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General Category => The Knowledge => Topic started by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 July, 2018, 05:01:10 pm

Title: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 July, 2018, 05:01:10 pm
One return spring has broken on the front brake on my clunker/town bike.

Said brake is a BMX/U-brake type.

I'd just replace it with a V brake, except that the posts don't have any bits to take the return spring (no plate with holes in it). Instead, there is a removable plate with a grooved flange *above* the post. This looks to be specific to the U-brake. Two bike shop mechanics sucked teeth at it and said I'd have to find a like-for-like replacement.

Best option I can think of is to find an old BMX with similar U-brake. Anyone have other ideas?
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Torslanda on 16 July, 2018, 05:07:31 pm
A U-brake isn't a difficult thing to find, my wholesalers keep them on the shelf. Not expensive either.

A picture is worth a thousand words - Well, at least it would help to visualise the current fitting.
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 16 July, 2018, 05:17:41 pm
That bike's U-brake posts allows you to fit a U-brake (or old roller cam) brake. Many (all?) of them had adjustable spring tension without the end of a spring sticking into a hole. The springs were tightened with a spanner and locked in position when the central bolt was tightened. See the pictures at the top of https://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-u.html
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Torslanda on 16 July, 2018, 05:22:27 pm
If the 'adapter' is bolted thru the fork crown then we just need to know the vertical distance between the hole in the fork crown and the rim. Then it's a cinch to find the correct drop side pull.

Or have I read it wrong...?
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Torslanda on 16 July, 2018, 05:31:27 pm
*Lightbulb moment*

This isn't a 'pit bull' type brake is it? The cable pulls a wedge between two rollers?

If it is, I've got one...
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 16 July, 2018, 05:33:09 pm
A Pitbull would be a drop in replacement for a U-brake on an adaptor plate.

I've never tried but the Pitbull arms might fit onto U-brake posts. You'd still need the cable stop mounted somewhere.
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Brucey on 16 July, 2018, 05:36:25 pm
it might well be the case that a pair of springs from a cheap V brake could be made to work with the U brake.

cheers
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Torslanda on 16 July, 2018, 05:37:54 pm
Please put me out of my misery, I can't picture it.
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Brucey on 16 July, 2018, 05:44:55 pm
U brake adaptor

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/321895520435-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)

they often have slots/holes in for return springs, but I think the one above doesn't have that.

The net result of using one of these things is that you have created an oversized centre-pull brake.... ::-)

cheers
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Torslanda on 16 July, 2018, 05:51:46 pm
OK, got it.

So we go back to the suggestion of measuring the drop and fitting an appropriate sidepull instead.
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 July, 2018, 08:26:44 pm
It is on posts - no adapter

I doubt a sidepull would fit (apart from some of the really odd cheap BMX ones. I have 1.75" tyres.

Will try to get a photo posted up.
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 16 July, 2018, 08:33:36 pm
Just buy another U-brake (they aren't too expensive) and fit it. http://cycle-systems.co.uk/tutorial123/brakes-set-bmx-u-brakes-front shows how to adjust brake spring tension.
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: TheShipwright on 16 July, 2018, 09:35:48 pm
replacement springs?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dia-Compe-Hombre-U-Brake-Springs-Left-and-Right-Pair-no16/123243973368?hash=item1cb1e9caf8%3Ag%3AeaEAAOSw6fVaizMt&_sacat=0&_nkw=u+brake&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313
or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dia-Compe-AD990-FS990-U-Brake-Springs-Left-and-Right-Pair-no15/112825131316?hash=item1a44e6e134:g:~T0AAOSw8i9aizPQ
Title: Re: BMX-type U-brake on the front - broken return spring
Post by: Brucey on 16 July, 2018, 09:50:34 pm
It is on posts - no adapter

ah... I assumed it must be adjustable in some way if you were considering a V brake.  V-brakes and U brakes require the posts in completely different positions; the only brake that will fit on fixed U brake posts is another U brake.

As I mentioned earlier springs from a cheap V brake might work though.

cheers