Author Topic: The TT Thread  (Read 408778 times)

clarion

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #725 on: 24 May, 2010, 09:56:33 am »
I suspect that the lad can beat me already.  But I can live with that.

So, do I just find out when they're riding & turn up, or do I have to be a member, or have a licence or whatnot?
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David Martin

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #726 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:00:14 am »
I suspect that the lad can beat me already.  But I can live with that.

So, do I just find out when they're riding & turn up, or do I have to be a member, or have a licence or whatnot?

Depends on the club/event.
If it is an open event then you might be able to just turn up. Some are Entry on the Line only.
If it is a club (confined) event then you will need to be a member.

You will probably need to either have British Cycling Silver membership, be a member of a RTTC affiliated club, or pay a day license fee.

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clarion

  • Tyke
Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #727 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:21:32 am »
National Clarion is CTT affiliated, so that should be OK :)

The lad has a BC license.
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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #728 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:23:26 am »
Our club evening TT's are open to anyone, you don't need to be a member - just £3 and a name and number on the entry form / start sheet.

You don't need a British Cycling race license to race TT's - they fall under Cycling Time Trials regulations. A BC licence is required for road bunch races and track events, possibly mountain biking and BMX events too.

Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #729 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:24:22 am »

If it is an open event then you might be able to just turn up. Some are Entry on the Line only.
If it is a club (confined) event then you will need to be a member.

You will probably need to either have British Cycling Silver membership, be a member of a RTTC affiliated club, or pay a day license fee.
You've got that pretty much back to front.

An open event is open to members of all CTT clubs and is entered by sending an entry form and payment about 10 days before the event.  These events are listed in the CTT handbook.  There is no entry on the line.

A club event is a much lower key event for club members, members of local clubs who come along.  The only stipulation is that you must be  amember of a CTT affiliated club for insurance purposes.  Some clubs get over this by signing you up as a temporary member for the event or for a few weeks.  These events are enter on the line and usually you only find out about them by contact with local clubs.

The CTT has also introduced a category of event labelled "come and try it".  This enables clubs to run an event like a club event but open to the general public.  The events tend to be short, less than 10 miles, and people ride everything from BMX up.  You need to check what local clubs are putting on.

There are some events that are club confined events, but these are rare and getting rarer.  These are association or interclub events.  Again you would only know about these by being a part of your local club.

Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #730 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:33:36 am »
Clarion, as an example, Redhill CC runs a regular Wednesday evening series Club TT Series | Redhill Cycling Club I don't know how convenient that would work out for you, but I'd suggest that going to club evening events is the best way of getting into time trailing before bothering with entry forms and deadlines for Sunday morning open events etc.

clarion

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #731 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:52:26 am »
That's probably near enough that I don't have an excuse ;)
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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #732 on: 24 May, 2010, 11:04:04 am »
Note that through June and July they use a dual carriageway course between Horsham and Crawley - probably not what you want. But there will be other clubs in your area...

Fixedwheelnut

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #733 on: 24 May, 2010, 09:35:58 pm »
 The Bexley CC Wednesday night 10TT is a turn up and pay £3 to ride, all sorts turn up, even fat bald sods like me, some riders on full CF TT bikes are still doing over 30 min tens but they are riding to beat their own time and thats what it is all about after all.
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David Martin

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #734 on: 24 May, 2010, 09:57:29 pm »

If it is an open event then you might be able to just turn up. Some are Entry on the Line only.
If it is a club (confined) event then you will need to be a member.

You will probably need to either have British Cycling Silver membership, be a member of a RTTC affiliated club, or pay a day license fee.
You've got that pretty much back to front.


OK. It is correct for Scotland though as CTT don't exist up here.  ;D

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #735 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:34:36 pm »
The Giro's the only bike that I could turn up with that wouldn't cause major sniggering.

If anyone sniggers, try a different club. In fact, if the winner doesn't seem willing to talk to the slower riders, try a different club too. We've variously had fashions for old bikes, fixed bikes, and so on. Beginners have turned up on cheap ten speeds. I got soundly beaten in another club's hilly event once by a rider who took a fancy to sticking his racing wheels into his mountain bike. I don't know why he did that, but he flew past me all the same.

David Martin

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #736 on: 24 May, 2010, 10:39:17 pm »
Last year, Hill Climb TT event in Fife. Hi tech TT bike..



Nobody laughed. He came last but he enjoyed himself and everyone was welcoming.
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clarion

  • Tyke
Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #737 on: 25 May, 2010, 09:13:55 am »
Fair enough.  You've convinced me.  But my stable does contain, alongside the Woodrup: Two tourers - one approaching 40 and the other (my daily commuter) with front & rear racks; a full-guarded Carlton fixie on it's way to 30; and a 1951 Rudge fixed.

This last may have a certain retro cachet, mind... ;)
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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #738 on: 25 May, 2010, 11:26:10 am »
When I went to watch токамак TTing a while back, I turned up on my tourer with a big rack bag to stow my camera so I could get some pics. Everyone was trying to get me to enter, but I declined as I was on my Surly which weighs about seven thousand pounds. They then regaled the story of a Dutch girl who turned up and did the 10 on a Dutch town bike. She managed about 35 minutes! On a town bike! Apparently she came back a few weeks later on a road bike and blitzed it.

It would have to be a pretty anal club to take the piss out of people for being slow or on a non TT/Road bike....
Those wonderful norks are never far from my thoughts, oh yeah!

Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #739 on: 26 May, 2010, 01:49:34 pm »
So, 15th on Sunday: Essex Roads CC - Open 24 mile Time Trial - Results

And Clarion - note the range of times. Trike man Alan Nye pulled out a big one and managed 13mph average. ;D

David Martin

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #740 on: 27 May, 2010, 11:01:32 pm »
My first time-trial tonight. 28:53 on my Audax bike complete with mudguards and a rackpack and no tri-bars. I'm not displeased with that. I wasn't last!

More pleasing was that the club seemed like a really nice friendly bunch (Didcot Phoenix). I think I might have another go sometime soon...  :thumbsup:

That's faster than me the other week on a carbon race bike with tribars...

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #741 on: 27 May, 2010, 11:05:04 pm »
A completely indifferent 25.32 on Wednesday. Legs like lead and a profound disinclination to really try. An off-day.

David Martin

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #742 on: 27 May, 2010, 11:05:54 pm »
A completely indifferent 25.32 on Wednesday. Legs like lead and a profound disinclination to really try. An off-day.

Now you are really trying to piss me off for being so damned slow....
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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #743 on: 27 May, 2010, 11:15:43 pm »

Now you are really trying to piss me off for being so damned slow....

Oh dear. Sorry.

Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #744 on: 27 May, 2010, 11:48:43 pm »
A completely indifferent 25.32 on Wednesday. Legs like lead and a profound disinclination to really try. An off-day.

Now you are really trying to piss me off for being so damned slow....

If it helps, I could only manage about 27:20 on the club 10. It's got a few little ups and downs and the fastest was about 22 something. That was slower than the 26:50 I rode two weeks before.
It starts by going up a little hill and I think that I hit it too hard and spend the rest of the ride trying to recover while trying to keep my pace up.
I need more practice and to learn how to pace myself for these short events...

Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #745 on: 28 May, 2010, 08:52:35 am »
A PB for me last night on the club 10 (9.65 actually). I'm on an improving trend at the moment, which is great, although I do wonder how long it can be sustained? 23.26. My plan for this year was to be more consistent, i.e. race on a more regular schedule compared with last year (which was my first at competing). It seems to be working for now.

David Martin

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #746 on: 28 May, 2010, 10:50:52 am »

Now you are really trying to piss me off for being so damned slow....

Oh dear. Sorry.


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mattc

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #747 on: 28 May, 2010, 11:16:03 am »
A PB for me last night on the club 10 (9.65 actually).
What is it with your club?

9.65 miles, 24 miles ... are you rebelling against the standard distances?
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mattc

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #748 on: 28 May, 2010, 11:27:31 am »
My first time-trial tonight. 28:53 on my Audax bike complete with mudguards and a rackpack and no tri-bars. I'm not displeased with that. I wasn't last!

More pleasing was that the club seemed like a really nice friendly bunch (Didcot Phoenix). I think I might have another go sometime soon...  :thumbsup:

Hmm ... I wonder if we could start an Audaxing Gentlemen* TT club ... I know there is already participation at the 24H level.

We could compile results from across the country, maybe bikejournal style. It would be a point of honour to only use Audax equipment, and to carry everything with you, so no leaving jackets with the timekeepers etc. No chaps in blazers looking for tri-bars, shiny overshoes or aero spokes.

If it gets big enough we could get results sheet annotated with our status (like the ladies, trikeys and vets currently have). This would all help remove the pressure to
get a TT bike, leave the rack-pack at home, and other modern shenanigans.

(currently I'm beating Ross, but that's neither here nor there ... ;) )

*To also include gentle ladies, of course.
Has never ridden RAAM
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Fixedwheelnut

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Re: The TT Thread
« Reply #749 on: 30 May, 2010, 01:02:54 am »


Date             Distance/Time         Course type       Weather conditions            Bike ridden              

05/07/06           10mls/26.39        Rolling  Q10/26     cleardry           Raleigh 76" gear
12/07/06            10 mls/25.38      rolling Q10/26      clear dry          Raleigh 86" gear
21-22/07/07   24hr TT/334           rolling                   cold drizzle     Lambert 72" gear
15/08/07         10mls/26.45      rolling Q10/26      clear dry            Lambert 72" gear
30/03/08         9mls/29.37       Hillyish Qs/30        wet                    Lambert 79" gear  
20/04/08        10mls/28.42    Hillyish Q10/3      dry and cold          Lambert 79" gear
26/04/08        10mls/27.09      rolling Q10 /22   warm & sunny      Lambert 76" gear
25/06/08        10mls/27.24        rolling  Q10/26     hot/windy         Lambert 76" gear
28/06/08           10mls/27.16    Hillyish Q10/3      dry and hot        Lambert 79" gear
9/7/08             9mls/30,23      Hilly QS 30   pouring down/windy RonCooper71.22"gear
23/07/08       10mls/ 25.33  rolling Q10/26  hot & windy                  Graham Weigh  83" gear
26/07/08       10mls/25.30  flat      Q10/24   hot /windy                   Graham Weigh 83" gear  
29/07/08       10mls /25.40  rolling  Q10/26  hot slight wind             Graham weigh 83" gear
6/8/08           10mls / 25.10 rolling Q10/26  hot                     Graham Weigh  88" gear
13/08/08       10mls/26.0   rolling    Q10/26  very windy                      Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/04/09       10mls/27.01  rolling   Q10/18  cold/windy                     Graham Weigh  88" gear
25/04/09       10mls/25.28     flat    Q10/19     slight wind                   Graham Weigh    83" gear
20/05/09       10mls/26.07  rolling  Q10/26  slight wind/warm           Graham Weigh 83"gear
30/05/09       10mls/25.39  rolling  Q10/22  warm/cross wind            Graham Weigh  83" gear
03/06/09       10mls/25.14  rolling  Q10/26  warm                              Graham Weigh 83" gear
10/06/09       10mls/25.34  rolling  Q10/26  cool/ slight wind             Graham Weigh 83" gear
17/06/09        10mls/25.20  rolling         Q10/26 cool/windy               Graham Weigh 88" gear
21/06/09        10mls/25.25           rolling Q10/18  warm                     Graham Weigh 88" gear
24/06/09        10mls/25.05 rolling Q10/26 warm                     Graham Weigh 88" gear
 05/07/09        25mls/1:05:34       rolling Q25/8 hot                          Graham Weigh 88" gear
15/07/09   10mls/25.45  rolling Q10/26 windy   Graham Weigh  83" gear
19/07/09    25mls/1.08.22  rolling Q25/20 windy Graham Weigh 83" gear
01/08/09   10mls/26.02  flattish Q10/24 bloody windy  Graham Weigh 88" gear
05/08/09     10mls/25.11    Q10/26 rolling/warm   Graham Weigh 88" gear
19/08/09   10mls/25.15      Q10/18  rolling/hot      Graham Weigh  88" gear
20/09/09     25/1:09:50  G25/89 rolling, damp     Raleigh Ti Proffessional 14speed
11/04/10    9.5mls/28:07   QS/30  Hilly/cold           Lambert Proffessional  76" gear
24/04/10   10mls/25.47   Q10/19  flat with a drag dry/mild   Graham Weigh 88" gear
 19/05/10   10mls/26.14  Q10/26 cool/ breeze  Graham Weigh 88" gear

 


26/05/10      10mls/25.51  Q10/26   cool breeze  Graham Weigh  90.5" gear

Well I tried out the HED Disc wheel and upped the gear to 90.5" but that made it harder to the turn, I may gear back down, I also got a horrible speed wobble on down Gorse Hill at 38mph and had to back off  :(
 Faster than last week but not fast enough.
"Don't stop pedalling"