It doesn’t matter where you start. Just start.
You're spoilt, Lee. there is nothing tarnished about Wenger's reputation. It's all the minds of some fans. It's up there with first world problems. Anyone who supports a loss lofty team will tell you that. Arsenal have finished in the top 6 for the last 22 years or something. Nothing tarnished about that. The man is an unqualified success.
... if you plotted a graph of his success, it would be a classic bell-curve...
Clearly he helped raise the standards of the English game
Quote from: LEE on 21 April, 2018, 11:45:29 pmClearly he helped raise the standards of the English gameHe may not have a trophy to celebrate that fact, but to influence the standards of a national game, whether on or off the field, is a huge achievement in itself.
I doubt that they will have any difficulty recruiting a total arse though.
Quote from: Wowbagger on 21 April, 2018, 11:44:11 pmI doubt that they will have any difficulty recruiting a total arse though.I heard a rumour that Brendan Rodgers is a contender to replace him. That would tick that box.
Quote from: citoyen on 25 April, 2018, 10:39:29 amQuote from: Wowbagger on 21 April, 2018, 11:44:11 pmI doubt that they will have any difficulty recruiting a total arse though.I heard a rumour that Brendan Rodgers is a contender to replace him. That would tick that box.I think his reputation has been tarnished somewhat unfairly by the last year and a bit at Liverpool. I hope he gets another chance somewhere he can realistically challenge for things.
Quote from: DuncanM on 25 April, 2018, 01:53:59 pmQuote from: citoyen on 25 April, 2018, 10:39:29 amQuote from: Wowbagger on 21 April, 2018, 11:44:11 pmI doubt that they will have any difficulty recruiting a total arse though.I heard a rumour that Brendan Rodgers is a contender to replace him. That would tick that box.I think his reputation has been tarnished somewhat unfairly by the last year and a bit at Liverpool. I hope he gets another chance somewhere he can realistically challenge for things.Lets add that his reputation was tarnished in the way he left his first management job and went to Reading.
Quote from: Von Broad on 23 April, 2018, 06:32:05 pmQuote from: LEE on 21 April, 2018, 11:45:29 pmClearly he helped raise the standards of the English gameHe may not have a trophy to celebrate that fact, but to influence the standards of a national game, whether on or off the field, is a huge achievement in itself.He did very little to help actual English players and was, i think, the first manager to field a side devoid of English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish players.
Yes, the foreign thing isn't down to Wenger alone. I think he must have arrived at Wengeral in about 1996. Manchester United won the championship in 1996-7 and four of their main players stand out as being in the current tradition of foreign - Schmeichel, Cantona, Cruyff and Solskjaer - and that's in the team that had (and probably still has) the best youth set-up in the league.