Author Topic: Eagerly awaiting n+1 (Read 4499 times)

marylogic · « **on:** 09 July, 2013, 04:49:34 pm »

I have already posted about my lovely Circe but I have been thinking (and inspired by others on yacf) that a full size tandem might be a really good idea for audax.

Having minimal cash (and not wanting to fork out too much incase we hate it) I bought a starter tandem on ebay - it's a 501 steel framed dawes "backstreet" but more importantly it is red. I know they were pretty much entry level but it appears to have been well loved and I am happy to tinker about with components when the funding stream improves.

Expected Date of Delivery is friday - I am very excited.....just need to find space in the garage now.

Russell · « **Reply #1 on:** 10 July, 2013, 08:56:03 am »

Well done 'Mary'. Hope you both get on with it.

Garage space is a perennial problem though. I find myself having to move 4-5 bikes and a tandem just to work in the garage now. OK when it's fine, not so good when it's wet. Mind you 'my' garage seems to have inherited a freezer and a washing machine so there is even less space now.

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Butterfly · « **Reply #2 on:** 10 July, 2013, 05:39:10 pm »

Woo! New tandem

We keep the tandems in the dining room.

HTFB · « **Reply #3 on:** 10 July, 2013, 08:51:40 pm »

Quote from: marylogic on 09 July, 2013, 04:49:34 pm

Having minimal cash (and not wanting to fork out too much incase we hate it) I bought a starter tandem on ebay - it's a 501 steel framed dawes "backstreet" but more importantly it is red. I know they were pretty much entry level but it appears to have been well loved and I am happy to tinker about with components when the funding stream improves.

That looks very similar in build to my Street Scene, which has been my solo bike for, um, 17 years now. The Street Scene frame is indistinguishable from a Horizon of the period; it's heavy but well made with good braze-ons, cable runs, etc. Definitely several steps above the level of a Bike Shaped Object (should that be TSO?) and worth putting love into. Well done!

marylogic · « **Reply #4 on:** 12 July, 2013, 11:34:28 am »

Quote from: Butterfly on 10 July, 2013, 05:39:10 pm

Woo! New tandem

We keep the tandems in the dining room.

Brilliant! Don't think I could persuade mrlogic though....

Tandem arrived this morning. With original owner's manual and immaculate frame. Could do with new saddles and I think I'll put skinnier tyres on, but all in all pretty good for £220

clarion · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 July, 2013, 11:39:47 am »

mrlogic will come round eventually.

Oooh! Presents! Pics asap, please!

marylogic · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 July, 2013, 01:39:53 pm »

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Here it is!

clarion · « **Reply #7 on:** 12 July, 2013, 02:02:06 pm »

Oscar's dad · « **Reply #8 on:** 13 July, 2013, 10:29:51 am »

I think you've got yourself a bargain there! Happy riding!

Feline · « **Reply #9 on:** 13 July, 2013, 12:04:56 pm »

That looks very nice, and excellent value for money

Hope you both enjoy it!

Butterfly · « **Reply #10 on:** 14 July, 2013, 03:00:34 am »

That looks beautiful

marylogic · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 July, 2013, 07:46:48 am »

Thanks everyone! I think mrlogic has come round too - it is the perfect size for him, and he has now started calling it "our tandem" rather than "your tandem"

clarion · « **Reply #12 on:** 16 July, 2013, 09:36:44 am »

There's no escape for him now!

Vince · « **Reply #13 on:** 16 July, 2013, 11:24:02 am »

Looks good.

N+1 seems an insufficient increment for a tandem

Emily · « **Reply #14 on:** 19 July, 2013, 04:44:21 pm »

Ooh, pretty! Hope you both have lots of fun riding it.

We tend to talk about t+1. Sadly, it's all talk. We've only just got the tandem we do have out of the living room (where it lived just inside the front door for several years), by buying a bigger shed...

Kim · « **Reply #15 on:** 19 July, 2013, 05:48:29 pm »

Problem with t+1 is that it's easily confused with n+1.5

n+2/2?

loadsabikes · « **Reply #16 on:** 19 July, 2013, 06:06:44 pm »

That looks like a bargain

Should have bought a nice Thorn Adventure though

clarion · « **Reply #17 on:** 19 July, 2013, 09:57:27 pm »

Quote from: Kim on 19 July, 2013, 05:48:29 pm

Problem with t+1 is that it's easily confused with n+1.5

n+2/2?

I maintain that it is only n+0.75*

* each

Kim · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 July, 2013, 10:01:07 pm »

Wouldn't that be a tandem trike?

(my brain's too hot for this sort of thing)

clarion · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 July, 2013, 10:58:06 pm »

It depends how you offset the wheel shortfall against the extra frame tubing.

marylogic · « **Reply #20 on:** 19 July, 2013, 11:40:41 pm »

Quote from: loadsabikes on 19 July, 2013, 06:06:44 pm

That looks like a bargain
Should have bought a nice Thorn Adventure though

Mrlogic and I have agreed we will get a Thorn at some unidentified point in the future when cashflow improves

I wonder if the N+1 /T+1 / N+2/2 debate depends on whether the tandem is being bought by 2 people who both require a new bike (presumably N+2/2), or it is being bought by one person who likes tandems ?T+1.5 or someone who generally likes bikes and finds a tandem fills the N+1 requirement?

jogler · « **Reply #21 on:** 19 February, 2014, 09:05:28 pm »

My blind stoker & I collect an n+1 Dawes Galaxy Twin tomorrow

clarion · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 February, 2014, 08:18:31 am »

Excellent.

eck · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 February, 2014, 08:42:17 am »

Quote from: jogler on 19 February, 2014, 09:05:28 pm

My blind stoker & I collect an n+1 Dawes Galaxy Twin tomorrow

Good for you, sir. Hope you both have lots of happy miles.

stuart.woodsell · « **Reply #24 on:** 10 March, 2014, 05:08:33 am »

Looks like you got yourself a real steal there! Not sure you had much of a problem finding space in the garage ;-)