ALPI 4000

[veloboy]

Yesterday when I pre-registered, slightly less than 24 hours ago I was no 224

[Zed43]

Did you get any confirmation besides the one from Paypal? Because I didn't and think this is rather unusual.

[Pete Mas]

Did you get any confirmation besides the one from Paypal? Because I didn't and think this is rather unusual.

Yes I got an email  to info@alpi4000.it  and cc myself Pre-Accreditation received. Congratulations your pre-accreditation has been successfully received. It was  followed by my name and Country.

Maybe you did a typo in your email address?

[billyam998]

either the site has crashed or, they have closed registrations.

[billyam998]

either the site has crashed or, they have closed registrations.

I got a very nice note telling me the site was open again, entry no 304  - gulps.

[Jack_P]

On the list 327.
Initial plan (not really planned at all) is to incorporate as part of a few weeks riding in Europe.
Just need to investigate a fun route down there now.

[Von Broad]

You wait till I see that Manotea bloke! I got sucked into this project while riding the Nyctophobic yesterday.
[And that was bad enough] This caused a short circuit and I got ideas about building a dual 20" folding/suitcase recumbent to do the ride. I am so not suited to this kind of event it's absurd.

It sounds like a really terrific grand tour though - and getting a bit bored with riding over here, it's time to travel outside the box and liven things up a bit!

Still, at 351....didn't quite make it
[wipes brow]

[Pete Mas]

Still, at 351....didn't quite make it
[wipes brow]

On the website it says entries limited to 450, not 350!

[Manotea]

My impression was the initial entrty was limited to 350 at net 200EUR with the residual being offered down the line at a 300Eur (but i could be wrong...)

Here s hoping I make it pass the first control next year. No more heatwaves please!

[Zed43]

There are currently 374 riders pre-accredited. Relatively speaking many from the Russian Federation, Thailand and Japan.

[whosatthewheel]

My impression was the initial entrty was limited to 350 at net 200EUR with the residual being offered down the line at a 300Eur (but i could be wrong...)

Here s hoping I make it pass the first control next year. No more heatwaves please!

It's not even a case of heatwaves anymore. Any day from late june to late August in Italy goes above 30 degrees, with very few exceptions. During heatwaves it gets to 38-40. It has changed from 20 years ago, when the norm was 28 and the exceptional was 33

[Pete Mas]

Presumably the main heat may be on the Padana Plain. One to ride at night? Last time I was at the Passo delle Stelvio, it was sunny, but at 2757m, apparently that doesn't happen very often. Likewise on the Col d'Iseran at 2770m. I'm sure it will be a both challenging and very beautiful route, given reasonable weather. Of course the latter is always unpredictable in the mountains. Nice also to visit Italy, France and Switzerland on the same ride.

[whosatthewheel]

Presumably the main heat may be on the Padana Plain. One to ride at night? Last time I was at the Passo delle Stelvio, it was sunny, but at 2757m, apparently that doesn't happen very often. Likewise on the Col d'Iseran at 2770m. I'm sure it will be a both challenging and very beautiful route, given reasonable weather. Of course the latter is always unpredictable in the mountains. Nice also to visit Italy, France and Switzerland on the same ride.

The heat is everywhere... of course above 2000 metres is fresh. The Aosta valley is a furnace in July and you'll have a stiff headwind in the afternoon going east... that is a good one to do at night, when the wind switches direction.

The padana plain is hot and humid... night is better, but I'd avoid riding at night over the weekends in the densely populated areas... lots of drunk and high teenagers driving around going from club to club

[Pete Mas]

Thanks for the information.

Will be interesting to see how much climbing there will be when the route is finalised. Currently it says 20,000m+. Last year, for the 999 Miles Ride, the final amount of climb was quite a lot more than the initial estimate, as I recall.

[whosatthewheel]

Thanks for the information.

Will be interesting to see how much climbing there will be when the route is finalised. Currently it says 20,000m+. Last year, for the 999 Miles Ride, the final amount of climb was quite a lot more than the initial estimate, as I recall.

Don't think it will be over 20K... the Padana plain is seriously flat

[postie]

I am in , number 385.  Veloboy has a lot to answer for!!!

[Angstbremser]

I am in , number 385.  Veloboy has a lot to answer for!!!

So it will be you as well. Looking at the preregistered list, this will be one fun reunion.

Astonishing how quickly it filled up. I wonder if everybody knew what exactly thex were signing up for.

[whosatthewheel]

I am in , number 385.  Veloboy has a lot to answer for!!!

So it will be you as well. Looking at the preregistered list, this will be one fun reunion.

Astonishing how quickly it filled up. I wonder if everybody knew what exactly thex were signing up for.

I supposed some will be disappointed it's not 4000 Km... 

[postrestant]

There are currently 374 riders pre-accredited. Relatively speaking many from the Russian Federation, Thailand and Japan.

The registration page today gives (roughly):

Italy      98      
Germany      24
Thailand   18
France      15
UK      14
Belgium      11
Russia      9
Spain      9   
USA      8      
Netherlands   6
Taiwan      5
Austria      2
Greece      2
Japan      2
Philippines   2
Bosnia      1
Canada      1
Croatia      1
India      1      
Ireland      1      
Romania      1
South Africa   1
Sweden      1

Who's maddest for Audax by population?  Belgium 1 / 1 million population, Netherlands 2.8, Germany 3.4, Thailand 3.8.  Italy, at 0.6, would win, but are excluded owing to home advantage.

But perhaps we should control for distance?  Thailand must have a pretty good claim in that case.  I'll leave the maths to someone else.

(The 999 Miglia was more diverse, I think; but maybe the registration proper will see more of a mix.)

[Pete Mas]

You missed Jamaica (although the name sounds Italian...Enrico Monti). Also I saw at least  13 listed  from Japan, not 2?

[postrestant]

Ah.  The page I used gave a single list, but was from (I now notice) 11/10/17.  The more up to date page is broken up into 'sheets' of 50 or so riders.  So, counting up my list, there's almost another 200 riders to add.  So the list above is early birds / the organized / the networked.

[postrestant]

More up to date, but the lists still have gaps (total in this count 351):

Italy      161
Germany      33
UK      22
Thailand   19
France      16
Japan      16
Russian Federation   16
Belgium      11
USA      11
Spain      10
Netherlands   6
Austria      5
Taiwan      5
Greece      3
Sweden      3
Denmark      2
Australia   1
Bosnia & Herzegovina   1
Canada      1
Colombia   1
Croatia      1
India      1
Ireland      1
Jamaica      1
Lithuania   1
Philippines   1
Romania      1
South Africa   1

By population: Italy 1 per .3 million, Belgium 1 per million, Austria 1.7, Germany 2.4, Netherlands 2.8, Denmark 2.8, Jamaica 2.8, UK, Sweden, Bosnia &H, Thailand, Greece in the 3s, France, Croatia, Spain, Taiwan, Ireland in the 4s, Japan 7, Russia 8, Romania 19, Australia 24, USA 29, Canada 36 ...  Thailand very well represented ...

[javier]

Low numbers for Spain I'd say, but I think that can be attributed to MGM expected in August 2018

[αdαmsκι]

Low numbers for Spain I'd say, but I think that can be attributed to MGM expected in August 2018

Simple - ride both .

[javier]

That's exactly what I think. Alpi 4000 is set in my calendar but when more details about MGM are announced I'll give the idea of riding both serious consideration.