Kim, Where in my post did I say that a paper route sheet is better than GPX, where did I say I was against advancement in cycling technology, where? all I was saying was that I prefer using a route sheet & a steel framed bike, I have witnessed & enjoyed advancement in cycling technology over many years, my 1st bike in 1963 was a single speed, my 1st club ride in 1968 was on a 3 speed hub, I rode my 1st race in 1971 on an 8 speed bike & my last race in 2013 on an Argon 18 carbon fibre with 20 gears. I have completed 11 SR's a Brevet 25000 & 56,000 kms on a mixture of steel, alloy & carbon bikes, I ride randonees with clubmates who use GPS & they often steer me away from getting lost, Sat Nav is great but like I said I like nostalgia, If I want any cycling advice from you I will ask for it.