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Rig of Jarkness

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #550 on: 22 July, 2011, 10:21:10 pm »
Quote from: kcass on 22 July, 2011, 10:10:40 pm
Nice story here about Bernard Eisel and David Millar helping one another on today's stage

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-eisel-talks-time-limits-at-lalpe-dhuez

Like  :thumbsup:
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Karla

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #551 on: 22 July, 2011, 10:22:45 pm »
So, what are the odds that the margin will be within 8 seconds?
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Rig of Jarkness

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #552 on: 22 July, 2011, 10:24:26 pm »
Quote from: Mr Bunbury on 22 July, 2011, 10:22:45 pm
So, what are the odds that the margin will be within 8 seconds?

As they'll all be using tri bars this time, it will be closer than that.
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Honest John

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #553 on: 22 July, 2011, 10:25:02 pm »
Quote from: kcass on 22 July, 2011, 10:10:40 pm
Nice story here about Bernard Eisel and David Millar helping one another on today's stage

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-eisel-talks-time-limits-at-lalpe-dhuez

That's nice.
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Doosh

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #554 on: 22 July, 2011, 10:45:18 pm »
Damn it, nobody to cheer for now Voeckler is out of contention. Can't be doing with that odious Aussie gobshite, and Stiff Neck and his brother are about as exciting as recycled cardboard.

I suppose I can just wait till Sunday and cheer on Cav.
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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #555 on: 22 July, 2011, 11:32:43 pm »
Ach come on... Andy Schleck has set the Tour on fire these past two days. IMO Evans doesn't deserve the win, if he gets it (which I dont think he will)
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Jakob

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #556 on: 22 July, 2011, 11:43:00 pm »
Dunno..kinda lost it for the Schlecks with their pathetic whining about the descents....but I'd rather have them than Evans.
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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #557 on: 22 July, 2011, 11:48:00 pm »
Evans just never shows any elan. Determination, yes, but flair? Nope.
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citoyen

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #558 on: 22 July, 2011, 11:54:39 pm »
Quote from: Martin on 22 July, 2011, 08:51:30 pm
assuming no sprints tomorrow how many points are up for grabs on Sunday?

Points for the first 15 at the finish: 45-35-30-26-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2

And for the intermediate sprint: 20-17-15-13-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

I really can't see anyone beating Cav on the Champs Elysées. He's going to make it a hat-trick. It's about as nailed on as Gilbert was for stage one.

Oh, and by the way: there are points on offer tomorrow for the top 15 - same as the points for an intermediate sprint on a normal stage - but no chance of Cav or Rojas troubling the scorers.

d.
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Bledlow

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #559 on: 23 July, 2011, 12:08:55 am »
Quote from: Jakob on 22 July, 2011, 11:43:00 pm
Dunno..kinda lost it for the Schlecks with their pathetic whining about the descents....but I'd rather have them than Evans.
+1 for Andy, but did Frank whine, too?
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Pingu

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #560 on: 23 July, 2011, 12:23:03 am »
Quote from: Bledlow on 23 July, 2011, 12:08:55 am
Quote from: Jakob on 22 July, 2011, 11:43:00 pm
Dunno..kinda lost it for the Schlecks with their pathetic whining about the descents....but I'd rather have them than Evans.
+1 for Andy, but did Frank whine, too?

Yes
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Rig of Jarkness

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #561 on: 23 July, 2011, 06:47:54 am »
Quote from: Mr Larrington on 22 July, 2011, 01:01:44 pm
Have any of today's papers used the headline "Six Mauled In Leopard Attack"?

If not, they should have.

I'm disappointed that a Leopard rider never took the lead in the KoM competition - I was looking forward to the headlines about them never changing their spots  :)
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Honest John

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #562 on: 23 July, 2011, 10:12:39 am »
Quote from: Bledlow on 23 July, 2011, 12:08:55 am
Quote from: Jakob on 22 July, 2011, 11:43:00 pm
Dunno..kinda lost it for the Schlecks with their pathetic whining about the descents....but I'd rather have them than Evans.
+1 for Andy, but did Frank whine, too?

Yes.

Evans isn't that boring, he just doesn't have a kick - like Ullrich.
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Andrew Br

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #563 on: 23 July, 2011, 10:23:03 am »
Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 22 July, 2011, 11:32:43 pm
Ach come on... Andy Schleck has set the Tour on fire these past two days. IMO Evans doesn't deserve the win, if he gets it (which I dont think he will)

Yes, that sum it up for me.
I had him down as  whinging git who knew he was going to lose and then he went off on that break.
Respect to Evans but I want Andy to win.

Although it's nice outside,  I'm not going out on the bike today  ;)

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GruB

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #564 on: 23 July, 2011, 10:35:16 am »
Son2 wants to be taken into Swindon to buy a skateboard.  I've said he had better speak to his mother as I am watching the TT today.
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GruB

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #565 on: 23 July, 2011, 10:36:00 am »
Quote from: Honest John on 23 July, 2011, 10:12:39 am
Quote from: Bledlow on 23 July, 2011, 12:08:55 am
Quote from: Jakob on 22 July, 2011, 11:43:00 pm
Dunno..kinda lost it for the Schlecks with their pathetic whining about the descents....but I'd rather have them than Evans.
+1 for Andy, but did Frank whine, too?

Yes.

Evans isn't that boring, he just doesn't have a kick - like Ullrich.

WE all know where Ullrich got his kick from - unlike Evans. 
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Gus

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #566 on: 23 July, 2011, 10:36:12 am »
Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 22 July, 2011, 11:32:43 pm
Ach come on... Andy Schleck has set the Tour on fire these past two days. IMO Evans doesn't deserve the win, if he gets it (which I dont think he will)

That's correct, but Leopard Trek should have closed the race long ago, they are without doubt the best team,
but haven't used it to their advantage.
If Cadel wins it's because he is the strongest and smartest rider this year.

Either way it's been one of the more memorable races and the best rider will win.
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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #567 on: 23 July, 2011, 10:52:40 am »
Quote from: Grub on 23 July, 2011, 10:36:00 am
WE all know where Ullrich got his kick from - unlike Evans.

I think he is comparing Evans to Ullrich...neither of them had a kick.  Watching Evans this year is like watching Ullrich against Armstrong.
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Honest John

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #568 on: 23 July, 2011, 11:27:43 am »
Quote from: Grub on 23 July, 2011, 10:36:00 am
Quote from: Honest John on 23 July, 2011, 10:12:39 am
Quote from: Bledlow on 23 July, 2011, 12:08:55 am
Quote from: Jakob on 22 July, 2011, 11:43:00 pm
Dunno..kinda lost it for the Schlecks with their pathetic whining about the descents....but I'd rather have them than Evans.
+1 for Andy, but did Frank whine, too?

Yes.

Evans isn't that boring, he just doesn't have a kick - like Ullrich.

WE all know where Ullrich got his kick from - unlike Evans.

The point is that Ullrich took about 100m to get going, despite any GDR-style "preparation".
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Honest John

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #569 on: 23 July, 2011, 11:28:29 am »
Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 23 July, 2011, 10:52:40 am
Quote from: Grub on 23 July, 2011, 10:36:00 am
WE all know where Ullrich got his kick from - unlike Evans.

I think he is comparing Evans to Ullrich...neither of them had a kick.  Watching Evans this year is like watching Ullrich against Armstrong.

Quite.
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GruB

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #570 on: 23 July, 2011, 11:31:17 am »
Okay, I know what you mean, I think.  Paul S and Phil L were talking about his diesel engine and how he doesn't respond as well to fast changes to the speed of the peleton.  Bradley Wiggins doesn't seem to have a kick either - but in my mind that doesn't make them bad or boring to watch.  If anything it makes it more exciting as there is the 'will he or wont he' catch them question.
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Honest John

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #571 on: 23 July, 2011, 11:33:31 am »
Quote from: Grub on 23 July, 2011, 11:31:17 am
Okay, I know what you mean, I think.  Paul S and Phil L were talking about his diesel engine and how he doesn't respond as well to fast changes to the speed of the peleton.  Bradley Wiggins doesn't seem to have a kick either - but in my mind that doesn't make them bad or boring to watch.  If anything it makes it more exciting as there is the 'will he or wont he' catch them question.

Although I do wish Cuddles would discover the small chainring more often, and spin. It's painful watching him sometimes.
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GruB

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #572 on: 23 July, 2011, 11:40:46 am »
This is one of the aspects of Evans that I respect this year.  He is riding in a way that suits him.  He is not trying to be something that he is not. It shows maturity and confidence in his ability and was lacking a few years ago I reckon.
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Rhys W

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Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #573 on: 23 July, 2011, 02:09:47 pm »
Eddy the Boss wearing a black armband today. Haven't seen Thor yet.
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GruB

Re: TdF 2011 general discussion thread - likely to contain spoilers
« Reply #574 on: 23 July, 2011, 02:13:06 pm »
Spoke to mum downunder.  The talk in Oz is 'Yell for Cadel'.  Massive support in Australia.
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