I still hate the new Arrivee design

[willpom gwraudax]

My son was disappointed with this Arrivee, again! Please include more pictures with triangular drain covers in, it'll make his day.

Otherwise I think the new style is great. Shows the organisation is going forward. And what is wrong with circles? They are great containers for non leading images. Perhaps though a few could be contained in sprocket and chainring outlines so they aren't all mistaken for wheels? 

[mmmmartin]

Well FWIW my opinion is that it's excellent and the articles very interesting. So much so that I've put it aside for deeper reading when I get a bit of time. It's not for rushing through. I also especially liked the woman's view of touring which is good enough to be in The Guardian, I think.

[Delph Cyclist]

Is nobody to be allowed an opinion without being told to do it themselves?  Certainly the effort involved is both colossal and colossally appreciated.  Does that mean comment is forbidden?

Peter

I hope I wasn't saying comment is forbidden, just that slagging Arrivee off in public isn't necessarily a very effective method.  As I pointed out, there is a vacancy for Communications Director, and my perception is that the vacancy isn't due to excessive negativity with Arrivee but it may have played a small part.  For my part, I have offered some opinions privately to the Communications Director and I believe they were kindly received.

[postie]

Whats going on i ask myself, articles of young attractive ladies and children out enjoying there bikes. No,no. This is unacceptable,  this is all wrong i tell you. Were are the grumpy old men with sandles and beards , this gives the wrong idea of audax

Ok . i think its great

[Aidan]

Well my copy turned up this morning and its wonderful.  Lots of interesting articles, people on bikes enjoying themselves,even invisible arms. The whole thing is an absolute credit to Audax UK and those who put it together.

[citoyen]

this simply isn't good design. (I was in magazine production 1987 - 2001.)

Well, I've only been involved in magazine production since the late 90s so my opinion is obviously not worth much, but I entirely disagree with you.

[damerell]

I generally don't mind the new design but I wish the cover said "Arrivee" not WWWee.

[citoyen]

Whats going on i ask myself, articles of young attractive ladies and children out enjoying there bikes.

Fancy having a young, athletic-looking woman on the cover. People could be mistaken into believing it's the 21st century or something.

[zigzag]

it may even make riding in big-big 'rings fashionable..

[Ian H]

it may even make riding in big-big 'rings fashionable..

That'll make people cross.

[mattc]

There are some really nice pictures this month, so I totally disagree with everyone that has slagged them off.

[mattc]

it may even make riding in big-big 'rings fashionable..

That'll make people cross.

I'm torn between groaning at Ian's "observation", or commenting on how everyone spots something relevant to their own interests in a photo

[Jaded]

There should be a ban on helmet mentions though.

[Ian H]

There should be a ban on helmet mentions though.

Perhaps there could be an editorial policy to amend every mention of 'helmet'.  What word or phrase might be a suitable replacement?

[mattc]

There should be a ban on helmet mentions though.

Perhaps there could be an editorial policy to amend every mention of 'helmet'.  What word or phrase might be a suitable replacement?

Shrubbery.

[barakta]

I haven't looked at Kim's copy closely but I quite liked the new layout the circles work well from what I can see.

[Peter]

Is nobody to be allowed an opinion without being told to do it themselves?  Certainly the effort involved is both colossal and colossally appreciated.  Does that mean comment is forbidden?

Peter

I hope I wasn't saying comment is forbidden, just that slagging Arrivee off in public isn't necessarily a very effective method.  As I pointed out, there is a vacancy for Communications Director, and my perception is that the vacancy isn't due to excessive negativity with Arrivee but it may have played a small part.  For my part, I have offered some opinions privately to the Communications Director and I believe they were kindly received.

No, I didn't take your post like that, at all, Mike.  As usual you are an exemplar of how to be reasonable.

peter

[quixoticgeek]

I generally don't mind the new design but I wish the cover said "Arrivee" not WWWee.

Agreed. There was a small discussion about this on twitter earlier, I had a number of people look at it, including a couple of people who work in accessibility.

The verdict was:

"I read it as ah-wooh-wooh-wooh-weee."

and

"Looks like wwee to me"

I don't know how the font on the front got past accessibility testing. This Dyslexic can't read it properly atall.

Content inside seems ok, the first one I got seemed a bit light on non male riders in the pictures. Based on the cover image of the latest, I have reasonable hope this one may not suffer the same.

J

[Arry-R]

Whats going on i ask myself, articles of young attractive ladies and children out enjoying there bikes. No,no. This is unacceptable,  this is all wrong i tell you. Were are the grumpy old men with sandles and beards , this gives the wrong idea of audax

Ok . i think its great

 

[Karla]

My son was disappointed with this Arrivee, again! Please include more pictures with triangular drain covers in, it'll make his day.

Otherwise I think the new style is great. Shows the organisation is going forward. And what is wrong with circles? They are great containers for non leading images. Perhaps though a few could be contained in sprocket and chainring outlines so they aren't all mistaken for wheels? 

I doubt the complainers will mistake them for wheels unless they've got at least 36 spokes.

[Bairn Again]

just got mine today and loved it.

[vorsprung]

I have no experience with magazine layout except for running an anarchist fanzine in the 80s

I think the new layout is just fine.  The obvious effort that's has gone into trying to improve the magazine impresses me

[bludger]

I like the new format a lot and hopefully the editors push the boat out a bit more as they grow comfortable with the theme. Definitely something I think will be more likely to be read by the next punter I offer my copy to once I've finished it.

[Kim]

Must be doing something right, I found barakta reading it earlier.  Her only complaint was poor contrast on some of the text due to bad choice of background.

[orejas]

I have to say I think the important bit to me is the content, and it was pretty readable with some nice pics too, so no complaints. I would happily pay for it separately to my Audax fee.