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Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« on: 23 February, 2017, 12:48:33 pm »
I have sort of stuck with semi-skilled on the misguided notion that semi, has the benefits of full, but a better relative taste than skimmed. As a side note I used to love sterilised milk (glass bottle in the old days) and regularly finish off the whole bottle my grandfather used to get me (better times as well, sigh).

What is the prevailing wisdom on milk - full, semi or s/s?

I tend to have a glass before trying to cycle home, otherwise I get home starving!

hellymedic

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #1 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:10:10 pm »
What you like IMO.

Some find full-fat too rich, others don't.

Milk is a good way of getting Calories in.
400/pint FULL CREAM
300/pint SEMI-SKIMMED
200/pint SKIMMED

They all have the same amount of protein and sugar.

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #2 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:19:37 pm »
I avoid full cream not because the cardiac wallahs say to but because it's so delicious that I drink it by the glassful. The semi-skimmed isn't so I only have it in tea.
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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #3 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:21:01 pm »
They all have the same amount of protein and sugar.

Isn't quite true...

If you take out the 4% fat, then the liquid that's left has more sugar than the full fat version.

We buy the full fat because it has the lowest % sugar.

I'd get gold top if I could. Even fewer cabohydrates.

All supermarket milk is skimmed, it then has cream added and is homogenised. They're all good- if you're a baby cow.
For the rest of us, it depends what your morals are, and what your goals.

If you want 'all the health benefits' you need unpasteurised (pasteurisation degrades the vitamins) unprocessed (vit A & D are lost in the fat skimming), and I'm not sure you can get that in That London.

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #4 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:24:21 pm »
What you like IMO.

Skimmed tastes like gone-off water, and full fat makes you boak, so semi-skilled it is.

Not that I'm a big drinker of milk, but occasionally a pint can bootstrap the digestive system when cycling has suppressed it.

I'm a weirdo who thinks UHT tastes nice.

hellymedic

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #5 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:27:52 pm »
There are health risks as well as benefits, with unpasteurised milk.
Pasteurised milk also has a longer shelf life.

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #6 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:30:40 pm »
Unpasteurised milk is best left for people who own a cow, IMHO.

Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #7 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:33:53 pm »
There are health risks as well as benefits, with unpasteurised milk.
In theory, but probably not. Herds are tested for TB and you don't get a license to sell if your cows aren't clean. You can't sell it for human consumption, pasteurised or not, if there are any positives in your herd.

Unpasteurised milk is best left for people who own a cow, IMHO.
Ahh, you can't beat it, fresh out of the udder into your coffee, cappucino style. Yum.

It tastes nicer than pasteurised. But then you like UHT...

hellymedic

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #8 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:36:34 pm »
They all have the same amount of protein and sugar.

Isn't quite true...

If you take out the 4% fat, then the liquid that's left has more sugar than the full fat version.

We buy the full fat because it has the lowest % sugar.

I'd get gold top if I could. Even fewer cabohydrates.

All supermarket milk is skimmed, it then has cream added and is homogenised. They're all good- if you're a baby cow.
For the rest of us, it depends what your morals are, and what your goals.

If you want 'all the health benefits' you need unpasteurised (pasteurisation degrades the vitamins) unprocessed (vit A & D are lost in the fat skimming), and I'm not sure you can get that in That London.

Full cream milk 4.5g sugar/100ml
Semi-skimmed 4.6g sugar/100ml
Skimmed 4.7g sugar/100ml

Not quite the same amounts but I should say the differences are trivial.

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #9 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:42:07 pm »
I don't think anyone in our household actually drinks milk as milk. It goes on the boy's cereal and gets used in coffee and for the occasional mug of – yes, you guessed it – hot chocolate or cocoa. We normally get the non-homogenised stuff cos it has cream on top, from the corner shop cos they're both handy and somehow cheaper. It comes from Bruton usually. It's often organic cos we (Mrs Cudzo at least – she grew up drinking milk warm from the family cow) reckon that's healthier (more vits, fewer added hormones[?]) and the price differential is surprisingly little. Fully unskilled (well obvs if it's non-homogenised).

Apparently buffaloes are immune to TB and are popular in Afghanistan and Pakistan for this reason. At least, according to Dervla Murphy.
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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #10 on: 23 February, 2017, 01:42:35 pm »
Unpasteurised milk is best left for people who own a cow, IMHO.
See above! They made their own butter too – but not cheese.
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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #11 on: 23 February, 2017, 02:22:13 pm »
What is the prevailing wisdom on milk - full, semi or s/s?

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #12 on: 23 February, 2017, 02:56:49 pm »
My preference is semi > full > skimmed, based on taste (i.e. what I'm used to), with a small amount of calorie control.
 
These days it's mostly a pint for lunch plus tea and the occasional glug.
When I was young, it was a half pint on the cornflakes, a half pint of hot with instant coffee in (or cocoa) at 11's and bed time, plus a pint or two straight down the neck when I got home from school. IIRC, the milkman used to leave about 10 pints a day.

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #13 on: 23 February, 2017, 03:02:07 pm »
Can't stand milk. Yuk!

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #14 on: 23 February, 2017, 03:23:42 pm »
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #15 on: 23 February, 2017, 04:01:46 pm »
Funny, someone else mentioned the same subject to me just this morning.   Is there any new news?  I can only find old news:

"Regular consumption of full-fat dairy products can reduce the risk of developing type 2 diabetes compared to eating low-fat dairy products, new research finds."

- www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2016/apr/full-fat-dairy-consumption-could-reduce-risk-of-type-2-diabetes-95576109.html

Full-fat milk tastes smells too much like a dirty old cow's tit to me, though.
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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #16 on: 23 February, 2017, 04:05:02 pm »
What is the prevailing wisdom on milk - full, semi or s/s?

Goat

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #17 on: 23 February, 2017, 04:08:52 pm »
Milk is a way of moistening cereal.  It's of no other use till you do something with it - Viz, yoghurt or cheese.
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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #18 on: 23 February, 2017, 04:14:43 pm »
Milk is a way of moistening cereal.  It's of no other use till you do something with it - Viz, yoghurt or cheese.
Yeah, my favourite Viz character was Lactating Larry and his Milky Moobs.





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hellymedic

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Re: Biggsy
« Reply #19 on: 23 February, 2017, 04:23:28 pm »
Funny, someone else mentioned the same subject to me just this morning.   Is there any new news?  I can only find old news:

"Regular consumption of full-fat dairy products can reduce the risk of developing type 2 diabetes compared to eating low-fat dairy products, new research finds."

- www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2016/apr/full-fat-dairy-consumption-could-reduce-risk-of-type-2-diabetes-95576109.html

Full-fat milk tastes smells too much like a dirty old cow's tit to me, though.

Someone linked to this in the keto thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e09wQl1kkCE&feature=youtu.be

Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #20 on: 23 February, 2017, 09:18:10 pm »
Im not prepared to compromise on the milk i use in my flat whites. It has to be full fat. So, thats all we buy now. Other than my coffees it only gets used in porridge, on cereals, and for hot choccies for my bimbles.

On the rare occasion I get acid heartburn, a big glass of full fat milk stops it straight away.

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #21 on: 23 February, 2017, 09:24:32 pm »
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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #22 on: 23 February, 2017, 09:34:06 pm »
Full fat, in English Breakfast tea, on cereal & by the glass.   When I've been walking or riding hard a pint of the stuff does not touch the sides.      I remember getting into a supermarket outside Kayenta, Arizona and necking what must have been 2-3 pints.   After a day in the sun it was just what I needed, but the after effects were explosive  :hand:
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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #23 on: 23 February, 2017, 09:43:46 pm »
Isn't unpasteurized, unprocessed milk called raw milk? Farms that sell it need extra checks on it an can only sell to local customers within a certain distance.

I've never tried it in the UK but as a kid in France i did. We rented a cottage and the owner lived next door. No village shop and supermarket some distance away. We needed milk so the owner told us to take the milk churns under the sink down the road and knock on the first door at about 4pm. A guy would come out and return with your churn full for very little money. The churns went from a single 500ml up to many litres. That milk was very rich indeed. It was also not white more a kind of yellow. It tasted nice though.

One more thing. Real or raw milk tasted great from what i remember.

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Re: Milk which type - full, skimmed or semi
« Reply #24 on: 26 February, 2017, 07:13:38 pm »
We got raw milk from the milkman when I was a kid. It's much nicer than pasteurised milk, in the same way that free range eggs are nicer than battery eggs.
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