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Title: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 29 January, 2019, 08:24:22 pm
This year's editions of the 200 & 100km Horsepower Audaxes are revving up ...

100km Brevet Populaire checked today and amended route sheet plus info onto the AUK website. I have added a new alternative [advisory] route back from Great Sampford via Bardfield - a quieter and prettier route than the B184 from Thaxted, which remains the official 'gritted' route in case of freezing conditions. There is still the laney route option from Thaxted, possible to use both ways if free from ice, but rather pot holed in places. Both alternatives add about 1.2km.

The 200 will certainly be advised of the new route, as it's a better way to Dunmow for full-value riders in the dark. Cafe at Snetterton is up to speed as well - we'll be doing a Helpers' Ride on Saturday 2nd March, if anyone else would like to ride then and help on 9th. If previous editions are anything to go by, then we'll be having a coffee and cake stop in Lavenham, the village shop or maybe the chippy in East Harling and then an afternoon second lunch binge at Wetherspoons in Newmarket. Finish at the Angel and Harp in Churchend.

There will be the first deployment of our ACME PBP Qualifier Stickers!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: rob on 30 January, 2019, 12:26:58 pm
This is coming round quite quickly.   My longest road ride this year, so far, is 40 miles.

5 weeks, eh ?
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 30 January, 2019, 03:21:19 pm
Certainly interested in the helpers ride  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 30 January, 2019, 05:42:51 pm
Certainly interested in the helpers ride  :thumbsup:

Ta! I'll sample opinions nearer to 2nd March as to a starting time for the Helpers' Ride - last time, a late start to accommodate F & BHOOT, train assisted, I think.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: drossall on 30 January, 2019, 10:44:25 pm
It's on my list :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 05 February, 2019, 08:20:10 pm
9th March is a motorbike trackday at Snetterton this year  :thumbsup:

For the Helpers' Ride on Saturday 2nd, it's a car novice trackday, so Tyrrell's Restaurant will be open for our lunch stop :thumbsup: Helpers get treated by the organiser  :-* The bar is normally shut for trackdays, so it'll have to be the Golden Lion ['spoons] in Newmarket for our pub stop [pint, apple crumble n'custard for me  :thumbsup:]
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Phil W on 05 February, 2019, 08:23:32 pm
Enjoy, we have a family get together, so I won't be able to make it.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 05 February, 2019, 08:52:27 pm
For the Helpers' Ride on Saturday 2nd, it's a car novice trackday, so Tyrrell's Restaurant will be open for our lunch stop :thumbsup:

Any idea whether there's anything open on 23rd Feb?  I'll be heading off to Melton Mowbray on the 2nd ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: bhoot on 05 February, 2019, 10:47:25 pm
9th March is a motorbike trackday at Snetterton this year  :thumbsup:

For the Helpers' Ride on Saturday 2nd, it's a car novice trackday, so Tyrrell's Restaurant will be open for our lunch stop :thumbsup: Helpers get treated by the organiser  :-* The bar is normally shut for trackdays, so it'll have to be the Golden Lion ['spoons] in Newmarket for our pub stop [pint, apple crumble n'custard for me  :thumbsup:]
You know how to entice your helpers!  Date noted, will check the calendar and let you know
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 06 February, 2019, 08:32:29 am
For the Helpers' Ride on Saturday 2nd, it's a car novice trackday, so Tyrrell's Restaurant will be open for our lunch stop :thumbsup:

Any idea whether there's anything open on 23rd Feb?  I'll be heading off to Melton Mowbray on the 2nd ...

23rd Feb is a 'No Limits' trackday - ie not an MSV [circuit's owner] one. No Limits website says catering available - that's all, so short of phoning the catering manager, I'd reckon you'll be ok - might just be a burger van though!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 06 February, 2019, 09:06:53 am
For the Helpers' Ride on Saturday 2nd, it's a car novice trackday, so Tyrrell's Restaurant will be open for our lunch stop :thumbsup:

Any idea whether there's anything open on 23rd Feb?  I'll be heading off to Melton Mowbray on the 2nd ...

23rd Feb is a 'No Limits' trackday - ie not an MSV [circuit's owner] one. No Limits website says catering available - that's all, so short of phoning the catering manager, I'd reckon you'll be ok - might just be a burger van though!

Thanks, Tom — I'll make sure to get alt-pop in East Harling if necessary  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 06 February, 2019, 02:06:19 pm
Thanks, Tom — I'll make sure to get alt-pop in East Harling if necessary  :thumbsup:

If there's an event on there'll be someone in the main office, as well as the trackside HQ. They do have a rather nice rubber stamp, I seem to recall! Selfie by the gates will do as p-o-p.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Carlosfandango on 06 February, 2019, 02:38:21 pm
Whenever I've been to Snetterton for a trackday the café/restaurant has always been open, both for MSV and private trackdays. I'd be very surprised if it was closed.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Nik's Nick on 06 February, 2019, 02:49:04 pm
The only time I've been there it was v shut indeed.

Tom - might be able to do the helpers ride, will check with SWMBO (although I've already entered the main event - would that cover a helper's brevet?).
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 06 February, 2019, 05:11:17 pm
The only time I've been there it was v shut indeed.

Tom - might be able to do the helpers ride, will check with SWMBO (although I've already entered the main event - would that cover a helper's brevet?).

Yes, ta! I hope we'll have lots of helpers for the actual event - it's gonna be busy, what with folks qualifying for that French Ride ... I have two controllers for Lavenham [1st control] lined up, but extra help at start and finish will be needed - even if breakfast helpers go on to ride. Offspring stamping cards at Snetterton as per usual, is the plan.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: tippers_kiwi on 07 February, 2019, 08:56:31 am
I'll try to make the Helpers Ride so I can help out on the day Tom.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 07 February, 2019, 09:23:25 am
^ Cheers tippers! We've four controllers out at Lavenham and Snetterton, and with you that's another four helpers at the start - should be about right. We'll need someone on standby for Snetterton, as Soupy isn't sure of his commitments on 9th yet.

Entries around the 120 mark at present, so there'll be two starts 15 minutes apart ... tbc.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: tippers_kiwi on 07 February, 2019, 09:46:30 am
You can put me down as a potential Snetterton standby, especially if the forecast is good ;-)

EDIT: You can put me down as a definite standby for Snetterton. It's a nice easy motorised run up there from Colchester so happy to go if needed.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: BFC on 07 February, 2019, 02:57:00 pm
I am planning to make the helpers ride on the 2nd march at TBD o'clock.

Happy to assist on the day at Snetterton, travelling by tin box, don't care about the weather - fits in with visiting family in Dereham and Watton.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 07 February, 2019, 07:14:44 pm
I am planning to make the helpers ride on the 2nd march at TBD o'clock.

Happy to assist on the day at Snetterton, travelling by tin box, don't care about the weather - fits in with visiting family in Dereham and Watton.


 :thumbsup: I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: huggy on 18 February, 2019, 05:31:37 pm
I've sorted my ECE route and submitted it to extend the 100k HP.  I'm riding it on Sunday 24th so I can get my February RRtY tick and 24th consecutive month of randonneuring....just have to let the RRtY Secretary know to count it in Feb and not March when it comes around to validations....think he'll be okay with it as long as I buy him a pint!
There is a plan afoot to be back at the Angel and Harp for a Sunday lunchtime-ish refreshment before continuing with the final 60km of the day.

Will be available for helping duties on the 9th  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: psyclist on 18 February, 2019, 06:09:17 pm
....just have to let the RRtY Secretary know to count it in Feb and not March when it comes around to validations....think he'll be okay with it as long as I buy him a pint!

Just one pint? The new RRtY Secretary must be a soft touch!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: huggy on 18 February, 2019, 08:11:33 pm
....just have to let the RRtY Secretary know to count it in Feb and not March when it comes around to validations....think he'll be okay with it as long as I buy him a pint!

Just one pint? The new RRtY Secretary must be a soft touch!
Depends who’s buying  ;D
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: tippers_kiwi on 19 February, 2019, 07:30:21 am
 :thumbsup: on the 24mth RRTY Huggy, good effort.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: josser on 19 February, 2019, 06:26:05 pm
Well done Huggy  :thumbsup:

I can’t make the 9th, skiing in Switzerland, have a good ride everyone
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 24 February, 2019, 04:56:29 pm
It was a near-perfect spring day for cycling yesterday — in winter! — and I had a terrific day out riding the first route-check of the 200  :thumbsup:

Usual long-winded write-up with a few pictures here — you'll have to read the prose to get a couple of the photos — https://www.strava.com/activities/2172188637 (https://www.strava.com/activities/2172188637)

Nothing much to report — a couple of notes for Tomsk to consider next week when the second route-check takes place and a slight tweak to the GPX.

Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: rob on 24 February, 2019, 08:37:09 pm
Is that a new bike ?
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Phil W on 24 February, 2019, 08:43:42 pm
It was a near-perfect spring day for cycling yesterday — in winter! — and I had a terrific day out riding the first route-check of the 200  :thumbsup:

Usual long-winded write-up with a few pictures here — you'll have to read the prose to get a couple of the photos — https://www.strava.com/activities/2172188637 (https://www.strava.com/activities/2172188637)

Nothing much to report — a couple of notes for Tomsk to consider next week when the second route-check takes place and a slight tweak to the GPX.

You have, of course, now cursed the event day with colder, wetter, windier weather.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 24 February, 2019, 09:36:30 pm
Is that a new bike ?

"New" — not exactly.  "New to me" — yes. 

An eBay-special 1987 Claud Butler with 27" wheels and delivered as a box of bits for the princely sum of £32, which I then built up into a 700c fixie-conversion with bits from the shed and several visits to Bicycle Ambulance for a rummage through theirs  :thumbsup:

I have a French frame in the shed, another eBay special, awaiting the same treatment for PBP  :)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 24 February, 2019, 09:37:16 pm
You have, of course, now cursed the event day with colder, wetter, windier weather.

Not my intent, not at all  ;D
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 24 February, 2019, 10:14:27 pm
Thanks Wilkyboy - those road works and 'closures' [not generally applicable to bikes, thankfully], keep popping up around here ...

Helpers' Ride and Route Check next Saturday, 07:30 start.

100km all checked and ready to go, mailing riders this week.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: tippers_kiwi on 26 February, 2019, 01:52:42 pm
Thanks Wilkyboy - those road works and 'closures' [not generally applicable to bikes, thankfully], keep popping up around here ...

Helpers' Ride and Route Check next Saturday, 07:30 start.

100km all checked and ready to go, mailing riders this week.
:thumbsup:
I'll say it now so it's out there.....I'm more than happy to be dropped and make my own way round and hopefully catch up at food and watering stops. I suspect I am going to be painfully slow for all you folk with lots of miles in the legs.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 26 February, 2019, 02:07:43 pm
I'll say it now so it's out there.....I'm more than happy to be dropped and make my own way round and hopefully catch up at food and watering stops. I suspect I am going to be painfully slow for all you folk with lots of miles in the legs.

I remember riding this, several years ago when the model shop was still open, and you all dropped me after the turn and back into a headwind.  I did catch you all up, as you, Tippers, were having to fix a double-puncture with hands in gloves in bitter cold and driven sleet (https://www.16inchwheels.uk/2015/01/31/horses-for-courses-200-perm/) — I passed that particular grass verge and smiled as I did at the memory, given that it was +13°C at the time  :P ;D
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: huggy on 26 February, 2019, 02:12:44 pm
...given that it was +13°C at the time  :P ;D
I'm looking forward to a sunny ride of the 100+ECE tomorrow  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: tippers_kiwi on 26 February, 2019, 02:29:49 pm
I'll say it now so it's out there.....I'm more than happy to be dropped and make my own way round and hopefully catch up at food and watering stops. I suspect I am going to be painfully slow for all you folk with lots of miles in the legs.

I remember riding this, several years ago when the model shop was still open, and you all dropped me after the turn and back into a headwind.  I did catch you all up, as you, Tippers, were having to fix a double-puncture with hands in gloves in bitter cold and driven sleet (https://www.16inchwheels.uk/2015/01/31/horses-for-courses-200-perm/) — I passed that particular grass verge and smiled as I did at the memory, given that it was +13°C at the time  :P ;D
Yes, I remember that well! I still have the Pics from that ride and then the even a week later in the same spot. First one Sideways Snow the second one Bright BLue sky!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Bernster on 26 February, 2019, 03:06:13 pm
I'll say it now so it's out there.....I'm more than happy to be dropped and make my own way round and hopefully catch up at food and watering stops. I suspect I am going to be painfully slow for all you folk with lots of miles in the legs.

I remember riding this, several years ago when the model shop was still open, and you all dropped me after the turn and back into a headwind.  I did catch you all up, as you, Tippers, were having to fix a double-puncture with hands in gloves in bitter cold and driven sleet (https://www.16inchwheels.uk/2015/01/31/horses-for-courses-200-perm/) — I passed that particular grass verge and smiled as I did at the memory, given that it was +13°C at the time  :P ;D
I think that's the coldest I've ever been in my life! One of my first Audax rides, and despite the weather conditions, for some reason I'm still coming back for more  ???
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 26 February, 2019, 03:40:44 pm
It was a near-perfect spring day for cycling yesterday — in winter! — and I had a terrific day out riding the first route-check of the 200  :thumbsup:

Usual long-winded write-up with a few pictures here — you'll have to read the prose to get a couple of the photos — https://www.strava.com/activities/2172188637 (https://www.strava.com/activities/2172188637)

Nothing much to report — a couple of notes for Tomsk to consider next week when the second route-check takes place and a slight tweak to the GPX.

What we at for the total GPX distance now on the actual event? I have another silly ECE idea taking shape but would like to take advantage of any overdist, I think I made it 208 from your ridden track?
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 26 February, 2019, 03:41:52 pm
What we at for the total GPX distance now on the actual event? I have another silly ECE idea taking shape but would like to take advantage of any overdist, I think I made it 208 from your ridden track?

206 if you ride the Thaxted+B184 return.  208 if you ride the Gt Bardfield return.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 26 February, 2019, 05:07:51 pm
What we at for the total GPX distance now on the actual event? I have another silly ECE idea taking shape but would like to take advantage of any overdist, I think I made it 208 from your ridden track?

206 if you ride the Thaxted+B184 return.  208 if you ride the Gt Bardfield return.

Ah yes - I forgot about the options on return plus other sheltered (but a bit longer) routes.  I'll probably can the crazy idea of a 300 and just stick to the job at hand of the route check! :)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: huggy on 27 February, 2019, 01:10:25 pm
I am currently enjoying the inverse of a helpers’ ride sacrifice to the weather gods. Mr Garmin states that it’s 24C in the Newmarket Golden Lion pub garden, it is very sunny.  Must do this midweek daytime riding more often!!
(The group helpers’ ride looks like it will be doing the proper sacrifial offering on Saturday.)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: psyclist on 27 February, 2019, 02:11:59 pm
(The group helpers’ ride looks like it will be doing the proper sacrifial offering on Saturday.)

Shouldn’t be too bad, just a bit of precipitation late on ... perhaps
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: BFC on 27 February, 2019, 06:09:59 pm
See you all Saturday 2nd March for the helpers ride at 7:30 somewhere in Dunmow. Where are we meeting?

Duplicating this post on the MEMWNS thread to minimize confusion/risk of cock ups.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 28 February, 2019, 09:25:48 am
See you all Saturday 2nd March for the helpers ride at 7:30 somewhere in Dunmow. Where are we meeting?

Duplicating this post on the MEMWNS thread to minimize confusion/risk of cock ups.

 :thumbsup: 7:30 from my house. Get here early for tea and toast. There will be the opportunity to use our new cycle-parking in the front garden, though I'm not sure 7 bikes will all fit in!

Elevenses at Chilli and Chives, Lavenham, lunch at Tyrrell's Restaurant, Snetterton Circuit, puddings and maybe a beer at the Golden Lion, Newmarket, Angel and Harp for the Arrivee - ie the usual Club Run Tour de Eateries. We took just over 11 hours last year. If it's going to be as windy as predicted, it will likely be over 12 this time, we'll see ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: psyclist on 28 February, 2019, 10:39:06 am
If it's going to be as windy as predicted, it will likely be over 12 this time, we'll see ...

I hadn't clocked the wind situation. So it's forecast to get stronger through the day on Saturday, and as a south westerly that's not the best scenario!

I had to abort a ride this morning due to tyre deflation issues. There's a small slit in the sidewall that I think is the cause, and the tyre is now flat again. I'm hoping a replacement tyre will arrive tomorrow and all will be fine, otherwise I'll be on a more dependable bike.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 28 February, 2019, 07:56:28 pm
Email with information and routesheet gone out to 100km riders this evening. Updated documents on AUKweb.

200km stuff going out early next week.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: josser on 01 March, 2019, 08:16:08 am
See you all Saturday 2nd March for the helpers ride at 7:30 somewhere in Dunmow. Where are we meeting?

Duplicating this post on the MEMWNS thread to minimize confusion/risk of cock ups.

 :thumbsup: 7:30 from my house. Get here early for tea and toast. There will be the opportunity to use our new cycle-parking in the front garden, though I'm not sure 7 bikes will all fit in!

Elevenses at Chilli and Chives, Lavenham, lunch at Tyrrell's Restaurant, Snetterton Circuit, puddings and maybe a beer at the Golden Lion, Newmarket, Angel and Harp for the Arrivee - ie the usual Club Run Tour de Eateries. We took just over 11 hours last year. If it's going to be as windy as predicted, it will likely be over 12 this time, we'll see ...

Not sure Linda will make it tomorrow, so just me now I’m afraid!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 01 March, 2019, 06:50:25 pm
See you all Saturday 2nd March for the helpers ride at 7:30 somewhere in Dunmow. Where are we meeting?

Duplicating this post on the MEMWNS thread to minimize confusion/risk of cock ups.

 :thumbsup: 7:30 from my house. Get here early for tea and toast. There will be the opportunity to use our new cycle-parking in the front garden, though I'm not sure 7 bikes will all fit in!

Elevenses at Chilli and Chives, Lavenham, lunch at Tyrrell's Restaurant, Snetterton Circuit, puddings and maybe a beer at the Golden Lion, Newmarket, Angel and Harp for the Arrivee - ie the usual Club Run Tour de Eateries. We took just over 11 hours last year. If it's going to be as windy as predicted, it will likely be over 12 this time, we'll see ...

See you just after 7.  Weather looking OK for tomorrow...  :thumbsup:

I have a easy route in to 'spoons avoiding having to head over that rough cut through more than once... (1st R after RBT then 1st left onto the road at the back)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: BFC on 01 March, 2019, 08:41:44 pm
See you around 7:00 tomorrow at Toms, Garmin #1 has the GPS files on it. On the winter rigged track fixed machine - see if it is suitable for the arrow (no bottle cages, but with saddle bag).

Expecting some rain and a lot of wind - at least the rain should blow through fairly quickly!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: the straggler on 02 March, 2019, 12:59:57 pm
Just met up with route checkers on the helpers ride Tomsk, KFC, Tippers, Jibers, Josser and Psyclist at the Chilli and Chives in Lavenham, who must lunching at the Snertterton circuit by now. Conversation progressed as to whom who had missed their turn on the front, and who will be doing the donkey work when they face the head wind. Sensibly I turned right at Great Green and pootled back home. I'm conserving my energy for the official Horsepower event next weekend.

(Ride strategy and confessions of a straggler: rather tuck in than muck in, why graft when you can draft, more shirker than worker, its all about hanging on than banging on).
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Chris S on 02 March, 2019, 02:55:48 pm
I've just ordered a new waterproof. You can thank me for a nice warm sunny day next week. I also accept beer tokens.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: josser on 03 March, 2019, 08:49:42 am
Just met up with route checkers on the helpers ride Tomsk, KFC, Tippers, Jibers, Josser and Psyclist at the Chilli and Chives in Lavenham, who must lunching at the Snertterton circuit by now. Conversation progressed as to whom who had missed their turn on the front, and who will be doing the donkey work when they face the head wind. Sensibly I turned right at Great Green and pootled back home. I'm conserving my energy for the official Horsepower event next weekend.

(Ride strategy and confessions of a straggler: rather tuck in than muck in, why graft when you can draft, more shirker than worker, its all about hanging on than banging on).

G’day Strangler, good to see you briefly yesterday. You missed out on some killer headwinds back from snetterton - good for the soul...!

Thanks for letting me tag along yesterday Tomsk, good ride in great company and the perfect way to complete my first RRtY. Hope it all goes well next Saturday, will be sending positive weather vibes from Switzerland!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: the straggler on 03 March, 2019, 01:53:19 pm
Many congrats on your maiden RRTYJosser - but you will need to do 4 on the bounce to keep up with Greysheep.

Easy life for some skiing in Switzerland next week, it's going to be downhill all the waaayyyyy......enjoy.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 04 March, 2019, 04:38:30 pm
I finally got round to sorting out a couple of fliers for these events, it can be a PIA finding license free images for the background!

 I've only just got them on to social media  :facepalm:

(https://images2.imgbox.com/7e/62/mIEnF5DG_o.png) (http://imgbox.com/mIEnF5DG)

(https://images2.imgbox.com/53/52/UG4vPLLt_o.png) (http://imgbox.com/UG4vPLLt)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: josser on 04 March, 2019, 08:54:45 pm
I finally got round to sorting out a couple of fliers for these events, it can be a PIA finding license free images for the background!

 I've only just got them on to social media  :facepalm:

(https://images2.imgbox.com/7e/62/mIEnF5DG_o.png) (http://imgbox.com/mIEnF5DG)

(https://images2.imgbox.com/53/52/UG4vPLLt_o.png) (http://imgbox.com/UG4vPLLt)

I see you’ve cropped me out of the second photo!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 04 March, 2019, 09:06:42 pm
 :thumbsup: Thanks jiberjaber - entries still rolling in ...

Despite knowing we were returning into the wind, we still look cheerful! I was quite impressed by our average speed for the whole ride though, so it didn't drop off that much on the way back.

A similar strong-ish west-south-westerly awaits on Saturday, if the forecast is to be believed.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Nik's Nick on 04 March, 2019, 10:20:00 pm
Ideal for a quick motor up to Snetterton, and a genteel canter back through Newmarket.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 04 March, 2019, 11:08:59 pm
I finally got round to sorting out a couple of fliers for these events, it can be a PIA finding license free images for the background!

 I've only just got them on to social media  :facepalm:
................
I see you’ve cropped me out of the second photo!

Not in malice, just to get the photo to fit.... you'll notice someone else missing also!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: josser on 05 March, 2019, 07:33:29 am
I finally got round to sorting out a couple of fliers for these events, it can be a PIA finding license free images for the background!

 I've only just got them on to social media  :facepalm:
................
I see you’ve cropped me out of the second photo!

Not in malice, just to get the photo to fit.... you'll notice someone else missing also!  :facepalm:

Yes, thank goodness!  :P
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: psyclist on 05 March, 2019, 08:07:16 am
Ideal for a quick motor up to Snetterton, and a genteel canter back through Newmarket.

Be careful ... too much racing on the way up may lead to the trots on the return
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Nik's Nick on 05 March, 2019, 08:39:35 am
Sorry to ruin the metaphors, but it's more likely to lead to Essex Energy Drinks on the way back.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Phil W on 05 March, 2019, 10:10:20 am
Ideal for a quick motor up to Snetterton, and a genteel canter back through Newmarket.

Be careful ... too much racing on the way up may lead to the trots on the return

You night have to reign it in on the return, though no doubt some will try and hoof it back
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 05 March, 2019, 03:42:06 pm
Ideal for a quick motor up to Snetterton, and a genteel canter back through Newmarket.

Be careful ... too much racing on the way up may lead to the trots on the return

You might have to reign it in on the return, though no doubt some will try and hoof it back

 ::-) Watt-ho! The wits of yacf jockey for position.

At least word-play makes a change from stressing about the wind and weather ...

Sorry to ruin the metaphors, but it's more likely to lead to Essex Energy Drinks on the way back.

Neigh, surely not!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: huggy on 05 March, 2019, 03:53:04 pm
Surely all this punning will make us all a little hoarse
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Phil W on 05 March, 2019, 04:13:35 pm
Time to put it out to pasture before it turns into a mare and Tomsk calls foal.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: L CC on 05 March, 2019, 04:22:47 pm
First audax since the Flatlands.

Gonna be a 'mare.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: psyclist on 08 March, 2019, 09:17:22 am
Weather is looking good for everybody tomorrow. Dry, not too cold, but perhaps a little blowy. Forecast to be a westerly, which will make the Snetterton to Newmarket stretch a little slow for those on the 200.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 08 March, 2019, 09:43:10 am
Just to re-iterate morning timings: SMC open from 19:30 this evening to set up and welcome the pyjama party. Over to the Angel and Harp at some point.

06:00 sleeps wake and prep for breakfast from about 06:30.

After 07:30 and 09:00 starts, clearing up, collect the bread order, controllers leave for Lavenham and Snetterton, remaining helpers ride out for an elevenses treat at the Blue Egg, back for 100km opening at 12:24.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 08 March, 2019, 01:03:21 pm
How many are in the pyjama party Tom?

I'm torn between the overnight with an extra 90 mins in bed however, less keen on the wet ride over tonight...  suspect I'll make my way over in the morning subject to hangover etc...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 08 March, 2019, 05:29:39 pm
How many are in the pyjama party Tom?

I'm torn between the overnight with an extra 90 mins in bed however, less keen on the wet ride over tonight...  suspect I'll make my way over in the morning subject to hangover etc...

6 I think, without digging out my paperwork. Rain has been light here, so far ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: jiberjaber on 08 March, 2019, 05:33:38 pm
Think I'll aim for riding over in the morning, see you then.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 08 March, 2019, 05:35:06 pm
Two support vehicle loads of food and control stuff delivered this afternoon; just need to the spend the evening sorting it all out and welcoming the pyjama party. Then to the Angel and Harp ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: BFC on 08 March, 2019, 06:58:46 pm
i will be at SMC for approx 06:00 to assist with the launch activities, then heading over to Snetterton to meet the 200K riders with an ACME stamp, before sending them off into the not so gentle breeze.
I'm heading off into deepest darkest Norfolk from Snetterton so no engine assisted option back to Dunmow from me.
Good luck to all of the riders this weekend, a bit of team work on the way back will help.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Deano4 on 10 March, 2019, 09:33:58 am
I’ll go first then.

From 07:20 we were set off in waves a few minutes apart. I was eager to get started so positioned myself to ensure I was in the first wave.

This ride was quite good as each stage was roughly 50km, so could divide it up that there would be roughly four 2-3 hours rides. The first control was Lavenham, the wind was with me and it felt like I was flying, which was just as well as I took a wrong turn and had to backtrack a bit to get back on to the route. It didn’t really matter though as I got to the control and Nick stamped my card.

Whilst there I met Jan, Andy and Chris. We would spend the rest of the ride cycling together. The next control was at Snetterton Race circuit. The wind was with us for the most part however as we approached the circuit we cycled through a storm. The rain came down quick, heavy and cold. Worst of all though the wind was blowing it at speed sideways like daggers hitting my face. Luckily though we could see blue skies in the distance so just had to suffer through it. However worse than the rain was the wind as soon as we entered the circuit. It gust strong and hard like a smack in the face, it also didn’t help that by now I was starving and in need of decent meal. There was nothing to do but spin and try and move forwards to the restaurant.

The next stage to Newmarket would prove to be toughest, we were changing direction now, going into the wind. To make things easier we decided to each spend 5 minutes on the front, taking it in turns to suffer the brunt of the wind. By the time we reached Newmarket the wind had died down a bit but then we had the rolling hills to contend with. Those 50km took us nearly four hours and the Wetherspoons we controlled at was never more inviting. A quick meal and then on to the last 50km back to Dunmow.

The worst of the wind was now behind us and towards the end I think we had a tail wind! We took the main and fast road back which may have been a mistake as there were some questionable overtaking manoeuvres by the Essex motorists! Thankfully though we all made it back safely to the Arrivee just after 19:00hrs.

So that’s the first PBP qualifier done and ride 4 of my RRTY.

Many thanks to Tom and all the ACME team for organising.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Dai P on 10 March, 2019, 09:49:10 am
A game of two half’s!  On top for the first half, in full control and moving really well.  All felt comfortable, started to get a wee bit less comfortable just before half time. Second half lost the pace considerably, struggled to keep moving forwards at times, was hanging on a bit for a while.  About half way through this half things started to pick up a bit, got back into control, but at a slower pace that earlier in the game.  Was pleased with the end result and overall was tested but happy.

A huge ‘well done’ to Tom and all volunteers, made the game both possible and enjoyable.  One down...... more to come.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: rob on 10 March, 2019, 10:55:26 am
Set off quite briskly, enjoying the tailwind, at times on my own and others in small groups.  I had a fairy visit about 5 miles short of Snetterton.  Rear wheel, naturally.   Despite this I was still at the turn in 3h30.

I borrowed the track pump to top my tyre up but accidentally unscrewed the valve core, causing a complete deflation.   Tyre pumped back up I set off into the increasing headwind.  Somewhere just after Honington the rear went flat again.  With a bit of swearing I used my last tube up and then rode to Newmarket.  I detoured off to Halfords to pick up another couple of tubes.  Guy behind the counter asked if I was having a good day.  Given I was pretty tetchy by this point his timing was not great.

From here the run back was easier with the wind from the side so progress was decent.  I got in in 9hrs which was an hour slower than last year which had much more benign conditions.

I did, for some reason, cock up my fuelling, especially hydration and I was quite wobbly at the HQ.  A bit of TLC, a couple of cheese rolls and a load of squash sorted me out before the drive home.

Thanks to all the ACME crew for looking after us all.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 10 March, 2019, 06:33:59 pm
Any more encounter with the 'Pothole of Doom'? I've narrowed it down to Norwich Lane, between Knettishall and Sapiston. This is very much the flinty, potholed, stamping ground of 'She Who Must Not Be Named' - Tippers had his double 'visitation' a few years ago on a snowy perm/helpers' ride [not sure which]: famously repaired with gloves kept on [while we all watched, gave 'helpful' advice, and shivered]!

That's two bikes written off there yesterday - classic front end impacts - wobbly front wheel, forks ok but top and down tubes bent/fractured downwards. Injuries, but thankfully non requiring 'blue lamps'. PM/email me if you need to report an accident, please.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 10 March, 2019, 06:54:48 pm
https://www.fillthathole.org.uk might be useful.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 10 March, 2019, 06:56:16 pm
Any more encounter with the 'Pothole of Doom'? I've narrowed it down to Norwich Lane, between Knettishall and Sapiston. This is very much the flinty, potholed, stamping ground of 'She Who Must Not Be Named' - Tippers had his double 'visitation' a few years ago on a snowy perm/helpers' ride [not sure which]: famously repaired with gloves kept on [while we all watched, gave 'helpful' advice, and shivered]!

That's two bikes written off there yesterday - classic front end impacts - wobbly front wheel, forks ok but top and down tubes bent/fractured downwards. Injuries, but thankfully non requiring 'blue lamps'. PM/email me if you need to report an accident, please.

Crikey!  Stay safe, folks!  :o

I believe this is the thread you're looking for, Tomsk — "Essex PBP Training" (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=87346.0) from four years ago; the first ride of the Horses for Courses perm.  I can never pass Tipper's Verge without a wry smile  ;D
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 10 March, 2019, 06:57:25 pm
https://www.fillthathole.org.uk might be useful.

It's Suffolk: big county, small budget.  Worth a try, tho.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: rob on 10 March, 2019, 07:11:49 pm
Location sounds about right.   There was a group of 4 looking at something broken when I passed.  Not much after that that I had my second visitation.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 10 March, 2019, 07:12:44 pm
I believe there is a statutory requirement to fill potholes above a particular size, once notified. The threshold size is defined by the county but recorded crashes should bump up the repair priority. If a pothole has been notified prior to crashes, I think the county has increased liability.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: wilkyboy on 10 March, 2019, 07:20:52 pm
I believe there is a statutory requirement to fill potholes above a particular size, once notified. The threshold size is defined by the county but recorded crashes should bump up the repair priority. If a pothole has been notified prior to crashes, I think the county has increased liability.

You are correct.  They may just spray paint around it and hope nobody else comes-a-cropper, though  ::-)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: tomj on 10 March, 2019, 08:17:13 pm
Struggling into the wind with a number of riders and stopped to change batteries on the Garmin, a short while later I turned a corner to see Peter lying muddied in the road with another rider. He looked shaken, with signs of grazing and bruising to the side of his face, not good.

Five or so minutes later with help he stood up and retrieved his bicycle, and attempted to sort out his brake shifter. Chatted with two other guys repairing punctures just up the road who had also ridden through the hole.

Peter by this stage had remounted his bike and appeared gingerly to be back on his way with two or three others.

Continued assuming all was well.

The water filled pothole was on the lefthand edge of the road, approximately four inches deep 20 or so yards from the cellphone mast

https://goo.gl/maps/xCvhYonzQ5x (https://goo.gl/maps/xCvhYonzQ5x)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 10 March, 2019, 08:38:03 pm
https://www.fillthathole.org.uk might be useful.

 :thumbsup: Has been commended to riders yesterday. I have used this with success, at least around home turf where I have kept an eye on the outcome regularly. At least one of yesterday's victims took photos of hole, damage etc and has the gps location.

... a short while later I turned a corner to see Peter lying muddied in the road with another rider. He looked shaken, with signs of grazing and bruising to the side of his face ...

Peter W made it back and seemed ok to drive, painkiller assisted. Later reported back from home after a no doubt painful clean-up ...

I believe this is the thread you're looking for, Tomsk — "Essex PBP Training" (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=87346.0) from four years ago; the first ride of the Horses for Courses perm.  I can never pass Tipper's Verge without a wry smile  ;D

Yes, the ride with icy road edges on the A/B road first section, a slight thaw then horizontal snow showers and the Russian tank outside the old Snetterton model shop looking appropriately 'Eastern Front'! Tipper's Verge is engraved in Audax Legend!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Alex B on 11 March, 2019, 08:28:09 am
Well, I've never been blown off the road before, so that was a new one: somewhere near Troston a mighty gust just cuffed me onto the verge. A passing motorist stopped to see if I was okay (young children in baby seats waving at me), but the only damage was to my dignity.

A pretty ride and lovely route - but the blowy conditions made the second half quite testing. Good PBP training as the forecast* is for a tropical storm then. Thanks to Tom and the ACME team for running another excellent event.

- Alex.

* In my head.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Chris S on 11 March, 2019, 12:14:16 pm
The most noticable after-effect of this ride has been wrist pain - presumably from the rictus grip I had on the tandem's bars as I wrestled it through the worst of the broadside gusts. That drag up past Cavenham was a soul-destroyer and no mistake.

No takers for the tandem tow in the last section; Tom's rides are all about the Essex chop, which makes riding with us pretty much untenable; you can get off and walk faster than we climb anything steeper than 8%.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Christophe on 12 March, 2019, 03:38:20 pm
Well, after checking out how little riding I've been doing because of real life, this was my first 200km+ since Hereward the Wake in July 2017! After a previous enjoyable experience on this ride thought it would be a gentle reintroduction to the world of audax. How wrong I was.
First half of the ride was a most enjoyable pootle after hooking up with Andy and Jan at the start, thinking to myself "yeah I've still got it!" About 15km out of Snetterton the wind whipped up and we were hit with a horizontal downpour. Crawled up to Snetterton from there and I had to walk the last 200 yards to the café as couldn't actually stay upright because of the wind.
A good refuel and sit down prepared me for what I remembered was a most pleasant push to Newmarket. On my way with Andy, Jan and joined by Deano44 we pressed on. What a slog! Taking it in turns at the front we battled on. I became more weary as the ride went on and was cut adrift to suffer on my own at the back. Had to stop for 'a moment' at one point to get my breath back shake my legs out, Andy informed me we were only half way to Newmarket. In the words of Bill Bryson "Are you shitting me!?!?!"
After an eternity we made it to Spoons in Newmarket and curry was consumed post haste before heading on. More of the same on the way back but the pace picked up a bit. Being the gentlemen they are the other 3 stopped a few times to wait for me on the last leg and am eternally grateful for being looked after. Made it back in 11.5 hours so not a bad start to my distance rebirth. Big thanks also to Andy who saved me from having to cycle the 25k home at the end as well. If it wasn't for him I may still be out there now.
The pain has subsided now and am ready to do it all again......
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 14 March, 2019, 08:28:20 pm
83 validated 200km brevets, 7 of which are helpers'. 9 DNFs. Uploaded to AUKweb, with brevets to go off for physical validation towards the end of the month.

Rob B's inner tube and prk receipt from Newmarket Halfords spoke volumes; some of you opted for a Wetherspoons feast, but a lot did the Shell/BP garage thing for a fast passage.

46 100km finishers, including 1 helper. 4 DNFs.

Well done to all finishers, commiserations to the DNFs and their various woes. Thanks again to all our helpers for stamping cards, feeding and caring for riders, and generally being excellent.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: rob on 14 March, 2019, 08:51:43 pm
Rob B's inner tube and prk receipt from Newmarket Halfords spoke volumes.

Bloke said ‘are you having a nice day ?’ - I showed him my filthy hands and gave him a withering look.   He then asked if he could e-mail me the receipt.   At which point I remembered that I needed a Newmarket receipt.   Could have been a mistake.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 15 March, 2019, 08:06:09 am
Thanks Tomsk it was a lovely ride (or would have been without the weather) I may try it again in more benign weather.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 9th March 2019
Post by: Tomsk on 17 December, 2019, 04:43:07 pm
Horses For Courses 200km [Permanent version of The Horsepower] ridden last Saturday - sampled the sparkling new services on the A11 slip road at Snetterton, includes a Greggs, McDonalds, Starbucks and a Spar shop; I got my final free loyalty McD's coffee of the year. :thumbsup: Routesheet on AUKweb updated with the Snetterton control information.

Still the Pothole Capital of East Anglia, and a Neolithic flint arrowhead got through my Durano Pluses - the first in three winters!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km Saturday 14th March 2020
Post by: Tomsk on 26 January, 2020, 08:00:01 pm
This year's Horsepower Audaxes have small changes to the start times: 07:00 for the 200km, 09:00 for the 100km.

I've been putting on events in the two venues at St Mary's for ten years now (!) This year the church is raising money for some new chairs, to replace some pews and I'd like to help out. By offering more food to riders, for a small donation and topping-up from any surplus event funds, we will be able to help with this project. Catering has been fairly basic up to now, with the limited space in St Mary's Centre, but if we have the use of the church itself (the chairs are intended for more flexible community use of the building), then we have a whole load more possibilities for TLC.

I'm thinking along the lines of hot food for breakfast: bacon/egg rolls, porridge, toast, as well as the usual pastries and cereal bars. The food at the arrivee, usually soup and rolls, will be much the same, but I'm still working on the details with the church catering commitee.

I've put a basic outline plan on the AUKweb info document for the two events, with more to come in the next few weeks.

By the way, the Helpers' Ride will be on Saturday 7th March. Not a track day, unlike 14th, so as the circuit will be shut that day, it'll be a trip to the sparkling new services on the A11!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: jiberjaber on 27 January, 2020, 09:35:48 am
I'm pondering the helpers ride, but undecided on the 200 or 100 as I want to ride it fixed and I we always seem to have a mega headwind on the helpers ride as a sacrifice for the main event... will have a think about it closer to the date, it's a few weeks away now so still time to get my head around my first 200km on fixed!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Deano4 on 27 January, 2020, 10:17:26 am
Happy to help out on the 200km and on the day.  :)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: psyclist on 27 January, 2020, 12:17:23 pm
... still time to get my head around my first 200km on fixed!

and hit a significant Eddington milestone distance
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: BFC on 27 January, 2020, 12:45:02 pm
I've already signed up for the 200K helpers ride on the 7th at 07:00 - probably on the fixed unless the weather is a lot better and the roads have cleaned up a lot.

And scheduled for helping out on the day in the tin box - car park duties at start, relocating to Snetterton for card stamping and water duties.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: jiberjaber on 27 January, 2020, 12:55:11 pm
... still time to get my head around my first 200km on fixed!

and hit a significant Eddington milestone distance

Yep - still trying to avoid that :)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 27 January, 2020, 07:23:35 pm
 :thumbsup: Thanks folks!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Phil W on 27 January, 2020, 08:17:22 pm
I'm pondering the helpers ride, but undecided on the 200 or 100 as I want to ride it fixed and I we always seem to have a mega headwind on the helpers ride as a sacrifice for the main event... will have a think about it closer to the date, it's a few weeks away now so still time to get my head around my first 200km on fixed!

Aren’t you retired from 200s?
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: jiberjaber on 27 January, 2020, 08:25:45 pm
I'm pondering the helpers ride, but undecided on the 200 or 100 as I want to ride it fixed and I we always seem to have a mega headwind on the helpers ride as a sacrifice for the main event... will have a think about it closer to the date, it's a few weeks away now so still time to get my head around my first 200km on fixed!

Aren’t you retired from 200s?
Up to 200....
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: rob on 28 January, 2020, 09:12:09 am
Back for another go.   Probably on gears this time round.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Phil W on 28 January, 2020, 01:21:33 pm
I'm on the 200.  Done the 100 a couple of times. Once on the helpers ride with Tomsk and Richard Ellis, and once on main event since.  Never been to Snetterton so that'll be something different.  Should be my fourth 200 of this season hopefully.  I'm not doing RRTY but I am at the start of a streak (two in a row, wow) at the moment. :facepalm:

Will be on (not so) new recumbent with it's more robust tyres fitted for winter at the moment.  Lanes are super skoggy this winter and I'd rather not fix P***s this time of year.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: arabella on 03 February, 2020, 08:51:57 pm
I've signed up.  I need to book my place on the pyjama express.  It's possible I may have a (gulp) motor vehicle with me (anyone want a one-way lift from Ips or towards Pbo?) so I go on to collect the little dear from uni as it's in the same direction.  But I haven't entirely convinced myself I want to drive though I'm tempted logistically since I'll be going more or less that way anyway.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 23 February, 2020, 03:37:01 pm
Re: Horsepower 200km Helpers' ride on 7th March - any requests for a different to start time?

07:00 as per the calendar ride is ok by me, but 8 or even 9 is ok [though more night riding in the latter stages would inevitably occur]. We're likely to ride as a club-run full-value kind of thing; if previous form is anything to go by it will feature a cafe stop in Lavenham, McDonalds at Snetterton for lunch and apple crumble at Newmarket Wetherspoons. We may well end up at the Angel and Harp in Churchend ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: drossall on 23 February, 2020, 06:19:09 pm
Entered the 100.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: rob on 24 February, 2020, 10:41:35 am
Did the 200 always start at 7am ?   I don't recall getting up that early.

We're making a weekend of it so I will be riding over from Birchanger way.   I might arrive just as everyone goes off.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: peter simplex on 24 February, 2020, 11:21:01 am
No, it was 7.30.    The only quick way to get to Stortford from London in time for a ride over to Dunmow is the  5.29 ex-Stratford.  Perhaps if the housing development around Dunmow gathers pace  ::-), the old railway line to might be relaid   :)  The Stansted Express, which does stop at Stortford bans unfolded bikes  ???
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Redlight on 24 February, 2020, 11:24:40 am
The Stansted Express, which does stop at Stortford bans unfolded bikes  ???

I wouldn't want to rely on it, but I have taken my bike on the Stansted Express to the airport, to ride on to Dunmow, several times.  I think they tend to turn a blind eye if the train's not too busy.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: rob on 24 February, 2020, 11:34:04 am
No, it was 7.30.    The only quick way to get to Stortford from London in time for a ride over to Dunmow is the  5.29 ex-Stratford.  Perhaps if the housing development around Dunmow gathers pace  ::-), the old railway line to might be relaid   :)  The Stansted Express, which does stop at Stortford bans unfolded bikes  ???

It's alright, I'm coming up the previous evening and also staying Saturday night.   Just means an early alarm at the hotel on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: GavinC on 26 February, 2020, 01:11:41 pm
I wouldn't want to rely on it, but I have taken my bike on the Stansted Express to the airport, to ride on to Dunmow, several times.  I think they tend to turn a blind eye if the train's not too busy.
That's been my experience too.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: bhoot on 26 February, 2020, 01:19:29 pm
Based on plenty of trips via Bishops Storford - never any problem southbound, just get on first London train whatever it is. Northbound they can stop you at Liverpool Street, although we have done it early in the morning without any problem.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: psyclist on 26 February, 2020, 02:06:23 pm
No, it was 7.30.    The only quick way to get to Stortford from London in time for a ride over to Dunmow is the  5.29 ex-Stratford. 

Or from Liverpool Street, the 5:10, 5:25 or even the 5:40.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: peter simplex on 26 February, 2020, 05:22:36 pm


Or from Liverpool Street, the 5:10, 5:25 or even the 5:40.

Er, those are Stansted Express services, hence my original enquiry...   but bhoot thinks it's doable despite the cycle ban.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 26 February, 2020, 05:40:21 pm
If you miss your train or have jobsworth interference on the Stansted Express, just let me know you're running late and you can have your card marked with a later start time. You've got all day.  :thumbsup:

The way the wind has been this winter you'll probably have a tailwind from Stortford/Stansted Airport, but, oh no, a headwind all the way back from Snetterton ...

Don't forget we have floor space for about 12 in St Mary's Centre, for a pyjama party. If there's a massive demand I can get the use of St Mary's Room across the road by the pub.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Deano4 on 02 March, 2020, 06:57:09 pm
Re: Horsepower 200km Helpers' ride on 7th March - any requests for a different to start time?

07:00 as per the calendar ride is ok by me, but 8 or even 9 is ok [though more night riding in the latter stages would inevitably occur]. We're likely to ride as a club-run full-value kind of thing; if previous form is anything to go by it will feature a cafe stop in Lavenham, McDonalds at Snetterton for lunch and apple crumble at Newmarket Wetherspoons. We may well end up at the Angel and Harp in Churchend ...

Back to the helpers ride, I’m ok with a 7am start, but am flexible if others fancy a later one.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 02 March, 2020, 07:17:35 pm
Back to the helpers ride, I’m ok with a 7am start, but am flexible if others fancy a later one.

We're all ok with 07:00 - it'll be you, me, tippers, Grey Sheep and BFC - any other takers?

I checked out the 100km route yesterday morning, all ok, but the Newmarket level crossing on the final 200km stage is scheduled for closure this coming weekend so we may need a slight diversion, depending on how closed the road/crossing actually is. Shoudn't add too much to double back to the Cambridge road and take the next left to get us back on track.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: the straggler on 02 March, 2020, 09:13:18 pm
I'm interested in tagging along from Lavenham to Snetterton, but with an intention to retrace straight back home again. I need this training prior to next weekend calender event.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 03 March, 2020, 07:41:03 am
I'm interested in tagging along from Lavenham to Snetterton, but with an intention to retrace straight back home again. I need this training prior to next weekend calender event.

Ok, with an 07:00 start, we'll aim to be at "Chili & Chives", Lavenham between 09:30 & 10:00.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: BFC on 05 March, 2020, 12:14:23 pm
Back to the helpers ride, I’m ok with a 7am start, but am flexible if others fancy a later one.

We're all ok with 07:00 - it'll be you, me, tippers, Grey Sheep and BFC - any other takers?

I checked out the 100km route yesterday morning, all ok, but the Newmarket level crossing on the final 200km stage is scheduled for closure this coming weekend so we may need a slight diversion, depending on how closed the road/crossing actually is. Shoudn't add too much to double back to the Cambridge road and take the next left to get us back on track.

I have assumed we are gathering at Tomsk Towers for a 07:00 kick off this Saturday for the helpers ride. I will review weather forecast nearer the time before deciding between driving or riding over to Dunmow!

For the calendar event I will be driving to Dunmow to assist at the start, then heading off to Snetterton with the control paraphernalia - and disappearing into deepest darkest Norfolk after closing the control... I do not plan to return to the arrivee at Dunmow (the same plan as last year but the pothole of doom caused a major change).
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 05 March, 2020, 04:04:51 pm
07:00 start for the Helpers' Ride, get here early if you want a cuppa, toast etc - meeting The Straggler at Chili & Chives, Lavenham, 09:30 - 10:00. Actual Helpers [as opposed to just-along-for-company - nice as that is too] get treated to all food & drink along the way.

The old start time of 07:30 [2015 - 2019] was changed to 07:00 to give a longer break between the 200 & 100km starts. Also to get a bit more daylight riding time - lots of full value riders faced the final, often slow, headwindy, laney 50km in the dark from Newmarket: helpers then fed and watered them, while attempting to clear up and we were lucky to get finished by 22:00. Then there was all the stuff to be unloaded back home and sorted out.

If early trains are an issue, don't forget the Friday Night Pyjama Party.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 08 March, 2020, 05:02:10 pm
Revised 200km routesheet and information now on AUKweb, following yesterday's Helpers' Ride and route check.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Sebo on 09 March, 2020, 09:24:28 am
Looking forward to this! 
My first Audax of this year and a few cobwebs to blow out. 
Having taken up Audax as a replacement for motorbike trackdays, this is somewhat of a bitter-sweet Audax as Snetterton was my most frequent outing.  It'll be nice to see the friendly folks in the cafe though and eat some of their excellent stodge (without the ruinous outpouring of cash on motorbike tyres..)  ::-)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: rob on 09 March, 2020, 01:01:05 pm
Well, what do you know.....strong SWly forecast for Saturday.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: drossall on 09 March, 2020, 08:11:19 pm
Unfortunately I'm going to have to drop out of the 100km  :( My son's house move has finally come through, and it's all hands on deck.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 10 March, 2020, 08:27:14 am
Well, what do you know.....strong SWly forecast for Saturday.

Indeed, the typical March scenario - allow 50% longer for the return 100km and have a major re-fuelling at Snetterton and in Newmarket. We went to McDonalds at the A11 services, then 'spoons apple crumble and icecream last week. I think only a NW wind is worse: cross/headwind to Snetterton, pretty much full on against you on the most exposed sections to Newmarket, then too knackered to enjoy the tailwind home! When we had this scenario in the past it included sleet showers in the mix too - at least things are relatively mild currently ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: rob on 10 March, 2020, 08:58:33 am
Well, what do you know.....strong SWly forecast for Saturday.

Indeed, the typical March scenario - allow 50% longer for the return 100km and have a major re-fuelling at Snetterton and in Newmarket. We went to McDonalds at the A11 services, then 'spoons apple crumble and icecream last week. I think only a NW wind is worse: cross/headwind to Snetterton, pretty much full on against you on the most exposed sections to Newmarket, then too knackered to enjoy the tailwind home! When we had this scenario in the past it included sleet showers in the mix too - at least things are relatively mild currently ...

Looking at last year it took me 3.5hrs out and 5.5hrs back.   That included punctures both ways.

Family are seeing the outlaws not far from Snetterton at lunchtime.   I could always bail and get a lift back.   Not really me though.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Phil W on 10 March, 2020, 06:13:36 pm
Wind looks quite tame compared to Storm Dennis.  Looking forward to this as this will be first time I’ve ridden the 200. Worst bit will be getting up early to head over to the start.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Alex B on 10 March, 2020, 06:26:45 pm
Wind looks quite tame compared to Storm Dennis.

The weather looks quite benign compared to last year where, on the 200, I was literally blown off the road.

I shall be ECE'ing the 100 this year. It will be my first brevet since PBP ...

- Alex.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: psyclist on 10 March, 2020, 09:27:14 pm
I've entered a rather loopy ECE, 60% of which will be after the 200 so that I don't have to wake up too early. I'm looking forward to the hot breakfast options.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: josser on 10 March, 2020, 09:47:00 pm
I’m doing the 100 as I did the 200 twice last year, including smashing into the pot hole of certain doom on the perm version...

Probably going to go a little off piste to hit a couple of squares. I’ll get there relatively early to help with breakfast, especially the eating part. And The Dutch Wife may also make an appearance!
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 11 March, 2020, 09:24:07 pm
I’m doing the 100 as I did the 200 twice last year, including smashing into the pot hole of certain doom on the perm version...

Probably going to go a little off piste to hit a couple of squares. I’ll get there relatively early to help with breakfast, especially the eating part. And The Dutch Wife may also make an appearance!

 :thumbsup:

Numbers are about normal for the event at this stage: 75 for the 200km and 35 for the 100. Probably some more entries to come, and typically around 25% DNS with the relatively benign forecast [so far = dry, breezy, cool]. Chili and Chives in Lavenham are aware riders are coming, as they are our fave cafe [lots of alternatives, from the very posh Swan Hotel, to a bag of donuts from the Co-op], as is Gary the Chef at Tyrrell's Restaurant. I really hope the custard tanker has arrived at the Newmarket Black Lion in time - we had to make do with icecream on the apple crumble ... it just doesn't have the same headwind-battling power.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 13 March, 2020, 10:39:30 am
All set for tomorrow, just another big shopping trip to do this morning.  :thumbsup:

Bring your own hand-sanitiser [you do routinely carry this? - I do!] as the shops here are sold out. Soap and water will be available at the start though, and disposeable paper towels, tissues etc. I will be sending riders out in dribs and drabs, not in a huge peloton.

Snot-rocketeers keep well clear of the group, and launch downwind!

Anyone reluctant to ride can contact me for a permanent 'Horses for Courses' 200km brevet FOC, same route but half-way control at the A11 services - McD's, Greggs, Starbucks. My only 100km perm. is 'Boudicca's Revenge', but you're welcome to one of these instead.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: cygnet on 14 March, 2020, 06:17:08 pm
Thanks Tom!

I must admit if I'd been at home last night instead of in the church hall I probably would have been a DNS, it was quite soggy out to Snetterton.

As a Public Service Announcement for any Londoners getting the train, Stansted Express now takes bikes!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: psyclist on 14 March, 2020, 07:57:51 pm
As a Public Service Announcement for any Londoners getting the train, Stansted Express now takes bikes!  :thumbsup:

That’s good news. Where are you getting it from, I can only find the old policy, which was folding bikes only?
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: cygnet on 14 March, 2020, 08:09:18 pm
Unless they mislabeled it ??? I was sitting on one with my bike in the bike space when I posted that.
Edit
I just checked the Stansted express website timetable and that service is listed.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: psyclist on 14 March, 2020, 09:41:39 pm
Unless they mislabeled it ??? I was sitting on one with my bike in the bike space when I posted that.
Edit
I just checked the Stansted express website timetable and that service is listed.

I hope that you are right, as it’ll make it easier to get a bike on board at Liverpool Street. Other stops were not really an issue.

On the Stansted Express website, their policy is still defined as follows:

Quote
Taking your bike on the train
We only allow fully folded bicycles on Stansted Express services.

 https://www.stanstedexpress.com/onboard/cycle-carriage-policy/ (https://www.stanstedexpress.com/onboard/cycle-carriage-policy/)
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Phil W on 15 March, 2020, 10:25:18 am
Thanks Tom I enjoyed that. I hadn’t ridden the 200 before so many new lanes further east.. I think my favourite section was Lavenham to Snetterton.  It just seemed to flow and even the rain didn’t put a damper on it. A ride of two halves for me.  I kept up a good pace to Snetterton then took it easy riding back with my HR below 120 bpm. Caught Arabella on the alternate route from Wrest Wrattling.  We rode together to the finish, it was nice to have a chat towards the end, at an easy pace.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 15 March, 2020, 04:36:37 pm
Thanks to all the ACME and St Mary's Church helpers yesterday. That was a long day though: up at 04:30, getting the first batch of breakfast bacon on the go shortly after, the morning rush, short break for more shopping, soup-making, then the long and sociable afternoon and evening. A handful of DNFs, mostly mechanical, with just the one 'off', fortunately minor though the rider concerned packed. A couple of 100km riders vanished off the radar - I hope they're ok, but I do wish they wouldn't do that ... Finally all cleared up by 21:30.

I've yet to tot up donations and work out the surplus from the event fees, but it looks to be in the several of £hundreds towards the new chairs, so also thanks to riders for your generousity. I'll be emailing with the details when known. A good turn-out, despite the C-19 situation and slightly iffy morning's weather. 62 starters out of 89 entries on the 200km [including 5 on the Helpers' Ride last weekend] and 40 out of 50 on the 100km.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: psyclist on 15 March, 2020, 04:49:38 pm
It was another superb day out. Thanks Tomsk and the merry band of helpers who make this such an enjoyable event each year.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: rob on 15 March, 2020, 08:48:28 pm
I was properly soaked on the 10 mile ride over from my hotel.  In a week that had been pretty miserable it didn’t help my mood.  I lingered at the start for a while but then pushed on into the wet on my own, jumping between groups and catching up with lots of people.

I bumped into Cygnet at Lavenham and we rode together all the way to Snetterton where it finally dried up.  I decided to have a slightly longer break there as I wasn’t in much of a rush.  I solo’d into Newmarket for a quick cashpoint receipt and rode straight through to the finish.  I was glad I carried spare gloves and overshoes.  Another week where I have to clean the bike up mid-week.

A slightly different experience on gears and I still keep forgetting I can shift.

Thanks to Tomsk and team.  The new finish area was great and the food welcoming.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: arabella on 15 March, 2020, 09:34:37 pm
Lovely day out, I liked most of the 2 loops to and from Snetterton.  Lots of familiar bits joined together in a different way, with some new bits thrown in for good measure.  I ambled round in my usual 3 hours/50km listening to tweeting birds cheering me on, loads of what I think were partridges.  I got a flat somewhere near Gasthorpe, I think it was, with a handy layby and warm sunshine at the time, so not a chore to sort it out (& lots of helpful "are you OK"-s).  Plus I broke out the jellybabies haribo tropifruit (though they are hard to find now, don't know why) to keep me going.  Nice to have Phil's company for the last part, made it go quicker.
Was that you Rob, I got thrown by mention of Bishops Stortford?
& hello Andy, would have been nice to catch up if we'd conincided better.
Not having entered anything else yet I'll be keeping an eye on the news. 
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: rob on 15 March, 2020, 09:45:54 pm
Yes, that was me.  I do look a little different these days.

I was staying overnight in Bishops Stortford for overly complicated reasons.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: arabella on 15 March, 2020, 10:04:35 pm
I just look older, you look leaner and not-meaner but ykwim.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: GavinC on 15 March, 2020, 10:16:39 pm
I had to bail early as I got a call from my wife at 10.30 to say she’d had to call an ambulance for my 90 y/o mum who was having chest pains. Luckily I wasn’t too far from Thurston so I jumped on the train there. Fortunately my mum is fine, and packing the ride wasn’t too painful given the fact that I was soaked and freezing having expected light, scattered showers rather than constant, sometimes heavy rain that we had. Rookie mistake not being more prepared   :-[  I’ll be sticking a perm entry in and giving the ride another go soon though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 01 February, 2021, 05:45:44 pm
As you will all be aware, The Horsepower 100 & 200 on 13th March 2021 are currently suspended, pending 'developments'. If calendar Audax events are possible by then it will still be an x-rated event as billed, starting from The Dourdan Pavilion car park, probably, though the church car park should also be available. The Pavilion toilets might have been fixed by then (recently vandalised ::-)).

Subject to the state of restrictions, I'll be emailing riders a week or so beforehand with more details. Refunds for those unable to take part will be available on request ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Lightning Phil on 01 February, 2021, 06:04:53 pm
My last calendar ride before lockdown 1. Be funny, if possible to make it my first post lockdown 3 calendar ride.  Take it you’ll be keeping entries open right up to a week before or so?

In fact, this was my last calendar ride.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 02 February, 2021, 05:23:06 pm
I'll probably keep entries open up to the day before, but not 'on-the-line', depending on when entries are allowed and the general situation. Limit of 50 entries, with only a handful on the start sheet at present from before the current lockdown.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: drossall on 02 February, 2021, 05:40:05 pm
My last calendar ride before lockdown 1. Be funny, if possible to make it my first post lockdown 3 calendar ride.  Take it you’ll be keeping entries open right up to a week before or so?

In fact, this was my last calendar ride.
+1
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Sebo on 04 February, 2021, 12:59:36 pm
The 200km was my last Audax before lockdown.  Unfortunately I DNF'd due to a broken wheel on the way out of Dunmow!
Tom, could I enter the 100km for this year (should it go ahead) please?
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 04 February, 2021, 03:33:28 pm
The 200km was my last Audax before lockdown.  Unfortunately I DNF'd due to a broken wheel on the way out of Dunmow!
Tom, could I enter the 100km for this year (should it go ahead) please?

The Powers That Be will open up online entries as and when conditions allow ...
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Lightning Phil on 04 February, 2021, 05:32:01 pm
I’ll probably opt for the 100 plus ECE if they get to run, and we are allowed out of Hertfordshire. I too rode the 200 last year.
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Sebo on 04 February, 2021, 08:11:36 pm
The 200km was my last Audax before lockdown.  Unfortunately I DNF'd due to a broken wheel on the way out of Dunmow!
Tom, could I enter the 100km for this year (should it go ahead) please?

The Powers That Be will open up online entries as and when conditions allow ...
Understood, thanks Tom
Title: Re: The Horsepower 200 & 100km
Post by: Tomsk on 23 February, 2021, 07:55:46 pm
Won't be happening this March I'm sorry to say. Refunds will go out soon. With luck and a following wind, Horses For Courses 200km permanent will be ok under 'Rule of Six' from 29th March though and the next ACME calendar ride will be The Woodman/Daughter 100/50km on 17th April.