Author Topic: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014  (Read 20012 times)

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #75 on: 14 August, 2014, 08:39:03 pm »
I think the guy who arrived at our control 3 minutes before it closed DNFed as he was faffing around talking on the phone for about half an hour after he had prepared to leave. He was Japanese or Chinese (not sure which), I didn't get his name.

Japanese, speaking excellent German after 35 years in the country. His card arrived in Roesrath some time before him. He had left it behind in the Kreuztal petrol-station when he collected the stamp and riders behind him picked it up and got ahead of him when he overslept.
He completed the hilly stage to Petersborn, the next control, but several hours after it officially closed:
http://www.audaxclub-sh.de/node/573

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #76 on: 14 August, 2014, 08:49:09 pm »
Japanese, speaking excellent German after 35 years in the country.

Rider 139.

I gave him a lift from Brompton to Wolverhampton after he packed on LEL.  I took pity on him and decided it was easier to 'sort' him out and put him on a train to London rather than leave him to sort himself out as his English was not good.  His bike travelled in a van back to the start.

Bugloss

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #77 on: 15 August, 2014, 06:17:18 am »
The Japanese guy got round, but came in out of time at something like 18:00.

On my way to the train to Denmark after camping at the finish. The HBKH team were in good spirits and looked more worn out than the riders. I managed to get to the bottom of the ACP thingy and it's a real shame for their club to be excluded, as they are lovely people. It's a ride worth doing never the less and deserves to be a classic.


I have to ride my push iron standing up today, as I'm a bit tender in the arse region. Thank the Lord for the U Bahn.

Auntie Helen

  • 6 Wheels in Germany
Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #78 on: 15 August, 2014, 06:37:16 am »
...or thank The Lord for recumbents? ;-)
My blog on cycling in Germany and eating German cake – http://www.auntiehelen.co.uk


Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #79 on: 15 August, 2014, 08:23:24 am »
The Japanese guy got round, but came in out of time at something like 18:00.

On my way to the train to Denmark after camping at the finish. The HBKH team were in good spirits and looked more worn out than the riders.

Burkard's sixth day photos including late arrivals, Salvatore and relaxed riders and helpers:
https://plus.google.com/photos/113565840684522726999/albums/6047436686134007649


Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #80 on: 15 August, 2014, 09:51:52 am »
what a ride, a must do ride that i enjoyed from start to finish. thanks to lordy and cyclofabrica for the company and bugloss at times we made a good team. i planned to ride this as 5x300km days with a bed everynight and thats what  i did :) even found time to join the y.h.a. of germany on the way round. thanks to the team that ran this event.

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #81 on: 15 August, 2014, 11:05:10 pm »
well done Postie.  enjoy your Dorset Coast perm as well!

 :thumbsup:

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #82 on: 16 August, 2014, 09:30:47 am »
Firstly a huge thanks to the helpers and organisers for putting on a wonderful event.  The route was fantastic and much harder than I imagined.  It was great to see so many different aspects of Germany.
Cheers to CF, Postie and Bugloss for carrying around my sorry arse for so much of the ride.
Always lovely to see John, hope you got your strawberries on the way home.
Highly recommend this route to anyone and as Postie says, it works well as 5x300kms so not mentally exhausting as are some other longer rides.
Lovely to meet many new faces, Auntie Helen, Fixlilated and a range of great non-UK riders.
Stopped over at Eindhoven and Ghent on the drive home for a few celebratory beers with CF, arriving back in Brizzle at 00.30am.
Now what next........

Bugloss

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #83 on: 16 August, 2014, 11:07:10 am »
Looks like you won't be getting your AUK points after all chaps.

http://www.audax.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=216.0

Bairdy

  • Former Pints Champion
Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #84 on: 16 August, 2014, 06:45:00 pm »
Looks like you won't be getting your AUK points after all chaps.

http://www.audax.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=216.0

The politics of long distance cycling eh!  :facepalm:
Well done to all that completed it.
"And I been up to my neck in pleasure
              Up to my neck in pain"

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #85 on: 18 August, 2014, 03:46:48 pm »
Postie.  you have summed it up so well. ....wot a mess up! !!!
 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #86 on: 18 August, 2014, 09:10:43 pm »
there twas once the saying
" You turn if you like the lady's not for turning"
i am pleased that the committee are going through the process to enable one.
drinks all round will follow at dinner after AGM I suspect! !

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #87 on: 19 August, 2014, 12:29:47 pm »
Well despite returning to the UK to find myself involved in an AUK courtroom drama  :o  this was an excellent event  :thumbsup:

Massive thanks to all the HBK team for their hard work in running the event. The route was great and the mix of flat lands and mountains really broke the ride up into interesting sections. Food at all controls was excellent and I really felt like I ate good healthy stuff throughout, even the garages had really good food and fresh rolls with interesting fillings were always on hand. Quiet roads with amazing surfaces and for Bus Shelter fans this part of Germany is a must!  Never have I seen so many amazing shelters! From your standard bus type but always with seats, to massive round shelters that could seat 20+ We were very lucky with the weather and often just as a massive downpour would start a shelter would appear round the next bend! Only used the rain jacket twice in the end as waiting out the quickly passing storms under cover was always an option.

Postie's plan of riding this as 5 x 300km worked very well, the hilly sections put the pressure on the daily targets but we made up for shorter days when we got back on the flat. Was great riding with Lordy, Bugloss, Postie, and hanging out with John Spooner at the controls (he is treated as a legend for riding every one so far!)

Also great to meet Auntie Helen and Fixillated who gave us a great welcome at their control and some English Tea  :thumbsup:

Would highly recommend this to anyone thinking of riding it, well done HBK team! and hopefully the politics can be a thing of the past by 2018!

A few photos from our adventure at :

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.775175139190786.1073741835.636173906424244&type=1

Hummers

  • It is all about the taste.
Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #88 on: 19 August, 2014, 01:16:48 pm »
...and Postie is talking about a joint meet up in February with you chaps - somewhere around Salisbury?

H

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #89 on: 19 August, 2014, 06:49:39 pm »

Genosse Brymbo

  • Ostalgist
Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #90 on: 19 August, 2014, 08:27:00 pm »
Well done on what appears to have been a great ride.  Hope Salvatore is ok and his ticker is fine.

I am bitterly disappointed to have DNSed this event - RL intervened in the form of wife and son's health issues, instead of the feared mother and mother-in-law's.  However, I did all the preparation as if I were going to participate.  This exercise and the reports up-thread give rise to a few questions.

Did YACFers use the routesheet and/or GPS track?  The 57 A6 sheets mean a lot of page turning, but I think it was better than the variable-length pages of the 2010 routesheet.  How was this in practice?

What was the route like - there was a lot of discusion about hilliness in the 2010 thread - could it be completed on a compact double with a 34x27 low gear?  What was the actual elevation gain - there have been figures between 9000 and 1200m bandied about.

The positions of the controls didn't appear to offer convenient points for sleeping, in particular the first sleep stop at 465k.  (My only experience of >600km rides is LEL2013 and that took care of all the audax aspects - you just had to turn up and ride.  HBK appears much more hard-core.)  Did postie really do HBK as 5x300km and sleep in real beds, or was it audax hotels?  How did others split their sleeping/riding?
The present is a foreign country: they do things differently here.

Bugloss

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #91 on: 19 August, 2014, 09:05:22 pm »
My Garmin worked it out at 13082m but the HBKH road book says 12500m of climbing.

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #92 on: 19 August, 2014, 10:55:32 pm »
If I may answer brymbo,
1) I got round on a bottom gear of 34x25
2)every night I had a real bed and was in it for at least 6 and a half hours. 2 hotels 1 guest house and 1 youth hostel.
3)the sleep controls were in the wrong place for me.
4) the route sheet work well 99% of the time.
5) as for hills the middle bit was brutal.

Bugloss

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #93 on: 20 August, 2014, 10:12:23 am »
Phew! the High point and low point of my first season all in one weekend. ::-)

Anyway, here's my account of what happened in Germany.

I rode with Postie, Cyclofabrica and Lordy for the majority of the first two days.

The first day was as flat as you like and we got a good rhythm going and managed to avoid the showers by ducking into conveniently placed bus shelters and played yoyo with Team Italia in their Ferrari jerseys and plastic bags.

Day two took us into the first manned control at 450km where we met Salvatorie and the man from Canada. We stopped for an extended breakfast/lunch and sat out a huge downpour, from there on we started to ride over sections of cobbles the size of babies heads and a few rail crossings that seemed always to be laid at jaunty angles to the road, which made for some interesting riding. At about 650km the hotel boys wanted to stop as it was pissing down and the hills were about to show, so I rode on as I wanted to stay at the 750km control.

This is where it started to get a bit hilly and a bit weird, I rode onwards into the night and got a good soaking for my troubles, but I was glad I carried on, as when it got dark I could make out the outline of the surrounding hills with hundreds of blinking lights from the wind turbines hovering in the air above them. A brilliant sight and well worth the drenching I'd had earlier.

Salvatorie had warned me about the desert that we were about to enter between controls and he was right. My water had run out and I wasted a load of time trying to find a tap for a refill........there was nothing......... for miles. No bars, no services and no garden taps....dry.

Eventually I spotted a hosepipe hanging on the wall of a house. I tiptoed quietly into the garden as best I could in cycling shoes on a gravel path, but I couldn't get it off the tap, so I filled up with rubber hose water. I took a big swig and nearly puked as it tasted strongly of vulcanised rubber, but that was all I had and I put my only desperado SIS gel in the bottle to try and mask the taste.

I Plugged on into the wet and increasingly windy night whilst sipping gingerly on orange flavoured rubber hose water, I had thoughts of all kinds of gastric trouble that I was bringing upon myself for the next day. When LO! over yonder appeared a bar, still open. I pulled up in the car park alongside a pair of young lovers, who seemed to be trying to swallow each other whilst locked in an amorous embrace, dismounted and burst into the bar with both water bottles drawn.

Inside a party was in full swing, the dancing stopped and everyone turned and stared. I made it to the bar and offered up my plastic bottles to the barmaid for a refill. Someone grabbed my shoulder and I turned and stared at a man who was tapping at his watch and shouting at me over the loud music, well of course speaking no German I simply smiled the best I could and shrugged. “Eeeengliiish” I said and he looked at me and rolled his eyes, turned to the rest of the party goers and shouted he's speaking "Eeeengliiish". A couple came up to me and kindly reminded me that "it's a bit late to be riding your bike, you know", "can we take your photo" and "do you want to dance ?" I must admit I felt like a Larry Let Down when I explained that "Er well no, I didn't really feel like dancing, but thanks for the offer" and that all I wanted was a drink and to get back on my bike and ride into the night.

Turning back to the bar I collected my now bulging bottles and was asked for €4.50 by the barmaid, that's a bit odd so I paid anyway, said my farewells to the party and left.

"Water".... fantastic, so I took another big swig and it all exploded back out, she'd filled up with fizzy water, but at least it didn't taste of Goodyear radials.

Off I went into the dark. I was intending to get to the control at about 2am, but ended up getting lost and missed the turning. Whilst lost and going in a big circle a car pulled up along side and I waved them on without looking, as I was on a mission, suddenly the night lit up with this amazingly beautiful blue light, it was the police and they wanted to chat. It must have come as a surprise to see a lone cyclist riding down the middle of the road in the dark, swearing to himself. So I stopped and they got out.

“Eeeengliish” I said for the second time in one evening and the police officer looked at me in disbelief, so I gave her the option of “Dansk” too.

So Eeeengliish it was to be and she kindly pointed out that; a.“It's a bit late to be riding your bike, you know" and b. That I really should be riding on the bike path and not in the middle of the road. and c. Where exactly was I going at this time of night ?

I had to stand there in the dark, getting cold and explain like a naughty boy what I was doing, why I was doing it and where exactly I was hoping to be, very soon.

So I ended up with a police escort for a while, what an eventful night this was turning out to be,and she kindly put me on the right track and I rode off into the night with a cheery wave and a Germainc “Bon Chance”.

I finally reached the control at 3:30 am fell into the shooting club and promptly got shooed back out of the door and told off for bringing my bike in.

That was it!!

The FACE ON! switch had been thrown and I was officially having a “special moment”.

Day 3 & 4 went in a blur of bus shelters and hills, hills, cake, cake, hills and were completed in an easy touring stye, with numerous refreshment breaks and an overnight in the control at Rösrath. With a wheel true from Frank and cake with hospitality from Helen and Fixillated, I relaxed knowing I was on the home straight. I won’t go into the thoughts of murder that were whirring around in my head during the night, but lets say I wished I’d bothered to pitch my tent as I wasn't getting any sleep.

I got back to the control at Petersborn at about 5pm, slaked my thirst with 4 beers, sat in the sun, ate alot, did the laundry and generally loafed. Postie and CF turned up later and went off to do a few more miles. Then Lordy turned up, changed and got on his bike. I looked at the sky and mentioned that “It looks like it might be going to rain“ He looked at me oddly and muttered something about wanting to get down the road coz he was knackered after the hills, so off he went and down it came.

Day 5.

Rested I left the control at about 5:30-5:45 am

I met team Italia at the intermediate control, they appeared to be shadows of their former selves and didn’t seem to be talking to each other, one can only imagine what horrors they must have experienced to make them look this way, so I left them with a cheery “Ciao” and rode off into the sunny day with my ice cream and a giggle.

I caught up with Postie and CF at lunchtime in the control at Lindern after doing a head down 200, wolfed down 2 plates of sausage stew, quaffed a large shandy and rode with them and my friend indigestion the last 200 km’s over the Elbe at sunset to the finish at Großhansdorf.

I used the king of route sheets in a map holder and had the whole route on one track on the Garmin and still managed to get lost. I rode it on my 1986 steel bike with camping gear on a 53/39 X 27 8 speed, had a lot of fun and I shall return for more.

You'll have to jog off to the other place if you want the juicy bits.

iddu

  • Are we there yet?
Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #94 on: 20 August, 2014, 10:40:11 am »
I sense a recurring theme for this event of "moist" - bound to be better next time ;)
I'd offer you some moral support - but I have questionable morals.

hellymedic

  • Just do it!
Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #95 on: 20 August, 2014, 01:23:02 pm »
I sense a recurring theme for thiskind of event of "moist" - bound to be better next time ;)

ftfy

LEL, PBP & HBKH all seem to have had rides of epic wetness.
Sometimes

Auntie Helen

  • 6 Wheels in Germany
Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #96 on: 24 August, 2014, 09:16:53 pm »
Here's my write-up of volunteering at HBK

http://www.auntiehelen.co.uk/helping-at-hbk-audax-control/
My blog on cycling in Germany and eating German cake – http://www.auntiehelen.co.uk


Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #97 on: 02 September, 2014, 06:29:13 pm »
Cor blimy.  Just caught up on the issues and debarcle surrounding points to be awarded for this event. 

I see that (fully paid up) members opinions are not allowed to be expressed on the official forum as the thread has been locked in typical internet-forum style. LOLs etc.... :-\

At least you guys had a fully audacious time out there and what an achievement - 1500 kms  :thumbsup:
Does not play well with others

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #98 on: 02 September, 2014, 07:02:06 pm »
ample time to post opinions in my opinion! !
all MEMBERS will have paid their subscription otherwise they wouldn't be members! !
 :)

Re: Hamburg-Berlin-Koln-Hamburg 2014
« Reply #99 on: 02 September, 2014, 07:46:48 pm »
ample time to post opinions in my opinion! !
all MEMBERS will have paid their subscription otherwise they wouldn't be members! !
 :)

Is this true?  I thought once you reach a certain age, and providing you have been a member for a certain period of time, is it free as you become a Life Member?  I believe if you want Arrivee you pay for it (currently £9 per year which is jolly good value IMO).

So some members can have their say without paying a penny!