Author Topic: Chicken - best before.... (Read 2063 times)

Jurek · « **on:** 26 July, 2016, 06:31:26 pm »

..... the 23rd

It's been sitting in controlled conditions (the fridge}, marinaded in olive oil, garlic, turmeric, onions and shrooms.
OK to oven and eat?
Or will I die horribly?

Jaded · « **Reply #1 on:** 26 July, 2016, 07:09:35 pm »

hellymedic · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 July, 2016, 07:14:51 pm »

When and where did you buy it?
How was it wrapped? (Supermarket chickens are packed in nitrogen to reduce bug replication)
When did you unwrap it?

You ARE pushing things but if it doesn't smell off and gets ovened to fall-apart DETH, you'll probably be OK.

Jurek · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 July, 2016, 07:21:24 pm »

Quote from: hellymedic on 26 July, 2016, 07:14:51 pm

When and where did you buy it?
How was it wrapped? (Supermarket chickens are packed in nitrogen to reduce bug replication)
When did you unwrap it?

You ARE pushing things but if it doesn't smell off and gets ovened to fall-apart DETH, you'll probably be OK.

Thanks Helly.
Bought Sunday 17th - not this one just gone, the one before.
Sainsburys breast fillets, organic.
Styrene tray with cling cover.
Unwrapped and marinaded on the 17th, re-clinged inna ceramic dish and fridged pretty much straight away.

Gonna take a bath and see whether tonight's menu changes in the time I do so.

hellymedic · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 July, 2016, 07:39:28 pm »

Unwrapped 9 days IS risky.
I am no expert on marinades; they might retard deterioration of things but...
... not sure I'd risk it...

....partner chides me for keeping too much stuff frozen.
I aim to cook all unfrozen raw meat in 48 hours.

Jurek · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 July, 2016, 07:58:33 pm »

Quote from: hellymedic on 26 July, 2016, 07:39:28 pm

Unwrapped 9 days IS risky.
I am no expert on marinades; they might retard deterioration of things but...
... not sure I'd risk it...

....partner chides me for keeping too much stuff frozen.
I aim to cook all unfrozen raw meat in 48 hours.

Decisions made. Thanks Helly.
Week old chicken > binward, much as I hate wasting food.
I've had gastroenteritis and campylobacter.
No desire whatsoever to go to either of those two places, or anywhere remotely similar, again.
Tonight it'll be de-frosted chilli con carne con pasta.
Note to self *Improvements in prepared meals are required*

Jakob W · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 July, 2016, 07:59:36 pm »

I wouldn't. I'd probably cook chicken that was 3 days out of date if the packet was unopened - UB dates are conservative - but opened and marinated I'd not want to risk it.

Jurek · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 July, 2016, 08:03:08 pm »

Quote from: Jakob W on 26 July, 2016, 07:59:36 pm

I wouldn't. I'd probably cook chicken that was 3 days out of date if the packet was unopened - UB dates are conservative - but opened and marinated I'd not want to risk it.

Thanks Jakob W

rafletcher · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 July, 2016, 08:08:36 pm »

Well does it smell off?? If it doesn't, cook it and eat it and enjoy. How do you think people coped before being bullied by legislative sell by and use by dates.

hellymedic · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 July, 2016, 08:13:54 pm »

Quote from: rafletcher on 26 July, 2016, 08:08:36 pm

Well does it smell off?? If it doesn't, cook it and eat it and enjoy. How do you think people coped before being bullied by legislative sell by and use by dates.

I don't think they kept raw poultry for over a week.
Ever.

People used to buy fresh food daily and cook for the weekend.

Jurek · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 July, 2016, 08:32:50 pm »

Quote from: rafletcher on 26 July, 2016, 08:08:36 pm

Well does it smell off?? If it doesn't, cook it and eat it and enjoy. How do you think people coped before being bullied by legislative sell by and use by dates.

I didn't sniff it but the bin deed is done.
As mentioned earlier, I've had a couple of bouts of gastro sickness - and no desire whatsoever to go there again.
Time was, as I understand it, that food wasn't being produced at the rate at which we're producing it today - with all the inherent issues of transport / shelf life / longevity.
My mother keeps referring to this - as in - what was wrong with what we were doing 40 years ago?
I try to explain to her that food production / delivery to the retailer, has changed enormously in the last 30 / 40 years.

Eccentrica Gallumbits · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 July, 2016, 08:58:29 pm »

Quote from: rafletcher on 26 July, 2016, 08:08:36 pm

Well does it smell off?? If it doesn't, cook it and eat it and enjoy. How do you think people coped before being bullied by legislative sell by and use by dates.

Hard to tell if it smells off when it's marinaded.

hellymedic · « **Reply #12 on:** 26 July, 2016, 09:00:44 pm »

There was little wrong with the way we handled food 40 years ago.
We bought smaller quantities of food, more frequently, from smaller shops, that were closer to home.
ISTR the average housewife shopped for an hour every day.
On foot.

Many women were housewives then...

People still suffered from food-poisoning and food-borne infections.
Which Were Not Nice.

Jurek · « **Reply #13 on:** 26 July, 2016, 09:15:19 pm »

Quote from: hellymedic on 26 July, 2016, 09:00:44 pm

There was little wrong with the way we handled food 40 years ago.
We bought smaller quantities of food, more frequently, from smaller shops, that were closer to home.
ISTR the average housewife shopped for an hour every day.
On foot.

Many women were housewives then...

People still suffered from food-poisoning and food-borne infections.
Which Were Not Nice.

I hear you, Helly.

orienteer · « **Reply #14 on:** 26 July, 2016, 09:17:22 pm »

With food relatively very cheap nowadays, it's not worth the risk of making yourself ill.

We try not to waste food and don't automatically throw stuff away past the BB date, but are very careful with raw meat.

ian · « **Reply #15 on:** 26 July, 2016, 09:37:23 pm »

Raw meat is about the only thing I won't eat out-of-date. Otherwise, I recklessly disregard such matters. OMG, the cheese is out of date!

OK, my petard was hoisted a while back when I tackled some two month out-of-date sour cream. It's supposed to be off, I declared, before shovelling a tablespoonful into my mouth.

Not that off.

hellymedic · « **Reply #16 on:** 26 July, 2016, 11:14:51 pm »

The off is off....
(Hebrew for chicken is pronounced 'off'...)

Jaded · « **Reply #17 on:** 26 July, 2016, 11:38:33 pm »

Depending on the source of the raw meat it could be be few years old, having been in a freezer since death.

jsabine · « **Reply #18 on:** 27 July, 2016, 12:45:03 am »

I'd most likely have eaten it, but I have both a reckless disregard for UB and BB dates, and a strong stomach. If it's not gone green and doesn't smell funny, I'll cook it; if it doesn't taste funny, I'll eat it.

I've not yet had food poisoning from my own cooking, only from professional kitchens.

T42 · « **Reply #19 on:** 27 July, 2016, 07:17:35 am »

Supermarket steak¹ [here] has usually been aged 21 days before display and has a BB date of around 24-25 days. I usually let it age another week: if it's not an open-grain cut then bacterial growth will be superficial and it'll be fine inside; searing takes care of the outside and the meat will be all the better. Expensive restaurants will even age it for 42 days; I've eaten it at 35 but never that long.

I'd do the same with 4-footed game but not for any other meat, and certainly not poultry. Well, maybe breast of duck, which can be fairly dense. Medicinal brandy¹ recommended.

1. none of which I'm allowed these days.

Game is OK, though.

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