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Random Musings => DIY => Skip Bike and Bodge It => Topic started by: Somnolent on 05 April, 2014, 10:32:35 pm

Title: Alternative Q/R mounting for Carradice saddlebags.
Post by: Somnolent on 05 April, 2014, 10:32:35 pm
This thread https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=80698.0, and particularly the photos of Phil W's Bridge Street bags reminded me of a project which I had delayed until the availability of a "roundtuit".

For reasons which are not relevant here my store of "bits" contained a number of these:
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/porkypete58/IMG_20140312_111732927_HDR1_zps471956c8.jpg)

which are designed to attach a basket to one of these rather excellent quick release handlebar bar bag mounts from Rixen & Kaul.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41uYytmwPBL._SS300_.jpg)

Rixen & Kaul also make the same style of mounting to fit on a seat post.
If you have a redundant handlebar bag mount you can use one of these
(http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/small/20651.jpg)

but I found a complete one at Amazon:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/416ekX1OPqL._SS300_.jpg)

Other ingredients:
In this case a rather tatty old Nelson
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/porkypete58/IMG_20140312_111921632_HDR1_zps80acd4d2.jpg)

And now - the "bodge" component, which IMHO entitles inclusion in this board.
You are looking for a piece of plastic with a right angle in it, and as close to the internal width of the bag as you can get.
Something like a broken tupperware container, a plastic biscuit box, - the one I used on my Barley is from a
(http://img.tesco.com/Groceries/pi/495%5C5410076706495%5CIDShot_225x225.jpg)

For the Nelson I used a piece cut out from two sides of knackered old swing-bin which is a pretty heavy duty and quite possibly overkill.
Here it is, cut to size and drilled using the backplate of the KlickFix adapter as a template.
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/porkypete58/IMG_20140312_111810915_HDR1_zps91d1221b.jpg)

Now remove the dowel from the bag, and drill holese in the bag too.
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/porkypete58/IMG_20140312_111951220_HDR1_zps38900ef1.jpg)

Although the bolts supplied with the adapter plate are M5, I'd suggest drilling 8mm hole - much easier to get everything lined up that way.

and finally re-assemble with your plastic re-inforcement between dowel & bag.  It may be necessary to drill some pilot holes in the re-inforcement to take the dowel screws.
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/porkypete58/IMG_20140312_115732724_HDR_zps801f9ee5.jpg)


As I showed on another thread, with a well-packed bag there is absolutely no "sag" at all:
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/porkypete58/IMG_20140312_113922279_HDR1_zps11777094.jpg)
although, as you can see, it does require more than a couple of inches of seatpost out against which to cantilever the bracket, which although unobtrusive when a bag is in place is fugli with no bag.

I've now tested the Barley version on a 300km - and can report nothing untoward, apart from the mysterious loss of dowel screw with doesn't matter hugely. 

Executive Summary:
Carradice quick on / quick off, no fiddly straps, no ugly struts, and just a little lighter than a Bagman.   





Title: Re: Alternative Q/R mounting for Carradice saddlebags.
Post by: Dibdib on 05 April, 2014, 10:40:25 pm
That looks really smart IMO. If it didn't involve taking a drill to my (not-a-tatty-old) Carradice I'd be tempted to do the same.
Title: Re: Alternative Q/R mounting for Carradice saddlebags.
Post by: Somnolent on 05 April, 2014, 10:54:21 pm
That looks really smart IMO. If it didn't involve taking a drill to my (not-a-tatty-old) Carradice I'd be tempted to do the same.

I must admit to having second thoughts about doing that on a new(ish) Barley.
However... I reasoned that the mounting plate would
a) cover up all evidence of my vandalism
b) not affect waterproofness
c) not affect the traditional attachment methods if I left it in place after deciding the experiment was a failure.
Title: Re: Alternative Q/R mounting for Carradice saddlebags.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 April, 2014, 01:27:22 pm
Thanks for putting up this thread (and the link to it from the other one). I now think I'm pretty happy with my Barley as it is, having replaced the leather straps with less saggy, tighter toe straps - but when it's old and tatty, or if I do decide I want it easily removable, I hope I'll remember this.