.
There will effectively be two Guinness Annual Mileage Records.
I wonder if Kajsa or anyone else has this in writing? And if that's the case, I wonder what Guinness's rationale is for giving Kurt the record over Tommy (under obviously different rules) but then splitting the woman's record into two separate records?
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 August, 2016, 08:09:28 am
Post by: SoreTween on 06 August, 2016, 09:41:23 am
Quote from: wajcgac
There will effectively be two Guinness Annual Mileage RecordsJust to be contrary I don't think it strange at all. 2 unfit blokes riding knobbly tyred gas pipe MTBs a mile home from the pub can feel the benefit of drafting. To me it is eminently sensible to have a drafted and undrafted record. The process by which we seem to be ending up with that was a mess and reflected very badly on Guinness but if the promises are kept the result is the right one IMO.
As you say Strange? yes, but that's Guinness for you - I think a lot of people following these record attempts on here, including myself would agree with you.
Post by: Jaded on 24 August, 2016, 10:35:17 pm
23,000 miles after 101 days. That's a 228 mile daily average. Nearly 15k over the women's current record and 2k over the men's one.
This is awesome.
Post by: Phil W on 24 August, 2016, 10:40:38 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 24 August, 2016, 10:53:17 pm
According to FB passed Billie Fleming's record today.
That's counting her training miles between Jan 1st and her start day in May. Miles that don't count towards the official record. If she stays near her current pace she should break it officially right about this same time next month.
Post by: NeilH on 31 August, 2016, 09:53:08 am
https://www.strava.com/activities/695029802
Post by: yossarian22 on 31 August, 2016, 12:29:30 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 31 August, 2016, 05:17:59 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 31 August, 2016, 10:32:38 pm
most likely banking some extra miles ahead of the arrival of "Hurricane Gaston", according to some speculation in the Strava comments.Gaston is heading for the Azores, and never got near heading for Florida.
It's most likely that it was for Tropical Storm Hermine (https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2016/Tropical-Depression-Nine)
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 September, 2016, 06:51:15 am
Are we sure she doesn't have motors in her legs?
Post by: toontra on 01 September, 2016, 08:34:04 am
Post by: Wowbagger on 01 September, 2016, 08:55:28 am
Post by: Jabba on 01 September, 2016, 11:33:01 am
Whilst the UCI have been scanning bikes at the Tour and Vuelta for motors maybe someone should scan Amanda :D :D
Post by: Mr Larrington on 01 September, 2016, 01:13:05 pm
most likely banking some extra miles ahead of the arrival of "Hurricane Gaston", according to some speculation in the Strava comments.Gaston is heading for the Azores, and never got near heading for Florida.
It's most likely that it was for Tropical Storm Hermine (https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2016/Tropical-Depression-Nine)
A man has just been on the telly here talking of 9+ inches of rain already in the Tampa Bay area with more to come today and overnight. Blowing a bit too. Sounds like a day to stay in bed with a good book.
Post by: orraloon on 02 September, 2016, 08:25:44 am
[Edited to express that for me a 55 miler is yip, fine, job done, happy with that :)]
Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 September, 2016, 01:51:52 pm
1: I am heading west as fast as my wheels can carry me, which is when they're not venting gas to the atmosphere of buried to the axles in a muddy ditch.
Post by: LMT on 12 September, 2016, 07:05:00 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 12 September, 2016, 07:53:53 pm
Currently 2376 miles up on Tarzan.
That's against his daily avg for the whole year. She's up more than 3300 miles from where he was on his Day 120.
Post by: Justin(e) on 13 September, 2016, 01:14:24 pm
Currently 2376 miles up on Tarzan.
That's against his daily avg for the whole year. She's up more than 3300 miles from where he was on his Day 120.
If she plans to step it up, then wow.
We've already seen that she has lifted in the last couple of weeks. However, her strength is in consistency. I reckon she'll keep it pretty flat. IMHO the problem with Steve's attempt was some blue sky thinking about stepping it up over the summer (aka Tommy).
Post by: mattc on 13 September, 2016, 02:22:22 pm
(assuming a moped doesn't break one's ankle in the spring.)
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 September, 2016, 09:36:28 am
Oh, and dodging an alligator on the road
Post by: Morrisette on 14 September, 2016, 10:23:45 am
Now I think they're at it again and they've made a female version!!!
*which was great by the way!!!
Post by: Clemo on 14 September, 2016, 11:38:26 am
I recall posting something about were we all sure that Tommy Godwin wasn't a machine sent from the future to make sure no one could ever break the record. After reading The Year* I revised this opinion to think that they had sent TWOterminatorscyclotrons as Bennett must have also been one.
Now I think they're at it again and they've made a female version!!!
*which was great by the way!!!
This is funny :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I have to say they have obviously made improvements to each version of cyclotron as Amanda is the best yet
Post by: mattc on 14 September, 2016, 11:54:15 am
cyclotron
/ˈsʌɪklətrɒn/
noun
Physics
noun: cyclotron; plural noun: cyclotrons
an apparatus in which charged atomic and subatomic particles are accelerated by an alternating electric field while following an outward spiral or circular path in a magnetic field.
:P
Post by: Justin(e) on 14 September, 2016, 03:07:15 pm
1) Physics. An apparatus for accelerating with an electric field charged atomic particles revolving in a magnetic field.
2) Sport. An individual sent from the future to cycle excessive distances.
English is a fluid language, and new homonyms are introduced all the time. ;)
Post by: Mr Larrington on 14 September, 2016, 11:36:38 pm
Post by: Phil W on 15 September, 2016, 10:38:38 pm
Ahem!
cyclotron
/ˈsʌɪklətrɒn/
noun
Physics
noun: cyclotron; plural noun: cyclotrons
an apparatus in which charged atomic and subatomic particles are accelerated by an alternating electric field while following an outward spiral or circular path in a magnetic field.
:P
Well Amanda does travel round in a circle in Earth's magnetic field. You can even see the initial acceleration track on her Strava map.
Post by: Morrisette on 16 September, 2016, 10:01:04 am
Ahem!
cyclotron
/ˈsʌɪklətrɒn/
noun
Physics
noun: cyclotron; plural noun: cyclotrons
an apparatus in which charged atomic and subatomic particles are accelerated by an alternating electric field while following an outward spiral or circular path in a magnetic field.
:P
Well Amanda does travel round in a circle in Earth's magnetic field. You can even see the initial acceleration track on her Strava map.
Exactly what I was thinking (ahem)!
Post by: Phil W on 16 September, 2016, 08:59:07 pm
Post by: orraloon on 17 September, 2016, 07:25:21 am
Post by: Pale Rider on 21 September, 2016, 02:34:05 pm
About 5-6 days away from exceeding Billie Fleming's record.
Amanda posted on facebook to say she expects to pass Billie's record at 9am local time today.
So she's now done it - assuming today's ride is going to plan.
https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/
Post by: TrevA on 21 September, 2016, 02:47:37 pm
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 21 September, 2016, 02:50:26 pm
Also, the record is only 'recorded' at the end of the attempt.
Kajsa will complete her year first, so she will be recorded (assuming she passes billie) as the new record holder by Guiness, regardless of Amanda's mileage.
Post by: HK on 21 September, 2016, 03:35:54 pm
Kajsa is not going for the HAMR record, she is riding under Guinness rules.
Also, the record is only 'recorded' at the end of the attempt.
Kajsa will complete her year first, so she will be recorded (assuming she passes billie) as the new record holder by Guiness, regardless of Amanda's mileage.
Given that Guiness have recognised Kurt's record I would guess they are going to have to do the same for the first women. So Kajsa claims holds the record to a few months then it goes to Amanda.
It must be very demoralising to be riding but already beaten.
Post by: red marley on 21 September, 2016, 03:54:29 pm
It may be that Guinness will list records in different categories (e.g. drafting vs non-drafting), so we don't yet know how history will view the various attempts. Personally, I view Kajsa's attempt, assuming she goes further than Billie, as a 'moral record' in its own right and far from second best.
In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.
Post by: Ian H on 21 September, 2016, 05:17:40 pm
In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.
Different age-group, though.
Post by: Cmiller on 22 September, 2016, 12:13:07 am
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569 (http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569)
Post by: Clemo on 22 September, 2016, 11:01:31 am
Local News Coverage- http://www.fox13news.com/good-day/206832964-video#.V-MQwBUq-Uo.facebook (http://www.fox13news.com/good-day/206832964-video#.V-MQwBUq-Uo.facebook):thumbsup: Wow
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569 (http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569)
Post by: HK on 22 September, 2016, 11:32:51 am
It may be that your first paragraph turns out to be true, but I don't think it is a given. At the point Kajsa embarked on the record, the Guinness requirements were much stricter than UMCA's (single bike, no drafting). When, after she started, Guinness subsequently recognised Kurt's record, Guinness got themselves into a bit of a pickle about what rules would be applied to Kajsa. Kajsa then agreed with them that she would continue her 'strict' version and has done since then.
It may be that Guinness will list records in different categories (e.g. drafting vs non-drafting), so we don't yet know how history will view the various attempts. Personally, I view Kajsa's attempt, assuming she goes further than Billie, as a 'moral record' in its own right and far from second best.
In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.
But Kajas has broken several of the Guiness rules as I believe Guiness altered their requirements as they decided to recognise UMCA.
Given the internet presence of both record attempts both riders and dot watchers know who has beaten Billie's distance. So even if Guiness were stupid enough not to recognise Amanda's record both Kajsa and the public know that the Guinness number isn't the world record which is what this is all about.
So yes, your point about moral victory is quite right. If I was Kajsa I'd be doubly mortified to come in at third place. Which ever way you look at the attempts none of them are easy and they are all valid.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 22 September, 2016, 12:48:35 pm
No she hasn't, you are completely and utterly wrong.It may be that your first paragraph turns out to be true, but I don't think it is a given. At the point Kajsa embarked on the record, the Guinness requirements were much stricter than UMCA's (single bike, no drafting). When, after she started, Guinness subsequently recognised Kurt's record, Guinness got themselves into a bit of a pickle about what rules would be applied to Kajsa. Kajsa then agreed with them that she would continue her 'strict' version and has done since then.
It may be that Guinness will list records in different categories (e.g. drafting vs non-drafting), so we don't yet know how history will view the various attempts. Personally, I view Kajsa's attempt, assuming she goes further than Billie, as a 'moral record' in its own right and far from second best.
In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.
But Kajas has broken several of the Guiness rules as I believe Guiness altered their requirements as they decided to recognise UMCA.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 22 September, 2016, 12:55:34 pm
Post by: Citizenfish on 22 September, 2016, 12:56:41 pm
Post by: red marley on 22 September, 2016, 01:29:02 pm
Post by: rafletcher on 22 September, 2016, 02:25:49 pm
But Kajas has broken several of the Guiness rules as I believe Guiness altered their requirements as they decided to recognise UMCA.
They (Guinness) did say they would change the rules to match UMCA some months into Kajsa's attempt (to accomodate Amanda's attempt), but when Kajsa complained - she'd been following the "no drafting, no recumbent" rules as originally agreed - they reverted to the original set for her record attempt. So Kajsa hadn't (and hasn't afaik) broken any Guinness rules at all.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 22 September, 2016, 02:33:09 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 23 September, 2016, 11:41:56 am
Post by: Polar Bear on 23 September, 2016, 03:47:53 pm
Whoever passes the total first has got the record first, regardless of when their attempt finishes.
I don't agree. The record is for an entire 365 days, not for who reaches a certain distance first. Theoretically Amanda could stop now and Kajsa could put on a huge burst and pass Amanda's cumulative total to date. However, eventually it is likely that Amanda will eclipse all existing distance records in a 365 day period but her record(s) will not be ratified until the 365 day period is completed.
Kajsa will hopefully reach her target and gain the record upon completion of her 365 days, Amanda will have her reward when her 365 days is ended.
Having met Kajsa she is a very motivated person who has set out to achieve something in her own way and is doing it. I believe that she has the requisite admiration and respect for Amanda but she is not competing with her - something that many people seem to think otherwise about. There is some deja vu about all this nonsense.
Incidentally, I think that you will find that Kajsa has not broken the Guinness rules once. There was an issue early on when Guinness made a mess with their own rules which required them to clarify but Kajsa was never in breach and remains thus.
Both riders should be respected, celebrated and admired for their own achievements.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 23 September, 2016, 04:04:03 pm
Amanda is the current women's year record holder. Suggesting anything else is incorrect.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 23 September, 2016, 04:04:29 pm
Last week I ran so fast to catch the bus, I broke the 100m world record. What, doesn't anyone believe me?
We've been here before.
None of us (I believe) doubt that Amanda has been putting in the miles. I believe she's been complying with the HAMR record-keeping requirements. So there is no reason to believe that she won't be awarded a HAMR woman's world record when she submits her records.
Post by: orraloon on 23 September, 2016, 04:12:00 pm
Post by: Polar Bear on 23 September, 2016, 04:21:56 pm
I've said nothing about Kajsa and rules.
Amanda is the current women's year record holder. Suggesting anything else is incorrect.
My post was in response to more than one post from more than one person.
A claim has been made that Kajsa has broken the Guinness rules which she has not.
A claim has been made that Amanda is the new record holder which is undeniably incorrect as her 365 day mileage has yet to be ratified. Indeed, we don't even know what her 365 day mileage is yet and it's going to be a very long autumn and winter before we do.
The current women's record is still in the name of Billie Fleming nee Dovey. This is irrefutable.
Now, can we get back to actually watching in awe at what Amanda and Kajsa are achieving please?
She is +2700 miles on Kurt's (average?) pace so if she carries on like this, she will be THE world HAM'R holder.
Absolutely. She WILL BE and her achievement will be undeniably awesome.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 23 September, 2016, 04:22:38 pm
Post by: Polar Bear on 23 September, 2016, 04:28:17 pm
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 23 September, 2016, 04:31:57 pm
Post by: Polar Bear on 23 September, 2016, 04:39:40 pm
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 23 September, 2016, 04:50:06 pm
Post by: mattc on 23 September, 2016, 04:54:46 pm
It's a fact but not a ratified record. There is a difference. Can't you see this?
The difference is somewhere between pedantry & philosophy.
These are both popular areas for discussion - not just on YACF - but I think we've done the debate here. You either agree with one side or the other, I think new evidence or arguments are unlikely. we could quote the UMCA position, or indeed the Guiness position, but some spectators will disagree with one or both.
(And I'm bored of it - can we get back to Gibbon talk?)
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 23 September, 2016, 06:08:19 pm
I'd certainly not begrudge her use of an off-road circuit, given her history.
The broader question of safety during such a record attempt is an interesting one. I've talked to people who can't believe that the Mersey Roads 24 takes place in traffic.
So I wonder what overall message about road cycling viewers will get from Amanda's ride.
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 September, 2016, 06:43:30 pm
Anything could happen to any of the three during the coming months to stop their attempt in its tracks. I sincerely hope it doesn't, and that they all carry on doing what they are doing/want to do. But until they have set their final total for the year, and it has been ratified by the relevant authorities, they won't have set a new record.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 23 September, 2016, 07:16:44 pm
Post by: sizbut on 23 September, 2016, 07:29:35 pm
"The Record" is held by Billie Fleming.
Well said.
Post by: Jaded on 23 September, 2016, 08:08:42 pm
"The Record" is held by Billie Fleming.
Hooray for a bit of sense.
Post by: Pale Rider on 23 September, 2016, 08:31:57 pm
Amanda has cycled the most miles in up to a year by any woman.
She could quit tomorrow, and, to suit the pedants, get her mileage ratified, but Billie's record is already broken.
Amanda doesn't have to cycle the full year, or every day, to be the record holder.
Looks like she may beat Kurt with anything to a month to spare.
Is she beats Kurt with 20 days in hand and then stops, will anyone seriously say she hasn't got the overall record?
Post by: Jaded on 23 September, 2016, 08:34:46 pm
Post by: tonyh on 23 September, 2016, 08:57:52 pm
You either agree with one side or the other
I disagree!
I agree with both!
Post by: Pale Rider on 23 September, 2016, 09:23:23 pm
Yes. Until ratified.
This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.
No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.
All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.
Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.
There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 September, 2016, 09:51:45 pm
For a record to be of any value, there has to be ratification, and a target for future attempts. Take a look at the spreadsheets for Kurt's attempt last year. For whatever reason, there are discrepancy between the miles posted on there and his final, ratified, total. For all we know Amanda's total might need some adjusting as well.
Here is a hypothetical , and extremely unlikely, question. Suppose after reaching 40,000 miles, Amanda "declared" her attempt over and asked for her record to be ratified, and the UMCA agreed with that total and posted it as a new record. Could she then add on any more miles she happened to cycle in the year?
What about Steve's month attempt? If he gets that, but in the same time, Amanda cycles more miles within her year record, does he hold the record? Of course he does! We are pretty sure that Tommy Godwin posted some huge months in his year, but no one considers them the record, because he didn't enter a "Month" record attempt.
Post by: Chris S on 23 September, 2016, 10:11:37 pm
Post by: Jaded on 23 September, 2016, 10:52:24 pm
Yes. Until ratified.
This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.
No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.
All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.
Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.
There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.
Ah, I see. Forest Green Rovers currently hold the FA Cup. Thanks for that.
Post by: mattc on 24 September, 2016, 08:53:32 am
Stirrer.You either agree with one side or the other
I disagree!
I agree with both!
Post by: mattc on 24 September, 2016, 08:56:33 am
Didn't Kurt have to ride every day in order for the UCMA record to count? ISTR he had to get a few km in, even when he was on a drip dehydrated from the effects of food poisoning? This rather implies that it's a 365 day record, and nobody "wins" anything until they've ridden 365 consecutive days, but I know nothing about the rules they're riding to.
I've never heard of this rule. I don't believe Steve met it in the week after his accident.
And how would you define it?
"I got on the bike and rolled down our drive; Alicia caught me at the bottom and put me straight back on the stretcher."
Oh heck, I'm getting drawn in again ... :facepalm: :D
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 September, 2016, 09:41:17 am
Ratification is irrelevant?Yes. Until ratified.
This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.
No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.
All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.
Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.
There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.
Really? I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.
Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)
Post by: Pale Rider on 24 September, 2016, 11:46:39 am
Ratification is irrelevant?Yes. Until ratified.
This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.
No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.
All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.
Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.
There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.
Really? I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.
Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)
Crowhurst was more than 45 years ago.
You may have noticed some technological advances since then in the way a moving object can be tracked.
All posting about Crowhurst does is cast doubt on Billie, Godwin and the other records which were not fully witnessed.
Amanda has quite reasonably and properly claimed the record.
All this nit picking, hair splitting pedantry about terminology and ratification does is make those doing it appear to be sad, sour Little Englanders who are upset at losing the record.
Were the nationalities of the two women reversed, would there be the same whining and twisting on here?
Of course not.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 September, 2016, 12:20:36 pm
A record is set when and only when that body says so.
Since I'm one of the people who congratulated Amanda on her Facebook page when she passed Billie's mileage, I don't think I'm a 'sad, sour Little Englanders'. Grow up and stop throwing insults.
Post by: Polar Bear on 24 September, 2016, 12:30:49 pm
As it stands Amanda does not hold a ratified record and no matter how rude you might wish to be, this fact will remain until Amanda finishes her year and seeks ratification of what should be a totally awesome and spectacular new record.
Little England will applaud Amanda's achievements as to do anything else would simply not be cricket.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 24 September, 2016, 12:35:07 pm
Post by: mattc on 24 September, 2016, 04:09:21 pm
Post by: toontra on 24 September, 2016, 04:59:38 pm
I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.
Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)
Rather a mixed message - saying you trust Amanda's mileages but then linking to someone who cheated!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 September, 2016, 05:08:03 pm
I'm saying that's why ratification is important.I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.
Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)
Rather a mixed message - saying you trust Amanda's mileages but then linking to someone who cheated!
Post by: simonp on 25 September, 2016, 12:16:56 am
Any adjustments to the distance are likely to be trivial compared to how far ahead of Billie Fleming Amanda already is. Each day the record she is setting increases.
Post by: Cmiller on 25 September, 2016, 03:43:46 am
"Amanda Coker's stats have been verified up to and including this week by Drew Clark, UMCA Records Chairman.
Some significant milestones:
On September 13, Amanda completed one-third of her year.
On September 21, Amanda surpassed the legendary Billie Dovey Fleming (29,603.7 miles).
On September 23, Amanda went over 30,000 miles.
Daily average is 229.1 miles per day.
Post by: Cmiller on 27 September, 2016, 08:12:18 pm
Post by: BSRU on 30 September, 2016, 02:51:21 pm
No idea how truthful this information is.
Post by: clarion on 30 September, 2016, 04:15:26 pm
Post by: mattc on 30 September, 2016, 04:37:16 pm
Doesn't sound likely to me.Especially without any sort of citation.
Not sure I'm keen on this sort of gossip ...
Post by: Justin(e) on 30 September, 2016, 05:24:07 pm
Doesn't sound likely to me.Especially without any sort of citation.
Not sure I'm keen on this sort of gossip ...
The first claim should be easy enough to verify. Has Tarzan joined the board of UMCA?
Post by: Jacamo on 30 September, 2016, 05:59:23 pm
The first claim should be easy enough to verify. Has Tarzan joined the board of UMCA?
Isn't Hoppo a member here? He's on the UMCA Board of Directors and could confirm/deny.
Post by: BSRU on 30 September, 2016, 07:01:05 pm
According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.Doesn't sound likely to me.Especially without any sort of citation.
Not sure I'm keen on this sort of gossip ...
The first claim should be easy enough to verify. Has Tarzan joined the board of UMCA?
Post by: Polar Bear on 30 September, 2016, 07:56:36 pm
I've read in another place that Kurt Searvogel has joined the board of the UMCA in order to change the rules on drafting and tailwind assisted riding in order to stop Amanda claiming his record(when she beats it) >:(.
No idea how truthful this information is.
I would have to strongly suspect that this is no more than the lower half of the internet doing what it does best. I have never met Kurt but given how he is / has supported Amanda in a very public way it would be nothing short of a major surprise.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 October, 2016, 09:38:56 am
I've read in another place that Kurt Searvogel has joined the board of the UMCA in order to change the rules on drafting and tailwind assisted riding in order to stop Amanda claiming his record(when she beats it) >:(.Sounds like complete and utter cobblers, seeing as his wife is riding to claim a UMCA record and occasionally rides with a tailwind.
No idea how truthful this information is.
Amanda is riding in a loop. How is that tailwind assisted riding?
Lower half of the internet talking with a clear farting sound.
Post by: Pale Rider on 01 October, 2016, 03:41:12 pm
I've read in another place that Kurt Searvogel has joined the board of the UMCA in order to change the rules on drafting and tailwind assisted riding in order to stop Amanda claiming his record(when she beats it) >:(.Sounds like complete and utter cobblers, seeing as his wife is riding to claim a UMCA record and occasionally rides with a tailwind.
No idea how truthful this information is.
Amanda is riding in a loop. How is that tailwind assisted riding?
Lower half of the internet talking with a clear farting sound.
I think the only raspberry is (possibly) being blown by Kurt.
It seems he is keen to hold on to his record and all was fine until Amanda proved herself capable of riding consecutive 220mile+ days, thereby eclipsing Kurt's wife's efforts and, very likely, his own.
Post by: mattc on 01 October, 2016, 05:39:19 pm
(everything I've seen recently from Kurt has been about the Trump-vs-Clinton show, but I might have missed something!)
Post by: Mr Larrington on 01 October, 2016, 10:05:34 pm
Post by: BSRU on 02 October, 2016, 10:29:21 am
Stop Forum Spam have pegged as a known wrong'un.No it doesn't.
It was not stated it was fact, it was clearly stated it was information from another forum and that it's truthfulness was unknown.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 02 October, 2016, 02:41:20 pm
Stop Forum Spam have pegged as a known wrong'un.No it doesn't.
I have it on impeccable authority that, in fact, it does.
It was not stated it was fact, it was clearly stated it was information from another forum and that it's truthfulness was unknown.
Didn't I say:
[...]one unsupported post[...]
Why, yes! Yes, I did. Presumably this post:
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Kurt Searvogel, likely upset that a woman (Amanda Coker) is currently kicking his arse and will probably take his HAMR (Highest Annual Mileage Record) from him, has joined the UMCA Board to have the rules changed on her! He has proposed changes that would restrict drafting and tailwind assisted riding to protect his record and those changes will be going to a vote very soon!
You read it here first!
Post by: Cmiller on 02 October, 2016, 03:02:47 pm
According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.
You may want to go back and take another look.
http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/ (http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/)
Post by: BSRU on 02 October, 2016, 03:39:01 pm
Thanks for the correction.
According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.
You may want to go back and take another look.
http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/ (http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/)
Post by: Cmiller on 02 October, 2016, 03:41:45 pm
Thanks for the correction.
According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.
You may want to go back and take another look.
http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/ (http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/)
You were right at the time. They just updated the site to reflect the current make up of the Board.
Post by: BSRU on 02 October, 2016, 03:43:51 pm
I stand corrected, due to my misunderstanding of your post.Stop Forum Spam have pegged as a known wrong'un.No it doesn't.
I have it on impeccable authority that, in fact, it does.It was not stated it was fact, it was clearly stated it was information from another forum and that it's truthfulness was unknown.
Didn't I say:[...]one unsupported post[...]
Why, yes! Yes, I did. Presumably this post:QuoteKurt Searvogel, likely upset that a woman (Amanda Coker) is currently kicking his arse and will probably take his HAMR (Highest Annual Mileage Record) from him, has joined the UMCA Board to have the rules changed on her! He has proposed changes that would restrict drafting and tailwind assisted riding to protect his record and those changes will be going to a vote very soon!
You read it here first!
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 06 October, 2016, 10:04:19 pm
Post by: woollypigs on 06 October, 2016, 10:12:56 pm
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Day 144 ended with 221 miles! :)
With all the rain, and believe me it has been raining a lot, the rising waters are forcing the animals out into sight. It's like riding your bike through a drive thru zoo! Saw an otter, raccoon, a huge pig, snakes, turkeys, and a lot of deer.
At mile 155 my rear tire wall blew out, thankfully I was on a straight away. A slight delay but there's no need to sweat the small stuff.
Post by: Clemo on 07 October, 2016, 09:09:20 am
Post by: woollypigs on 07 October, 2016, 12:22:14 pm
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Day 145 ended with 225 miles! :)
Today was the wet and windy beginning of hurricane Matthew. Going to have to wait and see what he throws at us tomorrow. You know it's pretty bad if they closed my favorite place...Disney World! This is only the fourth time in history Disney World has ever been closed... if that puts into perspective of how bad this hurricane is.
Stay safe everyone!
Post by: woollypigs on 07 October, 2016, 11:52:57 pm
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Day 146 ended with 100 miles of white knuckling wind gusts from hurricane Matthew. I gripped the handlebars so tight I got a few blisters on my hands, but I finally got an upper body workout. :)
Overall I think we got out pretty lucky as far as really bad weather. I did see some trees snap in the park and there is definitely going to be a lot of debris. Glad I stopped early because the winds were getting worse.
When did 100 miles become a short day?! ;)
Thanks for all the well wishes!
Only 100 miles rolls eyes :)
Post by: mcshroom on 08 October, 2016, 09:39:59 am
Only 100 miles rolls eyes :)
;D
Post by: hatler on 08 October, 2016, 09:48:24 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 October, 2016, 07:58:11 am
Post by: clarion on 14 October, 2016, 12:18:10 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 31 October, 2016, 10:12:32 am
Post by: orraloon on 06 November, 2016, 08:42:09 pm
Post by: clarion on 07 November, 2016, 01:05:54 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 09 November, 2016, 06:03:09 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 09 November, 2016, 10:34:03 pm
Amanda has just done 17 straight days of 230 miles plus.She did 17 days of 240 miles plus a while back, when in catch up mode after hurricane Hermine (days 113 to 129).
Post by: Phil W on 16 November, 2016, 03:45:11 pm
https://youtu.be/RzGngjQOO5g?t=5m25s
Post by: clarion on 16 November, 2016, 10:13:36 pm
Post by: Basil on 16 November, 2016, 10:23:57 pm
That was painful.
Whilst also funny. Watching it was one of those pain/pleasure things.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 25 November, 2016, 08:08:38 am
Post by: Justin(e) on 25 November, 2016, 01:39:33 pm
Still cranking out 230+ mile days - 25 days in a row now, I guess it's all in a days work.
I follow on the fb
Truly remarkable. Allez
Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 November, 2016, 05:23:29 pm
Post by: La Tortue on 27 November, 2016, 10:55:06 pm
Post by: Phil W on 27 November, 2016, 11:20:15 pm
Post by: La Tortue on 27 November, 2016, 11:43:04 pm
Post by: yossarian22 on 28 November, 2016, 12:57:20 pm
But all the better for it. Bravo Amanda! Truly astonishing.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 28 November, 2016, 10:15:21 pm
Post by: toontra on 28 November, 2016, 10:28:43 pm
Post by: Laid Back Rich on 29 November, 2016, 12:37:03 am
Assuming (and hoping) Amanda continues and completes the year of her challenge as she's going, it's surely looking increasingly unlikely that anyone in the foreseeable future will have the combination of location/climate/budget/equipment/support team/health and determination to surpass her likely target.
isn't that just what we were thinking as we were mesmerized by Kurt not so long ago?
Post by: Wowbagger on 29 November, 2016, 12:55:22 am
Obviously, Amanda still has a long way to go, in terms of both miles and months, but the apparent ease with which she is bashing out these miles gives the impression of an athlete who is several levels above what we have seen before. Looking at Jo's latest map (Nov 10th) Kurt was still behind what was his final average. Amanda is 3500 miles (at least) ahead of it. She is about 7000 miles ahead of where Tommy Godwin was at the same stage.
Post by: andyoxon on 29 November, 2016, 08:14:11 am
Go Amanda, what an amazing continuing effort.
Post by: teethgrinder on 29 November, 2016, 04:43:28 pm
Here's a link with her on the Schlitter recumbent Friday. Her father says she is faster on the diamond frame. The recumbent is basically for saddle sore prevention.https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/ (https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/)
Dropped in on Flatwoods park yesterday to see how Amanda was doing. I must say their entire set-up is perfect for this kind record setting. Team Amanda is on cruise control, the logistics, track, and athlete are as good as it gets. This loop is a very clean and smooth track which has to help with bike maintenance and safety. Amanda is riding effortlessly at 20 mph. Expect to see a new record come 15 May.
I think it was Kurt who came up with the Flatwoods Park. From what I can tell, I think it looks very good. It looks like it's very sheltered from the wind and flat with no risk of ice. I'm not sure I'd say perfect. It seems to be prone to flooding and Amanda has had to cut a few days short because of storms, but definitely very good.
The other thing that I'm not sure about is the wildlife. Amanda seems to have had a few near misses with animals running out on her. I know she's had at least 4 crashes and I think I heard that in August, so she may have had more since. I think she also has some tough days as well.
Team Amanda don't really put anything out what is going on. We get little more than stats from Strava and no story, which makes her the least interesting of all year record riders to follow. The only thing that makes her worth following is that she is doing such a good job. Very consistent rides, but they would be with very consistent conditions. I often heard people say that consistency is key, but I would argue that balance is key because you can only have consistency in consistent conditions, which even on the Flatwoods course, doesn't appear to be possible.
I'm guessing that Amanda will do about 83,000, maybe 84,000. She is getting faster. Not very easy to tell without knowing any expected changes in riding conditions. I doubt that Amanda is riding effortlessly; though I expect she appears to be; just as Andy Wilkinson has done on his record breaking rides.
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Here's a link with her on the Schlitter recumbent Friday. Her father says she is faster on the diamond frame. The recumbent is basically for saddle sore prevention.https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/
I'd have thought that would have been pretty obvious anyway. I did hear that people said I should have used a recumbent because they are much faster and that Kurt was using one. If they give such and advantage, how come Kurt didn't ride his all the time and neither does Amanda?
Post by: Kim on 29 November, 2016, 05:18:36 pm
As in the real world, the recumbent's main advantage for a DF-trained rider is avoiding contact point issues. Fair enough, I say.
Post by: teethgrinder on 29 November, 2016, 05:55:53 pm
I rode a few miles with my coach on the month record. I was on my Raleigh and she was on a carbon road bike without luggage. I maintained my usual power output and going down hills I sometimes left her behind. She had to go close to 25mile TT pace to keep up with me down hills. I was carrying my Carradice where she just had a small bag for tools. She reckoned that my bike set up was about as good as a TT bike, though not as fast as possible as it's set to be more comfortable. The wheels are pretty fast, as are the tyres. My Aero helmet would have helped as well, where she was wearing a road helmet.
Post by: La Tortue on 29 November, 2016, 10:38:12 pm
(though I remain sceptical that really fast recumbents are reliable enough for this sort of thing).
Now there's a new one? Lots of high mileage "really fast" recumbents have been smoking the roads for over ten years. The Bacchetta CA2 is just the first one to come to mind. The Schlitter Encore that Amanda rides is very similar to this design and there is no reason to suspect it isn't more than capable to knock out a 100,000 mile ride.
Post by: Cmiller on 30 November, 2016, 02:47:56 pm
I think it was Kurt who came up with the Flatwoods Park. From what I can tell, I think it looks very good. It looks like it's very sheltered from the wind and flat with no risk of ice. I'm not sure I'd say perfect. It seems to be prone to flooding and Amanda has had to cut a few days short because of storms, but definitely very good.
The other thing that I'm not sure about is the wildlife. Amanda seems to have had a few near misses with animals running out on her. I know she's had at least 4 crashes and I think I heard that in August, so she may have had more since. I think she also has some tough days as well.
Actually, Amanda has been a regular at Flatwoods Park since long before Kurt began his HAMR attempt. I introduced Kurt to the park early in his HAMR but he wasn't impressed at the time. I remember it being cold/wet/windy that day, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. He did ride there quite a bit towards the end and broke the record there, though. Amanda rode with Kurt almost daily during this time and put in more miles with him than anyone else while he was there. Riding with Kurt is when she got the bug and started thinking about going after the woman's record herself.
As for riding conditions at the park- the surface is in very good condition without any major defects, but it is definitely not well protected from the wind or the sun. It's a rare day when there are no or only light winds at the park and locals have given the loop well deserved nicknames like "Windy Woods" and "The Vortex". There is some relief from the winds during the summer months, but then there are the almost daily thunderstorms and temps that exceed 100 deg that she has to deal with. The major benefit Amanda receives from riding there is the lack of vehicular traffic. She suffered life threatening injuries in 2011 after being hit by a car and now has PTSD as a result. Riding the public roads for her HAMR attempt without a full-time follow vehicle isn't even an option for her.
And yes, she has has gone down very hard on a few occasions. While there isn't any vehicular traffic, some of the same clueless idiots who drive the roads around here also like to ride their bikes and/or run at Flatwoods. Between these people, and the other wildlife, she always has to be on guard.
Team Amanda don't really put anything out what is going on. We get little more than stats from Strava and no story, which makes her the least interesting of all year record riders to follow. The only thing that makes her worth following is that she is doing such a good job.
This really just comes down to time. She doesn't have any.. She's as focused off the bike as she is on it and keeps to a strict refueling and sleep schedule to be able to recover well enough to what she does day in and day out.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 November, 2016, 03:04:38 pm
Team Amanda don't really put anything out what is going on. We get little more than stats from Strava and no story, which makes her the least interesting of all year record riders to follow. The only thing that makes her worth following is that she is doing such a good job.I do enjoy her daily photos and little jokes on facebook. She or her team make a good effort to post something about other people riding at Flatwoods who have beaten their own personal daily mileage record, usually with a photo of the person, quite often taken with Amanda. Then there are photos of wildlife, ranging from snakes to coyotes and a wild hog.
Post by: teethgrinder on 30 November, 2016, 03:28:01 pm
Actually, Amanda has been a regular at Flatwoods Park since long before Kurt began his HAMR attempt. I introduced Kurt to the park early in his HAMR but he wasn't impressed at the time. I remember it being cold/wet/windy that day, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. He did ride there quite a bit towards the end and broke the record there, though. Amanda rode with Kurt almost daily during this time and put in more miles with him than anyone else while he was there. Riding with Kurt is when she got the bug and started thinking about going after the woman's record herself.
As for riding conditions at the park- the surface is in very good condition without any major defects, but it is definitely not well protected from the wind or the sun. It's a rare day when there are no or only light winds at the park and locals have given the loop well deserved nicknames like "Windy Woods" and "The Vortex". There is some relief from the winds during the summer months, but then there are the almost daily thunderstorms and temps that exceed 100 deg that she has to deal with. The major benefit Amanda receives from riding there is the lack of vehicular traffic. She suffered life threatening injuries in 2011 after being hit by a car and now has PTSD as a result. Riding the public roads for her HAMR attempt without a full-time follow vehicle isn't even an option for her.
And yes, she has has gone down very hard on a few occasions. While there isn't any vehicular traffic, some of the same clueless idiots who drive the roads around here also like to ride their bikes and/or run at Flatwoods. Between these people, and the other wildlife, she always has to be on guard.
This really just comes down to time. She doesn't have any.. She's as focused off the bike as she is on it and keeps to a strict refueling and sleep schedule to be able to recover well enough to what she does day in and day out.
Thanks. I did hear that she had a very serious accident and won't ride on roads but I don't think I knew about the PTSD. Kurt didn't seem to like the cold, which I think was why he came back to Florida at the end and it made all the difference when he did.
Lack of traffic does make a big difference. I reckon I lost 2-3 miles a day from stopping at junctions.
I can definitely understand the lack of time time. After a few days, everything seems to take a surprisingly long time to get ready. I was lucky that I had Idai putting stuff out, but it was always an effort to co-ordinate with my riding and we often had to cancel stuff because we couldn't be in the same place at the same time. We ended up fighting off the media because they always robbed me of riding time. Strava were OK. They had a freelance journalist (George Marshal, who came 5th in the 24 hr with just under 500 miles this year) ride with me to talk and take photos. It was hard enough for me to even talk to my team. We tried a bluetooth device for my phone but I only got it to work once (it's now battered just from being on my helmet for so many miles) A conversation that would normally take minutes could take several days.
Post by: teethgrinder on 30 November, 2016, 03:30:51 pm
I do enjoy her daily photos and little jokes on facebook. She or her team make a good effort to post something about other people riding at Flatwoods who have beaten their own personal daily mileage record, usually with a photo of the person, quite often taken with Amanda. Then there are photos of wildlife, ranging from snakes to coyotes and a wild hog.
Yes. She does have her 100 mile and 200 mile clubs, though it all seems to be at a local level. I can't blame her for that when she already has plenty to do. I had lots of occasions where I'd have liked to have taken photos for Facebook etc but didn't want to stop.
Post by: andrew531 on 06 December, 2016, 08:25:19 pm
Post by: red marley on 06 December, 2016, 08:45:28 pm
Post by: andrew531 on 07 December, 2016, 10:33:34 pm
Post by: StevieB on 22 December, 2016, 10:49:03 am
HAMR-fatigue?
Post by: Chris S on 22 December, 2016, 10:53:36 am
Weird... not long ago we were all agog at the efforts of Steve and Kurt, and now... nothing?
HAMR-fatigue?
Probably inevitable. There's only so much awe one can extract from someone riding a bike round in circles, day in day out; no matter how awe inspiring it might be. I check in occasionally and allow my jaw to drop at Amanda's achievements. And Kajsa's. And the others.
Post by: Wowbagger on 22 December, 2016, 09:44:35 pm
Post by: Phil W on 22 December, 2016, 09:52:06 pm
Post by: woollypigs on 22 December, 2016, 09:54:25 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 22 December, 2016, 09:59:52 pm
It seems that the UMC's pages showing the progress spreadsheets aren't available either. That's a pain.
While not the official UMCA stats, these are accurate and updated at the end of each day-
https://goo.gl/reemOY (https://goo.gl/reemOY)
Post by: StevieB on 22 December, 2016, 10:58:52 pm
Steve succeeded in encouraging others to have a go,
but surely Amanda must be having the opposite effect!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 23 December, 2016, 08:06:58 am
She Is Some Machine
Post by: orraloon on 23 December, 2016, 08:23:10 am
Just phenomenal.
Post by: rafletcher on 23 December, 2016, 10:37:52 am
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 December, 2016, 05:51:18 pm
It's not Amanda's performance that is boring, in my view. It's the fact that she merely provides the raw data and gives no background that would add some interest. Kurt had his pop tarts and the fact that, early on, his bikes kept breaking. Steve we know and love, communicated a bit via his team and this forum, and he became an international cult figure as a result of the Scandinavian interest. Kajsa's videos have been very amusing. But Amanda just churns out loads of miles, logs her data, eats, goes to sleep and doesn't tell us any more about it. That is the dedication of a true champion. Utterly single-minded and doesn't appear to care what anyone else thinks.
Post by: Kim on 23 December, 2016, 08:26:10 pm
Kajsa's targeting of the Billie Fleming record put her in a different league, with enough time off the bike to make a proper go at the social media thing. But then she always seemed more interested in inspiring people than in riding a long way on a bike.
Post by: Chris S on 23 December, 2016, 08:37:14 pm
Post by: mattc on 24 December, 2016, 10:16:17 am
Post by: Peter on 24 December, 2016, 10:19:44 am
Post by: mattc on 24 December, 2016, 10:40:54 am
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 December, 2016, 10:41:21 am
Let's not forget who we voted Sports Personality of the Year three times ...
You mean Britain's greatest ever athlete, the incomparable Andy Murray?
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 December, 2016, 06:40:37 pm
Post by: andrew531 on 24 December, 2016, 09:51:45 pm
Has anyone else signed up to ride HAMR in 2017?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 24 December, 2016, 09:57:20 pm
And is currently posting a witty christmas ditty per day on facebook
She Is Some Machine
She's done 10x my distance this year, starting in May. And I've managed an SR series and a few other interesting things this year. I may have done as much climbing as she has though. :o
Post by: mattc on 26 December, 2016, 08:54:22 am
Day 225 ended with 115 miles. :)
Merry Christmas everyone!
On the twelfth day of Christmas my parents said to me:
Take off Christmas Day (no way!)
You're never too old for Santa.
Who ate all the fruit cake?
It's chilly grab your jacket.
Gonna need more coffee.
Hold on tight it's windy.
50,000 miles.
Five months to go.
Break time we've got pizza.
Watch out for those turkeys.
Put on all your sunscreen.
And no more sprinting till May! 🎅🏼🎄🚲
https://www.strava.com/activities/811154018/shareable_images/map_based?hl=en-US&v=1482689123
(and a terrible poet ;) )
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 December, 2016, 12:36:45 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 02 January, 2017, 09:56:35 pm
Yeah, a day off is 115 miles . . .
I've been known to take a day off to do 115 miles ;D
Post by: orraloon on 14 January, 2017, 11:31:05 am
[Corrected for typo, is now 56k+]
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 01 February, 2017, 07:31:32 pm
Post by: toontra on 01 February, 2017, 09:10:35 pm
How about 84,350
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 February, 2017, 08:45:26 am
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 02 February, 2017, 10:30:00 am
Post by: Phil W on 02 February, 2017, 06:32:59 pm
Post by: Citizenfish on 03 February, 2017, 01:58:13 pm
Kurt could have smashed many more miles out near the end but chose to stop at a respectable figure and push the record on a little more. Kurt was clever enough to know that the sacrifice to get to this level was extraordinary and there were a single digit number of real contenders to his crown.
I wonder whether Amanda's circuits (both neural and pedalled) will see her do the same. Say get to 80K and then step back with the job done, a year's work for anyone else and a spectacular achievement. Knowing full well that only one with her singular ability to repeat the same circuits has a "safe" hope. Our Steve has a much tougher ask without a similar UK circuit.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 February, 2017, 02:03:17 pm
So far, she hasn't had any 'blue' periods on facebook. Her parents have had to physically restrain her (lock up her bike) from going out in dangerous conditions.
If she passes the record, she'll keep going at the same intensity. I predict that if she passes 80k, she'll start increasing the miles per day, she won't slacken off.
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 February, 2017, 02:10:33 pm
Post by: rafletcher on 03 February, 2017, 02:12:52 pm
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 February, 2017, 02:16:50 pm
Post by: Chris S on 03 February, 2017, 02:22:16 pm
Post by: wajcgac on 04 February, 2017, 12:13:43 pm
The HAMR is an obsession for Amanda, probably more so than for Kurt, demonstrated by the fact that her rides have been so much more consistent without the ups and downs that Kurt had. Some, I know Kurt had due to mechanical/medical issues but there were others with doubts or loss of interest in what he was doing.
Amanda's stats for her ride posted today (Day 265) on Strava
https://www.strava.com/activities/854208147/analysis (https://www.strava.com/activities/854208147/analysis)
403.1km at an average of 34.1km/hr
Total ride time 12hrs 35mins with about 45 mins of stops.
When you look at the analysis of the ride she started off quite slowly (30kph for the first 50km) and gradually increased her pace, for the next 275km she averaged nearly 35kph.
She then increased her pace to average an incredible 38.4kph for the next 50km !, before easing back towards the end of the day.
You can see that she had the company of some very capable fellow riders at times for this ride.
Her obsession for the HAMR (will and determination if you like), good support from Mum and Dad and other cyclists, and phenomenal cycling ability will mean that all being well she will beat the current record with over a month to spare.
There is no doubt in my mind that she will then keep going on a relentless mission to achieve the highest number of miles possible.
Post by: teethgrinder on 04 February, 2017, 07:42:57 pm
Post by: clarion on 07 February, 2017, 03:30:49 pm
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 07 February, 2017, 03:33:02 pm
Post by: jsabine on 07 February, 2017, 03:44:43 pm
Quite possible I'm inventing things, of course.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 07 February, 2017, 04:01:11 pm
Post by: Citizenfish on 10 February, 2017, 09:28:17 am
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 13 February, 2017, 12:27:03 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 13 February, 2017, 03:17:01 pm
Post by: swampthing on 14 February, 2017, 12:12:42 pm
(cf. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7Vgt7u4KC9bY1Lr4xOyd4VLkzQxi0c8ErqyFqBvnHk/edit#gid=2022488017 )
- During day 270 (February 8th) Amanda exceeded 100,000 km.
- Having cycled 63,333 miles (after February 13th) she will probably exceed Steve Abraham's 2015-mileage (63,609 miles) on February 15th (after 277 days).
- If she goes on at her daily average of 230.3 miles/ day she will beat Kurt Searvogel's record of 76,076 miles after around 330 days (which means she is still 55-56 days away).
She's really incredibly constant!
Post by: orraloon on 21 February, 2017, 07:05:03 am
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 01 March, 2017, 09:20:08 pm
On that there Facebook AC says she will soon announce start date for her highest monthly mileage attempt.
I don't have Facebook but it seems that she's upped her mileage recently, last four days were 243, 250, 246, and 255. is the month record now on, or is she starting to up the pace now she only has 75 days to go?
Post by: andrew531 on 01 March, 2017, 10:23:24 pm
Yes maybe she is upping the miles with the end in sight. Still some time to go though.
Post by: orraloon on 02 March, 2017, 07:56:54 pm
Post by: clarion on 03 March, 2017, 09:45:58 am
Post by: mattc on 03 March, 2017, 09:55:38 am
She's really hit a sweet spot.She's on the home straight - less than 70 days to go.
Anyone could bang out 250/day if they knew they only had 70 days left.
Post by: clarion on 03 March, 2017, 10:06:45 am
Post by: Chris S on 03 March, 2017, 02:58:21 pm
But the record is about distance, and distance alone - so why wouldn't you? I've revised how I feel about it because - 250 a day is fucking incredible, however you slice it.
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 March, 2017, 03:03:13 pm
Post by: Kim on 03 March, 2017, 04:00:34 pm
I agree. It's an amazing feat of endurance. The physical achievement is one thing, but in a sense I think that is rivalled by the sheer repetition of what she is doing. She must know pretty well every inch of tarmac/whatever surface.
OTOH, that's still more interesting than many people's poorly-paid day jobs.
Post by: Citizenfish on 03 March, 2017, 07:06:51 pm
I agree. It's an amazing feat of endurance. The physical achievement is one thing, but in a sense I think that is rivalled by the sheer repetition of what she is doing. She must know pretty well every inch of tarmac/whatever surface.
OTOH, that's still more interesting than many people's poorly-paid day jobs.
They have weekends off....
Post by: Polar Bear on 03 March, 2017, 08:27:13 pm
Post by: HK on 07 March, 2017, 07:40:55 pm
I was guilty of being a bit sneery and cynical early on. She's riding round in circles FFS, basically an outdoor track, in a forest, in the sub-tropics.Having ridden a 1200 in Florida the weather isn't a piece of cake. Most countries have weather issues, they just don't happen to be the same as the UK.
But the record is about distance, and distance alone - so why wouldn't you? I've revised how I feel about it because - 250 a day is fucking incredible, however you slice it.
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Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 09 March, 2017, 08:14:00 am
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on 09 March, 2017, 08:55:12 am
I think Godwins original record should still be Steves target and that would for me etch him into the great amateur cycling conversation for all time.
What Coker is up to is going to be hard for anyone to beat, no matter what they do - the mental strength she is showing is bordering on Zen master.
Post by: mattc on 09 March, 2017, 09:05:15 am
Personally I am not even comparing the two efforts now. Amanda is doing it the best it can be done and its amazing. TG is doing it way more traditional than it needs to be done which is also amazing.Agree with most of that!
I think Godwins original record should still be Steves target and that would for me etch him into the great amateur cycling conversation for all time.
What Coker is up to is going to be hard for anyone to beat, no matter what they do - the mental strength she is showing is bordering on Zen master.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 09 March, 2017, 09:13:23 am
Post by: clarion on 09 March, 2017, 09:50:08 am
Amanda has just clocked her seventh day in a row above 250 miles, so looks like she is capable of sustaining an unbelievable average of 250mph ...You're right: I don't believe it ;D
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 March, 2017, 02:20:51 pm
2/26/2017 288 250.6 66453.7 230.74 20.57 12.18 +43097 +6434
2/27/2017 289 246.6 66700.3 230.80 20.36 12.11 +43262 +6473
2/28/2017 290 255.3 66955.6 230.88 20.59 12.40 +43437 +6520
3/1/2017 291 249.8 67205.4 230.95 20.52 12.17 +43605 +6561
3/2/2017 292 252.3 67457.7 231.02 20.25 12.46 +43776 +6605
3/3/2017 293 250.4 67708.1 231.09 20.41 12.27 +43946 +6647
3/4/2017 294 253.3 67961.4 231.16 20.48 12.37 +44118 +6692
3/5/2017 295 252.2 68213.6 231.23 20.61 12.24 +44289 +6736
3/6/2017 296 255.1 68468.7 231.31 20.17 12.65 +44463 +6782
3/7/2017 297 250.5 68719.2 231.38 20.25 12.37 +44632 +6824
3/8/2017 298 254.2 68973.4 231.45 20.37 12.48 +44806 +6870
Amanda's last 11 days, yielding more than 2750 miles. She is now a month away from breaking Kurt's record, at those speeds. She is now knocking out 1000 miles every 4 days. 67 days left at that speed is another 16750 miles. We are looking at a new record in the region of 86000 miles. We haven't yet seen if she can increase her daily distance significantly beyond 250 for several consecutive days, but I certainly wouldn't bet against it.
Post by: The French Tandem on 09 March, 2017, 05:22:04 pm
Post by: hatler on 09 March, 2017, 05:25:07 pm
Post by: wilkyboy on 09 March, 2017, 05:34:11 pm
I reckon the subsequent figures are Average daily mileage, average speed whilst moving, average speed over 24 hours, distance beyond the Billy Dovey record at the same day number and distance beyond the Searvogel record at the same day number.
The columns of 12.x's is, I think, moving time (hours, decimal) — Amanda's riding only half the day, but at over 32kph, so her distances are mega!
Post by: The French Tandem on 09 March, 2017, 05:49:40 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 09 March, 2017, 06:01:50 pm
date,
day no,
mileage for day,
total mileage for year so far,
average miles per day for year so far,
average speed for day,
riding time for day,
miles ahead of Billie Fleming's record pace,
miles ahead of Kurt Searvogel's record pace
Post by: hatler on 09 March, 2017, 06:08:51 pm
Doh ! Of course.I reckon the subsequent figures are Average daily mileage, average speed whilst moving, average speed over 24 hours, distance beyond the Billy Dovey record at the same day number and distance beyond the Searvogel record at the same day number.
The columns of 12.x's is, I think, moving time (hours, decimal) — Amanda's riding only half the day, but at over 32kph, so her distances are mega!
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 March, 2017, 06:13:03 pm
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7Vgt7u4KC9bY1Lr4xOyd4VLkzQxi0c8ErqyFqBvnHk/edit#gid=2022488017
Post by: Martin on 10 March, 2017, 12:36:32 pm
I think TG could break Godwin's and Searvogel's records but probably not Coker's, though I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
but one is no longer a record (unless there is one for riding in the UK only) and the other won't be in a few weeks; I think Steve's intention is to beat Amanda
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 10 March, 2017, 12:44:06 pm
TG is already riding too slow and for too long each day to be likely to beat Coker, assuming she goes the full year.
Post by: andyoxon on 10 March, 2017, 01:33:56 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 11 March, 2017, 06:12:21 pm
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 March, 2017, 06:17:24 pm
Post by: yossarian22 on 12 March, 2017, 01:24:25 am
Post by: La Tortue on 12 March, 2017, 01:48:28 am
There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page.
Speaking about a dearth of information, I keep dropping in here to see how Steve is doing and wondering if I've logged into the proper place. Where can I find coverage?
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 March, 2017, 10:23:10 am
To be fair, the ride isn't about providing entertainment! There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page. Certainly interesting how many alligators have cross her path so far in the year.
The facebook page I have looked at has had nothing much posted since she started.
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 12 March, 2017, 10:52:24 am
To be fair, the ride isn't about providing entertainment! There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page. Certainly interesting how many alligators have cross her path so far in the year.
The facebook page I have looked at has had nothing much posted since she started.
The one I follow is https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/, which seems to be updated daily.
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 March, 2017, 11:03:22 am
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 12 March, 2017, 05:58:18 pm
I hope she and her family/support team publish a load of stuff about this attempt. Steve's and Kurt's year were such great fun because we were all on here following them, and Steve's massive international fan club was one of the funniest things I've seen since having internet access. All we see is another set of mind-boggling data every day. That's precisely the right way to set an absolutely huge total, and I admire her enormously for her dedication and single-mindedness, but not knowing her state of mind, physical health and how many bicycles she has broken in the effort is a lot less fun.
I quite agree and for this reason I hope Steve is going for the "Opposite Sex" record and is going to beat Kurt. That will make it achievable and risky that should make good reading. If Steve goes for 230 miles a day I feel that it is bound to fail (I hope I am proved very wrong, but I have a logical side).
So come on Steve - I am already addicted!
BB
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 March, 2017, 08:54:51 am
And today posted the news that she has passed 70 000milesTo be fair, the ride isn't about providing entertainment! There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page. Certainly interesting how many alligators have cross her path so far in the year.
The facebook page I have looked at has had nothing much posted since she started.
The one I follow is https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/, which seems to be updated daily.
Still over 6k to go to pass the record, but 70 000 must feel like one heck of a milestone.
She's ridden over 260 miles in a day several times now.
Post by: toontra on 13 March, 2017, 08:58:07 am
This is an amazing achievement, both in terms of the planning and the execution. It seems as though there's barely been a hiccough all year (although no doubt there have been dramas behind scenes).
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 March, 2017, 01:29:16 pm
Post by: Bledlow on 13 March, 2017, 02:37:00 pm
When the absolute record holder is a woman, there should, of course, also be a men's record. ;DI hope she and her family/support team publish a load of stuff about this attempt. Steve's and Kurt's year were such great fun because we were all on here following them, and Steve's massive international fan club was one of the funniest things I've seen since having internet access. All we see is another set of mind-boggling data every day. That's precisely the right way to set an absolutely huge total, and I admire her enormously for her dedication and single-mindedness, but not knowing her state of mind, physical health and how many bicycles she has broken in the effort is a lot less fun.
I quite agree and for this reason I hope Steve is going for the "Opposite Sex" record and is going to beat Kurt. That will make it achievable and risky that should make good reading. If Steve goes for 230 miles a day I feel that it is bound to fail (I hope I am proved very wrong, but I have a logical side).
So come on Steve - I am already addicted!
BB
That's what those tossers who pretended that the men who Beryl Burton had beaten held the real world records should have done.
Post by: The French Tandem on 16 March, 2017, 05:41:57 am
Post by: T42 on 16 March, 2017, 07:54:23 am
Post by: NeilH on 16 March, 2017, 11:20:41 am
Only 245 miles yesterday. She's getting a bit lazy :)
Must have been a recovery day ... 8)
Post by: Karla on 16 March, 2017, 12:35:01 pm
When the absolute record holder is a woman, there should, of course, also be a men's record. ;D
That's what those tossers who pretended that the men who Beryl Burton had beaten held the real world records should have done.
That only applied to one record, didn't it? The tossers only had to wait two years anyway, as John Watson took the record back for the boys in 1969.
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 March, 2017, 01:58:41 pm
Post by: Citizenfish on 17 March, 2017, 04:57:19 pm
Has Amanda officially started an attempt on the month record? She clocked up more than 4038 miles in the first 16 days in March. She stands a chance of beating Steve's month record by 1000 miles.
No ..but expect an announcement soon
Post by: toontra on 17 March, 2017, 06:44:57 pm
I expect the month challenge to be in her last 4 or 5 weeks (so very soon) so she can really empty the tank without it adversely affecting the remainder of her year challenge. It will also be warmer - hopefully!
Post by: wajcgac on 17 March, 2017, 10:04:39 pm
Has Amanda officially started an attempt on the month record? She clocked up more than 4038 miles in the first 16 days in March. She stands a chance of beating Steve's month record by 1000 miles.
No ..but expect an announcement soon
Amanda's current rolling 30 day average is the highest it has been since her year attempt began at 397.7 km per day (247.1 miles per day). Despite not hearing anything official the recent plethora of 400km+ rides had me thinking that she had already started.
It's going to be some show when she finally puts some effort in :)
Post by: toontra on 17 March, 2017, 10:13:48 pm
Amanda's current rolling 30 day average is the highest it has been since her year attempt began at 397.7 km per day (247.1 miles per day). Despite not hearing anything official the recent plethora of 400km+ rides had me thinking that she had already started.
According to the UMCA website there are no current attempts: https://www.ultracycling.com/highest-monthly-mileage-hmmr/ (https://www.ultracycling.com/highest-monthly-mileage-hmmr/)
Post by: Bondurant on 20 March, 2017, 07:33:10 pm
Post by: Citizenfish on 21 March, 2017, 06:23:35 pm
March 25, April 8, and April 11
Post by: Phil W on 21 March, 2017, 08:03:41 pm
Post by: Phil W on 21 March, 2017, 10:19:15 pm
That is an awful lot for one day!
I didn't specify the units, he he
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 March, 2017, 10:35:12 pm
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 March, 2017, 09:15:34 am
Post by: Bobby on 24 March, 2017, 11:42:20 am
Amanda's last 4 days have yielded 1022.5 miles.
:o
Post by: toontra on 24 March, 2017, 12:25:10 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 24 March, 2017, 02:35:24 pm
Post by: The French Tandem on 24 March, 2017, 07:34:07 pm
Post by: Karla on 24 March, 2017, 07:52:13 pm
Post by: andrew531 on 24 March, 2017, 10:39:00 pm
Maintaining the March average (253.2, currently) to the end of the year projects to 85945.7, and a month total of 7596.
Well that puts my first 400 @ the end of next month into perspective!!
Post by: yossarian22 on 27 March, 2017, 01:33:11 pm
Post by: Wowbagger on 27 March, 2017, 01:51:56 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 28 March, 2017, 03:30:28 am
Post by: Kim on 28 March, 2017, 01:23:29 pm
According to the spreadsheet I linked to above that makes it another 2506 miles to beat Kurt's record. We are now getting into the realms of "even I would stand a chance of doing that by day 365". :D
Looks like you've set yourself a challenge :)
Post by: Wowbagger on 29 March, 2017, 10:37:57 am
3/26/2017 316 270.6 73562.0
3/27/2017 317 264.4 73826.4
3/28/2017 318 267.1 74093.5
Amanda's last 4 days and current total. In 8 days she will overhaul Kurt.
Post by: Karla on 29 March, 2017, 10:46:39 am
Post by: The French Tandem on 29 March, 2017, 12:38:47 pm
3/25/2017 315 264.6 73291.4
3/26/2017 316 270.6 73562.0
3/27/2017 317 264.4 73826.4
3/28/2017 318 267.1 74093.5
Amanda's last 4 days and current total. In 8 days she will overhaul Kurt.
She will break Kurt's record on day 326. That leaves another 39 days to push the record even farther :o
Post by: andrew531 on 29 March, 2017, 06:26:00 pm
Post by: HK on 30 March, 2017, 01:46:02 pm
At the current mileage she could beat Kurt's record by 10,000 miles
And she has already put rather a lot into the ladies record!
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Post by: Wowbagger on 30 March, 2017, 02:11:52 pm
Unless she chooses to have another go, I doubt that her record will ever be beaten.
Post by: andrew_s on 30 March, 2017, 02:35:03 pm
Unless she chooses to have another go, I doubt that her record will ever be beaten.Never is a long time, but I think that any successful attempt would have to be on a similar basis - laps of a flat course with little chance of accidents, somewhere with relatively benign weather.
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 31 March, 2017, 07:16:27 am
.....also with a support crew and someone to cook so they are well fed.Unless she chooses to have another go, I doubt that her record will ever be beaten.Never is a long time, but I think that any successful attempt would have to be on a similar basis - laps of a flat course with little chance of accidents, somewhere with relatively benign weather.
About the record, Amanda is a truly great rider and would leave me in the dust, but if a man did this like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Strasser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Strasser) and really set his mind to it I have no doubt it could be done. If you look at distance records the speeds men do are faster than women. In RAAM the fastest male speed is 16.42 mph and female is 13.32. This difference is also seen in other competitive cycling. Look at the CTT records. The only person to buck this trend was Beryl Burton who still hold the women's 12 hour record (she must have been the greatest champion of all time!). So if the record is to be broken it will be a male, 35 or under who has a racing pedigree and can ride consistently at 23mph so they get enough rest each day.
Quite a commitment.
BB
Post by: yossarian22 on 31 March, 2017, 11:37:51 am
And I don't think you can extrapolate from RAAM and other distance records.
HAMR takes a certain mindset, recovery, consistency, team-work.
I have no doubt if the record is to be broken, it is most likely to be a female, 30 or under. ;D
Post by: lahoski on 31 March, 2017, 11:50:17 am
The 'male' physical advantage really diminishes on the year challenge. If Christoph Strasser had everything Amanda has then perhaps he would take it. However, that's just ifs. It means nothing. Until one of these super blokes (who are definitely much better than the wimminz) actually does it, it's all meaningless conjecture.
Amanda is absolutely incredible and her resilience - physically and mentally - is phenomenal.
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Post by: Karla on 31 March, 2017, 01:47:20 pm
So if the record is to be broken it will be a male, 35 or under who has a racing pedigree and can ride consistently at 23mph so they get enough rest each day.
"Male under 30 with racing pedigree" certainly fits the mould of previous year record riders quite well. There was Ossie Nicholson, the existing pro, and then Tommy Godwin who'd sat at or near the top of the domestic scene for several years and was looking at the Tour de France after his year record, except that the second world war got in the way.
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 March, 2017, 01:52:01 pm
http://thatemilychappell.com/2016/09/long-distance-ladies/ is a recent article, but there are several on this topic throughout this most excellent blog. WARNING: ONCE YOU START READING EMILY'S STUFF, YOU MIGHT BE THERE A LONG TIME! :thumbsup:
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 31 March, 2017, 06:22:00 pm
I'm not sure if being male is necessarily an advantage in this case.
And I don't think you can extrapolate from RAAM and other distance records.
HAMR takes a certain mindset, recovery, consistency, team-work.
I have no doubt if the record is to be broken, it is most likely to be a female, 30 or under. ;D
What I was trying to say was that if a racing male sets his mind to it he will stand a good chance. The mind must play a large part in this and given that male under 30 are perhaps not consistent enough, maybe it is the mind that will overcome the physical advantage that men have.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 31 March, 2017, 06:53:17 pm
Post by: The French Tandem on 02 April, 2017, 07:23:33 am
It is looking as though Amanda will overtake Tommy Godwin on day 322.
75160 miles after 322 days. Well done Amanda!
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 03 April, 2017, 07:42:30 pm
It is looking as though Amanda will overtake Tommy Godwin on day 322.
75160 miles after 322 days. Well done Amanda!
You hold an 'unbreakable world record' for 76 years and then in a couple of years, just like buses, a couple of people come along and relegate you to third. Chapeau Amanda.
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 April, 2017, 03:00:30 pm
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 April, 2017, 03:36:42 pm
Post by: tonyh on 04 April, 2017, 03:48:45 pm
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on 04 April, 2017, 03:52:13 pm
"Steve beat Amanda cokers climbing total yesterday .... day 30 v day 323. Shows you what he is up against"
I really didn't mean it as a criticism of Amanda Coker but someone must have taken it as so as they blocked me on Strava!
Pretty sad and petty that I now cant follow her rides. If you scroll back a page or two in this thread you will see I was nothing but complimentary of her attempt and I have often posted positive messages on her strava feed....its a strange world!
Post by: IJL on 04 April, 2017, 04:14:07 pm
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I posted this in the strava comments on Steve's ride yesterday...
"Steve beat Amanda cokers climbing total yesterday .... day 30 v day 323. Shows you what he is up against"
I really didn't mean it as a criticism of Amanda Coker but someone must have taken it as so as they blocked me on Strava!
Pretty sad and petty that I now cant follow her rides. If you scroll back a page or two in this thread you will see I was nothing but complimentary of her attempt and I have often posted positive messages on her strava feed....its a strange world!
It seems rather petty to block you for such a benign comment. AC's rides are remarkable achievements but TG's efforts have an extra dimension being on the open roads and on roads many of us will know well. It's easier to identify with someone who is riding in the same conditions as we are. It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt
Post by: The French Tandem on 04 April, 2017, 04:27:52 pm
Kurt did something incredible; he broke the record they said was unbreakable.
... but he didn't know it was unbreakable. That's why he broke it ;)
Post by: SoreTween on 04 April, 2017, 04:47:19 pm
I also wonder what is the point in setting a record in such circumstances. Is not the point of a record to highlight that one athletes effort, compared to that of other athletes, is superior? Without that comparison what purpose does a record serve?
Post by: mattc on 04 April, 2017, 05:06:41 pm
If us armchair observers are not permitted to compare and contrast the attempts what is left?Statements of numbers. That is what we are left with. Oh, and saying/posting "well done old chap" or "good jaaaarb dude!".
(fortunately some people love listing numbers. And collating them. And putting them in spreadsheets ... ;D )
Post by: orraloon on 04 April, 2017, 05:31:56 pm
... It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attemptBecause there is far less of the will she, won't she? I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.
Hers is one massive achievement.
Post by: Feanor on 04 April, 2017, 05:40:27 pm
... It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attemptBecause there is far less of the will she, won't she? I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.
Hers is one massive achievement.
Agree with your points.
Sorry for the OT, but I was wondering how many people here knew what your username means in the Doric.
I'm guessing it *is* Doric, and not something else....
Post by: IJL on 04 April, 2017, 06:05:08 pm
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Quote from: IJL on Today at 04:14:07 pm
... It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt
Because there is far less of the will she, won't she? I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.
Hers is one massive achievement
TBH I wasn't paying attention and I thought I was posting in TG's thread, AC has it in the bag for now
Post by: Wowbagger on 04 April, 2017, 06:08:05 pm
QuoteQuote from: IJL on Today at 04:14:07 pm
... It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt
Because there is far less of the will she, won't she? I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.
Hers is one massive achievement
TBH I wasn't paying attention and I thought I was posting in TG's thread, AC has it in the bag for now
Dangerous talk! She still has to ride another 300 miles or so! There's also the matter of UMCA ratifying it. I know of no reason why they shouldn't, but then I wouldn't, would I?
Post by: orraloon on 04 April, 2017, 07:00:33 pm
Aye min, a north east chiel noo a lang wye f'hame!... It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attemptBecause there is far less of the will she, won't she? I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.
Hers is one massive achievement.
Agree with your points.
Sorry for the OT, but I was wondering how many people here knew what your username means in the Doric.
I'm guessing it *is* Doric, and not something else....
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 April, 2017, 08:58:35 am
Post by: SoreTween on 05 April, 2017, 10:09:11 am
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 April, 2017, 01:20:10 pm
75966.7
Thanks for the correction. I dial an awful lot of incorrect phone numbers...
Post by: mattc on 05 April, 2017, 07:20:41 pm
Congratulations to Amanda Coker- Ultracyclist - HAM'R 2016, who has just broken my overall record for most miles ridden in a 365 day year. Alicia and I met Amanda back in Late November 2015 when we came to Flatwoods park to ride. She came out and rode with us every day I was in the park and I explained to her about the Hamr Record and how I knew she could set the women's record. Well she went a step further and now has surpassed my overall record. I was asked by a reporter how I felt, specifically if I was sad because I only held the record for 15 months. I said no, I knew I had to be the person to break the record, but once people knew it could be broken, and saw how easy it was to roll up miles at Flatwoods park it would only be a matter of time before a gifted and well disciplined rider that could ride in Flatwoods park all year long would break my record. Amanda still has a month to go so there is no telling how high the record will be.
Post by: Karla on 06 April, 2017, 09:27:21 am
Congratulations Amanda!
Post by: clarion on 06 April, 2017, 09:46:23 am
Post by: tonyh on 06 April, 2017, 10:47:24 am
From Tarzan's facebook page: [excellent message]
Already high respect for Tarzan increased further.
Massive congratulations to Amanda!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 April, 2017, 11:17:07 am
I'm not sure that the UMCA recognises an overall 'highest' category, just records in each category.
Kurt is indeed a good sport.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 06 April, 2017, 01:27:48 pm
Post by: mattc on 06 April, 2017, 01:40:45 pm
It has been pointed out on facebook that Kurt will continue to hold the HAMR for his age group.As will Steve! (he's in the male 18-49 group IIRC) :)
I'm not sure that the UMCA recognises an overall 'highest' category, just records in each category.
I believe you're right, but I think there's an unspoken/implicit acknowledgement that the highest number is ... well, the highest number! :P
Post by: Cmiller on 06 April, 2017, 03:45:35 pm
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view)
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 April, 2017, 04:14:35 pm
A video clip from just moments after Amanda broke the record-ty for that
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view)
I hadn't seen any vids of her bike for a while. Interesting that she's gone full disc on the rear and very aero on the front bars.
Read a discussion that said she rides the recumbent nearly 50% of the time, but any vids show her on an upright.
Post by: Karla on 06 April, 2017, 04:28:00 pm
Post by: Kim on 06 April, 2017, 05:55:23 pm
Read a discussion that said she rides the recumbent nearly 50% of the time, but any vids show her on an upright.
I think she used it more at the beginning, but I heard she was only really using it to ward off saddle sores, as she found she did better on the upright.
Post by: Cmiller on 06 April, 2017, 06:18:55 pm
A video clip from just moments after Amanda broke the record-ty for that
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view)
I hadn't seen any vids of her bike for a while. Interesting that she's gone full disc on the rear and very aero on the front bars.
Read a discussion that said she rides the recumbent nearly 50% of the time, but any vids show her on an upright.
Amanda has three bikes at her disposal- a standard road bike, a TT bike, and a recumbent. She spends time on each of them just about every day. The amount of time riding each varies day to day and there's really no set schedule or time target for riding any of her bikes.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 08 April, 2017, 05:46:05 am
Her current Eddington number is 232 (232 rides of 232 miles or more) for the year, but it can only go up to a maximum of 233, because of the number of rides she's done around 233 miles. She's reached 200 miles on 320 out of 328 days and 100 miles on 327 out of 328, which is astonishing consistency.
It will take a very determined attempt by a very able rider to beat her record.
Post by: LMT on 08 April, 2017, 03:25:30 pm
Post by: Phil W on 09 April, 2017, 09:47:05 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rN8WvXC-2A&feature=youtu.be
Post by: LMT on 09 April, 2017, 12:01:02 pm
Message from Steve to Amanda
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rN8WvXC-2A&feature=youtu.be
Class.
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 April, 2017, 01:41:07 pm
Message from Steve to Amanda
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rN8WvXC-2A&feature=youtu.be
Class.
He always was!
Post by: Cmiller on 11 April, 2017, 03:31:32 am
Asking for a friend :-)
Post by: SoreTween on 11 April, 2017, 08:22:22 am
Post by: Ian H on 11 April, 2017, 11:34:24 am
Post by: Citizenfish on 11 April, 2017, 11:55:15 am
Been trying to find Godwins "fastest to 100,000 miles" record on the Guinness website, but having no luck. Does anyone know if Guinness certified Tommy's 100,000 miles in 500 days, or was it only certified by Cycling Magazine?
Asking for a friend :-)
Nope they didn't and only recognised his year record after Ken Webb lodged his fraudulent attempt. Remember the book wasn't around until 1955 and Tommy set it in 1940.
EDIT: Cycling magazine verified it as you correctly stated.
Post by: Cmiller on 11 April, 2017, 02:12:39 pm
Nope they didn't and only recognised his year record after Ken Webb lodged his fraudulent attempt. Remember the book wasn't around until 1955 and Tommy set it in 1940.
EDIT: Cycling magazine verified it as you correctly stated.
Thank you. I had a feeling this was the case.
Post by: andyoxon on 12 April, 2017, 07:47:33 am
Post by: The French Tandem on 12 April, 2017, 11:06:08 am
AC's new distance PR on day 332 (https://www.strava.com/activities/938461526), 446km @ 34km/h..!
That's truly astonishing when you realize that back in 2015, the required daily mileage to beat the record was "only" 205 miles/ 330 km. Amanda will not just beat the record, she will push it into an area that was unthinkable just 2 years ago!
Post by: SoreTween on 12 April, 2017, 11:16:25 am
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on 12 April, 2017, 12:01:28 pm
AC's new distance PR on day 332 (https://www.strava.com/activities/938461526), 446km @ 34km/h..!
That's truly astonishing when you realize that back in 2015, the required daily mileage to beat the record was "only" 205 miles/ 330 km. Amanda will not just beat the record, she will push it into an area that was unthinkable just 2 years ago!
I'm not sure it was unthinkable.
For me it seemed entirely plausible that a younger rider, with genuine professional ambitions or experience, supported on a closed circuit could absolutely destroy any previous attempt.
Personally I think 300 miles a day might be beaten at some point - the equipment and environment now exists to make this possible. What we don't yet know is if anyone has the mentality to do it? Amanda Cokers physical achievement is great - but her mental accomplishment is for me the biggest thing. I don't think there have been many people who are mentally capable of these sort of distances in a year. Many of those who have been capable have held the record or are having a go at it as we speak.
I also think the record is unlikely to be taken on by too many people with racing pedigree unless it starts to reward them with either publicity or income. Amanda Coker is probably in a unique situation due to her unfortunate injuries to be racing fit and racing age but not actually in a race team.
When you consider that in 1936 - Walter Greaves managed 45k miles it doesn't seem such a big jump to todays record ...... especially when you also consider that Walter was a social outcast (and a communist) with very little support around him.... and that he was a vegetarian in a time where there wasn't much veggie food available on the go....... oh, and he also only had one arm and piloted a very heavy, unmodified 3 gear bike and did much of his riding around the Pennines in pretty poor weather!
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 April, 2017, 12:22:29 pm
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When you consider that in 1936 - Walter Greaves managed 45k miles it doesn't seem such a big jump to todays record ...... especially when you also consider that Walter was a social outcast (and a communist) with very little support around him.... and that he was a vegetarian in a time where there wasn't much veggie food available on the go....... oh, and he also only had one arm and piloted a very heavy, unmodified 3 gear bike and did much of his riding around the Pennines in pretty poor weather!
Pockets...? :P
Post by: mattc on 12 April, 2017, 02:46:29 pm
Post by: Greenbank on 12 April, 2017, 02:52:12 pm
Post by: clarion on 12 April, 2017, 03:44:00 pm
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on 12 April, 2017, 03:47:33 pm
a COMMUNIST?? By jove!
Self confessed! Walter Greaves is definitely my favorite holder of the Year - its just a brilliant story of British weirdness.
Having to sacrifice recovery time in the evenings to constantly remove, check and replace his tires because a puncture was a fairly big issue for him! These new competitors don't know they have it made - what with their two working arms and all.
Post by: andrew_s on 12 April, 2017, 06:01:57 pm
Amanda looks like pushing the record to 237.6 per day and an increase of 11646 miles over Tommy. Just riding that increase in a year would be a major undertaking.according to my calculator, assuming 260 mpd for the remaining days gives /only/ 236.66 mpd, and 265 mpd (which is what the concurrent months are running at gives 237.1 mpd
Post by: SoreTween on 13 April, 2017, 09:04:43 am
Post by: Cmiller on 14 April, 2017, 03:22:59 pm
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/468637-greatest-distance-cycled-in-a-year-umca
Post by: Manotea on 14 April, 2017, 11:30:31 pm
Post by: zigzag on 14 April, 2017, 11:49:17 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 16 April, 2017, 07:16:19 pm
Post by: Canardly on 16 April, 2017, 07:23:03 pm
Post by: Phil W on 16 April, 2017, 08:09:04 pm
Just a thought, Amanda is covering about the same distance each day as most of us covered on the Easter Arrow on Friday.
And in about 2/3 of the time.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 18 April, 2017, 10:24:44 pm
Post by: SoreTween on 19 April, 2017, 06:59:47 am
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 April, 2017, 06:10:34 pm
Post by: Cmiller on 20 April, 2017, 07:01:42 pm
She will pass 80000 miles tomorrow.
She passed 80k early this morning.
Post by: Wowbagger on 20 April, 2017, 08:26:58 pm
She will pass 80000 miles tomorrow.
She passed 80k early this morning.
I always had trouble with time zones...
Post by: Cmiller on 21 April, 2017, 02:53:37 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 21 April, 2017, 08:08:44 am
https://www.gofundme.com/goamandacoker
or paypal
www.paypal.me/amandacoker92
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on 21 April, 2017, 04:24:42 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18033072_1427213247344509_4108248000119133415_n.jpg?oh=9a3fe62a013c4c8a0d7e138a266f5a02&oe=59877DEF)
Have I got this right .. Amanda is about to start a go at the 100,000 mile record on May 14th. Can she not just add on miles and days to the current amazing sequence
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 21 April, 2017, 04:48:14 pm
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 21 April, 2017, 06:24:49 pm
BB
Post by: andyoxon on 22 April, 2017, 12:03:41 pm
This is beyond my understanding. I would fall apart both physically and mentally. How can you ride round in a loop for so long. It is mental - but that is probably why it is a record.
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She is clearly mentally very tough, and dedicated to the cause. She is probably so used to the loops now, that carrying on is 'no problem' at all. The knowledge that physically she can cope/is fast enough to recover well, the motivation for the record, and all the support of friends, family, visitors must really help.
Post by: Kim on 22 April, 2017, 07:40:33 pm
Post by: rafletcher on 22 April, 2017, 09:35:38 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 22 April, 2017, 09:49:17 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
As is the case with many brilliant achievers; they are wired differently and that helps them to do amazing things. It doesn't always give them an easier life though.
Post by: Cmiller on 23 April, 2017, 01:02:21 am
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 23 April, 2017, 12:45:40 pm
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 23 April, 2017, 02:39:14 pm
Anyone who watches videos of her riding, or the photos of her riding, would see that she is a sociable, friendly and open person.OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 23 April, 2017, 05:29:17 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
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While on a ride with her father a little over 3 miles from their house, she was struck by a car from behind and thrown nearly 100 feet.
"Dislocated shoulder, broken legs, broken back, brain injury," her father said. "She was literally hurt from head to toe."
The family moved to Zephyrhills in 2014.
In 2015, she rode from Florida to California on her bike. Upon her return, she decided to go for the world record for miles pedaled in a year.
Coker rides both a traditional upright and a recumbent bike and has to consume at least 5,500 calories a day.
"That girl can eat," her father said with a laugh. "She likes pizza, tacos, spaghetti, subs. She goes through a lot of Nutella because it has high calories in small samples."
And rarely does she listen to music.
"She likes to be alone with her thoughts."
For Coker's mother, Donna Coker, it's the mental barrier her daughter overcame that was most touching.
Her brain injury turned the once-outgoing Coker reclusive.
But after she broke the record Wednesday, Coker eagerly soaked in the adulation.
"That was so telling of how far she has come," her mother said.
Flatwoods Park, popular among bikers, also is where the men's record for most miles ridden in a year was set.
Kurt Searvogel of Little Rock, Ark., pedaled in eight states before completing the final laps of his 76,076-mile journey at Flatwoods in January. That record had stood since 1939.
Whether Coker pedals that far matters little to her. She said she just feels blessed to be able to ride again.
"I really don't have a mile goal," she said. "I just have a goal of doing my best."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569
The story of a promising college athlete, who has a setback, but fights back to claim a record with the help of her family and friends is inspiring. It's clearly a different path from the usual one. A young athlete would be expected to work their way though the shorter distances. I don't think there's any endurance advantage to older physiology.
Post by: rafletcher on 23 April, 2017, 07:26:15 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.
Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so. Just different personality to the mainstream.
Post by: LMT on 23 April, 2017, 07:32:30 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.
Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so. Just different personality to the mainstream.
Both of which you know sweet FA about.
Given her injuries it is perfectly reasonable and practical to expect her to stay away from the road whilst undertaking this record breaking ride, in addition to this you have the other practical elements that make riding around the park the most pragmatic approach.
Post by: mattc on 23 April, 2017, 07:55:52 pm
Indeed.OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.
Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so. Just different personality to the mainstream.
The following is PURE SPECULATION. But:
Brain injuries are complex things. They often never heal properly; it seems possible that AC still suffers in some way, and the symptoms may well affect her behaviour/personality.
At the same time - not speculation! - it is great to read about her recovery and dedication :thumbsup:
p.s. @rafletcher: I don't know how anyone can know that YOU know Sweet FA about any subject :-\
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 23 April, 2017, 09:40:58 pm
Post by: jsabine on 23 April, 2017, 10:46:28 pm
Indeed.OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.
Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so. Just different personality to the mainstream.
They're both commonly seen as disabilities or disadvantages though, which isn't too far from 'defect' in popular perception. In any case, I'm not sure that attempts to label people are very helpful, and still less when they come from a position of assumption or guesswork.
I just remain in awe of Amanda's determination, and absolutely staggered by the consistency she has brought to this.
Post by: clarion on 24 April, 2017, 11:48:44 am
Amanda is an exceptional athlete, physically and mentally, and it is really exciting she is going for the 100,000. I hope she does get it, and that it provokes interest in the achievement for other riders, just as Steve's interest in the Year has sparked off this wave of amazing activity and achievement.
I thought the UMCA didn't cover this record, though? Am I wrong, or is there another body validating?
Post by: Cmiller on 24 April, 2017, 12:57:28 pm
I thought the UMCA didn't cover this record, though? Am I wrong, or is there another body validating?
Amanda petitioned the UMCA to add the 100k mile category and the board approved it a little over a week ago.
Post by: clarion on 24 April, 2017, 03:41:48 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 01 May, 2017, 09:42:57 pm
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on 02 May, 2017, 08:05:34 am
8012.4 miles in April. Not quite Godwin's July 1939, but heading well over 86,000 miles for the year. Unbelievable.
Also shows you how good Godwins July was, even with the pacing and coaching it's still remarkable.
Post by: andyoxon on 02 May, 2017, 06:48:42 pm
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 02 May, 2017, 07:03:46 pm
Post by: mattc on 02 May, 2017, 08:26:57 pm
Anyone here think that Amanda could go for a 24hr record to finish off her year? If one extrapolates ~430km in 13hrs, 24hrs gets her close to 500mls. AFAIUI the 24hr record is Strasser's 556mls (896km).Would you like to make a wager? (winnings to charidee of course!) We can assume 556miles for this purpose.
Post by: andyoxon on 02 May, 2017, 10:12:09 pm
Post by: andyoxon on 02 May, 2017, 10:23:15 pm
I don't know what the paced female 24 hour record is.
Looks like here? https://www.ultracycling.com/timed/
24 Hour Road Nancy Raposo US Solo Standard Women 18-49 1992-09-22 439.65 mls 18.31mph (29.5km/h)
24 Hour Road Christoph Strasser 33 Austria Solo Standard Men 18-49 2015-03-20 556.856 23.3 (37.5km/h)
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 02 May, 2017, 10:25:25 pm
24 Hour
Christine Robert 461.45 miles (1993)
Lynne Taylor) 459 miles (2007)
All of those distances are unpaced, of course.
Post by: Cmiller on 03 May, 2017, 12:21:42 am
I don't know what the paced female 24 hour record is.
Looks like here? https://www.ultracycling.com/timed/
24 Hour Road Nancy Raposo US Solo Standard Women 18-49 1992-09-22 439.65 mls 18.31mph (29.5km/h)
24 Hour Road Christoph Strasser 33 Austria Solo Standard Men 18-49 2015-03-20 556.856 23.3 (37.5km/h)
These aren't paced. The UMCA doesn't have a category for 24hr paced records.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 03 May, 2017, 12:26:11 am
Post by: Cmiller on 03 May, 2017, 12:33:56 am
From http://cyclinguphill.com/time-trial-records/
24 Hour
Christine Robert 461.45 miles (1993)
Lynne Taylor) 459 miles (2007)
All of those distances are unpaced, of course.
Sarah Cooper rode 494.5 miles at the non-drafting Sebring 24hr TT this past Feb.
http://www.racesmith.com/results/2017results/BikeSebring24Hours021117.html (http://www.racesmith.com/results/2017results/BikeSebring24Hours021117.html)
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 03 May, 2017, 05:47:52 am
Post by: rob on 03 May, 2017, 08:55:19 am
After nearly a quarter century, the women's 24hr distance was overdue for updating. I wonder when BB's 12hr will be bested. That one is coming up to a half century.
Jill Wilkinson is getting steadily closer. If she'd have had better conditions on the Breckland last year I think she would have got it.
Post by: Jaded on 03 May, 2017, 09:24:30 am
After nearly a quarter century, the women's 24hr distance was overdue for updating. I wonder when BB's 12hr will be bested. That one is coming up to a half century.
Shouldn't they be expunged from the records...?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 03 May, 2017, 09:38:39 am
Post by: mattc on 03 May, 2017, 01:44:01 pm
Post by: Phil W on 06 May, 2017, 08:44:17 pm
Post by: The French Tandem on 07 May, 2017, 11:18:24 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 May, 2017, 11:43:26 am
Post by: andyoxon on 07 May, 2017, 11:52:26 am
Looks like she's on target yo set the year record to around 86,500. So another 10,000 on the current record.
or 86086..? ;)
Post by: SoreTween on 07 May, 2017, 03:51:41 pm
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 May, 2017, 11:37:27 am
Post by: hulver on 12 May, 2017, 03:37:32 pm
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 May, 2017, 04:11:03 pm
I wonder if she'll do a 300 miler on her last day?Not her last day, as she's going for the 100k record.
Post by: Cmiller on 13 May, 2017, 03:20:02 am
I wonder if she'll do a 300 miler on her last day?
She did 302 today.
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 May, 2017, 08:29:57 am
Post by: SoreTween on 13 May, 2017, 09:51:47 am
Post by: orraloon on 15 May, 2017, 09:29:57 am
Phenomenal.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 15 May, 2017, 11:11:55 am
Post by: Ashaman42 on 15 May, 2017, 11:12:42 am
Post by: LMT on 15 May, 2017, 12:22:39 pm
http://www.bicycling.com/rides/records/is-amanda-coker-for-real
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 May, 2017, 12:27:36 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 15 May, 2017, 01:05:18 pm
At her annual pace (237 mpd), the 100,000 should come up on the 10th July.
Post by: Citizenfish on 15 May, 2017, 01:34:13 pm
Well done Amanda.
http://www.bicycling.com/rides/records/is-amanda-coker-for-real
Very interesting and insightful article
Post by: clarion on 15 May, 2017, 02:56:00 pm
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 May, 2017, 04:30:45 pm
Well done Amanda.
http://www.bicycling.com/rides/records/is-amanda-coker-for-real
Very interesting and insightful article
Apart from the error!
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Searvogel was finishing his own record year of riding. He would become the first person to truly attempt—and succeed in breaking—the Highest Annual Mileage Record, which had last been set in 1939 by a British man named Tommy Godwin.
I won't give him any leeway for the interjection "and succeed in breaking". He was 11 days behind The Man who inspired all this.
Post by: yossarian22 on 16 May, 2017, 08:11:17 am
Imagine being told this was going to happen a couple of years ago? No chance.
She must surely be an outlier of outliers.
Bravo!
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 May, 2017, 10:18:15 am
Post by: Phil W on 16 May, 2017, 11:20:02 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwFpJQah2FY&feature=youtu.be
Looks like a great cycling facility
Post by: The French Tandem on 16 May, 2017, 12:02:12 pm
Not sure if this was posted at the time but a loop around Flatwoods Park with Amanda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwFpJQah2FY&feature=youtu.be
Looks like a great cycling facility
I got bored before the end of this 10 minutes video. I cannot figure out how anyone could manage to do that for a year!
Post by: clarion on 16 May, 2017, 12:05:22 pm
I recall when a group from another place rode a 200km IIRC around Regents Park, and reported it to be mind-numbingly dull.
I wonder how many circuits Amanda has done? Amazing persistence.
Post by: Phil W on 16 May, 2017, 12:10:51 pm
Post by: clarion on 16 May, 2017, 01:20:11 pm
Post by: andrew_s on 16 May, 2017, 02:18:28 pm
Isn't it a 7 miles circuit so roughly 12,350 times around it?Probably a bit less.
She's been doing a regular trip up and down some cycling tracks in a neighbouring housing area (until the park opens, probably). On the couple of occasions I counted, it was 30 or 31 laps, iirc.
Post by: andrew531 on 17 May, 2017, 10:53:46 am
IIRC, Richmond Park is about seven miles (albeit lumpier). That puts it in perspective.
It's just under 7 miles. I think the most laps I've managed there is 8 and I've had to vary it by doing a few smaller circuits via White Lodge and a few clockwise laps to spice it up. Saying that on shorter and perhaps more importantly flatter circuits ( e.g. Hillingdon, Velopark and Cyclopark ) it seems easier to keep going.
Amanda's achievement is nothing short of astonishing. She'd raised the bar by a huge margin!
Post by: clarion on 17 May, 2017, 10:55:52 am
Post by: tonyh on 17 May, 2017, 12:40:44 pm
Amanda's mental resilience is superlative.
Superlative is the right word! Applies to her riding too.
(Laps: I wonder if she keeps an eye on getting ahead of [or chasing] a scheduled time per lap? Works for me on Richmond Park... gets more enjoyable after the first two or three!)
Post by: Greenbank on 17 May, 2017, 01:53:57 pm
I've never managed more than three laps of RP without getting bored (and/or my legs ruined by Bastard Hill). Amanda's mental resilience is superlative.
I've done 500+ laps in the last few years (up to 6 laps per ride) and see something new each time but, yes, I can't imagine 30+ laps day in day out...
Post by: Cmiller on 18 May, 2017, 01:38:34 pm
I got bored before the end of this 10 minutes video. I cannot figure out how anyone could manage to do that for a year!
I've put in over 70k miles myself at Flatwoods over the past 10 years and never once been bored riding there. I think that it has a lot to do with the fact that it has 20+ jogs/turns and only a few short straight sections over the course of 7 miles. You do not feel like you're going in circles while riding there.
Post by: yossarian22 on 24 May, 2017, 11:40:50 am
Post by: andrew_s on 25 May, 2017, 02:27:23 pm
I'd guess that the 275 was "seen the weather forecast for tomorrow" mileage
Post by: Martin on 25 May, 2017, 10:42:28 pm
Post by: clarion on 25 May, 2017, 10:52:56 pm
Post by: SoreTween on 25 May, 2017, 11:05:07 pm
When does Amanda's year finish? I though it was the 23rdIt has finished, the 14th was day 365 (https://www.strava.com/activities/986744773) she is now continuing to take the 100,000 mile record.
... 130.2Amanda has 20 days over 275 miles to her credit, I would say it was more 'back up to speed'. Speed is the wrong word, she didn't slow at all. The reverse actually, she took a short day to QoM pretty much everything in Flatwoods after completing the year. She took a few other short days too (rest? Does she know the meaning of the word?). She then ramped up to her usual time in the saddle coincidently the day before it got a tad breezy.
I'd guess that the 275 was "seen the weather forecast for tomorrow" mileage
Post by: Martin on 26 May, 2017, 12:26:19 am
This is the 100,000.
ok; I was just following the HAMR (as in A) link
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 July, 2017, 04:28:58 am
Post by: SoreTween on 03 July, 2017, 09:14:01 am
She had slipped a bit since the end of the year, the projection at year pace had her completing on day 418. Hurricane season and the odd spot of sanity in her schedule had seen that slip just into day 422. If she's intending to keep that advantage rather than just do it to muck with our heads some more and recover with lower days after that will put her back into day 421. If she can keep big efforts going with her ability you can't rule day 420 out even at this late stage. Think about that - fitting an extra 240 or so miles into 6 days rather than taking a 7th.
Go Amanda!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 July, 2017, 09:44:10 am
Just when I thought she was winding down a bit (she's been posting about taking it easy, that this is more of a holiday)!
Post by: orraloon on 11 July, 2017, 09:36:12 am
Wonder what she will do tomorrow?
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 July, 2017, 10:26:42 am
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 July, 2017, 10:38:37 am
Her last day today then. 227 to go to reach 100,000 miles in 423 days. Respect.Lie in bed
Wonder what she will do tomorrow?
According to one interview, she is a 'normal lazy 20-something who doesn't like getting up early and would prefer to lie in bed until midday'.
riiight.
Post by: toontra on 11 July, 2017, 10:44:22 am
I bet she goes for a bike ride.
A recovery ride is often recommended after a tough event ;)
It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next. I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.
Post by: clarion on 11 July, 2017, 10:55:00 am
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 July, 2017, 01:20:56 pm
I bet she goes for a bike ride.
A recovery ride is often recommended after a tough event ;)
It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next. I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.
Given that she has been riding pretty much flat out for 400 days and more, how long should the recovery ride last?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 11 July, 2017, 08:37:40 pm
We humans are creatures of habit and we like to know where we are and what we do next. Some take this repetition a long way and some to really incredible lengths.I bet she goes for a bike ride.
A recovery ride is often recommended after a tough event ;)
It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next. I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.
Given that she has been riding pretty much flat out for 400 days and more, how long should the recovery ride last?
It will take some time to settle into a new pattern, when people retire it can take them a couple of years to get use to the change. Amanda is younger and it will not take as long, but it will take a while.
BB
Post by: Kim on 11 July, 2017, 09:24:37 pm
I bet she goes for a bike ride.
...to the moon!
Post by: orraloon on 11 July, 2017, 09:28:46 pm
Post by: toontra on 12 July, 2017, 08:31:44 am
Steve should be proud. Without his efforts and vision Kurt most likely wouldn't have been inspired to take on the year, and without Kurt's encouragement Amanda may not have attempted the year and 100,000. Just shows how our actions can impact on others in unforeseen ways sometimes.
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 July, 2017, 12:54:29 pm
Well, that's another record knocked off. Well done Amanda!
Steve should be proud. Without his efforts and vision Kurt most likely wouldn't have been inspired to take on the year, and without Kurt's encouragement Amanda may not have attempted the year and 100,000. Just shows how our actions can impact on others in unforeseen ways sometimes.
I have absolutely no doubt that without Steve resurrecting this, Tommy Godwin would still be the record holder. That doesn't detract from the others' achievements, but it does set a marker of what a first rate cycling visionary Steve is, not to mention a world-class distance cyclist and a thoroughly decent bloke (bad puns notwithstanding!).
Post by: Cmiller on 08 September, 2017, 02:49:30 pm
It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next. I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.
Amanda entered her first time trial since completing the year/100k mile records last night and did extremely well. She won the women's division and also set a new women's record on the 15k Fort Desoto course completing it in 21.07 at 26.5 mph avg.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 September, 2017, 10:36:49 am
It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next. I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.
Training on a turbo trainer in a disney hotel bedroom in Florida. It's a tad too windy outside for cycling.
Hotel room is too small to fit easily fit in the turbo trainer, so it is wedged through the bathroom door.
Post by: Aidan on 23 October, 2021, 12:38:22 pm
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Amanda Coker is about to become the 1st woman to break the 500 miles barrier for 24-hours, solo. She is currently at 492 miles with over an hour left