Author Topic: Southend Cycle Town - part 2 (Read 243723 times)

2_Flat_Erics · « **Reply #1100 on:** 28 March, 2012, 05:43:27 pm »

I got painfully caught out by this piece of classic SBC junction design....

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/BjhNB-t7WY0&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/BjhNB-t7WY0&rel=1</a>

Junction of Kenilworth Gardens and Eastwood Boulevard.

The secondary kerb is completely invisible as I approached the corner and by the time it was clear that the apex of the kerb was right on my choosen line round the corner it was to late and I was on the deck.

The secondary kerb is no obstacle to cars but is down right dangerous for cyclists.

This little episode cost me 3 hours in A&E and 6 stitches.

AndyK · « **Reply #1101 on:** 28 March, 2012, 05:51:32 pm »

Nasty. That's a claim for damages if ever I saw one. What a f**king stupid place to put a secondary kerb!

delthebike · « **Reply #1102 on:** 28 March, 2012, 05:53:54 pm »

GWS 2FE.

I don't get the secondary kerb bit? Is the red section supposed to be for bikes?

Wowbagger · « **Reply #1103 on:** 28 March, 2012, 06:04:55 pm »

Very nasty. GWS!

Put in a claim.

AndyK · « **Reply #1104 on:** 28 March, 2012, 06:14:49 pm »

Yes, get well soon.

2_Flat_Erics · « **Reply #1105 on:** 28 March, 2012, 06:28:22 pm »

Quote from: delthebike on 28 March, 2012, 05:53:54 pm

GWS 2FE.

I don't get the secondary kerb bit? Is the red section supposed to be for bikes?

If I was a cynic I would say that the red bit was designed specifically to take out bikes.

Seriously... I can't see any reason at all for this design either. It does not force anyone apart from cyclists to change their path through the corner. Any car taking the same path I was would simply ride over the kerb and barely notice it. Anyone coming from the other direction would be no where near the kerb.

It may originally have been planned as extra protection for peds waiting to cross but then the whole corner is protected by railings. The railings themselves are now part of the problem for road users as they obstruct visibility of the secondary kerb and in the mornings the shadow of the railings hides the second kerb perfectly.

2_Flat_Erics · « **Reply #1106 on:** 28 March, 2012, 06:32:20 pm »

Quote from: AndyK on 28 March, 2012, 05:51:32 pm

Nasty. That's a claim for damages if ever I saw one. What a f**king stupid place to put a secondary kerb!

Quote from: Wowbagger on 28 March, 2012, 06:04:55 pm

Very nasty. GWS!

Put in a claim.

Already spoken to CTC. Currently waiting for forms.

AndyK · « **Reply #1107 on:** 28 March, 2012, 06:36:22 pm »

The design might have something to do with Eastwood Blvd being a 20mph zone as it borders Westcliff High School for Boys. Maybe this is supposed to be some kind of traffic calming device. I didn't even notice it was there last night when I drove through.

simonp · « **Reply #1108 on:** 28 March, 2012, 06:56:20 pm »

This kind of thing is a trap set to catch out the unwary. Here's another:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Cherry+Hinton,+Cambridge,+UK&hl=en&ll=52.188779,0.175663&spn=0.005229,0.01163&oq=cherry&hnear=Cherry+Hinton,+Cambridgeshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=52.188706,0.175591&panoid=WJ4DI6Ty3wmk67VL5vwt5Q&cbp=12,34.29,,0,9.73

I nearly hit that raised kerb whilst trying to follow the tyre tracks of a snow plough which had just gone up the high street. It is invisible under snow and would have had me off, snow tyres or not, if I had actually hit it.

Shrimp_Stu · « **Reply #1109 on:** 28 March, 2012, 09:49:47 pm »

Contact SBC as well and get a claim form from them as well....I had an incident on the seafront 3 weeks ago and will be sending off my claim to them tomorrow.....

I normally go up that road at the side of WHSB to turn right onto Kenilworth Gardens down to the Hospital to get out to Rochford via Hobleythick, and from your camera and pictures it is another "hidden" roadside feature....

Wendy · « **Reply #1110 on:** 29 March, 2012, 08:24:48 am »

Ouch!! Hope you get well soon.

p.s. did the small ask if you could do that again?

nuttycyclist · « **Reply #1111 on:** 29 March, 2012, 02:31:55 pm »

Ouch 2FE - plz to get well soon.

What is it with Southend? I thought they spent* 3 years as a cycle town and were supposed to be cycle friendly? They seem to be continuing the cycle traps and lethal designs that they have had the mindset of for years now.

* I say spent, as opposed to being a cycle town now, as a letter I had from the Council last year clearly stated that the cycle town funding was a three year project which had now completed.

nuttycyclist · « **Reply #1112 on:** 29 March, 2012, 02:32:41 pm »

Quote from: simonp on 28 March, 2012, 06:56:20 pm

This kind of thing is a trap set to catch out the unwary. Here's another:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Cherry+Hinton,+Cambridge,+UK&hl=en&ll=52.188779,0.175663&spn=0.005229,0.01163&oq=cherry&hnear=Cherry+Hinton,+Cambridgeshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=52.188706,0.175591&panoid=WJ4DI6Ty3wmk67VL5vwt5Q&cbp=12,34.29,,0,9.73

I nearly hit that raised kerb whilst trying to follow the tyre tracks of a snow plough which had just gone up the high street. It is invisible under snow and would have had me off, snow tyres or not, if I had actually hit it.

Nice to see that the cycle bypass there is too narrow to even fit the cycle logo in

delthebike · « **Reply #1113 on:** 29 March, 2012, 02:57:54 pm »

Quote from: nuttycyclist on 29 March, 2012, 02:31:55 pm

* I say spent, as opposed to being a cycle town now, as a letter I had from the Council last year clearly stated that the cycle town funding was a three year project which had now completed.

Now it makes sense!
SBC have won £1.6 million for buses. That'll mean the end of the Western Esplanade bike path as it's replaced by a bus lane.

FatBloke · « **Reply #1114 on:** 22 May, 2012, 09:02:17 pm »

Any update on this?

delthebike · « **Reply #1115 on:** 23 May, 2012, 02:02:10 pm »

Can't help FB with his 2FE enquiry but I have news of the Prittlebrook Greenway.

You can now travel on it from Victoria Avenue to Pavillion Drive, past the schools on Manchester Drive.

2_Flat_Erics · « **Reply #1116 on:** 24 May, 2012, 10:02:09 pm »

Quote from: FatBloke on 22 May, 2012, 09:02:17 pm

Any update on this?

SBC haven't accepted or denied liability yet. They still have another month or so before they have to respond to the claim.

Quote from: delthebike on 23 May, 2012, 02:02:10 pm

Can't help FB with his 2FE enquiry but I have news of the Prittlebrook Greenway.

You can now travel on it from Victoria Avenue to Pavillion Drive, past the schools on Manchester Drive.

I thought things had changed a bit on the stretch up to the old Albony Laundry. I don't often cycle along there and don't carry on beyond Manchester Drive. It was just tarmac on the section I rode. Wonder if they are going to leave it as tarmac or if they will but the loose stones on top like they have on the original sections.

delthebike · « **Reply #1117 on:** 30 May, 2012, 08:05:52 am »

Sutton Road re working has gone well!
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/local_news/southend/9733152.Teenager_knocked_off_bicycle_in_Southend/?ref=ec

The boy is okay and his Mum has commented on the page.

AndyK · « **Reply #1118 on:** 31 May, 2012, 12:14:40 pm »

20mph zone may be extended to Genting's Casino. I predict much wailing and gnashing of teeth in the comments.

delthebike · « **Reply #1119 on:** 05 June, 2012, 12:16:30 pm »

No comments as yet but we can guess what they'll be.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/9743835.Cyclists_to_be_fined_in_pedestrian_area/

AndyK · « **Reply #1120 on:** 09 June, 2012, 01:55:03 pm »

The offset barrier between Shoebury Eastbeach and the path around the Garrison has been removed. No idea why, glad it's gone though:

delthebike · « **Reply #1121 on:** 18 June, 2012, 05:34:19 pm »

Quote from: delthebike on 23 May, 2012, 02:02:10 pm

You can now travel on it from Victoria Avenue to Pavillion Drive, past the schools on Manchester Drive.

Now being extended Pavillion Drive to Cricketfield Grove. If it continues after that it'll cross Manchester Drive and go by the Man. Drv. allotments. The pea gravel is still to be put down from Southbourne Grove westwards.

Shrimp_Stu · « **Reply #1122 on:** 19 June, 2012, 11:51:03 am »

Quote from: AndyK on 09 June, 2012, 01:55:03 pm

The offset barrier between Shoebury Eastbeach and the path around the Garrison has been removed. No idea why, glad it's gone though:

I was there this morning and it was back

David Martin · « **Reply #1123 on:** 19 June, 2012, 07:51:25 pm »

Has nobody told them that black is a really bad colour for a barrier, is excusionary and dangerous to the partially sighted using the trail at night (who would expect such a feature to follow guidelines and be fited with reflectives and painted in contrasting colours to make it visible).

AndyK · « **Reply #1124 on:** 27 June, 2012, 06:51:43 pm »

Hit-and-run on cyclist in Southend:

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/local_news/southend/9782321.Cyclist_s_shock_at_Southend_hit_and_run_crash/