Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Mr Larrington on 05 July, 2015, 04:41:37 pm
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This year's early favourite in the "How Many Different Ways Can ITV's Colemantators Pronounce A Rider's Name Competition is definitely Quintana who - IIRC - has already been "Cantata" and "Cartagena". With doubtless more to come. Thank goodness for sanity in the form of Super Jens :thumbsup:
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Might stream NBC to see Mr Shut up Legs :)
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German commentary (partly by Tony Rominger) much better.
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You'd have to be very careful setting the rules for a Phil'n'Paul TdF commentary drinking game, because you'd be ratted before the first advert break on the evening's highlights show. :demon:
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<geometry pedantry>Yesterday we had from Phil "the riders are turning through 360 degrees, back they way they've come". No Phil, that's 180 degrees at that roundabout. They left that gaffe in for the highlights programme too :facepalm: </geometry pedantry>
Ah, so it wasn't just me mutering at the tv at that point?
You'd have to be very careful setting the rules for a Phil'n'Paul TdF commentary drinking game, because you'd be ratted before the first advert break on the evening's highlights show. :demon:
Oh what a lovely idea.
How old is Phil? I saw him on the Slaying The Badger doc last night in an interview nearly 30 years old, and he didn't look very different.
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How old is Phil? I saw him on the Slaying The Badger doc last night in an interview nearly 30 years old, and he didn't look very different.
He sleeps in a coffin filled with his native soil? That, or he's got a portrait in the attic...
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Or they freeze him in between races? He's wise to it now but somehow (a la Mr T) they still manage to sedate him at the end of each race and get him back on ice.
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Did anyone notice the bit at the end of the stage yesterday when one of them said "because technically we are racing below sea level here" as the riders were riding over the dam, with the sea below them on either side?
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Did anyone notice the bit at the end of the stage yesterday when one of them said "because technically we are racing below sea level here" as the riders were riding over the dam, with the sea below them on either side?
No, but I've been hypnotically-conditioned to zone out P&P's commentary on hearing the trigger word 'suitcase', so as to avoid getting to bothered about it. I just watch it for the pretty pictures. ;D
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I was amazed with the Paul Sherwin successful pronunciation of dutch place names (Gouda, Zeeland), today we learned he used to live in Belgium.
Peter Sagan must be confused whether he calls himself Sah-gan, Sar-gun, Suh-gurn.....
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This year's early favourite in the "How Many Different Ways Can ITV's Colemantators Pronounce A Rider's Name Competition is definitely Quintana who - IIRC - has already been "Cantata" and "Cartagena".
I think you should count your quote marks before you criticise others.
Tssk, the standard of pedantry on this forum slips every year ...
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Phil and Paul are a pair of dicks - I can't imagine why anyone would pay them to commentate.
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"Flemland", Phil?
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Cobblestones. Again.
Time for fire and sticks.
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Phil and Paul are a pair of dicks...
But they are by no means the worst.
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Aww, c'mon. It just wouldn't be the TdF without P&P. It'd be like a pantomime without a Dame.
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I'm paraphrasing here, but in a slightly condescending tone, "Now don't worry, none of those riders in yellow on the ground are the yellow jersey of Cancellara, those are the team colours of... Oh! That's Cancellara!"
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At least you don't have the Carlton and Sean highlights show.
"We're going to a commercial. Coming up we have Froome in Yellow...."
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I'm paraphrasing here, but in a slightly condescending tone, "Now don't worry, none of those riders in yellow on the ground are the yellow jersey of Cancellara, those are the team colours of... Oh! That's Cancellara!"
A classic :thumbsup:
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I'm paraphrasing here, but in a slightly condescending tone, "Now don't worry, none of those riders in yellow on the ground are the yellow jersey of Cancellara, those are the team colours of... Oh! That's Cancellara!"
A classic :thumbsup:
Don't forget they are pretty reliant on watching a monitor at the finish line and whatever info race radio provides. I had to look at the replays a couple of times before I saw FC go into the ditch and his bike catapult out. Not as easy as it might seem trying to follow the race and commentate when information is so limited and someone else is in complete control of what you see.
However, as armchair experts, I suppose it is our duty to comment. Personally, I'm just pleased I can watch it live on ITV4 for free (ie no pay to view service) and just reduce the volume if I find the commentary tiresome. What's that old saying that goes something like "easier to light a candle than complain about the dark", but I realise that complaining is always easier.
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Did my ears deceive me or did Mr Sherwen really compare the peloton to a distillery ???
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No, Phil, "six hundred tenths of a second" is a minute and not the very very small time gap separating Froome and Martin :facepalm:
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I'm paraphrasing here, but in a slightly condescending tone, "Now don't worry, none of those riders in yellow on the ground are the yellow jersey of Cancellara, those are the team colours of... Oh! That's Cancellara!"
A classic :thumbsup:
Don't forget they are pretty reliant on watching a monitor at the finish line and whatever info race radio provides. I had to look at the replays a couple of times before I saw FC go into the ditch and his bike catapult out. Not as easy as it might seem trying to follow the race and commentate when information is so limited and someone else is in complete control of what you see.
However, as armchair experts, I suppose it is our duty to comment. Personally, I'm just pleased I can watch it live on ITV4 for free (ie no pay to view service) and just reduce the volume if I find the commentary tiresome. What's that old saying that goes something like "easier to light a candle than complain about the dark", but I realise that complaining is always easier.
I'm not sure why Lotto can race in yellow. In the 90s ONCE used to change to pink kit for the Tour so as not to confuse the viewer. I believe Mercatone Uno did the same.
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Indeed. Little wonder the commentators find it challenging at times to identify who is who.
Bad enough on my 190cm TV let alone a relatively small monitor in the 'press/commentator booths' at the finish line.
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You've got a 6 foot telly?
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You've got a 6 foot telly?
Tut tut. You're confusing me with a certain social strata. Projected image. Could have it 20m if I so decided (but best wait until dark for that!)
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Carlton Kirby looking at helicopter footage of a wind generator: "They don't power them, but they get power from them"
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"9 times out of 10 this would be impossible!" ;D
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I was amazed with the Paul Sherwin successful pronunciation of dutch place names (Gouda, Zeeland), today we learned he used to live in Belgium.
He made a proper meal of "Peter van Petegem" today though.
I bought a pair of gloves from van Petegem's shop in 2004, trivia fans, having earlier beaten his virtual self up one of the Tour of Flanders climbs as replicated in the basement of that race's museum.
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Was watching a Youtube of The Tour in 1994 when it came through Portsmouth.
Phil said something along the lines of "The HMS Victory, Lord Nelson's flagship, the ship that helped defeat the Army of Napolean".
It was then I realised Napolean's big error, bringing the Army to a Naval battle.
In fairness though I actually don't mind Phil & Paul. It's background waffle, like the shipping forecast.
I'd also challenge anyone on the Forum to waffle on for 5 hours, using only a random video feed, without saying something crass on occasion.
Here's some expert commentary from the famous Klaus Binn win of '95 (you know, the stage when the car driver was disqualified for carrying bikes on the roof).
Klaus Binn Wins Stage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D568_-2E2Uo)
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I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs. Who wouldn't make mistakes in a commentary lasting 4-5 or 6 hours long. I couldn't do it.
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I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs.
Aye, I, for two.
In fact, I find most of the racing dull. I'm convinced that to actually enjoy 5 hours of TdF tv coverage you need to be in a bar in a tiny French village drinking Pastis and wine.
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In fairness though I actually don't mind Phil & Paul. It's background waffle, like the shipping forecast.
I'd also challenge anyone on the Forum to waffle on for 5 hours, using only a random video feed, without saying something crass on occasion.
I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs. Who wouldn't make mistakes in a commentary lasting 4-5 or 6 hours long. I couldn't do it.
I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs.
Aye, I, for two.
In fact, I find most of the racing dull. I'm convinced that to actually enjoy 5 hours of TdF tv coverage you need to be in a bar in a tiny French village drinking Pastis and wine.
Indeed.
But pointing out errors appears to be so interesting and important that I wonder if some are actually watching what is happening or just intently listening to what is being said so it can be immediately reported here to heap disdain on 2 seemingly honest folk with a little bit of cycling knowledge/experience who are trying to make what is often a fairly dull spectacle somewhat more interesting.
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I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs.
Aye, I, for two.
In fact, I find most of the racing dull. I'm convinced that to actually enjoy 5 hours of TdF tv coverage you need to be in a bar in a tiny French village drinking Pastis and wine.
I'm in a bar, drinking Pastis near a tiny French village and there's not even a faint whiff of the Tour.....it's weird.
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I'm in a bar, drinking Pastis near a tiny French village and there's not even a faint whiff of the Tour.....it's weird.
Wrong bar!
What are you doing in Bordeaux?
Look forward to catching-up on Friday.
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Loafing about, as usual.
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I can just about tolerate them but mainly, I think, because I can't tolerate Carlton Kirby. I find I can't help counting CK's 'I guess' es, and anticipating the point at which he'll suggest that someone will 'go long', to the detriment of my enjoyment of the action and Sean Kelly's verbal idiosyncrasies. But I positively liked Dave Harmon's commentary (has he returned from his absence yet?) and Rob Hatch's.
Also, with ITV4 you get the somewhat cool Gary Imlach, and the mixture of silliness/insight from Boardman/Boulting. In avoiding Carlton Kirby I don't know who's doing the anchor job on Eurosport, if anyone.
And in Wales we also get the same live coverage and a half-hour (badly) edited highlights show in Welsh. I can understand enough of the language to understand that they seem - understandably enough - interested in Thomas and Rowe, but the commentary of yesterday's finale completely missed the thrill of Martin's attack and victory.
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I'm in a bar, drinking Pastis near a tiny French village and there's not even a faint whiff of the Tour.....it's weird.
Report them to the authorities.
Though Pinot's doing so badly that there may have been a ban on public broadcasting...
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"Tony Martin ..." (approaching the stage end, in yellow) "... would increase his overall lead if he were to win this".
;D
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Well that one was true
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In fairness though I actually don't mind Phil & Paul. It's background waffle, like the shipping forecast.
I'd also challenge anyone on the Forum to waffle on for 5 hours, using only a random video feed, without saying something crass on occasion.
I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs. Who wouldn't make mistakes in a commentary lasting 4-5 or 6 hours long. I couldn't do it.
I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs.
Aye, I, for two.
In fact, I find most of the racing dull. I'm convinced that to actually enjoy 5 hours of TdF tv coverage you need to be in a bar in a tiny French village drinking Pastis and wine.
Indeed.
But pointing out errors appears to be so interesting and important that I wonder if some are actually watching what is happening or just intently listening to what is being said so it can be immediately reported here to heap disdain on 2 seemingly honest folk with a little bit of cycling knowledge/experience who are trying to make what is often a fairly dull spectacle somewhat more interesting.
I suppose it could be worse, they could be being paid for doing it.
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I find it amusing how Phil and Paul don't talk about Armstrong at all. Pantani got a mention the other day, probably when Phil forgot he was on the list of those not to be mentioned. There's a strange etiquette of not talking about you know what.
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There's a strange etiquette of not talking about you know what.
What, you mean Lord Voldemort? Or do bad things happen only when you say "Armstrong" three times at midnight when there's a full moon, whilst standing in front of a mirror? I can never remember... ;)
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The "not mentioning you know what" even applies to riders still competing. Contador is praised as being at or close to the top for the past decade, with no mention of the fact that he tested positive for something, or that he was part of Armstrong's team for a while. The commentary is in a kind of dream world where only nice things are said. Very soothing, but go elsewhere for information.
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I'm wondering why I have a high tolerance of TMS commentary where cake and many other OT things are discussed, but the same isn't true with the TdF commentary.
Perhaps its because at least for part of the time they are describing what is going on.
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The thing with TMS is that it's basically a conversation about anything and everything, with a little cricket thrown in. Perhaps the cycling commentators could become more like TMS rather than trying to find something to talk about involving cycling/the local church in the village the ride passes through all the time.
It's the repetitiveness that starts to annoy me eventually. The gaffes (like Murray Walker's used to be in F1) are funny rather than annoying.
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Perhaps the cycling commentators could become more like TMS rather than trying to find something to talk about involving cycling/the local church in the village the ride passes through all the time.
Bring back Duffers! (Yes, I know he was on the other side).
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Posted by: P Walsh: Yesterday at 11:10:00 AM
The "not mentioning you know what" even applies to riders still competing. Contador is praised as being at or close to the top for the past decade, with no mention of the fact that he tested positive for something, or that he was part of Armstrong's team for a while. The commentary is in a kind of dream world where only nice things are said. Very soothing, but go elsewhere for information
If I remember correctly although Contador was in the same team as Armstrong it was like a civil war where Armstrong did all he could to isolate Contador and attacked him at every opportunity, any inference that he was "part of Armstrong's team" is rather unfair. Again relying on my memory I believe you know who were both strong defenders of Armstrong's innocence.
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I can understand not mentioning D*rty Dr*gs Che*ts during commentary. If a rider has been banned, then they've served their sentence. Its not relevant to the race we are watching right now.
(it would be wrong to actually lie about these matters - e.g. saying Contador won the Tour, but not mentioning that he was DQed!)
I'm not in favour of a rose-tinted coverage where no-one ever mentions the bad stuff - but you have a problem once you start discussing drugs. It can quickly take over the coverage. Listeners to the much-missed Scottish Podcast may recall that drugs were discussed almost every show - and when they were, it would be 10 minutes worth, not just a brief mention. They would waste hours dicussing rumour and speculation.
Ned Boulting wrote a good pice about this in June:
watch the races as races, accepting that everyone has their own advantages/disadvantages - the playing field is never level. Thats one of the subtleties that makes road racing so richly fascinating.
After the race? Let the rumours, sample analysis and prosecutions run their course!
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I kind of know where you are all coming from, but I find it hard to believe that Contador shared a bus with Armstrong and his team and was not a party to what was going on. And later he was disqualified for a doping offence. And I take the hard line on this. If you get caught you don't come back.
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Honorary mention for Jens just now:
Everyone has to thank Team Garmin for breaking the wind
;D
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Meanwhile, in a Breton primary skool:
Mlle. la Teech: So children, can you tell us who the most experienced rider in today's break is?
Petit Jeannot: Miss, miss, please miss, it's Sylvain Chavanel, miss!
Mlle. la Teech: Very good, Jeannot, but how did you know?
Petit Jeannot: Because ITV4's answer to Bluntman and Chronic told us three times in ten minutes, miss!
Mlle. la Teech: And how mnay times has M. Chavanel been Time-Trial Champion of France?
Petit Jeannot: Five! Six! Lots! He's definitely thirty-six though!
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Mlle. la Teech: Very nearly Jeannot. But he's not thirty-six. He's thirty-six years of age.
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You have to make allowances for petit Jeannot's own age ;D
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Does this primary school just happen to be in Brittany or is the teaching through the medium of Breton? If the latter then M le Maire's translation of Jeannot 'le Petit Breton' is perhaps correct.
'c'hwec'h ha tregont vloaz eo'
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Sure packing in the adverts today.
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Does this primary school just happen to be in Brittany or is the teaching through the medium of Breton? If the latter then M le Maire's translation of Jeannot 'le Petit Breton' is perhaps correct.
'c'hwec'h ha tregont vloaz eo'
I have no idea whatsoever...
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'c'hwec'h ha tregont vloaz eo'
Gesundheit.
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"Team BMC appear to be continuing their journey along the road".
O RLY? I was expecting them to take to the fields, or maybe to complete the course in a flotilla of 12-metre yachts.
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"Team BMC appear to be continuing their journey along the road".
O RLY? I was expecting them to take to the fields, or maybe to complete the course in a flotilla of 12-metre yachts.
Are you interested in the cycling or just picking fault with the commentary?
I having a wild guess here, but I assume there is a volume control facility on whatever you are using to watch the TdF.
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Did anyone else note that Paul Sherwen wasn't actually there at the commentary booth for yesterday's TTT or that's what I'm assuming because every time we saw a different team going through a time check point we got the PS quote about it all coming down to the last few km and word for word 'the last 2km' ??? :o ???
Maybe he'd stepped out for a few hours to get some shopping or something....
I must admit I do enjoy the descriptions of the local scenery more than the race commentary, sorry but I'm weird that way!?!
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"Team BMC appear to be continuing their journey along the road".
O RLY? I was expecting them to take to the fields, or maybe to complete the course in a flotilla of 12-metre yachts.
Are you interested in the cycling or just picking fault with the commentary?
I having a wild guess here, but I assume there is a volume control facility on whatever you are using to watch the TdF.
If you don't believe poking fun at the commentary deficiencies is a valid pursuit, why are you wasting your time reading and replying on a thread devoted to said activity? ;)
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Only just paid attention to this thread …
Favourite quote so far is (I think?) Paul with "testing positive for stupidity".
Most amusing name screwup is calling Rigoberto Uran "Roberto" - the guy goes by "Rigo" so it's not that difficult…
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I, for one, enjoy their commentary, including any gaffs. Who wouldn't make mistakes in a commentary lasting 4-5 or 6 hours long. I couldn't do it.
This
Thank heavens for a bit a little less sanctimony . :sick:
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Only just paid attention to this thread …
Favourite quote so far is (I think?) Paul with "testing positive for stupidity".
I'm pretty sure that was Gary Imlach. Paul doesn't generally do jokes, though his comment about les Anglophones on his first Tour drew a smile; something along the lines of "there were only three of us: me, Barry Hoban and Sean Kelly, and I'm not so sure about Sean".
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Its not so much Paul and Phil's gaffs or mistakes, they are funny. Its their mangling of the language and their inability to speak in anything other than cliches and, especially Paul - CAPITAL bloody LETTERS.
"PHIL, WHAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE HERE, IN THE SPORT OF PROFESSIONAL BIKE RACING, ......."
"WHEN TONY MARTIN GETS HIS BIG DIESEL V 8 ENGINE WHISTLING".
Yes, they are verbal props that people use but these two buggers have been doing the job for decades, you'd have hoped they would be able to refine it by now.
Just talk normally guys and don't make everything sound like one of Moses's ten commandments.
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Have we had suitcases or diesel engines yet this year? I noticed Sir Dave referred to "cobblestones" yesterday; David Millar nobly resisted that one.
Please can we have more David Millar, O wise production company?
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Watching on NBC Sports right now, it seems that the Phil & Paul show is their (NBC's) own production, not ITV4's. Phil & Paul often refer to NBC, discuss events with NBC commentators here in the USA, and deliver sponsors' messages. Maybe obvious to some, but news to me!
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I was just going to mention their US obligations.
I seem to have a memory from quite a few years ago of their commentary suddenly becoming substantially more contorted. Some said it was due to the fact that the extended coverage the Tour was then getting meant they were no longer able to provide distinct commentary for each country and their commentating style now had to incorporate all the requirements expected in the different markets at once.
I wonder if as time has gone by they have developed a style that streamlines their production process but that strikes some of our more delicate British ears as more and more bizarre.
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It would be interesting to compare what I just watched with what you got in UK, but it definitely looked to me that NBC's is the native coverage. Every graphic was sponsored, and covered by Phil or Paul. Two-way banter between P&P and the US studio, and NBC guys on the ground at the finish, all suggest that this was their production.
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It looks like ITV4's coverage is supplied by an outfit called Vsquared, but I imagine they just generate the Imlach/Boardman/Boulting/whoever material and editing together the highlights, with the race pictures coming from ASO and Messrs Liggett and Sherwen bolted on top. Does the US coverage include the snippets from Jens Voigt?
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Yes, it does.
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I have to say, Sean Kelly is much improved over a few years ago, when monosyllabic replies were his stock in trade .
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[Four Yorkshiremen]
Monosyllables? You had it lucky. I remember in his cycling days when he answered radio interview questions by nodding
[/four Yourkshiremen]
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Trufax, that ^^^^.
Now, Paul, where are we today? Are we by any chance near Spain? We are?
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It took until there were but 6-odd km to go, but the diesel engines have finally put in an appearance.
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Dan Martin, at least once called Dean Martin by Jens Voigt, apparently has engines plural, which is surely cheating.
"If $RIDER were a boxer, he'd be on the rings!" Surely if he were on the rings he'd be a gymnast ???
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It took until there were but 6-odd km to go, but the diesel engines have finally put in an appearance.
I can hear the turbos whistling from here.
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I'm wondering why I have a high tolerance of TMS commentary where cake and many other OT things are discussed, but the same isn't true with the TdF commentary.
Perhaps its because at least for part of the time they are describing what is going on.
A TMS/TdF crossover would be wonderful. I'd love to hear Blowers let loose on the French race.
I think TMS are lucky in that there are times when nothing is happening, which gives them freedom to talk about the cakes (and buses going past, and cheeses, during the last Test) that people have sent. Whereas, technically, the cycle race is always on. Maybe we should start sending Phil and Paul cakes and cheese to break up the repetition. Yes, I know the Seine goes through Paris, and if I didn't, you've already told me three times.
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one word:
DUFFIELD
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one word:
DUFFIELD
<Kurtz> The horror... the horror... </Kurtz>
Now say three Hail Kellys and twelve Ave Porters, and I might just let you off. :P
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It's good to know that Little Tommy Voeckler has got a post-cycling career as either a hospital porter or an aerodynamicist all sewn up. After all, Phil told us last night how proficient he is at pulling his 'gurneys'. :D
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Is Little Tommy Voeckler the Plucky Jacky Durand de nos jours?
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Is Little Tommy Voeckler the Plucky Jacky Durand de nos jours?
I rather think he is, though he's been a bit subdued so far this year.
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Watching on NBC Sports right now, it seems that the Phil & Paul show is their (NBC's) own production, not ITV4's. Phil & Paul often refer to NBC, discuss events with NBC commentators here in the USA, and deliver sponsors' messages. Maybe obvious to some, but news to me!
On the ITV4 coverage Phil has just1 asked "Steve" who he's been talking to now, which suggests that:
- Someone at Vsquared was a bit tardy in cutting to the blipverts, or
- Phil's been enjoying his lunch a bit more than might be deemed proper
1: FSVO "just" - I'm about an hour behind real time ATM.
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'Steve' is NBC's roving reporter who gets around the teams, generally at the finish line.
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Interesting with the weather today which seems to have had the Terrible Twosome imploring us to look at the way the leaders are descending while we were treated to pictures of Pyrenees from the helichopter, with nary a bike in sight.
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At one point a lighting strike at the finish took out the commentary comms silencing C & S. Whoever took over from the studio was MUCH better.
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You guys are spotting a lot of buzzwords that I aint. youre not ... watxhing LIVE, are you?!
Anyhoo ... just heard my first "job of work" this year. Does anyone else on the planet use this phrase?!?
(And now I notice every single "... years of age". Thanks a million jo ::-) )
On a related note, I'm enjoying all the Sagan interviews.Hes not bright, but you have to like the kid!
I'm also growing fond of Nibbles- he seems very genuine. I dont normally warm to the non-anglophones (my fault entirely, Im sure)
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So after a laborious explanation of why the helichopters are unable to come in close, we promptly get some nice close shots from a helichopter. Followed by a longer shot from a helichopter showing another helichopter some way below the first.
Terrific scenery though :thumbsup:
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I notice the helicopters were all told to Land Right Fucking Now yesterday, during the worst of the storms.
I guess Big Hail is a bad thing for Helis too.
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Paul Sherwen's sentences do not end with a full stop, they end with 'on a day like this'.
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Have you learned a new word today, Paul?
Why, yes! Yes, I have! Today's word is "firepower". F-I-R-E-P-O-W-E-R. Firepower.
Also Phil keeps calling the Garmin rider in the break "Christian Koran", which is so bad it's good.
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It's great that Cummings won today.
I bet that he's got a real turbo diesel albeit not a V8 twin turbo ..........
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Most of their heavy-duty diesels appear to be straight sixes. However:
Cummins and Nissan recently announced the availability of the Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel engine in the next generation Nissan Titan. More details about the engine and its availability will be announced in the future. Stay tuned for more exciting news.
So he might have one which has recently crept out of the back door of the factory.
In a suitcase.
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Most of their heavy-duty diesels appear to be straight sixes. However:
Cummins and Nissan recently announced the availability of the Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel engine in the next generation Nissan Titan. More details about the engine and its availability will be announced in the future. Stay tuned for more exciting news.
So he might have one which has recently crept out of the back door of the factory.
In a suitcase.
One piece at a time.
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Have you learned a new word today, Paul?
Why, yes! Yes, I have! Today's word is "firepower". F-I-R-E-P-O-W-E-R. Firepower.
Also Phil keeps calling the Garmin rider in the break "Christian Koran", which is so bad it's good.
Also from Paul yesterday, as Sky were keeping the break in check: "Sky orchestrating manoeuvres there at the front'. I quite liked that.
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Keeping the other teams in the dark?
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Since at stumps today Greipel has won three stages to Cavendish's one I put it to you, Phil, that the race's best sprinter was very much involved in today's stage.
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How many times do we need to hear Pauls' opinion that Greipel is in the form of his life?
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Paul's Interesting Historical Snippet #4672 concerns a lake. I'm sure it's a very nice lake, but the TV pictures we were seeing were of the breakaway riding past a rather ordinary field.
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If, as Phil suggests, Peter Sagan is a former ex-mountain biker then what, pray, is he doing in a road race ??? Those two are getting as bad about Sagan as the ITV F1 colemantators were about Lewis Hamilton and, before him, Juan Pablo Montoya.
And Paul, tumbling gracelessly into the ditch does not qualify as "a mechanical".
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I listen to P&P with added interest these days, thinking, "ooh, that one's going to wind up Mr Larrington no end".
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I listen to P&P with added interest these days, thinking, "ooh, that one's going to wind up Mr Larrington no end".
Can we come up with some sort of P&P bingo? Or betting when the first diesel engine of the day makes an appearance?
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I listen to P&P with added interest these days, thinking, "ooh, that one's going to wind up Mr Larrington no end".
GIT!
;D
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I listen to P&P with added interest these days, thinking, "ooh, that one's going to wind up Mr Larrington no end".
Can we come up with some sort of P&P bingo? Or betting when the first diesel engine of the day makes an appearance?
It seems that Geraint Thomas is playing already:
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/33603208)
Tejay van Garderen is third, 20 seconds off Quintana. He is not as explosive as the others on the climbs, he's a bit more like me - a diesel - so we won't have to chase him down if he attacks.
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That Geraint Thomas is a Bad Man and his railway makes Abellio Greater Anglia look as efficient as the Shinkansen ;D
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"I tell you what Phil, with his big diesel, that's not the only thing he was pumping. Did you see that podium girl staggering along early this morning … couldn't stop a pig in a passage …"
"Eh?" replies Phil.
Maybe I was dreaming this particular interchange.
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I'm fairly sure the feeding zone is not the wossname de ryvitament; I'd think they'd want something a bit more substantial than crispbread on a mountain stage.
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"He is isolated by the other guys with him."
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Geschke is fast becoming a contender in the mispronounced name competition, with Phil having just called him "Simon Gesture"
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Catching up on yesterday and today's highlights show at the moment, so I think this is an Imlach line rather than a P&P line, but it made me giggle: “Geraint Thomas is still sixth despite the intervention of Warren Barguil and a telegraph pole.”
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Let us celebrate the end of term by digging deep into our suitcase of clichés, shall we boys?
Firepower blah blah blah cobblestones blah diesel engines blah Sean Kelly blah blah leadout train blah firepower (again) blah Norwegian corner blah Greipel blah blah blah
(Touches wheels with unknown Lotto-Jumbo domestique, is catapulted head-first into the Seine)
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Driving into the eye of a cauldron
WTF ?
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Well usually I'm not too bothered by the inanities of the Paul & Phil show, but I think Paul Sherwen must have accidentally swallowed some speed this year. Dear God would he NEVER shut up? He actually managed to detract from the racing for me this year.
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Well usually I'm not too bothered by the inanities of the Paul & Phil show, but I think Paul Sherwen must have accidentally swallowed some speed this year. Dear God would he NEVER shut up? He actually managed to detract from the racing for me this year.
This. Oh so much.
Hence my whinge in the race thread on Friday: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=91732.msg1895031#msg1895031
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I did lose count of the: "I tell you what Phil"'s that he came out with, or the: "And another thing Phil."
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'I wonder what they are saying to each other?'. Well if you shut up we might be able to hear them and find out.
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I know some of what Cav was saying to Froomey and ITV neither bleeped it or apologized ;D
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I do wonder who that Jo Nark character was whose statue Phil kept mentioning.
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It's spreading! I heard Lord Someone-or-Other on the radio yesterday praising the incredible 'job of work' that the House of Lords does (when they're not snorting illicit substances from hookers' breasts).
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Paul's made it into Colemanballs: " It [the Somme] is a big milk-growing region." Private Eye has recorded the contributor for that as "Paul Sherwen". I somehow doubt that.